Brutally Harsh Photo Critique Warning: 1.5 Solid Photos out of 10
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- Опубликовано: 15 мар 2017
- Brutally Harsh Photo Critique Warning: 1.5 Solid Photos out of 10
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Let me start off by saying a photo critique is not meant to be done with kid gloves. It's also not meant to be mean for the sake of being mean. It's meant to point out faults in images as well as help build off of positives the images have.
When I say 1.5 solid photos out of 10 in this critique, I mean one photo really stood out amongst the rest. I also think this photographer is not far off from getting more solid photos with a few minor tweaks.
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so these were still cropped to hell even with +600mm, was this guy shooting from another planet or something
No teleconverter Jared just miss spoke do the the math it's 1.5X
Cropping doesn't always mean magnification.
All these relplies are wrong, he's at 600mm on a crop frame sensor AND THEN CROPPED AGAIN. He is shooting from mars!
They'd crop with a sigmonster
6 years later and this comment still cracks me up
"Holy shit are you far away from everything" 😂 HAHAHAHHA
Must not be a wildlife shooter. It isn't like being at the zoo.
ahahaha) made my day)
He shot these from the car.
Best ever!
:'-)
No Jared, that is not a goose...Also I couldn't agree more, those crops are absolutely horrendous
Hes not a natureguy i guess
@554c46 if it were true that's a bullshit reason, but they're not completely square so it makes no sense? (Instagram didn't allow non square photos back when these were taken)
For anyone curious, it's a Great Egret. 100% not a goose lol
+Edwin Barnes It's not about when they were taken. It's about when they were submitted to Jared because I can still upload old photos that are cropped like this to IG
and the squirrel that he said was a chipmunk 😂 I was cracking up with animal confusion
I've recently sent a set to Fro and was afraid that title might be for my pics. DODGED.
Random Ibis same here xD
Random Ibis random in body image stabilization?
Yes, it takes more skill to take a shot when the camera may randomly try to stabilize it. Once you turn it off, you can shoot handheld at 10". With just one hand.
Random Ibis handy.
Random Ibis haha same here made my heart stop for a bit
No matter how confident I was in my images I wouldn't send them to Jared. He's great but I'd most likely end up crying myself too sleep.
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. In my humble opinion give it a shot man
haha yes you should try dude.
Cry once of his harsh feedback. Who cares... It won't kill you as +Alex Sosa said!
Best of luck! ^^
Zach Schilly *to
Tactfulness goes a long way.
"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than 'good job' " Terence Fletcher, Whiplash (2014)
Did we ever consider the possibility of this photographer using a tripod?
Ha, same thing on my mind. :-)
Guy was probably in a zoo or park with tripod.
Which isn't a bad idea.
People who get mad at you for being too harsh are the people who want a medal for showing up.
Alex McDougall thank you!
Alex McDougall It's funny though because he himself can't handle critique and his photos are shit. I feel like critique is very surface-level, often focused on technical details and not especially harsh generally tbh. I agree that the bird photo is the only good one of this bunch, but this is a RUclipsr who is notoriously bad at handling constructive criticism and his photography is boring af
i bought a Nikon d5500.. which is the best lense for this..anyone help me to choose to buy a lense
Max Graphics, it depends on what you want to shoot. If you're starting, it's best to go with a normal kit lens or normal zoom like 18-200mm. Then you'll get a feel of what you want to shoot, and then I'd decide then which lens to buy next...
haha...lol!! xD
plot twist - he used a tripod
OMG WHAT! :-O
Yeah he did. I dont get why Jared didnt see it
Lol, hand holding @ 1/45 of a second @ 900mm hahahah . Dude would have to have mechanical hands
Or shooting with Olympus IBIS
also he probably used AUTO mode, that is why all settings might be messed up.
I'm trying to understand the logic. 1/2500 of a second for a giraffe but 1/125 of a second for a dragonfly. What???
It might have been moving at that moment. Dragonflies can stay still too - a lot, actually
because fuk da police
Mihai Obaciu but he is at 600mm....
He probably used a flash on the dragonfly, so it really doesn't matter what his shutter speed is. In fact a slightly slower shutter keeps the background from being too dark.
@@MsIrrealis tripod and os
I feel like most of the pictures are grey in the midtones. They seem pretty flat.
So I like watching your critiques, but can I suggest something? Spend a little more time explaining why the photo is bad, and how it can be improved. When you were discussing the issues with grain and noise due to cropping, that was incredibly helpful for me as a new photographer. Typically you do a good job and that is why I watch all of your videos, but just a little more on the teaching side would be awesome. Either way, thank you for your videos and basically giving your knowledge away for free.
jesse lords watch Chelsea Northrop. she does a great job of explaining the technical side.
@@mayanalien Yes the Northrups do weekly critiques where they actually edit your photos in lightroom, etc.
Just wanted to say that the way you explained the stops of light and how to convert settings blew my mind. That's super intuitive and now I want to go experiment.
A note on the crop, square prints seem to be really popular. There are a crop ton of frames for 1x1 shots. It's hard to find 13x19 or 4x6 frames.
hey Jared I'm working on my photo book and i was wondering if i should put a few pages of text now and then to describe the trip i were on and to describe the picture?
what are your thoughts on this?
You were not harsh here Jared, the images were actually bad. As for the cropping issue I feel that he cropped these images exclusively for instagram. People seem to love square images over there.
Shubham Jain i dont use Instagram, but i think that looking at a 16:9 image on your 9:16 screen is not the best thing ever
I am having a hard time understanding why Jared doesn't 'get' this square crop thing. He uses IG.
John Campbell Its not the square thing. Its about breathing space and gazing direction. These things are important in an image. Square images decreases these most of the time.
ñañaflen Damn right. I have clicked so many images in 16:9 that look gorgeous but can't upload it on instagram because 9:16 makes it look bad.
I understand composition, I was pointing out that Jared should understand the 'why' about the squares. My next head-scratcher is you two talking about 9:16 aspect ratio. What device has that? Your phone in portrait mode?
Hi I have question. Why would you insist on raising the iso if the image is properly exposed and most importantly sharp. Reference to 18:09 on video timeline image of bug
While I can't speak for him of course but I believe he is mentioning it because of the potential of other shots. If the dragon fly suddenly takes off or twitches out, the higher iso/ shutter speed maximizes the potential of freezing that action. Perhaps not a critique on the shot itself but on the shooting style.
Blue bird photo has dull lifeless lighting, but the best composition.
Can someone please briefly explain to me the relationship between focal length and shutter speed? If I'm shooting at 600mm, my shutter speed needs to be highter than 1/600? I'll have to look this up when I get home...
How do you get all that info on your settings?
I wonder if the crop is square for posting on Instagram and they didn't post originals on their site.
A little bit of tough love eh Jared. But I do agree with your comments, except for the poor Great Egret that was turned into a goose.
Agree mostly. Like to see a couple of them cropped to vertical. The sepia on the bird LOSES the pure white feathers, so a fail on post.
Goose?...Chipmunk?...Dude, didn't your parents ever bring you to a Zoo when you were a boy? Too funny!
CowsRus, thank you for that. Not that I'm an English major or anything, but I believe the syntax to be correct. Basically, the essential difference between these two words is that "Bring" implies movement towards someone or something. {ie: Bring your instrument with you when you come over.} Whereas the word "Take" implies movement "away" from someone or something or something. {ie: Take your belongings with you when you're leaving.} Thus, I used the word "bring" as Polin's parents would be bringing the young Polin to or towards the zoo, not away from it.
You're welcome, I enjoy correcting poor syntax.
I guess being homeschooled has it's advantages if I am wrong, which I am prone to be from time to time.
CowsRus, thank you for that. Not that I'm an English major or anything, but I believe the syntax to be correct. Basically, the essential difference between these two words is that "Bring" implies movement towards someone or something. {ie: Bring your instrument with you when you come over.} Whereas the word "Take" implies movement "away" from someone or something or something. {ie: Take your belongings with you when you're leaving.} Thus, I used the word "bring" as Polin's parents would be bringing the young Polin to or towards the zoo, not away from it.
You're welcome, I enjoy correcting poor syntax.I guess being homeschooled has it's advantages if I am wrong, which I am prone to be from time to time.
The rapid fire misidentification of the animals had me rolling😂...especially the egret
What lav mics do you use?
Why is the default aspect ratio the only one Fro finds acceptable? Creatively, I don't think a 2:3 aspect ratio is the only shape you can create interesting compositions with.
I get his thing about cropping, in terms of you should be composing the image in camera. But you can shoot for other aspect ratios or with them in mind.
It's 3:2 mate. And unless you are cropping for instagram you should leave the aspect ratio at 3:2 because that's the full width pf the sensor.
@@jpm_drums unless it's micro 4/3 or medium or large format
Why on earth would you assume that everything is shot handheld? Unless the guy told you that he did it.
I am a beginner so excuse my naive question pls. But why should the iso be at 800 instead of 100 for the two monkeys? It seems to be shot outside by a sunny day. I would think that it is better to have a low iso to reduce the noise if there is enough light. I would get a shutter time around 1/400 though with this focal length. Am I wrong and if yes where and why?
Edit: For the monkey alone, the exposure mode is Manual according to the Exif.
That intro is always so cringey
Charlie Dwyer no u
Man i hated it so much but now im kinda addicted to ittttt I swear its a mind game
I like it.
The square crops were probably for Instagram.
Fits perfectly for comedy gay porn
Can someone break down what all this means simply..what settings to use when? I'm super confused
To sign up for flicker do you have to create a yahoo account? id like to submit my photos
Totally with you on the critique. I didn't think you were too harsh. No point in sugar coating it. How can anyone improve if they don't get critiqued? The fact is there is only one or two really good shots out of that lot.The rest are in the main, badly cropped or poorly composed, or both. Hopefully the photographer can learn from this and correct some of those rookie errors.
I had a portfolio critique done on some of my work many years ago and got ripped a new asshole and it was one of the best things to happen to me in my photography career. It helped me have a more honest and open approach to my work as well at taught me that "rejection" is not the end of the world. Take out of it what you can learn and move on!
Do you have a video focused on building exposure.
Hey jared..what is photography maths...ratio iso a/f etc combination
Just a note here. You assumed he was handholding at those long lengths with slow shutter speeds...my bet is that some of those were taken at a zoo with a tripod which would have let him get away with longer exposures and still be sharp.
Isn't the crop factor on the nikon dx 1.5? And he's probably cropping in squares for Instagram. Squares just don't look good.
how to send the images??
Whats wrong in not sticking with the original aspect ratio? I often use 1:1.618 for city and landscape. And for the portrait format I sometimes use 4:3 because it looks more pleasant to me in case of shoulder portraits.
Where can I submit photos??
I would love to get a critique from you. I feel that sometimes in the fb groups I belong to, the people don't give real feedback. how do I get you to critique me?
Maybe just me but is the crop not from being put on Instagram, hence the square crop?
I don't understand what rule Jared is talking about at 8:41 about the exposure in the monkeys picture, can someone explain to me?
As you grow in photography, you, I mean us should be the best judge of our work. Once you can pick apart your own work and not be satisfied, you will grow as a photographer. On the other hand, if you are selling images like weddings, it only matters if your client loves the photography, not others photographers. Never be satisfied, keep pushing yourself brothers and sisters.
I'd like to get that metal print. Do you have a special link from Adoramapix for I can help support the channel?
How can i submit for this
@JaredPolin do you also critique instagram photography page? I am an amateur photographer who would like to get a critique on the little work I have on my Photography page @rsnaps.nyc.
Thank you for offering some meaningful information on what makes a photograph different from a snapshot. I found the crop comments very useful.
Where so you send the photos to? Email? Just would like some feedback
This is a good critique session. 100% good stuff. When I was starting out, my teacher did the same thing.
love this video. very helpful I always am scared to crop. I try to take the photo as how i want to see it
How can I send you my photos to critique? I'm new at photography and would love the feedback.
where to send photos for rev? when ty !
Sir please keep making more of this series :D
This video is a great example of a photographer who doesn't know how to use his gear but still bought a 2000 dollar camera.
There is nothing wrong with that. Maybe he makes a good living and wanted to pick up photography as a hobby so he bought some halfway decent gear. He's trying to learn and he will get better with experience. There's no shame in that. Now if as a beginner he bought a D5 and 600 f/4 then you could say he went a little overboard. :)
I had my pet squirrel watch this video. He's still chuckling over you thinking that a squirrel is a chipmunk.
Thanx, learned a lot. I know many people (including myself) who doesn't know acatelly the simple rules for iso, exposure and time and just shoot snapshots. With this video you force me to think more and better how to use my camera.
Nikon crop factor is 1.5, so 600x1.5=900mm
You're welcome
Gabriele Gugliuzza he had a teleconverter on it too
Can you do photos from /r/analog?
Several points here: firstly the bird was an egret!! Second point: I shoot birds, the last thing you want to do is raise your ISO "unless" you have to, if the guys is getting sharp shots at 1/50 sec. that's the best plan. Fur, feathers and fine detail are ruined by 800-1600 ISO especially on APSc DSLRs. Most birders are forced to shoot APSc bodies to get the reach, this means you have a 1-1 1/2 stops more noise than FF. BTW the "affordable" Tamron/Sigma 150-600mm generally are not sharp wide open at 600mm F6.3 this usually produces soft images, that's why most people shoot at F8. Other than that I agree with your thoughts on composition/cropping/chopping and prefer the 2/3 format. So it's always a juggling match between high shutter speeds and noise. I kinda get the impression your used to shooting 600mm F4 lenses on a FF camera, so don't cook your "goose" (egret) shooting high ISOs ha ha!
In the image where you were trying to see if he shot in Auto, you missed the line that said "Exposure Mode: Manual" You can see it at 12:49
I learn more every time I watch your videos. Thank you. :)
Nikons crop sensor is 1.5
The 1.4 he was referring to was the teleconverter used.
That's what I thought too. @Jared Polin That makes an equivalent of 900mm straight and 600mm x 1.4 would equal 840mm.
No canons crop sensor is 1.4 the guy was using a D500 which has a crop factor of 1.5. I have a d7100 with the same crop factor
Canon is 1.6, AND you spell it SENSOR. Censor means something else.
Thanks for the correction, I have that lens and the same size Sensor camera. Fro is most likely busy as hell and with all the different numbers out got it confused. But it's a 1.5 crop camera, with no teleconverter
Not harsh at all. Not only was your critique honest but also informative. Society needs to learn how to accept critiques better. Anyway, great video
Learn a lot today! Thank you!
Accepting constructive criticism is the best way to learn, including humility.
Excellent critique, the composition & framing / cropping in post were decidedly amateurish. Excellent examples of how not to set up the shots, or refine them in post.
Just submitted my website! Hopefully I'll be lucky enough to get a critique from you, Fro!
These shots give out the feel of someone wanting to get into wildlife photography, not having any experience, and buying gear that the photographer friend recommended. Good gear, amateur shooter. The crops are HORRIBLE.
I agree that some of the crops take away the motion, the flow of the photo. the bird in flight..what are they flying to? where is the storytelling side of the photos?
Emily B indeed! Same with the picture of the squirrel. Great picture quality, but leave some space to the left. Let the eyes of the squirrel lead the viewer, even if it's to empty space. That crop is just making things feel like they are coming to an abrupt end. Hope that makes sense.
hersh23 it does. fro is correct and it feels like a snapshot..also with taking away natural color in a natural environment.. unless you go b/w.. don't go sepia.. I don't always agree with higher iso in bright daylight and some other nitpicking thing, but..the rule of 3rd was just throw in the trash.. I hope the Photographer sees what we see that there is no "story" in the photos. no matter how pretty the colors are..I will pass by because the photo doesn't tell me anything.
Emily B And oddly enough, the last photo blew me away because it WASN'T square. Lol. I mean, it's a beautiful shot but the fact that we saw square crop after square crop after square crop somehow made that last photo, with its basic rules of thirds in effect, so marvelous! Lol. I actually verbally said "Theeeere we go!" when Jared showed the last photo because it's not square, rule of thirds and because there is space in the direction of where the bird is looking at. Simple rules put to use and as a result, it's mind blowing when compared to all the others with the square crop.
hersh23 funny how that works. :) of course there is and place for tight cropping. just a matter of finding your happy place.
How can i have my photos critiqued?
maravilla! por fin un video de crítica que sirve para corregir y aprender :)
I personally don't like the square crop either but I find myself using either a square crop or a 4x5 crop for Instagram quite often. I think it's important to differentiate yourself on Instagram by leveraging the social platform and using certain features to your advantage. If you use a square crop or a 4x5 crop as opposed to a wider crop, as people scroll past your images, your images will take up much more of the frame which means people have more of a chance of stopping on your images, liking them, and hopefully following you or checking out your work. Just throwing in my 2 cents on the whole square crop thing. Definitely not saying this photographer used the crop for that reason, but I just wanted to throw out that possibility. Also just want to say thanks so much for this particular segment! Stumbled upon your photo critique segment this morning and I've been watching them for about an hour now. Great stuff and I love how active the community is! I feel like I've learned so much. I'm personally a videographer but I'm branching out into photography and it's such a fun journey, especially when I can learn from pros such as yourself and learn from the mistakes that others are making (saves me the time of making them myself haha). Peace!
"If you're gonna crop, then leave the aspect ratio where the aspect ratio should be." There's nothing significant about an aspect ratio.
Jared P: dude, I used to have a hate-on for you. Couldn’t figure out why, doesn’t matter now, but since I got myself a Canon T7i, and then watched your tutorial on setting it up and explaining all the controls and whatnot, (which I appreciated a lot and understood well) and then I watched your 5 minute portrait shoot with the denim guy and understood how you roll a bit better and now hearing all of this... dude, you’re hardcore. I meant, no cropping in post NO MATTER WHAT?!? That’s integrity.
How can you tell there cropped?
Dude. You teach me so much.
How did he not get any compression @ 900mm , 2.8 ?
About handholding the Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 G1 at 600mm, it is possible also on slow shutter speeds, the lens is pretty well balanced, and I got quite a nice shot at even 1/25s on a Canon EOS 1200D, making it an equivalent of 960mm. Yes, the image stabilizer from Tamron helped out a hell with 4 stops. But the rest was just a ton of luck and a little bit of breathing technique to keep it still during the shot for a sharp image. Well, focus missed by 3", but sharp on there anyways.
I appreciate the harsh critiques. I can't get better if someone doesn't break each image down and explain why it is a good or a bad shot. Thank you so much. I'm terrible about cropping in too close when shooting my subject. Then I'm upset because part of the image is cutoff and now it won't work for framing. I still like photos printed and framed.
Curious about "no one shoots at 250" ISO remark; it is actually a setting on the Sony A7 iii and, if I went up one stop (100 to 200) to account for one stop on the 20mm f/1.8, that takes me to ISO 200 and f/2.5. I could then go up another third stop to f/2.8 and account for that with a quarter increase in ISO (to 250) or a half (to 300) depending on which way I think would benefit the shot.
The only time I crop to 1:1 is when it's more an artistic shot rather than a moment or scenic shot if that makes sense. And if I have a natural frame in the picture that will save the picture.
when you see the title and hope that is not your best 10 xD
I wonder if the square crop would look better if there was just a little more space above and below the bird. It seems very cramped.
Some really useful critique, just discovered this channel :)
Isnt high ISO bad in daylight?
FaZe The Incredible Hunk ZombieSlayer depends, not if you try to freeze a action. Something you just need a sharper photo.
I really need help with my F stops, so 100 to 200 ISO is 1 stop, and 200 to 400 is 2 stops, but 400 to 800 is 3 stops but counted 4 stops in my head.
A1 43 what? 100 to 800 is three stops. 1, 100 ->200 2, 200->400 3, 400->800
@@muzlee7479 I wasn't making a statement, I was asking a question.
Very educational. Thanks.
Cropping does not introduce noise by itself, it just makes noise more evident.
How is bumping the ISO supposed to freeze the picture. ISO is just a number isn't it?
They may be cropped for instagram
I wonder these were exported to Flickr via Instagram. That would explain the square crop.
The mascot(s) for Kiddie City if I remember correctly was Kaycee Kangaroo and Baby Hop.
jared do crits from IG profiles?
So what's a good crop? Because every review seems to have a bad crop
I'm shocked Jared didn't bash the artificial look to the giraffe picture especially with the blue sky. Looks like someone got carried away with the vibrancy or saturation.
would love to learn more about correct cropping especially with basic dslr etc. Maybe something for a future video??
Hey Jared, Great Review. I didn't think it was harsh. You just don't like the crop and how it affects the image. I do a lot of zoo photography with a Tamron 200-500 without VR and it can be tricky, but I find I have to really think about what I'm trying to capture and give the viewer a shot they can't see with their own eye. I try to leave black and white for animals that are black/white/grey. Gorillas, Elephants, Zebras I find work really well. Keep up what you do. Appreciate the content.
Jared. You DO look like a mathematician lmao.
hahaha so true
Being someone who does a lot of wildlife photography, you can't always take a lot of time composing your shot.
Composing has to be done in post processing, as birds and animals don't tend to stay still for very long.
Shoot wide then crop later. It's a matter of capturing the moment, not worrying about your camera settings.
The person who take this image is a walking tripod