Josh is right. I'm a Sr. Cybersecurity Engineer for a fortune 500 company and all I know is basic scripts! But if you want that phat 200k+ salary, learn to code.
that makes me feel a lot better because i'm trying to branch between both security and software engineering, and my degree (in progress) is in software engineering, but i'm going to be focusing my certs in security. i've had a few naysayers tell me there's no point because each career is so different but i've also had people tell me it's a smart idea to get a healthy understanding of both if you want to go far in security so, thank you for easing my mind that my strategy is good. as always your videos are informative, direct, and provide receipts to support. much appreciated.
Glad you like the content, and I think what you're doing is great. It's beyond me as to why someone would dissuade you from this. Stacking related, advanced skills like this is how you get ahead. lol
Hey Josh, your videos have been a great help to me! Although I haven't done your course, and I don't have a degree, I've used a lot of your guides on cert studying and labs to get some certs and hands on experience. Your job searching tips also were incredibly helpful. I just landed my first Security job and wanted to say thanks!
Hey Josh, just wanted to say I really appreciate you breaking down the different subfields of security engineering and how much coding is actually involved. Security is my goal after my BSCS degree, thanks again for all your hard work with making this content!
Josh, once again, thank you! This is actually a video I didn't think I needed but I also want to thank the person that asked the question. Currently enrolled in the Software Engineering program (no coding whatsoever) but have a strong head for security related subjects. This helps break it down nice and neat for my potential future career paths.
This is good you are the only Cybersecurity professional who break down the different levels of Coding for each Cybersecurity role. Thank you I just learn today. I’m interested in learning to code as a Cybersecurity beginner.
This is a good list and quite accurate. I would say that the more coding/scripting you know the better. The higher you are on that list the better. Don't really need to go all the way to 7 for much except the software security dev, but try to be closer the the higher end if possible. It will just make life easier.
Hey Josh, can you make a video about the differences between the old Computer Science curriculum at WGU vs the new curriculum? seeing as how you completed that degree and all, I would definitely find it helpful and the in the WGU-CompSci subreddit it's a hot topic whether or not to switch to the new curriculum.
*Puts on gloves* Been doing Muy Thai for a while my guy...lol...Appreciate you on the real! Josh i am one of those weird folks...spent a year as a sys ad, got moved to a sr. sys ad slot, got bumped to ISSM for DOD...just SEC+ and going to WGU working on my degree. Since then i have acquired a few other certs but yeah man...grateful.
Would love to see a video on how you would go about switching from a software engineering career to a cyber career and which field you would target and why. I'm currently a SWE but I can't say I want to do it for years and years lol
I have a basic knowledge of Python, SQL, MySQL and an intermediate knowledge of Linux, Windows, networking and servers. What else do I need to learn to be able to work as a SOC analyst?
It really depends on where you work, but watch the video about my course. Just pretend it's not me selling something and focus on the labs and skills I'm discussing: joshmadakor.tech/cyber
Python seems to be the most recommended language for a lot of current /pursuing IT professionals, particularly for scripting and automation. Do you think that alone is sufficient or are there other languages that you would think are important to get a basic grasp of if pursuing a cyber career?
Hey Josh! I'm glad you're making this video because I'm hoping to land an internship for an entry level Cybersecurity InfoSec job. I would consider myself somewhere between a 3 and a 4 on that scale of coding proficiency. Would that be adequate enough or should I consider honing my skills more before applying?
If you're trying to get into Cyber, that's a great level to be at, considering that most people wanting to get into cyber are scared of coding and are likely around a 2 in most cases. I would say it's not likely you'd ever need anything above a solid 4 unless you're going to dive into one of those niche areas ^^
Cool, so which one of these disciplines is the most fun, takes no work once I'm hired, and pays >$200k starting? Oh and if you don't mind holding my hand and scheduling out a weekly routine for me, getting me an interview at Microsoft, and maybe packing my lunches, I swear I'm a good investment, thanks Josh
For the job, I trained myself up to probably level 6 (Application Development), but on the job, I only ended up need probably a "low" 5 (Intermediate Coding). I was getting 180k base as a contractor at that job
Def watch this video: ruclips.net/video/KydOSdjzvjo/видео.htmlsi=zOBHXPRDungrpG9M It depends on where you want to work. If you want to work in FAANG doing hard, low-level stuff, you probably need to be quite proficient with C. But Generally speaking, if you're able to do leetcode easy problems with Python, that is enough.
Thank you so much! I wasn’t quite sure what I wanted to do with these two languages and if they was even needed for cyber security. I will do my research on leetcode.
Have you ever looked at Zero To Mastery's career paths? I was interested in the software engineer path but utilizing it to build up coding skills for Cybersecurity.
I wonder if theres much crossover at all on top of this answer. Like i wonder if a seasoned programmer will learn the ropes of cyber security quicker than someone with zero programming .
Both of those are Levels 2 to 4 Code Literacy to Basic Coding (Cloud you deal with a lot of automation and JSON, Network Engineering you will likely deal with a lot of SDN - Software Defined Networking)
Hey Josh , does any of the classes at WGU in either the cybersecurity BS or MS, teach you to code ? And if so, will it suffice in being able to perform the job duties or pass the interview process.
I was wondering if you knew any books or video courses that teach how to write secure software(any language doesn't matter) that is beginner level - advanced level.
It depends on how much you synthesize the material. If you went through the coding section pretty thoroughly and practiced a bunch based on what's in the course, probably level 3-4 (code modification/basic coding). To go level 5 and beyond, it takes some intent and practice, but nothing a little time and effort can't overcome :)
Hey josh if I major in IT for a IT bachelor degree can i become a cyber security analyst? Obviously with studying cybersecurity when im not at work or at school
Josh answer the biggest quesiton of all. come fight me, i should have known josh can fight, living in japan he has that samurai sword in him.😂😂😂 what code level did you need for your last job, i think you called it cloud automation engineer?
Hahaha, actually I can't fight at all. I will use pepper spray and run. For the job, I trained myself up to probably level 6 (Application Development), but on the job, I only ended up need probably a "low" 5 (Intermediate Coding). I was getting 180k base as a contractor at that job
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Hi Josh! I was wondering if you have any advice on what career would be good for someone who is creative, introverted, and not very strong in mathematics? I originally wanted to go down the marketing and graphic design route but I don’t think the roi or good salary will be there. I was thinking about getting the cybersecurity degree at WGU but I don’t know if I’m smart enough or if it would match my personality. Thanks in advance
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I guess we fighting lol There is honestly no way to get away from coding or at least understanding how to solve certain issues that come up with python, javascript, Java, etc. You dont need to start out coding but eventually...eventually...you become one of us...
@@zoiks6631 lol its a joke...but today people who have some coding literacy have an advantage over those that tend to shy away from it. There are cases for and against coding being needed in cyber security, but trends are moving more towards knowing some type of coding language.
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Josh is right. I'm a Sr. Cybersecurity Engineer for a fortune 500 company and all I know is basic scripts! But if you want that phat 200k+ salary, learn to code.
What language would you recommend
that makes me feel a lot better because i'm trying to branch between both security and software engineering, and my degree (in progress) is in software engineering, but i'm going to be focusing my certs in security. i've had a few naysayers tell me there's no point because each career is so different but i've also had people tell me it's a smart idea to get a healthy understanding of both if you want to go far in security so, thank you for easing my mind that my strategy is good. as always your videos are informative, direct, and provide receipts to support. much appreciated.
Glad you like the content, and I think what you're doing is great. It's beyond me as to why someone would dissuade you from this. Stacking related, advanced skills like this is how you get ahead. lol
It was Josh playing the piano music in the background. Trust me, I was the piano
lmao
As the recording equipment used to capture the sounds, I can confirm this.
I love this channel! I currently work in GRC, but I love all the awesome walkthroughs and educational videos. This channel is gold
Hey Josh, your videos have been a great help to me! Although I haven't done your course, and I don't have a degree, I've used a lot of your guides on cert studying and labs to get some certs and hands on experience. Your job searching tips also were incredibly helpful. I just landed my first Security job and wanted to say thanks!
Hey Josh, just wanted to say I really appreciate you breaking down the different subfields of security engineering and how much coding is actually involved. Security is my goal after my BSCS degree, thanks again for all your hard work with making this content!
Thanks so much for saying that, I appreciate it! Congrats on getting the best degree, haha :D
Honestly if you are in tech in 2023, just learn to have the ability of basic coding. Lots more opportunities will open up and a lot more pay.
This is 1000% true, serious
Josh, once again, thank you! This is actually a video I didn't think I needed but I also want to thank the person that asked the question. Currently enrolled in the Software Engineering program (no coding whatsoever) but have a strong head for security related subjects. This helps break it down nice and neat for my potential future career paths.
Glad to hear it! And congrats on doing that degree program, it actually looks very cool.
Great video Josh. Ty. There’s no way around it, coding can be a hustle to learn but a great way to secure your future in the tech industry.
Don’t know why ppl are afraid of coding, knowing to program and leveraging that will make you more money, why is y I decided to major in cs
100% this, and congrats on picking CS. Great choice!
Yeah, it seriously helps. It's such a nice tool to have
The way you brake down everything is brilliant
Thank you :D
Most appreciated, I've been wondering about this since my coding skills need some work.
This is good you are the only Cybersecurity professional who break down the different levels of Coding for each Cybersecurity role. Thank you I just learn today.
I’m interested in learning to code as a Cybersecurity beginner.
This is a good list and quite accurate. I would say that the more coding/scripting you know the better. The higher you are on that list the better. Don't really need to go all the way to 7 for much except the software security dev, but try to be closer the the higher end if possible. It will just make life easier.
Hey Josh, can you make a video about the differences between the old Computer Science curriculum at WGU vs the new curriculum? seeing as how you completed that degree and all, I would definitely find it helpful and the in the WGU-CompSci subreddit it's a hot topic whether or not to switch to the new curriculum.
Great content, In SWE also taking cybersecurity certs. I was in a dilemma but this video has explained the coding aspect clearly.
*Puts on gloves* Been doing Muy Thai for a while my guy...lol...Appreciate you on the real! Josh i am one of those weird folks...spent a year as a sys ad, got moved to a sr. sys ad slot, got bumped to ISSM for DOD...just SEC+ and going to WGU working on my degree. Since then i have acquired a few other certs but yeah man...grateful.
Muay Thai is very cool to be honest, haha. Thanks for the comment :)
@@JoshMadakor You are a legend around our parts!
Would love to see a video on how you would go about switching from a software engineering career to a cyber career and which field you would target and why. I'm currently a SWE but I can't say I want to do it for years and years lol
I have a basic knowledge of Python, SQL, MySQL and an intermediate knowledge of Linux, Windows, networking and servers. What else do I need to learn to be able to work as a SOC analyst?
It really depends on where you work, but watch the video about my course. Just pretend it's not me selling something and focus on the labs and skills I'm discussing: joshmadakor.tech/cyber
I really appreciate your content Josh! Thank you!
straightforward and thorough - thank you!
Python seems to be the most recommended language for a lot of current /pursuing IT professionals, particularly for scripting and automation. Do you think that alone is sufficient or are there other languages that you would think are important to get a basic grasp of if pursuing a cyber career?
Good question
python sql and c++
A very accurate analysis.
Honored to hear this!
Hey Josh! I'm glad you're making this video because I'm hoping to land an internship for an entry level Cybersecurity InfoSec job. I would consider myself somewhere between a 3 and a 4 on that scale of coding proficiency. Would that be adequate enough or should I consider honing my skills more before applying?
If you're trying to get into Cyber, that's a great level to be at, considering that most people wanting to get into cyber are scared of coding and are likely around a 2 in most cases. I would say it's not likely you'd ever need anything above a solid 4 unless you're going to dive into one of those niche areas ^^
Fear sometimes hold people back from experiencing something new. As the mind loves saying in the comfort zone.
Cool, so which one of these disciplines is the most fun, takes no work once I'm hired, and pays >$200k starting? Oh and if you don't mind holding my hand and scheduling out a weekly routine for me, getting me an interview at Microsoft, and maybe packing my lunches, I swear I'm a good investment, thanks Josh
lmao, thanks, I appreciate it
Biggest question of all time!
Yeah, tooooooons of ppl asking me this lol
Thanks for your honest answer ! Question : do you know what jobs can you get in cybersecurity regarding coding such as Python,Java,SQL & C+ ?
What do you think of the new WGU BSCS curriculum? They updated it with some new stuff, would love to hear what you think!
Josh what level of coding did you need for your last job at Microsoft, i think it was cloud automation engineeryou called it?
For the job, I trained myself up to probably level 6 (Application Development), but on the job, I only ended up need probably a "low" 5 (Intermediate Coding). I was getting 180k base as a contractor at that job
Perfect 👍🏻 video.
Were you in Mensa as a small child? You are a legit genius.
I’m taking courses for python and C and in eventually C++ do you think this is necessary for cyber security? Help please 🙏🏽
Def watch this video: ruclips.net/video/KydOSdjzvjo/видео.htmlsi=zOBHXPRDungrpG9M
It depends on where you want to work. If you want to work in FAANG doing hard, low-level stuff, you probably need to be quite proficient with C. But Generally speaking, if you're able to do leetcode easy problems with Python, that is enough.
Thank you so much! I wasn’t quite sure what I wanted to do with these two languages and if they was even needed for cyber security. I will do my research on leetcode.
Have you ever looked at Zero To Mastery's career paths? I was interested in the software engineer path but utilizing it to build up coding skills for Cybersecurity.
I wonder if theres much crossover at all on top of this answer. Like i wonder if a seasoned programmer will learn the ropes of cyber security quicker than someone with zero programming .
What about cloud computing or network engineering, out of the two how much coding does either do
Both of those are Levels 2 to 4
Code Literacy to Basic Coding (Cloud you deal with a lot of automation and JSON, Network Engineering you will likely deal with a lot of SDN - Software Defined Networking)
Maybe do a video on software architecture itself
Hey Josh , does any of the classes at WGU in either the cybersecurity BS or MS, teach you to code ? And if so, will it suffice in being able to perform the job duties or pass the interview process.
would it b a good investment to purchase your course if I want to focus on PCI DSS opportunities ?
Speaking of programming...the google cyber course goes real well with the python automation certificate.
Oh nice to know
Whats the python automation certificate ? Is that by Google as well ?
@@jay2004r yes
I was wondering if you knew any books or video courses that teach how to write secure software(any language doesn't matter) that is beginner level - advanced level.
Hey Josh, how can I contact you for help. I thought about doing this about a year ago but I didn’t have the courage to follow through.
What level Would you say during the google cyber security cert get you too ?
It depends on how much you synthesize the material. If you went through the coding section pretty thoroughly and practiced a bunch based on what's in the course, probably level 3-4 (code modification/basic coding). To go level 5 and beyond, it takes some intent and practice, but nothing a little time and effort can't overcome :)
Hey josh if I major in IT for a IT bachelor degree can i become a cyber security analyst? Obviously with studying cybersecurity when im not at work or at school
What level would i need to be at for a digital forensics job?
Thank you for this video
Do you need to be at least 18 to get hired in cybersecurity?
Josh answer the biggest quesiton of all. come fight me, i should have known josh can fight, living in japan he has that samurai sword in him.😂😂😂 what code level did you need for your last job, i think you called it cloud automation engineer?
Hahaha, actually I can't fight at all. I will use pepper spray and run. For the job, I trained myself up to probably level 6 (Application Development), but on the job, I only ended up need probably a "low" 5 (Intermediate Coding). I was getting 180k base as a contractor at that job
The title alone is hilarious because i say fight me then for everything 😂
So the answer is basically yes.
All I’m going to say is
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Print( “Josh Madakor should start his own Tech Start up”)
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Lol Thanks so much. I sort of have a couple businesses but they are content centric, haha
Does course careers teach cybersecurity?
I believe yes
At the very least the fundamentals
Hi Josh! I was wondering if you have any advice on what career would be good for someone who is creative, introverted, and not very strong in mathematics? I originally wanted to go down the marketing and graphic design route but I don’t think the roi or good salary will be there. I was thinking about getting the cybersecurity degree at WGU but I don’t know if I’m smart enough or if it would match my personality. Thanks in advance
Thank you.
COME FIGHT ME! ahaha epic
lmao
I’ve never met a competent software architect lol
Lmao
"Come fight me" 🤣🤣🤣
i wont fight you
are you a Nigerian?
Yes lol. Well, half anyway ^^. And you?
Short answer is yes lol
I would say more yes than no, but it depends :D
Hey, i am video editor, and as a professional i want to say that you are spreading great values but you are lacking in editing. If you have long term goals, and believes in youtube, then i can help you in editing part.
My editing is on point though
@@JoshMadakor if tou think so, then it's fine. Thanks for reply me and all the best for your channel
I guess we fighting lol There is honestly no way to get away from coding or at least understanding how to solve certain issues that come up with python, javascript, Java, etc. You dont need to start out coding but eventually...eventually...you become one of us...
I worked in IAM at a Fortune 500 giant company for many years and know almost no coding, so I guess you lost the fight.
@@zoiks6631 lol its a joke...but today people who have some coding literacy have an advantage over those that tend to shy away from it. There are cases for and against coding being needed in cyber security, but trends are moving more towards knowing some type of coding language.
Having some coding literacy is so useful honestly, even being able to interpret a bit
Should I learn python and then java script?
@@AMM0beatz if you are going into cloud or cybersecurity do python first. If you go into web development, do javascript first
hey man, saw your recommendation on reddit , I just started in the cybersecurity, planning to be a soc analyst , learning with try hack me