Shimano XTR PD-M9000 SPD Pedals In 52 Pieces. In-Depth Overhaul. Greasing, Assembly.
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- How to make the basic bearing service and how to make a full overhaul of the Shimano XTR M9000 pedals. Have fun!
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Some tips I've learned:
- You can insert the two springs and the tensioner bolt and thread the axle through those
- A screwdriver helps to push the jaw away when installing the cover plate
- Check the bearing surfaces for pitting or play before regreasing
Thanks I just upgraded 4 of my bikes to Shimano XTR PD-M9100's. This video really helped mainly because Shimano spring tensions are horribly unreliable matching pedal to pedal. With the tension screw all the way down on both new r/l pedals, then using a little little crescent wrench to measure the tension on either side maybe even 3 to 5 clicks tighter than on the other side. Or one pedal both sides very much tighter than the matching pedal. The only good fix for this is loosening the over tight springs by bending them because you can't just tighten up the other side or pedal for all to match or you get a pedal that with springs with too much preload. Hense, on every set (still after all these years) of XTRs' (amazingly almost never have to do on XT level), I have to do the loosening procedure. So this video helps when I have a spring that slips past the pressure plate in my procedure and have to take it apart to rebuild.
Btw, not old cleats cause remember, i am measuring the tensions by hand not just with the cleat popping out. I kinda with with all the work this has been would just have gone with the Xt8000's, but the 9100's slightly wider pedal body is work it with thousands of revolutions a year.
It's good you went for the m9100, the m9000's bearings can be dodgy, I'm on my second axle on the rh side and it's a common issue, I've been servicing SPD's since my first pair in 1990, to sickbikers level of strip, m9000's have the most unreliable bearings of all SPD's.... Warn your friends! 😂
Much more complicated than you'd think!
It's actually same stuff, as on the M520...
@@cannondany Yeh and the M540 I assume. I used your video to put together my M520 I had pulled apart without taking pictures like I usually do. Was struggling with how to put the springs back on and consequently the adjuster back in. This video saved me.
You might consider adding M540 and M520 into the title?
Coincidently the spindle on the M545 is actually the same, so the M520 can be "upgraded" to something more solid (albeit 7g heavier per spindle) if you want to sacrifice the M545 (I had a broken pair).
Thank-you you for taking the time to make a clear and concise video; I'm forever grateful!
Great video! I was struggling with the spring reassembly. Thanks!
I accidentally bought Eggbeater Titanium Axle for my Shimano M540 SPD pedal, after seeing your detailed video instructions, I was able to install the titanium axle with a washer.
It had different end-screw, instead of 8mm hex nut, it had 4mm allen bolt at the end, and only required a washer to do the same trick. So I added aluminum one for extra 1g, lol!
Thanks for the video, otherwise I wouldn't bother opening and just would've sold my M540.
Great service! Viva la SickBiker!
thank you for actually taking it apart
Waouh you're a warrior of disassembly / assembly, thanks a lot I'm going to do now !!. Good film like a pro!!.
The outer rubber seal should sit in the deepening you already pushed it over - not that far out.
But thanks for the video! Just overhauled my PD-M780 pedals accordingly 🙂 Incredible how much refined the XTR appear over the XT in some details (housing, bearing, screws). The XT comes with 12 balls per bearing, btw 😉
Was thinking of painting my M8020 XT's. This is very helpful. Thank you! Now to find a durable paint...
plasti dip - it :)
Wont last
@@luigirs3 Yea.. didn't think it would. Didn't do it.
This is very useful. I always serviced Shimano pedals by unscrewing the body from axle, wiping axle, wiping inside the body, then filling the body with new grease and screwing it back on the axle. This pushes out the dirty old grease through the bearings and the seal using new grease, you need to push the seal back in afterwards for this pedal, or not, since it is probably going to come out again anyway. If grease coming out is still dirty, I'd unscrew the body and fill it with new grease again, and repeat until only clean grease is coming out. It's probably not the best way and adds resistance from having the pedal completely full of grease, but it was quick to do, so I could do it more often. But I had the 8mm bearing race just crack and fail on one of my pedals after about 5 years, can't find just that part, so getting new axle assembly.
The bearings can be obtained from an engineering supplies store which is what I do . SKF and NITTO bearings are what I use .
The bearing code is on one of the seals . A magnifying lens or diopter lamp are required to read the small font , however .
una obra de arte ese pedal
Nice video. Gives me the confidence to do it myself. Thank you.
Did you find where to buy axle seal ring? I need one, too.
That is a great vid. Just what I needed to see before servicing my pedals. Thank you
Thanks for sharing dude. I've been looking for this breakdown video for spd. You're awesome 👍
Awesome - thanks a lot for the detail!
Super video!
thank you you saved me with my new xtr pedals
in depth comparison parts of M9100 PD and M9000.
what are the difference besides the looks
Very good video.
Nice vid
This would have been a much better 15 minute video. Pare down what you want to cover, and stick to that. Otherwise, a pretty good video with great image quality showing great detail in an exploded view. Oh, and high marks for cleanliness. Some of these videos give me nightmares. NO dirt or debris is acceptable in bearings. Kudos!
Great video 😁
I think there is some problems with the xtr m9000 and shimano are honòuring waŕranty returns. How about Some silicon on the spindle thread just a smaĺl amount on the last couple of threads.
The thread isn't a problem there. It is rather the bushing sealed with a tiny little rubber.
@@cannondany put a small tiewrap next to the seal and problem solve🤙🏼
Rebuilding 515 , 520 , 535 and 540 can be tricky enough , especially with bearing preload . I have done all of these earlier this year .
greate video! thx alot!
Thanks for this, only source I can find that showed how to reassemble the spring assembly. I did end up putting the adjuster screw in wrong (backwards with the square plate edge facing out rather than in. Will this be a problem? It seems to adjust the tension and everything fine.
do you know where to get replacment seal?
Where did you buy yours?
@@luigirs3 online
@@ubersenton2107 cool where
Great info dude. Many thanks
Is this basically the same spec for the PD-M8000 pedal? Thanks
@SickBiker czy wiesz moze jakie oznaczenie ma śrubka do regulacji siły wpięcia? Czy można ją gdzieś kupic? W moim wyrobiło sie gniazdo i nie jestem w stanie kręcić imbusem.
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Genial!
my seal always gets pushed out when putting the bearing assembly back together.. any solutions? i managed to keep the seal in once by using less grease but after the first ride it worked itself out again... any recommendations?
Electric tape on the spindles.
You installed seal another side. Check Shimano manual. This rubber seal is not symmetrical!! So body cup also is not symmetrical. But body cup installed right way.
Perfeito. Obrigado
good way to teach taking the pedals off is tighten is the way the wheel rolls. I think the bearings are 3/32...i'll have to verify.
Hi @sickbiker do you know where can we find the exploded spare parts view of XTR pedals ? Thx
thank you for this very goog video... one question left: How or with what do you lubricate the springs of the click system?
Overhaul next,you asked! Please do it at an SRAM AXS Deraileur.
Great video.
Did you ever think about modifying the pedals, so that they Work like speedplay. Then you could easely pump new grease in the pedal.
For m540 please
This will help :) ruclips.net/video/BF_qO2D0Trk/видео.html
You are the best
How many millineters for the ball bearing...I need to buy a bearing...tnx
Has anyone been able to find a replacement piece for the rubber seal? I took mine apart and it wasn't even there.
Wondering if there's some sort of o ring or something that you could repurpose for this.
try asking Shimano. maybe they have it and you can order it on them
Did you find the replacements?
@sickbiker is it possible to buy a replacement tension adjustment bolt ?
where can i buy a tension adjuster bolt? my tension adjuster bolt is broken
That's one of my problem
Hi sir can i know the exact size of the bearing inside the pedals thank you
my m9100 seal keeps popping out (new) after each ride. have you experience that?
Same less than 1 min and inspecting…it’s coming out
@@samuraioodon after 1K Km, one side still pops out, the other side remains after the ride.
Hello, i have the XTR M9100, and lost the adjustment bolt and the adjustment plate, any idea if i can buy those separately, also i’ve been looking at diagrams but has not able to find the part number, not sure if you can help me with this, thank you in advance
Buy a cheap Shimano SPD pedal that has the same mechanism (most likely they are the same), then take the adjustment bolt from the cheap SPD then put it to your XTR.
Try sjs cycles, they have loads of Shimano spares, I just had a look, they have adjustment plates and tension screws, you'll have to contact them for availability
Useful tutorial thank you
520 pedals for the win
could you do this same video but for the spd sl?
hub grease = bearing grease?
Agree with your comment re poor quality seal. After my first ride with these pedals, the seal had migrated inward with a lot of grease egress.
Love that you service these. Why on earth are replacement parts not easily available. I found your video after a rock strike broke off the cleat retaining clip. I can’t find a replacement anywhere as yet. Yes I can afford to replace, but it seems such a waste when we should be recycling / re-using and repairing.
Thanks again for posting the video. Helped me fix my broken pedal 🙏
I used an old pair of PD-M520 pedals for the replacement part I needed. These are about £25, so if I’d not had, they’re a far cheaper alternative to replacing XTR pedals … in case anyone ever searches this post
I understand that it’s Shimano who don’t supply spares to distributors. I suspect they want people to buy new instead of ‘sweating’ parts over years while servicing and replacing individual parts. Commercial gain wins!
Isn't all that maintenance kind of useless if you don't replace those broken rubber seals that keep all the mud and sand out of the pedal body? I mean they might be better for a while until the sand particles and moisture work its way pass that broken seal again. Also do you know what those seals and bearings do cost if you replace them? Is the replacing them wise to do or is the price so high that its almost cheaper to buy new pedals?
Not cheaper for a pair of XTR's that's for sure.
@@brethoekstra9001 You can get spare complete axles but it still isn't cost efficient. I've had three sets of these pedals. one broken body at cleat spindle, one broken axle and the third set the seals are working there way out due to body movement/wear. I have come to the conclusion that they are a rubbish design. Mike J is correct, you can rebuild as in the video but it won't last long unless you can get hold of the parts.
@@elmo2001lou the m9100's are far better, I have m9000's and I'm on a new rh axle after 2000 miles, the most unreliable SPD's I've ever owned with the m9000's and I've been using SPD's for over 30 years, I'm trying a o-ring seal on my m9000's to see if it helps, I'll let you know how I get on, shouldn't be long, it's winter out.....
@@threefeetpete2010 any update?
How about road bike pedals?
Hello sir can i dm your for replacement parts?
You are correct. That seal is pathetic and it is not readily available as far as I can tell. It is the same seal my $55 shimano pedal use and does a poor job at sealing. This is a poor offering for a company like shimano on a premium pedal. Spare parts should be available at a minimum. My pedals had 12 + 12 ball bearings.
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What a pain in the neck to get the tension screw and plate back in! I absolutely would not do those all the time! Cause to much damage and not easy to get back in!
The method in the video he teaches is wrong. You can thread the axle through the two springs and tensioner bolt. To install the plate, you can use a screwdriver to push the jaw away so the plate can push it in its place.
are M9100 pretty much the same?
they have new bearing and axle sealing rubber too compared to M9000
Yeah..new seal..that fall off too..
@@Cylcopath_GR yup 🤦🏻♂️
0:38 - the seal is already went out...
11 small bearings
Hey, why paying for xtr when m520 are bullet proof. Yes weight, but lets be honest, if you want light pedals you have to look into other brands
If you want to use Shimano cleats with all your bikes your only option is to have XTR if you want lightest pedals they offer. Like I have same cleats for my Enduro, XC and Trekking bikes so I can use the same shoes for all of them but having Wider XTR on Enduro, those smaller XTR in XC and clipless on one side and flat on the other in my trekking bike in case I want to go with normal shoes some time too. In my opinion Shimano has covered all the cycling types very well and you can get spare parts to those from almost any bike shop around the world so I kind of don't see a point to have anything else unless you do only racing and seeking the lightest option out there.
Weight and mud clearing mainly, the xtr clear mud alot easier
@@threefeetpete2010 does it? I don't know if your statement is true but I do doubt it since both have same clamping/cleet system
Crank Brothers is better than Shimano Pedals. Easier to maintain and has better rubber seals and Crank Brothers is Sealed Bearing.
They use a plain bearing in crank brothers pedals, much like onza pedals did years ago, they have loads of mechanical drag because of that, no thanks
Wrong!! can't compare with Crank Brothers, Shimano Spds has a way better system..
naked ball bearing??? in 2020 high-end-XTR pedals??
It turns me off immediately...
Nothing wrong with it trust me!
Shimano dura ace track also use free ball bearing too
I used these pedals on my all-road bicycle. No trails, no rocks, nothing.. XTR and Dura Ace have 3 years warranty. 3 years and 2 months after buying them, one of the parts holding the cleat, the ones pushed by the springs, split in half while riding casually. The grain of the metal was pretty coarse, indicating poor material quality or a defect in the metal treatment.
The store told me -literally- that things break, buy new ones. They didn't help me at all. Shimano didn't even bother to answer.
They don't sell that spare, but you can take it from another Shimano pedal or buy the cheapest ones (520) for spares, they are exactly identical, it's a bit tricky to replace, but you don't need special tools, there's a video explaining the procedure on youtube.
Shimano quality is not what it was, it's not only their infamous cranks... They don't adapt to new technologies and standards either. These pedals still use cone bearings! In 2023, just ridiculous. Once you get some dirt inside, the cones get scratched and the whole thing has to go in the bin.
I recommend XPEDO CXR instead. They are cheaper, lighter, SPD compatible (you can use the same cleats if you rent a bicycle with shimano pedals) and they are more reliable. They also have 3 ball bearings on each pedal. Easier to service and if one gets damaged you just put a new one in and pedals will be like new. On top of that, you can use them to do the hack with Favero Assioma pedals.
You made one mistake - you did not check the spindle and balls. Pitting may be on the surface. This is the basic principle during bearing maintenance.
Agree.