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  • Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
  • Welcome to Master Saga Season 6! ‪@Farfa‬ and ‪@Nyhmnim‬ are back to compete in another round robin version of Saga. Each week all three of us will open packs before dueling each other to win prizes for the next episode. This time, though, we’ve changed several rules to mix things up!
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Комментарии • 699

  • @Farfa
    @Farfa Месяц назад +1602

    STOP CALLING IT THE FARFA WHEEL

  • @mak4715
    @mak4715 Месяц назад +702

    Oh the farfa wheel got buffed

  • @geiseric222
    @geiseric222 Месяц назад +585

    I appreciate Farfa channeling his inner Cimo and saving twin twisters for the next game

    • @thatoneLerrydude
      @thatoneLerrydude Месяц назад +63

      That traumatized me, he could just win.

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +15

      To be fair, similarly, Gage threw his match with Doug by putting Legion on the board, so, I guess what goes around and all that.

    • @geiseric222
      @geiseric222 Месяц назад +37

      @@Sassaparilla I’m just confused on what he thought was going to happen.
      Like twin twister is duck a good card versus dragunity but he let him extend for no reason

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem Месяц назад +1

      @@geiseric222 Ikr? Worst case he stops a 7.

    • @ms77619
      @ms77619 Месяц назад +2

      Doesn’t he just chain the trap if he activates twin twisters?

  • @LeoWell303
    @LeoWell303 Месяц назад +190

    Spoilers below:
    Farfa: Rolls up with an insane Frightfur extra deck, complete with Cross-Sheep and Guardian Chimera (even if the main deck was kind of poopy, only 1 Wings and 1 Vendor and 1 Patchwork is sadge)
    Dzeeff: Rolls up with the worst deck we've seen this season.
    Farfa: Somehow goes 0-2
    Dzeeff: Somehow goes 2-0
    Make it make sense.

    • @MiyaoMeow588
      @MiyaoMeow588 Месяц назад +56

      If I had a nickel for every time Doug went 2-0 with the worst deck in the room...

    • @NovusIgnis
      @NovusIgnis Месяц назад +12

      Nah, it definitely wasn't the worst deck of the season. It might not have been the pretties looking thing, but it was far from the worst.

    • @stevenashley27
      @stevenashley27 Месяц назад +1

      Literally the story of the season

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Месяц назад +8

      @@NovusIgnis
      I would argue it’s up there. Maybe better than like… Farfa’s disaster decks. The deck is a bricky mess and the payoff isn’t even all that good. Doug somehow bricked with it once in all 6 games.

    • @valonyaver600
      @valonyaver600 Месяц назад +9

      Aside from the obvious twin twisters play, why didnt farfa just crash chimera into geh in the second game? It was gonna die anyway if doug attacked it on his turn so there was literally 0 reasons not to attack with chimera and destroy geh with it, and this wouldve saved him from having to go -2 to out it with paparazzi later.

  • @Evil_Florida
    @Evil_Florida Месяц назад +220

    It’s so hilarious that Doug and Nym both went back to their week one deck but only added Pank, meanwhile Farfa playing constructed Freightfur

    • @geiseric222
      @geiseric222 Месяц назад +72

      Don’t worry Farfa wasn’t interested in winning so it evened out

    • @thatoneLerrydude
      @thatoneLerrydude Месяц назад +32

      And still lost.

    • @Iceyia
      @Iceyia Месяц назад +31

      AND STILL LOST I CANT

    • @goldengrimlock
      @goldengrimlock Месяц назад +6

      "Constructed Frightfur"

    • @wellimjustsayinn2074
      @wellimjustsayinn2074 Месяц назад +5

      Constructed frightful that is so bad it lose to 1 negate. To be fair frightful is not really playable without the hand trap and turn 2 staple card. Also he have like almost no toy vendor engine which is like the most important one to go infinite with this deck

  • @malna6220
    @malna6220 Месяц назад +234

    That first duel was actually absolut peak. Especially Gage with that Transverser redemption. Anime stuff right there.

    • @cuttlefish6839
      @cuttlefish6839 Месяц назад +7

      Farafa could have won that game too if he made cross sheep, instead of the other link 2. He pots of greed searches cat goes into kraken ss dolphin from grave with cross sheep. Kraken send dragunity synchro. Cat gets back the poly he milled earlier. Using kraken and dolphin goes into sabertooth revive kraken.
      Oh nvm gage had a negate for it

    • @LemonAide132
      @LemonAide132 Месяц назад

      His character arc came full circle.

    • @MiyaoMeow588
      @MiyaoMeow588 Месяц назад +20

      ​@@cuttlefish6839how Farfa actually could've won was using the twin twister on the equipped dragunity. that way gage wouldn't have had a 3rd monster for transverser

    • @SavoryParty
      @SavoryParty Месяц назад +1

      I know right

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      and protagonist winning beacuse his opponent was way to greedy/gimmicky/bad is also very on theme

  • @richardroberts1212
    @richardroberts1212 Месяц назад +81

    This is Farfa, This is his wheel. There are many like it, but this one is his.
    His wheel is his best friend. It is his life. He must master it as he must master his life.
    Without him, his wheel is useless. Without his wheel, he is useless. He must spin his wheel true. He must spin straighter than his enemy who is trying to duel him. He must spin the wheel before the dzeef spins him, he will...
    Also going forward Im pasting this on every duel til the season ends. Nim, doug you guys can spin a triangle or a shuffle a cube. Wheel belongs to farfa. 🤣😂

  • @Grinn__
    @Grinn__ Месяц назад +208

    I love how the banning process for choosing farfa's bans in his collection was just hypothetical "if" scenarios that never happened

  • @NintendoMasterNo1
    @NintendoMasterNo1 Месяц назад +150

    As a Fluffal player this episode was traumatic

    • @Simelineon
      @Simelineon Месяц назад +19

      first time? always happens when fluffal is involved.

    • @alexthekidd7918
      @alexthekidd7918 Месяц назад +3

      Man gave me a headache

    • @Coffee_Chief
      @Coffee_Chief Месяц назад +5

      I'm super curious to know what was the play there. To me it just seemed that after the synchro summon it was an uphill battle and honestly who knows wtf does Dragunity do. Transverser was just so unlucky tbh and maybe using Twister to prevent the summon of the continuous monster could've helped.

    • @zaleww5824
      @zaleww5824 Месяц назад +7

      bro sending sabres instead of chain killed me ngl

    • @ether3896
      @ether3896 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Coffee_ChiefSend chain gets you poly you can ns dolphin to bait the negate whether or not it works there's still stuff other than set pass

  • @TheMasterBlaze
    @TheMasterBlaze Месяц назад +195

    Gage pronoucing the Legendary Spear Areadbhair as "A Red Dread Bear" takes a substantial amount of years off my life.

    • @hemoma37
      @hemoma37 Месяц назад +17

      i know its clearly "a red bear"

    • @foramagi8677
      @foramagi8677 Месяц назад +12

      Unironically know it cause of FE3H

    • @OhitsONnow
      @OhitsONnow Месяц назад +4

      so how *do* you pronounce it?

    • @Druid-T
      @Druid-T Месяц назад +5

      ​​@@foramagi8677 Fire Emblem as a whole is very diverse in where it pulls its weapons (and classes) from, up there with Castlevania. Don't forget, 3H isn't even the first time Celtic Myth was pulled from to name weapons in FE

    • @alonsonestebanam5558
      @alonsonestebanam5558 Месяц назад +4

      Yo, gage has bear hands?

  • @numimio
    @numimio Месяц назад +56

    Thank you Farfa for NEVER USING TWIN TWISTER which COUNTERED HIS ENTIRE PLAY.

    • @PhoenixLance13
      @PhoenixLance13 Месяц назад +15

      In Farfa's defense I dont think it crossed his mind since the synchros he could make just didn't out the Chimera. But yeah, he still should've immediately fired Twister. If the roles were reversed, Farfa would be blasting Gage about it nonstop.

    • @meathir4921
      @meathir4921 Месяц назад +12

      ​@@PhoenixLance13Denying the Synchro deck Tuner access is like basic YGO 101

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +2

      @@PhoenixLance13 theres no defending Farfa here, he was just way to greedy for no reason other than trying to metagame and keep infor for 1 whole game because they would see his decklist at the end of the episode no matter what

    • @EggOfNobleArms
      @EggOfNobleArms Месяц назад +6

      Fellas, it's just a funny little series. Don't "defend" anyone, don't "bash" anyone. Just sit back and enjoy entertainment. You don't need to play Yugioh vicariously through them.

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +4

      @@EggOfNobleArms wow, you must be fun to be around

  • @kodierkrieger6822
    @kodierkrieger6822 Месяц назад +70

    Farfa stared directly at a board with 1 piece of backrow removal as his only interaction, a synchro player's board with 2 non-tuners and a tuner in the backrow, and voluntarily decided that stopping any play Gage could make and searching with Chain was a worse option than letting Gage make any potential synchro 6, 8, 9, 11, link 2 + monster, or link 3 play he might have pulled and being unable to interact with it. Fucking why.

    • @Slash-XVI
      @Slash-XVI Месяц назад

      because it doesn't stop anything as long as Gage hasn't used the trap effect. Activating Twin targeting the backrow tuner and any other cards prompts the chain from the trap to summon the tuner. Resolving the chain the tuner gets summoned anyway and one other backrow gets destroyed.

    • @kodierkrieger6822
      @kodierkrieger6822 Месяц назад +2

      @@Slash-XVI Using the trap locks you into Dragunitys the rest of the trun, and, notably, uses the trap effect if he thought Gage might need to equip stuff and combo more to win that turn through Dragunity synchros.

    • @user-yz6fd1yn4l
      @user-yz6fd1yn4l 27 дней назад

      ​@@kodierkrieger6822the he wouldve chained it the twister when he tries to equip from graveyard to pop both the trap and spell

  • @jesusrodriguezbadell6248
    @jesusrodriguezbadell6248 Месяц назад +77

    Farfa at 1-7? Give the man some Mathmech

    • @MrDanno
      @MrDanno Месяц назад +4

      With his luck so far this season, I don’t even know if that’d help him

    • @dhantefranklin336
      @dhantefranklin336 Месяц назад +4

      Yeah, limited the damn BLS, too. Really sucks man.

    • @neocyndaquil
      @neocyndaquil Месяц назад +3

      1-9 next week

    • @petiteexplication6249
      @petiteexplication6249 Месяц назад +3

      1-9 the first few weeks he legit didnt have good options like the mermail pulls etc... and banning monk was probably not the right move they should have just limited it

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      @@MrDanno with how bad he plays this season, I dont even know if that help him you mean

  • @Droanux
    @Droanux Месяц назад +43

    In which farfa gets offered the gates to heaven but divebombs into the tunnel

  • @jest5837
    @jest5837 Месяц назад +30

    That Pank you crafted really carried you in this episode, Doug. How dare you!

  • @berserkangel2282
    @berserkangel2282 Месяц назад +55

    Farfa...
    1. Summons Chimera under best conditions
    2. Accidentally adds back poly
    3. Places Chimera in tranverser column
    3. Top decks best interruption for the scenario.
    4. Gage threatens three bodies onto the board
    5. Farfa doesnt use twin twister to destroy the dragunity in s/t zone....
    6. Farfa bad

    • @ezemagic
      @ezemagic Месяц назад +6

      fr

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +4

      100% fax

    • @Zeroyue622
      @Zeroyue622 Месяц назад +7

      also he did not fire scythe turn one to interrupt

    • @ms77619
      @ms77619 Месяц назад +1

      they're playing live with decks and cards they never use anywhere else. give them a break dude. do you really need to list all that out? jesus

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      @@ms77619 he does
      you are mad about facts, instead of learning and getting better you are salty
      sad

  • @TrueBlueMcgoo
    @TrueBlueMcgoo Месяц назад +15

    Doug had no right to win this week and somehow he pulled it off. The disbelief at the end was so perfect.

  • @MiyaoMeow588
    @MiyaoMeow588 Месяц назад +74

    Its funny, even the Master Swordsman being put to 1 means the BLS deck isnt completely dead. If Farfa manages to accidentally accrue more generic ritual support, it'll be fine
    GAGE PLAY SPIRITS!!!!!!

  • @raygonzales2208
    @raygonzales2208 Месяц назад +98

    2020 rules revision (also known as the benten ruling) makes it so that if a card is removed from the location it was originally sent to, it will not trigger. The link monster didn't destroy the dragunity synchro because it was destroyed then banished before it could trigger

    • @MagiRemmie
      @MagiRemmie Месяц назад +2

      Is that an OCG ruling or a Yugioh general ruling? I vaguely remember this but only from my OCG friends.

    • @raygonzales2208
      @raygonzales2208 Месяц назад +8

      @@MagiRemmie yugioh

    • @nekonyansensei
      @nekonyansensei Месяц назад +1

      @@Ray_SB Mystic tomato has to be sent to the GY - that's not the same scenario at all

    • @MagiRemmie
      @MagiRemmie Месяц назад

      @@nekonyansensei His comment is gone, did he delete it?

    • @ConspoAlt
      @ConspoAlt Месяц назад +8

      ohhh its this ruling. it came up in one of the quizzes in MD- theres a trap hole that destroys a card, sends it to the gy, and then banishes it, and it makes it so mirrorjade doesnt trigger

  • @geoveliz9046
    @geoveliz9046 Месяц назад +10

    I’m not feeling so well right now kind of going through a bit of a rough patch but seeing saga pop up on my feed and getting to watch it made me feel a little better, thanks guys

  • @sawuwu3108
    @sawuwu3108 Месяц назад +10

    farfa my dude you’re killing me
    not using scythe first turn
    not using twin twisters last turn
    like what did we think was going to happen my dude

  • @andrewponder3855
    @andrewponder3855 Месяц назад +14

    Farfa: somehow manages to get two loses again.
    Me: *he can't keep getting away with it!*

  • @Skios
    @Skios Месяц назад +11

    RE: the FNAF chat - the idea actually came from the critical response to an earlier game about a family of beavers running a lumber mill. The critic pointed out that the characters looked and moved like creepy animatronics, and he decided to make his next game based on that concept.

  • @Eli1Dont1Lie
    @Eli1Dont1Lie Месяц назад +88

    I think crafting the card from the single pull is fine, but does that single pack of gouki now lock you from going back into it? With the number of times you can go into a pack rule?

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +9

      He can go into it one more time

    • @kaiserdragon7233
      @kaiserdragon7233 Месяц назад +20

      It should?.... In theory, it's a good balance with the card pacts. Yeah, you probably get the best card in the pact or use it to unlock a better pack, but you are now locked out of it. Making your decision a lot harder.

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem Месяц назад +14

      Yes. He has one more try but that used one of his tries.

    • @thescandinavianclown9057
      @thescandinavianclown9057 Месяц назад +6

      This definitely seems to be the best solution

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +3

      YESSS, omg you are so goated for this, absolute facts, this is such a neat usage of rules and makes it somewhat balanced in a sense, thank you for this comment hope they see it

  • @Syrinfox
    @Syrinfox Месяц назад +15

    Gage is still a master of pulling staples this week who remembers when Pank was played in decks almost as often as handtraps. But wait they added the brand spanking new shino cards to their pack already yet the Darkworld and Stardust support still aren't put in a pack? Come on Konami. How poetic that after Farfa gave Gage such a hard time about Transverser columns Farfa loses to Gage via Transverser.

  • @Jimbo139
    @Jimbo139 Месяц назад +10

    >The rescue ace machina pack sucks
    >opens the DUAL AVATAR and SHINOBIRD pack
    Bruh

  • @menekenkack
    @menekenkack Месяц назад +15

    26:17 There is _NO WAY_ Joseph is not going to make a questionable joke here...

  • @zethroth0077
    @zethroth0077 Месяц назад +30

    That ice jade monster banned lowkey was good for future games . She’s cracked out in seal.

    • @lyncario5515
      @lyncario5515 Месяц назад +7

      She's cracked period. She has high attack, she banishes 1 card a turn, and makes your whole board into pseudo-towers for the rest of the turn. That's an incrediblt scary set of effect, she only lacks a good deck to be played in, but once there's a good water deck that does synchro, she's going to be obnoxious as all hell.

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +3

      Honestly she's just a pretty damn good card, and she's VERY flavorful to play in SwoSou.

    • @walkerscoral
      @walkerscoral Месяц назад +1

      @@Sassaparilla Soowoo

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Месяц назад +1

      She’s still cracked. I had her summoned four times this week against me in Master Duel, and lost twice because of it.

    • @Endershock1678
      @Endershock1678 Месяц назад +1

      @@lyncario5515
      Icejade is actually not bad rn because of their new support. It’s not… good, but it’s playable assuming you aren’t going against the tier 1 decks of the format.

  • @Kreatton
    @Kreatton Месяц назад +4

    Dispatchparazzi needs to stay on the field at the end of the Damage Step to trigger it's effect, it gets banished after damage calc so it's not on the field at the end of Damage Step. The weird part comes from the Dragunity monster cuz it checks if it WOULD destroy the opponent's monster by battle and if yes it banishes the monster before the damage step ends.

    • @edsylan2275
      @edsylan2275 Месяц назад +4

      is because banishing the monster by an activated effect overrides being destroyed by battle, and now the card is only considered leaving the field by an opponents card effect
      It used to be a relevant ruling back when zoodiac was part of the meta.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 Месяц назад

      One has to love how the same words mean different things because the effects activate at different times!
      (edit - better wording)

  • @FloundBlacky
    @FloundBlacky Месяц назад +30

    57:10 WHY didnt Farfa activate twin twister?! if Farfa uses it on Couse, the Transverser play wouldnt have worked

    • @narutokiubissj2
      @narutokiubissj2 Месяц назад +3

      I was thinking that the entire time. He threw so badly for that

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +4

      To be fair, Gage did missclick earlier, and would have probably ended it the previous turn if he hadn't, so it's pretty fair that they both made one notable missplay here.

    • @liviousgameplay1755
      @liviousgameplay1755 Месяц назад

      i mean, if he WAS playing around transverser, he would have... not played into transverser in the first place? waiting to pitch the poly for something that outs guardian chimera while poly isn't in grave was definitely correct.

    • @Merilirem
      @Merilirem Месяц назад +10

      @@liviousgameplay1755 Its not about transverser though. Its just the correct thing to do when your opponent is setting cards up. It could have been a link 3 play too or a 7 being made. Either way you stop him there.

    • @Carlet_S
      @Carlet_S Месяц назад +3

      gahgeh can just chain the effect of Legion as a higher chain link and summon the Couse anyways, from the moment he summoned the Chimera to the wrong zone he had lost the game already
      edit: nevermind if he summons with Legion he's locked into Dragunity only, wow this card fucking SUCKS

  • @GoneRampant
    @GoneRampant Месяц назад +23

    "Oh damn Farfa lost another week."

  • @humanoid251
    @humanoid251 Месяц назад +6

    Farfa not crafting a Cruel Whale smh 🐋
    Ok at this point Farfa’s just cursed. He pulled probably the best deck out of the 3 and STILL got 2-0’d

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      he couldnt have crafted him
      he didnt get UR or lower, he just gor UR craft, he didnt win to get to chooes if he wants the "weaker" reward

  • @vaylantz_enjoyer
    @vaylantz_enjoyer Месяц назад +19

    Doug only went into the War Rock pack to give Farfa PTSD

  • @MagiaBased
    @MagiaBased Месяц назад +9

    The Bear Hands Pun at the end was so stupid it made me laugh 😂

  • @YourWaterBoii
    @YourWaterBoii Месяц назад +5

    Holy shit, Farfa is just addicted to throwing. Bro doesn't miss.

    • @GOMO26
      @GOMO26 Месяц назад

      Wouldn't that mean he only misses?

    • @painboyadvanced
      @painboyadvanced Месяц назад

      @@GOMO26 If you never miss missing, but your intention isnt to miss, does it make a sound?

  • @CodyLeslie14
    @CodyLeslie14 Месяц назад +1

    For those confused about the Dispatchparazzi battle, I'm pretty sure it's a ruling similar to the effect if Red Dragon Archfiend. Confusingly, the card is still on the field at the end of damage calc, but is flagged to be destroyed by battle later. However, much like how RDA will destroy by it's effect instead, the Dragunity synchro banishes it before it is fully destroyed, thus avoiding the effect.

  • @sebastianl4135
    @sebastianl4135 Месяц назад +3

    The part of Farfa's chat that keeps going on about how he passed over Prank Kids when he already spelled out that he just *doesn't like that deck* is seriously annoying. Literally no listening comprehension skills whatsoever. EDIT: @Doug, you should keep your Pankratops. It is a legitimate strategy as part of this series.

  • @FLAVERY-AVERY
    @FLAVERY-AVERY Месяц назад +20

    Farfa not using Twitter. Twisters on the dragunity being equipped tho... cost the game

  • @WitheringAurora
    @WitheringAurora Месяц назад +22

    Banish by Card effect overrides destroyed by battle, because it's the last state the card was in.

  • @kingwalter4284
    @kingwalter4284 Месяц назад +2

    If anybody is wondering what happened with Farfa dispatchparazzi monster, the card States that when it's destroyed by battle which means after the card is destroyed you can apply to affect, but Gage monster banishes a card after damage calculation which means before the card is destroyed the effect triggers, so *the card was not destroyed by battle it was banished by card affect.*

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +6

      That's not why. As far as I'm aware, it's the CA Benten Vs D.D. Crow Ruling. Trigger effects need to remain in the appropriate location to resolve, and as it does not arrive at the expected location by the end of the chain (it is destroyed and THEN banished), it doesn't see that it should trigger at all. This is why DD Crow in response to the Tribute of a Benten works. It never gets the time to see that it was Destroyed, as the last action it experienced was it being Banished.
      If Dispatch was banished by Macro Cosmos instead, it would still work, as Macro is a replacement to where it sends, not a secondary action overwriting the status of the first.

    • @kingwalter4284
      @kingwalter4284 Месяц назад

      @@Sassaparilla remember back in the day when a strong monster was anything with a decent level of attack or a good card affect, and you didn't have to look up over 100 rulings on how a card affection apply,
      Yeah those were the good old days.

    • @Irwanadri666
      @Irwanadri666 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@kingwalter4284 There are tons of rulings vagueness too back in the day, what? Just watch Cimooo's history of Yu-Gi-Oh/Jank, both Cimo and MBT constantly open up rulings in that series since the beginning. Rulings have always been complicated.

    • @Irwanadri666
      @Irwanadri666 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@Sassaparilla Man, that's a rough one. Thanks for explaining it, dude.

    • @harish5724
      @harish5724 Месяц назад +2

      @@kingwalter4284rulings were so much worse before psct

  • @JosephHk743
    @JosephHk743 Месяц назад +15

    That game 1 was a match to behold. Holy smokes.
    This episode is already crazy with the ban list and the foundations for each duelist later on.
    57:27 Well Deserved Revenge.
    53:40 Also Crazy Pull on Farfa.

  • @connorhamilton5707
    @connorhamilton5707 Месяц назад +16

    Unless you want to count that single pull as one of your two times of going into the Gouki pack, I think the pack that you can craft from should be whatever you pull 10 from. It just doesn't particularly make sense for you to pull a single pack for crafts and face no other penalties for doing so.
    I think it's reasonable to keep the Pank, since it's not like this is the first time it's happened, but change the rules for the future since there is now a pack limit in place.

    • @thatoneLerrydude
      @thatoneLerrydude Месяц назад +9

      I think is reasonable to count that as dip, meaning he lost his first try at the goukis.

    • @Sassaparilla
      @Sassaparilla Месяц назад +7

      The exact wording is "go in". If you step into the tidepool, you have entered the waters, so he definitely lost a pull as a result.

    • @sebastianl4135
      @sebastianl4135 Месяц назад

      Nah. Hard disagree. Doug shouldn't be encouraged to systematically remove all of the metagaming strats since that is part of the competition among the players.

    • @connorhamilton5707
      @connorhamilton5707 Месяц назад +2

      @@sebastianl4135 This is more of a situation where something means two things, which isn't good for a competition.
      "You can only craft from a pack you go into" and "you can only go into a pack twice". If "go into" means a single pack for one, but a majority of packs for another, then it's not an issue of a "metagaming strat", it's an issue of poorly defined rules allowing a potential bypass of one of them.
      It can totally stay as a metagaming strat to open a single pack to pull cards from with the intent just to craft a card, as long as it also means that single pack counts as you being limited to making that choice in accordance with the pack limit. For some packs it can even be a relatively easy decision, such as the Harpy pack with an ultra craft for Feather Duster.

    • @sebastianl4135
      @sebastianl4135 Месяц назад +2

      @@connorhamilton5707 I mean I don’t really agree with the rule to only go into a pack a limited number of times either but if they want to hold themselves to that standard then sure, this can count as one into the Gouki pack for Doug just for the sake of internal consistency so long as the overall result isn’t to discourage basic metagaming strats that work within the rules outlined for the series such as dipping in just to get a specific craft.

  • @MagicDonny
    @MagicDonny Месяц назад +15

    Dzeff is unstoppable this season ig

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      nah, they are just playing like a""
      Im rooting for Doug so Im glad hehas this big of a lead, but its not because he is good, but the other 2 are bad (and gage sometimes getsunlucky, farfa is just bad after this episode, no defense for him)

    • @MagicDonny
      @MagicDonny Месяц назад

      @nbassasin8092 age of gage is coming trust me

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +2

      @@MagicDonny well he does have decent potentialy to make dragon link if he gets lucky, and he is also like 3-4 games behind Doug which isnt a lot, so I wouldnt say it is impossible, but the way things are going, like Doug said towards the end, they really just be letting him win and get away with it every week
      the only time this season Doug actually had the best deck in the room was the one before this one

    • @uuh4yj43
      @uuh4yj43 Месяц назад

      i thought doug was straight up bad at the game watching last season

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      @@uuh4yj43 last season? where he led for all but 2-3 episodes and only lost in the last one? that is bad?

  • @Pan6100
    @Pan6100 Месяц назад +5

    Farfa getting absolutely owned by Transverser is just *chef's kiss*

    • @RaineAshe
      @RaineAshe Месяц назад +3

      He totally could have stopped it too. But he just straight up chise not to

  • @LeoWell303
    @LeoWell303 Месяц назад +21

    Going off of the colors in the banning portion of the episode, Gage is Lightning McQueen, Dzeeff is King, and Farfa is Chick. As of the beginning of this episode, this checks out with their win/loss records, too.

    • @kaiserdragon7233
      @kaiserdragon7233 Месяц назад +3

      Omg yes!!!!

    • @cameraredeye3115
      @cameraredeye3115 Месяц назад

      Doug Zeeff as "The King" Strip Weathers
      Farfa as Chick Hicks
      Gage as Lightning McQueen
      Man, that's actually VERY fitting. Nice job with the Cars reference too.

  • @hazamax2139
    @hazamax2139 Месяц назад +10

    Damn, Farfa wheel got buffed

  • @ryanhall5360
    @ryanhall5360 Месяц назад +13

    I can't believe Farfa built a whole Fluffal deck and doesn't know what a single one of them do. He legit just threw the episode multiple times bc he refuses to read what his cards do

  • @lukaskozina7100
    @lukaskozina7100 Месяц назад +5

    53:50 i have never heard doug laugh this hard lmao

  • @fight4yourright2
    @fight4yourright2 Месяц назад +5

    "Trust the British to lose" Lets go Crush Cards America #1 RAHHHHHHHHHH

  • @chavosaur2221
    @chavosaur2221 Месяц назад +1

    This is legitimately the best episode of all the seasons. That game 1 was insane.

  • @benplayzgamez8899
    @benplayzgamez8899 Месяц назад +2

    Farfa really said "Nah, I'd win"
    Then went 0-2

  • @supervegito8340
    @supervegito8340 Месяц назад +3

    I really do appreciate the wheel being there for farfa in his lowest moments.

  • @OhitsONnow
    @OhitsONnow Месяц назад +1

    Geonator coming back to earn the crown YET AGAIN showing everyone who is THE QUEEN of Saga

  • @maurogonzalez6242
    @maurogonzalez6242 Месяц назад +7

    Yo, new episo-
    *Sees thumbnail*
    Holy SHIIIIIIT! AFTER A BANLIST TOO?!

  • @LightningKimba
    @LightningKimba Месяц назад +3

    There is something about Gage Transverising Farfa that's just incredible. Your swap? OUR swap.

  • @Feeling_Better_Already
    @Feeling_Better_Already Месяц назад

    That first game was such a beautiful encapsulation of the highs and lows of this series. Well fought! It was a pleasure to watch!

  • @dumbdenki3164
    @dumbdenki3164 Месяц назад +8

    At least the farfa wheel gave him a UR

  • @alexanderwilpert7321
    @alexanderwilpert7321 Месяц назад +1

    I am watching all seasons for the last few years, and I really have to give propz to crushcards, his editing and his humour! ❤

  • @broww.
    @broww. Месяц назад +1

    51:10
    After looking around the best explanation I can come up with is this, Dispatchparazzi activates at the end of damage step if it is destroyed by battle. But after damage calculation it has moved location due to an effect. Now the Dispatchparazzi cannot do it's when destroyed by battle because at the end of the damage step it is no longer considered being destroyed by battle, it's just considered banished.
    If macro cosmos is on the field and Dispatchparazzi is destroyed and banished it will activate properly because it has been destroyed by battle and left the field because of it. It will activate while banished. If Dragunity Knight - Areadbhair had just said "any monster destroyed by this card is banished" (as a continuous effect instead of an activated trigger) then the play would've probably worked.
    Children's Card Game everyone.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 Месяц назад

      Children's card game without a proper rulebook, no less. I'd explain it a bit differently, but you are correct. (I'd mention that the Dragunity card has a different trigger condition than Dispatch despite using the same words to describe it - Dragunity thing triggers on marking for destruction, whereas Dispatch triggers on actual destruction, Dragunity thing gets Dispatch off the field before it is destroyed, and cards marked for destruction are only destroyed if they remain on the field)

  • @PredicateCapeThe21St
    @PredicateCapeThe21St Месяц назад +73

    🛡️Spoiler shield 🛡️

  • @tuvillo
    @tuvillo Месяц назад +2

    Gage: Stop putting things in the Transverser column! *Puts stolen card in Transverser column*

  • @EltonLeonidas
    @EltonLeonidas Месяц назад +2

    Hear me out, this should be the strategy: Always open only 14 pack , then depending on what craft you have, you can just pivot into a different secret pack, just for crafting 1 staple card from that pack. In this case you'll get a lot of strong staple every week, and they can't hit them all.

  • @IC-23
    @IC-23 Месяц назад +27

    I know the intro is sliding JPEGs but it's so clean

  • @YungOniiChan
    @YungOniiChan Месяц назад +1

    "You know Chuck E. Cheese Farfa, it's just Fnaf, *without the killing*"
    This sent me so hard 😂😂😂👌

  • @LPSD4829
    @LPSD4829 Месяц назад +2

    Banger episode as always guys, thanks for the entertainment!

  • @lmSpeciaI
    @lmSpeciaI Месяц назад +12

    I think you should have to dip into 5 packs of a secret pack to be able to craft a UR from it.

    • @cuttlefish6839
      @cuttlefish6839 Месяц назад +2

      I think its fair as he can only go into the gouging packs 1 more time since he did also technically go into them. Which can end up hurting his chances of a good gouki deck

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад

      why?

  • @rhynchocephalian
    @rhynchocephalian Месяц назад +5

    oh my god Doug & Farfa fucking torched & salted the earth with their bans for Gage-
    the sheer spite, I love it

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад +1

      they really underestimating Dragunities. hoping Gage gets any of the plethora of synergistic strats and smokes them because of their mistakes

    • @cameraredeye3115
      @cameraredeye3115 Месяц назад

      ​@@nbassasin8092 I can definitely attest to the power of Dragunity in Master Saga. Played 3 matches against someone who had it while I ran Subterror Generaiders and ended up getting OTK'd by Ascalon Turbo roughly half the time. That deck is legit nuts when piloted properly.

    • @nbassasin8092
      @nbassasin8092 Месяц назад

      @@cameraredeye3115 You are absolutely right
      Im slightly biased because they are among my favourite archetypes ever, but also Im more knowledgeable about them than average yugioh player because of that, and trust me, the only reason that deck never saw any competitive relevancy as standalone deck, is because D-link is far superior while basically acomplishing the same thing as them

  • @NovusIgnis
    @NovusIgnis Месяц назад +1

    Man this was a sick episode. I wa sso sure that Farfa was going to 2-0 and Doug was going to get swept, but it ended up being reversed!
    That first game was a thing of beauty though. Damn it was hype.

  • @andreobarros
    @andreobarros Месяц назад +1

    Battle step,
    Damage step [
    - start of damage step
    - before damage calculation
    ------ flips face down, atk modulating effects, etc
    - damage calculation
    ------ does math, losing monster gets marked for destruction
    - after damage calculation -- (dragunity effect yeets it to the banishment)
    ------ flip effects
    - end of damage step
    ---- monsters marked for destruction are destroyed
    ---- battle destruction effects
    ]
    Was never destroyed by battle. It was marked for destruction but ended up bashed instead.
    For instance I am mostly positive it would trigger if DMOC had destroyed it by battle.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 Месяц назад

      Thanks for the proper explanation. I understood what happened in general terms - banish between marking for destruction and actual destruction, and the two triggers with the same wording mean different things - but I couldn't remember the steps and their contents.

  • @runningoncylinders3829
    @runningoncylinders3829 Месяц назад +1

    Farfa to Geonator and a collectively unknowable Dispatch ruling, oof. I think his Fluffal is worth revisiting.
    The first Vendor for Chain was the preferred to Sabres. Sabres censor is hilarious.

  • @V0idLight
    @V0idLight Месяц назад +1

    About the Dispatchparazzi, you can actually see the animation where the cards gets cracked and then sent to the banish pile instead of the destruction animation where the card explodes. Not a ruling expert or anything, I just noticed that detail.

  • @stevencarle6442
    @stevencarle6442 Месяц назад +2

    I feel like the crafts should be limited to the pack you pulled 10 from. It’s meant to help build your strategy and I feel like it just being a staple ticket funnels us into needing the legacy bans again. Just my thoughts though, love the series!

  • @mgm3649
    @mgm3649 Месяц назад +1

    Lmfao with that toy vendor Gorz play. Gorz is just one of the most nostalgic cards (to me at least). To this day I still attack with the lower atk monster first.

  • @gomiboi
    @gomiboi Месяц назад

    great episode! ur doing a great job adapting and compensating to keep things balanced, interesting, and fun

  • @xatuyou8045
    @xatuyou8045 Месяц назад +2

    Gage’s Katy Perry diss couldn’t come at a more perfect time.

  • @metalmariomega
    @metalmariomega Месяц назад +1

    "The Transverser is implied!"
    Also gotta watch out for Anima spots, and any card intentionally set in front of another card. Them's the basics.

  • @therranolleo468
    @therranolleo468 Месяц назад +1

    I WAS SCREAMING at Farfa to just flip the TT and snipe the monster i n the backrow, lo and behold Gagej got the transverser revenge

  • @zo-zu7158
    @zo-zu7158 Месяц назад +2

    Yo, that Game 1 was fucking nuts, dude. Tokenless Gorz and Guardian Chimera vs Attack mode Redox and GEONATOR?!?! OHMYGOODGODDAMN!!!

  • @rajkanishu
    @rajkanishu Месяц назад

    That Farfa VS Gage game has to be one of the greatest ever in Master Saga's history, straight out of the anime

  • @258thHiGuy
    @258thHiGuy Месяц назад +1

    The Dragunity synchro banishes once the attack target is designated to be destroyed. It wasn’t banished as a result of battle, that’s not how it works. It’s not like bottomless trap hole

  • @kammerer396
    @kammerer396 Месяц назад +2

    Incoming 8th week in a row Farfa said he'll "start trying now" and proceed to pick the objectively worst pack possible

  • @Geezer879
    @Geezer879 Месяц назад +2

    I'm fine with the pank craft. There really aren't that many packs where this is a viable option and it comes at the cost of a relevant archetype UR craft. It's a no-brainer here because the War Rock/Amazoness pulls not being worth committing to, but there's a lot of times where that could make or break a deck.

  • @Endershock1678
    @Endershock1678 Месяц назад +1

    Spoilers
    Correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure the Link 2 did just miss timing. It doesn’t always pop up the window, since I believe something chaining before it can activate just stops you from activating it entirely (think chain blocking) and I distinctly remember in a duel be I believe MBT, Doug destroyed and banished an Unchained card and it still had its floating effect.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 Месяц назад

      It didn't miss timing. The condition "when destroyed by battle" means different things depending on when its associated effect activates. If it activates mid-damage step, after the substep where the card is marked for destruction but before it's destroyed, it means "when marked for destruction by battle." If it activates after the card marked for destruction is actually destroyed, it means "when destroyed by battle." In this case, the banish effect activates after marking for destruction and before actual destruction, so it sees that Dispatch is marked for destruction, activates and banishes it. In a later substep of the damage step - I think the next one - any card marked for destruction is destroyed. Dispatch would be destroyed here, save for the fact that it has already left the field. Because it has left the field, it cannot be destroyed. Disptach's effect triggers on actual destruction, but that destruction never happens, so it never triggers. See the fact that Master Duel never plays the destruction animation where the card shatters, it only plays the marked for destruction animation where cracks form across the card.

    • @delta3244
      @delta3244 Месяц назад

      As a side note, cards like Bottomless destroy _and_ banish cards. In cases like that, you will see the destruction (shattering) animation _and_ see the card move to the banished zone. Here, you only see it move to banished - you only see it be banished. This is why the lack of the destruction animation is a good hint as to what's going on.
      (edit - typo)

  • @ethanel4222
    @ethanel4222 Месяц назад +1

    Gage: Let me pass on a strong pack, fully commit to a crap pack, then decide not use any of it
    Doug: Same, but craft from strong pack

  • @FamilyManz
    @FamilyManz Месяц назад +1

    Lmao even Doug is shocked he's winning

  • @therealPayne
    @therealPayne Месяц назад

    Farfa always yelling at chat, telling them how stupid they are.
    Also Farfa: "Chat explain to me how Greater Poly works."

  • @AZ-rl7pg
    @AZ-rl7pg Месяц назад

    I was honestly expecting Farfa to immediately unlock the Mathmech pack from the first Master Pack after his "no more 'for fun Farfa'" speech (8:00).

  • @supervegito8340
    @supervegito8340 Месяц назад +1

    The fact that rulings fucked farfa this episode is so funny. Cause yes the ruling is “when destroyed by battle” is an end of battle which is later than damage calc meaning the banish negated the destroyed by battle. It’s such a niche ruling that so rarely happens

  • @outwithayang7153
    @outwithayang7153 Месяц назад

    That game 1 made me so happy. Been waiting for the dragunity revenge since dzeeff and farfa ripped so hard on gage week 1 for playing it.

  • @sangpenikam7
    @sangpenikam7 Месяц назад

    5 episode in and I still goes "Wtf is that pose" whenever I see Dough pic before their duel

  • @codycarney2311
    @codycarney2311 Месяц назад

    Rocked up with the wrost deck by far and took them both to the cleaners. You love to see it.

  • @exceed6838
    @exceed6838 Месяц назад +5

    i am in awe. farfa starts the episode proclaiming he will simply not lose this week, pulls CONSTRUCTED FLUFFAL, and somehow manages to lose anyway. god bless you farfa, you have my utmost respect 🫡

  • @mattmoroney5697
    @mattmoroney5697 Месяц назад +4

    Absolutely ELITE game 1 😂 what a rollercoaster ride

  • @Wendell_Go
    @Wendell_Go Месяц назад

    That first duel was great! Real good back and forth.

  • @cactusguy4363
    @cactusguy4363 2 дня назад

    Here's my understanding of the Dispatchparazzi kerfuffle:
    Areadbhair destroys Dispatch by battle
    Dispatch is on its way to the GY
    Before the Dispatch that is destroyed hits the GY, Areadbhair's effect activates and resolves, banishing Dispatch
    Dispatch doesn't have the opportunity to trigger, as it is now no longer on the field, thus no longer in the state of being destroyed

  • @MehIFied
    @MehIFied Месяц назад

    Farfa vs. Nym was a nice one this week, featuring a weird ass ruling

  • @imwhatthekidscallcringy3858
    @imwhatthekidscallcringy3858 Месяц назад +2

    What kind of Chuck E. Cheese is Doug going to? The ones in California are still popular enough to be charging a lot for credits

  • @MrOzono
    @MrOzono Месяц назад +1

    I learnt to my expenses to always, ALWAYS, place my most important boss monster to the far right to avoid any transverser and anima shenanigans... It happened to me one too many times...

  • @ThcC0wboy
    @ThcC0wboy Месяц назад

    The first game was absolute awesome to watch !

  • @draconicepic4124
    @draconicepic4124 Месяц назад +1

    To be fair, Farfa lost the Gage match to himself. He didn't twin twister the special summon from the back row.