BISPING: Alex Pereira is "POUND for POUND No.1!?" | AHEAD of Islam and Jones? 🤔
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- Опубликовано: 6 окт 2024
- Michael Bisping gives his breakdown of Alex Pereira being ranked 2nd in the pound for pound rankings ahead of Jon Jones but under Islam Makhachev after his knockout win vs Khalil Rountree at UFC 307
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khabib retired undefeated because he retired at 32…chama defends the belt 3 times in 7 months at 37 years of age….plus 5 former champions compared to khabib’s 2…two division champ vs single division…this is hardly a conversation now
Khabib wasnt fast tracked to the title.
@@albertgarcia9273khabib only fought 2 legit guys Dustin and Justin and khabib has fought tomato cans and Alex was already glory 2 division champion and he defeated Strickland and Izzy
@@Culture_2520 ok. What other “legit guys” were available and ranked at the time that he didnt fight?
@@Culture_2520 Strickland sucks.
@@Culture_2520 RDA isn't legit? And Conor was literally a double champ. Casual spotted.
Pereira isn’t only the most active, but he’s torn through two divisions. There’s absolutely no way you can put Islam or Jones above him if you take activity into account. Especially when Jones is ducking Aspinall.
Pereira did not tear through MW 🤣 Strickland and Adesanya are the only top 15 fighters from MW he faced, both strikers. You are a certified casual
@@GS-rm7fv That is a very good point. I stand corrected. He still reached the top of two divisions though - let’s not pretend he would’ve lost to the likes of Cannonier, Vettori, Costa etc though lol. P.S. I’m not a casual but that was a pretty casual mistake by me 🤣
1000% true
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You are a clown. How could Jones duck Aspinal when he’s been booked to fight Stipe for almost two years? Why would he mess up that legacy fight two years in the making? Makes no sense. You are like the democrats and repeat what the news tells ya. Instead of the news, you repeat what the casuals say.
Mike,I don't think beating a mid 40s retired Miocic is the flex you think it is😂
Jon Jones eats Alex lol
Im an Islam and khabib fan but I right now Pereira is p4p king. Props to him
If he wasn't number one before this fight I'm not sure beating the number 8 ranked fighter in your division makes you number one lol
You can't really be p4p best when you have glaring holes in your game. Alex is an elite striker but his ground game and wrestling is weak. UFC is protecting him because he's so fun and they have no stars. Until we see Alex face an elite wrestler who tries to get him down over and over it's real hard for me to rate his game as complete.
@@chrishayes5755you casuals will find ANYTHING to complain about. Even when Alex knocks Magomed out... you'll be like "Alex only won bc magomed didn't wrestle. Alex has beaten like 5 world champions who's been doing MMA way longer than him. Stop with the excuses
@@MAkAVeLlIiiiit's simply true. I'd put Pereira higher on GOAT list than p4p
Khabib has been out of the game for almost 5 years and people are still talking about him. There's an unhealthy obsession with this guy. Why compare two guys from two different weight classes that fought in different timelines?
Pereira wasn't even in the UFC when Khaibb retired from the sport of MMA.
It's like comparing Charles Oliveira with Anderson Silva. Complete nonsense.
People need to take in consideration that Pereira fights in the weakest, less talented division in MMA.
The LHW division is washed, let's be honest. And the only guy who could give Alex some real problems isn't in Dana White's plans for the future. He'd rather have Rakic or Ulberg as the new faces of this division once Pereira leaves the UFC.
Khabib beat 2 world champions in his whole career.
Alex so far has beaten 5 (4 KO’s )
Not to forget that he is a 2 division weight champ. The guy had the best start in ufc history.
Ofcourse how can he defeat other UFC champions when it was not offered by UFC? But without a doubt, Khabib can easily defeat and smash former UFC champions
- Henderson who was knockout by Dos Anjos and chocked by Usman Nurmagomedov. Khabib will easily smash him.
- Pettis who lost to Dos Anjos, submitted by Poirier and knockout by Ferguson. Khabib will easily smash him also.
- Alvarez who was knockout by Poirier & McGregor. Did you forget that Khabib easily choked McChicken and Poirier?
- Edgar who lost to Henderson twice, lost to Aldo twice. Khabib will easily smash him.
- Penn who lost to Edgar 3 times. If Penn can't win against Edgar, how can he defeat Khabib?
- Oliveira who was knockdown and choked by Islam. Khabib will smash him easily and choke.
Since November 2020.
Jones is 1-0
Pereira is 10-1
Islam is 8-0 with 1 questionable decision
I take into account only the title fights,Islam barely won his first title defence,2nd time had opponent on short notice,and 3rd was against a dude that had his peak a few years ago😂
Lmao thats an insane stat. Alex def #1 P4P.
It is insane that Jon Jones only fought 1 time in the last 4 years. We literally had 2 summer Olympic games in that meantime
Alex got ko'd bad and won hard fight against #8 ranked guy
@@marghooburrahman3051 only reason he lost was because he was weight drained and rushed in, he was dominating. He beat Izzy 3 times. Eventually if u fight someone 5 times you'll win one.
The pound for pound talk is overdone! I’m baffled that people care so much just like the GOAT topic. I swear it’s just there for people to argue very silly.
It’s a fun topic it’s not THAT serious lol
@@Ziggyvu Most people take it THAT serious lol
Pereira 100% has a better record than Khabib. Took Khabib 18 fights to fight anyone of note, then fought a few gatekeepers like old as shit Barboza, Raging Al, and Michael Johnson; Then fought a few striking only fighters in Gaethje, Poirier and Conor, then retired. He also conveniently retired right before he was set to fight the murderers row of grapplers that Islam took up the mantle against.
Hell, Islam is already VERY close to overtaking Khabib and has fought more well rounded competition.
Islam has already overtaken Khabib in my opinion. Khabibs resume is super overrated
Lmao khabib mauled everyone, Pereira beat mid fighters
Khabibs record is solid. Definitely not the greatest, but he did what he wanted with his career, and got out undefeated when he wanted. Smart man if you're thinking about life after fighting.
@@theunbeatable6598 Delusion is a real thing
@@ByTexify Something all khabib hating Conor fangirls suffer from
Dana gave Bisping permission (during said oiling) to give Pereira the number one spot, but only until Jones beats a forty-two-year-old who hasn't won a fight since August 15, 2020.
_Make it make sense._
So if he says Jones is nr1 it's because of Dana. But if he says it's Pereira, then it's also because of Dana? That's some straight 12yo logic right there.
Make it make sense
Bisping is a super sellout companyman and i like him alot
@@wowcarnage You've failed to make it make sense, congrats.
@@pigeonwaltz That's because your statement doesn't make any sense to begin with. But great response🤡 You've failed to even clarify your dumbass statement. Congrats. I was only joking but I guess you really are 12yo. Just Parrotting what you hears youtubers say without really understanding the words that you're saying.
he lost a round to conor
And to Gleison Tibau
@@kawhileonard9082 I would argue he lost the damn fight even though he fought a juice head
He ducked Tony for 5 years and layed and prayed to win.
3 title defences inside 5 months and 21 day is INSANE
Ankalaev barely wrestles anyway. He's more of a striker at this point. I think because he's Dagestani people immediately make the assumption that he's an elite wrestler/grappler, but we don't see it enough to know. He was choked out by Paul Craig, which, even if a fluke, is not something I could picture elite grapplers like Khabib or Islam getting caught with. If Ankalaev decided to trade with Alex in the stand up, there's only one winner. Lets not forget that Pereira is also improving his grappling having worked with elite guys for a few years, including having Glover as his coach.
alex got taken down by izzy so what do you think that ankalaev cant take down alex..its too easy for ankalaev to beat alex...alex can beat ankalaev by knocking him up at standup....alex went with jan a close fight decision win and ankalaev is gonna beat alex but the ufc is not pushing him thats it they are afraid that they will lose alex as a champion thats the fact first alex has to beat ankalaev then we can talk
Finally someone who knows the facts, everybody acts like Ankaleav is a LHW Khabib but the man is a striker.
@@Frazer_98you’re completely delulu, if they wanted Alex to stay champ they wouldn’t even let him be that active🤡 Ankaleav isn’t a wrestler, and he said himself he wants to stand with Alex and outstrike him.
Tom aspinall not on there ? To me tom could smash that entire top 10 p4p
I agree that Tom should be top 10.
At least top 10, but in my opinion top 5. With a win over jones #1 hands down.
Nah Bisping would say Jon is pfp because he boot licks Dana.
Bootlicks Dana over his friend Aspinall who is actually the nr 1 p4p right now, its despicable
@@ByTexify tom is not p4p
@@fgc1850 Yes he is, he would be the favorite to win against Pereira or Jones 100%. Maybe number 2 if you want to put Makhachev ahead of him
The pfp is a ridiculous conversation. It's saying if all the fighters were the same size and weight who would win. So if mighty mouse was 250 does his strength go up or it stays the same? What about his speed, does he keep his speed? Are we adjusting their stats 😂
Jon Jones finished everybody by abusing peds. So if you wanna give him that top spot then we know you also did some things during your career as well.
Alex is destroying everyone and just keeps coming back for more. No question.
Alex is special and much much more ahead of everyone in fighting and mental skill...
Almost couldn't hear bisping over Danas balls smothering his voice 😂
Bisping doesn’t make any sense he goes on the say Alex isn’t above Khabib because a loss but then says Islam is doing the same as khabib and losses happen. Ends the video with Alex being 1 right now . Definition :::: shit show .
He is definately the P4P No. 1 right now.
for a dude that speaks out against cheating so much, dunno how you can put JJ in any list, plus he has a loss on record
Islam still number #1 pound for pound. Beat #1 #2 #3 all ufc champion. 14 win streak. Pereira good too but i think he's still number 2
I think most of us can agree it's Alex, dudes the most active fighter right now, ahead of Islam, and when he performs he puts on bangers, and is a knock out artist on top of that, this dude has it all
It's going to be sad once he takes a break, but he is long over due a good break from the octagon
Ankalaev got CRUSHED by Jan’s leg kicks. Who are we kidding here? Chama will finish him in 1-2 rounds.
Alex got taken down by Izzy. Who are we kidding here? Ank will drag him to the ground and ragdoll him.
Once ank gets him down hes gonna do everything to sub him, and would probably get it done too
@@areebsiddiqui758lol Ankalaev is not a wrestler
@@GS-rm7fvwho has ankalaev subbed again ? Yeah no one 😂 instead he was the one who got subbed by paul craig
Pereira got dropped by khalil lmao.
Ankalaev by ground and pound TKO
Not calling him PFP is the biggest load of shit at this point and I’ve been saving this Multiple division champ. Beats so many former champs. Saved so many cards, very active, extremely dominant, fights while injured, fights while sick. Meanwhile Islam sits out til next year and fights featherweights. This man is pound for pound period
if he beat ankalev i agree alex without doubt he p4p..but he beat khalil ... so relax..
@@Muhamad2772 always the Mohammeds 😂 tell your goat lover to actually fight them and not cherry pick locations like a bum… so relax
Big facts. I could see ankalaev getting subbed by poatan lol 🤣 these people think ank a wrestler are about to have they life ruined. I don't even think ank bears rakic...
@@kyle2206
Clown: "... And fights featherweight"
Reality: only fights Volk the P4P #1 at the time, featherweight champ and arguably the GOAT. Clown featherweight
He beat Khalil, Islam beat Dustin.. Islam is undoubtly the p4p best
Poatan proved to be the "nail" before when he fought Adesanya 1st fight, he lost the first rounds and cameback to win in the later rounds, as Adesanya once said "he's a comeback kid" not only he has nuclear power, fight IQ, physiognomy and great hearth. He's just an amazing fighter in general.
My 2 cents about P4P discussion, i guess a win over Kalil n8 someone with a not so great cartel shouldn't make him switch places with Islam for now, it just does not make a lot of sense, we need to see Islam vs Arman and Poatan vs Ankalaev to have a solidified argument on which is the best.
Khabib has lost a round, fuck he lost round 3 to Conor. Alex is definitely higher than Khabib.
what are you smoking 😂
These comments are ridiculous. Pound for pound ranking is a current theoretical argument. You are thinking more of all time or “Mt Rushmore” ranking.
Jones and Khabib are not on any pound for pound list right now.
A FIGHT BETWEEN PEREIRA VS CIRYL GANE WOULD SHOW US WHO IS THE BEST KICKBOXER IN THE UFC !!!
Pirera did dominate the whole game.
Chama!... that's what I'm talking about, you start to realize now. If wrestling can win fights so much does striking but warriors is more relate in striking.
Is mighty mouse at heavy weight as fast as he is at fly/bantam weight? P4P talk definitely has issues
Exactly, if the speed stays the same does his strength also stay? Or are we just adjusting stats?
You're completely missing the point
@@cczzucchiIt's all about skills.
@@ZacJackson-y2q so skills and stats stay the same? Speed and strength are what makes the.
@@cczzucchi so it's just make Believe, but it's like this. If Jones went down to bantamweight u just translate his skills for that division, and you imagine how fast and strong he would be for that division based on how he was at his natural division and weight.
Alex did beat Jan in a close fight so he’s been tested against a wrestler. It wasn’t a great win but he did pull it out.
P4P is stupid because different styles favor different weight classes.
If I hear "hammer and the nail" one more time...
Alex Pereira is the PVP 1#, don't give me any crap about khabib never lost a round BS, he got his ass whooped by Tibau, also he runaway and retired to not lose his "perfect record" BS a lot, all morrons out there fans rly belive he is a goat bc all them is a F casual.
I don't think Ankalaev will be as much of a challenge as Khalil was. He isn't a pure striker but hes close, in my opinion a fight between Alex and Magomed is going to look a lot like the Jan fight did.
The real discussion about p4p should be between Alex and Ilia.
Alex is number one…. You have to consider two weight classes in such a short period of time.
He didn’t do what u claim, he was placed and ppl are eating it up, he just got whooped by rank 8, could lose 2 any fighter
I'm Dana White and I approve this message...
Legendary Alex poatan Pereira achieved so much both in Glory kickboxing and now in UFC within short period of time that lots of fighters can only dream About that type of achievements man
Some people will go nuts if Rakic TKO Ankalaev
I will. Just because Ank fans are so annoying, acting like Ank is an all time great when all he does is beat cans.
People will argue that you have the best the “most active” and winning to be declared as p4p. They say Jon can’t possibly be p4p because he’s not active enough…. But then Alex is now more active then Islam and now they change they’re argument and argue against poatan. It’s a weird thing with these people.
Pereira at HW is such an exciting prospect. If he beats Ankolaev, i think its a great move. No weight cut, gets to eat what he wants, more strength and conditioning, it would be fun to watch
Conor did win a round against khabib
Everyone needs to relax. Khabib's father died and his mother pleadid for him to retire, as he did. The fight game is a job, not peoples life. It is quite simple to understand. It is what it is. Pereira is undoubtedly without a shadow of a doubt the best fighter in UFC to pick up a pair of gloves. These clowns who think Jones would even tie his shoes are dreaming. Jones is hiding... Pereira is on a completely other stratosphere of skill and excellence.
Alex Pereira is next level active, dominating. No khabib, Jones, will match that profile.
❤ Alex
Jon Jones should be number 1 hes so brave faceing an old man that hasnt fought in 3 years. Hes facing the best guy in the division and hes never taken steroids.
Jones ducking Aspinal and cherry picking Miocic is the weakest move ever in UFC HW history.
Why do people keep labelling Ankalaev as a wrestler when not even he does that to himself? Maybe we should all take a look at his TD stats
He aint GOAT, not yet. But p4p- hell yeah. Active, fought champs/ex champs, fought on short notice, 90% of wins are KOs and TKOs
You're making it seem like Ankalaev is that good. Jan is better than him lol
Pound for Pound is completely ridiculous and means nothing at all. Its nothing more than a performance ranking so they should call it that.
Have to build that hype for the fight between Bonz and Alex
JJ has never fought anyone bigger or younger than him. He simply can't be the P4P #1.
Pereira would absolutely sleep anyone from that glamour division lol
I don't know Bisping but it aint you. Pereira is my fav fighter - "aww friends" - but Jones and Aspinall beat him in mma all day long.
Bisping not you too, please stop d-riding Jon Jones, we think highly of you
I love bisping but he’s a company man. What Dana white says… he does as well. He knows where the bread gets buttered.
@@ProtossHyrdaliskit’s sad because I don’t think Dana would even care but he just seems to love boot licking 🤷♂️
@@ProtossHyrdaliskdon’t be silly. We are all entitled to our opinions.
It's definitely Alex now but I agree if Jon Jones gets the win he will be
@@bisping yeah but this not an opinion, that's you selling your soul for rubbish 🗑
You can see mike is struggling to accept alex is the king . He always picks against him . He barely gave him the nod to win over khalilililili .
Who’s the heavy weight champion?
He is 100% right about Jon jones. Period. End of discussion.
If Pereira went heavyweight, I don't think he would be a match for Aspinall's strength if/when it goes to the ground. If that is true, then is he really #4#?
Pereira has had the same number of title fights in less than 11 months as Khabib had in two and a half years.
Why is makhachev even in the list???? He has only defended his belt a couple times and hasnt done anything outsids his weight apart from nearly losing to volk a whole weight class lower...... Islam shouldnt even be considered. Pereira and jones and possibly holloway if he beats topuria are the obvious choices here.
When Jon would beat stipe
Tf stipe is forty years of age
Even older and coming from a bad bad beating from Ngannou
Tom would finish both on same night in the first round probably
Even Alex would have a good chance against both
Look at Jones against Smith, Gustafsson 1,Reyes loss,Santos
Tom and even Alex could knockout Jon cold
How is Ilia that high? That list is ridiculous
You can have an argument over who is the P4P, but you can never include jon jones. Maybe for greatest LHW ever but not P4P, that should be potan or aspinall.
This pound for pound talk is complete nonsense, I just don’t get it. Appreciate every champ in their own devision. And Ankaleav is NOT a wrestler but a striker, wake up everybody, he’s not bringing anything new.
P4P is BS ....because just like you cannot compare a sedan with a sports car or a SUV similarly how can compare fighters across different weight categories.
If you take a close look at most Jon Jones ' opponents, you will find out most of them were natural Middleweihgts fighting at LHW. The likes of Chael Sonnen who primarily fought at middleweight before challenging Jones at light heavyweight at UFC 159, Vitor Belfort who also had a significant career at middleweight before moving up to fight Jones at UFC 152 and Lyoto Machida who had fought at middleweight earlier in his career before moving up to light heavyweight, where he faced Jones at UFC 140. Alex on the other hand has been fighting Real LHWs, the likes of Jan Blachowicz who has a big stocky head, Jiri Prochazca, Jamal Hill, Khalil Rountree. That's why I think Alex Poatan is the real LHW goat.
You are so clueless it hurts.
Yep, they have to take into account activity rates.
Bisping and Dana is like Usher and Diddy of UFC.
I can’t say he’s P4P. I’d bet my life savings, that if Taiwanchai was 205lbs, he’d likely murder Alex (yes, im aware that saenchai doesn’t fight in the UFC) That said, I also bet, if Islam was 205 as well as them, he’d destroy Tai. Therefore, even though I don’t believe Jon Jones is what he once was, in fact he kinda looked sloppy af on the feet against Gane….as long as Jon doesn’t lose, and is still active, he’s the P4P. You can’t argue it successfully.
Dricus belongs on that list more than Jones does
Idk why but I feel like Jon Jones is the true p4p fighter in the world.
Rakic will beat ankalaev
yah i agree is pereira right now and jones if he comes back and wins you cant deny jones at all he has never lost
As much I like Alex Pereira he doesn't have the UFC record to be the UFC pound for pound. Far from it. Yes he's got a huge accomplishment but it's not even close to Islam who only lost once like 8 years ago. Since then he's beaten every guy worth beating in the most dominating division.
Jon done it with PEDs , Alex did with Chama 😭
Yeah 100% agree he’s defo P4P no1 for beating an 8th ranked opponent 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Left hook ain’t working on ankalev
jon jones the cheating steroid king should never be mentioned in p4p and g.o.a.t. Everyone talks crap about boxing, but what happens in boxing if you are caught cheating? If you win and get caught cheating. The fight is a no contest.
Alex hasn't had a MMA fight yet unfortunately
Khabib lost a round against Conor and the judges gave justin gaethji a round against him
Jon beating a 43 year old definitely does not put him at the top of the p4p list if he beats aspinall sure otherwise.... simply no
Dana White wont like it, and will make you kicked out of the ufc in the commentary
What about our Tom? He has to be in the top 3 p4p surely?
Jon lost to reyes
Alex Pereira beat Jan Blachowicz. It was not pretty but hard - fought. He accomplished what Israel Adesanya could not. Ankalaev drew against Jan. Yes, MMA Mathematics but King Chael says mma math works. Jon Jones is the GOAT, so Alex Pereira and Jon Jones need to fight at heavyweight... That's it. The Count giving us the cold facts.
Yes p4p he's the most active fighter right now
Magomedov is not a pedigree wrestler for a start
If Jones beats miocic he will be on a 2 fight win streak since losing to Reyes
Alex needed more time to work on his wrestling defense before going up against the wrestler, company using him for profits
Peraira Is Scared Of Ankalaev.
Oh my goodness Michael how much is Dana paying you for this Jon Jones analogy, he will be fighting an old man, why is he not fighting Tom ????????
John Jones got caught cheating so he should not be in the discussion.
Pound for pound no1 should be Tom Aspinal
Great call
Didn’t Conor win a round against Khabib?
GOAT and P4P is not the same thing Mike 👍 don’t make me set Nick peat on you 😂😂😂
Mackachev is only PpP #1 in Abu Dhabi, is the only place he fights