The Muse Model 2, ~$1,700 in 1997. It uses Burr-Brown PCM63P DAC chips, a CS8412 input receiver, DF1700 digital filter, AD846 op amps and had HDCD - Bessel filter & I2S options. This is one of the most respected DACs from the "golden age" of digital audio in the 90's and it still sounds great today, fantastic design from Muse that had rave reviews and comparisons to much more expensive DACs. The Burr Brown PCM63P-K chips, have such a natural and "you're there" sound. Muse's technology has held up very well over the years. The Model 2 is a heavy well built component made in the USA.
Joey, My Aragon D2A2 also has HDCD decoding which i love. Would those CD's still play better on todays $700ish DAC even though todays do not decode HDCD ?
@@adammosciszko1055 No one makes chips capable of running the official HDCD decoder code these days. Microsoft’s Media Player can decode it and send that to a newer DAC. If you're streaming from files there are ways to decode before sending to the DAC. JRiver decodes it on the fly - when playing an HDCD-decoded file ripped from a CD a newer DAC will show it as 24-bit. There are programs which will convert 16/44 HDCD-encoded files to 24-bit files. The encoding is in the audio stream, so if you have a bit-perfect rip of an HDCD the information is retained in the file; lossy compression doesn't keep it.
Burr Brown really knew what they were doing. The 1702's might have taken it a level up even. From my own experience those DAC chips are this good, that there might hardly be any need for anything else. I haven't tried the PS audio FPGA Dac so can't make comparison.
the only person that needs to like the sound of your system is you ;) Don't chase the dragon, or try to keep up with the Jones's. you'll only ever be disappointed.
That’s one of the commonest but dumbest things anyone can say about pretty much anything with different quality tiers. Setting expectations is tricky but without that constant or occasional search and the inevitable trials & errors, finding ways to make those small or huge improvements is all but impossible. Or should we encourage everyone rocking out to Amazon Echos to believe that’s the best it gets?
The first, and really the only, stand-alone DAC I've heard was the original Wadia 2000, back when it first came out in the late 1980's. Back then, it was mind-blowing! Switching from the analog output from a high-end CD player (at the time) and its digital output into the Wadia, the sound went from 2-dimensional to 3-dimensional.
I have an Abbas dac based off the tda1541 and it gives off that romantic character, I actually like it better than my Dave. I’ve gone in the opposite direction of most audiophiles over time, I value tone and timbre more than hearing every little detail.
An older DAC can be competitive with all but the best today. The Philips TDA1541A chip from the 80s can be everything you want if it is well implemented. Sadly 99% of them were implemented using the same reference circuit that now sounds dated. But a few spent the time to get everything done right and it can sound amazing. Natural and transparent and musical. I don't know the Muse DAC the question referred to. My answer would be if you like it, keep it. It might be better than all the stuff you could afford to replace it with.
I like warmer rich sounding dacs (if that makes sense). I noticed some more budget friendly dacs are really improving of late. Before, less expensive dacs could be hard and cold solding (sterile), the type of sound that gives digital audio a bad name.
Had an SP3A -1 pre connect to a D-76 amp powering Dahlquist DQ -10 speakers. Should’ve never sold those two components. They were destined to be classics decades and decades later.
Bur Brown has been TI DACs for some years now. Yamaha uses them. Not so much on Yamaha Aventage lately, I think. I have a 13 year old Aventage that uses one. It is pretty fantastic, still. Comparing to a newer Schiit (AKM) it is a bit better. But warmer? No. More accurate and not harsh at all. The Aventage engineering is holding up great for that part. I think the move from TI to other chip brands is mainly because TI has been terrible at marketing them to audiophiles. So marketing people and leaders move over to AKM or ESS in particular, or to Wolfson or Cirrus Logic. But properly engineered TI DACs are terrific.
DAC sound: - Warm = muffled - Romantic = muffled - Embracing = muffled - Buttery smooth = muffled - Chocolatey smooth = muffled - (insert word here) = muffled Not that muffled is bad but, I like a non harsh, real sounding DAC. Most top chip models have done this for well over a decade, if the analog is well engineered. Let's call that the Sexy DAC! No velvet curtain separating you from your lover.
True, most audio gear seems to be sounding muffled. Try giving the chip a 2-3db extra headroom avoiding overshoot, it might be benificial. And there are no laws which forbid re-engineering a bit here and there in order to open it up to the point where it needs to be closed down a bit. There is so much information and dynamics on a 16 bit 44 khz track, let's try and get 14 bits out of it!
Devils advocate a nice warm dac paired with a modern neutral amp can work magic. Likewise modern dacs on vintage warm amps pair well together too. It’s all about synergy.
But sometimes "muffled" sounds better. I had a "fan made" recording of Tom Petty's 1981 concert from Rosemont IL (Chicago area) which was probably a dub of a dub of a dub. It was highly enjoyable to me for what it was (particularly since I am a big fan of that band). Then I was able to get a lower generation (closer to the original) of the exact same concert, exact same recording, and I didn't enjoy it as much. The new version was sharper and clearer than the one I'd already heard, yet it sounded comparatively "bad" to me. I think what happened was that my ears "knew" what they were supposed to be hearing on the lower fidelity recording, so my brain filled in the lack of sharpness. Then when I heard it more sharply, problems in the recording (not the performance) were evident which diminished the experience for me. Having said all of that, I like the speakers I have, which I consider clean and crisp - Martin Logan Motion 40's. I don't want those to be muffled. But SOME (imperfect) sources sound better with a little added "artificial romance" (aka muffling or smearing) which might be added in the pre-amp or DAC or even the amp.
One of the worst decisions I have made was selling my Marantz CD63 Ki after 20 years of ownership.Detail,warmth and a richness I cannot get back,whatever I do.There was something magic there for sure.If you have gear which sounds good to you...thats all that counts.
I too have a preference for “romantic” and “musical” as well as 3D holography and layered imaging as my favorite attributes. In my experience, I’ve found R2R DACs like the Holo May, to be excellent for these traits. I have also owned a border patrol DAC which had a beautiful musical sound, albeit with less detail than a modern R2R DAC. I can also recommend Cardas cables, Audio Magic fuses, something with vacuum tubes such as my Cary SLP-98, or if you’ve got very sensitive speakers maybe a decware Zen Triode amp. These are all things that add beauty and romance in my experience but not at the expense of losing a lot elsewhere. I’ve heard the BHK amps have a gorgeous sound but I haven’t heard one personally.
I can agree with you here. I currently have a Directstream DAC MK1 but I had a Holo Spring 3 before this. I expected the DS to be better in every way, but I can’t lie they are very different beasts and I think for me, the Holo DAC was a better fit for the bulk of the music I listen to. The Directstream is really a great DAC but it’s more of an accurate and less colored experience. No additional sense of reverb or extended decay my spring had in spades. It also won’t do much to smooth over the flaws of a less than ideally recorded track either. It is transparent and clean. It’s honest and precise in its presentation. It IS pleasant to listen to though, lots of detail but it’s not analytical or etched. I think the Holoaudio non-oversampling mode has the edge for strings and other real instruments and I’ve never heard any delta sigma DAC beat that yet. On the other hand, the Directstream is amazing at anything Electronic in nature, and the bass definitely digs deeper and is tighter. Each have their strengths and weaknesses like anything else. Also, I second your recommendation of audio magic fuses! I think the Synergistic Research fuses are excellent at lowering the noise floor of components, but there’s something about the Audio Magic M2 in my DS that gives it much more of an analog and more natural sound imo. It adds a harmonic richness and meat to the sound that just isn’t there with the Synergistic fuses I tried. Those had tighter bass but were leaner and kinda made the DS more analytical and clinical sounding imo.
Still have a 1990's Rega Planet with it's custom Burr Brown DAC. Not state of the art but great in my bedroom system with a Leben CS300XS and restored Thiel 04a's.
I really started my critical listening on 90s based Dacs with burr brown chips. That is the sound that I still to this day look got. A brand new modern AK4499EX sounds great. But I still think the old PCM1704 sounds soo much more relaxed and enjoyable to listen to music. That smooth as butter sound I look for.
2:46 - "surface noise disembodied from the music" that's what a high-end stylus tip like hyper-elliptical, line contact or Shibata does as it rides deeper in the groove compared to conical/spherical & standard bonded elliptical styli. I use a Vacuum State FVP full-function preamp, doesn't sound "romantic" at all, even though it is all tube, unlike the conrad-johnson PV-10a I once owned & sold.
after being in the industry for 30 years, ive seen way too customers that bought things they were told to buy or bought because it was expensive so thought it was good, its absolute nonsense and no 2 pairs of ears are the same nor do we all listen to the same music. Go listen and buy what you like the sound of, what suits your budget and be happy
I started to mention record noise the other day for the video about speakers disappearing. I don't hear record noise as its own layer, but disembodied from the soundstage. I couldn't hear the pops at first because was listening to this huge wall of sound, while the pops and ticks were only tiny little things coming very specifically from the tweeters. When it becomes just a matter of S/N, such as a crappy record player in the corner, they become unlistenable.
The first time I heard a really good stereo system I was only 11 years old and was blown away ,that was in 1977.i was amazed at the sound ,Then someone threw out an old style stereo home console with vacuum tubes .it's sounded ok until my friend hooke up his speakers to it and all of a sudden .A new dimension of sound came out that we did not hear in his amazing stereo .Then I was bitten by the music bug going down the rabbit hole of sonic excellence.Mixing matching until I got a monster for my bedroom .A 6 speakers in and 8x16 bedroom with a curved ceiling .
@CatFoodDraino I believe they were altec Lansing's with the 90°Horn and I think it was a 12 inch woofer on it and had an amazing wood cabinet and had 2 pots to control mids and highs,I think the horns were alnico magnets .I had a pair of 4311 which I regret ever selling in battleship gray paint.Amazing sounding had more bass than my heresy .Driving them with Sony STRV6 .Regret selling that monster .I had dbx228 and ADC ss115 eq and teac tascam 3 head and pioneer reel to reel I picked out of the trash and fixed it myself for next to nothing ...Sold it all off because I wanted a car .then started going crazy in the 80s and sold everything again ..The CDs just blew away my vinyl .No static and just the hiss of the original master tapes .No worries about burning out horns from clicks and pops and warped records causing woofer excursions
Titan, in Israel, did not state which "modern DACs" he demoed. As good as his DAC sounds, it will not top "high-end modern DACs" (well, there are many, so there might be exceptions). If Israel listened to, for example, an Aesthetix Romulus Eclipse DAC, or an MSB Select DAC, I do not think that he would want to go back to his old DAC. His old DAC is probably very good, and a joy to listen to. But Israel asked about modern, high-end DACs, and the above is the reality of the improvements with truly high-end DACs. Such high-end DACs are a significant upgrade to his old DAC.
I would love to have access to the same setup I had when I fell in love with music years ago. As nice as my system is now I’m not completely convinced it’s so vastly superior, but still that itch persists to actually hear the difference.
And then CD came out... First, how they recorded the CD counts the same as an album so no reason to compare digital to analog. IMHO original recording for albums just plopped on CD are the best. I even preferred cassette tapes and the hiss over albums. Always had turn tables (good ones) pick up bass hits from the speakers when jamming and the dreaded tone arm feedback sending the whole system into orbit. Then there was just walking across the floor. Cassette tapes, I could get the hiss out (Dolby and EQ), take and use in the car, turn up as loud as I wanted and not hear anything but what I was listening to. Then CD came out.....
I have a marantz cda 94 dac from the mid 80’s, I use it daily and still love it. It has the ability to make music sound good. It’s very kind to poorly recorded/mastered music which is most of the music I like. I also have a current chord Hugo dac which I also like but listen to less.
I hope that someday soon I get to experience a truly great audio system that doesn't come at NASA level pricing. There has to be an affordable top shelf sounding system that doesn't require selling a kidney.
@@JJ-no2ob Thanks! I currently listen to music and movies thru Emotiva's cheapest processor and speakers. Schitt Audio Modi-Magni is the source from my PC to a Sony AVR and Realistic Nova 16 speakers at my desk. Both provide pretty darn good sound, but FOMO kicks in often. Maybe, my rigs are better than I think. Thanks again and please have an awesome audio day!
1968 Classical Gas By Manson Williams with Orchestra and Strings My Buddy Floyd Loves This Song 🎶 and Anything By Paco De Lucia He Says He Can Hear All The Detail In The String Plucking I Let Floyd Have At It He Comes Over With His Albums Like Wes Montgomery on The Riverside Label or On The Verve Label Floyd Comes Over I Let Him Turn The Knobs Explore The Graphic E.Q. and To See This 82 Year Old Amish Man Just Listening To Music is Just a Joy Indeed He Is So Sensitive To The Music He Goes Through My Record Collection and He Finds Albums i Haven’t Heard in Years Floyd Just Sits There and You Can Tell He is a True Lover of Music Sometimes He Has The E.Q. In The Most Wacky Way Yet It Sounds Great It’s Always Good To Get a Fresh Pair of Ears 👂 I Don’t Know About Romantic Yet Floyd Has Had a Love ❤️ Affair With My Sound System Floyd Brings Me The Best Beef Jerky and Dried Fruits His Berry Juice 🥤 and Pies 🥧 By His Daughters Are The Best Paul Has Put Me To Sleep My Old Lady Crashed about a Hour Ago Time To Cash In My Chips and Put Another Log 🪵 On The Fire 🔥 and Get All The Dogs Off The Bed …..🛌
I keep wondering which physical parameters change undistorted sound to "dreamy" and "holographic" and "romantic". Last time I checked, holographic was an optical principle.
That is not the case with a ‘romantic’ sounding DAC or phono preamplifier. Even bad recordings sound good with it. With high resolution DAC and preamplifiers bad recordings sound unpleasant.
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The Muse Model 2, ~$1,700 in 1997. It uses Burr-Brown PCM63P DAC chips, a CS8412 input receiver, DF1700 digital filter, AD846 op amps and had HDCD - Bessel filter & I2S options. This is one of the most respected DACs from the "golden age" of digital audio in the 90's and it still sounds great today, fantastic design from Muse that had rave reviews and comparisons to much more expensive DACs. The Burr Brown PCM63P-K chips, have such a natural and "you're there" sound. Muse's technology has held up very well over the years. The Model 2 is a heavy well built component made in the USA.
Joey, My Aragon D2A2 also has HDCD decoding which i love. Would those CD's still play better on todays $700ish DAC even though todays do not decode HDCD ?
@@adammosciszko1055 No one makes chips capable of running the official HDCD decoder code these days. Microsoft’s Media Player can decode it and send that to a newer DAC. If you're streaming from files there are ways to decode before sending to the DAC. JRiver decodes it on the fly - when playing an HDCD-decoded file ripped from a CD a newer DAC will show it as 24-bit. There are programs which will convert 16/44 HDCD-encoded files to 24-bit files. The encoding is in the audio stream, so if you have a bit-perfect rip of an HDCD the information is retained in the file; lossy compression doesn't keep it.
Burr Brown really knew what they were doing. The 1702's might have taken it a level up even. From my own experience those DAC chips are this good, that there might hardly be any need for anything else. I haven't tried the PS audio FPGA Dac so can't make comparison.
Yeah but does it have romance?
the only person that needs to like the sound of your system is you ;)
Don't chase the dragon, or try to keep up with the Jones's. you'll only ever be disappointed.
That’s one of the commonest but dumbest things anyone can say about pretty much anything with different quality tiers.
Setting expectations is tricky but without that constant or occasional search and the inevitable trials & errors, finding ways to make those small or huge improvements is all but impossible. Or should we encourage everyone rocking out to Amazon Echos to believe that’s the best it gets?
I'm assuming you are not familiar with what the phrase 'chase the dragon' means!? 😮
"you'll only ever be disappointed."
or broke.
The first, and really the only, stand-alone DAC I've heard was the original Wadia 2000, back when it first came out in the late 1980's. Back then, it was mind-blowing! Switching from the analog output from a high-end CD player (at the time) and its digital output into the Wadia, the sound went from 2-dimensional to 3-dimensional.
TDA1541a is a nice sound - love my DIY build (powered by batteries and supercapacitors for a modern vibe in that sense).
I have an Abbas dac based off the tda1541 and it gives off that romantic character, I actually like it better than my Dave. I’ve gone in the opposite direction of most audiophiles over time, I value tone and timbre more than hearing every little detail.
Btw you ever do custom builds?
An older DAC can be competitive with all but the best today. The Philips TDA1541A chip from the 80s can be everything you want if it is well implemented. Sadly 99% of them were implemented using the same reference circuit that now sounds dated. But a few spent the time to get everything done right and it can sound amazing. Natural and transparent and musical. I don't know the Muse DAC the question referred to. My answer would be if you like it, keep it. It might be better than all the stuff you could afford to replace it with.
Nakamichi cdp-2 with tda1541 is best sounding cd player with this dac in stock form.
I like warmer rich sounding dacs (if that makes sense). I noticed some more budget friendly dacs are really improving of late. Before, less expensive dacs could be hard and cold solding (sterile), the type of sound that gives digital audio a bad name.
Had an SP3A -1 pre connect to a D-76 amp powering Dahlquist DQ -10 speakers. Should’ve never sold those two components. They were destined to be classics decades and decades later.
I remember Bur Brown DAC are warmer sounding but no one uses them anymore.
Bur Brown has been TI DACs for some years now. Yamaha uses them. Not so much on Yamaha Aventage lately, I think.
I have a 13 year old Aventage that uses one. It is pretty fantastic, still. Comparing to a newer Schiit (AKM) it is a bit better. But warmer? No. More accurate and not harsh at all. The Aventage engineering is holding up great for that part.
I think the move from TI to other chip brands is mainly because TI has been terrible at marketing them to audiophiles. So marketing people and leaders move over to AKM or ESS in particular, or to Wolfson or Cirrus Logic. But properly engineered TI DACs are terrific.
Texas Instruments bought them in 2000. They still make great DACs. They cost more, so aren't used as much in consumer gear.
Miss my Nakamichi head unit with dual burr brown DACs .
DAC sound:
- Warm = muffled
- Romantic = muffled
- Embracing = muffled
- Buttery smooth = muffled
- Chocolatey smooth = muffled
- (insert word here) = muffled
Not that muffled is bad but, I like a non harsh, real sounding DAC. Most top chip models have done this for well over a decade, if the analog is well engineered.
Let's call that the Sexy DAC! No velvet curtain separating you from your lover.
True, most audio gear seems to be sounding muffled. Try giving the chip a 2-3db extra headroom avoiding overshoot, it might be benificial. And there are no laws which forbid re-engineering a bit here and there in order to open it up to the point where it needs to be closed down a bit. There is so much information and dynamics on a 16 bit 44 khz track, let's try and get 14 bits out of it!
Devils advocate a nice warm dac paired with a modern neutral amp can work magic. Likewise modern dacs on vintage warm amps pair well together too. It’s all about synergy.
But sometimes "muffled" sounds better. I had a "fan made" recording of Tom Petty's 1981 concert from Rosemont IL (Chicago area) which was probably a dub of a dub of a dub. It was highly enjoyable to me for what it was (particularly since I am a big fan of that band). Then I was able to get a lower generation (closer to the original) of the exact same concert, exact same recording, and I didn't enjoy it as much.
The new version was sharper and clearer than the one I'd already heard, yet it sounded comparatively "bad" to me. I think what happened was that my ears "knew" what they were supposed to be hearing on the lower fidelity recording, so my brain filled in the lack of sharpness. Then when I heard it more sharply, problems in the recording (not the performance) were evident which diminished the experience for me.
Having said all of that, I like the speakers I have, which I consider clean and crisp - Martin Logan Motion 40's. I don't want those to be muffled. But SOME (imperfect) sources sound better with a little added "artificial romance" (aka muffling or smearing) which might be added in the pre-amp or DAC or even the amp.
One of the worst decisions I have made was selling my Marantz CD63 Ki after 20 years of ownership.Detail,warmth and a richness I cannot get back,whatever I do.There was something magic there for sure.If you have gear which sounds good to you...thats all that counts.
OMG so much subjectivity...
yeah you're definitely in the wrong place for anything else..... or sanity for that matter 😂
@@maffs6270 thank you :-) I should be more careful when I click on FB links...
I too have a preference for “romantic” and “musical” as well as 3D holography and layered imaging as my favorite attributes. In my experience, I’ve found R2R DACs like the Holo May, to be excellent for these traits. I have also owned a border patrol DAC which had a beautiful musical sound, albeit with less detail than a modern R2R DAC. I can also recommend Cardas cables, Audio Magic fuses, something with vacuum tubes such as my Cary SLP-98, or if you’ve got very sensitive speakers maybe a decware Zen Triode amp. These are all things that add beauty and romance in my experience but not at the expense of losing a lot elsewhere. I’ve heard the BHK amps have a gorgeous sound but I haven’t heard one personally.
I can agree with you here. I currently have a Directstream DAC MK1 but I had a Holo Spring 3 before this. I expected the DS to be better in every way, but I can’t lie they are very different beasts and I think for me, the Holo DAC was a better fit for the bulk of the music I listen to. The Directstream is really a great DAC but it’s more of an accurate and less colored experience. No additional sense of reverb or extended decay my spring had in spades. It also won’t do much to smooth over the flaws of a less than ideally recorded track either. It is transparent and clean. It’s honest and precise in its presentation. It IS pleasant to listen to though, lots of detail but it’s not analytical or etched. I think the Holoaudio non-oversampling mode has the edge for strings and other real instruments and I’ve never heard any delta sigma DAC beat that yet. On the other hand, the Directstream is amazing at anything Electronic in nature, and the bass definitely digs deeper and is tighter. Each have their strengths and weaknesses like anything else. Also, I second your recommendation of audio magic fuses! I think the Synergistic Research fuses are excellent at lowering the noise floor of components, but there’s something about the Audio Magic M2 in my DS that gives it much more of an analog and more natural sound imo. It adds a harmonic richness and meat to the sound that just isn’t there with the Synergistic fuses I tried. Those had tighter bass but were leaner and kinda made the DS more analytical and clinical sounding imo.
For me it is Nakamichi cdp-2e with tda1541 dac chip inside. Beautiful, rich, musical, liquid, layered and “analog” like sound.
Still have a 1990's Rega Planet with it's custom Burr Brown DAC. Not state of the art but great in my bedroom system with a Leben CS300XS and restored Thiel 04a's.
Audio Note without a doubt
I really started my critical listening on 90s based Dacs with burr brown chips. That is the sound that I still to this day look got. A brand new modern AK4499EX sounds great. But I still think the old PCM1704 sounds soo much more relaxed and enjoyable to listen to music. That smooth as butter sound I look for.
An exemplar for the stasis of consumer audio technology.
2:46 - "surface noise disembodied from the music" that's what a high-end stylus tip like hyper-elliptical, line contact or Shibata does as it rides deeper in the groove compared to conical/spherical & standard bonded elliptical styli.
I use a Vacuum State FVP full-function preamp, doesn't sound "romantic" at all, even though it is all tube, unlike the conrad-johnson PV-10a I once owned & sold.
How much is that stylus?
I bet $3069.
R2R all the way.
after being in the industry for 30 years, ive seen way too customers that bought things they were told to buy or bought because it was expensive so thought it was good, its absolute nonsense and no 2 pairs of ears are the same nor do we all listen to the same music. Go listen and buy what you like the sound of, what suits your budget and be happy
Romantic, sounds like a turntabel talking😂
I started to mention record noise the other day for the video about speakers disappearing. I don't hear record noise as its own layer, but disembodied from the soundstage. I couldn't hear the pops at first because was listening to this huge wall of sound, while the pops and ticks were only tiny little things coming very specifically from the tweeters. When it becomes just a matter of S/N, such as a crappy record player in the corner, they become unlistenable.
The first time I heard a really good stereo system I was only 11 years old and was blown away ,that was in 1977.i was amazed at the sound ,Then someone threw out an old style stereo home console with vacuum tubes .it's sounded ok until my friend hooke up his speakers to it and all of a sudden .A new dimension of sound came out that we did not hear in his amazing stereo .Then I was bitten by the music bug going down the rabbit hole of sonic excellence.Mixing matching until I got a monster for my bedroom .A 6 speakers in and 8x16 bedroom with a curved ceiling .
Are you referring to the Altec A6?
@CatFoodDraino I believe they were altec Lansing's with the 90°Horn and I think it was a 12 inch woofer on it and had an amazing wood cabinet and had 2 pots to control mids and highs,I think the horns were alnico magnets .I had a pair of 4311 which I regret ever selling in battleship gray paint.Amazing sounding had more bass than my heresy .Driving them with Sony STRV6 .Regret selling that monster .I had dbx228 and ADC ss115 eq and teac tascam 3 head and pioneer reel to reel I picked out of the trash and fixed it myself for next to nothing ...Sold it all off because I wanted a car .then started going crazy in the 80s and sold everything again ..The CDs just blew away my vinyl .No static and just the hiss of the original master tapes .No worries about burning out horns from clicks and pops and warped records causing woofer excursions
Titan, in Israel, did not state which "modern DACs" he demoed.
As good as his DAC sounds, it will not top "high-end modern DACs" (well, there are many, so there might be exceptions).
If Israel listened to, for example, an Aesthetix Romulus Eclipse DAC, or an MSB Select DAC, I do not think that he would want to go back to his old DAC.
His old DAC is probably very good, and a joy to listen to. But Israel asked about modern, high-end DACs, and the above is the reality of the improvements with truly high-end DACs. Such high-end DACs are a significant upgrade to his old DAC.
I did, he haven't read the ones I listed.
which is understandable.
I would love to have access to the same setup I had when I fell in love with music years ago. As nice as my system is now I’m not completely convinced it’s so vastly superior, but still that itch persists to actually hear the difference.
You should remind your viewers that, over time your stereo will teach what to listen for.
And then CD came out... First, how they recorded the CD counts the same as an album so no reason to compare digital to analog. IMHO original recording for albums just plopped on CD are the best. I even preferred cassette tapes and the hiss over albums. Always had turn tables (good ones) pick up bass hits from the speakers when jamming and the dreaded tone arm feedback sending the whole system into orbit. Then there was just walking across the floor. Cassette tapes, I could get the hiss out (Dolby and EQ), take and use in the car, turn up as loud as I wanted and not hear anything but what I was listening to. Then CD came out.....
I have a marantz cda 94 dac from the mid 80’s, I use it daily and still love it. It has the ability to make music sound good. It’s very kind to poorly recorded/mastered music which is most of the music I like. I also have a current chord Hugo dac which I also like but listen to less.
Maybe EE school should pair with literature institutes to teach romanticism to engineers, because the IEEE still hasn't caught up.
I hope that someday soon I get to experience a truly great audio system that doesn't come at NASA level pricing. There has to be an affordable top shelf sounding system that doesn't require selling a kidney.
Emotiva or Schiit Audio might fit the experience you’re after
@@JJ-no2ob Thanks! I currently listen to music and movies thru Emotiva's cheapest processor and speakers. Schitt Audio Modi-Magni is the source from my PC to a Sony AVR and Realistic Nova 16 speakers at my desk. Both provide pretty darn good sound, but FOMO kicks in often. Maybe, my rigs are better than I think. Thanks again and please have an awesome audio day!
1968 Classical Gas
By Manson Williams with
Orchestra and Strings
My Buddy Floyd
Loves This Song 🎶 and
Anything By
Paco De Lucia He
Says He Can Hear All
The Detail In The String
Plucking
I Let Floyd Have At It
He Comes Over With His
Albums Like
Wes Montgomery on
The Riverside Label or
On The Verve Label
Floyd Comes Over
I Let Him Turn The Knobs
Explore The Graphic
E.Q. and To See This
82 Year Old Amish Man Just Listening To Music is Just a Joy Indeed He Is
So Sensitive To The Music
He Goes Through My
Record Collection and
He Finds Albums i Haven’t
Heard in Years Floyd
Just Sits There and
You Can Tell
He is a True Lover of
Music
Sometimes He Has
The E.Q. In The Most Wacky Way Yet It Sounds
Great
It’s Always Good To Get a
Fresh Pair of Ears 👂
I Don’t Know About
Romantic Yet
Floyd Has Had a
Love ❤️ Affair With
My Sound System
Floyd Brings Me
The Best Beef Jerky and
Dried Fruits
His Berry Juice 🥤 and
Pies 🥧 By His Daughters
Are The Best
Paul Has Put Me To
Sleep
My Old Lady Crashed about a Hour Ago
Time To Cash In My
Chips and Put Another
Log 🪵 On The Fire 🔥 and Get All The Dogs Off The Bed …..🛌
chocolatey highs...
True words!
I keep wondering which physical parameters change undistorted sound to "dreamy" and "holographic" and "romantic". Last time I checked, holographic was an optical principle.
it depends on your LSD microdosing.
@@yxyk-fr😂😂😂
Well, it's difficult to describe auditory sensations. I'd recommend listening to a good system somewhere, maybe you are then able to understand.
that´s a good one. I think its all about taste, what´s right for me might not work for you and that´s fine.
how does a recording taste ?
I'm not eager to put my tongue on a vinyl or polycarbonate disc....
he may not be crazy [[ but his cpumtry sure is
Antisemite much?
The romance is ok with good recordings but the second a shit recording comes on the romance is OVER. 😢
That is not the case with a ‘romantic’ sounding DAC or phono preamplifier. Even bad recordings sound good with it. With high resolution DAC and preamplifiers bad recordings sound unpleasant.
@@_Sam62 that's the GIGO principle...
What's next ?
LSD DAC ?
Poppers DAC ?
Heroin DAC ?
I like DACs with a warm vinyl sound.
you're team vinyl ? so no leather ?
Better power supply design and full size components will always sound better than SMD junk
Smd = Suck My Dinosaur.
I'm sure all the stray capacitance and inductance, as well as extra ESR, must be good. Somehow.
Keep our parts whole !!!
/s
Why would you need a DAC?
I don't know if, like us youngs, he can decode binary streams at 1.5Mbps with his head.
...you only ask a question like that if you haven't heard a really good DAC yet. Try it!
@@mango6052 what do you mean by "good" ?
How do you define it and quantify and qualify and measure and compare it ?
I rather enjoy the ring DAC in my 25 year old Arcam CD23.
Wtf was that about - what is a dac?
the reverse of an adc
God bless Palestine.
Never knew there was a DAC by this name. An explosive dac😊
Remember the rest of the world too, first 2 days in ukraine over 30,000ppl died... Peace worldwide brothers and sisters
@Error2username Ukraine should be annexed by Russia.
@@Error2username
I cant believe there are people who praise "leaders" that ki.ll innocent cute children. This world is governed by the devil.
Not seeing any evidence of that for the last 5 decades