@@FormulaDynastyhe turns early, and so he is on full throttle very early to… thats why he is so fast but his main priority is to extend his the coming straight
@@Acque__Minerali He creates a angle wit his short cornering driving style to rotate the car earlier than other drivers, it also allows him to get on the throttle earlier yes. Max is all about carrying more corner entry speed and taking a shorter line (short cornering). Longer cornering is much slower (doesn't have a higher potential ceiling in terms of performance). Max, Oscar, Lance use short cornering but its the combination with creating an angle with the car with, trail braking and braking at the exact perfect spot that allows max to create these times; comparing to stroll he can't do that but he drives a shorter corner. Take Alonso for example, probably drives the longest corner out of anyone but he has mastered his driving style but it's not as fast as someone who has mastered short corners (max)
Not really. You could look at any 2 laps like this (even in sim racing) and say the same thing. If they are at least a few meters apart, it will always look like the gap shortened under braking and extended at the exit. Even if they went through that corner identically. Same thing as the pit lane. Before the pit lane they can look far apart while in the pit lane they are much closer because of the reduced speed (same as in the middle of the corner)
I think he could make p2/p3 if he didn't had that drift/slide. Allot of the drivers where fast in the first two sectors but the red bull made it up in the last sector.
If a picture speaks a thousand words, that clip spoke a million. A huge amount of info, clear to see without punditry! Mc are nearly on the pace with RB, the front end looks good under braking, but the RB looks better getting on the power, whilst the Mc a little skittish.
You can see that Max vees off some of the corners more than Lando, which is why Lando gets ahead in the mid corner due to having a higher minimum speed, but drops back under acceleration because Max has a straighter run out of the corner.
The McLaren is faster on this track. At least in a single lap. Max just slightly lowers the speed into the corners, so he can get on the throttle sooner. This gives him more control and less chance of losing the rear. Lando would have taken pole without his mistake.
@@davidc.w.2908good point, and I think Max drivestyle also helps to wear tyres a bit less, lower speed in search for a bigger angle sooner (V corners instead of U corners). His cars are designed to be massive oversteered (which Checo struggles), to turn-in fast to do the V corners, exactly the way he is driving in this video.
As a Ferrari fan I appreciate Max Verstappen, If you see how Consistent the max is. He approached that corner very differently and was not prone to make any mistakes Also People should realise that pace difference between RB, McLaren, Merc and Ferrari is not that huge in quali (Even tho RB has edge in race bcoz of Better Tyre Degradation)
I do feel it's an underdiscussed part of why Verstappen is doing so unbelievably well this season: he almost never makes mistakes. And on the rare occasion he does, he can make up for it, like sitting out the penalty in Las Vegas.
Not taking all credit away from him, but when you are in the fastest car, you dont really need to push as hard as others. Lewis made less mistakes from 2014-2020 then he did in the last 2 seasons alone. Max was also making a lot of mistakes before he had the fastest car.
@@askeladden450 ''the fastest car'' where is perez. if it was the fastest car by far (as many would love to claim: teamLH), the 2nd driver would always qualy in P2, and would finish in P2. just like we saw from 7 years Mercedes dominance. it was always a definitive p1-2 in qualy and race, the question was by how much. right now, its the DRIVER making the difference. all the cars are so incredibly close together, never ever in formula 1 history has the ENTIRE grid been this close together in qualy and race. and its the drivers making the difference. and as Dennis said after driving verstappens car, there is nothing special about the car. it drives like a normal racecar. both redbull rookies in both cars where really close together in FP1. to counter your 2014-2020 argument, lewis car was SO FAST, he could make a free pitstop after only 10 racing laps in every single track. together with his teammate. he was literally doing time trial with 100HP more than the rest of the field. but what a very clear example is, that now that hes actually having to race other drivers, he makes mistake after mistake. hes really terrible at wheel to wheel racing, and is only able to overtake with DRS. whenever he goes side by side into ANY corner, one of the drivers will end up in the gravel. the redbull cant make a free pitstop in any race so far. and it takes about an entire race distance for him to be 5-10 seconds in front of P2. he is sstill having to fight other drivers, unlike the mercedes drivers from 2014-2020
While not having a big chance at pole, it was still an outstanding performance until the mistake considering he was against Max in a red bull while driving the McLaren.
The McLaren isn’t much slower in the QF setting. The rb 19 strength is the race trim, I.e. taking care of the tires while being fast on the straights without as much downforce as others. They are difficult to overtake and extremely strong in clean air. In the QF Ferrari and McLaren aren’t much slower if at all when we look at checo. You can’t tell me that max isn’t getting that extra tenth by himself.
@@Keagan1007 the development you are talking about is literally making a RB19 knockoff. I love mclaren but I hoped they would resort to a original solution instead of making a orange bull. If not they will never beat reb bull for the 1st place
I think "dominance" is a great exaggeration for a few thousands. Quicker, yes. Dominant? If we slap together all the long runs and there is a definitive difference, then perhaps, maybe yes.
@@FrancisFjordCupola I think you didn't understand. What I mean is that, when the dots move through the track map, leaving a coloured trace behind them with the color of the car that is going faster at any given point gives us a good idea of each driver/car combo strengths and weaknesses. It's a graph commonly shown by AWS on the F1 broadcast
Max just always performs, that's just something many other drivers lack, they might have a great weekend but often they also have many bad ones and average ones.. for Max they're all great weekends and even in difficult ones like Singapore he maximizes them.
The most I get from this is to see how different their cornering technique is. I would not be surprised if the McLaren would be the faster car, but that the difference in technique made Max actually get more from the RedBull.
@@zenthous9568 He already went wide at turn 12, zero chance he would have a better turn 13 than Verstappen. So he would not have had pole even without that moment.
@@zenthous9568 Possible that the compromised entry would have lost him quite some time still since his exit would have been quite bad, so can't be too sure either honestly.
Thing is, would he have been as fast if he hadn't made the mistake. Because the mistake comes from living on the edge, but that also delivered the speed to keep up/close. Nice images though, fun to watch Max slow down earlier, but then shooting out of the corner getting ahead again.
Max always gives us entry speed for exit speed. It is a bit counterintuitive, but that is why he is better. Also, he needs a lot less corrections than the others. Not really obvious in this lap, but if you compare him to LeClerc this weekend it is obvious.
Why is it counterintuitive? It has always been "slow in, fast out" for faster lap times. Also I completely agree with your second point, he is a smooth mf
@@crabnix well, let me rephrase, it feels good to enter the corner with speed. In that way I meant intuitive. You have to go against your own urges to keep it going till the last moment.
@@twigsagan3857 oh okay makes sense. Yes it's a bit counterintuitive if you think of it from a "non-racing" point of view. But that is one of the reasons we enjoy this sport :)
@@boostav Eh, corrections should never be needed, you need to stay within the limits of your car as that is the fastest. A correction is ALWAYS slower. Max is staying within the limits of his car. LeClerc would be wise to do so too.
Max is so much smoother on corners thats why his tires last the full lap. Watch how noris and Leclerc are faster going into corners hence forcing the tires more. That's pure genious
He had asked TOO MUCH of his tyres and THAT made the mistake happen. It was inevitable. There is NO IF. Had he asked less of his tyres in the first 2 sectors, he wouldn’t have been that fast after 2 sectors. So it would never have been pole
This is like the 3rd time that McLaren bottled possible wins due to Lando's own errors in qualifying in my opinion.This(maybe),Mexico and the biggest one Qatar in which he was clearly the fastest car in the grid but started 10th, in the end he was just 6 sec away from P1.
@@darkraig7378 in Qatar 100%, he had the possibility to win starting in front position, remember that he fought his way till he was behind piastri(and he was faster), in Qatar Max was very vulnerable from McLaren (just remember the sprint)
@@wreagfe he was side by side in a sector in which McLaren was on par(or even slightly faster) with the RB, and even if he was P2, that's still a chance for the GP.
Tbh with that mistake he was still pretty close. Imagine if he nailed that corner. If not pole then he would be insanely close to max. That too in a mclaren.
The Red Bull makes up its time on the straights. Funny how Horner use to criticise Mercedes saying Lewis only had to put his foot down on the straights while Max had to go fast through the corners
It only makes time up on the straights because Max prioritzes corner exit speed over corner entry speed. Just think about it for 5 seconds before you post stuff
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Amazing to see how Max is prioritizing exit speed of entry speed
slow in fast out
He does the opposite. He drives shorter corners.
@@FormulaDynastyhe turns early, and so he is on full throttle very early to… thats why he is so fast but his main priority is to extend his the coming straight
@@Acque__Minerali He creates a angle wit his short cornering driving style to rotate the car earlier than other drivers, it also allows him to get on the throttle earlier yes. Max is all about carrying more corner entry speed and taking a shorter line (short cornering). Longer cornering is much slower (doesn't have a higher potential ceiling in terms of performance). Max, Oscar, Lance use short cornering but its the combination with creating an angle with the car with, trail braking and braking at the exact perfect spot that allows max to create these times; comparing to stroll he can't do that but he drives a shorter corner. Take Alonso for example, probably drives the longest corner out of anyone but he has mastered his driving style but it's not as fast as someone who has mastered short corners (max)
Not really. You could look at any 2 laps like this (even in sim racing) and say the same thing. If they are at least a few meters apart, it will always look like the gap shortened under braking and extended at the exit. Even if they went through that corner identically. Same thing as the pit lane. Before the pit lane they can look far apart while in the pit lane they are much closer because of the reduced speed (same as in the middle of the corner)
I think he could make p2/p3 if he didn't had that drift/slide. Allot of the drivers where fast in the first two sectors but the red bull made it up in the last sector.
He would be def p2 the mclaren is also very good in last sector
Actually the Mercedes of George Russell had the fastest final sector of Q3
@@user-fp6iw2ex1x was he forecasting a podium?
If a picture speaks a thousand words, that clip spoke a million. A huge amount of info, clear to see without punditry!
Mc are nearly on the pace with RB, the front end looks good under braking, but the RB looks better getting on the power, whilst the Mc a little skittish.
I think it has to be said that it’s the RB driven by Max. His style is so smooth and precise.
You can see that Max vees off some of the corners more than Lando, which is why Lando gets ahead in the mid corner due to having a higher minimum speed, but drops back under acceleration because Max has a straighter run out of the corner.
@@slartibartfast2649 True, much shorter corners, but the Mc isn't as good at getting on the power generally, whereas braking it looks rock solid.
The McLaren is faster on this track. At least in a single lap. Max just slightly lowers the speed into the corners, so he can get on the throttle sooner. This gives him more control and less chance of losing the rear. Lando would have taken pole without his mistake.
@@davidc.w.2908good point, and I think Max drivestyle also helps to wear tyres a bit less, lower speed in search for a bigger angle sooner (V corners instead of U corners). His cars are designed to be massive oversteered (which Checo struggles), to turn-in fast to do the V corners, exactly the way he is driving in this video.
As a Ferrari fan I appreciate Max Verstappen, If you see how Consistent the max is. He approached that corner very differently and was not prone to make any mistakes
Also People should realise that pace difference between RB, McLaren, Merc and Ferrari is not that huge in quali (Even tho RB has edge in race bcoz of Better Tyre Degradation)
I do feel it's an underdiscussed part of why Verstappen is doing so unbelievably well this season: he almost never makes mistakes. And on the rare occasion he does, he can make up for it, like sitting out the penalty in Las Vegas.
Not taking all credit away from him, but when you are in the fastest car, you dont really need to push as hard as others. Lewis made less mistakes from 2014-2020 then he did in the last 2 seasons alone. Max was also making a lot of mistakes before he had the fastest car.
Verstappen overshoot at the hairpin after S1 but still end up launching.
Hard to make mistakes when u have a car that planted to the ground and u don’t need to push it to the complete limit
@@askeladden450 ''the fastest car'' where is perez.
if it was the fastest car by far (as many would love to claim: teamLH), the 2nd driver would always qualy in P2, and would finish in P2. just like we saw from 7 years Mercedes dominance. it was always a definitive p1-2 in qualy and race, the question was by how much.
right now, its the DRIVER making the difference. all the cars are so incredibly close together, never ever in formula 1 history has the ENTIRE grid been this close together in qualy and race. and its the drivers making the difference. and as Dennis said after driving verstappens car, there is nothing special about the car. it drives like a normal racecar. both redbull rookies in both cars where really close together in FP1.
to counter your 2014-2020 argument, lewis car was SO FAST, he could make a free pitstop after only 10 racing laps in every single track. together with his teammate. he was literally doing time trial with 100HP more than the rest of the field.
but what a very clear example is, that now that hes actually having to race other drivers, he makes mistake after mistake. hes really terrible at wheel to wheel racing, and is only able to overtake with DRS. whenever he goes side by side into ANY corner, one of the drivers will end up in the gravel.
the redbull cant make a free pitstop in any race so far. and it takes about an entire race distance for him to be 5-10 seconds in front of P2. he is sstill having to fight other drivers, unlike the mercedes drivers from 2014-2020
@@wildwilco my comment went straight over your head didnt it? Missed my point by about 5 nautical miles.
While not having a big chance at pole, it was still an outstanding performance until the mistake considering he was against Max in a red bull while driving the McLaren.
Bruh.... keep crying
McLaren has come a long ways in two years. Development in the second half of this season has really improved the pace on some tracks.
you're sounding as if Norris was in Bahrain McLaren spec.
The McLaren isn’t much slower in the QF setting. The rb 19 strength is the race trim, I.e. taking care of the tires while being fast on the straights without as much downforce as others. They are difficult to overtake and extremely strong in clean air. In the QF Ferrari and McLaren aren’t much slower if at all when we look at checo. You can’t tell me that max isn’t getting that extra tenth by himself.
@@Keagan1007 the development you are talking about is literally making a RB19 knockoff. I love mclaren but I hoped they would resort to a original solution instead of making a orange bull. If not they will never beat reb bull for the 1st place
Incredible analysis of these two drivers. Thank you for your time and effort to share this with us all. Much appreciated.
thx to show us this
So, he realistically had no shot at pole, but British media gonna' be British media.
Awesome content thank you
Amazing job as always. As a suggestion, you could colour the track map with each car's color to show track dominance
I think "dominance" is a great exaggeration for a few thousands. Quicker, yes. Dominant? If we slap together all the long runs and there is a definitive difference, then perhaps, maybe yes.
@@FrancisFjordCupola I think you didn't understand. What I mean is that, when the dots move through the track map, leaving a coloured trace behind them with the color of the car that is going faster at any given point gives us a good idea of each driver/car combo strengths and weaknesses. It's a graph commonly shown by AWS on the F1 broadcast
@@FrancisFjordCupola "track dominance" is just a term for which parts of the track a certain car is ahead of the other.
Max just always performs, that's just something many other drivers lack, they might have a great weekend but often they also have many bad ones and average ones.. for Max they're all great weekends and even in difficult ones like Singapore he maximizes them.
How have I missed this channel completely until now?
Where do you take your music from ?
Underrated
is there any way you could add car telemetry to the videos? showing the throttle and brake traces
Wow, this analysis is so much better than the Sky pad !!!
The most I get from this is to see how different their cornering technique is. I would not be surprised if the McLaren would be the faster car, but that the difference in technique made Max actually get more from the RedBull.
I was waited more this video than the race.
The difficulty is the same for everyone, the RB actually is harder to drive in low speed corners making the Verstappen’s performance incredible.
So he wasnt really ahead by much at all until that mistake
He still might have made pole or 2nd
@@zenthous9568 He already went wide at turn 12, zero chance he would have a better turn 13 than Verstappen. So he would not have had pole even without that moment.
@@razinroslan1473 still 2nd then
@@zenthous9568 Possible that the compromised entry would have lost him quite some time still since his exit would have been quite bad, so can't be too sure either honestly.
@@razinroslan1473 yeah, I think he would’ve made either p2 or p3
you rule for making this kinda stuff, where do you get the data from?
the fact he kept up in a slower car is insane, future champion i swear
Very close second if he hadn’t made that mistake
how do these guys get this data, like how are they able to simulate it so accurately
or is all time based simulation ??
Thing is, would he have been as fast if he hadn't made the mistake. Because the mistake comes from living on the edge, but that also delivered the speed to keep up/close.
Nice images though, fun to watch Max slow down earlier, but then shooting out of the corner getting ahead again.
Besides, in the previous corner, max had a better exit to prepare for the corner in which Lando slipped.
Max always gives us entry speed for exit speed. It is a bit counterintuitive, but that is why he is better. Also, he needs a lot less corrections than the others. Not really obvious in this lap, but if you compare him to LeClerc this weekend it is obvious.
Why is it counterintuitive? It has always been "slow in, fast out" for faster lap times. Also I completely agree with your second point, he is a smooth mf
@@crabnix well, let me rephrase, it feels good to enter the corner with speed. In that way I meant intuitive. You have to go against your own urges to keep it going till the last moment.
@@twigsagan3857 oh okay makes sense. Yes it's a bit counterintuitive if you think of it from a "non-racing" point of view. But that is one of the reasons we enjoy this sport :)
LOL, he needs a lot less corrections because of the car he's driving. The Ferrari is nowhere near as stable.
@@boostav Eh, corrections should never be needed, you need to stay within the limits of your car as that is the fastest. A correction is ALWAYS slower. Max is staying within the limits of his car. LeClerc would be wise to do so too.
Max is so much smoother on corners thats why his tires last the full lap. Watch how noris and Leclerc are faster going into corners hence forcing the tires more. That's pure genious
That are different driving styles. Max is pushing more at the exit, Norris more on the entry. Both hurts the tires.
The master of exit strikes again.
Looking forward to a more closer fight in 2024 between Max and Lando.
Max preserved his tires.
Didn't really matter, he wouldn't have gotten pole either way.
even if we all know who will win the race
The slow section he made the mistake was where the Red Bull(Max) was gaining most their time, nobody could match him through there
Leclerc had purple minisectors there and the fastest S3 though.
@@barcafan94 that's because he did a better lap
it cost a life
Imagine braking later but still accelerating earlier and faster. That RB 19 is untouchable
I mean Norris makes a LOT of mistakes so this is not surprising
mistakes or excuses who cares.. Max is inevitable..
He had asked TOO MUCH of his tyres and THAT made the mistake happen. It was inevitable. There is NO IF. Had he asked less of his tyres in the first 2 sectors, he wouldn’t have been that fast after 2 sectors. So it would never have been pole
Correct. And this is something Max himself addressed, when talking about making sure he had enough tires for the last sector.
Norris keeps making silly mistakes when he has the car to challenge pole. Very frustrating.
This is like the 3rd time that McLaren bottled possible wins due to Lando's own errors in qualifying in my opinion.This(maybe),Mexico and the biggest one Qatar in which he was clearly the fastest car in the grid but started 10th, in the end he was just 6 sec away from P1.
Watch this video again. There was no pole there.
"possible wins" ☠️
@@darkraig7378 in Qatar 100%, he had the possibility to win starting in front position, remember that he fought his way till he was behind piastri(and he was faster), in Qatar Max was very vulnerable from McLaren (just remember the sprint)
@@user-wy5xe6ht2m in Qatar yes, in the others it's more like a maybe
@@wreagfe he was side by side in a sector in which McLaren was on par(or even slightly faster) with the RB, and even if he was P2, that's still a chance for the GP.
lando was really b rave on the brakes,.... he then lost the rear n created the gap
average McLaren always fast at the end of the season
Tbh with that mistake he was still pretty close. Imagine if he nailed that corner. If not pole then he would be insanely close to max. That too in a mclaren.
S he was never ahead..
The Red Bull makes up its time on the straights. Funny how Horner use to criticise Mercedes saying Lewis only had to put his foot down on the straights while Max had to go fast through the corners
That was in a time where mercedes made up 0,7 seconds on the straights in a single lap compared to redbul, here it is like 0,1 or 0,2 sec max.
Merc was THE DOMINATING ENGINE, with the RB19 is the dominating AERO DESIGN….huge difference!!!
It only makes time up on the straights because Max prioritzes corner exit speed over corner entry speed. Just think about it for 5 seconds before you post stuff
It doesn’t make up time on the straights. All the time is made up on corner exit.
Norris was close but Max just took the turns in a superb manner.🤌