I've had these symptoms for years and always thought it was climber's elbow. I did all the normal rehab stuff for it and nothing helped. About 6 months ago I saw a video by Tom Randall that recommended the locust pose forearm stretch that ended up helping me immensely. Even he admitted he didn't understand why it helped though, but it seems like the reason may be related to this nerve entrapment. I'm going to do all your recommended exercises and if it fixes my elbow completely I'll definitely be buying a shirt to help support the channel. Thank you!
I’m jumping on this boat too! It’s been years of treating the elbow the ‘traditional’ ways to no avail - even seeing (non-climbing) physic’s, and this has ticked every box for symptoms! I knew this vid would be super helpful the moment I saw the teaser on Instagram!
i have had elbow pain for 2 years now and i've always thought it was golfer's elbow, but it's probably a nerve intrapment or inflammation. Other than the locust pose what exercise would you recommend?
Thank you for everything you provide to the climbing community it's truly priceless! I would love a video about carpal tunnel syndrome as I believe I've been suffering from it for some time now (sharp pain at the base of the thumb (palm side) when I flex my wrist). Love your content, climb safe!
Hi there! I am a new climber and these videos are helping me to train and try to prevent and rehab from injury in so many ways. As an later climber, I'm so thankful for them. Would you perhaps do a video or so on things for older climbers, especially for those coming in older (I'm in my late 40s)? There are more us of us out there than I think people know and I know I need all the help I can get. :) Thank you
I sometimes feel like Dr. Hooper is stalking me... Whenever I get a specific pain/injury, you release a video just on that and save me! Thank you so much :)
My elbow pain manifested as pain at the elbow but also under my bicep. The pain was bad enough that I would often quit the session. None of the traditional exercises did anything, but when I started nerve glides and stretching the pain resolved very quickly. If anything, it's worth giving the glides and stretches a chance.
@@HoopersBeta I second this. Under bicep and front shoulder and pec pretty tight but the stretches definitely relieved tension. However, my pain areas became slightly numb/ inflamed after flossing. Normal?
I feel exactly the same as a relatively new climber (6months). Doing the stretches along with the video was such a revelation, to feel my fingers tingle a little on one side. Some of the stretches felt really good on the arm that experinced it. If I remember, I will let you know in the future how well it goes with the stretches from now on :)
I'm soo thankful for this video! I just haven't been able to wrap my head around my (golfers)elbow and the other sensations I've been having. As of now it seems more plausible that I'm dealing with a nerve issue rather than a tendom inflammation. I will deff try out these exercises. I can't lie on my back with my phone for more than a couple of minutes before my arms are numb. Thank you!
The content on this channel remains absolutely top notch. How in the heck has it not reached 100k already? Officially now a member and will look to rock the Hooper's Beta apparel in the streets of Rio de Janeiro very soon. This video was so helpful!
Welcome! And thank you for the support!! Very much so appreciated :) We'll get there ;) We are dedicated and love putting this information out there so it will happen, especially with support from people such as yourself!
TL;DR This works, try it. Ok, coming back after almost a year of doing this: I had climbing/sitting lifestyle forearm pain for about 2 years at the point. I did a lot of different massages, rolling out, stretching etc. Only massaging really worked and fixing my ergonomics at work. But the pain never went away. Then I came across this video and voila, healed. The stretch I did the most was tensioning as seen at 9:08 Thanks Hooper! :)
I had this and it was especially annoying at night; I would often wake up because of the pins and needles sensation radiating down into my fingers. Neurologist recommended keeping my arms extended as much as possible for a few weeks and that made a big difference, as did nerve flossing and stretching/rolling of forearms. Learning how to sleep with straight arms wasn't easy, by the way :)
Thank you so much. I went to my Primary Care Provider with this issue mo tha ago and they order an EMG Nerve Conduction study which yielded no results- to which she said if it doesn't get better in a month we'll do the study again (as if that makes any sense- in the process of finding a new PCP). My chiro gave me some never flossing exercises and had me start taking Omega 3 and Ive seen improvement but it's not gone. Very happy to see this content being put out because it was not easy to find on the internet before this video. Keep it up!
Yeah EMG nerve studies are sadly not conclusive for most nerve issues, unless the nerve issue is pretty advanced. Hopefully the details in this vid help provide more clarity!
I’ve faced similar issue over almost two years. Misdiagnosed Ulnar Nerve Entrapment. I was treating climber’s elbow for two years. Then for some reason I did a few supinated hangs on my pull up bard and felt an instant relief. I started to do them regularly during warm up and after climbing. About three hangs no longer than 20 seconds. When warming up, I’ll rest my feet on the ground, no need to do a full hang. My problem went away and has not come back for six months now. I thought I’ll share my experience. Maybe someone has similar issue where the supinated hags can help. What is supinated hang? I made it up 😊 Basically a hang on the bar when your palms are facing towards you rather than away from you. Thank you for all your work Jason! You are helping many people.
Well well well. This has been an eye opening video. Burning down both arms, tingling, pain and burning on the pinky side of hands, ring and pinkys tingling/burning/numb. All these tests produced instant symptoms. Thanks for sharing this info.
Literally had this start when I was in Olympic weightlifting. Any bicep curl movement gave me a sharp electric shock feeling… When I started climbing and properly stretching it out the problem was solved. Life changed.
At 7:36 you mention strengthening as one of the rehab categories. Can you elaborate on what strengthening exercises may help? Love the content and thank you!!
Thanks for the kind comment and support! Strengthening is a tertiary strategy, but can be useful especially if more entrapment is coming from the shoulders. If there is a large amount of anteriorly tilting of the scapula, strengthening the posterior tilt muscles can be useful. Sometimes that's the serratus anterior, other times that may mean mid/low trap strengthening.
There's an armwrestling specific movement that's helped a few climbers (and myself) at my gym. Grab a band with a pronated hand, then supinate as far as you can without turning the elbow. It's almost like antagonist to the pronatorus teres. I also found that scraping the pronator teres helped with mine a lot as well.
"You've watched our video about climbers posture but you haven't bothered to fix it" Brutal. I've been battling nerve issues for a couple of years now. Hopefully this motivates me for some serious rehab. Thank you!
I have been dealing with what I thought was triceps tendinopathy in both arms for about 4 years now. I am totally starting to think it is stemming from ulnar issues. I pray these help me and I will keep you updated! Thanks for the knowledge:)
I've tried dozens of elbow pain relief or tricep tendonitis strength videos. Yes dozens. But the constant pain is still going on. I found that when I did lifts( bench press, squats, deadlifts), the pain is not obvious. I can lift heavy. The pain only appears in certain arm positions. Glad that I find your video! thanks in advance.
Great video. What are the consequences of training with a nerve issue? If you train with tendinopathy it seems obvious you will make it worse and eventually debilitating, but are there long term consequences to the nerve getting squeezed?
Depends on the extent/irritation. If it is mild it's not that big of an issue you just need to manage. If it is causing loss of dexterity, weakness, or significant sensation loss then continuing to train and ignore it is not advised.
Not a climber, but this video exactly described my condition. Amazing resource! Testing showed symptoms, my Ulnar nerve is popping out of its groove. I'll try the rehab exercises suggested here and will report back. But thank you for such a great video!
Glad you found this helpful! Ahh subluxing ulnar nerve. More common than I thought until I found some research on it! I hope these stretches/exercises help!
I have been trying nerve flossing for a little while now but without real effect so far. However today I not only got my first full climbing session in but was also able to do pull ups on the beastmaker for the first time in months without pain. The key, at least for now, was to use a TENS unit across the ulnar nerve elbow entrapment point for a couple of hours prior to climbing. I even came back and continued beastmaker pull ups at home. My symptoms were crimping on the ring finger, and only the ring finger, caused extreme elbow pain.
I had a friend diagnosed me with ulnar problems when they hit me in the elbow with a TV remote and the pain in the hand caused me to literally get on the ground and writhe in pain. I thought it was just how people reacted to getting hit in the funny bone for years. When I started getting serious into climbing I started getting this really negging dull climbing pains in the elbow this was about 4 years ago and still persists. I went to a PT a couple years ago and they told me it was most likely climber elbow and treated it as such even after I told them it might be an ulnar nerve. I'm so happy I found this video I really hope these exercises finally solve my problem.
@@lfasar I didn't notice any immediate change, but after about 4 months of doing the tendon glides and working antagonist workouts I haven't had a problem since every now and then it will flare up but it's pretty much under control now.
Thanks a lot for this and all your other super helpful videos! I had a numb sensation in the 4th and 5th finger, without any pain at the elbow (or elsewhere). I've started doing the nerve floss and strechtes daily and it went away after only two or three days! Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for making this video. I've been in awful constant pain for 2 months and had to leave my job. For one day I couldn't even cook myself a meal. We thought it was tendinosis but it was the ulnar nerve. I have my mobility back! If you have benefits, I also would add acupuncture, chiropractor and massage to this. Also I was recommended to ice eight times a day and that has been helping as well. Thanks again!
Have you ever seen radial nerve impingement in climbers causing similar symptoms? I was diagnosed with it over 10 years ago after an overuse injury from doing field work. I was misdiagnosed by multiple docs with tennis elbow because the pain was referred there. Finally one ortho (correctly, I think) showed it was radial nerve impingement and I had a release surgery on it. Two years of persistent elbow pain cleared up completely. (Placebo surgery or not, I’ll take it!)
Yes! Certainly :) irritation or overdevelopment of muscles without subsequent adjustments / increases of mobility of the nerve system can cause radial nerve symptoms in the lateral elbow and can be misdiagnosed as tennis elbow. Sorry that it took so long for someone to catch / address that for you! But glad it finally got better.
You could also try the bilateral broomstick behind head/back stretch to open up pecs/thoracic outlet initially for GE, starts to blur the line berween tendinopathy and covertly altered neural tension!
this is deff my problem, long intense climbs making the tips of my pinkeys and ring fingers go numb, very specific sharp neve pain inside the inside of my elbow starting at the ulnar and moving up and along the anatomical nerve path into my lower inside bicep, the prayer stretch was a position i already knew because i had used it to identify when i would feel the bicep and ulnar pain. flossing, prayers stretch and the doorway bicep stretch i think are the best suited, especially the doorway bicep stretch. Since I'm newer to climbing, but accelerated quickly to V5, I am dealing with crimps at full extension, but still don't have the finger strength and practice, and confident footwork to handle them with relaxed form and straight elbows, thus im still muscling my way through more difficult hand positions with bent elbows. It used to be worse, but it has gotten better, and i think that may be due to better form and footwork, while the muscles and nerves have adjusted to the work. ideal elbow is locked off or straight arm, but the wide angle bent elbow is the most intense strain.
Here's hoping this will help with the issues I'm having once and for all! Sharp radiating pain (8-9/10 on the pain scale) below the elbow with a sensation of numbness from the elbow down that occurs only sometimes when climbing, but especially after strenuous internally rotated positions, that persists for some time - but then almost by magic disappears.
Thank you for the video. I actually do have pain in my elbow and it's always better after a good releasing back massage or osteopathy session. The only issue I have is with your definition of "nasty sloper". Because we all know that "if it's on a volume, it's a Jug" per definition. :)
Love the channel. Was wondering if you ever thought about doing a video on herniated discs caused by climbing? I slipped a disc a couple months ago while climbing, and although it's a lot better, I want to find ways while climbing to avoid another injury.
It's definitely something we've considered, but it's a big complicated topic with a lot of misconceptions circulating (for example, the term "slipped a disc"). It's on our radar, though. Thanks for the reminder!
Wow! Watched the vid but was not convinced at first because I only felt something with the third exercise. Then the next night I fell asleep on my chest with a bent elbow (pretty much in lock-off position) and I woke up at night with a numb pinky and ring finger, which never happened before. So now I'm convinced it's not climbers elbow (so long for al the wrist curls...) Thanks, will deff buy a T-shirt and recommend to other people!
Dang! What timing! Well, happy that you have a resource now to help conquer that elbow pain :) Thanks for commenting, the support, and the recommendation :)
I have this from time to time, and nerve glides and just casual stretching randomly throughout the day helped me a lot. If it blossoms out during à sesh i also experience loss of power in the bicep area, up to 50%.
Amazing very detailed video! Would a nerve issue also be painful upon touch/pressing? I've got this sharp pain in the medial side of the elbow (very localized near the bony structure) since a couple of months. Feels very sensitive upon touch, like a bruise would.
@@HoopersBeta I am not even exaggerating, but yesterday I started having tingling on my fingers and googled my symptoms. Went from thinking it was my carpal tunnel to this. Tried some nerve gliding, but the traction exercise here was almost instant relief. Now, a day later, I still feel the nerve/fingers kind of weird, but no longer tingling. Thank you! I have always had pain on the inside of my elbow. I am relatively strong and train extension/flexion of the wrist. But the pain it's only reduced, never gone. I hope improving my nerve "mobility" will solve this issue for me. I am almost thankful of felling the nerve tingling. Maybe it will allow me to finally fix this pain. This is a very good resource!
The video you guys put out a while back about nerve flossing/gliding helped me target and fix a wrist issue I'd been dealing with for years and I thank you guys for all you do. I've been experiencing numbness in the front of my shin as well as the top of my foot with flexion being limited. A video focused on the nerves in the legs would be super cool to see!
Omg this is so helpful. I've been doing climbers elbow stretches and my pain has gotten worse. These exercises work much better. Thank you. Do people with ulnar nerve issues need to rest or is it better to keep climbing but add the stretches?
I've had ulnar nerve pain ever since I broke my elbow years ago, climbing always aggravates the pain. I've tried tons of different things but what's really made a difference is regular ulnar nerve flossing. I swear by it.
@@HoopersBeta yes sir, I can. Trapezius, splenius, semispinalis capitis, rhomboids minor and major, this whole complex of muscles (I'm probably forgetting many others) suffer very often muscle knots and sometimes it is not necessarily due to lack of strength or balance or other normal things, Sometimes knots appear due to psychological stress or even bad sleeping positions, and apparently it is very common and not necessarily linked to training or climbing but it affects a lot in both. Thanks for the feedback.
No such thing as knots. Start working on your thoracic mobility, mainly extension and rotation along with strengthening the entire back and you will see a difference in upper back pain or "knots".
It sounds like i dont have this but do have the old climbers/golfers elbow. Hopefully i can fix it as ive seen people online saying it took them years to resolve
Yeah certainly, especially if you have forward/rounded shoulders and shortening of pec minor. Or if you are constantly resting your elbows on supports that directly irritate the cubital tunnel.
@@HoopersBeta resting your elbows is a must for good arm/wirst mouse control and keyboard use...I never had this problem when using a game controller 🤦🏽♂️ I'll see if the exercises help 👍🏼
I used to climb 7a, but since 1 year I can‘t even do 1 pullup. Arms straight to both sides I‘m unable to straighten my fingers. Doctors only found minor shoulder impingement issues. I miss climbing so much, hope your tips will help. Thank you!
Question: I recently have been waking up repeatedly in the night because my fingers are numb and tingling even if I wasn’t laying on my arm. Is this caused by ulnar nerve compression as well? Maybe overtraining? Thanks for the great vid!
This could actually be the "decompressor" presentation. Meaning, your nerves blood supply might be constantly compressed throughout the day (perhaps with your posture, work positions, etc) and then at night the pressure is removed, blood flow is restored, and you get symptoms such as tingling. Similar to when you sit on your foot, it falls asleep, and then you move it around and it becomes burning, tingling, and slightly painful. The restoration of blood flow can cause those symptoms. Pay attention to if it is occurring around the same time every night and if you have sedentary behaviors during the day. If so, that might just be you. If that does not match, then you may need to explore the position you are sleeping in because you might be compressing the blood supply with whatever position you are in.
@@HoopersBeta thank you for the reply! It may be my sleeping position because I’m not usually sitting for very long. I’ll try to sleep with better posture!
@@jellyjoe8148"Glad" to know that someone else felt the same way! Hope you've got rid of the problem and I'm interested how you managed it. First i had ellbow pain like descibed. After 5-6 months it turned into tingling and numbness also during the day almost everytime. It made me crazy so i stopped training for 6 weeks now. It just got slightly better...
Thank you for the video! I have these symptoms for 2/3 weeks now. I was wondering if you can still climb moderately with these symptoms. Or would you recommend no climbing at all until the symptoms are gone?
Uuuuuhm quick input I’ve done a lot of extensive research using neural networks to sample data from climbers, non climbers and even Barack Obama. The conclusion of that research is, in short, that what you’re stating at 6:20 is false and should be disregarded by everyone watching this video. In fact, many of the subjects experienced incredible health benefits, such as prolonged life expectancy and greater muscle growth from doing just that.
Wow, I guess maybe my supposed climber's elbow might actually be ulnar nerve entrapment! That prayer stretch created radiating tingles all down my arm. I'm gonna try some nerve flossing and see how it goes!
I had similar symptoms after my injured my elbow grabbing a sloper. I had pain radiating to my hands. Long story short I developed stage 4 osteoarthritis after being misdiagnosed. Do you have any information on this specifically or long term prognosis with climbers?
Thanks for the video! I'll try the exercises and see if they help. I have cubital tunnel issues (the ulnar nerve and/or adjacent tendons kinda glide over the bony part of the inside of my elbow when I bend it) and a PT I saw didn't have much to suggest on that particular issue (in her defense I was consulting for another issue and glanced over that one). Would a video on that specific issue be warranted or would it be too similar to this one?
That sounds more like an ulnar nerve subluxation than a cubital tunnel issue. If the ulnar nerve is gliding over the bony prominence when you flex/bend you're elbow it means that it is subluxing. Treatment can be similar, though!
Yeah it can. The nerve itself passes along adjacent to the tricep and often one of the older recs for ulnar nerve pain was to stop doing tricep isolated exercises. This still can have merit if that's really irritating your symptoms but there are likely better adjustments to be made than just purely eliminating.
@@HoopersBeta honestly, I am not referring to any specific injury, as I do not know what hip injuries are common in climbing. But it is a topic that interests me, as it is rarely talked about in the climbing community, and my hips suck lol.
hah :) gotcha. Yeah the hips are an interesting topic. They are such a powerful part of our bodies, yet a bit undertrained in many climbers. Mobility and stability are quite important, though!
Hey - so I tested positive for all three of the tests. Does that mean that I have ulnar nerve entrapment or can medial epicondilitis also cause those symptoms? Thanks
If you tested positive to all of the nerve tests but don't have symptoms, you may just have neural tension but without symptom provocation. If you develop symptoms, though, you may want to perform some of the treatments in order to reduce/eliminate the symptoms.
when I did a barbell overhead tricep with dumbbells, then I can't even do push ups, it came out in my medial triceps, it hurts me a lot, how can I cure this with what exercises do you suggest? do I have to stretch or is there no other solution except surgery PLEASE REPLY BROTHER❤now i have popping in medial tricep near elbow please help me❤
Indeed! Or at least along a similar line, it might be getting "caught" on a structure or entrapped at a certain position and then released as it changes.
If you have a congenital subluxation these can help, especially if you have factors like limited tricep or FCU length. But, each case is different and you want to see what feels like it helps you the best :)
Thank you soo much for this video, ive been having pain in both my wrists for over a year and lately starting to feel it in my elbow and ive never known why, after testing i am 100% sure this is it. Hopefully these exercises will help.
For me it's when i do charged pushups i feel like a crack then it becomes painfull when i did your tests in number 2 and 3 i just felt a little stretch no pain ??
Can a tender spot (when pressed or leaned on) halfway between the elbow and the pinky finer (midway down the forearm) be cubital tunnel syndrome? What kind of professional would be able to diagnose this (physical therapist, primary care provider, etc)? Thanks.
Your PCP or a PT that works with elbow pain/climbers should be able to diagnose it! OT's (occupational therapists) can also. A PCP that doesn't work with elbows/forearms may simply refer you to OT/PT though if that isn't their speciality. The tender spot you're referring to itself isn't confirmation of ulnar nerve compression/irritation as it could be a number of different things in that area. Best to have additional evidence for a true diagnosis. I'm available for appointments/consults if need be!
i've had symptoms for about a year now, and while they're not severe (i would categorize them as "mildly annoying"), i have recently started to notice a slight weakness in grip strength in my affected hand, particularly when doing weighted pull-ups, and that my pinky and ring finger on that hand are a bit clumsier than they used to be, which has become an annoyance when i play the piano. i think im kind of just a perfect storm for neuropathy - i climb, i do a lot of pull ups, i play musical instruments, i spent a lot of time on my pc, my posture is pretty poor, and i don't do mobility/stretching work nearly as much as i should. do you think that following the nerve flosses and stretches (i think the tricep and pec stretches in particular will help a lot based on where i feel symptoms) over a few weeks will be enough, or should i seek more aggressive treatment with a pt given the motor and sensory issues i'm starting to feel?
i have elbow pain in tahe grove and little back of elbow specially when triceps exercises and push exercises but dont have numbness its nerve compression in elbow ? at first i though its tindonitis
If you're referring to the cubital tunnel then yes that sounds like nerve compression. It doesn't have to cause numbness or tingling the sensation it produces could be a dull ache, sharp pain, or even burning sensation.
I’ve had multiple slight tears of AC joint in my shoulder and I notice that my right shoulder (the one effected) is slightly raised when I raise both arms in the air into an iron cross type position. For the last year, I’ve had elbow pain which I’ve assumed is climbers elbow. Would an AC joint injury be likely to cause these ulnar nerve symptoms (mine are most severe in the elbow)? And what stretch would be best for targeting the shoulder region?
It certainly can especially since it runs under the clavicle. If you have any irregularities related to the tears or simply adaptations it can impact your neural mobility. In that case best to get it reviewed personally or try all of the tests in the video to see if they help!
Is it in your opinion curable with physio? I’ve had both sided subluxation/dislocation of ulnar nerve, it was never a problem. I am lifting from years. From half year, when I was training hard pullups, learning muscleups - inner elbow pain started. Thought it was medial epicondylitis, but after this time - I am not sure. Didn’t have typical neurological symptoms, just medial elbow pain, tbh especially at medial epicondyle. Pain is now worse at certain positions. Pulls are worse than pushes. Do you think it is curable at some point?
Curable, likely. Manageable, absolutely. Sometimes it is more about managing it especially with the subluxation of the ulnar nerve (which is surprisingly not that uncommon. But you also shared another great example. One of the most confusing things with nerve pain is that it is often only associated with numbness and tingling, but nerve pain can absolutely be a dull ache, it can be sharp, etc. Thanks for sharing and I hope you are able to find relief!
Nagging Injury! Hip labral tear for climbers. No surgery required says my PT, but over a year of dealing with it. Hardly ever feel it climbing, but walk like an old man after any hard session.
I've had these symptoms for years and always thought it was climber's elbow. I did all the normal rehab stuff for it and nothing helped. About 6 months ago I saw a video by Tom Randall that recommended the locust pose forearm stretch that ended up helping me immensely. Even he admitted he didn't understand why it helped though, but it seems like the reason may be related to this nerve entrapment. I'm going to do all your recommended exercises and if it fixes my elbow completely I'll definitely be buying a shirt to help support the channel. Thank you!
Dang sorry to hear that you had to deal with it for so long but hopefully (as you mentioned) this video proves to be the cure!
Couple of years in the same boat. Hopefully back to pull ups soon.
I’m jumping on this boat too! It’s been years of treating the elbow the ‘traditional’ ways to no avail - even seeing (non-climbing) physic’s, and this has ticked every box for symptoms! I knew this vid would be super helpful the moment I saw the teaser on Instagram!
So did you buy a shirt?
i have had elbow pain for 2 years now and i've always thought it was golfer's elbow, but it's probably a nerve intrapment or inflammation. Other than the locust pose what exercise would you recommend?
Thank you for everything you provide to the climbing community it's truly priceless!
I would love a video about carpal tunnel syndrome as I believe I've been suffering from it for some time now (sharp pain at the base of the thumb (palm side) when I flex my wrist).
Love your content, climb safe!
Thanks for the kind words of support! We are happy to do it :) We'll throw that on the list!
Hi there! I am a new climber and these videos are helping me to train and try to prevent and rehab from injury in so many ways. As an later climber, I'm so thankful for them. Would you perhaps do a video or so on things for older climbers, especially for those coming in older (I'm in my late 40s)? There are more us of us out there than I think people know and I know I need all the help I can get. :) Thank you
I sometimes feel like Dr. Hooper is stalking me... Whenever I get a specific pain/injury, you release a video just on that and save me! Thank you so much :)
The lack of response is an admission, guardian angel
My elbow pain manifested as pain at the elbow but also under my bicep. The pain was bad enough that I would often quit the session. None of the traditional exercises did anything, but when I started nerve glides and stretching the pain resolved very quickly. If anything, it's worth giving the glides and stretches a chance.
Thanks for sharing! That's awesome that the nerve glides and stretches helped when others couldn't!
@@HoopersBeta I second this. Under bicep and front shoulder and pec pretty tight but the stretches definitely relieved tension. However, my pain areas became slightly numb/ inflamed after flossing.
Normal?
I feel exactly the same as a relatively new climber (6months). Doing the stretches along with the video was such a revelation, to feel my fingers tingle a little on one side. Some of the stretches felt really good on the arm that experinced it. If I remember, I will let you know in the future how well it goes with the stretches from now on :)
I have the exact same issue. Is the pain permanently gone? Which stretches helped the most?
Your dramatic reenactments always get me! :D
I'm soo thankful for this video! I just haven't been able to wrap my head around my (golfers)elbow and the other sensations I've been having. As of now it seems more plausible that I'm dealing with a nerve issue rather than a tendom inflammation. I will deff try out these exercises. I can't lie on my back with my phone for more than a couple of minutes before my arms are numb. Thank you!
Ahhh nice! Well, not nice that you've been dealing with this, but hopefully this video and it's different exercises will help you!
The content on this channel remains absolutely top notch. How in the heck has it not reached 100k already?
Officially now a member and will look to rock the Hooper's Beta apparel in the streets of Rio de Janeiro very soon. This video was so helpful!
Welcome! And thank you for the support!! Very much so appreciated :)
We'll get there ;) We are dedicated and love putting this information out there so it will happen, especially with support from people such as yourself!
TL;DR This works, try it.
Ok, coming back after almost a year of doing this: I had climbing/sitting lifestyle forearm pain for about 2 years at the point. I did a lot of different massages, rolling out, stretching etc. Only massaging really worked and fixing my ergonomics at work. But the pain never went away.
Then I came across this video and voila, healed.
The stretch I did the most was tensioning as seen at 9:08
Thanks Hooper! :)
Awesome, thanks for sharing!
Just wondering, do you think you had ulnar nerve entrapment? And how often did you do the tensioning exercise? Thanks 😊
@@neilzubot not a physician so I can't tell, twice a day for 10 reps
I had this and it was especially annoying at night; I would often wake up because of the pins and needles sensation radiating down into my fingers. Neurologist recommended keeping my arms extended as much as possible for a few weeks and that made a big difference, as did nerve flossing and stretching/rolling of forearms. Learning how to sleep with straight arms wasn't easy, by the way :)
Yikes! That's a bummer. Glad you were able to see someone who helped you with it though! Hah yeah changing sleep patterns is definitely challenging
Thank you so much. I went to my Primary Care Provider with this issue mo tha ago and they order an EMG Nerve Conduction study which yielded no results- to which she said if it doesn't get better in a month we'll do the study again (as if that makes any sense- in the process of finding a new PCP). My chiro gave me some never flossing exercises and had me start taking Omega 3 and Ive seen improvement but it's not gone. Very happy to see this content being put out because it was not easy to find on the internet before this video. Keep it up!
Yeah EMG nerve studies are sadly not conclusive for most nerve issues, unless the nerve issue is pretty advanced. Hopefully the details in this vid help provide more clarity!
Massive thanks for your great content. I've such symptoms and will test your suggestions. Wish I had a personal trainer like you 🙂
Thanks for the support! I hope the suggestions help!!
I’ve faced similar issue over almost two years. Misdiagnosed Ulnar Nerve Entrapment. I was treating climber’s elbow for two years. Then for some reason I did a few supinated hangs on my pull up bard and felt an instant relief. I started to do them regularly during warm up and after climbing. About three hangs no longer than 20 seconds. When warming up, I’ll rest my feet on the ground, no need to do a full hang. My problem went away and has not come back for six months now. I thought I’ll share my experience. Maybe someone has similar issue where the supinated hags can help.
What is supinated hang? I made it up 😊 Basically a hang on the bar when your palms are facing towards you rather than away from you.
Thank you for all your work Jason!
You are helping many people.
Thanks for sharing! Glad you were able to resolve your issue :)
"As if watching an aeroplane fly over". Lovely detail. I did chortle somewhat at that while in mid stretch! 😅
Well well well. This has been an eye opening video.
Burning down both arms, tingling, pain and burning on the pinky side of hands, ring and pinkys tingling/burning/numb.
All these tests produced instant symptoms. Thanks for sharing this info.
Glad it was useful!
Literally had this start when I was in Olympic weightlifting. Any bicep curl movement gave me a sharp electric shock feeling… When I started climbing and properly stretching it out the problem was solved. Life changed.
Oh dang! Glad that climbing and stretching was the solution for you!
Thanks!
Thank you :)
At 7:36 you mention strengthening as one of the rehab categories. Can you elaborate on what strengthening exercises may help?
Love the content and thank you!!
Thanks for the kind comment and support! Strengthening is a tertiary strategy, but can be useful especially if more entrapment is coming from the shoulders. If there is a large amount of anteriorly tilting of the scapula, strengthening the posterior tilt muscles can be useful. Sometimes that's the serratus anterior, other times that may mean mid/low trap strengthening.
There's an armwrestling specific movement that's helped a few climbers (and myself) at my gym.
Grab a band with a pronated hand, then supinate as far as you can without turning the elbow. It's almost like antagonist to the pronatorus teres. I also found that scraping the pronator teres helped with mine a lot as well.
Glad you were able to manage / reduce your symptoms!
I started noticing these symptoms on the same day you posted the short about it, been waiting for this video since then! Thanks Hooper! 🙏🏼
Hope the full length vid helps shine some more light on your symptoms! Our pleasure :)
"You've watched our video about climbers posture but you haven't bothered to fix it"
Brutal. I've been battling nerve issues for a couple of years now. Hopefully this motivates me for some serious rehab. Thank you!
😅 that's true! Having the knowledge is one thing, utilizing it is another. Hope this video inspired you and you're able to kick these nerve issues!
I have been dealing with what I thought was triceps tendinopathy in both arms for about 4 years now. I am totally starting to think it is stemming from ulnar issues. I pray these help me and I will keep you updated! Thanks for the knowledge:)
really 4 years? Have you tried out all in that time?
I've tried dozens of elbow pain relief or tricep tendonitis strength videos. Yes dozens. But the constant pain is still going on. I found that when I did lifts( bench press, squats, deadlifts), the pain is not obvious. I can lift heavy. The pain only appears in certain arm positions. Glad that I find your video! thanks in advance.
Hope this helps solve your issues!
Thanks so much!!
Incredibly helpful.
Glad it helped!
Great video.
What are the consequences of training with a nerve issue? If you train with tendinopathy it seems obvious you will make it worse and eventually debilitating, but are there long term consequences to the nerve getting squeezed?
Depends on the extent/irritation. If it is mild it's not that big of an issue you just need to manage. If it is causing loss of dexterity, weakness, or significant sensation loss then continuing to train and ignore it is not advised.
Not a climber, but this video exactly described my condition. Amazing resource! Testing showed symptoms, my Ulnar nerve is popping out of its groove. I'll try the rehab exercises suggested here and will report back. But thank you for such a great video!
Glad you found this helpful! Ahh subluxing ulnar nerve. More common than I thought until I found some research on it! I hope these stretches/exercises help!
I have been trying nerve flossing for a little while now but without real effect so far. However today I not only got my first full climbing session in but was also able to do pull ups on the beastmaker for the first time in months without pain. The key, at least for now, was to use a TENS unit across the ulnar nerve elbow entrapment point for a couple of hours prior to climbing. I even came back and continued beastmaker pull ups at home. My symptoms were crimping on the ring finger, and only the ring finger, caused extreme elbow pain.
I had a friend diagnosed me with ulnar problems when they hit me in the elbow with a TV remote and the pain in the hand caused me to literally get on the ground and writhe in pain. I thought it was just how people reacted to getting hit in the funny bone for years. When I started getting serious into climbing I started getting this really negging dull climbing pains in the elbow this was about 4 years ago and still persists. I went to a PT a couple years ago and they told me it was most likely climber elbow and treated it as such even after I told them it might be an ulnar nerve. I'm so happy I found this video I really hope these exercises finally solve my problem.
did it help?
@@lfasar I didn't notice any immediate change, but after about 4 months of doing the tendon glides and working antagonist workouts I haven't had a problem since every now and then it will flare up but it's pretty much under control now.
Wow never thought it could be because of a nerve, but one of the tests actually gave me pain, thank you for the video
Thanks a lot for this and all your other super helpful videos! I had a numb sensation in the 4th and 5th finger, without any pain at the elbow (or elsewhere). I've started doing the nerve floss and strechtes daily and it went away after only two or three days! Thanks and keep up the good work!
Thank you so much for making this video. I've been in awful constant pain for 2 months and had to leave my job. For one day I couldn't even cook myself a meal. We thought it was tendinosis but it was the ulnar nerve. I have my mobility back!
If you have benefits, I also would add acupuncture, chiropractor and massage to this. Also I was recommended to ice eight times a day and that has been helping as well.
Thanks again!
Wow sorry you had such a severe case of this but happy to hear that you're doing better!
Have you ever seen radial nerve impingement in climbers causing similar symptoms? I was diagnosed with it over 10 years ago after an overuse injury from doing field work. I was misdiagnosed by multiple docs with tennis elbow because the pain was referred there. Finally one ortho (correctly, I think) showed it was radial nerve impingement and I had a release surgery on it. Two years of persistent elbow pain cleared up completely. (Placebo surgery or not, I’ll take it!)
Yes! Certainly :) irritation or overdevelopment of muscles without subsequent adjustments / increases of mobility of the nerve system can cause radial nerve symptoms in the lateral elbow and can be misdiagnosed as tennis elbow. Sorry that it took so long for someone to catch / address that for you! But glad it finally got better.
thanks hooper. not a climber but have been experiencing these symptoms for the past 2 years not really understanding what it was.
Stoked that you were able to find this video and gain some clarity!
You could also try the bilateral broomstick behind head/back stretch to open up pecs/thoracic outlet initially for GE, starts to blur the line berween tendinopathy and covertly altered neural tension!
this is deff my problem, long intense climbs making the tips of my pinkeys and ring fingers go numb, very specific sharp neve pain inside the inside of my elbow starting at the ulnar and moving up and along the anatomical nerve path into my lower inside bicep, the prayer stretch was a position i already knew because i had used it to identify when i would feel the bicep and ulnar pain. flossing, prayers stretch and the doorway bicep stretch i think are the best suited, especially the doorway bicep stretch. Since I'm newer to climbing, but accelerated quickly to V5, I am dealing with crimps at full extension, but still don't have the finger strength and practice, and confident footwork to handle them with relaxed form and straight elbows, thus im still muscling my way through more difficult hand positions with bent elbows. It used to be worse, but it has gotten better, and i think that may be due to better form and footwork, while the muscles and nerves have adjusted to the work. ideal elbow is locked off or straight arm, but the wide angle bent elbow is the most intense strain.
Thank you so much for the great great Teaching.
You’re most welcome! 🙏
Here's hoping this will help with the issues I'm having once and for all! Sharp radiating pain (8-9/10 on the pain scale) below the elbow with a sensation of numbness from the elbow down that occurs only sometimes when climbing, but especially after strenuous internally rotated positions, that persists for some time - but then almost by magic disappears.
Thank you for the video. I actually do have pain in my elbow and it's always better after a good releasing back massage or osteopathy session.
The only issue I have is with your definition of "nasty sloper". Because we all know that "if it's on a volume, it's a Jug" per definition. :)
haha :) fair!
Love the channel. Was wondering if you ever thought about doing a video on herniated discs caused by climbing? I slipped a disc a couple months ago while climbing, and although it's a lot better, I want to find ways while climbing to avoid another injury.
It's definitely something we've considered, but it's a big complicated topic with a lot of misconceptions circulating (for example, the term "slipped a disc"). It's on our radar, though. Thanks for the reminder!
Thank you so much for this video!!!
You’re most welcome! :)
Wow! Watched the vid but was not convinced at first because I only felt something with the third exercise. Then the next night I fell asleep on my chest with a bent elbow (pretty much in lock-off position) and I woke up at night with a numb pinky and ring finger, which never happened before. So now I'm convinced it's not climbers elbow (so long for al the wrist curls...) Thanks, will deff buy a T-shirt and recommend to other people!
Dang! What timing! Well, happy that you have a resource now to help conquer that elbow pain :) Thanks for commenting, the support, and the recommendation :)
I have this from time to time, and nerve glides and just casual stretching randomly throughout the day helped me a lot. If it blossoms out during à sesh i also experience loss of power in the bicep area, up to 50%.
Happy to hear that you can manage it! Hopefully some of the other components in this video help you to keep it at bay even better.
Omg I didn’t even know I had this but I do lol thank you!! ♥️♥️♥️
Dang! Hopefully the treatments help :)
Amazing very detailed video! Would a nerve issue also be painful upon touch/pressing? I've got this sharp pain in the medial side of the elbow (very localized near the bony structure) since a couple of months. Feels very sensitive upon touch, like a bruise would.
I love this video. You have saved me!
Yay!
@@HoopersBeta I am not even exaggerating, but yesterday I started having tingling on my fingers and googled my symptoms. Went from thinking it was my carpal tunnel to this. Tried some nerve gliding, but the traction exercise here was almost instant relief. Now, a day later, I still feel the nerve/fingers kind of weird, but no longer tingling.
Thank you! I have always had pain on the inside of my elbow. I am relatively strong and train extension/flexion of the wrist. But the pain it's only reduced, never gone. I hope improving my nerve "mobility" will solve this issue for me.
I am almost thankful of felling the nerve tingling. Maybe it will allow me to finally fix this pain. This is a very good resource!
The video you guys put out a while back about nerve flossing/gliding helped me target and fix a wrist issue I'd been dealing with for years and I thank you guys for all you do. I've been experiencing numbness in the front of my shin as well as the top of my foot with flexion being limited. A video focused on the nerves in the legs would be super cool to see!
Most likely a branch off of the sciatic nerve, bummer that you're experiencing that! Happy that our original video helped you though :)
Excelent content! 👏👏👏👏
Thank you!
thank you this was so helpful
Omg this is so helpful. I've been doing climbers elbow stretches and my pain has gotten worse. These exercises work much better. Thank you. Do people with ulnar nerve issues need to rest or is it better to keep climbing but add the stretches?
That's more of a case by case situation, depending on the intensity of the issues. But I'm stoked to hear that these exercises work much better!
I've had ulnar nerve pain ever since I broke my elbow years ago, climbing always aggravates the pain. I've tried tons of different things but what's really made a difference is regular ulnar nerve flossing. I swear by it.
Oh nice, glad you found something that works well for you!
can you make a video of the upper back muscles? the ones that get blocked all the time, between the scapula and the spine. love your content.
Can you elaborate on what you mean by "the ones that get blocked all the time". Thanks for the support and the comment!
@@HoopersBeta yes sir, I can. Trapezius, splenius, semispinalis capitis, rhomboids minor and major, this whole complex of muscles (I'm probably forgetting many others) suffer very often muscle knots and sometimes it is not necessarily due to lack of strength or balance or other normal things, Sometimes knots appear due to psychological stress or even bad sleeping positions, and apparently it is very common and not necessarily linked to training or climbing but it affects a lot in both. Thanks for the feedback.
No such thing as knots. Start working on your thoracic mobility, mainly extension and rotation along with strengthening the entire back and you will see a difference in upper back pain or "knots".
It sounds like i dont have this but do have the old climbers/golfers elbow. Hopefully i can fix it as ive seen people online saying it took them years to resolve
Excellent video as always! Could long hours of gaming, like bad sitting posture, also aggravate the ulnar nerve?
Yeah certainly, especially if you have forward/rounded shoulders and shortening of pec minor. Or if you are constantly resting your elbows on supports that directly irritate the cubital tunnel.
@@HoopersBeta resting your elbows is a must for good arm/wirst mouse control and keyboard use...I never had this problem when using a game controller 🤦🏽♂️ I'll see if the exercises help 👍🏼
I used to climb 7a, but since 1 year I can‘t even do 1 pullup. Arms straight to both sides I‘m unable to straighten my fingers. Doctors only found minor shoulder impingement issues. I miss climbing so much, hope your tips will help. Thank you!
Question: I recently have been waking up repeatedly in the night because my fingers are numb and tingling even if I wasn’t laying on my arm. Is this caused by ulnar nerve compression as well? Maybe overtraining?
Thanks for the great vid!
This could actually be the "decompressor" presentation. Meaning, your nerves blood supply might be constantly compressed throughout the day (perhaps with your posture, work positions, etc) and then at night the pressure is removed, blood flow is restored, and you get symptoms such as tingling. Similar to when you sit on your foot, it falls asleep, and then you move it around and it becomes burning, tingling, and slightly painful. The restoration of blood flow can cause those symptoms. Pay attention to if it is occurring around the same time every night and if you have sedentary behaviors during the day. If so, that might just be you. If that does not match, then you may need to explore the position you are sleeping in because you might be compressing the blood supply with whatever position you are in.
@@HoopersBeta thank you for the reply! It may be my sleeping position because I’m not usually sitting for very long. I’ll try to sleep with better posture!
@@jellyjoe8148"Glad" to know that someone else felt the same way! Hope you've got rid of the problem and I'm interested how you managed it.
First i had ellbow pain like descibed. After 5-6 months it turned into tingling and numbness also during the day almost everytime. It made me crazy so i stopped training for 6 weeks now. It just got slightly better...
I've definitely done the Emil thing before.
Thank you for the video! I have these symptoms for 2/3 weeks now. I was wondering if you can still climb moderately with these symptoms. Or would you recommend no climbing at all until the symptoms are gone?
With the tricep stretch, I am getting front shoulder pain for both sides. Could you please indicate what this means?
Should I continue stretching if I feel discomfort and some dull pain at my elbow
Is it possible that scapular dyskinesia can cause ulnar nerve irritation at the elbow?
Uuuuuhm quick input I’ve done a lot of extensive research using neural networks to sample data from climbers, non climbers and even Barack Obama. The conclusion of that research is, in short, that what you’re stating at 6:20 is false and should be disregarded by everyone watching this video.
In fact, many of the subjects experienced incredible health benefits, such as prolonged life expectancy and greater muscle growth from doing just that.
Agh we must have forgotten to include Barack Obama in our data analysis! Rookie mistake!! Plz forgive 🙏😭
Wow, I guess maybe my supposed climber's elbow might actually be ulnar nerve entrapment! That prayer stretch created radiating tingles all down my arm. I'm gonna try some nerve flossing and see how it goes!
Dang! Yeah it sounds like it could be. Glad you found this video / hope it helps!
I had similar symptoms after my injured my elbow grabbing a sloper. I had pain radiating to my hands. Long story short I developed stage 4 osteoarthritis after being misdiagnosed. Do you have any information on this specifically or long term prognosis with climbers?
Is this considered the same as cubital tunnel? Does it actually solve this issue if I have elbow tingling?
Thanks for the video! I'll try the exercises and see if they help. I have cubital tunnel issues (the ulnar nerve and/or adjacent tendons kinda glide over the bony part of the inside of my elbow when I bend it) and a PT I saw didn't have much to suggest on that particular issue (in her defense I was consulting for another issue and glanced over that one). Would a video on that specific issue be warranted or would it be too similar to this one?
That sounds more like an ulnar nerve subluxation than a cubital tunnel issue. If the ulnar nerve is gliding over the bony prominence when you flex/bend you're elbow it means that it is subluxing. Treatment can be similar, though!
Can ulnar nerve issues also mimick triceps tendonitis?
Yeah it can. The nerve itself passes along adjacent to the tricep and often one of the older recs for ulnar nerve pain was to stop doing tricep isolated exercises. This still can have merit if that's really irritating your symptoms but there are likely better adjustments to be made than just purely eliminating.
Thanks a ton for the insight!@@HoopersBeta
So, if the first test introduces tingling sensation in the biceps tendon and rest of the tests are symptomless, it rules out ulnar nerve entrapment?
Thanks a lot ! .
Hope it helps!
any chance of a video about hip injuries common in climbers?
The hip is an interesting topic! And slightly complex at that :) What common hip injury are you referring to?
@@HoopersBeta honestly, I am not referring to any specific injury, as I do not know what hip injuries are common in climbing. But it is a topic that interests me, as it is rarely talked about in the climbing community, and my hips suck lol.
hah :) gotcha. Yeah the hips are an interesting topic. They are such a powerful part of our bodies, yet a bit undertrained in many climbers. Mobility and stability are quite important, though!
Hey - so I tested positive for all three of the tests. Does that mean that I have ulnar nerve entrapment or can medial epicondilitis also cause those symptoms? Thanks
If you tested positive to all of the nerve tests but don't have symptoms, you may just have neural tension but without symptom provocation. If you develop symptoms, though, you may want to perform some of the treatments in order to reduce/eliminate the symptoms.
are these exercises harmful if you have elbow popping please reply brother❤?
when I did a barbell overhead tricep with dumbbells, then I can't even do push ups, it came out in my medial triceps, it hurts me a lot, how can I cure this with what exercises do you suggest? do I have to stretch or is there no other solution except surgery PLEASE REPLY BROTHER❤now i have popping in medial tricep near elbow please help me❤
Could a "zap" in the elbow while lowering from a pull up be ulnar nerve entrapment?
Indeed! Or at least along a similar line, it might be getting "caught" on a structure or entrapped at a certain position and then released as it changes.
Is there any chance those exercices can work for ulnar nerve subluxation ?
If you have a congenital subluxation these can help, especially if you have factors like limited tricep or FCU length. But, each case is different and you want to see what feels like it helps you the best :)
Thank you
What is your opinion about antioxidants like resveratrol ?
Do they help with recovery, or the anti inflammation properties is "killing my gains"?
I think we'll have to do a video on supplements in general. Lots of research to do! :)
Perfect timing, had problem with both my elbows and was just looking for info
Hope this video helps!
Thank you soo much for this video, ive been having pain in both my wrists for over a year and lately starting to feel it in my elbow and ive never known why, after testing i am 100% sure this is it. Hopefully these exercises will help.
Oh wow, thanks for sharing! Truly hope this is your solution, but sorry that you've had to deal with it for so long!
For me it's when i do charged pushups i feel like a crack then it becomes painfull when i did your tests in number 2 and 3 i just felt a little stretch no pain ??
Do you do virtual calls? I have elbow pain and mri is clean, i have no where to turn, it is in my forearm at elbow pain
I do! Details are on our website :) www.hoopersbeta.com
@@HoopersBeta I will check your website. Do you read mri images?
Can a tender spot (when pressed or leaned on) halfway between the elbow and the pinky finer (midway down the forearm) be cubital tunnel syndrome? What kind of professional would be able to diagnose this (physical therapist, primary care provider, etc)? Thanks.
Your PCP or a PT that works with elbow pain/climbers should be able to diagnose it! OT's (occupational therapists) can also. A PCP that doesn't work with elbows/forearms may simply refer you to OT/PT though if that isn't their speciality.
The tender spot you're referring to itself isn't confirmation of ulnar nerve compression/irritation as it could be a number of different things in that area. Best to have additional evidence for a true diagnosis. I'm available for appointments/consults if need be!
i've had symptoms for about a year now, and while they're not severe (i would categorize them as "mildly annoying"), i have recently started to notice a slight weakness in grip strength in my affected hand, particularly when doing weighted pull-ups, and that my pinky and ring finger on that hand are a bit clumsier than they used to be, which has become an annoyance when i play the piano. i think im kind of just a perfect storm for neuropathy - i climb, i do a lot of pull ups, i play musical instruments, i spent a lot of time on my pc, my posture is pretty poor, and i don't do mobility/stretching work nearly as much as i should. do you think that following the nerve flosses and stretches (i think the tricep and pec stretches in particular will help a lot based on where i feel symptoms) over a few weeks will be enough, or should i seek more aggressive treatment with a pt given the motor and sensory issues i'm starting to feel?
I would say start fast and agressive so you dont get used to it, my hands are getting worse and i hope i started earlier
i have elbow pain in tahe grove and little back of elbow specially when triceps exercises and push exercises but dont have numbness its nerve compression in elbow ? at first i though its tindonitis
If you're referring to the cubital tunnel then yes that sounds like nerve compression. It doesn't have to cause numbness or tingling the sensation it produces could be a dull ache, sharp pain, or even burning sensation.
@@HoopersBeta my dr said its tindonitis cuz the pain come when triceps muscles work but i have for years you have rehab exercises for it plz
I’ve had multiple slight tears of AC joint in my shoulder and I notice that my right shoulder (the one effected) is slightly raised when I raise both arms in the air into an iron cross type position. For the last year, I’ve had elbow pain which I’ve assumed is climbers elbow. Would an AC joint injury be likely to cause these ulnar nerve symptoms (mine are most severe in the elbow)? And what stretch would be best for targeting the shoulder region?
It certainly can especially since it runs under the clavicle. If you have any irregularities related to the tears or simply adaptations it can impact your neural mobility. In that case best to get it reviewed personally or try all of the tests in the video to see if they help!
Is it in your opinion curable with physio? I’ve had both sided subluxation/dislocation of ulnar nerve, it was never a problem. I am lifting from years. From half year, when I was training hard pullups, learning muscleups - inner elbow pain started. Thought it was medial epicondylitis, but after this time - I am not sure. Didn’t have typical neurological symptoms, just medial elbow pain, tbh especially at medial epicondyle. Pain is now worse at certain positions. Pulls are worse than pushes. Do you think it is curable at some point?
Curable, likely. Manageable, absolutely. Sometimes it is more about managing it especially with the subluxation of the ulnar nerve (which is surprisingly not that uncommon. But you also shared another great example. One of the most confusing things with nerve pain is that it is often only associated with numbness and tingling, but nerve pain can absolutely be a dull ache, it can be sharp, etc. Thanks for sharing and I hope you are able to find relief!
0:58 me precisely
"never bothered to fix posture" - guilty of charge! Or actually tried to fix it, but it was always for a very short period of time.
Yeah that happens, it can take a long time to develop the proper habit to actually fix it :)
Who knew Emil could cause ulnar nerve entrapment from the other side of the world?
hah :) #influencer
Nagging Injury! Hip labral tear for climbers. No surgery required says my PT, but over a year of dealing with it. Hardly ever feel it climbing, but walk like an old man after any hard session.
bro u saved my life
Thanks!
Thank you!