I've been saying this for years. just go back to the Dallas Cowboys last two playoff games, both were vs GB, 2014, and 2016. the officials can determine the outcome of games now, And they can determine a teams season by setting thier schedule to a certain difficulty.
The point about players trying to hide it when they get concussed/hit in the head, is a good one. Like when you see Julian Edelman get his bell rung in some brutal collisions, and he jumps straight back up to try to show he's not concussed. There are times I've seen him concussed for sure, but because he gets up and continues the play he doesn't get taken out of the game. As a fan of football, I want to see the star players like Cam and Edelman (obviously not as big a star) in the game. Being overly sensitive about safety and concussions could lead to more players hiding the true nature/severity of injuries.
xJoe16- Because it did not lead to points, and K.C. had not only the Mariota Fumble whistle blown too soon, but also the 2 point conversion as well. Refs botched it plain and simple. Not a K.C. fan either.
I don't think the players get to have it both ways. As much as Cam Newton might have wanted to continue playing, the Panthers organization, and the NFL itself has liability issues that they have to think of. In a UFC match, yes, you continue fighting after you've gotten your "bell clocked"... But not for long. Usually, you end up getting knocked out just a few moments later. Also, don't fighters sign waivers? Are NFL players willing to sign waivers?
They talk about how they should just let them play the game and not worry about player safety. I get what they're saying but the NFL has to be shown to do something or they are going to face another multi-million (or billion) dollar lawsuit from players. If the players want to get back to "competition" and not worry about safety so much because this is a combat sport, then they need to stop suing the NFL. To be clear, I don't have a problem with the lawsuit, but you can't have it both ways.
This guy lost his mind. The fat guy, talking about playing through concussions. There's definitely technology that can be used to measure impacts, that should be considered.
Cam Newton couldn’t walk off the field without falling over. If it was a minor eye thing, he would’ve been able to walk to the sideline and deal with it there. But he collapsed trying to walk off the field. He should’ve been pulled immediately until cleared from Concussion protocol. Violating that should result in a monetary fine and loss of draft pick. I understand that this is an important game, but player safety is the main issue the NFL is dealing with right now, and allowing players to play through concussions only makes things worse. After all, these guys are human beings who will have a life after football, at least if they aren’t mentally incapacitated. P.S. There’s a huge difference between “Contact” Sports and “Combat” Sports.
Zech Rojas there is a difference but in boxing the goal is to land the most clean shots, not to injure anyone. Injury is uncommon and the ref or doctor can stop or pause fights whenever they see fit. mma isn't judged on hurting someone either as far as I know.
Did we forget the $765M settlement the NFL paid in the ex-players concussions suit? Of course they [NFL] will press the concussion issue to protect themselves. I don't blame them. Player safety is #2 after the bottom line.
Concussion protocol doesn't impact live play and needs to be followed full stop Protect the players from themselves or the sport will end If taking a knee came from the sideline to game the system then they should pay the price of missing the player a few plays
When the team you expect to win, loses, we start to highlight all the reasons how they lost. You say the officials are killing the game by over officiating, but the game has changed now. Yes player safety is paramount, due to the concussion rule. Players committing suicide, complaining about headaches, families destroyed due to abuse from players in retirement, all this pointed to the head knocks taken in the game. Something had to be done or the game could end up in high court!..
it not a combat sport dude lol its and impact sport if the nfl was a combat sport i would watch every game. See a lb stand up and get smack by a rb when they stand.
boricua316 so is a tackle not a form of combat? Or a swim move or a rip move? Men that average 225lbs and run 4.5 40s are smacking into each other for an hour straight. Tell me what separates the two?
Cam said after the game that his visor was pushed in because somebody's stomach hit his face when he got taken down and that the visor hit him in the eye. I didn't see it myself - looked like he just took a massive hit - but that's what he claims...
Whitlocks argument about football compared to mma and boxing is flawed. In boxing and mma your ultimate goal is to knock the other guy out or chock him out. Disconnect him from consciousness. In football the goal is to score points not hurt people. Thats the biggest difference
Lol nfl is stupid. I don’t get why it’s so complicated down there. Y’all say the cfl is bush league but it’s close enough to the nfl that it’s worth it when you don’t have to worry about what a catch is or the rules.
Did everyone just ignore the Kelce fumble too? It’s not like it only happened to KC.. TEN forced a clear fumble as well but that gets ignored.. why does the KC one only matter? Oh because 99% of these guys picked KC and they feel that was a moment that ruined their pick.. Tough.. Bad calls happen.. Give TEN some credit for going into KC and beating them FFS..
Yea but my point is TEN could have scored off that turnover.. Being down that big early in the playoffs, they could have used that.. It's no matter now anyway, they still won..
I've been saying this for years. just go back to the Dallas Cowboys last two playoff games, both were vs GB, 2014, and 2016. the officials can determine the outcome of games now, And they can determine a teams season by setting thier schedule to a certain difficulty.
It’s kinda funny to hear 4 guys who are not concussion experts discussing severity of hits and concussions like they are experts.
I might be wrong but didn't these rules come about because the football union was complaining about the brain injuries from former players?
Martin Moenning That and the league doing A CYA move cause of the lawsuits that were happening around that time
Martin Moenning the Union was upset that the NFL lied and hid information concerning brain trauma
You are 100% correct
Easy for Whitlock to talk when he's not the one paying out billions in injury settlements.
Problem is we don’t know how much damage happens even if it’s not a true concussion
The point about players trying to hide it when they get concussed/hit in the head, is a good one. Like when you see Julian Edelman get his bell rung in some brutal collisions, and he jumps straight back up to try to show he's not concussed. There are times I've seen him concussed for sure, but because he gets up and continues the play he doesn't get taken out of the game.
As a fan of football, I want to see the star players like Cam and Edelman (obviously not as big a star) in the game. Being overly sensitive about safety and concussions could lead to more players hiding the true nature/severity of injuries.
Very true.
Why is nobody talking about Kelce fumbling? The hit where he got knocked out he fumbled the ball after the hit and was a clear runner..
xJoe16- Because it did not lead to points, and K.C. had not only the Mariota Fumble whistle blown too soon, but also the 2 point conversion as well. Refs botched it plain and simple. Not a K.C. fan either.
colin's face at 7:07 tho
LOL, that dirty smile.
In boxing & mma. Ref STOPS fights all the time with a TKO if a fighter is in trouble
SMH. Korey Stringer died of heatstroke during ota's. After his death, the NFL & the player's union decided to change the rules.
It's ABOUT WORKPLACE SAFETY, YOU OVERPAID BUMS
something something about divorce and bad movies
Whitlock is actually talkin' with some sense!
I don't think the players get to have it both ways. As much as Cam Newton might have wanted to continue playing, the Panthers organization, and the NFL itself has liability issues that they have to think of. In a UFC match, yes, you continue fighting after you've gotten your "bell clocked"... But not for long. Usually, you end up getting knocked out just a few moments later. Also, don't fighters sign waivers? Are NFL players willing to sign waivers?
They talk about how they should just let them play the game and not worry about player safety. I get what they're saying but the NFL has to be shown to do something or they are going to face another multi-million (or billion) dollar lawsuit from players. If the players want to get back to "competition" and not worry about safety so much because this is a combat sport, then they need to stop suing the NFL.
To be clear, I don't have a problem with the lawsuit, but you can't have it both ways.
This guy lost his mind. The fat guy, talking about playing through concussions. There's definitely technology that can be used to measure impacts, that should be considered.
Cam Newton couldn’t walk off the field without falling over. If it was a minor eye thing, he would’ve been able to walk to the sideline and deal with it there. But he collapsed trying to walk off the field. He should’ve been pulled immediately until cleared from Concussion protocol. Violating that should result in a monetary fine and loss of draft pick. I understand that this is an important game, but player safety is the main issue the NFL is dealing with right now, and allowing players to play through concussions only makes things worse. After all, these guys are human beings who will have a life after football, at least if they aren’t mentally incapacitated.
P.S. There’s a huge difference between “Contact” Sports and “Combat” Sports.
ZombieLegacy and what's the difference? Aren't both entities trying to inflict harm to cease progression of another?
CamMcCoy87 big difference kid. One is specifically trying to bring physical harm. In fact your judged on it. How is that hard to understand? Smh
Zech Rojas there is a difference but in boxing the goal is to land the most clean shots, not to injure anyone. Injury is uncommon and the ref or doctor can stop or pause fights whenever they see fit. mma isn't judged on hurting someone either as far as I know.
ZombieLegacy if you watched Cam walk off the field and thought that he was concussed, you’ve never played football
ZombieLegacy you clearly didn’t play football. If you did you’d know that football isn’t a contact or combat sport
Did we forget the $765M settlement the NFL paid in the ex-players concussions suit? Of course they [NFL] will press the concussion issue to protect themselves. I don't blame them. Player safety is #2 after the bottom line.
Concussion protocol doesn't impact live play and needs to be followed full stop
Protect the players from themselves or the sport will end
If taking a knee came from the sideline to game the system then they should pay the price of missing the player a few plays
When the team you expect to win, loses, we start to highlight all the reasons how they lost. You say the officials are killing the game by over officiating, but the game has changed now. Yes player safety is paramount, due to the concussion rule. Players committing suicide, complaining about headaches, families destroyed due to abuse from players in retirement, all this pointed to the head knocks taken in the game. Something had to be done or the game could end up in high court!..
it not a combat sport dude lol its and impact sport if the nfl was a combat sport i would watch every game. See a lb stand up and get smack by a rb when they stand.
boricua316 youre wrong
They do more than punch each other you just dont see it specially in the bottom of those piles of players fighting for a ball lol.
Arturo Villarreal perfect still not a combat sport.
I think what you're trying to say that is a collision sport if you would of said that i would've agreed so...ur still wrong .
boricua316 so is a tackle not a form of combat? Or a swim move or a rip move? Men that average 225lbs and run 4.5 40s are smacking into each other for an hour straight. Tell me what separates the two?
Make all NFL players sign a liability waiver. Problem Solved.
So the Refs are trying to protect the players. But Gronk gets 1 game suspension for purposefully injuring another player, way after the play. Ok.
Cam was not hit in the stomach. What is Gonzales talking about?
Cam said after the game that his visor was pushed in because somebody's stomach hit his face when he got taken down and that the visor hit him in the eye. I didn't see it myself - looked like he just took a massive hit - but that's what he claims...
RealRuler2112 yeah, honestly he took a really hard hit, I wouldn’t be surprised if he knocked some sense out of him
They call it speak for yourself but they all have the same opinion
Former players and families are suing the league for their brain injuries, so of course they are going to be extra cautious now.
Whitlocks argument about football compared to mma and boxing is flawed. In boxing and mma your ultimate goal is to knock the other guy out or chock him out. Disconnect him from consciousness. In football the goal is to score points not hurt people. Thats the biggest difference
I really can’t stand Whitlock don’t Tony as analysts either
authenic jamie no one cares dude
WHITLOCKKKKK COMIN IN HOTTT
no one could even touch that
haters being blaming the patriots for excuses. XD
Lol nfl is stupid. I don’t get why it’s so complicated down there. Y’all say the cfl is bush league but it’s close enough to the nfl that it’s worth it when you don’t have to worry about what a catch is or the rules.
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Did everyone just ignore the Kelce fumble too? It’s not like it only happened to KC.. TEN forced a clear fumble as well but that gets ignored.. why does the KC one only matter? Oh because 99% of these guys picked KC and they feel that was a moment that ruined their pick.. Tough.. Bad calls happen.. Give TEN some credit for going into KC and beating them FFS..
SimpleSports I remember that, but kc didn't score after that drive
Yea but my point is TEN could have scored off that turnover.. Being down that big early in the playoffs, they could have used that.. It's no matter now anyway, they still won..
Also people are saying Kelce was a helmet to helmet and a missed call when he caught the ball about 5 yards before and started running up field,