It’s absolutely absurd to say he isn’t a first ballot lock It’s also equally absurd to say that he still has a place in this league if he retains this entitled mindset
I never liked Westbrook as a player and his teammates helped him get those triple doubles. I seen his big man’s go up the court and let him get a lot of those rebounds. And his turnovers always been high and shooting percentage has been average at best. 20 shots for 20 points type of stats. Dude does play hard tho maybe too hard🤷🏽♂️, so… my answer would be yes but no if that makes any since. *(Manufacturing stats)*
An underrated part of the Russ debate was how his teammate were ACTIVELY helping him achieve his yearly triple doubles. Russ truly believes that his stats were all him and that’s the part I find saddest. No wonder he got exposed in LA for what his play style truly is
They let him do whatever he wanted. Including just going for stats and stealing boards from the bigs. Triple doubles are overrated, it's about winning and everyone playing their roles. Bigs get rebounds, post up, and guards assist and playmake. Look at Curry, Isaiah, others from the past, they're better and don't ge triple doubles.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !! WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH. CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT. WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ?? RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ??? U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
One thing that doesn’t get talked about enough was how even though Russ was an offensive liability, he was an even bigger defensive liability. I do wish Russ well, but like Skip said, I can’t imagine any team wanting to deal with his mess.
@ Rob Da 5 8 exactly and they failed to mention that part. If Westbrook doesn’t have the ball in his hands he is useless. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such horrid off ball defense. His shooting splits are also atrocious.
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !! WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH. CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT. WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ?? RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ??? U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
The only reason Russ got those triple doubles is primarily because he only passed the ball in late clock situations where his teammates had to shoot the ball which over the course of his 33 or so minutes per game would easily equate to 10 assists and his teammates were actively allowing him to get rebounds they could have easily gotten themselves, especially when he lined up at the forward position on free throws. How many times did Steven Adams box out but not jump? He was chasing these stats, winning and team chemistry be damned. Here's hoping that the HOF voters have enough sense to not let this guy in, at least not as a "slam dunk first ballot". More deserving guys have had to wait longer.
That's literally just Steven Adam's playstyle, he always goes for screens instead of individual rebounds. Adams did the same thing when he was on the pelicans and now grizzlies. The fact that Russ averages 8-11 rebounds no matter what center he plays with should tell you he's actually just an incredible rebounder. He's a great passer too, if you look closer, his assist:turnover ratio is usually higher than Steph Curry's. Yes he holds onto the ball too long sometimes but the "late clock situations" you speak of is just him getting the ball to the most open shooter on the floor and being like, "if I pass you the ball, shoot it." Prime Russ was a solid facilitator. Russ has his flaws but to say he's not a 1st ballot HOFer is ridiculous. We're talking about THE most athletic PG of all time. He is also one of the greatest floor-raisers ever. He gets deserved criticism because he's an awful ceiling-raiser. If you want to carry a bad team to the playoffs, he's your guy. Just surround him with 4 solid shooters and you have yourself an 8th seed. If you want to turn a playoff team into a championship team, he's absolutely not the guy.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !! WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH. CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT. WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ?? RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ??? U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@archiveplug1819 Either you are a hater or you don't know anything about basketball. Lets talk about Gilbert Arenas, how many mvps does Arenas have? How many times did Arenas make all nba? How many scoring titles does Arenas have? How many times did Arenas lead the league in assist? When you look at Gilbert Arenas resume and compare it to Russell Westbrooks resume the comparison is absolutely laughable. Like I said you are either a hater or a basketball novice, one or the other..
@@AllLovingKindness But Damian Lillard is top 75? Again, how many scoring titles does Damian Lillard have? How many times has Damian Lillard lead the league in assist? How many all nba selections does Lillard have? How many mvps does Lillard have? Westbrook has a better resume than a bunch of guys on the top 75 list, if you take Westbrook off then you need to take a bunch of them off..
@@Jdcjr1991 it’s hard to do but the point is it doesn’t equate to winning basketball. Efficiency is far more important and Russ is one of the most inefficient players of all time. Probably THE most inefficient player with his volume of shooting and handling the ball
@@tylerasweet bro stop saying it doesn’t equate to winning basketball go watch jxmyhighroller video and educate ur self. Gotta stop listen to ppl like skip spreading false narratives ruclips.net/video/zY4oSeaCGgo/видео.html
@@coreylarkx It's sad, some casuals still haven’t learned. They’ll bring up his win-loss record when he gets a triple double in the regular season, not realizing that in the playoffs it’s just 50%, so not much impact on winning there. The casuals also don’t realize that when he shoots league average or better in the playoffs, he wins 70% of the time, so his efficiency or lack thereof is clearly impactful to winning or losing. Unfortunately for him, he’s shot league average or better in less than 1/3 of his playoff games
Russell Westbrook is the epitome of what hard work will get you when you don’t have actual skill. He goes 100 mph, but what is he skilled at? He can’t shoot, barely has handles, has bad iq, does nothing when playing off ball, and is an average defender at best. It’s not all his fault though. He had Scott Brooks and Billy Donovan babying him instead of correcting the flaws in his game and developing him into a player that can do more than out-athletic a defender.
To add to your point: from what I've heard and read about, sitting Russ down and talk film wasn't a great experience for trainers. His ego was too big that he refuses to better himself.
Sadly your right, and at that he really thinks hes a superstar and yea apart of that prolly came from bad coaching or maybe they are good coaches and russ isnt coachable which prolly is the case cus his ego, ive always saw right through westbrook and when the rockets acquired i knew it wouldnt last. When your on 4 different teams in 4 different years thats a problem
@@robesterd8132 🎯 everyone forgets he used to be an elite midrange shooter and above average free throw shooter. Some of the things are true yes, he never grew and become more stubborn over the years. But one has to be fair and skip will not. He was an athletic defender but he was never a smart defender.
I Know More Than You. he was never a elite mid range shooter. go check his % his best mid range years was around league average. he has always been more athleticism and confidence than basketball skill. ur seeing how he looks when he loses athleticism and confidence
His analysis on westBRICK was spot on. I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunate that westbrook hasn't been more self less. Its apparent now that westbrook has played solely for his own stats and doesn't care to be a winner cuz in his own words. "He's already a champion ". Good player. Not great .
Nothing can change WestBrook mind he does not change, he’s a horrible point guard, he refuses to work on his shot, he’s 2nd in Turnovers, out of 65 players that took 500 shots in the paint Russ was 65, Russ should have benched years ago. A horrible player that stunted KD career.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@marlowstanfield6815 I never said he wasn’t a HOF’er. I just said he was definitely NOT in the top 75. He should give the Lakers back about 40 million for the embarrassing trash he served up this year. SMH
@@HK-jz5sz But Damian Lillard is top 75? Again, how many scoring titles does Damian Lillard have? How many times has Damian Lillard lead the league in assist? How many all nba selections does Lillard have? How many mvps does Lillard have? Westbrook has a better resume than a bunch of guys on the top 75 list, if you take Westbrook off then you need to take a bunch of them off. This was the worst year of Westbrooks career but you are judging his WHOLE career based on this year and thats dumb
Russ was not this bad in OKC, even without KD, the Thunder couldn't hang with the big boys, but he was really good. Once he left OKC it was never the same. Okc also made him the center franchise piece while he was there that probably helped.
There was a point while he was on the rockets before covid were the narrative in sports media was “this the best season westbrook ever had”. The covid break made russ this way hes been rusty ever since
@@kkent4174 kevin love was a walking double double with the wolves. Had a couple of 35 and 15+ games. He was balling, thats why Lebron wanted him so badly to join Cleveland.
People often mention his winrate when getting a triple double in the regular season, but did you know that his win rate when getting a triple double in the playoffs is just 50%? So not much value there for his triple doubles correlating to winning in the playoffs. On the other hand, did you know that Russ is 26-12 in the playoffs when shooting 45% FG (league average for the past 20 years) or better? So clearly there's a lot of value in him being efficient in the playoffs, and a lot of detriment to the team when he's not efficient in the playoffs, and we all know which way he usually is, considering he's shot 45% FG or better in the playoffs in only 34% of his playoff games (38 out of 111 games). Just because humans are randomly mesmerized for some reason by something as arbitrary as double digits doesn't mean it holds so much value. just because it’s on the number “10” and not on “9” or “11” doesn’t mean it's so amazing. Let me ask this, is a 10/10/10 game so much more valuable than a 9/9/9 game? So if you're into something as arbitrary as double digits for surface level numbers, then you'll be impressed by Westbrook. If you're more impressed by things that require getting more in depth into the game, whether it's with numbers or with your eyes, then you'll see it's not all that great. For example, what Jokic accomplished this season is actually far more impressive than averaging a triple double.
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !! WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH. CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT. WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ?? RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ??? U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
I always found it insulting for years when Max Kellerman would say Westbrook's game is what Kobe and Iverson would like if they had a baby, especially when those Icons led there teams to the finals.
@@jwst8 he’s going to be wrong about luka that’s going to back fire on him but he would never admit it. He just going to talk about his free throw or something
Saying he doesn’t belong in the hall of fame is a massive stretch but honestly when you listen to his argument and you know basketball. It’s hard to argue with him unless your a Westbrook fan
It’s not a massive stretch. I would put Klay Thompson in before Westbrook. One of the deadliest shooters in history and a great defender (head and shoulders better than Russ on defense)
It sad too. Skip use to say Westbrook was one of his favorite players to watch and that he could sell out tickets by himself. Westbrook deserves the criticism this year but in russ eyes he can do no wrong
I never seen so many empty / misleading triple doubles in my life . Steven Adam let him grab loose defensive rebounds that was give me it wasn’t like russel was grabbing offensive rebounds over people or something . So skip is on point here . And for the assist it was so forced like skip said in so many words.
You know what Mr.Bayless.maybe Westbrook is not a top 75 player or maybe borderline HOF.His biggest mistake is to play every day.You see if you are in street clothes most of the time,you can't be criticized.Westbrook is a flawed player and maybe a stat padder,but he plays and I find it strange that the sports media and people like Bayless rarely go after athletes that are always injured and always in street clothes.That's the biggest problem in the NBA and the fans are paying the price.I make no excuses for Westbrook's play but I see why Barkley is calling it quits after next year.Everytime there is a great matchup schedule,guys are sitting out,that is why he sometimes defends Westbrook.He is old school by suiting up and never cheats the game.
As Shannon says: playing hard and playing smart are not the same things. Nobody questions how much effort Russ gives but its all for nothing if it doesn't contribute to WINNING basketball, which is the opposite of Westbrooks attitude
@@zachwhitlow4 When you speak of Shannon Sharpe,I noticed watching Undisputed,they always show Westbrook"s mistakes,but rarely shows Lebron's turnovers,not playing defense,guys taking rebounds because he's just standing around.This doesn't lead to winning basketball either but everybody blames Westbrook for the Laker's failure.Westbrook did not have a good year and he said that at his exit interview.But the fact remains Westbrook was not the only reason why the Laker's had problems,it was the so-called leaderLebron who refused to play defense,pick and chose what games to play,and quit on his teammates when they did not trade Westbrook.
If Westbrook didn’t shoot and just played like Ronda did in Boston his teams would have went further I think. Imagine Durant taking all the shots and Westbrook only attacking the rim and not jacking up jump shots
never seen someone say someone who averaged 22 points a game for his career wit 8 assists and 1.7 steals and 4 turnovers i’ll give u that he’s decision making isn’t good but if he had shooters wit kevin durant ur telling me that westbrook has no rings ur telling me westbrook who is a 8 time all star isn’t a hall of famer he didn’t have a good year at all he needs to reshape his game but not a hall of famer is absolutely wrong and disrespectful
Russ just gotta change his game in this 3rd chapter of his career,I remember him at UCLA and those first few years in OKC,he's come along way! #TheGrind
I remember during the 2012 Finals, I saw how Russ plays... Then I noticed something: "this guy doesn't want to be Robin. He steals the spotlight from Kevin Durant. This looks bad." So ye, he's just an athletic guard... Not really a "Point" Guard...
My prediction is that Westbrook will have a much improved season next season as a "smarter" player. The criticism and scrutiny this season thoroughly shook him and played a part in his actual retrogression as the season progressed. He was better in the first half of the season than in the last half of it. He will be defiant. While he might not admit publicly to his flaws, he knows that much or most of the criticism is true, and he will work well on significantly reducing his flaws and being a better team player.
He should've been doing this for his entire career. The problem is people were so focused on the flashiness and stats, they forgot he wasn't winning or making the team better. All he has are empty/meaningless stats because no one criticized him when he never won anything. Now everyone is seeing him for what he really is: skill-less. I've been trying to tell people "he will never win a ring with the way he plays."
As a Rockets fan I thought he was overrated when he won mvp because I thought harden deserved it over him because harden averaged 1 point less than Russ basically the same amount of assists and 8 rebounds instead of 10 and was a 3 seed instead of 6 with no all stars for both. Then he came to the rockets and was horrible in the bubble and that team had a chance to do something and Westbrick showed up and actually helped the lakers win a championship. I put up with him for one year and I wanted him gone and I wished cp3 never got hurt and him and harden got along at the end I wanted cp3 back. And Westbrick has done nothing since
I'm a rockets fan and not a fan of him but we have forgotten how easy it is to get into the basketball hall of fame compared to other sports. The triple double was an untouchable records before he did it multiple times. No disrespect but Ben Wallace made it last year
@@crashcrew6Ben Wallace deserved to be in the HOF even before last year. He’s one of the most successful defenders of all time and by far the greatest undrafted player ever. He won a Championship with the 04 Pistons as the defensive anchor and effectively defended Shaq and almost won a ring against Tim Duncan and the Spurs in 2005. All of this at 6’7-6’8 and pure work ethic. You’re a casual or a young fan. You didn’t see those great Pistons teams. Btw, he has the most DPOTY awards, tied with Mutumbo.
@@officialconch yes I understand that and no I was in college when they beat the lakers and nobody thought they would. I'm not saying Ben wasn't a great player and he was defensive mvp. But russ was the mvp so that doesn't count for anything. He actually made the triple double not count for anything anymore because he has so many. I'm not saying he is the best or anything like that
I am convinced that this is Skips message to Russ letting him know: "You called me out and I called you out and now that the season is over, I won and you lost". Enjoy your victory lap Skip lol.
@@Vito_Caligiuri he does have an MVP and multiple all NBA appearances. Say what you want about Westbrook but no one can deny he was a top 3 player in the league for a few years
@@mudathirumar9902 they are definitely better players T Mac and Vince at they peak especially T Mac are way better do you know anything about basketball Russ never had a better year than T Mac ‘02 season alone
I wanna say I’m probably the only guy on RUclips that said in real time the Westbrook situation would in no way work out. I got a lot of flack not now I look like Nostradamus. Good content skip, on point 100%
The argument of people not wanting to play with Westbrook is so stupid bro. None of the players that he mentioned won a ring. KD has 2 rings with a 73-9 team.. nothing after that. Harden and PG don’t have anything. They haven’t play a final or anything without Westbrook, so I really want to ask, what is the point of bringing this guys in the conversation?
Hot take, but Russ hasn’t seen much, if any regression. His efficiency/turnover rate were about his career averages this season. He simply had a lower usage rate. He’s never been a good 3pt%, defender, and always turned the ball over. What’s changed?
A bigger market where we actually got to watch him EVERY NIGHT. Not the 4-6 national televised games for where he’d blow our socks off. How he’s regressed as a shooter, decision maker and finisher is outstanding. Bron the primary ball handler but Russ still led team in turnovers. It’s just wild
Say what you will about Westbrook the fact is that if GM for the OKC Thunder Sam Presti hadn't made the stupidest trade in the history of the NBA getting rid of Harden he would have won multiple championships. That team was the most talented in the history of basketball. No team has EVER had 3 MVP level players on it and they also had Ibaka who was great in his own right. The Warriors would have never happened because they would have gotten run over by OKC. I still can't believe Presti did that. It's inexplicable.
@@jwst8 Those guys did NOT want to break up. They were absolutely shocked. They had already been to one finals which they would have won had Scott Brooks not foolishly continued to start the worthless Kendrick Perkins. They would have been back probably 5-6 times with those 3 and won multiple championships eventually. You're wrong and you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@joeldriver3971 nothing is guaranteed. You have no idea if they would win or not. I don't think they would win because the problem started with Westbrook taking more shots then Durant. Now add Harden to that mix and that would have been a disaster. Harden is known to play bad in the post season. Westbrook is a turnover machine. That entire offense would rely on Durant shooting so good that it would make up for the mistakes of their poor shooting. Also neither Harden or Westbrook plays defense. They be a good team, but they still end up losing to the warriors, Spurs or Cavs.
It's crazy, but this actually makes sense. Broussard once said that Westbrook was more successful in the playoffs then I think Nash. However, he's wrong, he only made it past the first round when he was with Durant or Harden. As the lead guy on some high seeded good teams he can't get out of the first round. What he does doesn't help teams win. If Alex English, Dantley, and others aren't top 75, then how is Russ? It's not about stats but about helping your team.
He is more successful than Nash int he playoffs. Lmao dude what r u talking about?? He had absolute scrubs in OkC when he was dragging them to the playoffs by himself. He’s literally been to 4 Confrence finals and a finals. KD hasn’t been out of the 2nd round without Steph or Russ either.
The production value is a bit underwhelming. His voice doesn't sound like it's mic'd correctly, and I think they're going for the wrong background and aesthetic for skip.
colin cowherd was saying this for years and i always agreed with him.. skip and leshannon were always saying "russ is ferocious, he's playing hard, bla bla".. but I'm glad they've finally seen the truth, lol
I'm sure Westbrook is a good guy. And I'm sure he is a good player. His play style does not help the team win though. I mean it technically could if he was a more efficient shooter and a better passer. But what good is ten assists when you have 6 turnovers? What good is 30pts when you have 20+ shots? What good is ten rebounds when you are leaving the guy open that you're guarding allowing him to get easy shots?
Dude would steal rebounds from his own big men. Also when there was a missed shot, the seas would part so he can get a cheap rebound. On the other hand, his athleticism, energy, and effort levels were legendary though. Hall of Fame sure, but not a slam dunk
Look at the bubble. When the Lakers played the Rockets, their game plan was literally to let Westbrook shoot. They left him open every possession. For the life of me, I can’t fathom why LeBron and AD would okay this trade in the first place. I also can’t fathom why Pelinka would even consider it either! It’s insanity.
SKIP BAYLESS CAN LOWKEY BRING OUT THE BEST IN ATHLETES BC HE KEEPS THEM IN CHECK. Yes he has some of the dumbest takes but that's just him trying not to jump on the bandwagons. Skip was right about his takes on Pacquiao, Bron being afraid of the free throw line, and Jordan being the GOAT of NBA.
Russ should just spend this time learning the game over and practicing shots. It's really all he can do to improve and he can. Others that did this have improved.
@@VictorRodriguez-qn1kz Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Bam-Dragic injured. He has not earned a single championship. Gets bailed out every time. Jumps ship every chance he gets. He truly is toxic for the locker room.
@@actormertsirin they don't win those rings without Bron my G and that's a fact. And jump ship ? Last time I checked he has never requested a trade so he's got every right to exercise his Free Agent right.
c'mon Skip, I'm a salty lakers fan but Russ definitely belongs in the HOF. He's past his prime now but prime Russ was scary. He was basically a small Giannis in transition.
Russell Westbrook has for the last 6 or 7 years been playing a different game than everybody else - just happens to be on the same court. Everyone else is playing a game where a win happens when the points your team accumulates is greater than your opponent’s points. He plays a game where he wins if he gets double digit stats in three categories. Team win/loss didn’t matter. Play-off success didn’t matter. He even said - championships don’t matter. He’s pursued the ultimate side quest and mastered it while ignoring the overall objective of the game. It’s the one thing he can do better than any others, and because other ballers can’t do it, they find it impressive and also think he’s great for it. But that’s all it is, is a very hard side quest. 🤷🏻♂️
So please explain skip why does he win 75% of the games he had a triple double. If that doesn't help to win shouldn't it be below 50% IN WINS Stop hating man. There is no point guard besides Curry and CP3 that deserves more to go into the HoF than Westbrook. Personally I think that Russ would've easily won a chip with klay, draymong and KD but that's just me. The disrespect needs to stop.
Russ is a sure fire/slam dunk Hall of Famer….if he doesn’t get picked up then shame on the league. You’re a clown Skippy. Nobody plays harder than Russ and that alone will make me his fan for life.
Skip has a lot of guts going this hard at Westbrook - knowing he might run into him in L.A. He has basically nothing good to say about him and we all know that everyone has good elements to them. At this point I feel bad for Westbrook
Melo is 8 in scoring, I think, but other than that he doesn't have much. He was never 1st team all nba, like Russ he didn't help his teams, and wasn't much of an all around player. That's why guys like Stephen A called him a superstar scorer. Lol, it's kind of a backhanded compliment.
just like the manufacture of boy bands, the "legacy" of Russell Westbrook is also manufactured...just as other commenters have stated, his teammates actively helped in allowing Westbrook to get rebounds, his ability to drive and dish would naturally provide assists and layups should provide points despite poor shooting...so the media manufactured Westbrook into an MVP...and now, this player will going to the HOF...shameful.
Its westbrick now but when KD left the thunder everyone was riding Westbrook tip, because no one liked the way KD left Russ for the warriors so fans were all Fake mad and emotional now you look back at it now everyone changed their tune
It’s sad how when u hustle it’s stat padding so if that’s the case wat bout giannis?? Oh it’s cuz giannis not a rebel like Russ…. u notice how they only attack the outspoken athletes n now some people sayin draymon overrated???
The smartest thing Westbrook could do is become a Rondo/ Rodman hybrid and not look to score anymore=just rebounds and assists and take 4 shots a game...breakaway dunks only...If he did he would become the most beloved figure in the wnba...But he won't.
@@brentw0681 No offense to anyone but Rhondo and Rodman are two of the smartest players to ever play in the nba. Russ couldn't be either one even if he tried. Skip Bayless may have some odd takes sometimes but he's right. Westbrook has the worst hands of any point guard he's ever seen. So if u wanna pad stats and not win then Russ is ok. But if u wanna win he doesn't have the basketball iq or intangibles.
Is Russell Westbrook a Hall of Famer? sprtspod.fox/Ep14
It’s absolutely absurd to say he isn’t a first ballot lock
It’s also equally absurd to say that he still has a place in this league if he retains this entitled mindset
He has the worst dimes of all time its all dump off passes at the last second to bail him out skips right
Russell Westbrick is a Hall of Famer Mr. Skip Brainless.. Thats a guarantee..
I never liked Westbrook as a player and his teammates helped him get those triple doubles. I seen his big man’s go up the court and let him get a lot of those rebounds. And his turnovers always been high and shooting percentage has been average at best. 20 shots for 20 points type of stats. Dude does play hard tho maybe too hard🤷🏽♂️, so… my answer would be yes but no if that makes any since. *(Manufacturing stats)*
@@JaimeMartinez-ge4gu if it was so east why didn’t everyone average 10 plus assists
An underrated part of the Russ debate was how his teammate were ACTIVELY helping him achieve his yearly triple doubles. Russ truly believes that his stats were all him and that’s the part I find saddest. No wonder he got exposed in LA for what his play style truly is
He’s never said that
@@LanceG007 It's obvious bruh.
They let him do whatever he wanted. Including just going for stats and stealing boards from the bigs. Triple doubles are overrated, it's about winning and everyone playing their roles. Bigs get rebounds, post up, and guards assist and playmake. Look at Curry, Isaiah, others from the past, they're better and don't ge triple doubles.
@@LanceG007 adams was letting him get rebounds all day in his okc days.
Its true the bigs were letting him steal rebounds. Its a reason its near impossible for a guard to average double digit rebounds.
Skip is in rare form today. On point, comical, insightful, absolutely correct.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@marlowstanfield6815 still an overrated ball hog who is more interested with scoring over winning
@@marlowstanfield6815 cry😂
@@marlowstanfield6815 he lost all his athleticism he washed
@@marlowstanfield6815 stop the bs. He's not a player for a big stage. He shld go to the magic or wizards
I have to admit skip was on point about this.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@marlowstanfield6815 ok
Skip was not on point dummy
@@bizimanabienvenu3659 lol
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !!
WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH.
CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT.
WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ??
RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ???
U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
One thing that doesn’t get talked about enough was how even though Russ was an offensive liability, he was an even bigger defensive liability. I do wish Russ well, but like Skip said, I can’t imagine any team wanting to deal with his mess.
They said "he never cheats the game, gives 100% every game" only with the ball in his hand
@ Rob Da 5 8 exactly and they failed to mention that part. If Westbrook doesn’t have the ball in his hands he is useless. I don’t think I’ve ever seen such horrid off ball defense. His shooting splits are also atrocious.
Perhaps Sacramento can low price him and get him after.
His one of the best defensive point guards behind jru holiday
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !!
WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH.
CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT.
WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ??
RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ???
U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
The only reason Russ got those triple doubles is primarily because he only passed the ball in late clock situations where his teammates had to shoot the ball which over the course of his 33 or so minutes per game would easily equate to 10 assists and his teammates were actively allowing him to get rebounds they could have easily gotten themselves, especially when he lined up at the forward position on free throws. How many times did Steven Adams box out but not jump? He was chasing these stats, winning and team chemistry be damned. Here's hoping that the HOF voters have enough sense to not let this guy in, at least not as a "slam dunk first ballot". More deserving guys have had to wait longer.
He has the most game winning n tying shots since 2009 so who was he passing too.
@@yungface012 all the people making shots to get him those assists. Use your brain, it's not hard to understand.
@@yungface012 he’s also taken the most and terrible shots in the clutch as well. Westbrook is a bonafide ball hog.
That's literally just Steven Adam's playstyle, he always goes for screens instead of individual rebounds. Adams did the same thing when he was on the pelicans and now grizzlies. The fact that Russ averages 8-11 rebounds no matter what center he plays with should tell you he's actually just an incredible rebounder. He's a great passer too, if you look closer, his assist:turnover ratio is usually higher than Steph Curry's. Yes he holds onto the ball too long sometimes but the "late clock situations" you speak of is just him getting the ball to the most open shooter on the floor and being like, "if I pass you the ball, shoot it." Prime Russ was a solid facilitator.
Russ has his flaws but to say he's not a 1st ballot HOFer is ridiculous. We're talking about THE most athletic PG of all time. He is also one of the greatest floor-raisers ever. He gets deserved criticism because he's an awful ceiling-raiser. If you want to carry a bad team to the playoffs, he's your guy. Just surround him with 4 solid shooters and you have yourself an 8th seed. If you want to turn a playoff team into a championship team, he's absolutely not the guy.
Still got triple doubles smh😂
No lie I agree with skip on russ.
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !!
WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH.
CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT.
WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ??
RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ???
U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
Skipper Bayless is absolutely correct!!!!
this his worst take ever 😂😂😂 a 8x all star not being a HOF😂😂😂😂😂
@@AliFrankTheTank ……..yeah he’s a hall of Famer bruh, but let’s not act like his argument is laughable it’s actually spot on
Westbrook made the NBA 75. He’s 100% going to the Hall of Fame
@@TheKingofKings2272 any 8x all star having a 19 minute vid lm why he isn’t a HOFer is very laughable. yall snorting
He is a hall of famer but he ain’t top 75 player that’s for sure
The worst part about Westbrook is that is now just acceptable for people to revise his history as a great and clutch player.
He’ll be appreciated again for his prime after he retirees but everyone fed up with him being terrible and blaming everyone/everything else
@@sammycordahi9327 he won 4 playoff games in 3 years.what prime?
@@medamir7322 he was an athletic monster but yea it never resulted in winning
ALL FACTS FROM THE SKIPPER
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@marlowstanfield6815 I’m taking Dwight Howard Tracy McGrady Paul pierce even Gilbert arenas over westbrick
@@archiveplug1819 Either you are a hater or you don't know anything about basketball. Lets talk about Gilbert Arenas, how many mvps does Arenas have? How many times did Arenas make all nba? How many scoring titles does Arenas have? How many times did Arenas lead the league in assist? When you look at Gilbert Arenas resume and compare it to Russell Westbrooks resume the comparison is absolutely laughable. Like I said you are either a hater or a basketball novice, one or the other..
@@marlowstanfield6815 he didnt say that westbrook shouldnt be a hall of famer, he said he shouldnt be top 75, which hes not wrong about
@@AllLovingKindness But Damian Lillard is top 75? Again, how many scoring titles does Damian Lillard have? How many times has Damian Lillard lead the league in assist? How many all nba selections does Lillard have? How many mvps does Lillard have? Westbrook has a better resume than a bunch of guys on the top 75 list, if you take Westbrook off then you need to take a bunch of them off..
I agree with the triple double being overrated. I’ve thought this for years.
If it’s so overrated how is it that everybody’s not getting them. That’s pretty stupid
@@Jdcjr1991 it’s hard to do but the point is it doesn’t equate to winning basketball. Efficiency is far more important and Russ is one of the most inefficient players of all time. Probably THE most inefficient player with his volume of shooting and handling the ball
@@tylerasweet bro stop saying it doesn’t equate to winning basketball go watch jxmyhighroller video and educate ur self. Gotta stop listen to ppl like skip spreading false narratives
ruclips.net/video/zY4oSeaCGgo/видео.html
@@coreylarkx too bad Jimmy didn’t include the playoffs so he could control the narrative for casuals like you
@@coreylarkx It's sad, some casuals still haven’t learned. They’ll bring up his win-loss record when he gets a triple double in the regular season, not realizing that in the playoffs it’s just 50%, so not much impact on winning there. The casuals also don’t realize that when he shoots league average or better in the playoffs, he wins 70% of the time, so his efficiency or lack thereof is clearly impactful to winning or losing. Unfortunately for him, he’s shot league average or better in less than 1/3 of his playoff games
Russell Westbrook is the epitome of what hard work will get you when you don’t have actual skill. He goes 100 mph, but what is he skilled at? He can’t shoot, barely has handles, has bad iq, does nothing when playing off ball, and is an average defender at best.
It’s not all his fault though. He had Scott Brooks and Billy Donovan babying him instead of correcting the flaws in his game and developing him into a player that can do more than out-athletic a defender.
To add to your point: from what I've heard and read about, sitting Russ down and talk film wasn't a great experience for trainers.
His ego was too big that he refuses to better himself.
Sadly your right, and at that he really thinks hes a superstar and yea apart of that prolly came from bad coaching or maybe they are good coaches and russ isnt coachable which prolly is the case cus his ego, ive always saw right through westbrook and when the rockets acquired i knew it wouldnt last. When your on 4 different teams in 4 different years thats a problem
He was one of the best mid range shooters and one of the best passers. He was also a good defender. Ur talking about old Russ
@@robesterd8132 🎯 everyone forgets he used to be an elite midrange shooter and above average free throw shooter.
Some of the things are true yes, he never grew and become more stubborn over the years. But one has to be fair and skip will not. He was an athletic defender but he was never a smart defender.
I Know More Than You. he was never a elite mid range shooter. go check his % his best mid range years was around league average. he has always been more athleticism and confidence than basketball skill. ur seeing how he looks when he loses athleticism and confidence
His analysis on westBRICK was spot on. I agree wholeheartedly. Unfortunate that westbrook hasn't been more self less. Its apparent now that westbrook has played solely for his own stats and doesn't care to be a winner cuz in his own words. "He's already a champion ". Good player. Not great .
You gonna hurt his feelings by being so honest, Westbrick isn't used to that kinda honesty...lol
Nothing can change WestBrook mind he does not change, he’s a horrible point guard, he refuses to work on his shot, he’s 2nd in Turnovers, out of 65 players that took 500 shots in the paint Russ was 65, Russ should have benched years ago. A horrible player that stunted KD career.
He likes honesty when it’s in his favour
Westbrook has 9 all nba selections, 2 scoring titles, lead the league in assist 3x and has an MVP. To say that's not a hallafame career is the most hating bs I ever heard in my life..smh
@@marlowstanfield6815 I never said he wasn’t a HOF’er. I just said he was definitely NOT in the top 75. He should give the Lakers back about 40 million for the embarrassing trash he served up this year. SMH
@@HK-jz5sz But Damian Lillard is top 75? Again, how many scoring titles does Damian Lillard have? How many times has Damian Lillard lead the league in assist? How many all nba selections does Lillard have? How many mvps does Lillard have? Westbrook has a better resume than a bunch of guys on the top 75 list, if you take Westbrook off then you need to take a bunch of them off. This was the worst year of Westbrooks career but you are judging his WHOLE career based on this year and thats dumb
Russ was not this bad in OKC, even without KD, the Thunder couldn't hang with the big boys, but he was really good.
Once he left OKC it was never the same.
Okc also made him the center franchise piece while he was there that probably helped.
There was a point while he was on the rockets before covid were the narrative in sports media was “this the best season westbrook ever had”. The covid break made russ this way hes been rusty ever since
@@JustTweakin the sign of a pseudo superstar
The basketball hall is the easiest to get into. Westbrook is easily going in. Kevin love will probably go in for
Gods sake.
Kevin love especially t wolves was unguessable you acting like he’s just been an average player. Even changed his entire game and won a ring so chill
Russ is getting in because he deserves to not because it’s easy lmao. Dude was consistently a top 3 pg for a decade.
@@kkent4174 lol
@@LoftyXsWaGX34 I agree, I’m saying that’s why skips point is crazy.
@@kkent4174 kevin love was a walking double double with the wolves. Had a couple of 35 and 15+ games. He was balling, thats why Lebron wanted him so badly to join Cleveland.
People often mention his winrate when getting a triple double in the regular season, but did you know that his win rate when getting a triple double in the playoffs is just 50%? So not much value there for his triple doubles correlating to winning in the playoffs. On the other hand, did you know that Russ is 26-12 in the playoffs when shooting 45% FG (league average for the past 20 years) or better? So clearly there's a lot of value in him being efficient in the playoffs, and a lot of detriment to the team when he's not efficient in the playoffs, and we all know which way he usually is, considering he's shot 45% FG or better in the playoffs in only 34% of his playoff games (38 out of 111 games).
Just because humans are randomly mesmerized for some reason by something as arbitrary as double digits doesn't mean it holds so much value. just because it’s on the number “10” and not on “9” or “11” doesn’t mean it's so amazing. Let me ask this, is a 10/10/10 game so much more valuable than a 9/9/9 game? So if you're into something as arbitrary as double digits for surface level numbers, then you'll be impressed by Westbrook. If you're more impressed by things that require getting more in depth into the game, whether it's with numbers or with your eyes, then you'll see it's not all that great. For example, what Jokic accomplished this season is actually far more impressive than averaging a triple double.
Yeah because they don't consider who he's getting those triple doubles against. There's a reason why it doesn't translate in the playoffs.
At the end of the day if you average 10 assists and 10 rebounds and over 30 points you can ball. That is very hard to do.
@@temple2431 true.
Doncic is considered an MVP candidate off 28-9-9 so double digits is not essential
WHERE IS YOUR DURANT SKIP ??? U LIAR !!
WHERE IS CUP CAKE 31% FG AND 500 TURNOVERS VS MARUCS SMART ?? SHALL WE CALL TONY ALLEN TO BEAT DURANT AGAIN OR JRUE HOLIDAY 6'3 TO HUMILIATE OVERRATED KD MAKES HIM AIR BALL IN CLUTCH.
CAN DURANTR PASS ??? WHY HE CANT SHOOT HE IS 7 FOOT NOT 6'3 ?? WHY HE CANT PROTECT RIM AS AN 7 FOOTER ?? HOW MANY FIRST DEFENSIVE TEAMS HE HAVE BASKETBALL IS 2 WAY SPORT.
WHY DURANT CANT PLAY 80 GAMES PER SEASON ?? IS HE A FRAGILE DIVA ??
RUSS WESTBROOK IS GOD POINT GUARD WILT CHAMBERLAIN I DUNNO WHO DURANT IS WHAT HE WON IN CAREER ???
U LIAR !! SHOW ME CP3 RINGS IF HE CAN SHOOT WHERE IS THE RINGS ??
I always found it insulting for years when Max Kellerman would say Westbrook's game is what Kobe and Iverson would like if they had a baby, especially when those Icons led there teams to the finals.
He’s right…. 2 inefficient players giving birth to an even more inefficient player. Sounds Right
@@brandonozoria4371 No it's his opinion. Kobe and Iverson have led there teams to the finals as well as evolved there game.
@@Profess84 In what way did Iverson evolve his game
That’s why Kellerman isn’t on first take anymore
Two men having a baby would be a monstrosity against nature. So he was technically right
Keep it up Skip! Your the Man. Haters gonna hate, dont pay attention to them. God Bless
I agree 100%, he do not belong in top 75
Did you start watching basketball this year?
@@PLAYMAKERMAINE He only had 1 above average season stop it
@@culturehub2628 One above average year when did you start watching basketball 😂😂😂
@@pb7even there is no hope for these sheep. Don't waste your time. They watch the media not basketball
Your a casual then. Study some basketball history. I’d argue he deserved it more than melo.
first time in my life I've actually agreed with Skip Bayless
I chuckled the entire time this dude is funny 😄
Westbrook hijacked his way into the HOF. Everyone was so mad at KD we universally cheered for Russ to be Russ.
Skip just keeps it real and people hate it, I always been a fan and I’m here for it💯
i like skip.. but it's gonna be super annoying if he keeps hating on luka 😆
@@jwst8 he’s going to be wrong about luka that’s going to back fire on him but he would never admit it. He just going to talk about his free throw or something
Russell is the most unselfaware player in the history of the NBA. I dont understand.
I love the brutal honesty in saying he has the worst hands of all time for a point guard.. I CAN HANDLE THE 🏀 BETTER THAN WESTBRICK!!! 💯
You probably can’t bro
I agree with Skip. The media has gassed Westbrook’s status as an all time player.
Saying he doesn’t belong in the hall of fame is a massive stretch but honestly when you listen to his argument and you know basketball. It’s hard to argue with him unless your a Westbrook fan
It’s not a massive stretch. I would put Klay Thompson in before Westbrook.
One of the deadliest shooters in history and a great defender (head and shoulders better than Russ on defense)
If you have a functioning brain you can easily argue
I swear that Westbrook will never, never! Never!! Shake Skips hands in his lifetime 🤣🏀
They probably won’t even meet 💀
It sad too. Skip use to say Westbrook was one of his favorite players to watch and that he could sell out tickets by himself. Westbrook deserves the criticism this year but in russ eyes he can do no wrong
I never seen so many empty / misleading triple doubles in my life . Steven Adam let him grab loose defensive rebounds that was give me it wasn’t like russel was grabbing offensive rebounds over people or something . So skip is on point here . And for the assist it was so forced like skip said in so many words.
only blind people coudnt see how detrimental he was for his teams
You know what Mr.Bayless.maybe Westbrook is not a top 75 player or maybe borderline HOF.His biggest mistake is to play every day.You see if you are in street clothes most of the time,you can't be criticized.Westbrook is a flawed player and maybe a stat padder,but he plays and I find it strange that the sports media and people like Bayless rarely go after athletes that are always injured and always in street clothes.That's the biggest problem in the NBA and the fans are paying the price.I make no excuses for Westbrook's play but I see why Barkley is calling it quits after next year.Everytime there is a great matchup schedule,guys are sitting out,that is why he sometimes defends Westbrook.He is old school by suiting up and never cheats the game.
As Shannon says: playing hard and playing smart are not the same things. Nobody questions how much effort Russ gives but its all for nothing if it doesn't contribute to WINNING basketball, which is the opposite of Westbrooks attitude
@@zachwhitlow4 When you speak of Shannon Sharpe,I noticed watching Undisputed,they always show Westbrook"s mistakes,but rarely shows Lebron's turnovers,not playing defense,guys taking rebounds because he's just standing around.This doesn't lead to winning basketball either but everybody blames Westbrook for the Laker's failure.Westbrook did not have a good year and he said that at his exit interview.But the fact remains Westbrook was not the only reason why the Laker's had problems,it was the so-called leaderLebron who refused to play defense,pick and chose what games to play,and quit on his teammates when they did not trade Westbrook.
Skip Bayless looks like the honest type.
If Westbrook didn’t shoot and just played like Ronda did in Boston his teams would have went further I think. Imagine Durant taking all the shots and Westbrook only attacking the rim and not jacking up jump shots
I AGREE!!!let's start a petition to get him out of that list
never seen someone say someone who averaged 22 points a game for his career wit 8 assists and 1.7 steals and 4 turnovers i’ll give u that he’s decision making isn’t good but if he had shooters wit kevin durant ur telling me that westbrook has no rings ur telling me westbrook who is a 8 time all star isn’t a hall of famer he didn’t have a good year at all he needs to reshape his game but not a hall of famer is absolutely wrong and disrespectful
Like cp3 just made it to his 1st final appearance at 36 years old..like idk why they hate on this dude so much..
Russ just gotta change his game in this 3rd chapter of his career,I remember him at UCLA and those first few years in OKC,he's come along way! #TheGrind
Bruh do y’all hear an echo or is it just me?
Derrick rose has more of a claim to the hall of fame that Westbrook
Stop it.
Stop
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NO KIZZY ALL FACKS THERE WAS NO RUSS TILL ROSE GOT HURT 💯💯
I remember during the 2012 Finals, I saw how Russ plays... Then I noticed something: "this guy doesn't want to be Robin. He steals the spotlight from Kevin Durant. This looks bad."
So ye, he's just an athletic guard... Not really a "Point" Guard...
So why didn’t kd play point ?
I love that chain
Congrats on 100k
My prediction is that Westbrook will have a much improved season next season as a "smarter" player. The criticism and scrutiny this season thoroughly shook him and played a part in his actual retrogression as the season progressed. He was better in the first half of the season than in the last half of it. He will be defiant. While he might not admit publicly to his flaws, he knows that much or most of the criticism is true, and he will work well on significantly reducing his flaws and being a better team player.
I don't think I've ever seen Westbrook player smarter...can someone link a video showing this please?
He should've been doing this for his entire career. The problem is people were so focused on the flashiness and stats, they forgot he wasn't winning or making the team better. All he has are empty/meaningless stats because no one criticized him when he never won anything. Now everyone is seeing him for what he really is: skill-less. I've been trying to tell people "he will never win a ring with the way he plays."
As a Rockets fan I thought he was overrated when he won mvp because I thought harden deserved it over him because harden averaged 1 point less than Russ basically the same amount of assists and 8 rebounds instead of 10 and was a 3 seed instead of 6 with no all stars for both. Then he came to the rockets and was horrible in the bubble and that team had a chance to do something and Westbrick showed up and actually helped the lakers win a championship. I put up with him for one year and I wanted him gone and I wished cp3 never got hurt and him and harden got along at the end I wanted cp3 back. And Westbrick has done nothing since
I'm a rockets fan and not a fan of him but we have forgotten how easy it is to get into the basketball hall of fame compared to other sports. The triple double was an untouchable records before he did it multiple times. No disrespect but Ben Wallace made it last year
@@crashcrew6Ben Wallace deserved to be in the HOF even before last year. He’s one of the most successful defenders of all time and by far the greatest undrafted player ever. He won a Championship with the 04 Pistons as the defensive anchor and effectively defended Shaq and almost won a ring against Tim Duncan and the Spurs in 2005. All of this at 6’7-6’8 and pure work ethic. You’re a casual or a young fan. You didn’t see those great Pistons teams. Btw, he has the most DPOTY awards, tied with Mutumbo.
@@crashcrew6 Ofc Ben Wallace got him he was a great player
@@officialconch yes I understand that and no I was in college when they beat the lakers and nobody thought they would. I'm not saying Ben wasn't a great player and he was defensive mvp. But russ was the mvp so that doesn't count for anything. He actually made the triple double not count for anything anymore because he has so many. I'm not saying he is the best or anything like that
@@crashcrew6 Russ should not make it, but using Big Ben as an example is faulty af
I wonder if skips ever gone a day without saying Lebrons name since he entered the NBA .. 🤔
Id put all my money on that he hasnt lmao
people already said westbrick long ago but skip made it a household name lol
I am convinced that this is Skips message to Russ letting him know:
"You called me out and I called you out and now that the season is over, I won and you lost". Enjoy your victory lap Skip lol.
Lmaoo bro said a 8x all star isn’t a HOFer 😂😂💀💀💀
@@AliFrankTheTank skip been hating on Russ for years now
@@AliFrankTheTank why gives af about all star appearances? That alone doesn’t make you a HoF😂
@@Vito_Caligiuri he does have an MVP and multiple all NBA appearances. Say what you want about Westbrook but no one can deny he was a top 3 player in the league for a few years
Skip spitting fax. 40%/30% guys with no defense kill your team
I absolutely agree.
Saying Russ doesn’t deserve to be top 75 or the hall of fame is definitely reaching
Over vince carter, tracy McGrady, klay 3x champion Thompson.... that top 75 need to be revised
@@2nvsolo451 Aint no way u said Vince and Tmac are better than Russ
@@mudathirumar9902 they are definitely better players T Mac and Vince at they peak especially T Mac are way better do you know anything about basketball Russ never had a better year than T Mac ‘02 season alone
@@donovanprice3321 T Mac got swept that season
@@donovanprice3321 2017 Russ>any version of Vince
I wanna say I’m probably the only guy on RUclips that said in real time the Westbrook situation would in no way work out. I got a lot of flack not now I look like Nostradamus. Good content skip, on point 100%
I agree Westbrook is not a top 75 player.
u dont watch basketball
The argument of people not wanting to play with Westbrook is so stupid bro. None of the players that he mentioned won a ring. KD has 2 rings with a 73-9 team.. nothing after that. Harden and PG don’t have anything. They haven’t play a final or anything without Westbrook, so I really want to ask, what is the point of bringing this guys in the conversation?
The Media just hate the dude🤷🏾♂️
Still doesn’t get rid of the fact that he’s BEEN overrated
Hot take, but Russ hasn’t seen much, if any regression.
His efficiency/turnover rate were about his career averages this season. He simply had a lower usage rate.
He’s never been a good 3pt%, defender, and always turned the ball over. What’s changed?
A bigger market where we actually got to watch him EVERY NIGHT. Not the 4-6 national televised games for where he’d blow our socks off. How he’s regressed as a shooter, decision maker and finisher is outstanding. Bron the primary ball handler but Russ still led team in turnovers. It’s just wild
wonder if the narrative "without so and so didnt make it to this point" KD hasn't made the finals without russ or curry
I've said for years that he was a bad player in my opinion. I have always said he will mess up a game way back when he was in OKC
u dont watch basketball
Say what you will about Westbrook the fact is that if GM for the OKC Thunder Sam Presti hadn't made the stupidest trade in the history of the NBA getting rid of Harden he would have won multiple championships. That team was the most talented in the history of basketball. No team has EVER had 3 MVP level players on it and they also had Ibaka who was great in his own right. The Warriors would have never happened because they would have gotten run over by OKC. I still can't believe Presti did that. It's inexplicable.
nah.. harden and westbrick would've clashed eventually, they both wanted to be superstars
@@jwst8 Those guys did NOT want to break up. They were absolutely shocked. They had already been to one finals which they would have won had Scott Brooks not foolishly continued to start the worthless Kendrick Perkins. They would have been back probably 5-6 times with those 3 and won multiple championships eventually. You're wrong and you have no idea what you're talking about.
@@joeldriver3971 nothing is guaranteed. You have no idea if they would win or not.
I don't think they would win because the problem started with Westbrook taking more shots then Durant. Now add Harden to that mix and that would have been a disaster.
Harden is known to play bad in the post season. Westbrook is a turnover machine. That entire offense would rely on Durant shooting so good that it would make up for the mistakes of their poor shooting.
Also neither Harden or Westbrook plays defense. They be a good team, but they still end up losing to the warriors, Spurs or Cavs.
It's crazy, but this actually makes sense. Broussard once said that Westbrook was more successful in the playoffs then I think Nash. However, he's wrong, he only made it past the first round when he was with Durant or Harden. As the lead guy on some high seeded good teams he can't get out of the first round. What he does doesn't help teams win. If Alex English, Dantley, and others aren't top 75, then how is Russ? It's not about stats but about helping your team.
He is more successful than Nash int he playoffs. Lmao dude what r u talking about?? He had absolute scrubs in OkC when he was dragging them to the playoffs by himself. He’s literally been to 4 Confrence finals and a finals. KD hasn’t been out of the 2nd round without Steph or Russ either.
The production value is a bit underwhelming. His voice doesn't sound like it's mic'd correctly, and I think they're going for the wrong background and aesthetic for skip.
colin cowherd was saying this for years and i always agreed with him.. skip and leshannon were always saying "russ is ferocious, he's playing hard, bla bla".. but I'm glad they've finally seen the truth, lol
Thing is skip he averaged a triple double in 4 seasons he’s the only player to do it. Thing is Bradley Beal said he’s a good guy and player
I'm sure Westbrook is a good guy. And I'm sure he is a good player.
His play style does not help the team win though. I mean it technically could if he was a more efficient shooter and a better passer.
But what good is ten assists when you have 6 turnovers? What good is 30pts when you have 20+ shots?
What good is ten rebounds when you are leaving the guy open that you're guarding allowing him to get easy shots?
This guy Russ is in his own way.
Theres a skip bayless show? Awesome!
Skip for president!!!
Fix the feed back, I can hear Skip echoing.
Skip is like Pat Bev, even you love him or hate him
Dude would steal rebounds from his own big men. Also when there was a missed shot, the seas would part so he can get a cheap rebound. On the other hand, his athleticism, energy, and effort levels were legendary though. Hall of Fame sure, but not a slam dunk
Look at the bubble. When the Lakers played the Rockets, their game plan was literally to let Westbrook shoot. They left him open every possession. For the life of me, I can’t fathom why LeBron and AD would okay this trade in the first place. I also can’t fathom why Pelinka would even consider it either! It’s insanity.
SKIP BAYLESS CAN LOWKEY BRING OUT THE BEST IN ATHLETES BC HE KEEPS THEM IN CHECK. Yes he has some of the dumbest takes but that's just him trying not to jump on the bandwagons. Skip was right about his takes on Pacquiao, Bron being afraid of the free throw line, and Jordan being the GOAT of NBA.
Skip leave this man alone!
If I was a GM I would never sign Russell Westbrick.
Skip is a hater Russ is a 1st ballot hall of famer and top 75 Skip mad because Okc don’t like him over Russ
Russ should just spend this time learning the game over and practicing shots.
It's really all he can do to improve and he can. Others that did this have improved.
We can officially put the "LeBron makes players better" myth to bed
Lmao he destroys his teammates and front office so he looks better instead. Its been known.
@@actormertsirin And yet his led 3 DIFFERENT teams to nba championships while being Finals MVP 😂
@@VictorRodriguez-qn1kz Wade, Bosh, Ray Allen, Kyrie, Bam-Dragic injured. He has not earned a single championship. Gets bailed out every time. Jumps ship every chance he gets. He truly is toxic for the locker room.
@@actormertsirin they don't win those rings without Bron my G and that's a fact. And jump ship ? Last time I checked he has never requested a trade so he's got every right to exercise his Free Agent right.
He got a bunch of dud teamates huge contracts over the years by making them championship players .. wtf you talking about
Skip you need to stop this, he’s a hall of famer. He’s falling off now but his peak was easily hall of fame worthy.
THANK YOU
c'mon Skip, I'm a salty lakers fan but Russ definitely belongs in the HOF. He's past his prime now but prime Russ was scary. He was basically a small Giannis in transition.
Russell Westbrook has for the last 6 or 7 years been playing a different game than everybody else - just happens to be on the same court. Everyone else is playing a game where a win happens when the points your team accumulates is greater than your opponent’s points. He plays a game where he wins if he gets double digit stats in three categories. Team win/loss didn’t matter. Play-off success didn’t matter. He even said - championships don’t matter. He’s pursued the ultimate side quest and mastered it while ignoring the overall objective of the game. It’s the one thing he can do better than any others, and because other ballers can’t do it, they find it impressive and also think he’s great for it. But that’s all it is, is a very hard side quest. 🤷🏻♂️
So please explain skip why does he win 75% of the games he had a triple double. If that doesn't help to win shouldn't it be below 50% IN WINS
Stop hating man. There is no point guard besides Curry and CP3 that deserves more to go into the HoF than Westbrook. Personally I think that Russ would've easily won a chip with klay, draymong and KD but that's just me. The disrespect needs to stop.
Regular season.
You need a new mic Skip
Clearly Skip isn't an "I told you type of guy" 😂😂
This just makes me realize how boring Skip is by himself. Without somebody to debate with he’s is not entertaining
Russ is a sure fire/slam dunk Hall of Famer….if he doesn’t get picked up then shame on the league. You’re a clown Skippy. Nobody plays harder than Russ and that alone will make me his fan for life.
I’d be the hardest playing NBA player too if I was out there, doesn’t mean I’d be in the hall of fame lmao
Skip has a lot of guts going this hard at Westbrook - knowing he might run into him in L.A. He has basically nothing good to say about him and we all know that everyone has good elements to them. At this point I feel bad for Westbrook
Westbrick is gonna run up on Skip and miss a hook.
I think Russ belongs in HOF but not top 75
I agree. I think his MVP kinda helped his Top 75 case. When he won that MVP I don't think he was looked at as the best PG in the league.
He’s got the accolades to be top 75. If players like melo can make it he definitely should have.
Melo is 8 in scoring, I think, but other than that he doesn't have much. He was never 1st team all nba, like Russ he didn't help his teams, and wasn't much of an all around player. That's why guys like Stephen A called him a superstar scorer. Lol, it's kind of a backhanded compliment.
@@Darnel88 Harden should have won MVP that year over Russ imo
So Reggie Miller and Dame do?
he saying all this he still a hall of famer you can't take that away
And he’s NBA 75 clearly 😂
Skip stop hating and talking about the lakers. WE DONT CARE
You don't gotta listen, you chose to watch Skip's breakdown.
Go complain about CNN or whatever you usually do...lol
He belongs to 90s basketball game.
Clearing 47m off the books is not a stupid idea
He’s right
Thank you I was wondering why they keep calling him a hof. They guy padded his stats
Nothing but facts
The Lakers are going to have options to move Westbrook and not just in a salary dump this offseason.
Nobody is going to want Westbrick
He's a hall of famer but not top 75
Who should be over him?
just like the manufacture of boy bands, the "legacy" of Russell Westbrook is also manufactured...just as other commenters have stated, his teammates actively helped in allowing Westbrook to get rebounds, his ability to drive and dish would naturally provide assists and layups should provide points despite poor shooting...so the media manufactured Westbrook into an MVP...and now, this player will going to the HOF...shameful.
Its westbrick now but when KD left the thunder everyone was riding Westbrook tip, because no one liked the way KD left Russ for the warriors so fans were all Fake mad and emotional now you look back at it now everyone changed their tune
true.. everyone except colin cowherd
@@jwst8 that's true
James harden left him? Didn’t Russ go to Washington?
It’s sad how when u hustle it’s stat padding so if that’s the case wat bout giannis?? Oh it’s cuz giannis not a rebel like Russ…. u notice how they only attack the outspoken athletes n now some people sayin draymon overrated???
The smartest thing Westbrook could do is become a Rondo/ Rodman hybrid and not look to score anymore=just rebounds and assists and take 4 shots a game...breakaway dunks only...If he did he would become the most beloved figure in the wnba...But he won't.
Bro he misses dunks so take the dunks out
I've never seen anything as funny as the Westbrook blooper reel. I'm gonna miss it. Definitely the best segment of ALL the sports shows. IMO
@@KCiAzN Then he is done.
Rondo Rodman hybrid? What
@@brentw0681 No offense to anyone but Rhondo and Rodman are two of the smartest players to ever play in the nba. Russ couldn't be either one even if he tried. Skip Bayless may have some odd takes sometimes but he's right. Westbrook has the worst hands of any point guard he's ever seen. So if u wanna pad stats and not win then Russ is ok. But if u wanna win he doesn't have the basketball iq or intangibles.
Stop gaslighting everyone Skip.