to this he has admitted it's his ego that he follows over being self-awear its in a video about rock either with cena or someone doing it about logan before wining us title
Well when your Amazon package doesnt arrive, the driver is at fault, not Jeff Bezos. Look im not standing up for Logan Paul, but hes not a developer, hes just a rich kid who hired a team to do the work for him. Logan should be suing these friends of his IF he is infact not involved in all the criminality
lmao what!? If an Amazon delivery is late I’m mad at Amazon even though it COULD be the drivers fault. Driver isn’t the only one in that chain. Terrible, terrible analogy.
@@BlendWorxdude these guys were working directly under Logan on development and marketing Jeff bezos is so many levels of management above the driver that I can almost Gaurentee atleast 95% of driver have never spoken to him this comparison is completely out of touch with the example
Well he said trying to get to a point he's proud of, but I'm thinking he's talking out his ass anyways, anyone with half a brain knows these RUclipsr cryptocurrencies are just scams. Logan trying to call it a game is crazy imo
Who knows what sociopaths are proud of. Maybe (actually quite likely) having money, and thus power over others. Which is kind of pitiful. But again - some appear to get a kick out of it.
I detest Logan Paul. He has proven himself to lack any type or moral compass. I sincerely hope Coffeezilla gets a great lawyer and makes Paul pay for every syllable he spoke.
He had a few years after the incident where people were thinking huh maybe he's growing up a bit and figuring it out, and now here we are, In a time where he makes his horrendous brother look like an angel. He should have never gotten his second chance after Japan.
There's a team of lawyers who have seen people lose stupid lawsuits because the person suing was rich. This team has "allegedly" personally reached out to coffezilla to take the case without clearing his wallet.
Kinda, he gave people a week or so to accept some of the money. If they did take them, they would also agree that logan did nothing wrong and he couldn't be sued.
He offered to gjve people a fraction of what they lost, on the condition that they forever give up any right to sue him or participate in the ongoing class-action lawsuit.
@@kiraina25 It's hilarious that the discovery from his deformation suit against Coffee is going to absolutely work against him in the class action suit. Logan is such a moron for attempting to SLAPP suit Coffee.
California is a two party consent state however you are allowed to record one party without the others consent if you believe a crime is being/has been committed.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350Except typically in the US ifit's between two states with different laws such as recording consent, the system typically favors the state with the harsher laws. At least, that's what I vaguely remember hearing from my professor.
i am sure notification was made. I have given or been a part of many interviews and it is standard for a reporter to give notice that the interview is being recorded. Not to mention, wiretapping is a criminal offense. Not sire there is a civil action related.
I love how at 3:59 Logan ONLY talks about ONE of the dozens of victims Coffeezilla interviewed and he SPECIFICALLY only targets the ONE GUY who had dirt on him. He's saying this as if everyone else that lost money on this project doesn't exist because of that one guy. "Oh, you're arresting me for robbing a bank? But I can't be arrested because look, one of the tellers I robbed had a history of shoplifting!"
I'm no lawyer but and I'm not 100% sure on laws regarding phone calls from two people in separate states but in Texas where coffeezilla lives it's a one-party state meaning one party only needs to consent to record a phone call.
Logan must have the worst lawyers in the world. Any lawyer worth his salt would have told him to stop shooting his mouth off and trying to lie his way out of trouble. What a stupid man.
Not only that but Coffee asked for comment which is basically prompting the fact that he is gathering information and probably recording. What also doesn't help is that the clip he uses as an example wasn't even from Coffee? It was from the other investigator who was looking into Eddie. If you are an investigator and openly calling I'm assuming Jeff was given the know of it being recorded and possibly being posted as findings?? Like either way their screwed.
@@CruseCloudLuckily for Coffee, they might allow it because he specifically said he was investigating the allegations which means Jeff didn’t really have a reason to believe the phone call would be private, especially since they know who Coffee is and what he does.
As far as I'm aware, Texas is a single party consent state for recording conversations. On one person involved in a conversation needs to consent for it to be recorded, in this case coffee. That seems to be a really shit angle to sue him for, unless they can somehow sue him in a different state.
If you could sue someone in one state for committing a crime in another state then thats fucken wild. Whats the point of having different laws based on state if you can sue them from across the country? America is wild
@@Don-KeedikCrimes can cross borders. If you record someone who is located in a two party consent state over the phone while you are located in a one party state, both state laws apply.
@electrified0 nah that doesn't sound right, I'm not from America but if it worked that way then there would be alot more cross state issues, like they would have to compromise
@@electrified0except it doesn’t and it’s pretty wild to think that. You can’t be subject to a law of a different state or country for the duration of a telephone call if you live in a two party state and call someone in a single party state the law doesn’t change so that both people are now sharing the same local law since what law would then take precedence. The state and local laws apply where you make/receive a call if a person making a call lives in a two party consent state records a call with a person in a single party state without receiving the consent of the other person they BROKE the law it’s irrelevant where the other party is situated and what their laws are. If you live in a single party consent state you can’t BREAK the law by recording a call it’s irrelevant where the other side of the call is situated. The law is relatively simple at its core. You either break the law or you don’t and you can’t be arrested for breaking the law in another jurisdiction if you haven’t broke the law in your own jurisdiction. It’s the same for a new law you can’t be arrested and charged for breaking a law that didn’t exist unless the law specifically states it’s also retroactively applied and even then it usually has a cutoff date.
Coffezilla has insurance to cover his legal fee, so I don't think he's a bit worried. And Logan still has to come up with details of the money people lost to a penny, the man has a history & I doubt he didn't make money from it. Btw he jumped to a new project right after cryptozoo went bust, if that's not shady what is!!!
His intention, I'd imagine is to SLAPP Coffeezilla. But that won't really work out right? Between insurance, Coffee's own legal funds. And crowdfunding. This can go on as long as it takes and the cost will be more than monetary for Logan. It'll be business reputation. People. Even unscrupulous business ghouls, don't wanna work with people they know will throw their peers under the bus.
@@Palemagpie Coffee's insurance claim was denied. He's launched a merch drop to source legal funding. Coffee is insuring that everyone who supports him will get something for it, that's honestly admirable of him. Sucks, but basically Coffee's insurer scammed him.
@@scottgodkins2017 That's the funniest part of Logan's attempt to SLAPP suit Coffee. Discovery from their case can and will be used as evidence against him in the class action suit. It's the fattest L for Logan, honestly cannot wait to see Logan eat it.
I cant w8 for the day that scum wont be on the internet anymore, and how much fanboys and kids does like him, that after all this he still has that support from his fans, delusional from community, abuser lvl from Logan
Yeah if his lawsuit isn’t dismissed via anti-SLAPP and it isnt settled, idk how he could avoid discovery and depositions. Such a strange decision because while coffee was basically done with Logan., this puts the real possibility out there for him finding shit that makes the crypto zoo allegations seem tame, especially given that the lawsuit itself references dink doink, bringing even that into the scope for discovery
@@ThatGuy-nc8nf Logan filled a lawsuit, so the owner of this channel is fishing money with old recycled content. It's so weird not many call him out on this dumb shit.
Coffee is in Texas, a single party state. Federal law is single party. The suit is in Texas Federal court, not California, so Coffee is completely fine.
11:30 this video is "aimed" at Coffeezilla but it's not actually for him, it's for his fans and viewers and the folks who won't see Coffee's video. They will take Logan at his word and vouch for him like loyal little soldiers. I've seen his fan base, a *huge* amount is young girls/women and young boys/men. Like all Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and even some millenials and gen xr's! This video is a narcissistic defense that f*cking worked for him...
Logan Paul commending Coffeezilla for his work being impartial will never fail to be hilarious, because Coffeezilla exposed Logan's brother Jake Paul as a scammer even before he turned his sights on Logan.
I’m no expert, but some states do allow recording without consent of both parties. Not sure if that applies to that phone call or not. Would be interesting to hear from someone more informed on this specific fact.
It gets weird if it's 2 different states, I THINK if it was Logan who recorded without permission he would get in more trouble but because Coffee is in Texas he never needed permission for the recording
You're so right.. and you weren't bias because you put out points were coffee couldn't help with any legal investigations with real legal evidence..and other points out there you have... Thanks Charlie for being entertaining even while I'm very sick... Helps me with pain I'm going through now.
It depends on what state it was recorded in if it's illegal or not, there are plenty of one party states where only one of the parties has to consent to the recording.
Just seems like he got people to pass the blame on. And the blame didn’t pass as well as he’d thought 😂😂 the confidence Logan accusing coffee for using a criminals stand point is wild. You had to hire him my guy. You knew.
Legal recording depends on the state in the US you record from. In California it is illegal to record without permission. But in Texas there is 'one person permission' As long as Coffee is in Texas, and he is, and he is ok with recording himself, then there is no issue. Courts even in California look at where the call originated as the laws and regulations to uphold, as long as Coffee called someone in California from Texas, it doesn't matter if the recording is illegal in California. He is in Texas, the key issue here would be did Coffee receive or send the call? but even then courts tend to ignore if you call someone from another state on the side of, well it's somebody else's problem.
The best part about this lawsuit is Coffee can bring up all his scams he ran over the years. Just to show he has long and storied history of committing crimes.
18:09 The usage of the phone conversation depends on the state. In a lot of states they have dual consent meaning both people have to agree to have the call recorded, but some states aren’t dual consent. So that evidence would just depends on what states they were currently in when the call was recorded.
This is the appropriate way to run a fan account, good job Moisty Archive. By the way, how old is this clip? If it's recent I'm kinda surprised that it took Charlie this long to cover these videos and stuff because it's kinda old.
The thing about the phone call, it's legal in texas. Texas law state that you can record any voice call you are part of without needing the consent of the other parties so the fact that coffeezilla is in texas do matter.
The thing about the hatching is not the real problem, but there was a "passive earnings" part that was core of the business. Also, Coffee doesn't PLAY the part, but he always begins the talk with the "i'm recording" bit. Logan was not the first one to try to wag this at him. Lastly, the victim being a scammer also was irrelevant to the bit. He was not under scrutiny, why the hell would that be relevant? If he was stabbed by a robber, would the robber be able to use it in his defense? That's just a strawman fallacy bit
This is completely a conspiracy theory but is there any way to prove that he didn’t see any of the profits when the other guys sold and he held on to his to save face?
Bro I’m only 2 minutes in and as soon as Logan mentions that the guy was in jail I immediately said out loud “then why’d you hire him you idiot”. Because there’s no way Logan didn’t know that this guy was in jail AND STILL HIRED HIM.
He's right about the police: the police need to be with the helping party, so they can have precedence over evidence and stuff like that. An unknown party collecting evidence is counterproductive and unusable in a lot of cases.
I mean honestly I don’t get Logan being the main person getting attacked. We all know that he isn’t the person in the background. He’s the face. Same as prime. Him and Ksi “own the company” even though it’s owned by someone else
Some states use one-party concent laws. Some use two-party. It varies from state to state, so you'll have to check for your state. The gray area is the other party and what state they are in. If you are in a one party state and the other is in a two party state it gets iffy.
I don’t think it’s illegal to record a conversation with someone in the state of Texas. If I remember correctly, it is inadmissible in court without the permission from the other person to record the conversation in the state of Texas.
Isnt he just going to jail for the group controlling the price? That conversation about nobody sell well get the price, nobody sell. I thought that one was actually illegal
When youre doing as many projects as Logan Paul, you rely on your team to make the right decisions and keep your best interest at heart. The mans a WWE superstar, co-founder of one of the largest beverage companies in the world, podcast host/youtuber, and a newly engaged soon-to-be father. Each of which would be a full time job for most of us. With that being said, to blame him, solely, for “the hiring of scammers” is ridiculous. That would be like blaming Elon Musk for a faulty door on a Tesla or Jeff Bezos for a late package. Different scenarios, but essentially the same. As a leader, especially someone as busy as they, you can’t micromanage every step or detail of a project. You rely on the people you appoint to find the best people for the job. Sometimes they fuck up. But that doesn’t mean a few bad actors are representative of who they are as individuals. A leader creates a vision and brings it to life. In Logan’s case, manager Jeff probably should have vetted the developers more thoroughly. But, crypto and NFTs are a fairly new space, and developing a game using blockchain technology is a new venture even for Logan. Yappers will say, “but he has a responsibility and he put his name behind this project blah blah blah.” To be honest, everyone should be accountable for their own decisions. No one was forced to buy cryptozoo. And bad investments happen all the time, it’s a part of life. The reason people bought into cryptozoo was because the idea is genuinely good and creative (Even Logan Paul couldn’t market a bag of shit). But the most baffling thing is all the hate for a guy who 1) has made no money off this project, 2) has put up i think $1million+ for buybacks, and 3) has not even abandoned the project. Even if Logan doesn’t release the game, I still think he’s done more than enough in taking accountability. I dont usually leave comments on anything. But, following Logan over the years, has made me see that he’s an actual genuine person, he’s practiclly a victim himself. Other than this, he’s always followed through on his promises to his community and provided the most creative content and intriguing stories IMO. People will say im d*ck sucking, but im genuinely tired of all the hate online when nobody would act or say anything they post in real life.
The recording is illegal in California where logan and his manager are, so texas laws don't matter, the jurisdiction is where the people on the recording are
Note - if you want to reach Logan, don't go through his manager Jeff. You need to contact Logan personally. His manager is a manager because needs manager, but if you talk to Jeff, nothing is passed onward.
40:30 They can use from Coffee's investigation... ONLY IF it can be collaborated with a proper investigation then they might submitted akin to an expert testimony.
Coffeezilla does better covering stories and does more in depth investigation than almost any news media these days. I respect him so much for this. He states his opinion but seperates it from fact so its not mixed. Ive never questioned coffeezilla in any video he does. Not only that he doesnt just throw videos out for money and clicks.
Logan would be so embarrassed if he had the mental capacity for self-awareness.
Is he Logan Paul because he has no self-awareness or is he not self-aware because he is Logan Paul?
to this he has admitted it's his ego that he follows over being self-awear its in a video about rock either with cena or someone doing it about logan before wining us title
@@ladyjesk lol that would be like two worlds colliding
@@bapak321bapakat some point he got a brain scan and they found part of his frontal lobe was missing I’m not kidding
@@Everythingmachine ain't no way, that explains a lot.
Logan basically said "its everyone in my team's fault, just not mine, the face of the organization"
Lmao
Well when your Amazon package doesnt arrive, the driver is at fault, not Jeff Bezos. Look im not standing up for Logan Paul, but hes not a developer, hes just a rich kid who hired a team to do the work for him. Logan should be suing these friends of his IF he is infact not involved in all the criminality
lmao what!? If an Amazon delivery is late I’m mad at Amazon even though it COULD be the drivers fault. Driver isn’t the only one in that chain. Terrible, terrible analogy.
@@BlendWorxdude these guys were working directly under Logan on development and marketing Jeff bezos is so many levels of management above the driver that I can almost Gaurentee atleast 95% of driver have never spoken to him this comparison is completely out of touch with the example
@@BlendWorxso going by that logic , if you hire a person to commit a crime, does that make you exempt from all charges?
Logan Paul calling someone slimy for chasing clicks has to be the ultimate height of hypocrisy.
Craziest part is Logan saying he’s proud of the man he is
That's just how brain dead dudes talk
When you have no morals its easy to do 😂
Well he said trying to get to a point he's proud of, but I'm thinking he's talking out his ass anyways, anyone with half a brain knows these RUclipsr cryptocurrencies are just scams. Logan trying to call it a game is crazy imo
Proud of what ? Scamming his audience
Being a loser
Or making fun of the dead
Who knows what sociopaths are proud of. Maybe (actually quite likely) having money, and thus power over others. Which is kind of pitiful. But again - some appear to get a kick out of it.
Logan Paul REALLY said "addiction to clicks" LMFAO
Crazy😂
Kettle calling the pot black 😂
Is he still holding his dinkdoink?🤓
Said the asshole who showed a dead body right lol!
I'm kinda hoping after Logan Paul loses the lawsuit that Coffeezilla counter-sues for his costs and to prompt a criminal investigation.
that will be enterd automatically when coffe responds with the counter suit
Dude this stuff is from last year, Logan won’t sue since he knows he has no legal standing, this channel is just reuploading old content.
He would be wise to do that while the case is going.
@@urgae9125u must not be up to date because within the last week, Paul filed a lawsuit against coffee. Would recommend watching a video on it :)
@urgae9125 he actually did sue though he filed an official lawsuit last week Atozy and a few others have covered it
I detest Logan Paul. He has proven himself to lack any type or moral compass. I sincerely hope Coffeezilla gets a great lawyer and makes Paul pay for every syllable he spoke.
He had a few years after the incident where people were thinking huh maybe he's growing up a bit and figuring it out, and now here we are, In a time where he makes his horrendous brother look like an angel. He should have never gotten his second chance after Japan.
He got the lawyer that obliterated Alex Jones
Don't forget his brother Jake...
There's a team of lawyers who have seen people lose stupid lawsuits because the person suing was rich. This team has "allegedly" personally reached out to coffezilla to take the case without clearing his wallet.
I’m so glad this video exists because coffeezilla deserves the support
Didn’t Logan make an apology video accept the blame and say he was going to reimburse those that lost money?? Then follow it up by not doing it??
Kinda, he gave people a week or so to accept some of the money. If they did take them, they would also agree that logan did nothing wrong and he couldn't be sued.
He offered to gjve people a fraction of what they lost, on the condition that they forever give up any right to sue him or participate in the ongoing class-action lawsuit.
@@kiraina25 It's hilarious that the discovery from his deformation suit against Coffee is going to absolutely work against him in the class action suit.
Logan is such a moron for attempting to SLAPP suit Coffee.
Yet he sued him
>sell nfts
>"I'm the good guy"
Yeah 😂 these RUclipsr cryptocurrencies are just wild lmao. How people fall for these scams is amazing
California is a two party consent state however you are allowed to record one party without the others consent if you believe a crime is being/has been committed.
Fortunately, Coffeezilla is from Texas so it's no problem either way. Texas allows 1 party consent so coffee didn't need Jeff's consent.
@@michaelmcdoesntexist8350Except typically in the US ifit's between two states with different laws such as recording consent, the system typically favors the state with the harsher laws. At least, that's what I vaguely remember hearing from my professor.
@@FEKana Nope, since the 'crime' would have happened in a state where it is not a crime, the person in the other state is SOL
i am sure notification was made. I have given or been a part of many interviews and it is standard for a reporter to give notice that the interview is being recorded. Not to mention, wiretapping is a criminal offense. Not sire there is a civil action related.
Absolutely not true.
I hope Coffeezilla gets a court order that allows him to teabag Logan for 30 seconds after he wins
Who would want to teabag Logan? That sounds unpleasant for both parties.
I love how at 3:59 Logan ONLY talks about ONE of the dozens of victims Coffeezilla interviewed and he SPECIFICALLY only targets the ONE GUY who had dirt on him. He's saying this as if everyone else that lost money on this project doesn't exist because of that one guy. "Oh, you're arresting me for robbing a bank? But I can't be arrested because look, one of the tellers I robbed had a history of shoplifting!"
I'm no lawyer but and I'm not 100% sure on laws regarding phone calls from two people in separate states but in Texas where coffeezilla lives it's a one-party state meaning one party only needs to consent to record a phone call.
Logan must have the worst lawyers in the world. Any lawyer worth his salt would have told him to stop shooting his mouth off and trying to lie his way out of trouble. What a stupid man.
This is true. In my opinion (I am completely uninformed) the federal law, being whatever it is, will/would rule over the “One Party” law.
Not only that but Coffee asked for comment which is basically prompting the fact that he is gathering information and probably recording. What also doesn't help is that the clip he uses as an example wasn't even from Coffee? It was from the other investigator who was looking into Eddie. If you are an investigator and openly calling I'm assuming Jeff was given the know of it being recorded and possibly being posted as findings?? Like either way their screwed.
@@CruseCloudLuckily for Coffee, they might allow it because he specifically said he was investigating the allegations which means Jeff didn’t really have a reason to believe the phone call would be private, especially since they know who Coffee is and what he does.
I am a lawyer. Texas is a one party consent state. No laws were broken.
As far as I'm aware, Texas is a single party consent state for recording conversations. On one person involved in a conversation needs to consent for it to be recorded, in this case coffee.
That seems to be a really shit angle to sue him for, unless they can somehow sue him in a different state.
If you could sue someone in one state for committing a crime in another state then thats fucken wild. Whats the point of having different laws based on state if you can sue them from across the country? America is wild
@@Don-KeedikCrimes can cross borders. If you record someone who is located in a two party consent state over the phone while you are located in a one party state, both state laws apply.
@@electrified0 haha no they don't. the state where the recording happened is the one that applies.
@electrified0 nah that doesn't sound right, I'm not from America but if it worked that way then there would be alot more cross state issues, like they would have to compromise
@@electrified0except it doesn’t and it’s pretty wild to think that. You can’t be subject to a law of a different state or country for the duration of a telephone call if you live in a two party state and call someone in a single party state the law doesn’t change so that both people are now sharing the same local law since what law would then take precedence. The state and local laws apply where you make/receive a call if a person making a call lives in a two party consent state records a call with a person in a single party state without receiving the consent of the other person they BROKE the law it’s irrelevant where the other party is situated and what their laws are. If you live in a single party consent state you can’t BREAK the law by recording a call it’s irrelevant where the other side of the call is situated.
The law is relatively simple at its core. You either break the law or you don’t and you can’t be arrested for breaking the law in another jurisdiction if you haven’t broke the law in your own jurisdiction.
It’s the same for a new law you can’t be arrested and charged for breaking a law that didn’t exist unless the law specifically states it’s also retroactively applied and even then it usually has a cutoff date.
Logan Paul doesn't know you should run a simple background check on someone before hiring them. Really?
I believe Logan was hired by the 3 scammers, not the other way around.
Probably was paid up front to be the lead influencer.
then he lied multiple times when he said it was his idea and he hired a team for the project.
@@silvsevie
So, Logan would immediately be in contempt, before he even gets a first step into the court room.
Coffezilla has insurance to cover his legal fee, so I don't think he's a bit worried. And Logan still has to come up with details of the money people lost to a penny, the man has a history & I doubt he didn't make money from it. Btw he jumped to a new project right after cryptozoo went bust, if that's not shady what is!!!
His intention, I'd imagine is to SLAPP Coffeezilla.
But that won't really work out right? Between insurance, Coffee's own legal funds. And crowdfunding.
This can go on as long as it takes and the cost will be more than monetary for Logan. It'll be business reputation.
People. Even unscrupulous business ghouls, don't wanna work with people they know will throw their peers under the bus.
Would be awesome if Logan incriminated himself detailing his financial exploits trying to prove Coffee has no standing. 🤣
@@Palemagpie Coffee's insurance claim was denied.
He's launched a merch drop to source legal funding. Coffee is insuring that everyone who supports him will get something for it, that's honestly admirable of him.
Sucks, but basically Coffee's insurer scammed him.
@@scottgodkins2017 That's the funniest part of Logan's attempt to SLAPP suit Coffee.
Discovery from their case can and will be used as evidence against him in the class action suit.
It's the fattest L for Logan, honestly cannot wait to see Logan eat it.
Logan Paul is gonna get deposed and have to admit to ALOT MORE than just Cryptozoo!
We couldn't get so lucky man
Unfortunately rich people magically dodge most situations where they should absolutely be held accountable
I cant w8 for the day that scum wont be on the internet anymore, and how much fanboys and kids does like him, that after all this he still has that support from his fans, delusional from community, abuser lvl from Logan
After reading your comment, I rewatched parts of the video and see that he seems more scared than indignant.
Yeah if his lawsuit isn’t dismissed via anti-SLAPP and it isnt settled, idk how he could avoid discovery and depositions. Such a strange decision because while coffee was basically done with Logan., this puts the real possibility out there for him finding shit that makes the crypto zoo allegations seem tame, especially given that the lawsuit itself references dink doink, bringing even that into the scope for discovery
7 minutes of "I don't like being exposed, so now I'll sue Coffeezilla in hopes that he'll stop."
“Sure MY project scammed MY fans but it wasn’t ME”
this is like 6months old.
exactly, what gives? idk if there was a new development or channels like this are recycling older content.
This might not be his channel it’s called moisty archive up until 2-6 months ago it was apparently a non English Minecraft channel
@@ThatGuy-nc8nf logan paul did actually file a lawsuit recently
a lawsuit has only just now been filed so you are wrong.
@@ThatGuy-nc8nf Logan filled a lawsuit, so the owner of this channel is fishing money with old recycled content. It's so weird not many call him out on this dumb shit.
LegalBytes made also a video on this subject. I highly suggest to watch these too as she gives a view as a lawyer on this.
Oo thank you. Will look at that
Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Did you read the group chats?
Texas is a one party consent state for audio recording. There is nothing illegal in Coffeezilla recording or posting a recorded phone conversation.
The phone call recording is shakey if coffee lives in a state that has single party consent.
Coffee is in Texas, a single party state.
Federal law is single party.
The suit is in Texas Federal court, not California, so Coffee is completely fine.
Its really crazy that WWE is still working with him and paying him to put him name out there!
11:30 this video is "aimed" at Coffeezilla but it's not actually for him, it's for his fans and viewers and the folks who won't see Coffee's video. They will take Logan at his word and vouch for him like loyal little soldiers. I've seen his fan base, a *huge* amount is young girls/women and young boys/men. Like all Gen Z, Gen Alpha, and even some millenials and gen xr's! This video is a narcissistic defense that f*cking worked for him...
Logan Paul commending Coffeezilla for his work being impartial will never fail to be hilarious, because Coffeezilla exposed Logan's brother Jake Paul as a scammer even before he turned his sights on Logan.
I'm sorry, but I want to see coffee as roided as Paul and a title length bout. Coffee has all the motivation he needs to kill Paul in the ring.
Sorry for what? There's nothing wrong with this desire
The phone call thing is going to depend entirely on what state(s) coffee and the manager were in at the time of the call.
It’s a non issue , that’s not what he’s suing for and the phone call question hasn’t come up since then anyway
He called from Texas a 1 party state for phone call recordings so it is completely legal
I’m no expert, but some states do allow recording without consent of both parties. Not sure if that applies to that phone call or not. Would be interesting to hear from someone more informed on this specific fact.
U can record personal conversations that you urself are present for. Otherwise audio isnt allowed like Eavesdropping.
States like New York is a one way consent state so you don’t need both parties to consent. I’m not sure about Texas
@@kelseylyne Did a quick google search. Texas is a One-Way Consent State. So Coffeezilla did not do anything wrong in regards to recording his calls.
It gets weird if it's 2 different states, I THINK if it was Logan who recorded without permission he would get in more trouble but because Coffee is in Texas he never needed permission for the recording
@@Arcademan09 it matter where the recorder is not the other persons state, coffee is in texas so hes welcome to record without telling
Now that Vince McMahon is gone, Logan might just be the most despicable crook in the WWE
38 of the 50 dont require consent from the other party
There's uhhh.... Your..... Missing a couple of states there
You're so right.. and you weren't bias because you put out points were coffee couldn't help with any legal investigations with real legal evidence..and other points out there you have... Thanks Charlie for being entertaining even while I'm very sick... Helps me with pain I'm going through now.
It depends on what state it was recorded in if it's illegal or not, there are plenty of one party states where only one of the parties has to consent to the recording.
Just seems like he got people to pass the blame on. And the blame didn’t pass as well as he’d thought 😂😂 the confidence Logan accusing coffee for using a criminals stand point is wild. You had to hire him my guy. You knew.
Legal recording depends on the state in the US you record from. In California it is illegal to record without permission. But in Texas there is 'one person permission' As long as Coffee is in Texas, and he is, and he is ok with recording himself, then there is no issue. Courts even in California look at where the call originated as the laws and regulations to uphold, as long as Coffee called someone in California from Texas, it doesn't matter if the recording is illegal in California. He is in Texas, the key issue here would be did Coffee receive or send the call? but even then courts tend to ignore if you call someone from another state on the side of, well it's somebody else's problem.
Logan Scams on CZ: "I'll make damn sure it does come"
Everyone in 2024: "Okay, so where is it" 😂🤮
Also, wasn't jeff informed that the NFL guy couldn't be found @ NFL references by reporter before the "launch"?'
Watching at 32:21 on a clip channel is hilarious
No literally surprised they ain’t cut that out or sum 😭
Lmao
Coffeyzilla can counter sue Logan for his slanderous post
The best part about this lawsuit is Coffee can bring up all his scams he ran over the years. Just to show he has long and storied history of committing crimes.
I wonder how Ludwig and Charlie felt with logan in the Mr beast video.
“Defending myself with facts😭
18:09 The usage of the phone conversation depends on the state. In a lot of states they have dual consent meaning both people have to agree to have the call recorded, but some states aren’t dual consent. So that evidence would just depends on what states they were currently in when the call was recorded.
Man, my younger brother used to talk like this (9:27) when he'd pull a 'gotcha' when he was 15...
This is the appropriate way to run a fan account, good job Moisty Archive. By the way, how old is this clip? If it's recent I'm kinda surprised that it took Charlie this long to cover these videos and stuff because it's kinda old.
Logan '7 seconds' Paul
Most states only require 1 party to content to a recorded phone call. So it would depend on the state
53:34 I missed this the first time I saw it but I like the "I was making personal growth but you fucked it up" sentiment with this statement
He won't say anything if he claims legal is making a case.
The thing about the phone call, it's legal in texas. Texas law state that you can record any voice call you are part of without needing the consent of the other parties so the fact that coffeezilla is in texas do matter.
4:54 he said “almost all” clearly intending to not include his own work….
This is like watching Ted Bundy defend himself in court all over again.
What until the internet has Logan Paul Unsubscribe Sundays!
The thing about the hatching is not the real problem, but there was a "passive earnings" part that was core of the business.
Also, Coffee doesn't PLAY the part, but he always begins the talk with the "i'm recording" bit. Logan was not the first one to try to wag this at him.
Lastly, the victim being a scammer also was irrelevant to the bit. He was not under scrutiny, why the hell would that be relevant? If he was stabbed by a robber, would the robber be able to use it in his defense? That's just a strawman fallacy bit
his lawyer talking
and biggest funny thing is that "hes trying to become better man"
the only thing he become is he hired a morally bankrupt lawyers
"Are you gonna speedrun disproving everything"
*lies 7 seconds into the video*
Logan is scratching at the mirror like a dog thinking his reflection is someone else 😂
Jeff is the fall guy. He is kept around to shift the blame for his actions and in return, he gets paid.
were gonna get GTA6 before CryptoZoo 😂😂
The recording will depend on state and Coffee lives in Texas which is a 1 party consent state.
This is completely a conspiracy theory but is there any way to prove that he didn’t see any of the profits when the other guys sold and he held on to his to save face?
Bro I’m only 2 minutes in and as soon as Logan mentions that the guy was in jail I immediately said out loud “then why’d you hire him you idiot”. Because there’s no way Logan didn’t know that this guy was in jail AND STILL HIRED HIM.
3:11 yeah what that made him look so much worse😂😂
I saw this year's ago. I may have time traveled unknowingly
He's right about the police: the police need to be with the helping party, so they can have precedence over evidence and stuff like that. An unknown party collecting evidence is counterproductive and unusable in a lot of cases.
Logan Paul: "This guy let his own kid invest in crypto."
Also Logan, while advertising CryptoZoo: "We're bringing the blockchain to kids."
I mean honestly I don’t get Logan being the main person getting attacked. We all know that he isn’t the person in the background. He’s the face. Same as prime. Him and Ksi “own the company” even though it’s owned by someone else
Some states use one-party concent laws. Some use two-party. It varies from state to state, so you'll have to check for your state. The gray area is the other party and what state they are in. If you are in a one party state and the other is in a two party state it gets iffy.
Guitar hero Jesus should had also included the apology video from Logan
I don’t think it’s illegal to record a conversation with someone in the state of Texas. If I remember correctly, it is inadmissible in court without the permission from the other person to record the conversation in the state of Texas.
Holy god the second hand embarrassment of all the Paul d riders coping is incredible
Does he not realize that he verified incorrect information, showed twisted facts, and give defenses that doesn't mean anything?
Spoilers from the future:
Paul has sued for deformation
My brain hurts listening to the Pauls.
Its not illegal. Texas is a one party consent state.
Isnt he just going to jail for the group controlling the price? That conversation about nobody sell well get the price, nobody sell.
I thought that one was actually illegal
When youre doing as many projects as Logan Paul, you rely on your team to make the right decisions and keep your best interest at heart.
The mans a WWE superstar, co-founder of one of the largest beverage companies in the world, podcast host/youtuber, and a newly engaged soon-to-be father. Each of which would be a full time job for most of us.
With that being said, to blame him, solely, for “the hiring of scammers” is ridiculous. That would be like blaming Elon Musk for a faulty door on a Tesla or Jeff Bezos for a late package. Different scenarios, but essentially the same. As a leader, especially someone as busy as they, you can’t micromanage every step or detail of a project. You rely on the people you appoint to find the best people for the job. Sometimes they fuck up. But that doesn’t mean a few bad actors are representative of who they are as individuals. A leader creates a vision and brings it to life.
In Logan’s case, manager Jeff probably should have vetted the developers more thoroughly. But, crypto and NFTs are a fairly new space, and developing a game using blockchain technology is a new venture even for Logan.
Yappers will say, “but he has a responsibility and he put his name behind this project blah blah blah.” To be honest, everyone should be accountable for their own decisions. No one was forced to buy cryptozoo. And bad investments happen all the time, it’s a part of life. The reason people bought into cryptozoo was because the idea is genuinely good and creative (Even Logan Paul couldn’t market a bag of shit).
But the most baffling thing is all the hate for a guy who 1) has made no money off this project, 2) has put up i think $1million+ for buybacks, and 3) has not even abandoned the project.
Even if Logan doesn’t release the game, I still think he’s done more than enough in taking accountability.
I dont usually leave comments on anything. But, following Logan over the years, has made me see that he’s an actual genuine person, he’s practiclly a victim himself. Other than this, he’s always followed through on his promises to his community and provided the most creative content and intriguing stories IMO.
People will say im d*ck sucking, but im genuinely tired of all the hate online when nobody would act or say anything they post in real life.
Paul keeps Jeff around probably because he has further dirt on him.
Is this the same guy that wanted to fight Tyson but bitched out after getting rocked in a sparing match?
this is from like 1 year ago i thought it was something new
NFTs are not pictures. They are the access to view what's on the other end - in other words, an NFT is a URL!
The recording is illegal in California where logan and his manager are, so texas laws don't matter, the jurisdiction is where the people on the recording are
Note - if you want to reach Logan, don't go through his manager Jeff. You need to contact Logan personally. His manager is a manager because needs manager, but if you talk to Jeff, nothing is passed onward.
40:30 They can use from Coffee's investigation... ONLY IF it can be collaborated with a proper investigation then they might submitted akin to an expert testimony.
Here, I thought Iron Man Mike was going to fix Logan for us.
Just because the art was from a stock site doesn't mean it isn't handmade. As a photographer selling stock photos, all those photos are made by me.
What’s funny is he literally could pay everyone back and still be rich as hell. 😂
Also with Prime.....he couldve covered everyones losses and pumped his own money in to salvage the project
the "kids" that are fans are people who are now in college who were in middle school when the Japan controversy happened.
Coffeezilla does better covering stories and does more in depth investigation than almost any news media these days. I respect him so much for this. He states his opinion but seperates it from fact so its not mixed. Ive never questioned coffeezilla in any video he does. Not only that he doesnt just throw videos out for money and clicks.
Coffeezilla is the Hero weve waited for all these years! 😂
lol i fought a life sentence and am probably the most honest
I didn't know caring about your fans meant selling them scams and poisoning them with overcaffeinated and PFA-ridden beverages.
We going back watching all the Logan Paul videos after the “your prime is so yummy sir” moment last week?
Neither side should talk to each other since lawsuit was threated. it would be really dumb
Logan going to pay more money fighting coffeezilla then paying his victims, what a clown.