The Submarine with a Laser
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2022
- The Virginia-class nuclear-powered cruise missile fast-attack submarine is the latest vessel in the United States Navy's arsenal. The design incorporates the latest in stealth, intelligence, and weapons systems technology to be applied for special deep ocean anti-submarine warfare and littoral operations.
A formidable weapons platform, the attack submarine can launch up to 16 Tomahawk cruise missiles in a single salvo, but the remarkable feat is not enough for the Navy. The Virginia-class vessels are set to become the first submarines in the world armed with high-energy laser weapons.
However, a big hurdle is standing in the way: lasers don't seem to work underwater.
Still, the Navy continues to work on the model, and most of the system's capabilities are yet to be unveiled, but the expectations are that Virginia's laser weapon could radically change naval warfare forever…
Under budget and ahead of schedule is the most incredible thing about this sub.
I work in DoD acquisition. This is literally a super power.
Not if both are buffered a bit. Consistent costs and timelines are good though.
Well when you've made 22 of them... half of the trouble with modern procurement is that we make the first two or three and then Congress panics. If the Sherman tank were cost analyzed for the first vehicle it would probably be a billion dollars.
Wasn’t the case with block 1 boats. Was super skeptical they’d be able to achieve the necessary cost reductions. Miss those days working back shift non-crit steaming and power range testing as an STE.
Anything can be under budget and ahead of schedule if you overcharge and overestimate
Just imagine how fast it would be if they painted it red!
Are the Orks?
Or sneaky if they painted it purple
I understood that reference. 😆 🤣
Not only that, but think about this, you have a shore target in let's say a harbor. Point that laser at the target while moving it around fast in circles. All of the stray cats in the harbor WILL attack said target. Awesome!
That would be dumb it will be easy to see with a thermal camara red=hot.
I love how every time you mention Special Forces you show guys in OBA’s on a damage control team
So glad they got rid of them.
@@seanrudy80 OBA's or damage control teams?
They were wearing EAB's in the first clip and SCBA'S in the second. We haven't used OBA's on submarines in over a decade
The navy built this sub because Dr Evil's sharks now have laser beams attached to their freaking heads.
The laser is only to make sure the screen door is closed.....😀
That laser Humvee is straight out of Command&Conquer!
They got sharks with freakin lasers
It’s kind of like having sharks with lasers attached to their heads! Cool!
Sharks with frickin lasers...!
The price is....
One MILLION DOLLARS!
Ha ha "LAYzerrs!!".
U.S. Navy Submarine Admiral: "All I ask is Virginia class Submarines with Frickin' Laser beams attached to their hulls, is that too much to ask? Throw me a frickin' bone here!"
gj dr evil xD
I'm a engineer with 43 years in laser/photonic technology. When I stated my career at Hughes Aircraft passing a laser underwater was a huge challenge. It still is, as is incorporating a laser on anything in the air. Not counting launched devices/weapons (missiles, rockets etc) One problem is lasers are incredibly fragile and touchy. You can have hundreds of optics in a laser, one misalignment and the systems is down. They are also energy pigs...roughly 10% efficiency. So if you want 1,000 watts out you have to pump in 10,000 watts of energy. It's not that easy.
Weren't the navy looking into underwater satalite communication with infrared lasers at one point?
@@deth3021 Yes! And there still is interest in doing that. I don't know all the challenges but apparently trying to pass any wavelength in the visible or infrared through ocean water is really difficult because of absorption.
@kendall Evans yes, the nemesis of lasers is absorption. A reason I've always had my reservations about them in defensive roles.
Did you mean to say 10k watts for 100k watts of energy in?
@@ericpatten6204 10% efficiency....I think I corrected it.
We're getting closer to Ace Combat 's level of craziness.
people have there doubts about lasers on a sub but when you consider having it mounted on the tower they could have the laser array sticking out only 1 foot above the ocean and be able to cover vast arears of the surface and keep the remaining bits of the sub below the water line well below surface radar . it's not hard to come up with scenarios where having a laser on the sub would be effective I can see what there hoping for with this
I agree with you demonic477. The sub could come up just enough to peek the periscope/laser weapon out of the water, and then fire the weapon and then dive out of harms way. I would be tough to determine where/how the target was hit in such a short amount of time. Almost like a silent boat/drone assassin.
subs have towed sonar arrays how about a towed defense unit that could raise a mount above the water , giving a false target and keeping the sub fairly deep
That makes the most sense for "laser" based systems. There might be types of directed energy weapons that might work underwater though...COIL type weapons and other ones newer than that.
Are you a submariner or a former submariner ?? can you not smell BS
I like the towed method. we used various towed systems. You can also cut it fast to run deep.
"Alright, submarines. The fuck do we do with them?"
"SLAP A FUCKING LASER ON IT"
"YEAHHH"
That was wonderfully interesting and thankyou for making this video.
Wow! Thank you for posting this. I was just looking into this!
A very decent video, glad to see it and keep up the good work, happy to pass this one on.
Laser weapons powered by electricity produced from nuclear reactors have the potential to take out ballistic missiles during the boost phase after launch. Perhaps a test or two one North Korean missiles after they cross the Sea of Japan?
No better to take them out during launch phase while still over North Korea. That way no radioactive fallout lands on Japan.
What's to say that this isn't being already done? NK would have no way of knowing as the missile would just suddenly fail and thus look like another engineering problem.
Highly doubt power would be there for BMs but conceivably useful to knock down a drone or an ASW helicopter. Even so, a scope just above waterline with spray, fog, other stuff would somewhat quell the laser?
@@markgrove2030 They shot down a north korean ballistic missile with a laser a few years back. I think it was MIRACL or something
@@telesniper2 Yessir I heard abt that but not from a sub or any other sea vessel. I'm sure no expert but still maintain that fog,spray, wave action etc (at this time anyway) would sap much of the power of a laser. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe not. Frankly I hope I AM wrong because we may very well need this capability. Sooner than later most likely.
That laser tech needs to be on surface ships. A highly valuable asset against anti-ship missiles that have become harder to intercept
Dr. Evil : You know, I have one simple request, and that is to have subs with frickin' laser beams attached to their masts!
pretty limited use over all since the Sub has limited ability to see & track airborne targets.
Poop beat me to it.
As a former submariner I’m straining to image how to integrate a high power laser into a submarine
You need to paint with it. I think you understand what I mean. I don't want to give my idea outright if I'm correct.
As far as installation, I thought he mentioned on top, porting out like that photon periscope. I assume water right seal that probably moves upward after they surface
@@nomore-constipation ….. I’m not tracking on a photon periscope. I presume the laser would be mounted on a mast. Used to take down drones. Or to blind someone or something. So the boat would necessarily expose itself to do that. As far as the laser’s range I suspect that’s in an ideal environment. I could go on but you understand where I’m coming from. The nuts and bolts of operating at sea
@@Idahoguy10157 Those lasers would essentially be useless against Chinese railgun ships and hypersonic missiles though... I can see the use of laser submarine against aircraft carriers and classical missiles.
@@Tiberiansam why do you think lasers be useless against hypersonic missiles?
Well it sounds like you don’t have much of an imagination. You’re struggling to find an answer, but clearly there’s a reason for it
Thank you for the very interesting and informative video. When people start talking about how far behind the U.S. is from the rest of the world I'll think of this. We are so far ahead our submarines have lasers. LoL
Idiots don't understand. They're not told what technology we have. Ugh.
As long as you guys believe that your self, its all good.
I used to work for EB, the Virginia and Columbia sections always amazed me
One of your best
Next it'll be "Fricken sharks with lasers on their heads ".
I'm waiting for the flying sub before I buy one!!!
Great presentation!
"Tight Lipped" about the 'Lighted Tip' were they? 😊 Another great video. thanks!
Sounds like a solid weapons against hypersonic weapons.
I’m looking forward to Australia getting her First American submarines. Hopefully with the new laser weapons:)
Australia is Totally Corrupt just like the USA. The CCP owns both countries. ⚡🇨🇳⭐
Our brothers down under, international stewards of the great barrier reef: seems fitting you become masters of the submarine.
As soon as we have nuke capable subs we become a target. We also don’t want our Great Barrier Reef to be wasted by nuclear waste. Chernobyl under water.
@@assertivekarma1909 fabulous the Great Barrier Reef can be killed by a Chernobyl type disaster as our nuke powered sub goes through it.
@@teeanahera8949 yet ur Great Reef is dying off. Any idea why? I’ve also been told of Tons of unexplored WW2 bombs throughout that are Quite corroded now
Good that Australia is getting nuclear powered submarines
Pretty much, Always good informative & thought provoking.
Cda.
I feel that the people who put lasers on the sub had watched Seaquest DSV at some point and thought "Yeah, that's a good idea, we should put lasers on a sub!"
LOL, Some say building the Sea Quest has been the Navy's wet dream (pun intended),
ever since that show first aired.
As a former Submariner, all I can say is yeah, sure.
Saying that a redesign reduces cost is a bit of a misnomer.
The per unit cost generally goes down with each additional ship/ vehicle that is built.
We have a saying in engineering... I can make a prototype. But when we go into production, we still have to learn how to make it.
As we learn our to make something, we find ways to make it better and be more efficient.
Were one step closer to sharks with lazer beams
When you realize that the "Laser Weapons" is just a laser rangefinder mounted in the mast...
This Laser system is a joint development from Raytheon Photonics and SAIC both in San Diego. Testing was initiated at the test facility range at China Lake. This system is mainly a fast response to the emerging Hypersonic Missile threat...
Once a hypersonic missile is in dive, a laser can't do much anymore.
Its more about loitering ammunitions and drones.
wait!!! it's 2 guns at once!!!
Curtis Cains really 🤣 do you believe all this rubbish about laser weapon? 🤣 a laser has been used at sea since the 80s. There will never be able to be used against ships, aircraft, or any such targets because it's a light nothing more.
there is no such thing as a emerging hypersonic missiles threat.
technically any ballistgic missiles could qualify for that ever since there are ballsitic missiles.
nothing else was shows by russia or anyone else. the realy hypersonic missiles would be a ramjet engine and to this day no joy for anyone.
not even close. so the running joke is hypersonic missiles are the tech of the future.... always have been always will be lol
@@woswasdenni1914 sadly the soviets and then Russia have been using Ramjet missiles at sea for years. Sadly I have to tell you they have been testing hypersonic weapons and the ability to use them long-range and update info mid and at the start of the final phase of its flight. I am sorry to tell you that MBDA also has a Hypersonic version of their missile in development. It's about what's been monitored not what you read.
In My 24 years of living, I’ve never read a title and clicked on the video so fast in my entire life
Now what's better than Laser submarine? Shark with fricking Laser attached to their head!!!
Awesome....money well spent..Good reason they have all the distractions on the surface and on Land..thanks for Videos...we never really know what they are building under the Top Secret Title, just as long as we can counter whatever comes at us....Love the moduler ideas...
A laser sub sounds cool. Although fog and rain will stop it from working.
Promising
:) AUKUS coming along nicely then
Lasers make anything better, like flames for acceleration and stripes for speed, lasers for Bad ass!
-- Whoever can get a laser to operate efficiently under water (I know it's for surface threats) but whoever could do that, that's like inventing the wheel. EDIT: The power it would take to vaporize a temporary channel through the water, that's Star Trek stuff. Might act as a countermeasure though.
Perhaps the laser beam creates a hollow tube to travel?
Photons can permeate H20.
I have a fossil fuel Texas Class Tundra truck with laser sight weapons. Its considerably cheaper and requires less manpower to operate. The best part is its less likely to cause an international incident and you didn't have to pay for it.
🤣🤣
When you can scare Pooties or Xi let us know...
I think it'll come in handy if the PLA ever invades us. They will surely not step foot in Texas, though. Actually, the entire country is pretty much a no-go zone. The Leafs may even take a trip down South and lend a hand if that ever happened. For now the Navy will stick with their fancy laser subs.
God bless America.
Comment comes from Vancouver Canada
They should put railgun on it too xD
SALVATION
@@abikeanditsboy3449 you dont get the joke...
Added security vs ariel or small surface threats when in port or otherwise on the surface while most vulnerable? Sounds like a fine plan.
Yes, you can’t trust those mermaids.
You use a laser under water,and you'll have quite the plasma discharge.
Quite the discharge of a lot of things. Maybe even splitting of oxygen and hydrogen causing air pockets (which you can do a LOT with)
Dam we’re awesome
Let’s not forget lasers can and are used in communications equipment. I know lasers can be used as a direct line of sight unhackable way of communicating, and eavesdropping on nearly any surface. I think lasers are much more useful as tools than as weapons.
Lasers also make nice virtual or synthetic antennas
and be used to send direct energy waves to orbital craft
Communication to satellite or aircraft.
@@chadx8269 Or to make a conductive plasma filament as a virtual synthetic antenna. Or to do "other" things that are disruptive to C3 continuity.
Subs with freaking laser beams! Dr Evil would be proud
More speculation needed
We are rapidly getting Seaquest DSV levels of technology.
Keep up good work laser sounds good I'll work on drawings
So, I’m 90% sure this laser is for communication and lidar. Recent advances in blue laser tech shows that it can effectively send gb/s data streams varying in transmission rates over long distances in seawater. If this 500kw laser can send even a few mb/s over say 200-300 meters, for the first time in history, a group of submarines would be able to coordinate at depth. Making them incredibly dangerous hunters against both enemy subs and surface vessels. Imagine two submarines leapfrogging together, able to stop and listen, and communicate any contacts. If they find another sub, they can coordinate their attack silently. Sharing information is the most powerful component in warfare. Similarly LiDAR is extremely useful for mapping and avoiding underwater objects.
Hello from Newport News!
you show bow array on the sides(flank array) of the submarines and it doesn't replaces the spherical array it in addition too!
"I want sharks with fricken laser beams on their heads."
However cruise missiles work is crazy. The way they self adjust is just a wonder if science and engineering today
Take that Sharks with "Lasers".
My warfare specialty was ASW (P-3, AW and a 1320). A laser on the mast of an enemy sub would have been an attention grabber. 😳
This, I suspect, is the REAL reason for this. Most of the possible targets of the laser are too hard for any sort of reasonable expectation of a kill, but blinding ASW aircraft seems like a real possibility.
Shoot a laser through a fibre optic cable with its end at the surface that has a targeting tip. This allows a sub to fire it's laser underwater at any target while at depth . Will it work?
Interesting question.
It's crazy how big these submarines are.
lol they are not tho this info is not perfect as I served on one but yeah they not as big as you think and def not on the inside.
Frickin sharks with frickin laser beams!!!!
Finally sharks with friggin lasers
The laser can go on a mast, like a periscope. It's targets would be enemy aviation assets.
"That's NO MOON!"
I think it’s most likely to be used for surface defense and attack but with a reactor powering it, who knows..might have enough umph to Fck up a close underwater target
1:14 That’s my city! (Groton/New London, CT!)
4:44 That is a radar mast. The photonics masts should be the tall ones at 4:37
It's got a frickin laser beam!
All this man’s videos and channels so should be required viewing in United States Classrooms.
'' Lazers!! Pew! Pew! pew!''
While lasers don't really work underwater, non-laser based directed energy weapons might....which makes things far more interesting...
Maybe the laser can be used as a communication device with other navy vessels? Modern submarines need to be close to surface to pick up very long wave radio signal or 2 way satellite transmissions. Maybe a suitable drone could be sent down to similar depth of the sub and open high capacity laser link with sub while connected by cable to mother ship?
Lasers make plasma…plasma makes a good antenna.
laser for seafloor mapping and collision avoidance sounds worth it to me...
Cylinder gotta big that big
There is one application lasers could be used underwater: multiple, spacially separated beams of sufficient burst energy can be focused to cause cavitation.
Those "special ops" teams in this video were the men of the firefighting team and their equipment.
Now we are prepared
On your thumbnail, the massive fantail is well obscured from view. The shape of those blades are a closely guarded secret. It effects the amount of bubble cavitation and thus sonar noise. We don't want anybody with a boat as quiet as ours.
Let's get this
laser weapons do not work underwater. It has to be for attacking surface targets or air targets.
Why are we still using subsonic Tomahawks when hypersonic missiles are the state of the art?
"Underwater" is no different than any other optical medium. Ocean saltwater happens to have a specific transmission window in the longwave/near- UV spectrum (330 - 480 nm). And the world's most efficient (30%) high-energy laser is the Nitrogen super-radiant gas discharge system. Which operates at 337.1 nm (primary output wavelength). Since the population medium is Nitrogen gas, it's perfect for transmission thru earth's atmosphere as well. FYI... especially underwater, 500 KW is NOT sufficient energy. It would require a CW laser sustaining target lock for >15 seconds at a range 1.0 MW CW sustained...
for 3.5 MW per "shot" (30% laser efficiency). The Virginia-class is presently outfitted w/ a 210 MW nuclear reactor. The 3.5 MW/sec load of the Nitrogen laser is
Id like to see modular sub technology.
One interesting side effect of using commercial off the shelf (COTS) is the potential for counterfeit materiel. Always been curious about the certification process for COTS circuit boards. Boards made in China can be a real problem because besides them not being built to spec, they can also contain malicious firmware.
Lasers were tested as communication devices for subs in the 1980s, but the sub had to be shallow for it to work.
Lack of focus
@@Olkv3D Since, that time astronomy has developed techniques using two lasers. One to read atmospheric conditions which is then used to alter the second laser to correct for the defraction.
@@Fifthmiracle Perhaps you meant to say diffraction?
Although, diffraction with laser light is primarily used to measure the amount of particles per volume of a given sample.
What I was referring to was the refraction of a laser beam in large, moving bodies of water.
Only works with line of sight though. And clouds are a major hurdle.
Totally agreed ! Red it should be . GO USA 🇺🇸 our technology is light years ahead of the world .
Have they considered just using sharks with fricken laser beams?
a towed defense array would hide the real position of the sub, keeping it under water but still powered by a nuc reactor, perhaps even drawing fire and allowing the sub to hit the attacker from a different position
Under budget and ahead of schedule? I know a few people working at the New Port News ship yard. One a welder. His welds didn't get x-rayed so he had to go back and clean all his welds THREE TIMES
Yes, under budget and ahead of schedule never happens with military projects.... anywhere.
the us subs can drop small devise that can track enemy subs under water or a drone that can fallow enemy subs
“Are they ill tempered submarines with fricken laser beams attached to their heads?’’
A military grade laser used under water could be a novel way to effectively ping a target without giving away your position. (Think Lidar but underwater) Could also be used to manually guide a torpedo without it needing to actively ping the target. Thus keeping the enemy unaware of the incoming ordinance until its too late. Granted, the range would be somewhat limited but it wouldn't really have to be more than 1-2 km for it to still be very effective. The biggest factors for the lasers range would be the wavelengths used (obviously, lower wavelengths will travel much further before being absorbed by the water), the mode of transition (pulsed or continuous lasing) and its potential output.
Other non military uses...
Short Ranged Communications: With other ships, aircraft and "friendly" subs. Once again the range wouldn't be great but the data thru-put would be pretty nice. Such laser tech could easily find many 3rd party applications outside of it military use just like GPS did with cell-phones and civilian navigation.
Terrain Mapping: Scanning the sea bottom to help search for oil / gas and to help navigate in shallow water.
Nah
@@LilMilan420 Wow that was very constructive.
They need to have focused EMP weapon to disable both air and surface threats.
you could probably instensify the power and size of the laser as your powered off a nuclear reactor, would work well on aircraft carriers as well, probably better than diesel generators on a destroyer or 747
Scratchy voice guy makes this video all the more serious.
This is a pretty interesting video. It's unfortunate that the narrator speaks so fast that you can barely understand him.