I love watching this route from Manchester Victoria to Liverpool Lime Street as it brings back so many Happy Memories of the years gone by. I'm a Born and Bred Mancunian who has lived in the North East for the past 30 Plus years also my Parents & Family moved from Manchester many moons ago to reside in a picturesque little village called Lowton about 8/9 miles down the East Lancashire Road towards Haydock Park. Every other Saturday Morning i used to board the early train from Darlington to Manchester Victoria and meet up with Mates outside the Station and we would make our way over to Maine Road to watch Gods own Football Team, after the Match they would walk me back to Manchester Victoria Station and i would jump on the Liverpool Lime Street bound train and get off at Newton Le Willows, then i would jump on a bus outside Newton Station which would take me those last 2 miles of my journey to My Parents Home where i would stay overnight before doing the reverse Journey back to the North East the following day (Sunday). When that Darlington to Manchester Train pulled into Victoria Station it always made me feel so good about myself as i knew in my heart that i was back Home with only that short train ride to Newton Le Willows meaning i was back with all My Family, but it was also vice-versa as i had my own Wife & Kids waiting to greet me on my return journey at Darlington Station on the Sunday Afternoon. These days it's easier to drive to the Etihad Stadium usually with 3/4 Grandkids in tow than it would be to take them and myself on the train, it's strange how none of my own 4 Children support Manchester City but all 6 of my Grandchildren are Man City Fanatics.
29:20 St. Helen's Junction. 37:15 Rainhill and the Skew Bridge. The first house on the right past the bridge is called Ashdown and George Stephenson lived there during the construction of this part of the line. My Aunt owned this house and the family congregated in the garden to watch the 150th year commemoration of the Rainhill Steam Trials in 1979 which lasted several days, and included a running replica of Rocket and some of the other engines. An unforgettable experience !
Rainhill is 37 minutes in, with the attractive skew bridge just beyond, one of the many original Liverpool and Manchester Railway structures surviving.
Thanks for uploading this , travelled on that line from Huyton to Edge hill every day for 12 years , also ,(as I now live in NI ), you have solved a mystery for me too . why the track is only going to be quadrupled from Broad green to Huyton . Because the new ( 1970's)road bridge at Queens drive Isn't Long enough and the M62 on ramp cuts the station in half ! short sightedness 70's planning strikes again !!
I did this journey Twice a day in 1990 for six weeks when I was in the Manchester Victoria Signalling School. A 142 off Platform 11, usually Packed, like a tin of Sardines 😊.
Got "bombed" going down whiston bank ,A breeze block came wizzing into the cab,managed to get to lime st in a state of shock, The "specky"said,," just look at the damage to the train!",,never bothered about me!
brilliant video, liked and faved! i was suprised i wasn't standing on the end of roby station signalling to the drivers to give he a 2 tone! once again excellent vid, can't wait for more :)
great vid,i travel this line 100s of times and never see half of this stuff,i remember the end of last summer when we had the floods,and the driver had to keep on getting out to use the lineside phone,very funny,you have to love the liverpool cuttings and tunnels,still un chaned from the steam days.
that was an interesting observation , I never knew this memorial existed , the first of hundreds of thousands to die on the tracks ultimately , I was involved more than ten during my railway service.....................marty
That's a great bit of history, thank you. I read an account of the incident. Huskisson was attending the 15 September 1830 opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. He was run over in a freak accident by Stephenson's "Rocket."
Not actually true, we say he was the first passenger to be killed, or "The first person that mattered"... But there were dozens killed before him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(before_1880)
At 30:50 you can see the first bridge carrying one railway over another in the world. It was part of the St Helens and Runcorn Gap Railway. The bridge was demolished when the line was electrified. Remains of the bridge to the south of the line were demolished to make way for a new housing estate. I don't understand when you have this unique piece of railway history and you just throw it away like that.
Filmed this is August 1987 and again in Sept 1989 from Liverpool Lime St to York and Scarborough, not changed much, well a lot of railway as disappeared
just came over from the Carlisle-to-Newcastle run. When they searched my luggage, they found a lump of coal and kicked me off the train. Anyway, I hope to complete this journey...BTW does this train stop at Tucumcari?
fascinating viewing, railway action doesn't get much more intense than this... however it was bloody annoying that I had to keep on fast forwarding the bits where the video kept on freezing (07.38, 10.25 etc). video editing software is easy to use these days
Newton-le-Willows station at 21:50 was built in 1845. The Earlestown station buildings at 24:33 were built in 1835, and is regarded to be the oldest train station still in use today. These are not the original buildings, they replaced the original 1830 station. I don't know if George Stephenson designed these, I can't find that information, but at 26:37 is the Sankey Viaduct (aka the Nine Arches Viaduct) and that _is_ designed by George Stephenson.
Im gonna be traveling over the whole Liverpool and Manchester route next month. Reason im waiting till then is cause Im riding over the route behind a steam train, Ex LMS Black 5 number 45305 or Ex BR Class 7 pacific number 70013 Oliver Cromwell.
The last 4 minutes are so typical of Lime St access : a somewhat Piranesian landscape, or some underground line found by archeologists after The Big Earthquake, or WW III, who knows…
It sounds like a class 150 or 156. It's odd that there are two non electrified routes to liverpool from manchester, I guess the one via trafford/warrington is faster.
This is the north route, and it's about 15 mins faster than the south/Warrington route now that trans pennine express run the 185 class express to Newcastle from lime street, stopping at MCV (~30 mins compared to 44). The north route was also the first modern railway in the world, and the site of the Rainhill Trials.
It runs to Liverpool Docks via Bootle Junction where it runs parallel for a short distance Merseyrail's Northern Line to Southport. The tunnel and junction you see is part of a Y formation, the other leg of the Y being the junction to the right at 56.02, beyond the station the train stops at after the tunnel you mention. At Bootle Junction there is a link between the docks line and the Northern Line, plus a branch to the disused Aintree line via Bootle. The docks line is regularly used by biomass trains to Drax power station, container traffic and scrap trains. The new class 777s are delivered via the docks line joining the Merseyrail network at Bootle Junction.
Martin Hodgson so the Windsor link must have been wired too, if I remember correctly the line from Picc to Oxford Road was done a long while back but was unused by electric trains, any idea why?
The line to Oxford Road was used by electric trains running to Altrincham on what is now the Metrolink line. The freight terminal at Trafford Park is also electrified so the line through Oxford Road saw electric freight trains even if no electric passenger trains ran until Chat Moss was done.
I love watching this route from Manchester Victoria to Liverpool Lime Street as it brings back so many Happy Memories of the years gone by.
I'm a Born and Bred Mancunian who has lived in the North East for the past 30 Plus years also my Parents & Family moved from Manchester many moons ago to reside in a picturesque little village called Lowton about 8/9 miles down the East Lancashire Road towards Haydock Park.
Every other Saturday Morning i used to board the early train from Darlington to Manchester Victoria and meet up with Mates outside the Station and we would make our way over to Maine Road to watch Gods own Football Team, after the Match they would walk me back to Manchester Victoria Station and i would jump on the Liverpool Lime Street bound train and get off at Newton Le Willows, then i would jump on a bus outside Newton Station which would take me those last 2 miles of my journey to My Parents Home where i would stay overnight before doing the reverse Journey back to the North East the following day (Sunday).
When that Darlington to Manchester Train pulled into Victoria Station it always made me feel so good about myself as i knew in my heart that i was back Home with only that short train ride to Newton Le Willows meaning i was back with all My Family, but it was also vice-versa as i had my own Wife & Kids waiting to greet me on my return journey at Darlington Station on the Sunday Afternoon.
These days it's easier to drive to the Etihad Stadium usually with 3/4 Grandkids in tow than it would be to take them and myself on the train, it's strange how none of my own 4 Children support Manchester City but all 6 of my Grandchildren are Man City Fanatics.
29:20 St. Helen's Junction. 37:15 Rainhill and the Skew Bridge. The first house on the right past the bridge is called Ashdown and George Stephenson lived there during the construction of this part of the line. My Aunt owned this house and the family congregated in the garden to watch the 150th year commemoration of the Rainhill Steam Trials in 1979 which lasted several days, and included a running replica of Rocket and some of the other engines. An unforgettable experience !
Eccles before the electrics, it's amazing how quickly you forget the past. Nice video!
When was that section electrified?
@@carlh429 between 2016 and 2019.
Thanks George, really enjoyed it, brings back memories of driving down the Motorway along side coming out
of Salford/Manchester.
Rainhill is 37 minutes in, with the attractive skew bridge just beyond, one of the many original Liverpool and Manchester Railway structures surviving.
Thanks for uploading this , travelled on that line from Huyton to Edge hill every day for 12 years , also ,(as I now live in NI ), you have solved a mystery for me too . why the track is only going to be quadrupled from Broad green to Huyton . Because the new ( 1970's)road bridge at Queens drive Isn't Long enough and the M62 on ramp cuts the station in half ! short sightedness 70's planning strikes again !!
Very interesting video....very enjoyable....a historic route in our railway heritage....thanks.
Wow very nice
A heritage video as this pioneer railway has at long last been electrified
Not to mention the Ordsall Chord which has allowed you to go from Victoria to Piccadilly
Another excellent vid thanks again for posting. From a retired Railway Bobby.
Very nice video thanks !
Brilliant video. The video was a route learner, and the driver seems to be very confident, Well done driver.
Thanks for posting. I'm going there to see relatives in May 2017.
From Sydney.
That was fantastic. Took me back seventy years Thankyou
I used to live in Station House, Oakley, Bedfordshire, when I was a kid, back in the 1960's.
thanks for posting this george
I did this journey Twice a day in 1990 for six weeks when I was in the Manchester Victoria Signalling School. A 142 off Platform 11, usually Packed, like a tin of Sardines 😊.
Not changed all that much, last went over this route in 1995 with a 47, brilliant video
Got "bombed" going down whiston bank ,A breeze block came wizzing into the cab,managed to get to lime st in a state of shock, The "specky"said,," just look at the damage to the train!",,never bothered about me!
Charming.....
The best thing ever to come out of Manchester: the train to Liverpool.
+Jacques Mertens And 10cc.
oasis is better than this train
This didn’t age well 😭
@@tomwhittick2775 What happened? I'm checking the news. Can't find anything.
brilliant video, liked and faved!
i was suprised i wasn't standing on the end of roby station signalling to the drivers to give he a 2 tone!
once again excellent vid, can't wait for more :)
great vid,i travel this line 100s of times and never see half of this stuff,i remember the end of last summer when we had the floods,and the driver had to keep on getting out to use the lineside phone,very funny,you have to love the liverpool cuttings and tunnels,still un chaned from the steam days.
Really enjoyed this video - thanks for posting.
LUV the video George!!
Thank you much!!
Thanks i enjoyed driving this train to the pool..pity there ain't the station names.- was great tho..
Good work George!!
LUV IT !!
Love to see more of these if you can! Around Bristol or Birmingham would be fab!
CHEERS MATE NICE VIDEO YEEEEAAAH NICE ONE
20:43 is the William Huskisson Memorial - the first person to be injured[subsequently died] from a train related accident
that was an interesting observation , I never knew this memorial existed , the first of hundreds of thousands to die on the tracks ultimately , I was involved more than ten during my railway service.....................marty
That's a great bit of history, thank you. I read an account of the incident. Huskisson was attending the 15 September 1830 opening of the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. He was run over in a freak accident by Stephenson's "Rocket."
Not actually true, we say he was the first passenger to be killed, or "The first person that mattered"... But there were dozens killed before him. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rail_accidents_(before_1880)
At 30:50 you can see the first bridge carrying one railway over another in the world. It was part of the St Helens and Runcorn Gap Railway. The bridge was demolished when the line was electrified. Remains of the bridge to the south of the line were demolished to make way for a new housing estate.
I don't understand when you have this unique piece of railway history and you just throw it away like that.
استمتعت جدا بهذا اللوحة الفنية المفتوحة على مابين المانشيترو بلاد البوول
I used to have a girlfriend from Knotty Ash. The final approach into the station on this vid reminds me of her, cavernous and weathered!
LOL
I guess she's not 'the one that got away' then....?
The famous Chat Moss starts from 12 minutes in.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chat_Moss
22 minutes is Newton-le-Willows
Live not far from clent hills . Still good to go up there . But sadly no donkeys these days .
Feels weird seeing this, the entire route is now electrified.
Thanks for the ride
Filmed this is August 1987 and again in Sept 1989 from Liverpool Lime St to York and Scarborough, not changed much, well a lot of railway as disappeared
just came over from the Carlisle-to-Newcastle run. When they searched my luggage, they found a lump of coal and kicked me off the train. Anyway, I hope to complete this journey...BTW does this train stop at Tucumcari?
Scouser Van Cleef
Channel name: ElectrostarGeorge
Channel Logo: Diesel train.
Amazing. Now I know how to get.
Hi George - you don't by any chance have a video for the Liverpool/Manchester (CLC) route do you?
fascinating viewing, railway action doesn't get much more intense than this...
however it was bloody annoying that I had to keep on fast forwarding the bits where the video kept on freezing (07.38, 10.25 etc). video editing software is easy to use these days
It's usually a Pacer, the Sprinters do the MCV-LDS route.
please write the name of stations, junctions and interlocking posts. Thanks
The building at Newton le Willows looks old. Was it built when the railway was new in 1830? Designed by George Stephenson perhaps?
Newton-le-Willows station at 21:50 was built in 1845. The Earlestown station buildings at 24:33 were built in 1835, and is regarded to be the oldest train station still in use today. These are not the original buildings, they replaced the original 1830 station. I don't know if George Stephenson designed these, I can't find that information, but at 26:37 is the Sankey Viaduct (aka the Nine Arches Viaduct) and that _is_ designed by George Stephenson.
How things have changed since then
wish youtube would sort out its jerky framerate issues
When you become a driver do you watch these videos many times over for the route your going to be driving?
great video 20:43, Huskisson's memorial (first man ever killed by train)
Second best thing...Greatest heavyweight ever is first! Gypsy King!!!
Good, but why is the audio so echoey?
Im gonna be traveling over the whole Liverpool and Manchester route next month. Reason im waiting till then is cause Im riding over the route behind a steam train, Ex LMS Black 5 number 45305 or Ex BR Class 7 pacific number 70013 Oliver Cromwell.
Do some more route to Manchester Victoria from Liverpool lime st
What year was this filmed?
What unit was this, if you can remember please
Sounds like a 150
Before Electrification on that line
The last 4 minutes are so typical of Lime St access : a somewhat Piranesian landscape, or some underground line found by archeologists after The Big Earthquake, or WW III, who knows…
Spiffing hope you are mellow my drillar
Ace.
Could I make a timelapse out of this video withcopyright information from you and the original owner and publish it to my channel?
Такого старья ( в смысле обслуживания путей) я давно не видел на жд... хотя в США есть места и похуже..., но что до транспорта то он хорош.
First stop Eccles - why no station on this route at Salford Central?
Hi, Salford Central is not on this line. You can not get to Liverpool Lime Street if you stop at Salford Central.
what class of train is this
Hang on it's a 156 can tell by the flange and track joints
It sounds like a class 150 or 156. It's odd that there are two non electrified routes to liverpool from manchester, I guess the one via trafford/warrington is faster.
This is the north route, and it's about 15 mins faster than the south/Warrington route now that trans pennine express run the 185 class express to Newcastle from lime street, stopping at MCV (~30 mins compared to 44).
The north route was also the first modern railway in the world, and the site of the Rainhill Trials.
Thanks for that that info. I shall read up on that.
What class are you in?
Also known as the 1105 to 54 route.
yeah sounds more like it
it was from 5.00am to 9.00pm
needs update with wires lol
Sprinters make more noise than the more or less completely silent 319s
Do you know if it is a Super sprinter or just a sprinter?
It sounds like a Sprinter.
Where does the tunnel at 54':27" lead to?
Ian McKinnon I’m not 100% sure but I think it goes underneath Kirkdale depot and then round to Aintree, might not be tho
It runs to Liverpool Docks via Bootle Junction where it runs parallel for a short distance Merseyrail's Northern Line to Southport.
The tunnel and junction you see is part of a Y formation, the other leg of the Y being the junction to the right at 56.02, beyond the station the train stops at after the tunnel you mention.
At Bootle Junction there is a link between the docks line and the Northern Line, plus a branch to the disused Aintree line via Bootle. The docks line is regularly used by biomass trains to Drax power station, container traffic and scrap trains. The new class 777s are delivered via the docks line joining the Merseyrail network at Bootle Junction.
what class is this?
150 sprinter
How did you get permission to do this?!
Is the whole route electrified now?
+tsangpogorge Yes, most of the Victoria to Liverpool and Manchester Airport to Liverpool services are in the hands of Class 319 EMUs now.
i get the train from rainhill around the st helens and liverpool area
Martin Hodgson so the Windsor link must have been wired too, if I remember correctly the line from Picc to Oxford Road was done a long while back but was unused by electric trains, any idea why?
The line to Oxford Road was used by electric trains running to Altrincham on what is now the Metrolink line. The freight terminal at Trafford Park is also electrified so the line through Oxford Road saw electric freight trains even if no electric passenger trains ran until Chat Moss was done.
you wouldn't happen to know what electric rolling stock was used on the Altrincham line pre Metrolink conversion?
class 156
18:13 dangerous
Toshihiro Tanaka Yes that scared me
There was no danger. See the look out with a big flag?
1 hr......ok
Why was that voice all echoey
No commentary, no narration, no explanation, what’s the point?
Not really a route learner video, there is no annotation as to signal types controlling box etc
Good watch though
It's more of a route show off