@@onthemark2024 they already don’t listen to us and make maps to benefit themselves. They wont be the party in charge forever as history shows. I want to prevent dems or republicans from ignoring us like they currently are able to do by making maps.
Yes of course everybody is political, but a people-led committee doesn't personally stand to benefit in the way that politicians do within the current gerrymandering system. "Yes on 1" would be miles better than what we've got now, especially after repeated Supreme Court stike downs of attempted maps. The current system is corrupt. Let the people lead themselves!
voting yes...would make it easier to be corrupted.... activist and people who claim to have no political intentions....prove that one.... VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1
@@YourMajesty143 you don't understand it's obvious....we won't have that option to take the people to court if issue 1 passes...let the people decide... who's the people?... With what adgenda?...Who will hold them accountable if needed?
Has anyone read the proposed amendment? It’s language is confusing and biased towards defeating the proposal. Frank LaRose up to his usual dirty tricks.
Whenever I have read ANY proposal verbatim, I never could figure out if voting yes or no would be for or against the proposal. Double negatives are used just to make you think you are approving a law, when in fact you are voting against it, or visa versa. There should be a law for clear and precise language in law proposals.
@@onthemark2024Well, that wording's used because that really is the physical difference between the old and proposed new system. Currently Ohio's redistricting group are all politicians voted into roles not specifically attached to the task. The new one counts on everyday people volunteering to be interviewed for a redistricting group.
@@moonpie6315 That's the effect today. If the Republican party moves in a more reasonable direction, more toward the center, it could benefit them as well. It's about REAL competition of ideas.
I am a centrist that leans right. I am for issue 1. I see why republicans are against this issue. However, their reasoning and "solution" is not adequate. Their reason against it is very vague and based on allot of "ifs" that are unsubstantiated. Even in the video at the 3:16 mark he says "Finding 15 people that are un-political, good luck". Guess what, I am for the most part unpolitical and I would be more than happy to use AI to help and be on the committee.
@@gibbostation_7758 Un-political isn't literal. It just means people like my self that don't willingly take a side and blindly follow what one side of the spectrum says. That said, if you must know, I am on the fence as to whether I should throw my vote away voting for Libertarian Candidate Chase Oliver or make it count in some way by voting Trump. I don't think he is the best candidate but he is better than the alternative.
@@finalfant111 Understand, but people like “us” normal voters won’t be on this committee. It will be made up of people who are already in the house. There’s not to many “centrist” in the house or Senate for our state so it’d be hard to find people who are truly “Un political”
Did you purposely leave out the bill is for “proportionality”? Basically intentionally drawing the districts for a desired “fair” outcome. Seems almost like gerrymandering 🤔
The panel is only selected once for each ten year redistricting cycle. That committee is then dissolved once the maps have been approved. Every ten years of redistricting is a new 15 member panel
@@moonpie6315 the need to reconvene a new 15 member panel every 10 years ten years is because census data is used to provide up to date population figures for making representative maps.
Gerrymandered maps allow legislators to remain in power and not represent. They'll never get voted out. An independent election commission should be drawing maps in every state. Vote yes in Ohio. Good luck!
@@yourUncleGrinch explain to us who will hold them responsible when they are found to be unfair...like we did our representatives when the Ohio supreme Court made them go back to the drawing board.
@@breakroom1929 VOTE NO IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ANYONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES ACCOUNTABLE....WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF USSUE 1 PASSES...READ THE ISSUE BALLOTPEDIA... ..UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE ONE WITH WANTING TO TURN OHIO BLUE !
Absolutely better than the GOP who refuses to fix the unconstitutional maps they keep pushing. 7 times the GOP ohio Supreme Court says is unconstitutional. That is beyond worse than taking away their ability to gerrymander the state . Yes from this ohioan@@moonpie6315
@@imuhbuckeye4696 Explain to me when it is found there was corruption within the 5 who's not supposed to have any political influence...how the people will hold them accountable? We would have to hire attorneys Sue them individually...with the representatives we take them to Ohio supreme Court...we did twice ...they had to redo the maps...
@@moonpie6315 Can't allow politicians to draw the maps that suit them best. Gerrymandering is what leads to butt lickers like Jim Jordan. Trump and his corrupt goons are against issue 1. Renacci is against issue 1. That means "yes" for issue 1 is the better option for "we the people"
No for me, who really wants 15 people, not all being voted into position, but being placed, more money for tax payers to pay for "unelected" representatives, what exactly would these unelected people being doing ? Does this take away citizens rights to address the state ? Does it take away the rights of citizens to file lawsuits against administration? Seen something about that in the issue 1
I am voting yes. Our state is the most corrupt state in American (See First Energy bribery scandal that the GOP refuses to address) because they know that they cannot be voted out. Until we have competitive districts, nothing will change.
@@davidellis4084 do you understand if any of those people are found to be corrupt there is no means to hold them accountable like it is now with our representatives who have been to court several times ...if this passes we will not have the protection of the courts....please read the issue until you understand.
@@moonpie6315 Your attempts to keep the heavily gerrymandered districts in place and to continue the rigged (60+%) Super Majority in the Ohio Statehouse is just plain Repressive. The maps have been overturned at least 4 times. Are you afraid of trying to win honestly??? Needing to cheat????
@@moonpie6315 That is one of many ridiculous things I've read here. It sounds like you believe you're saying something insightful, but you really aren't. You're just spit-balling and seeing what nonsense sticks.
@@jeffhess4650 many have no clue what issue 1 means it is written to confuse those as did the abortion issue that I seen many say after they voted they didn't vote the way they intended because they didn't understand the issue ...that's how the Democrats do it!
3:30 Yes, the "democratically-elected" officials who used gerrymandering to keep themselves in office are the ones we should trust to keep everything fair and equal. Makes perfect sense.
No doubt! He has no backbone. His notion on illegals bringing economic growth pitifully sounds like the 19 year old dumb bunny journalists on NPR gushing over all the benefits they will get to give the "migrants". For example, they exclaim, "health care, housing, vaccinations, educations, jobs, food, and so much more." Those teenyboppers haven't worked a hard day in their lives but think they are Oprah. "Hey world, look under your seats! There is free EVERYTHING. Isn't the American economy great?" Yep, that is your Governor DeWine, too, right from his own mouth. Sigh..
He is in his 2nd term, cannot run again. We need to be aware of the upcoming 'candidates in 2026. Some contenders are showing signs of being much more MAGA than not.
Gerrymandered districts creates politicians that answer to lobbyists not the people. They were given several attempts to do it right and they would not do it. If you went to one of the meetings you would have been able to see how they dismissed citizens concerns and refused to use more fairly drawn maps that were available. There is a term limit at the Ohio Statehouse. Our local districts were redrawn to allow one representative to serve another full round because they drew him a new district. These maps are self serving, too easily corrupted and it needs to end.
@@cmegonuts and if this issue passes ...you will get what you deserve...hope you are willing to live in a shit hole like all the other blue states ...stay here and suffer your decisions...I will not.
That's the whole point, and you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker. They want people to fill in no or avoid answering entirely because of how confusing it sounds. They wrote it up like that on purpose because it requires a majority yes to proceed. Any non-votes are just as good as a no.
The largest issue is the selection process for the 15 member board. 5/5/5 is itself NOT representative of Ohio's population. Then there is the added issue of "bipartisan" judges selecting the board members. This will simply result in activist judges and applicants masking their political leanings to fill those "independent" member seats. The amount of screening doesn't matter, just look at jury selections over the past few years. it never fails that after trials are over, jury members come out of the woodworks talking about how they already had their mind made up on the trial before even hearing evidence and making their severe bias known.
I don't think the 5/5/5 is an issue in regards to Ohio population. The goal should be to prevent malicious gerrymandering by either political party to manipulate voting. Having a balance makes sense. And I did a lot of digging to even find the ballot's wording and how this new system works. The judges are selected by political camps for the ballot board. Republicans pick 8 applications and Democrats the same. Then the 8 get sent to the other side to pick 2. So there will be 2 Republican judges, 2 Democrat judges and all screened by the other team. The 4 judge panel then hires a private professional search firm to pool 90 board member options. The judges publically screen & interview options and after picking 45 (15/15/15 political spread), 6 members are finally drawn by lottery. With a 2/2/2 political spread. Then lastly the 6 members the lottery picked decide on the remaining 9 members. Hope that helps. It's a long winded system.
@@ritarae8769 Really? Maybe you need to take a break from doing what it is you do and take a look at what this administration is doing to our country...biden and harris are Democrats! This country is going down the shit hole fast WAKE UP ‼️
No political ties but the judges get to hand-pick the people to draw the new maps lol sounds political to me and I will be voting NO not changing something that has worked for years
Is Ohio so cheap it can't even send a brochure to voters listing what will be on the ballot? I ask because in my 9 years here I have never gotten one single piece of information. Also it's a miracle if I even receive a ballot to vote (disabled) with. And when I do it's so convoluted with horse puckey (kind of like the tax forms) it's obvious the state over employs lawyers. 😒
@@techsavvy2887 Thanks for being so polite to brusselsprout. I was flabbergasted that they are being so disingenuous. We receive multiple advertisements & brochures from a variety of political & apolitical groups, every single election, here in Ohio. I've read & recycled at least 7 different advertisements so far since mid-August and it will increase in the next month.
If the Supreme Court has rejected unfair redistricting maps 7 times then it means the system is working. The laws are already there and are being enforced. I’d be worried if they weren’t rejecting proposed maps. This issue doesn’t just want to change who decides these maps but also overrides current laws already protecting us against gerrymandering. I’m not up for that.
So the current system has historically benefited both parties - whomever was in control at the time. I initially was leaning towards a "yes" until I heard that the commission members can only be removed by the commission. THAT is a problem that will impact voters - maybe worse than the current system. More thought needs to go into this. I agree that change needs to happen - but I don't think this is the best way.
👏 👏 let alone adding a Levy to pay for these 15 people? So I already pay for my elected officials then I pay again for this committee? I would rather pay the levy for the library than this.
@@jimross2101 Glad you understood the reason for this issue ...I been trying to help people understand what it will do to Ohio ....it will turn Ohio blue ...the people who are voting yes either are Democrats or they do not understand why this issue is even on the ballot.
@@moonpie6315how dare ohio turn blue due to equal representation!! Even though the maps would be a 4-5 point favored to republicans due to the fact that ohio will go 5 points to Trump in this election like it did 4 years ago 🙄
@@ObospeedoObviously you think I'm as stupid as many who have no idea why who and why this issue is supported by the NAACP and demonrat outside interests...funding issue 1 with hundreds of thousands of dollars...you picked the wrong one to spew your BS.....I am a very informed voter....I do not watch any msm... which means...my resources are not a part of the evil that wishes to take this country down!
@@Obospeedo Oh and one more thing YES. HOW DARE OHIO TURN BLUE TO BECOME ANOTHER SHIT HOLE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS ....I WILL NOT STOP SPEAKING THE TRUTH OF WHAT THIS ISSUE IS INTENDED TO DO AND YOU KNOW IT ‼️
@@moonpie6315 So if it's more fair you don't actually care right? You just want as much control for Republicans as possible no matter if it's unconstitutional right? Thanks for taking the mask off.
If you're in favor of gerrymandering instead of this because of Democrats, it should be noted that Democrats have benefited off of gerrymandering as well. Republicans abuse it more, tho using gerrymandering in general is corrupt. It shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.
To add, Republican lawmakers in this state very often go against the will of the people. Our state is rife with elected officials already who go against the will of the people. You just have to be honest with the situation that we're in. Citizens desperately need representation if we're ever to see any type of positive change in this state. This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue, even if Democrats tend to back it more. We have a Republican majority here, so. Even if Democrats got in more people have to remember we're a swing state and always have been. There's always been a mix of Republicans and Democrats here. Don't be afraid of your own fellow citizens who vote differently than you do.
The voters should choose their representative, the representatives SHOULDN'T be able to choose their voters. That's not democracy, but it sounds like you don't care about fairness anyway.
@@zildjiandrummer1you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
@@zildjiandrummer1 you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
@@zildjiandrummer1 you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
@@moonpie6315 Democracy means the members of your government are chosen by the citizens in a free and fair election. And in Ohio those elected officials then fight tooth and nail to prevent the rest of the will of the people from being enacted because they really aren’t there for the citizens, they are there to take advantage of the system for personal gains. That goes both ways. But one side is clearly more guilty than the other.
@@moonpie6315 Yep. Just like if Trump would do what's good for the country and bow out so a younger, faster, non-felon candidate run, then the GOP's money would go to whoever ended up replacing him. It's sort of how the parties work. They endorse and help finance their candidates. I was an independent up until MAGA poisoned the country. I grew up watching Trump my whole life. He was famous for inheriting his grandfather's company, bankrupting any business he's started within 5 years unless it turned out to be a con job first, and infidelity. The entertainment factor of The Apprentice was that people were competing to work for the world's most famously failed business personality. The fact that anyone has such a low caliber of what good character is is mind boggling to me. The guy has always been 1 step away from being a criminal for my entire existence and now he is a verified and convicted criminal, with fraud only being one type of conviction he's the proud owner of, and people think he's a viable presidential candidate. Exactly how many tests do you have to fail to become a member of MAGA anyway? All of them?
Fair as in war and love. Pollyanna solution to a partisan problem. Vote No. Elect god fearing members to the Ohio court. Representatives fear the people not their donors in a properly apportioned district.
I won't vote for another convicted businessman (Moreno) that is already spouting nonsense against citizens rights to their own health choices, or rights to their own overtime payment. He's already proving that he just wants to rule, not for peoples rights.
I'm definitely not voting for another convicted businessman. Especially not one who lies to customers, employees, and the Judicial branch. Then shreds evidence. Just NO to Moreno.
Representatives had years to fix this problem and they refused. Ohio is now the worst example of Gerrymandering in the entire country. Issue 1 must pass.
I know ohio citizens, Im one of them, Theres no way! no way! i'd trust jeff with 50 cars in his yard to draw a map OF OHIO, let alone have anything to do with drawing a map that matters. are you crazy? EDIT: Changing this would be very beneficial for our communities. proper representation is important. It sounds like Republican interests are leading the NO vote. I will be voting YES
I wrote software in BASIC when I was a child in the 80's to fix Gerrymandering in Ohio. I Live in Cincinnati which votes overwhelmingly Democrat , but is COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED in congress by a Republican , just like every other Ohio City!
Considering the massive corruption in Ohio exemplified by scandals such as the First Energy bribery scandal where We The People are STILL paying the subsidy FE bought why is a Democratic led state so bad? We might get rid of the GOP corruption plus start to help Ohioans instead of Big Business.
You're not making sense there. Gerrymandering is the MAXIMUM amount of corruption possible within that system, anything besides the current system will be less corrupt.
@@skevoid please read the issue in BALLOTPEDIA read it until you understand...if this passes...there will not be any way to be sure certain interests won't be in the panel of those supposed to be not political influenced...which means activists who been trying to turn Ohio blue can and probably will be in that group and in the other group of people...we will not have any means to hold them accountable as we do our representatives...do you understand?
Thank you, this is the best video I’ve seen on this.
We elect politicians to represent us
Look how well that’s worked out 🙄
Yes in a real world, but they represent themselves, especially in a trump world
@@Obospeedo at least we can vote for or against him/her. If this passes we'll never have a say again.
@@onthemark2024 they already don’t listen to us and make maps to benefit themselves. They wont be the party in charge forever as history shows. I want to prevent dems or republicans from ignoring us like they currently are able to do by making maps.
Politicians who directly benefit from gerrymandering
Yes of course everybody is political, but a people-led committee doesn't personally stand to benefit in the way that politicians do within the current gerrymandering system. "Yes on 1" would be miles better than what we've got now, especially after repeated Supreme Court stike downs of attempted maps. The current system is corrupt. Let the people lead themselves!
voting yes...would make it easier to be corrupted.... activist and people who claim to have no political intentions....prove that one.... VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1
@@YourMajesty143 you don't understand it's obvious....we won't have that option to take the people to court if issue 1 passes...let the people decide... who's the people?... With what adgenda?...Who will hold them accountable if needed?
Stooopid@@moonpie6315
@@moonpie6315we the people will hold them accountable.
@@emmanueluwaje4865 👌
Has anyone read the proposed amendment? It’s language is confusing and biased towards defeating the proposal. Frank LaRose up to his usual dirty tricks.
Whenever I have read ANY proposal verbatim, I never could figure out if voting yes or no would be for or against the proposal. Double negatives are used just to make you think you are approving a law, when in fact you are voting against it, or visa versa.
There should be a law for clear and precise language in law proposals.
And it changes the Ohio Constitution and the Public cannot vote them out. The problem is people don’t do research-hence trump!
"Citizens vs. Politicians" IS some very deceptive language.
@@onthemark2024Well, that wording's used because that really is the physical difference between the old and proposed new system.
Currently Ohio's redistricting group are all politicians voted into roles not specifically attached to the task. The new one counts on everyday people volunteering to be interviewed for a redistricting group.
@@wayIess No thanks! No CHEAT TO GET SEATS. NO GERRYMANDERING! No on 1.
There is no such thing as no political leanings.
@@lukeherdaii9528 thank you !
Trump doesn't like this.
@@negativghostrdr but Kamala does
@@moonpie6315 Anybody who cares about voters selecting politicians rather than the other way around likes this.
@@negativghostrdr anyone who wishes Ohio turns blue will like this that is exactly what this issue will do.
@@moonpie6315 That's the effect today. If the Republican party moves in a more reasonable direction, more toward the center, it could benefit them as well. It's about REAL competition of ideas.
Then vote yes!
I am a centrist that leans right. I am for issue 1. I see why republicans are against this issue. However, their reasoning and "solution" is not adequate. Their reason against it is very vague and based on allot of "ifs" that are unsubstantiated. Even in the video at the 3:16 mark he says "Finding 15 people that are un-political, good luck". Guess what, I am for the most part unpolitical and I would be more than happy to use AI to help and be on the committee.
@@finalfant111 our reason for being against it ...Soros money funded it!
Who are you voting for in the presidential election? Or are you not voting since your “not political”.
@@finalfant111 Soros funded issue 1 ‼️
@@gibbostation_7758 Un-political isn't literal. It just means people like my self that don't willingly take a side and blindly follow what one side of the spectrum says. That said, if you must know, I am on the fence as to whether I should throw my vote away voting for Libertarian Candidate Chase Oliver or make it count in some way by voting Trump. I don't think he is the best candidate but he is better than the alternative.
@@finalfant111 Understand, but people like “us” normal voters won’t be on this committee. It will be made up of people who are already in the house. There’s not to many “centrist” in the house or Senate for our state so it’d be hard to find people who are truly “Un political”
Did you purposely leave out the bill is for “proportionality”? Basically intentionally drawing the districts for a desired “fair” outcome. Seems almost like gerrymandering 🤔
People are always quiet when redistricting benefits their political side, and vocal when it doesn't.
Gerrymandering literally only benefits republicans. No democrat wants to break up the urban vote
I hope that there are term limits on this panel as there should be for politics
The panel is only selected once for each ten year redistricting cycle. That committee is then dissolved once the maps have been approved. Every ten years of redistricting is a new 15 member panel
@@Obospeedo thanks for that info it was very helpful
@@Obospeedo well they wouldn't need them after that now would they 🙄
@@moonpie6315 the need to reconvene a new 15 member panel every 10 years ten years is because census data is used to provide up to date population figures for making representative maps.
@@charlesfairbanks6296 very helpful ..yep...helpful if you don't understand why this is even an issue ....WAKE UP ‼️
Gerrymandered maps allow legislators to remain in power and not represent. They'll never get voted out.
An independent election commission should be drawing maps in every state. Vote yes in Ohio. Good luck!
@@yourUncleGrinch explain to us who will hold them responsible when they are found to be unfair...like we did our representatives when the Ohio supreme Court made them go back to the drawing board.
@@yourUncleGrinch And your analogy does not add up if the people get out and vote .
@@moonpie6315they were told to go back to the drawing board seven times until they just ran out the clock... how's is that being held accountable?
@@dianagross8784 the issue will change what is now ...the issue will turn Ohio blue... remember what I said...that is the plan period.
@@moonpie6315The independent redistricting commission is also subject to the Ohio Supreme Court
Is it "citizens" not politicians? Or "lobbyists" not politicians?
I'm voting YES on Issue 1. Put the power back in the hands of the PEOPLE, not politicians.
Vote Yes.
@@breakroom1929 VOTE NO IF YOU WANT TO BE ABLE TO HOLD ANYONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVES ACCOUNTABLE....WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO THAT IF USSUE 1 PASSES...READ THE ISSUE BALLOTPEDIA...
..UNLESS OF COURSE YOU ARE ONE WITH WANTING TO TURN OHIO BLUE !
@@breakroom1929 Vote No unless you want activists deciding our elections!
Absolutely better than the GOP who refuses to fix the unconstitutional maps they keep pushing. 7 times the GOP ohio Supreme Court says is unconstitutional. That is beyond worse than taking away their ability to gerrymander the state . Yes from this ohioan@@moonpie6315
Yes for me. The fact that the NO signage attempts to confuse and won't stand on it's merits is another sign of corruption
@@imuhbuckeye4696 Explain to me when it is found there was corruption within the 5 who's not supposed to have any political influence...how the people will hold them accountable? We would have to hire attorneys Sue them individually...with the representatives we take them to Ohio supreme Court...we did twice ...they had to redo the maps...
@@moonpie6315 Can't allow politicians to draw the maps that suit them best. Gerrymandering is what leads to butt lickers like Jim Jordan. Trump and his corrupt goons are against issue 1. Renacci is against issue 1. That means "yes" for issue 1 is the better option for "we the people"
No for me, who really wants 15 people, not all being voted into position, but being placed, more money for tax payers to pay for "unelected" representatives, what exactly would these unelected people being doing ? Does this take away citizens rights to address the state ? Does it take away the rights of citizens to file lawsuits against administration? Seen something about that in the issue 1
I am voting yes. Our state is the most corrupt state in American (See First Energy bribery scandal that the GOP refuses to address) because they know that they cannot be voted out. Until we have competitive districts, nothing will change.
@@davidellis4084 do you understand if any of those people are found to be corrupt there is no means to hold them accountable like it is now with our representatives who have been to court several times ...if this passes we will not have the protection of the courts....please read the issue until you understand.
So when it benefits democrats Jerry mandering is okay?
@@moonpie6315 Your attempts to keep the heavily gerrymandered districts in place and to continue the rigged (60+%) Super Majority in the Ohio Statehouse is just plain Repressive. The maps have been overturned at least 4 times. Are you afraid of trying to win honestly??? Needing to cheat????
@@moonpie6315we don't have protection from the courts because the politicians just run out the clock like they did after being rejected seven times
@@moonpie6315 That is one of many ridiculous things I've read here. It sounds like you believe you're saying something insightful, but you really aren't. You're just spit-balling and seeing what nonsense sticks.
That Jim "Bupkis" Renacci opposes Issue 1 should be more than sufficient for any Ohioan paying attention.
@@jeffhess4650 many have no clue what issue 1 means it is written to confuse those as did the abortion issue that I seen many say after they voted they didn't vote the way they intended because they didn't understand the issue ...that's how the Democrats do it!
@@jeffhess4650 meaning NO on issue 1 !
This proposal worked in Michigan, of course the GOP was against, it’s apparent now why. The public in general had input on all the redistricting.
@@chaos0852 we see how Michigan turned out now didn't we!
Lies.
3:30 Yes, the "democratically-elected" officials who used gerrymandering to keep themselves in office are the ones we should trust to keep everything fair and equal. Makes perfect sense.
No out of state money and no to 5 unknown people on board to set new laws for all of us-
Gov Dewine. Needs to go.
No doubt! He has no backbone. His notion on illegals bringing economic growth pitifully sounds like the 19 year old dumb bunny journalists on NPR gushing over all the benefits they will get to give the "migrants". For example, they exclaim, "health care, housing, vaccinations, educations, jobs, food, and so much more." Those teenyboppers haven't worked a hard day in their lives but think they are Oprah. "Hey world, look under your seats! There is free EVERYTHING. Isn't the American economy great?"
Yep, that is your Governor DeWine, too, right from his own mouth. Sigh..
He is in his 2nd term, cannot run again. We need to be aware of the upcoming 'candidates in 2026. Some contenders are showing signs of being much more MAGA than not.
@@antiquegirl6505 watch what you wish for
@@robingaray8321 he's gone in 2025
We vote for the people who draw the maps. That is how your voice is heard. This plan is garbage, as Renacci says, there isn't real independents.
Gerrymandered districts creates politicians that answer to lobbyists not the people. They were given several attempts to do it right and they would not do it. If you went to one of the meetings you would have been able to see how they dismissed citizens concerns and refused to use more fairly drawn maps that were available. There is a term limit at the Ohio Statehouse. Our local districts were redrawn to allow one representative to serve another full round because they drew him a new district. These maps are self serving, too easily corrupted and it needs to end.
@@cmegonuts and if this issue passes ...you will get what you deserve...hope you are willing to live in a shit hole like all the other blue states ...stay here and suffer your decisions...I will not.
First 2 question on that app for them 5 jobs
1. Are you (R) or (D)
Q2. Are you
Male
Female or
?
Sorry, I vote no. It was confusing. I would have voted yes if I knew what I was reading on the ballot.
That's the whole point, and you are falling for it, hook, line, and sinker. They want people to fill in no or avoid answering entirely because of how confusing it sounds. They wrote it up like that on purpose because it requires a majority yes to proceed. Any non-votes are just as good as a no.
@@john_titor1It seemed to make sense to me.
The largest issue is the selection process for the 15 member board. 5/5/5 is itself NOT representative of Ohio's population. Then there is the added issue of "bipartisan" judges selecting the board members. This will simply result in activist judges and applicants masking their political leanings to fill those "independent" member seats. The amount of screening doesn't matter, just look at jury selections over the past few years. it never fails that after trials are over, jury members come out of the woodworks talking about how they already had their mind made up on the trial before even hearing evidence and making their severe bias known.
I don't think the 5/5/5 is an issue in regards to Ohio population. The goal should be to prevent malicious gerrymandering by either political party to manipulate voting. Having a balance makes sense.
And I did a lot of digging to even find the ballot's wording and how this new system works. The judges are selected by political camps for the ballot board. Republicans pick 8 applications and Democrats the same. Then the 8 get sent to the other side to pick 2. So there will be 2 Republican judges, 2 Democrat judges and all screened by the other team.
The 4 judge panel then hires a private professional search firm to pool 90 board member options. The judges publically screen & interview options and after picking 45 (15/15/15 political spread), 6 members are finally drawn by lottery. With a 2/2/2 political spread. Then lastly the 6 members the lottery picked decide on the remaining 9 members.
Hope that helps. It's a long winded system.
For me I'm voting yes for issue 1 to end the gerrymandering the districts that fever Republicans conservatives. Which we had enough of here in Ohio.
Jerry was a Democrat
@@rachelmaurer888 be careful what you wish for obviously you have no idea
Democrats move like locusts. They've ruined LA, Portland, Seattle, Cleveland, Akron. Name one blue city that isn't a degenerate crime scape.
@moonpie6315 stop posting your garbage on every comment. You look like a russian bot!
The Republicans in Ohio are out for themselves period .
@@ritarae8769 Really? Maybe you need to take a break from doing what it is you do and take a look at what this administration is doing to our country...biden and harris are Democrats! This country is going down the shit hole fast WAKE UP ‼️
@@ritarae8769 REPUBLICANS ARE OUT FOR THEMSELVES ❓ TELL ME WHAT THE HELL HAS THE DEMONRATS DONE FOR YOU... UNKESS THAT IS YOU ARE AN ILLEGAL‼️
@@moonpie6315Democrat medication caps made me able to afford both rent and life saving medicine
We need to move to an electoral college system by county. Ohio has 88 counties and 3 are politically important; THAT is a problem!
Good reporting. Shared.
No political ties but the judges get to hand-pick the people to draw the new maps lol sounds political to me and I will be voting NO not changing something that has worked for years
Is Ohio so cheap it can't even send a brochure to voters listing what will be on the ballot? I ask because in my 9 years here I have never gotten one single piece of information. Also it's a miracle if I even receive a ballot to vote (disabled) with. And when I do it's so convoluted with horse puckey (kind of like the tax forms) it's obvious the state over employs lawyers. 😒
You obviously know how to use a computer...so I would say anything you need is at your fingertips.
@@brusselsprout5851 BALLOTPEDIA
@@brusselsprout5851 BALLOT PEDIA
@@techsavvy2887 Thanks for being so polite to brusselsprout. I was flabbergasted that they are being so disingenuous. We receive multiple advertisements & brochures from a variety of political & apolitical groups, every single election, here in Ohio. I've read & recycled at least 7 different advertisements so far since mid-August and it will increase in the next month.
If you cannot be bothered to look up what is on the ballot, you shouldn't vote.
If the Supreme Court has rejected unfair redistricting maps 7 times then it means the system is working. The laws are already there and are being enforced. I’d be worried if they weren’t rejecting proposed maps. This issue doesn’t just want to change who decides these maps but also overrides current laws already protecting us against gerrymandering. I’m not up for that.
What laws protecting us from gerrymandering? Why are Toledo and Cuyahoga in the same district?
So the current system has historically benefited both parties - whomever was in control at the time. I initially was leaning towards a "yes" until I heard that the commission members can only be removed by the commission. THAT is a problem that will impact voters - maybe worse than the current system. More thought needs to go into this. I agree that change needs to happen - but I don't think this is the best way.
Isn't that better than having them removed by political partisans?
@@techsavvy2887 Thank you for using your own brain...if issue 1 passes we are stuck trying to hold anyone accountable.
@@skepcat NO! please read the issue and understand it completely B4 voting .
👏 👏 let alone adding a Levy to pay for these 15 people? So I already pay for my elected officials then I pay again for this committee? I would rather pay the levy for the library than this.
Gerrymandering only benefits one party, the one with rural voters
Voting Yes
NO!
@@jimross2101 Glad you understood the reason for this issue ...I been trying to help people understand what it will do to Ohio ....it will turn Ohio blue ...the people who are voting yes either are Democrats or they do not understand why this issue is even on the ballot.
@@moonpie6315how dare ohio turn blue due to equal representation!! Even though the maps would be a 4-5 point favored to republicans due to the fact that ohio will go 5 points to Trump in this election like it did 4 years ago 🙄
@@ObospeedoObviously you think I'm as stupid as many who have no idea why who and why this issue is supported by the NAACP and demonrat outside interests...funding issue 1 with hundreds of thousands of dollars...you picked the wrong one to spew your BS.....I am a very informed voter....I do not watch any msm... which means...my resources are not a part of the evil that wishes to take this country down!
@@Obospeedo Oh and one more thing YES.
HOW DARE OHIO TURN BLUE TO BECOME ANOTHER SHIT HOLE LIKE ALL THE OTHERS ....I WILL NOT STOP SPEAKING THE TRUTH OF WHAT THIS ISSUE IS INTENDED TO DO AND YOU KNOW IT ‼️
@@moonpie6315 So if it's more fair you don't actually care right? You just want as much control for Republicans as possible no matter if it's unconstitutional right? Thanks for taking the mask off.
You can tell it is political. Look who supports it. How can you find people that aren’t political.
If you're in favor of gerrymandering instead of this because of Democrats, it should be noted that Democrats have benefited off of gerrymandering as well. Republicans abuse it more, tho using gerrymandering in general is corrupt. It shouldn't have been allowed in the first place.
To add, Republican lawmakers in this state very often go against the will of the people. Our state is rife with elected officials already who go against the will of the people. You just have to be honest with the situation that we're in. Citizens desperately need representation if we're ever to see any type of positive change in this state. This isn't a Republican or Democrat issue, even if Democrats tend to back it more. We have a Republican majority here, so. Even if Democrats got in more people have to remember we're a swing state and always have been. There's always been a mix of Republicans and Democrats here. Don't be afraid of your own fellow citizens who vote differently than you do.
It should be ELECTED officials that do this not UNELECTED people that only God knows will make these redistricting decisions.
And you trust untrustworthy politicians who are not for the people?!
The voters should choose their representative, the representatives SHOULDN'T be able to choose their voters. That's not democracy, but it sounds like you don't care about fairness anyway.
@@zildjiandrummer1you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
@@zildjiandrummer1 you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
@@zildjiandrummer1 you don’t seem to understand what I said. As it stands now it is the people that WE ELECTED that are the authority to attempt to redraw voting districts. What the democrats that are in charge of this issue 1 aren’t telling you is that they are growing the government by creating this new arm of government that’s sole purpose will be to redraw districts that favor beurcratic unelected officials that have ZERO accountability to the voters. And they also won’t tell you that redistricting, as it already stands, is checked by the Ohio Supreme Court which also has officials appointed by our elected officials that we can vote out of office if they do stupid stuff.
Vote No! Stop democrat takeover of legislative redistricting. Trump and Vivek have both explained their stance to vote no on issue 1.
This takes away the ability of ANYONE to take over a territory unfairly.
Rennaci is a crook .
If Trump says it’s bad for Ohio then it must be good for Democracy.
@@antonharmacinski276 you have NO idea what " democracy is!"
@@moonpie6315 Democracy means the members of your government are chosen by the citizens in a free and fair election. And in Ohio those elected officials then fight tooth and nail to prevent the rest of the will of the people from being enacted because they really aren’t there for the citizens, they are there to take advantage of the system for personal gains. That goes both ways. But one side is clearly more guilty than the other.
@@antonharmacinski276 like the " democracy" that took biden out and put komila in...that "democracy?"
@@antonharmacinski276 like how Komila got Joey's votes and campaign funds 🙄
@@moonpie6315 Yep. Just like if Trump would do what's good for the country and bow out so a younger, faster, non-felon candidate run, then the GOP's money would go to whoever ended up replacing him. It's sort of how the parties work. They endorse and help finance their candidates. I was an independent up until MAGA poisoned the country. I grew up watching Trump my whole life. He was famous for inheriting his grandfather's company, bankrupting any business he's started within 5 years unless it turned out to be a con job first, and infidelity. The entertainment factor of The Apprentice was that people were competing to work for the world's most famously failed business personality. The fact that anyone has such a low caliber of what good character is is mind boggling to me. The guy has always been 1 step away from being a criminal for my entire existence and now he is a verified and convicted criminal, with fraud only being one type of conviction he's the proud owner of, and people think he's a viable presidential candidate. Exactly how many tests do you have to fail to become a member of MAGA anyway? All of them?
The hunger games !
Fair as in war and love. Pollyanna solution to a partisan problem. Vote No. Elect god fearing members to the Ohio court. Representatives fear the people not their donors in a properly apportioned district.
They’re not scared of the people, they can simply manipulate our district lines to surpass the vote.
Vote NO
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VotE NO
Vote YES!
Vote no!!!
Marilou Run
Get rid of Sherrod Brown.
Drink the kool aid of Moreno. I worked for the man. He’s a criminal.
And replace him with what? Another GOP Far Right extremist that supports a dictatorship?
I won't vote for another convicted businessman (Moreno) that is already spouting nonsense against citizens rights to their own health choices, or rights to their own overtime payment. He's already proving that he just wants to rule, not for peoples rights.
I'm definitely not voting for another convicted businessman. Especially not one who lies to customers, employees, and the Judicial branch. Then shreds evidence. Just NO to Moreno.
@@antiquegirl6505 better than one who is helping thousands of illegals to flood our State !
GOOD! We the people regaining control from the government. End gerrymandering
Just voted YES on issue 1 ❤❤❤
The only thing that keeps the GOP relevant and competitive is gerrymandering!
Name Mission
NO ISSUE ONE
Why
Representatives had years to fix this problem and they refused. Ohio is now the worst example of Gerrymandering in the entire country. Issue 1 must pass.
I know ohio citizens, Im one of them, Theres no way! no way! i'd trust jeff with 50 cars in his yard to draw a map OF OHIO, let alone have anything to do with drawing a map that matters. are you crazy? EDIT: Changing this would be very beneficial for our communities. proper representation is important. It sounds like Republican interests are leading the NO vote. I will be voting YES
No no no issue one
Without gerrymandering the gop would lose the house forever. They are a minority party
The GOP can't win the popular vote .
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Why
I wrote software in BASIC when I was a child in the 80's to fix Gerrymandering in Ohio. I Live in Cincinnati which votes overwhelmingly Democrat , but is COMPLETELY MISREPRESENTED in congress by a Republican , just like every other Ohio City!
Great way to say “I’m an idiot everyone look at me!!!!!”
VOTE NO THESE PEOPLE WANT TO TURN OHIO BLUE! VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1
NO ACCOUNTABILITY MEANS MORE CORRUPTION!
Considering the massive corruption in Ohio exemplified by scandals such as the First Energy bribery scandal where We The People are STILL paying the subsidy FE bought why is a Democratic led state so bad? We might get rid of the GOP corruption plus start to help Ohioans instead of Big Business.
You're not making sense there. Gerrymandering is the MAXIMUM amount of corruption possible within that system, anything besides the current system will be less corrupt.
"screw the voice of the people, elect a tyrant" is how I read that
LOL like the system that is skewed by a corrupt group of politicians is better than letting the people decide.
@@skevoid please read the issue in BALLOTPEDIA read it until you understand...if this passes...there will not be any way to be sure certain interests won't be in the panel of those supposed to be not political influenced...which means activists who been trying to turn Ohio blue can and probably will be in that group and in the other group of people...we will not have any means to hold them accountable as we do our representatives...do you understand?
Vote YES ON ISSUE1💙💙💙💙💙💙💙 no more gerrymandering
NAH!
@@suntzu5836name one reason why
That should be automatic and not a issue that citizens have to vote on...smh
im voting no on issue 1
Why
@@Another_Caesar why not?
@@theconstitutionmatters762because voting no would allow our maps to continue to be gerrymandered