This film has gone through development HELL. The original script was by Craig Mazin (who, at the time, was known for writing Scary Movie 3, Scary Movie 4, Superhero Movie and the last two Hangover movies and would go on to create and write Chernobyl and The Last of Us for HBO) and it was so good, it sparked a bidding war. When Lionsgate aquired the rights and hired Eli Roth, he immidiately made so many changes to the script that Mazin’s original work was unrecognizable and he requested to be credited by the pseudonym Joe Abercrombie/Joe Crombie on the film. Roth’s cut was deemed so unwatchable that Deadpool director Tim Miller was brought in to do extensive reshoots (the official reasoning given by the studio was that Roth was too busy filming Thanksgiving to do the reshoots) and Aaron Berg and Chris Bremner (Bad Boys For Life/Bad Boys: Ride or Die), Zak Olkewicz (Bullet Train), Tony Rettenmaier (Space Jam: A New Legacy), Juel Taylor (Creed II), Oren Uziel (Mortal Kombat!2021), and Sam Levinson were apparently brought in to do uncredited rewrites to the script. It’s no shock this movie is awful
All that faffing about for something that ABSOLUTELY isn't that complex. Like if they just wanted to focus Borderlands 1, perfect, buddy comedy with 4 Vault hunters trying to find a mythical vault on a crapsack world. Get some good jokey dialog to slice together some action scenes. Even if it's not deep it probably would have been able to be a good brain off popcorn flick. 2 would have been a bit trickier to directly translate as a movie, maybe do a prequel (NOT a pre-sequel, that already works as it's game) of how the hunters got together and wound up on Pandora together, or Roland founding the Crimson Raiders. Hell, maybe they could have done a do over on BL3 and NOT had the story be a steaming heap of trash. Given what the movie came out to be probably not, but ya know at least would be less to fall from.
@@edwardosantiago3296 I know, I’m saying the film felt more like brand extension than actually doing something new and interesting with the world or characters
There's a funny premise in there somewhere. Almost like a type of Galaxy Quest movie. Cosplayers are confused with real heroes they are based on, get transported to Pandora and forced to work together and search for 'treasure'.
The funniest part is these characters from the games have always been extremely bare bones to begin with. They had ALOT of room to have fun with accurate or fuck no takes, and somehow didn't care to do either.
I've met some big Borderlands fans back when the 2nd game came out. They had tattoos, there was a couple that cosplayed, another even went on to do a voice in the 3rd game...I feel bad for all of them. Condolences y'all!
Bad as this was, still nothing on the Artemis Fowl novels. Take plot of Book 1, bit of Books2-4 and the Hero face twist the Main character does half through the novels when he stops being an active villain, is just up front from the beginning. Never was a bad guy.
As someone whose played all the games (Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands included), this movie is about as soulless as it gets. Borderlands is what I thought Super Mario Bros was gonna be when it was first announced
I agree. The age ranging looks all sorts of messed up, and this is from someone who plays the games. I'm sad that I will never get to see Betty White playing as Maya the Siren (a character from the second game).
Well, at least THANKSGIVING was fun. Eli Roth is one of those directors I wanna like, he's a smart dude about film history whenever he's on a podcast, and yet as a director, he makes Rodriguez look like Scorsese in terms of a consistently good filmography.
Roth can do horror (sometimes) but he's never been put in charge of a big budget action movie. Also, he was fired 3/4 of the way through and the guy who directed Deadpool had to fill in and do a ton of reshoots. This was a movie 4 years in the making.
Roth is one of these guys who is so knowledgeable about genre cinema i.e. he hosts a great documentary series called history of horror on shudder but outside of Thanksgiving and a clock in its walls his horror movies are his worst work, tho I don't think Eli is all to blame this was going to be rated R something that changed when he was going to direct the Meg as well but unlike that movie he jumped ship something he obviously couldn't do here for some reason.
"It has the most forgettable villain of all time" That really sucks because Handsome Jack in the second game might have been one of the most interesting and likable parts of the series
I’m such a downright undying borderlands fan that I even unironically like tiny Tina’s wonder land, but the moment I saw the trailer I knew I would not like this. I was gonna give it the benefit of the doubt but thanks to you I don’t need to.
Nothing unironic about that. They expanded bunkers and badasses with a more in depth character system. Assault on dragon keep was much more borderlands-like, mostly because they kept breaking the in-universe fourth wall, but wonderland felt like it could be its own universe within the main universe.
@@bradencampbell464 I’m just saying that it and borderlands 3(which I also unironically like), doesn’t deserve the hate it gets. Cause at least it’s better than the new tales from the borderlands game. But we don’t talk about that game…
I typically like Jack Black in comedic roles, but the second he started talking in the trailer as Claptrap, my immediate reaction was, "I hate this already." It didn't get any better as the trailer played.
Oh, lord. Could you imagine the comedy punchlines that would've spawned? "The Box Office returns from Borderlands claimed over 9,300,000 lives. National Congress would recognise this terrible tragedy by declaring August 16th as _BORDERLANDS DAY."_ *NEVER FORGET* 16.08.'24
But don't the games go all in on the vulgarity to the point of it seeming immature? Why are they ok with the games being like that but the movie has to be nice and safe?
@@briankelly130Because Hollywood are high on their own farts and are still of the opinion that video games can't have decent stories. Regardless of the fact that games utterly dwarf movies in popularity and sales and have done for 2 decades. That and Hollywood forgot what entertainment is at the same time they lost the book of fresh ideas.
I wonder how much of the movie changed in reshoots. When Roth was first talking about the movie when it was announced, it sounded like it was going to be rated R.
If they had made a film based on Tales from the Borderlands, I would have been intrigued, not that Tales from the Borderlands would even have needed a movie adaptation, it works great, telling the story as it is already. It just felt more real and consequential, than funny shooty bang with a pile of gunwielding action protagonists that kills people in spades without a care.
This might be a weird take, but each actor feels like they’re playing a character who is supposed to be a friend or fan of the character they’re imitating. Like Jack Black as ClapTrap feels like a different claptrap unit who would butt heads with the real Claptrap and Ariana Greenblatt’s Tiny Tina acts more like a kid who’s trying to be friends with Tina while poorly imitating her quirks. Do you see what I mean?
To answer your question what went wrong the studio wanted to Reshoots But Roth said he was done & wanted to focus on Thanksgiving. Then the studio got Tim Miller the director of Deadpool & Terminator Dark Fate to direct the reshoots that would explain the troubled film we got.
This movie has been in development hell for years it was announced in 2020 filmed before TAR came out, had reshoots with Tim Miller, Roth left to do Thanksgiving so I wouldn't be surprised if a lotta behind the scenes tinkering happened especially since I think it was aiming for an R rating too, As someone who played the first two games the humour post the 1st game is incredibly spotty and hearing Brad call it obnoxious is suitably on point I do not know how they expected this to work.
I heard that this movie was completed in 2021. I guess they thought they might get decent enough ticket sales because of all the well known actors. I hope everyone got a good paycheck
Let's be honest, they could have had Scorsese as director. But with Sentient greasetrap Randy as anyone in a position to do anything to the movie it would have turned out bad.
I always hated Hollywood’s condescending attitude towards gamers, in thinking they don’t deserve quality direction or screenwriting, but I guess cackleman in the audience DOES exist.
To be fair, I don't think even he liked the movie and was just there for the easter eggs. Honestly I was kinda looking forward to Brad's review as an outsider looking in. Another youtuber who's whole channel is about Borderlands and not film review watched and ended up saying it's bad.
Krieg, the psycho, was just a DLC character that perhaps most famously was purported to be Tiny Tina's father in fan theories until the developers debunked it. Both Tiny Tina's father and Krieg were tortuously experimented on by Hyperion (the villainous corporation ran by despot Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2), and if that was accidental, it creates a narrative overlap/redundancy, and frankly, once they learned of the fan theory, they should have just ran with it, even if neither character ever realized they were related, as it's a more compelling twist than most of their actual storylines, including Krieg's connection to Maya, which felt half-baked. My hope was that the movie would make sense of the jumbled canon and focus on the concept of the Vault Hunters (it's more than an occupation, as NPC recognized the characters at first glance as VH and certain plot elements focus on VH having abilities--they're more superpowered being or mutant--and at one point one VH is actually rescued from being executed by Lilith by an alien Guardian who says that they will need many more vault hunters for what is to come, presumably a war) and Sirens (an even more explicitly "special" group with even greater powers than VH and a limited supply (only six can exist at once, with a new one being chosen when one dies--Lilith is from the start, Tannis becomes one in BL3)). I'm guessing that doesn't happen.
A big backslide for Eli Roth after Thanksgiving (and a likely return to your worst-of-the year list, which he hasn't made in a while; maybe even a Razzie to boot).
Apparently this was finished by Eli before he went to do Thanksgiving. While he was working on that, this went through some reshoots and now we're here.
I really don't get the ages of the characters in this movie. In the first game lilith and Roland are in their 20-30s so a movie before then like it seems to be they should definitely be young. And why is Tina a grown woman? She was 12 in the second game so should be a frickin baby at this point. And why is Kreige there? The first game had 4 characters you could base a movie off of and Make it pretty fun. My guess is they just googled who were the most popular borderlands characters
I knew everyone was saying this movie was going to suck back when the first trailer came out but I was still hoping for it to be good but after hearing all the reviews those hopes are gone.
Looks like a fan film. I AM a fan of the franchise and have several hundred hours into 3 of the entries. Bloodless/soulless is a good descriptor. I didn’t hate it… but the only reason I would watch it again is to pause and scour the background art. I’ll give it this: it didn’t make the too-common error of trying to cram too much of a 15 year franchise into one movie. There is ONE Big Bad and there could easily have been dozens. So for the “fan service” they were pretty restrained, although there were definitely a few moments added explicitly to mirror game events. The crime is that the elements that really MAKE Borderlands were missing - the art style, the humor, and the amazing music.* Those were replaced by big name, absolutely wasted talent. I’d have loved to see brand new actors who could have disappeared into the roles. (Blanchett and JLC are legends and they did absolutely everything in their power. No notes.) *Yes yes it can be argued that what actually makes Borderlands is mastering its own genre - the looter-shooter. And this movie had neither of those. Not a single chest. (Sure there was shooting but they kept the same guns???) It can be enjoyed. I wish it wasn’t $100 million and was made by a first-timer with a fresh cast. That could have been fun, and maybe could have stood a chance for a sequel.
@@scottneil1187 That's how I felt about Brick. Of all the OG vault hunters, they chose the most boring - wait, is this a hot take? I've never known anyone to main Roland UNLESS you were in a team of 3-4.
For the record, the character jamie lee curtis is playing is kinda weird for the sake of weird in the games. Shes supposed to be an eccentric scientist, but a lot of the time it seems the joke is that she doesnt get things that would be common sense to others.
Ruby Rose would have been perfect for the part to drive home the point that Tannis is not really a likable person. I can only imagine what that version of Tannis would have used the ceiling chairs for.
Apparently Eli told Randy he wasn’t interested in making the movie like Borderlands, he wanted to do a mix of Star Wars and GotG and a whole lot of other things that weren’t Borderlands. And Randy just said okay. What a pair.
As someone that has put well over 3000 hours into the borderlands games I just want to know...why? This do not appeal to the fan base and non fans will prob think this is just weird and bad. Who are the target audience for this?
I have a hard time believing Eli Roth made this, since it doesnt feel like he made this. Possibly because Tim Miller (of Deadpool 1 fame) was in charge of reshoots, possibly because of heavy studio/producer interference, who's to say.
Deadpool is my favourite film in the X-Men franchise, and I cannot believe that the guy who directed a very R-Rated OTT action film would do reshoots with the goal of sanitising another. Everything about this is cursed.
@@NebLleb I mean sounds like he was a hired gun brought in to direct studio notes after Roth left to make Thanksgiving. I doubt Miller had much if any creative input. I'm sure the check was nice though.
I'm not surprised, considering there is SO MUCH PLOT in each borderlands game that to make even ONE of them into a movie would be a task. Given the characters it looks like they tried to mix and match between 1 and 2, so it's like trying to shove 50 pounds of shit into a 10 pound bag.
@@DrErikNefarious So, basically doing what a lot of video game movies were doing back in the day(and still kinda does for some) instead of doing the Arcane style of writing or Super Mario Bros where it’s service to the fans but also to newcomers by not having too much but just enough
You mean the 'plot' that is disregarded on a whim because the writers wanted their characters to look cool? Whine all you want it's fucking stupid that no one acknowledges your Siren characters even though they're treated as a HUGE deal in the series
Saw the trailer for this play before Deadpool & Wolverine and... yikes. I remember thinking 'Oh God they made Claptrap even *more* obnoxious and now he's not even funny, what poor sap got roped into this?" and then being shocked that it was supposed to be Jack Black. Add to that the costumes looking like they came from a Netflix Live Action Anime and I think I'm perfectly happy to not even watch this one while drunk lol
>”come from a Netflix Live Action Anime” Whoa, ease up on Netflix. The costume designs from One Piece is peak and doesn’t deserve being compared undavorably to this garbage
@@neonwolf1205 But that movie wasn’t made by Netflix production. That would be like saying the Bleach and Ruroni Kenshin movies were also made by Netflix despite only being distributed by the company
Spoilers: Krieg isn’t important in the games. He’s just a meme, and artificially popular due to that. He took the place of other, better characters that could’ve potentially been here like Mordecai, Brick, Maya and Peepot.
Why are people mad at Eli Roth? He loves horrible movies, he has vast knowledge of them and borderlands is no exception of a horrible movie! I think he did his job well.... What's that? He's a Horror genre fan, not a fan of horrible movies? Ohh. Well shit.
No way this isn't out of theaters and streaming in 2 weeks like all the other flops that came out this year. There's a weird turnaround clause for studios where if a movie flops it can go to streaming in 2-3 weeks from release.
@spraragen88 I lucked out with Madame Web and saw it to a delightfully empty theater in March (after it first came out on valentines day), so the chance is there
it's been a while since we got a truly bad video game movie,which is weird... You should try the Telltale game,it's a pretty good point-and-click adventure game,so it won't take too much time to beat and it doesn't require knowing the entire franchise to enjoy it.
it takes the stories from the first 2 games and bastardizes them. Only due to the fact that the 2nd game was the series peak, due to nefarious reasons, and is normally what people think of when they talk about Borderlands series. So them shoving in character from part 2 was a shameless marketing gimmick.
Mate, Cate doesn't 'come out unscathed', she's nothing like the character and is twice as old!. Tiny Tina is meant to be insufferable fyi, nobody likes her.
Honestly the age thing doesn't bother me, she looks decent enough for the role. But yeah, character wise, not really Lillith. But yes to Tiny Tina, however, I have a feeling the movie did it FAR FAR WORSE then even in game. End of the day she's an orphan with PTSD giving into mania to escape from her trama. And in her own DLC she's shown most of it is so she can cope with Roland (in game) death by playing a board game with the remaining vault hunters. Though her mannerisms are certainly love or hate, there IS a decent character to be made from that. So yeah, neither actor nor character makes it out unscathed.
In BL1, Lilith had no character. In BL2 all she did was give dry exposition, whine incessantly about Roland getting killed then got kidnapped. In BL3 and TPS she was an insufferable, incompetent jackass. The movie sucks, but Lilith was always a terrible character.
It was visually stunning. I think they succeeded in making it look like a live-action video game, but that robot, man, it takes the lead in the most obnoxious CG character of all time. I think it could've worked if it concentrated more on the world building instead of just glossing past them. But seriously, I'd watch it again (on streaming) for the eye candy.
Well, that's kinda Claptraps character. They're meant to be overly cheerful service bots. Though their comedy is supposed to be they're stuck on a crapsack world over run with psychos that are more then happy to use them for target practice. But still have the same cheerful disposition. However not seeing the movie, I'm sure they've done a terrible job of translating any positives claptrap my have.
I'm thinking this was released to bring in more interest to the game franchise (since Borderlands 4 will be here sometime next year). If that was their goal, they're failing. This isn't an adaptation or an homage, it's an insult. Borderlands is obnoxious, but in a actually entertaining way. This is not.
Whoever cast this movie is stuck 20 years in the past. Most of the actors are too old for the characters they're playing. The average age of the cast is way too high. Gina Gershon would have made a good Moxxie 15 years ago, and Cate Blanchett is about 25 years older than Lilith should be.
Borderlands was an RPG shooter where you build up your choice of character as you like. Skill trees, various powers, and guns guns guns. This movie reeks of Hollywood and was trying to capitalize on wasteland film nostalgia rather than the game itself. The games comedy is definitely obnoxious but not as bad as this and the action can be so fun no matter how tedious travelling is. 0 stars from a borderlands 2 player
So Eli Roth pushed for a hard R since day 1 but the studio didnt want that so they fired him and Hired some one else to do the reshoots so yes this is not Eli Roths version its the studios. They did to it what they did to the justice league movie essentially
I kinda figured the movie was going to suck when I started seeing production pictures. Kinda think it would have been better as an animated movie. It's a shame that it sucks, though, it's definitely a property that could make a good movie in the right hands
So they got Eli Roth, Cate Blanchett and Jack Black together again and *this* was the result? Should have adapted one of the other John Bellairs books--worst case scenario, it still probably would have been more fun to film.
This was SO bad I took to noticing the flubs (like when they open the hatch and you can SEE a crew guy wearing a Coof mask helping them lift it)... can't even call it exquisitely terrible, as that would insinuate it was fun or so bad it's good. It's not. I felt like it was filmed on 2-ply.
The movie feels like a really, really bad remake of "Spacehunter: Adventures on the Forbidden Zone", with Blanchett as Melanie Griffith's character from "Cherry 2000".
I actually had a good time with this movie just to clarify I've never played the games they don't look interesting to me so my view on this is the movie itself but this movie felt like a scfi action B movie from the 80s I got that vibe off it whether your into Eli Roth as a director or not I find he's really good at making fun movie's
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"This year's Pluto Nash." 😂
JESUS!!!
Well, at least Eddie Murphy is not in this and in a better movie
The minute I heard him mention that title, I knew the movie was doomed
I don't know if there's a worse insult to give a film than that.
"This GENERATION'S".
For a guy like Brad who sees everything, that really resonates. That makes this seem less 2016 Suicide Squad and more Oogieloves.
@@ManOutofTime913 True. It stings
This film has gone through development HELL. The original script was by Craig Mazin (who, at the time, was known for writing Scary Movie 3, Scary Movie 4, Superhero Movie and the last two Hangover movies and would go on to create and write Chernobyl and The Last of Us for HBO) and it was so good, it sparked a bidding war. When Lionsgate aquired the rights and hired Eli Roth, he immidiately made so many changes to the script that Mazin’s original work was unrecognizable and he requested to be credited by the pseudonym Joe Abercrombie/Joe Crombie on the film. Roth’s cut was deemed so unwatchable that Deadpool director Tim Miller was brought in to do extensive reshoots (the official reasoning given by the studio was that Roth was too busy filming Thanksgiving to do the reshoots) and Aaron Berg and Chris Bremner (Bad Boys For Life/Bad Boys: Ride or Die), Zak Olkewicz (Bullet Train), Tony Rettenmaier (Space Jam: A New Legacy), Juel Taylor (Creed II), Oren Uziel (Mortal Kombat!2021), and Sam Levinson were apparently brought in to do uncredited rewrites to the script. It’s no shock this movie is awful
All that faffing about for something that ABSOLUTELY isn't that complex. Like if they just wanted to focus Borderlands 1, perfect, buddy comedy with 4 Vault hunters trying to find a mythical vault on a crapsack world. Get some good jokey dialog to slice together some action scenes. Even if it's not deep it probably would have been able to be a good brain off popcorn flick.
2 would have been a bit trickier to directly translate as a movie, maybe do a prequel (NOT a pre-sequel, that already works as it's game) of how the hunters got together and wound up on Pandora together, or Roland founding the Crimson Raiders. Hell, maybe they could have done a do over on BL3 and NOT had the story be a steaming heap of trash. Given what the movie came out to be probably not, but ya know at least would be less to fall from.
"This generation's PLUTO NASH" as an owner of a DVD copy of Pluto Nash; OOOF, daaaaamn.
This felt like a movie where the goal was for people to cosplay as the characters
Ppl already do….cause of the games….
@@edwardosantiago3296 I know, I’m saying the film felt more like brand extension than actually doing something new and interesting with the world or characters
There's a funny premise in there somewhere. Almost like a type of Galaxy Quest movie. Cosplayers are confused with real heroes they are based on, get transported to Pandora and forced to work together and search for 'treasure'.
The funniest part is these characters from the games have always been extremely bare bones to begin with. They had ALOT of room to have fun with accurate or fuck no takes, and somehow didn't care to do either.
“ This Generations Pluto Nash”
I mean considering how bad the box office is for this movie lately. That’s saying a lot.
I've met some big Borderlands fans back when the 2nd game came out. They had tattoos, there was a couple that cosplayed, another even went on to do a voice in the 3rd game...I feel bad for all of them. Condolences y'all!
Heck, I even remember a couple that had claptrap officiate their wedding. I'm guessing they are pissed.
Bad as this was, still nothing on the Artemis Fowl novels. Take plot of Book 1, bit of Books2-4 and the Hero face twist the Main character does half through the novels when he stops being an active villain, is just up front from the beginning. Never was a bad guy.
I would not be surprised if this wins worst Razzie this year.
Madame Web exists.
People still care for the Razzies?
@@hipsterelephant2660 Only the people who make them.
As someone whose played all the games (Tiny Tina’s Wonderlands included), this movie is about as soulless as it gets. Borderlands is what I thought Super Mario Bros was gonna be when it was first announced
Cate Blanchett is a good actress but she's 55 playing someone in their 20s, and Jamie Lee Curtis is 65 playing someone in their early 30s.
I agree. The age ranging looks all sorts of messed up, and this is from someone who plays the games. I'm sad that I will never get to see Betty White playing as Maya the Siren (a character from the second game).
Not too mention Kevin Hart playing Roland, in the game a stoic, no nonsense, tall and lean soldier.
They look good for their age though.
I can’t wait for the sequel with Ian Mackellan as Handsome Jack and Judi Dench as Maya.
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Pure destruction. There is no coming back from this comparison.
Turning Borderlands into a family movie is like turning Deadpool into a family movie.
Exactly. It just doesn’t work. AT ALL
A family movie from the director of hostel, no less
Hostel was a good movie.
EXCEPT Deadpool 2 WAS made into a SUCCESSFUL PG family film (ALONGSIDE the original R rated version)!
You can thank Randy Pitchford for that!
Well, at least THANKSGIVING was fun. Eli Roth is one of those directors I wanna like, he's a smart dude about film history whenever he's on a podcast, and yet as a director, he makes Rodriguez look like Scorsese in terms of a consistently good filmography.
Roth can do horror (sometimes) but he's never been put in charge of a big budget action movie. Also, he was fired 3/4 of the way through and the guy who directed Deadpool had to fill in and do a ton of reshoots. This was a movie 4 years in the making.
Sounds right🤣🤣
Roth is one of these guys who is so knowledgeable about genre cinema i.e. he hosts a great documentary series called history of horror on shudder but outside of Thanksgiving and a clock in its walls his horror movies are his worst work, tho I don't think Eli is all to blame this was going to be rated R something that changed when he was going to direct the Meg as well but unlike that movie he jumped ship something he obviously couldn't do here for some reason.
An Eli Roth film with unlikeable characters? That's impossible!
Given how Brad kept on shots of Tiny Tina, well lets just say it's not entirely to blame on Eli this time.
"It has the most forgettable villain of all time"
That really sucks because Handsome Jack in the second game might have been one of the most interesting and likable parts of the series
I’m such a downright undying borderlands fan that I even unironically like tiny Tina’s wonder land, but the moment I saw the trailer I knew I would not like this. I was gonna give it the benefit of the doubt but thanks to you I don’t need to.
Nothing unironic about that. They expanded bunkers and badasses with a more in depth character system.
Assault on dragon keep was much more borderlands-like, mostly because they kept breaking the in-universe fourth wall, but wonderland felt like it could be its own universe within the main universe.
@@bradencampbell464 I’m just saying that it and borderlands 3(which I also unironically like), doesn’t deserve the hate it gets. Cause at least it’s better than the new tales from the borderlands game. But we don’t talk about that game…
@@jaketucker2559 fair enough. I don't talk about that one either.
"This Generation's Adventures of Pluto Nash"
The only time someone has ever been able to slander Pluto Nash unfairly.
You video is how I learned that movie was made. I don't think a single fan asked for this.
If anything, I wanted it to be animated
Roland is 4" taller than Tiny Tina lol
I typically like Jack Black in comedic roles, but the second he started talking in the trailer as Claptrap, my immediate reaction was, "I hate this already." It didn't get any better as the trailer played.
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Glad I didnt see it
... I take back what I said about It Ends with Us
such a great ensemble someone could think it's a Uwe Boll movie
Eli Roth ripping off uwe boll - wow, that's quite a low bar
Someone check for a Ben Kingsley cameo!
I think uwe boll would have made a more enjoyable movie and that is physically painful for me to type those words
@@jonathangriffin4594 I agree, unfortunately
@@lacolem1 Ben Kingsley would happily Star in this for a paycheck, guaranteed
Gremlin could have stopped at"This movie? Dude.😮💨" And that would have been a sufficient enough summary🤣
As a fan of the games, I have zero idea why they would make 3 NPCs from the game into main characters.
"This generation's Pluto Nash."
BRO. If this had released one week later, it would have released on the same day as Pluto Nash: August 16.
Oh, lord. Could you imagine the comedy punchlines that would've spawned?
"The Box Office returns from Borderlands claimed over 9,300,000 lives. National Congress would recognise this terrible tragedy by declaring August 16th as _BORDERLANDS DAY."_
*NEVER FORGET*
16.08.'24
@@NebLleb Wasn't that the joke on Robot Chicken?
@@KingKool2099 Ayup.
Easy Roth wanted it rated R and have extreme comic violence like the games, Gearbox and Studio wanted a PG-13, The studio won :/ .
But the funniest thing is, the games are Rated M! So it should of been a Rated R movie!
Blood wouldn't have saved this. Just like it didn't save Snyder's new cuts of Rebel Moon.
Yeah the studio got what they wanted, a giant goose egg. I don't even want to pirate this trash out of morbid curiosity.
But don't the games go all in on the vulgarity to the point of it seeming immature? Why are they ok with the games being like that but the movie has to be nice and safe?
@@briankelly130Because Hollywood are high on their own farts and are still of the opinion that video games can't have decent stories. Regardless of the fact that games utterly dwarf movies in popularity and sales and have done for 2 decades. That and Hollywood forgot what entertainment is at the same time they lost the book of fresh ideas.
it's a Uwe Boll movie not directed by Uwe Boll basically
I'll give you a fan's perspective:
"This movie sucked."
Pluto Nash, maybe.
No.
It's this generation's MK: Annihilation
That is accurate 🤣🤣
MK: Annihilation to this movie: “TOO BAD YOU….will die🤣
Nope, Annihilation is funny bad, this is just bad.
@@chasehedges6775 Aw, you beat me to the punch.
I wonder how much of the movie changed in reshoots. When Roth was first talking about the movie when it was announced, it sounded like it was going to be rated R.
The review for this movie is basically how i view the writing, humor, and characters in the actual borderlands games lol
We’ll stick with better video game adaptations. Like, Werewolves Within, thank you very much.
Plus Castlevania, The Last of Us, Super Mario Bros, and Fallout.
Also, I'm surprised to see someone else mention Werewolves Within. That is such a good film, and I didn't even know it was based on a video game.
Werewolf deserved more attention.
Great film with no advertising and only in a handful of theatres for a weekend
My favorite snob catchphrase.
If they had made a film based on Tales from the Borderlands, I would have been intrigued, not that Tales from the Borderlands would even have needed a movie adaptation, it works great, telling the story as it is already. It just felt more real and consequential, than funny shooty bang with a pile of gunwielding action protagonists that kills people in spades without a care.
This might be a weird take, but each actor feels like they’re playing a character who is supposed to be a friend or fan of the character they’re imitating. Like Jack Black as ClapTrap feels like a different claptrap unit who would butt heads with the real Claptrap and Ariana Greenblatt’s Tiny Tina acts more like a kid who’s trying to be friends with Tina while poorly imitating her quirks.
Do you see what I mean?
Looks like it wasn't able to *HOP* past expectations
my bar was set so low it was on the ground. they could have walked over it but instead they dug under it.
But it's Jumanji in space.
To answer your question what went wrong the studio wanted to Reshoots But Roth said he was done & wanted to focus on Thanksgiving. Then the studio got Tim Miller the director of Deadpool & Terminator Dark Fate to direct the reshoots that would explain the troubled film we got.
I can't even deal with this movies existence. I only saw trailers, and I hate absolutely everything about it.
I'm getting The Expend4bles vibes from this for some reason. Maybe it's the Lionsgate effect?
Can't possibly be THAT bad.
What's the point of making a Borderlands movie if you're not gonna have Handsome Jack in it?
He was annoying and I'm glad he's long gone, him and Pagan Min from Far Cry, crap bad guys that everyone mystifyingly love.
@@scottneil1187 You're in the minority on that opinion. Handsome Jack made "Borderlands 2".
Handsome Jack did nothing wrong.
Lilith and Moxie were the real villains all along.
Justice for Jack!
This movie has been in development hell for years it was announced in 2020 filmed before TAR came out, had reshoots with Tim Miller, Roth left to do Thanksgiving so I wouldn't be surprised if a lotta behind the scenes tinkering happened especially since I think it was aiming for an R rating too, As someone who played the first two games the humour post the 1st game is incredibly spotty and hearing Brad call it obnoxious is suitably on point I do not know how they expected this to work.
Lions gate started working on it in 2015.
I heard that this movie was completed in 2021. I guess they thought they might get decent enough ticket sales because of all the well known actors. I hope everyone got a good paycheck
When I saw that Greaselord Randy Pitchford was a producer and Eli Roth from Cabin Fever was directing, I knew this movie was done for
Let's be honest, they could have had Scorsese as director. But with Sentient greasetrap Randy as anyone in a position to do anything to the movie it would have turned out bad.
I always hated Hollywood’s condescending attitude towards gamers, in thinking they don’t deserve quality direction or screenwriting, but I guess cackleman in the audience DOES exist.
To be fair, I don't think even he liked the movie and was just there for the easter eggs. Honestly I was kinda looking forward to Brad's review as an outsider looking in. Another youtuber who's whole channel is about Borderlands and not film review watched and ended up saying it's bad.
Krieg, the psycho, was just a DLC character that perhaps most famously was purported to be Tiny Tina's father in fan theories until the developers debunked it. Both Tiny Tina's father and Krieg were tortuously experimented on by Hyperion (the villainous corporation ran by despot Handsome Jack in Borderlands 2), and if that was accidental, it creates a narrative overlap/redundancy, and frankly, once they learned of the fan theory, they should have just ran with it, even if neither character ever realized they were related, as it's a more compelling twist than most of their actual storylines, including Krieg's connection to Maya, which felt half-baked.
My hope was that the movie would make sense of the jumbled canon and focus on the concept of the Vault Hunters (it's more than an occupation, as NPC recognized the characters at first glance as VH and certain plot elements focus on VH having abilities--they're more superpowered being or mutant--and at one point one VH is actually rescued from being executed by Lilith by an alien Guardian who says that they will need many more vault hunters for what is to come, presumably a war) and Sirens (an even more explicitly "special" group with even greater powers than VH and a limited supply (only six can exist at once, with a new one being chosen when one dies--Lilith is from the start, Tannis becomes one in BL3)). I'm guessing that doesn't happen.
A big backslide for Eli Roth after Thanksgiving (and a likely return to your worst-of-the year list, which he hasn't made in a while; maybe even a Razzie to boot).
Apparently this was finished by Eli before he went to do Thanksgiving. While he was working on that, this went through some reshoots and now we're here.
Cate Blanchett had to take a movie directed by Eli Roth?????
What's wrong with the world!!!
They worked together before, House With A Clock In Its Walls
Eli Roth isn’t flipping burgers for a living as his talent level dictates he should? What is really wrong with the world!
I really don't get the ages of the characters in this movie. In the first game lilith and Roland are in their 20-30s so a movie before then like it seems to be they should definitely be young. And why is Tina a grown woman? She was 12 in the second game so should be a frickin baby at this point. And why is Kreige there? The first game had 4 characters you could base a movie off of and Make it pretty fun. My guess is they just googled who were the most popular borderlands characters
I knew everyone was saying this movie was going to suck back when the first trailer came out but I was still hoping for it to be good but after hearing all the reviews those hopes are gone.
Looks like a fan film.
I AM a fan of the franchise and have several hundred hours into 3 of the entries. Bloodless/soulless is a good descriptor. I didn’t hate it… but the only reason I would watch it again is to pause and scour the background art.
I’ll give it this: it didn’t make the too-common error of trying to cram too much of a 15 year franchise into one movie. There is ONE Big Bad and there could easily have been dozens. So for the “fan service” they were pretty restrained, although there were definitely a few moments added explicitly to mirror game events.
The crime is that the elements that really MAKE Borderlands were missing - the art style, the humor, and the amazing music.* Those were replaced by big name, absolutely wasted talent. I’d have loved to see brand new actors who could have disappeared into the roles. (Blanchett and JLC are legends and they did absolutely everything in their power. No notes.)
*Yes yes it can be argued that what actually makes Borderlands is mastering its own genre - the looter-shooter. And this movie had neither of those. Not a single chest. (Sure there was shooting but they kept the same guns???)
It can be enjoyed. I wish it wasn’t $100 million and was made by a first-timer with a fresh cast. That could have been fun, and maybe could have stood a chance for a sequel.
Exactly, Borderlands=a crap ton of wacky guns, juvenile humour and gorgeous visuals, none of that is here. Also, no damn Mordecai.
@@scottneil1187 That's how I felt about Brick. Of all the OG vault hunters, they chose the most boring - wait, is this a hot take? I've never known anyone to main Roland UNLESS you were in a team of 3-4.
Big fan of 80s apocalyptic action, and even those nasty Italian flicks had more heart.
“Leave the Bronx!”
For the record, the character jamie lee curtis is playing is kinda weird for the sake of weird in the games. Shes supposed to be an eccentric scientist, but a lot of the time it seems the joke is that she doesnt get things that would be common sense to others.
Yeah, she's a bit unhinged due to loneliness too.
@@scottneil1187 that too. Then again, she does go out of her way to be antisocial.
Ruby Rose would have been perfect for the part to drive home the point that Tannis is not really a likable person. I can only imagine what that version of Tannis would have used the ceiling chairs for.
When you think military leader or mercenary you think of kevin hart, of course.
Idris Elba would have done Roland justice.
Eli Roth is that one nerd that thinks he knows what it takes to make a good movie, but he doesn't. Good luck next time, superfan...
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Apparently Eli told Randy he wasn’t interested in making the movie like Borderlands, he wanted to do a mix of Star Wars and GotG and a whole lot of other things that weren’t Borderlands.
And Randy just said okay. What a pair.
I'm not surprised Cate Blanchett was good. She rarely is bad. That woman is made of classy.
Ew Pluto Nash? Dear Lord that's a heck of a comparison. Well, this one sounds like a wait till it shows on streaming watch for me. Thanks Brad!
As someone that has put well over 3000 hours into the borderlands games I just want to know...why? This do not appeal to the fan base and non fans will prob think this is just weird and bad. Who are the target audience for this?
I have a hard time believing Eli Roth made this, since it doesnt feel like he made this. Possibly because Tim Miller (of Deadpool 1 fame) was in charge of reshoots, possibly because of heavy studio/producer interference, who's to say.
Deadpool is my favourite film in the X-Men franchise, and I cannot believe that the guy who directed a very R-Rated OTT action film would do reshoots with the goal of sanitising another. Everything about this is cursed.
@@NebLleb I mean sounds like he was a hired gun brought in to direct studio notes after Roth left to make Thanksgiving. I doubt Miller had much if any creative input. I'm sure the check was nice though.
I'm not surprised, considering there is SO MUCH PLOT in each borderlands game that to make even ONE of them into a movie would be a task. Given the characters it looks like they tried to mix and match between 1 and 2, so it's like trying to shove 50 pounds of shit into a 10 pound bag.
@@DrErikNefarious So, basically doing what a lot of video game movies were doing back in the day(and still kinda does for some) instead of doing the Arcane style of writing or Super Mario Bros where it’s service to the fans but also to newcomers by not having too much but just enough
You mean the 'plot' that is disregarded on a whim because the writers wanted their characters to look cool?
Whine all you want it's fucking stupid that no one acknowledges your Siren characters even though they're treated as a HUGE deal in the series
So much plot?. Vault hunters kill a lot of people and open a vault, wow, loads of plot.
When are you seeing/reviewing the new cut of Caligula? Curious to see what you think. (Our city gets it on friday)
Tim Miller directed the post Strike reshoots
Tim Miller, not TJ Miller.
@@NorthernSeaWitch Thanks but even he couldn't save it from being crushed by It ends with us
Saw the trailer for this play before Deadpool & Wolverine and... yikes. I remember thinking 'Oh God they made Claptrap even *more* obnoxious and now he's not even funny, what poor sap got roped into this?" and then being shocked that it was supposed to be Jack Black. Add to that the costumes looking like they came from a Netflix Live Action Anime and I think I'm perfectly happy to not even watch this one while drunk lol
>”come from a Netflix Live Action Anime”
Whoa, ease up on Netflix. The costume designs from One Piece is peak and doesn’t deserve being compared undavorably to this garbage
@@BigK13372 I mean fair but I was thinking less 'One Piece' and more 'Full Metal Alchemist' lol
@@neonwolf1205 But that movie wasn’t made by Netflix production.
That would be like saying the Bleach and Ruroni Kenshin movies were also made by Netflix despite only being distributed by the company
well it's eli roth... I expect nothing
Now let's all wait for the one guy to make a comment who was actually on ironically surprised
Spoilers: Krieg isn’t important in the games.
He’s just a meme, and artificially popular due to that.
He took the place of other, better characters that could’ve potentially been here like Mordecai, Brick, Maya and Peepot.
I wondered how Eli Roth would do PG-13...
Why are people mad at Eli Roth? He loves horrible movies, he has vast knowledge of them and borderlands is no exception of a horrible movie! I think he did his job well.... What's that? He's a Horror genre fan, not a fan of horrible movies? Ohh. Well shit.
if the film is still there in September with an empty crowd to not see it, hmm....
No way this isn't out of theaters and streaming in 2 weeks like all the other flops that came out this year. There's a weird turnaround clause for studios where if a movie flops it can go to streaming in 2-3 weeks from release.
@spraragen88 I lucked out with Madame Web and saw it to a delightfully empty theater in March (after it first came out on valentines day), so the chance is there
@@TimeofQwertyYour definition of lucky is very odd!.
it's been a while since we got a truly bad video game movie,which is weird...
You should try the Telltale game,it's a pretty good point-and-click adventure game,so it won't take too much time to beat and it doesn't require knowing the entire franchise to enjoy it.
it takes the stories from the first 2 games and bastardizes them. Only due to the fact that the 2nd game was the series peak, due to nefarious reasons, and is normally what people think of when they talk about Borderlands series. So them shoving in character from part 2 was a shameless marketing gimmick.
Nefarious reasons?
You mean all the money Randy embezzled?
Please review Harold and The Purple Crayon.
Of course Eli Roth had little control. He left halfway through.
Mate, Cate doesn't 'come out unscathed', she's nothing like the character and is twice as old!. Tiny Tina is meant to be insufferable fyi, nobody likes her.
Honestly the age thing doesn't bother me, she looks decent enough for the role. But yeah, character wise, not really Lillith.
But yes to Tiny Tina, however, I have a feeling the movie did it FAR FAR WORSE then even in game. End of the day she's an orphan with PTSD giving into mania to escape from her trama. And in her own DLC she's shown most of it is so she can cope with Roland (in game) death by playing a board game with the remaining vault hunters. Though her mannerisms are certainly love or hate, there IS a decent character to be made from that.
So yeah, neither actor nor character makes it out unscathed.
In BL1, Lilith had no character.
In BL2 all she did was give dry exposition, whine incessantly about Roland getting killed then got kidnapped.
In BL3 and TPS she was an insufferable, incompetent jackass.
The movie sucks, but Lilith was always a terrible character.
Your description of the movie fits the games perfectly I guess it's a win for game accurate movies and Borderland fans
Except it isn't game accurate.
It was visually stunning. I think they succeeded in making it look like a live-action video game, but that robot, man, it takes the lead in the most obnoxious CG character of all time. I think it could've worked if it concentrated more on the world building instead of just glossing past them. But seriously, I'd watch it again (on streaming) for the eye candy.
Well, that's kinda Claptraps character. They're meant to be overly cheerful service bots. Though their comedy is supposed to be they're stuck on a crapsack world over run with psychos that are more then happy to use them for target practice. But still have the same cheerful disposition.
However not seeing the movie, I'm sure they've done a terrible job of translating any positives claptrap my have.
Eli Roth must be crying with all the awful reviews pouring in.
I'm thinking this was released to bring in more interest to the game franchise (since Borderlands 4 will be here sometime next year). If that was their goal, they're failing. This isn't an adaptation or an homage, it's an insult. Borderlands is obnoxious, but in a actually entertaining way. This is not.
Whoever cast this movie is stuck 20 years in the past. Most of the actors are too old for the characters they're playing. The average age of the cast is way too high. Gina Gershon would have made a good Moxxie 15 years ago, and Cate Blanchett is about 25 years older than Lilith should be.
Both this and “It Ends With Us” are released in theaters on my birthday.
Borderlands was an RPG shooter where you build up your choice of character as you like. Skill trees, various powers, and guns guns guns. This movie reeks of Hollywood and was trying to capitalize on wasteland film nostalgia rather than the game itself. The games comedy is definitely obnoxious but not as bad as this and the action can be so fun no matter how tedious travelling is. 0 stars from a borderlands 2 player
Obnoxious, unfunny, and nails on a chalkboard? Sounds like they nailed Borderlands.
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I enjoyed Tales From The Borderlands. I hadn’t played any of the main games at that point but Tales was a good story.
I'm a defender of this movie but saying they looked like 'actors in a really well-made porn parody' made me laugh XD
So Eli Roth pushed for a hard R since day 1 but the studio didnt want that so they fired him and Hired some one else to do the reshoots so yes this is not Eli Roths version its the studios. They did to it what they did to the justice league movie essentially
He made 3 quarters of it, it's his, you can tell because it's juvenile and a failure.
My friend is a huge fan of the games and he was PISSED!
Maybe the least surprising thing all year was learning just how bad this movie actually is.
Same
Reminds me of Tank Girl
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I kinda figured the movie was going to suck when I started seeing production pictures. Kinda think it would have been better as an animated movie. It's a shame that it sucks, though, it's definitely a property that could make a good movie in the right hands
I wanted to watch this movie but then I heard Eli Roth was involved
Cate Blanchett is good in anything.
It looks more like a rip off of "Tank Girl," and I'm actually curious about that film more so than this.
"actors on their way to a costume contest" aka any johnny depp movie.
So they got Eli Roth, Cate Blanchett and Jack Black together again and *this* was the result? Should have adapted one of the other John Bellairs books--worst case scenario, it still probably would have been more fun to film.
Idk about fans, but earlier I saw a fan of the games review the film and he gave it a zero.
This was SO bad I took to noticing the flubs (like when they open the hatch and you can SEE a crew guy wearing a Coof mask helping them lift it)... can't even call it exquisitely terrible, as that would insinuate it was fun or so bad it's good. It's not. I felt like it was filmed on 2-ply.
I was planning on ignoring this movie, thank you for giving me further confidence in my choice.
What song did the trailers for this trainwreck use?
The movie feels like a really, really bad remake of "Spacehunter: Adventures on the Forbidden Zone", with Blanchett as Melanie Griffith's character from "Cherry 2000".
Now that you mention it, I can see elements of those movies in this.
I too saw Trap so my “awful movie for the month” limit is already met. Glad I went to see Cuckoo instead
We can all thank Randy Pitchford for basically being the reason why this film sucks
I actually had a good time with this movie just to clarify I've never played the games they don't look interesting to me so my view on this is the movie itself but this movie felt like a scfi action B movie from the 80s I got that vibe off it whether your into Eli Roth as a director or not I find he's really good at making fun movie's