The Jimmy Diresta Bandsaw Restoration, Part 2: More History, A Second Band Re-Saw & Melting Babbitt

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  • Jimmy Diresta Bandsaw Restoration 2: More History, A Second Band Re-Saw & Melting Babbitt
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  • @jimmydiresta
    @jimmydiresta 2 года назад +140

    Keith!!!! just a suggestion.. if the machinist community wanted to get together and make the various missing parts for the second saw.. community restoration?? and you keep it?!? thank you for what you do!!! love and respect!

    • @assessor1276
      @assessor1276 2 года назад +8

      Now THAT is a great idea!

    • @thomasanderson5033
      @thomasanderson5033 2 года назад +2

      Great idea!

    • @jeremyspecce
      @jeremyspecce 2 года назад +4

      Thanks for sending us to the channel, Jimmy. It’s going to be great watching the rest of this progress. Also.... next year’s Timber-in idea: timber frame to cover this bandsaw if you set it up outside on a new pad outside the black barn like you’ve been talking about.

    • @brianpanco8325
      @brianpanco8325 2 года назад +1

      talk to brian he has the heavy iron to make what you need would bee a wonderful collaboration

    • @ShainAndrews
      @ShainAndrews 2 года назад +23

      Engles Coach shop in MT. Dave is the only guy I would trust making the wheels. Master of his craft.

  • @gavinsteven2157
    @gavinsteven2157 2 года назад +157

    Keith, have a look at Dave over at Engels Coach Works. He does do a really nice wooden wheel when he restores carriages

    • @Andrew_Sparrow
      @Andrew_Sparrow 2 года назад +19

      😂 Snap.. came to comments to say the same!

    • @jimthesoundman8641
      @jimthesoundman8641 2 года назад +21

      I agree completely. Would be very cool to see Dave and Keith do a collaboration video.

    • @phillipyannone3195
      @phillipyannone3195 2 года назад +17

      I was thinking the same thing. It would be a little change of pace for Dave, he probably never made a bandsaw wheel before.

    • @DeutscheReichsbah100
      @DeutscheReichsbah100 2 года назад +18

      I was thinking the same thing.a collaboration with Engels Coach Works.

    • @BentFrontWheel
      @BentFrontWheel 2 года назад +14

      A lot of us have the same thoughts.

  • @louisspataro278
    @louisspataro278 2 года назад +17

    I swear I will start a petition to get that resaw bandsaw fully restored if they don't do it. Keith! Jimmy! Do it. Do it. Do it!

  • @simonscott1121
    @simonscott1121 2 года назад +11

    Just the casting alone is amazing

  • @MandelbrotFrax
    @MandelbrotFrax 2 года назад +9

    No idea why the RUclips Algorithm recommended this to me but I’m glad at did. You’re obviously incredibly knowledgable of your work and field and it’s so awesome that you actually go into the history behind the tool you’re restoring. Great job!

  • @kensherwin4544
    @kensherwin4544 2 года назад +35

    FWIW, I enjoyed hearing both the factual and speculative history of these saws. Thank you foe including both.

  • @yardsausage
    @yardsausage 2 года назад +7

    these kind of things are right up there with old steam locomotives and the industrial revolution in my opinion..i loved it.

  • @Crewsy
    @Crewsy 2 года назад +22

    Once you get the parts all prepped and cleaned you may want to 3D scan all the parts that are missing from the resaw bandsaw providing they fit of course.
    Even if they don’t they certainly should provide guidance in recreating the missing parts.
    I’m sure Windy Hill is just itching to fire up his equipment to recreate some more history.

  • @jamesallen3799
    @jamesallen3799 2 года назад +1

    Mr Keith you are a good Man. Thank you for your work.

  • @eviltwinx
    @eviltwinx 2 года назад +18

    Looks like the name was ground down and a plate was placed over it. You can see the rivet holes on both sides of the logo.

  • @erichoff7926
    @erichoff7926 2 года назад +7

    Keith, you do amazing work and take on projects that would make most of us cower in fear! 😃

  • @JohnnyUmphress
    @JohnnyUmphress 2 года назад +22

    Get Engel's Coach Works to make you a couple of wheels.

  • @KimbrellBrad
    @KimbrellBrad 2 года назад +4

    I would hate to be a fugitive and have "Detective Rucker" on my tail! Great history lesson on the company and the saws Keith. Truly appreciate the effort!

  • @migueltorres6073
    @migueltorres6073 10 месяцев назад

    Enjoyed the history. Hopefully the resaw can get done as well!

  • @DhulstDirk
    @DhulstDirk 2 года назад +2

    Absolutely love your passion for vintage machinery! It has been fun watching and learning from your channel!

  • @mdouglaswray
    @mdouglaswray 2 года назад +6

    That Babbit-bearing removal was intense to watch! Definitely a lost art!

  • @FountainCityVol
    @FountainCityVol 2 года назад +1

    Great shot of the second bandsaw. Lighting was superb.

  • @TheMarcball
    @TheMarcball 2 года назад

    Keith, no need for apologies, you're the hardest working man in vintage machinery & peanut bizness.
    Thanks for the inspiration and keep on trucking!

  • @mattthescrapwhisperer
    @mattthescrapwhisperer 2 года назад

    I enjoy the historical research as much as the actual restoration work. Thanks Keith!

  • @jackjacke4654
    @jackjacke4654 2 года назад +8

    The huge molds they made back in those days. Hercules couldn't lift that thing!

  • @bulletproofpepper2
    @bulletproofpepper2 2 года назад

    Thanks for sharing!

  • @Doog513
    @Doog513 2 года назад +5

    Hi Keith, if you want wooden wheels made for the second bandsaw get in touch with Dave from Engels Coach Shop in Montana and he will deffo be able to sort you out with those, he makes them from scratch and what ever diameter you want.

  • @MrRogsmart
    @MrRogsmart 2 года назад

    Even better than the first video. Jimmy is very lucky to have your knowledge and skills applied to this saw.

  • @elsdp-4560
    @elsdp-4560 2 года назад

    Thank you for sharing. Enjoyed.

  • @kentuckytrapper780
    @kentuckytrapper780 2 года назад +1

    Great video Keith, keep'um coming...

  • @davidcantrell5098
    @davidcantrell5098 2 года назад +9

    Keith, take the upper bearing block from that one and cast a copy or 3D scan it so another one can be made for the other saw should you get a wild hair to restore the other one.

    • @MrDmorgan52
      @MrDmorgan52 2 года назад

      Bryan Fuller at Fuller Moto in Tucker has a portable 3D scanner.

  • @nobuckle40
    @nobuckle40 2 года назад +1

    This is a very interesting restoration. I really have an appreciation for the old machines. The work that you are doing is great for posterity sake. Subscribed. 👍

  • @robertbamford8266
    @robertbamford8266 2 года назад +2

    Sounds like “synergy” was as much fun to achieve in the 1890s as it is today. Loved the way they (probably) updated existing inventory post merger. Looking forward to this series.

  • @geckoproductions4128
    @geckoproductions4128 2 года назад

    I really enjoy this history stuff. Thanks for doing the research.

  • @Michael-he7xn
    @Michael-he7xn 2 года назад +2

    Great information!😁👍

  • @danhei
    @danhei 2 года назад

    Great episode, thanks.

  • @marcuscicero9587
    @marcuscicero9587 2 года назад

    great video Mr. Rucker, look forward to your weekly updates

  • @jeremyspecce
    @jeremyspecce 2 года назад +3

    2 things I’ve noticed:
    1: a lot of people are suggesting you get wheels built by Dave Engels
    2: none of those people notice that dozens of other people have already suggested the same thing.

  • @bobitnyre8988
    @bobitnyre8988 2 года назад

    Keith, I sure hope that in your restoration efforts you take numerous pictures of all your steps. I think a book that was heavy on color detailed pictures would be a best seller among those of us who follow your efforts. Wow just wow.

  • @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578
    @floridaflywheelersantiquee7578 2 года назад +1

    Like the history thanks

  • @andrewmantle7627
    @andrewmantle7627 2 года назад

    Thanks Mr. Rucker. Good video.

  • @whitneylake2107
    @whitneylake2107 2 года назад

    Great history ! Thank you

  • @varmint243davev7
    @varmint243davev7 2 года назад

    Thank You !

  • @paulpipitone8357
    @paulpipitone8357 2 года назад +1

    love it keep up the good work

  • @1stummel2
    @1stummel2 2 года назад +2

    Please keep the second bandsaw and restore it. It is such a great peace of engineering.

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 2 года назад

    Wow, beautiful. I'd love to see the planer, perhaps one day. This one is going to be just as fascinating. Thanks for the content.

  • @TomChame
    @TomChame 2 года назад

    Very interesting, thanks.

  • @TheMadJestyr
    @TheMadJestyr 2 года назад +1

    That second saw frame would make a great drill press.

  • @kc8bdr
    @kc8bdr 2 года назад

    I enjoyed the bit of history on both saws hope to see both saws restored.

  • @TheKnacklersWorkshop
    @TheKnacklersWorkshop 2 года назад +2

    Going to be an interesting project Keith...

  • @bustednuckles2
    @bustednuckles2 2 года назад

    God Bless You Keith, you couldn't buy the education we get for free from you.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 2 года назад +1

    Enjoyed the history. I have found it very common pre 1900 for it to typically be listed Cin. O. Some of the finest foundry people to ever live had to have been in Cincinnati from the early 1800's thru the 1950's.

  • @ot9180
    @ot9180 2 года назад

    You, Jimmy and April will go to heaven for sure.

  • @tpobrienjr
    @tpobrienjr 2 года назад

    The story and the shine are already coming through!

  • @philstevens8950
    @philstevens8950 2 года назад

    I was just introduced to your video and enjoyed it very much. Glad this is being restored and was wondering if it could be fitted with some type of roller bearing. Who knows what the next two or three generations will be capable of doing and this saw needs to keep working long after we are gone.
    Love watching these videos.

  • @marcuscicero9587
    @marcuscicero9587 2 года назад

    love the history

  • @Tammy-un3ql
    @Tammy-un3ql 2 года назад

    Thank you👍👍👍👍

  • @chrisbartrum3201
    @chrisbartrum3201 2 года назад

    Looks like Engels Coach Shop would be the perfect partner to make those wheels. Apologies if this has already been suggested.

  • @josephkrug8579
    @josephkrug8579 2 года назад

    I love these videos and look forward to the future where I have a real garage to do fun stuff in as well. :)

  • @merlepatterson
    @merlepatterson 2 года назад +1

    I'd like to see Jimmy partner with Engles Coach Shop to make wheels for the old band saw. That would be an awesome episode.

  • @mgwood6939
    @mgwood6939 2 года назад

    It's called rough cut lumber and you could cut it to dimensional lumber whatever dimension you would like.. just a FYI.. but absolutely beautiful machine and great find

  • @camojoe2
    @camojoe2 2 года назад

    I would love to have that resaw frame. With minimal and reversible modifications, it would make one stout English wheeling machine. Thanks for your time and vid Keith.
    Regards,
    Duck

  • @davidmam
    @davidmam 2 года назад

    that second saw would make great picnic bench at the museum :)

  • @peteb2
    @peteb2 2 года назад +1

    What gets me is that the core frame (if that's the right term) is just the absolute perfect curve shape. It could have been built as some big hulking square ugly thing but i sense the designers off the day were already totally aware of the 'easy on the eye' golden ratio dimensions and have likely applied them here.

  • @jrb_sland5066
    @jrb_sland5066 2 года назад

    Hi Keith - there are 12-step programs for folks who can't resist having antique cast iron follow them home. Seriously, though, you are a wonderful inspiration to me when I feel the need to rescue something from the landfill {surreptitiously, of course}. We ask fellow citizens to recycle, then put barbed wire fences around our garbage dumps. Clear thinking - NOT !

  • @Joe___R
    @Joe___R 2 года назад +1

    On the 2nd bandsaw on either side of the cast name it has holes which were most likely used to hold a name plac. That is why the original name wasn't ground away completely.

  • @johneverson2433
    @johneverson2433 2 года назад +4

    Is it possible that they started calling it the lightning line after they modernized and went to electrical motors to power their saws

  • @broadstken
    @broadstken 2 года назад +3

    where the company name was ground off it looked like there were two screw holes and a ghost outline of a plate that had been removed, possibly the new combined name was on a plate that was added onto the older casting?

    • @jeremyspecce
      @jeremyspecce 2 года назад

      Exactly what I was going to say, definitely looks like an updated nameplate was attached over the ground off lettering.

  • @jacquespoirier9071
    @jacquespoirier9071 2 года назад

    with a bit of TLC, these machines have no end, they are heavy, very well done and always rebuildable. It is an invaluable asset in any woodworking shop that process heavy wood sections as they can be used as a sawmill to shape heavy wood pieces as these used in traditional marine construction.

    • @KimbrellBrad
      @KimbrellBrad 2 года назад +1

      Exactly! Also old wooden and covered bridges, timber frame construction, etc. Very little that those bad boys can't cut!

  • @jacobosgood3513
    @jacobosgood3513 2 года назад

    Definitely keep it original. Good call.

  • @leewilliamson3424
    @leewilliamson3424 2 года назад +1

    Mr. Keith R.
    Back in the day didn't they had too include a drawing with the patent # and the patent office for the United States might still have it on file or in archives some place look for it.
    Love your channel look forward to it every week keeping the past alive.

  • @greybeard3759
    @greybeard3759 2 года назад

    Heresy, I know but, that'd make one heck of an English Wheel!

  • @ron827
    @ron827 2 года назад +1

    The second bandsaw would make one heck of an arbor press.
    Check with Dave Ingels Coach Shop in Joliet, MT, for help with the wooden wheels.

  • @WilliamTMusil
    @WilliamTMusil 2 года назад

    Hiya Keith

  • @casycasy5199
    @casycasy5199 2 года назад +2

    you should get in touch with engels coach shop and make the wheels

  • @colt4667
    @colt4667 2 года назад

    At 7:55 That shield is really neat. Even better than the the Falstaff/Lemp shield.

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut 2 года назад

    Great history... :-)

  • @rexhapgood5000
    @rexhapgood5000 2 года назад

    Keith, shinning different color light on and across the decal may reveal a shadow of the letters. Shinning the light at different angles, with a colored filter and changing the relationship between your eye, the decal and the light. Don't forget to include black light if available. Best of luck if you give it a try.

  • @davidwinokur2131
    @davidwinokur2131 2 года назад +17

    Maybe Dave Engels Coachworks can make the wheels for you.

  • @JourneymanRandy
    @JourneymanRandy 2 года назад

    I enjoyed hearing the history. Keep it up Keith.😀⚒🔩🔧

  • @jimbeaver3426
    @jimbeaver3426 2 года назад

    Instead of sand blasting I'd recommend medium or fine walnut agra blasting material. I'd discuss that with your local shop as it seems much preferred over sand.

  • @r1mein54
    @r1mein54 2 года назад +5

    Look again Keith, where the logo was ground down there are screw holes left and right that held a sign plate - may have been an Egan sign put over the Fay cast letters.

  • @ericcommarato7727
    @ericcommarato7727 2 года назад

    Perhaps a JA Faye and Egan tag was placed over the ground letters by the two holes flanking the original cast letters?

  • @mickdog2
    @mickdog2 2 года назад

    Dave at Engle Coach in Montana might be able to make the wheels. For sure he can steam bend the wood

  • @alabamamanus1
    @alabamamanus1 Год назад

    Sampson Boat Co. used a saw like the 2nd one when they first started restoring Tally Ho.

  • @paulkrueger4419
    @paulkrueger4419 2 года назад

    The lightning line decal that I found is pretty rough, but maybe you can work with what you have…. Good luck Kieth

  • @johnloughrey9485
    @johnloughrey9485 2 года назад

    That other frame would make a great English wheel.

  • @danandyong6653
    @danandyong6653 2 года назад +2

    Do the patents still exist? If so they may include detailed drawings of the "resawing" machines' missing parts

  • @timziegler9358
    @timziegler9358 2 года назад

    There are currently two antique Towsley 36" Band saw wheels for sale on Ebay. Best wishes.

  • @jmrico1979
    @jmrico1979 2 года назад

    Hello Keith, regarding the subject of the machine's serial number and date, if you haven't found that information yet, I would suggest putting J.A Fay & Egan on the title of the video and on the description below, it will improve your chances for someone that has that info coming across your video.

  • @assessor1276
    @assessor1276 2 года назад

    Nothing to apologize for Keith - your fascinating videos are thanks enough.
    QUESTION: would you be able to re-use the original babbitt or is it scrap?

  • @greenmirror5555
    @greenmirror5555 2 года назад

    green sticker would match that original color too. I would also suggest to have the sand blaster stay 2 inches away from machined or babbitt areas finish those after...cover and tape off with plastic or tarps have them do the heavy work and you come in after on the fine areas.

  • @janjrgensen6134
    @janjrgensen6134 Год назад

    You actually see two holes on either side on the casted logo. It might have been grinded off and a plate had been screwed on om top of the casted logo.

  • @walterulasinksi7031
    @walterulasinksi7031 2 года назад +3

    While as you say, the other machine needs more restoration, for some of the missing parts , such as the bearing caps, you could use the caps from this machine as models for new castings. To accomplish this the easiest way is by using a laser scanner on the existing pieces for transfer into the software that you have used to create your 3D models.

    • @carlthor91
      @carlthor91 2 года назад

      If he is an Apple iPhone type the latest one is able to scan items, go figure.

    • @walterulasinksi7031
      @walterulasinksi7031 2 года назад

      @@carlthor91 more power if it can integrate with his 3D software.

    • @carlthor91
      @carlthor91 2 года назад

      @@walterulasinksi7031 It will support the protocol, or it's totally useless.

    • @walterulasinksi7031
      @walterulasinksi7031 2 года назад

      @@carlthor91 since I do not hav such an I Phone nor do I have the 3D printer protocol software that he uses I cannot comment as to the compatibility. If it is compatible, great, an mist definitely less expensive. The only ones I have seen are used by archeologists for 3D replication of skeletal situations such as skulls used for feature modeling.

  • @jwcletcherii7896
    @jwcletcherii7896 2 года назад

    Engles Coach Shop (RUclips channel) may be able to help with wooden wheels. He rebuilt authentic replicas for a museum of the 20 mule team borax wagons & the water wagon.

  • @natedoerfler652
    @natedoerfler652 2 года назад

    Mr. Keith I have a 54 inch band resaw that was made by the Frank Clement company. It is similar to the resaw you have

  • @TheMilwaukieDan
    @TheMilwaukieDan 2 года назад

    That large C frame would be an incredible English Wheel.

  • @garybeasley4885
    @garybeasley4885 2 года назад

    The lead tag may have been made from type metal, a lead alloy that expands on setting and gives a much crisper shape to the casting.

  • @butthole3593
    @butthole3593 2 года назад

    Please more updates on the ban saw

    • @paulcopeland9035
      @paulcopeland9035 2 года назад

      Nope, there no updates available for the "ban" saw.

  • @danandyong6653
    @danandyong6653 2 года назад

    It appears to have 2 rivet holes where a name plate was affixed over the ground off j.a. Eagan area

  • @stephenwade8093
    @stephenwade8093 2 года назад

    You could look up the Trade mark Registration, it may have the Decal displayed.

  • @dbspecials1200
    @dbspecials1200 2 года назад

    Interesting company history. it's like a parent company with 2 divisions. Pontiac and Chevy also were fierce competitors in the muscle car game, both divisions of GM of course. some people don't know the GTO and other hot Pontiacs were designed by John DeLorean.

  • @wescox2769
    @wescox2769 2 года назад +1

    does the top half of the of shaft housing fit the other resaw ?

  • @catfishgray3696
    @catfishgray3696 2 года назад

    GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE, GREAT VIDEO, PET CATS AND DOGS, SEE YOU NEXT TIME...

  • @ngarewyrd
    @ngarewyrd 2 года назад +2

    I am kinda thinking that the second bandsaw frame can be dated somewhere between 1874 to 1888, the reasoning being "the twenty years date" you mentioned, and the earliest non-reissue date was 1868