Chapeau Short: the 50 Mission Crush Cap

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  • Опубликовано: 12 сен 2024
  • Why did US airmen in WWII have caps that looked like they were soft and foldable? Let me explain.
    And a big thank you to Alexandre Grieve and La Normandie en Biplan for the flight, if you're interested, here is his site
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    And a quick explanation inEnglish
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Комментарии • 39

  • @vonpfrentsch
    @vonpfrentsch 10 месяцев назад +22

    What a nice idea to do the video on a plane! Despite the fact that the mic didn´t work perfectly, it was a great footage!

  • @pbingre
    @pbingre 10 месяцев назад +7

    Very nice video. WWII Kriegsmarine U-boat commanders also wore crushed visor caps.

  • @gerardoramoncesarreynaldo9469
    @gerardoramoncesarreynaldo9469 9 месяцев назад +5

    Hey, General Douglas MacArthur was also famous for his crushed dress cap. This was said to be part of his 'costume": faded khakis, Aviator Raybans and corncob pipe. His ensemble was in direct contrast to Patton's polished helmet and revolvers...

    • @billhuber2964
      @billhuber2964 6 месяцев назад

      He was a general. They can do what they want 😂.

  • @SnepperStepTV
    @SnepperStepTV 5 месяцев назад +3

    Not sure where to suggest episodes but here's a couple hats i'd love to learn more about: greek fisherman cap, beret, canadian trapper hat, visor caps (like what the crusher caps start as), outback leather hat, (1970s) trucker cap, and pillbox hats. In general, it'd be great to learn more about womens' hats that didn't have a menswear cousin.
    Love the channel, and I'm learning a lot! I tip my hat to you too

  • @namazuki-sq5jf
    @namazuki-sq5jf 10 месяцев назад +10

    i always wondered why the dress caps had that shape i always thought it was a style choice i don't own one like that so i haven't looked for information about it i think it's a shame because i like the look of that one more than the regular shape

  • @bikegames0
    @bikegames0 10 месяцев назад +6

    Awesome despite the microphone! Well done, sir.

  • @KingfisherTalkingPictures
    @KingfisherTalkingPictures 10 месяцев назад +3

    Fascinating! I knew the look, but not the mechanics. Thanks!

  • @bretthewitt3890
    @bretthewitt3890 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video! I have two 50 Mission caps. One is named to a B-29 pilot and another to a B-25 pilot. I have the real headphones also. These caps were made by many different companies, but the lightest and most comfortable was the Bancroft Flighter. The inner frame was actually wicker! They tend to get really brittle with age. Also many theatre made caps had an oversized crest. Enlisted air crew also commonly wore these caps just without the officer badge, but more commonly used the"C" cap, leather wool lined cap or a regular flight helmet.

  • @Rebel-Forces-Earth-007
    @Rebel-Forces-Earth-007 8 месяцев назад +2

    There is a long and proud tradition in the US army, going back to WWII, of flagrant disregard for uniform standards, authority, orders, discipline, and an almost rebellious nature and individualistic culture going back to the Revolutionary war. It's what make the US military so unique. You can see it in the way "nose art" was allowed and added to be painted on the front of B-17, B-24, and B-29 bombers, as well other planes, or even helicopters during the Korean and Vietnam wars.

  • @JH-lo9ut
    @JH-lo9ut 5 месяцев назад +2

    Hey that's one cool looking cap.
    Please do an episode on the leather aviator's cap (wich I guess is also a motocycle/racecar cap?)
    It is a type of headwear we don't see so often nowadays, because you know, helmets. They are pretty cool though. I used to wear one during the winter when I was a child.

  • @InVacuo
    @InVacuo 5 месяцев назад

    Awesome episode! 😄

  • @minuteman4199
    @minuteman4199 5 месяцев назад +1

    Not exactly the same but similar. When I as in the army I was a tank crewman and we wore berets. We usually had one we wore in the field which was beaten and worn out and faded, and a second one to wear when we were on base, since the field berets looked out of place with a clean shiny uniform and the clean hat would look out of place when we were on the tanks.

  • @aarondevaldez9134
    @aarondevaldez9134 4 месяца назад

    As a pilot myself, I appreciate this!

  • @hhvictor2462
    @hhvictor2462 Месяц назад

    Seen the cap worn in many war movies , TV shows, and documentaries but didn't know its name.

  • @cf6282
    @cf6282 4 месяца назад

    “Green” pilots had the grommet still in their caps I would think. Veterans had worn the caps longer. You did not want to be seen as a rookie pilot for sure. But the young pilots aged quickly. Many fellow airmen were lost of course. If you completed a tour…50 operational mission you were going home to train other pilots and crewmen. The battered hat was a testimony that you had done your duty and survived. Your experience was much appreciated and handed down to the rookie pilots….the experience improved your chances of survival and battle effectiveness.

  • @alittlebitgone
    @alittlebitgone Месяц назад

    "In my fifty-mission cap
    I worked it in
    I worked it in to look like that
    It's my fifty-mission cap"

  • @Fgeri623
    @Fgeri623 6 месяцев назад +2

    In one of your next videos you should wear a medieval helmet inside a castle! 😃

  • @davidlanfranchi8955
    @davidlanfranchi8955 7 месяцев назад

    Another point of intetest: for an unpressurized bomber like the B-17 or the B-24, its cold at altitude. But you could get away with wearing the cap in some circumstances because its considerably warmer in the cockpit and nose of the aircraft. This is also where your offerciers would be (pilot, copilot, bombardier , navigator). Once you move aft, the open waist gun positions made the bomber quite windy an REALLY cold.

  • @chedelirio6984
    @chedelirio6984 5 месяцев назад

    Having the current Army uniform version include the option of a retro pre-crushed cap -- which I see a lot working around Washington DC-- does seem to be kind of missing the point. You now sometimes see ones that are too obviously deliberately pre-crushed in a certain fashion that does not look natural.

  • @frybodelgado1482
    @frybodelgado1482 5 месяцев назад

    Wonderful Video, thank you!
    I am looking for a decent Replica at the moment - you wouldn't happen to have a Link to where you got yours from by any chance...?

    • @hathistorianjc
      @hathistorianjc  5 месяцев назад +1

      www.doursoux.com/en/caps/626-officer-s-cap-0.html

    • @frybodelgado1482
      @frybodelgado1482 5 месяцев назад

      @@hathistorianjc Thank you so much!!!
      You wont believe what bad luck i have to find a decent maker! They are all JUST out of Business or have been for years now.
      ... and would you know, I got lucky and you sent me your wonderful Link and everything seems perfect and now... my sizes are "Out of Stock"... I just don't even....

    • @hathistorianjc
      @hathistorianjc  5 месяцев назад

      ruclips.net/video/5F_q8J9O8-0/видео.html

  • @gregoryszuter8313
    @gregoryszuter8313 6 месяцев назад

    Similar to the 5 point billed cap worn in US by police

  • @generybarczyk6993
    @generybarczyk6993 5 месяцев назад

    Might I be so bold as to recommend using a voiceover.

  • @nozrep
    @nozrep 6 месяцев назад

    holy moly he is a pilot too😂 awesome

    • @hathistorianjc
      @hathistorianjc  6 месяцев назад +1

      Hahaha, sorry to disappoint, I'm not the one piloting, my friend in the back seat is. I can drive a combine though!

  • @JacksonHess-jc4il
    @JacksonHess-jc4il 10 месяцев назад +1

    Why do you make videos in English and French?

    • @hathistorianjc
      @hathistorianjc  10 месяцев назад +12

      Because I speak both and so that way both English and French speakers can enjoy them

    • @JacksonHess-jc4il
      @JacksonHess-jc4il 10 месяцев назад

      Got it.@@hathistorianjc

  • @Franklin-pc3xd
    @Franklin-pc3xd 6 месяцев назад

    However, I thought pilots, at least the bomber pilots, of WW.2 typically flew a max of 25 missions per tour.... and most only flew one tour.. or less...most actually didn't make it to 25.

    • @stewartmacwilliam7160
      @stewartmacwilliam7160 6 месяцев назад +3

      The theoretical rotation home was 25 in Europe, due to the very high volume of fighter and AA defenses. USAAF pilots in the Pacific Theater (like my father) were expected to fly 50 missions.
      I have a few wonderful pictures of my dad in his crushed cap.

  • @resolute123
    @resolute123 10 месяцев назад +1

    I always assume Army Air Corps pilot's simply wore without the stiffener to look my flamboyant. Did know there was a practical reason. Also, didn't know the were required to wear the garrison uniform when conducting missions. How impractical by today's standards.

    • @rediius
      @rediius 7 месяцев назад +1

      General Patton famously tried fining soldiers a half month worth of wages if he found them with helmets unstrapped even at the latrine, or fighting without their neckties worn properly. One of the small reminders that before being an armored tank commander, he was a horse cavalry officer that chased Pancho Villa through Mexico and helped design the Army's final cavalry saber before the first World War. He was an old fashioned officer with old fashioned ideas. What you call impractical he would have considered discipline.

    • @resolute123
      @resolute123 2 месяца назад

      @@rediius Very true. There's an old Army saying, "No field soldier ever passed inspection in garrison, and no garrison soldier ever pass combat in the field."

    • @rediius
      @rediius 2 месяца назад

      @@resolute123 Old is relative, I guess. First version of Murphy's rules of combat came out in 1977, and even those are a play on Murphy's rule from the 1950s. Even into the mid 1910s, armies would literally go into combat wearing shiny parade armor and colorful, inspection-ready uniforms, into the age of machine guns and field artillery. Consider that the oldest people alive today can still remember meeting those absolute mad lads in the flesh, and that before then, for most of human history, inspection ready and combat ready were synonymous.

  • @Glenboi
    @Glenboi 8 месяцев назад +1

    Sorry but that audio made this unwatchable for me. The rest of your videos are awesome tho.

  • @talltanbarbie5136
    @talltanbarbie5136 6 месяцев назад

    Can you do a story on the peaked cap and how it came and went? Seems the Russian army was the first to adopt it in the early 1800s, then some German units, then the US Army in the 1840s -- but then it was discarded and returned in the late 1800s. Also, why do some Asian countries have almost Buddhist monk looking version of the peaked cap with a large bowl top? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaked_cap