Ukraine passes historic bill banning Orthodox church tied to Moscow
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Ukrainian President Zelenskyy called this bill a law for their “spiritual independence.”
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It is sad that political differences are causing the Eastern Orthodox Churches to persecute each other. As always, pray for unity.
What national churches does to countries.
정치인은 종교에 개입해서는 안 된다
@@user-li1tb3od8l글쎄요, 당신은 국가적 기독교 원하시나요? 아니면 국가적 세속 종교를 원하시나요?
@@brentlunger9738 well it wouldn't have needed if the FSB didn't use the ruzzian church to spy
The Orthodox Church of Ukraine is a SECT
Jesus warned us these things were coming.....
churches connected to moscow tend to pop up right next to a military base all around europe its in the CIA report and most of the catholic church knows it thats why the pope is being called out by our bishops
This is the work of the enemy.
May Christ unite us, not divide us. Let there be one people for One God. May there be an end to wars everwhere.
Jews are causing this
Say what you will about Russia, but banning something simply because it's associated with Russia and for no other reason is ridiculous.
Edit: I am an atheist. This has nothing to do with religion and everything to do with the fact that this has nothing whatsoever to do with the conflict.
no it's not 'simply' cuz of ruzzia but cuz the ruzzian church is used by the FSB to spy on ukraine.
@@udikkemoederThe Russian Orthodox Church is the true Church. There is ko other
Maybe they had a cause for this. Maybe you should search a bit in the internet what this "church" did.
@@alexpanagiotis4706 for murderers, rapists, thiefs and liars yes
@@AS-np3yq We have freedom of religion in europe! I can be Buddhist, muslim, jew, orthodox, ....
This is not a controversial law, this is an act of persecution of the largest church in Ukraine.
This is not an act of persecution, this is prohibition on FSB agentura acting in Ukraine.
@@avenger4027 they are baselessly blaming all clergy and worshippers of Christ
@@croatballzack FSB in robes are no worshippers of Christ, unless you think that it's very "Christian" to incite hatred towards Ukraine and the West, to endorse a homosexual dictator that diddles his bodyguards and has opposition forces thrown out of windows, to endorse a war that kills actual Christians (Ukrainians) and, of course, transform churches into munition depots for the invading Muscovite army.
@@avenger4027 The only thing that the puppet regime wants from us is to join state church - then all accusations of being fsb agents are dropped. How come? 😉
@@croatballzack churches connected to moscow tend to pop up right next to a military base all around europe its in the CIA report and most of the catholic church knows it thats why the pope is being called out by our bishops
A schism only schisms further.
Like roman catholicism
It's a good thing. That happens when corruption is on the way. Instead of people thinking they are perfect, maybe for once they will humble themselves.
@@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos wow what a sigma orthobro!
@@harrisonphillips8365 Forget the RCC
Bulshi+! If the Catholic Church had started supporting Russia thwn Ukraine would have baned them too.
Obviously Ukraine has abondoned the idea of reuniting with Eastern Ukraine otherwise they would not treat their religious and cultural heritage with such distain. I wouldn't wonder if people of Pokrowsk, Sloviansk and Kramatorsk would now rebel against a West Ukrainian regime that coninues in a path that started the civil war in Eastern Ukraine ten years ago. Another selfdefeating move by Zelensky that will backfire internationally and internally.
Zelensky gives Putin another big boost and the Western cheerleders of Ukraines selfdestruction are applauding!
Load of nonsense.
@@ginjordom6065 churches connected to moscow tend to pop up right next to a military base all around europe its in the CIA report and most of the catholic church knows it thats why the pope is being called out by our bishops
@@ginjordom6065 no not just the CIA but the entire alliance knows specially Greek orthodoxy whos worked with intelligence agencies to figure out the churches that popped right next to a naval base, nuclear base all around the alliance
@@ginjordom6065Absolutely spot on
Disgusting
it is disgusting that the fsb uses ruzzian churches to spy on ukraine
@athraustos8193FASCIST HERETICS
@athraustos8193Anathema
Church supporting war deserves nothing else
Yes Russians are, aren't they?
Hope we become soon the same family again! All love to orthodox brothers! 🙏🏽🇻🇦🇧🇷
Amen 🙏🏻✝️🇻🇦
I wish that too but I don’t think it will happen. Francis would have to abandon the creed they use and go back to the original and would have to abandon Rome specific doctrine that Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch and Constantinople don’t adhere too like purgatory, original sin, sinless Mary, unleavened bread, the 4th crusade is a huge hill for the Orthodox to climb over even though St. John Paul II apologized for it already. We can always hope and pray though ✝️☦️⛪️
@athraustos8193UOC 만세 🙌🎉오누프리 씨 만세 🎉🙌!
@@IamTheRealZODIACthe form of government of eastern orthodoxy is chaotic and always opens new disputes.
The form of goverment of the catholic church is much better.
Yeah as if the moscow patriarchat was nice.. they pushed for russia to invade.
God desires all to be in His One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostlolic Church, even if many in the hierachy these days appear to reject the Truth.
The one apostolic and catholic church also includes Orthodoxy and their traditions. So there is no need to center everything to Rome. We were one but Rome itself did spoil it back in 1054
@@antonius3745So united with different national churches (of which one blesses tanks on their way to blow people up) LOL and that's coming from somebody who is pro Russia and literally located in the Donbas right now.
@@Zeptus1488 Not sure what you try to say or how you understand my comment. But the problem is that the nationalist tendency within all orthodoxy, except the oriental Orthodoxy, is a problem as we see here.
The concept of the apostolic and universal Catholic Church is a good one, but that does not mean everyone has to unify as a melting pot. Bishop Stanislav the martyr, who unified a part with Rome, had the same idea as I show here, but that was back in the 17th century. The problem is the political and nationalist tendency in all European Orthodoxy doesn't help us. I say that as myself, being Greek Catholic from the Melkite tradition from the Holy Land. So it is difficult for us to see how one separates the church of Jesus Christ, The Father and the blessed Mother Mary by nationalism.
For me, that nationalist Ukrainian church is a fraud and from what I understand an action of the CIA back in 2014. But maybe I did get you wrong
@@antonius3745오누프리 씨는
좋은 사람이고 UOC는 충분히 고통을 받았습니다. 아마도 분열주의 OCU 교회에 기입하는 것보다
기독교를 떠나는 것이 더 나을
것입니다.
THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS NOT APOSTOLIC
Ukrainians made the ultimate sacrifice, to separate Kyiv from Moscow both politically _and_ spiritually.
@athraustos8193 your pfp is disgusting
THEY MADE FULLISH DECISIONS .
Ukrainians are heretics. zelensky banned the church to zombify part of the population for his ratings.
The church should be focused on Christ, not the cares of this world. If the Russian church were focused on Christ, this wouldn't have happened. If the Ukrainian church were focused on Christ, this wouldn't be necessary. BOTH churches are wrong.
@athraustos8193 You're missing the point. The Russian church shouldn't be advocating for war, and the Ukrainian church should be worried about what the Russian church is doing. Both churches should be focused on Christ. That is the only purpose of the church. It is a symptom of a greater problem that this legislation must exist. Both churches are equally wrong in this way.
@@dextercochran4916 Well, both churches are false. Jesus only has one Church. Focus on that.
@@pierreschiffer3180멀리서
보면 판단하기 너무 쉽다.
@@brentlunger9738both are false and have moved too far away from early church. So the schism will only continue.
@@dextercochran4916 The russian "church" is the ecclesiastical branch of KGB.
Constantinople is no longer. First take back the Hagia Sophia from Islam instead of installing a Turkish regime that will capitulate to Islam.
Don't forget their support of Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict where they targeted Christian churches and are currently blocking passage through to holy sites.
I am sure the patriarch of Constantinople outweighs Moscow, so it’s actually would be better to be under historical heart of orthodox Christianity in Constantinople
I agree. Patriarch Bartholomew is the successor of St Andrew no? How can some Orthodox disrespect such sacred position? I really don't get it.
Although in theory, the Ecumenical Patriarch remains first among equals, in practice he is only head of the Church of Constantinople which currently is among the smaller Orthodox Churches as it spans Turkey, Mt Athos, and some other churches outside Europe. The Patriarch of Moscow on the other hand is head of the largest Orthodox Church and a Church that is supported by a large population and the Russian state making it very powerful. Many times, his opinion is also supported by fellow patriarchs in Slavic nations. In short, no the Ecumenical Patriarch does not outweigh Moscow.
NO it is an offshoot likely paid to break off into an autocephalous rouge church to weaken the Orthodox, a scheme of the devil and smells like smoke and looks like icons with blacked out faces of our Lord’s Homy Face! .
Hey folks this is this is the result of all the prayers for Ukraine??? Now all these poor good people without worship who live there? Do you realize the catastrophic decision here! Convert to invalidity or pay the price!
Our Lady Queen of Heaven reveal to the world what is Truth vs lies
How exactly does he outweigh him ? The ROC obedience represents 3/4 of all eastern greco-slavic faithfuls, while Bartholomew represents roughly 1 apartment in Istanbul, aside from its limited and nonetheless uncanonical diaspora. The Catholic Church must focus the dialogue on ROC if there's anything to choose.
churches connected to moscow tend to pop up right next to a military base all around europe
can we find out where the Russian military bases are in Europe?
Schism is bad, but the ROC is run by a FSB agent, and is an anachronism anyway. The ROC should rightly fall under the jurisdiction of Kiev, as it used to, and it only has its own patriarchate because they allowed the heathen Peter the Great to meddle in Church affairs. If Moscow was doing the right thing it would place itself under the juridiction of Constantinople, and be in full communion with Kiev. But instead Kiril supports the war, because his crony/lord and master Putin wants it. I had hopes, and was praying for Kirill daily at the start of this. He could have stopped the war had he been minded to. But no.
What Kirill has done is damage the ROC, almost beyond repair. There is no doubt now that the upper echelons are under political rather than spiritual control. Once this is over the whole upper hierarchy of the ROC needs to be rooted out and expelled.for heresy. Failing that the ROC needs throwing out of the World Council of Churches and treated like pariahs until they admit what they have done.
For those who opine that the ROC is the only true Church (and so on), please explain how the idea of Symphony is Christian, or why a church which openly indulges in ethnophyletism, and supports the heretical Russky Mir idea, based as it is on Manichaeism and Gnosticism, should be taken as any kind of Christian Church, let alone one which should be taken seriously and treated with respect?
Also please explain why the Ukrainian state should trust the officers of a Church whose leader has openly supported Russian aggression against Ukraine, and has failed to lift a single finger to stop the Russian Army from murdering Ukrainian civilians through indiscriminate shelling for over three years? I think the Ukranians have been very patient up to now. Personally I'd have jailed every ROC priest in the nation by now.
Peter I actually abolished the patriarchy. He did not install it. The first Russian patriarch was elected in 1589, a hundred years before Peter I, and that was supported by the Constantinopolitan patriarch Jeremiah. Peter abolished patriarchy in 1700.
@@dmitrimikrioukov5935 I stand corrected. It was Vasily II. Apologies for the mistake. But the establishment of the Moscow Patriarchate were a matter of secular politics, later recognized/normalized by Jeremias II. The reason we ended up with a Moscow Metropolitan was because Vasily II had the metropolitan Isidore deposed, and the secular court appointed his replacement some time later. That break with Constantinople is where the rot set in. It followed with Moscow usurping Kiev as the seat of the Church, and is the start of the blurring of lines between temporal and spiritual authority which has dogged the ROC ever since.
But that break was small beer compared with what is happening now.
There's nothing good in this
Such a heartbreaking decision from Ukraine
FAKE NEWS! Educate yourself before buying into this propaganda. The Russian Orthodox Church, which send money to the Russian army that kills Ukrainians, is led by a patriarch who condones the invasion, hides arms in their churches and spreads anti Ukrainian propaganda is banned. They have been told for years to stop but they remain loyal to the invader state.
The Russian foreign minister calls out religious heresy but the moscow patriarchate calls out political human rights. Supposed to be the other way around.
AND WHAT DOES LENIN HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS?
It is not just that it is being banned because it’s Russian or whatnot. The Russian Orthodox Church is INCREDIBLY influenced by Putin and has not condemned the atrocities of the war. It is basically the religious political arm of Putin.
The Orthodox Church is always getting persecuted. Think hard on who is in the wrong here.
russian orthodox church! why you ask? its the hand of the FSB if you know facts you'll realize Russian orthodox churches tend to pop right next to a military base or a nuclear base all around the alliance
@@aronhayse9895stop with al jazeera and cnn and form your own opinion
@dravendfr Zelensky is in the wrong. He also used Canadian taxpayers' money to buy an $8 Million dollar house in Israel.
@@jduffyification no he used that money to buy your mom off prostitution
The guy in your picture was an KGB agent in the 70ies in Switzerland. They are not christians.
This is what I have heard too and the actions of the Russian Orthodox Church would indicate likewise that they are not pro-life towards Ukranians
Ukrainian government isn't Christian either
Russian Church does have KGB legacy issue. I don't agree with the Ukrainian decision to break all ties with Moscow Patriarch, but i won't pretend that i don't understand why they did it either. The Church in Russia is an arm of the Russian government and has been since the time of Stalin
Actually, churches have been banned in the USSR since 1937.
Boy I'm glad I'm Catholic💀
The Orthodox Church is very special and spiritual. Just amazing prayers for everyone
Zelensky is disgusting.
He is a comedian who made Pootin the world's biggest joke.
This is called Democracy?
I say this to speak truth, not to justify war or violence:
Ukraine has high rates of human rights violations. Persecution of journalist. People disappearing. Etc.
Ukraine is a fascist government and nonetheless Russia should have never attacked. Ukraine's government is making a huge mistake escalating the war.
Yes, it is. It is the suppression of communist KGB power.
Well Russian banning some and prisoned that whom has affair with Ukraine
So now what happens to those Ukrainians Orthodox?
Exactly…. Heartless, many RO Christians in Ukraine not harming anyone yet persecuted, and many Ukranians in Russia, not persecuted whatsoever
@athraustos8193there is a Deity in Orthodoxy
So they have other orthodox churches that they can choose to go to
There is at least three branches of orthodox churches in Ukraine
@@Tanmexam27 how are three branches there?
앝라유스: 이건 하나님이
아니라 조드야. (Zod not God). 대량학살? 아니요, 그들은 단지 성일 낙태를 몇 하는 것
뿐입니다. 의사들은 여기 가난한 아기들에게 더 많은 것을 합니다.
Get the Catholic church in Ukraine
they're already there!
THEY ARE SECTARIANS
What your pope and his banker Rothschild have been doing these last few centuries.
I think they will go for protestant churches.
The Greek catholic church is there already for 450 years if you didn't know that. And if you didn't know this Church is united with Rome but stays Byzantine. The Roman Catholic church has several other traditions and if you ask me, better ones as you propose.
Ole Skirgailia, I mean Zelensky is still burning Churches!
I'm not Orthodox. I am a Christian who knows heresy and blasphemy when I see it. Ukraine will regret this decision. This is more than politics. This is a direct affront to God on high. The church is one body, and Ukraine has cut off a piece of that body.
im also christian but ukraine is not banning any churches they are banning Russian corrupt ones. you don't see the difference beetween a normal school and a school were terroist hide weapons to send missiles to their neighbor?
Russians and ukranians can be a part of the Ukrainian orthodox church its about national secteuity and nationality not against religion
The Russian federation has used the UOC (Moscow patriarchate) as a political weapon. The blasphemy is not the law changing in Ukraine in a time where national security is threatened constantly, the blasphemy is that the Moscow patriarchate has blessed the russian invasion whole-heartedly. The hierarchy of their church has lost their moral authority in the eyes of the Ukrainian public. Cyril has become an altar boy for Putin. That is blasphemy and schism from Christianity. A politicized religion where a Russian Orthodox Church is more Russian than orthodox
Note: this primarily concerns the hierarchy, but by making their activities illegal in Ukraine, this means less of the laity will be lead astray. The trend already started. Less people go to Moscow patriarchate churches than they did years ago. Just now the state is formally recognizing the wolf in sheep’s clothing because it concerns the state when a religious body becomes a foreign agent of a nation that is actively and violently seeking Ukraine’s death
Ukraine did not reject Christianity. They rejected EO churches collaborating with the EO church in Russia.
FAKE NEWS! Educate yourself before buying into this propaganda. The Russian Orthodox Church, which send money to the Russian army that kills Ukrainians, is led by a patriarch who condones the invasion, hides arms in their churches and spreads anti Ukrainian propaganda is banned. They have been told for years to stop but they remain loyal to the invader state.
Ukraine, just give them your ship port already.
Orthodox are one family.. Very sad to know Zelenesky has created rift
Ukraine and the modernist West are a joke
@athraustos8193 Putin
Zelenskyy didn’t “create a rift” …a rift existed before he ever got into politics
@@Tanmexam27 State interference in faith matters is unwarranted.
I am orthodox, but this is mainly Putin's fault and his years of interference in Ukraine.
By the way, this church put signs on one of their major monasteries at one point (Pochayiv Lavra) that said that Catholics were not allowed to pray there or donate to it. No friends to us.
That's why they separated Catholic and Orthodox, But in Christ all Christians are 1 forever so mind ur business politicians (satan) We all are one by love of God.
Lol I may have went to pochayiv lavra 5 years ago. Undercover Catholic I guess
I will say, UOC churches often have this graphic of a tree that shows all the schismatics. The graphic basically shows everyone is cut off from the salvo fox life of the church except churches with “canonical orthodoxy’ with ties to Moscow, because something about “Moscow is the third Rome” propaganda talking points
Salvation* not salvo fox
Great news! Since when does Russia care about religious freedom?
Lord have mercy.
As for the issues of the canonicity of the UOC and the OCU, the OCU received recognition of independence and autocephaly in 2018 by the Patriarchate of Constantinople, and then by three more of the fourteen regional Orthodox churches.
Its recognition by the remaining churches is in the process, so there is no reason to talk about its non-recognition by the other churches. Until now, none of the regional churches, except the ROC, has announced canonical non-recognition of the OCU.
Unlike the OCU, none of the local Orthodox churches recognise the independence and autocephaly of the UOC. It is considered canonical only as part of the ROC of the Moscow Patriarchate.
Sincerely yours,
Bishop Vincent Berg.
And that dear Bishop was a very wrong decision. Separating on nationality is spitting in the face of Christ.
This is not entirely true, at the very least the Polish Autocephalous Orthodox Church has condemned the Ukrainian Orthodox Church
@@stefanhennel5490 This church is schismatic there is no doubt. This is deep core evil.
does t matter who's right...this is soo wrong ...I think both should be banned..There is no place to attached a faith to a political or state matter.
You cannot deny anyone from the lord jesus christ
No one nor anyone has the power or the authority
All glory to to jesus christ
Your blasphemy as churches and organisations in this world will not go un punished
I had thought there was a separate Ukrainian Orthodox Church.
UOC is in a questionable state of canonisity; Constantinople says Ukraine is under its jurisdiction and thus can produce a new church (or some may say, since they're the first among equals, she gets the right to grant autosepholy) but historically Ukraine was under the Moscow patriarcate, meaning only Russia can release Ukraine and gain ecclessial autonomy.
This guy wearing a t-shirt like he didnt take billions of tax dollars from us Canadians.
@@L_E_L_0_U_P YES!
politic drag the churches again.
Excellent. The KGB ecclesiastical branch acting in Ukraine is not a "church".
And the Nazi alternative is?
How does the boot taste?
@@totallynotthebio-lizard7631 The supreme Orthodox authority, Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew, confirms that the true patriarch of Ukraine is Patriarch Epiphanius. Not the KGB agent "Onufri".
@@Badhero4 You can ask the KGB agent Onufri.
Well done !
Just in case we needed more reason to stand with Russia
Zero Catholics stand with the communist orcs.
If true, fulfilling prophecy. Worrying indeed.
I love and stand with Ukraine and Ukranian Patriots.💙💛💙💛💙💛🙏✝☦
They should send you to Donbas! To see how you love Ukraine!
The Real History Of “Orthodoxy”
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The Orthodox yes, it's the Ukrie hating Catholic leftists that we should be worried about.
I stand with the 🇺🇦☦️ not their leftists who hate 🇻🇦✝️.
@@ValAllOver네, 정식 우크라이나 정교회입니다 (UOC).
Moscowite Church is Putin Church anyways. Sad. I support full communion with the Catholic Church and the Church of Ukraine 🇺🇦
Wow
And they are supposed to be the good guys?
This is an opportunity for our Eastern Catholic brothers of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church to grow much more in Ukraine✝️❤️☦️🇻🇦🇺🇦
😅😅South East of Ukraine is NOT related to your slaves, the West of Ukraine, thanks God.
@@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos Tell that to the Eastern Orthodox fathers who accepted the council of Florence. Tell that to Saint Maximus the Confessor who defended the Papacy. Tell that to Saint Agustin who defined the Filioque and was accepted by the Eastern fathers who were in communion with Rome back in the 6th, 7th, 8th centuries.
@@luisrios3446 Thanks for the reply i was not aware of any orthodox fathers accepting the council of florence, i would like to read into this, if you have any sources i will appreciate having them
@@luisrios3446 wait really? is this true?
@@Neophitos_O_Egkleistos “Council of Ferrara-Florence, ecumenical council of the Roman Catholic church (1438-45) in which the Latin and Greek churches tried to reach agreement on their doctrinal differences and end the schism between them. The council ended in an agreed decree of reunion, but the reunion was short-lived. The Council of Ferrara-Florence was not a new council but was the continuation of the Council of Basel, which Pope Eugenius IV transferred from Basel and which opened in Ferrara on Jan. 8, 1438. The Greek delegation, numbering about 700, included the patriarch of Constantinople Joseph II, 20 metropolitans, and the Byzantine emperor John VIII Palaeologus.” Source: Britannica
We went back into communion and we broke up again after 10 years…
But Biden said the Ukraine is free.😂
FAKE NEWS! Educate yourself before buying into this propaganda. The Russian Orthodox Church, which send money to the Russian army that kills Ukrainians, is led by a patriarch who condones the invasion, hides arms in their churches and spreads anti Ukrainian propaganda is banned. They have been told for years to stop but they remain loyal to the invader state.
Zelensky has no business interfering in the internal affairs of religions.
Earth ly man will never rule the Earth.
What the hell? Why need to play politics?
The russian church is not canonical outside russia.
This is about the UOC Ukrainian Orthodox Church, which was banned by the false OCU a NATO friendly synthetic church in league with the modernist west calling itself the Orthodox Church of Ukraine.
Exactly.
Fallen angel continues his war against Christ!
С НАМИ БОГ! ☦️🇷🇺🇷🇸
FASCISTS
You mean the EO churches that put their mouth in every aspect of politics ?
Actually, the russian KGB "church" is communist, not fascist.
@@g_br No, the Holy Russian Orthodox Church is the true Church of Christ
@@alexpanagiotis4706 that's what they says but their led to the banning of the Ukrainian church. By their fruit you shall know them. That's what happens when you crave for power rather than focusing for righteousness. It is no true church - it lost the plot long time ago.
@@user-om3pl9jh5k Ha? That's what ALL ORTHODOX SAINTS SAY.
Proper democracy! Let’s give them some money!
I’m sorry I always supported Ukraine with no question after this I can’t even look at it I support Russia now I personally am not a orthodox but as a Christian if my people are being persecuted I can’t stand on that side Christ is king 👑 idc if your a Catholic orthodox protest or a Jew if your a soldier of my king and a part of his army his family your my family
You are not a Catholic. You are a duginist posing as Catholic.
Well done Ukraine!
God will punish these heretic fascists!
Worst then Hitler!
"That they may be one." "Pray for your enemies."
State run Churches? Isn't that the same as they do in Russia?
Weird Church. Of Jesus? What Jesus? False one?
Come back home, to the Original, Catholic, Roman Church.
Don't be afraid of Pope Francis.
프라이팬에서 적그리스도의 불
속으로
Γιατί η Ρωσική εκκλησία ζητάει τη στήριξη του πάπα;
I’m sorry I always supported Ukraine with no question after this I can’t even look at it I support Russia now I personally am not a orthodox but as a Christian if my people are being persecuted I can’t stand on that side Christ is king 👑
The orthodox in Ukraine aren’t being persecuted, they are free to attend wherever they wish. Over the past decade more and more orthodox attend the Orthodox Church of Ukraine instead of the “Ukrainian Orthodox Church (notice the difference in title? this “Ukrainian Orthodox Church” one has direct ties with russia). This trend is because more and more orthodox are skeptical of the Russian-backed church because the Moscow church has figuratively sold its soul to politics. It’s become more Russian than orthodox and people are noticing this. What this law is about is the states effort to intervene because now the Russian-backed church has intervened in matters of Ukrainian National security. It’s a problem when you have churches distributing literature about how Ukrainians should follow the Moscow patriarchate. A UOC church in chernivtsi Ukraine was busted for harboring Russian citizens that were illegally in the country, they had commemorative medals about the “capture of Ukrainian cities” and tons of religious literature with political narratives
@Tanmexam27 Really??? Have they built their own churches or are they taking away the churches and property of Russian church???
i'm an orthodox too but this is really a logical decision that should have happened earlier on. the ruzzian church is used by the FSB to collect intelligence in ukraine, some priests have reportedly a history within that organisation.
They didn't ban Christianity. They banned the churches associated with the Russian orthodox church. Now, they can have other churches.
@@Zima49 The russian "church" is only an arm of the KGB.
?????,,,,,,
Meanwhile, the Catholic church, which historically has been the main inspirer of Ukrainian nationalism, has no restrictions in Russia whatsoever. So which regime is "totalitarian"?
Titus 3:3 KJV "For we ourselves also were sometimes foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving divers (many different) lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful, and hating one another. 4 But after that the kindness and love of GOD our SAVIOR toward man appeared, 5 not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to HIS mercy HE saved us, by the washing of regeneration (cleansed of all sin by being born again/made alive by the indwelling of the HOLY SPIRIT), and renewing of the HOLY GHOST (restoring/renewing our soul not sacrificing CHRIST over and over again in the unbloody sacrifice of the mass); 6 which HE shed on us abundantly through JESUS CHRIST our SAVIOR; 7 that being justified by HIS grace (forgiven of all sins by GOD's free gift of grace), we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life."
Ah, typical evangelical Protestants creating giant text walls out of irrelevant Bible citations, as if their blabbering will change anyone's mind.
@athraustos8193출처: 예수
포털의 챔편필립: 국가적이기는
하지만, 국가주의 (내셔날잇트)
교회는 아닙니다. 여전히 예수가
주님이신 교회입니다.
Rome reports work hard for Russian petroleum dollars. Very spiritual