Giles Martin On How De-Mix Technology Was Used On 'Here, There And Everywhere' -
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2022
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“The Beatles always cared about what was on their records, and we can listen to everything that they did now.” - Giles Martin shows us how de-mix technology was used on Here, There and Everywhere for the new Revolver special editions. 
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I have been involved in sound production on a personal level for over 40 years - hearing this has brought me to tears and I am not ashamed in the least to admit it - all our lives we were told "Once it's been mixed, you can't separate it" I would think the best way to describe this technology would be how Dorothy falls asleep in B/W and wakes up (dreams) in Technicolor... Now I wish I could go back and de-mix all MY old mono recordings...but I know that "If you have to ask the price, you can't afford it"... Sigh...
Ultimate Vocal Remover is probably the best out there right now for stem extraction. It’s also open source and free. You would need a good GPU and Processor tho. Any good Mid range Gaming PC with at least 6gb of VRAM can do the job.
It's all good.
@@bobsmodels123 NONE of them are great. NONE do hifi extraction!
This technology is insane. You'd think it might sorta work a little, but no, it works flawlessly. This is a huuuuuuge breakthrough for music mixing. Get ready for atmos versions of 1950s mono jazz albums...
omg yes
that would be insane. also would love to hear some of the early Stones stuff remixed too, especially both UK and US versions of Aftermath
This would’ve been a godsend back when making custom songs for Guitar Hero and Rock Band was very popular.
But WE can't get our hands ON that tech!
The 'AI' stem splitters available to us produces low quality, artefacty tracks, that sound really swirly with lots of phase cancellation in them.
Put back together they don't sound TOO bad, but a lot of the fidelity of the original recording is LOST!
This technology really is astounding and it’s been put to such great use on this project. The new mix of Revolver is nothing short of a revelation.
Back in the 60's recording tricks or sound effects could be made to do anything, but nowadays with computers they can do just about everything.
All the remixes Giles have done are amazing.
This opens the door for remixing even the two track recordings from the early albums.
yes for sure!
Giles has done a great job with all his new Beatle remixes and has earned the respect of everyone in the industry . I know his Dad would be very proud of him.
Giles is really talking and using the body language of his dad isn’t he? Which is great. They’re both awesome people in The Beatles timeline.
Most blokes eventually turn into their dad..
@@Rich6Brew haha yeah!! But most people’s dads aren’t legendary producers 🧐😜🤣
Can he just undo what they did to Sgt. Peppers.
Not just me who noticed it then!
@@profile2047 Pepper was layered in a way that they were able to deconstruct using the individual tracks. They redid Pepper in 2017.
As a selfmade sound engineer that is doing recording, mixing and masteriing of my own work i think this is a fantastic invention. To be able to even take a mono track and separate all the instruments and create a stereo track with a different mix is like science fiction. Even the tools i have at my disposal now is science fiction compared to what was availible when i was a teen and wanted to have a home studio, i thought i would never be able to afford it and now i have it and its also very cheap compared to what i thought it would be when i was younger and its also more advanced that i could have ever dreamed of. Im sure this De-mix tech will be availible to us mortals eventually as well but for now i think its a fantastic time for recording music.
The question I have now though, is that with when all four are gone what will future restorers do? I think Giles is taking a very gentle touch with these remasters, but what will future attempts do? Granted the originals will always be there, but when is a Beatles track - or anyone else's - no longer theirs after the engineer in charge puts his own spin on it? Just curious.
@@joes9954 You ask a great question. It’s as if you’re served a gourmet meal and possessed technology to extract out all the Ingredients, pick and choose which to retain, recalibrate the portions, and cook them again. Would it still be a gourmet meal?
@@joes9954 Is this any different from people remixing tracks (either subtly or extreme remixes that artists very often have other people do) of multi-track recordings? It's just that you can now get a multi-track recording when you didn't have one available before.
@@hackbod It's VERY different. It's essentially a type of artificial intelligence. The computer is listening and then CREATING separate multiple tracks from single tracks. The computer has to know what the electric guitar sounds like. It has to know what the drums sound like. Then it creates separate tracks based on that knowledge. Similar probably to physically modeling instruments or video upscaling.
Now Giles can finally mix She Loves You in stereo!!!!!
wow, Giles really is the spitting image of his father, and carrying on his work all the same!
The technology used to tweak these vintage recordings is incredible! This is an absolute perfect song and thank you for your work!
hank you too!
@@stereofidelic67 No, No, no, hank you sir. I insist.
I’m hankful too
Yet he is using a 20 year old keyboard and mouse. LOL
@@blamm5348 but come to think of it, what else are you expecting from mouse and keyboard (in addition to point and click)
amazing technology helped in isolating individual parts (from a single track)
I know you would have commented as a joke but still :P
I love his Han Solo costume. It's fab.
I think it’s absolutely wonderful that Giles is continuing his father’s great work, and I can’t believe this technology can separate each sound from the tapes! How the…?!
I am an audiologist and this is similar technology to what we use in hearing aids, where we seperate voices from background noise to make it easier to understand what someone is saying in a noisy environment.
@@Sean-me4fv That's such a cool use of technology, I'm curious, are they using AI in hearing aid technology yet?
I’m hearing the four Musicians play their own instruments and they’re singing absolutely incredible thank you Giles 🙏
This makes me *really* want to hear some of the great early songs-"Please Please Me," "She Loves You," "I Want to Hold Your Hand" and others-remixed with this technology. Can you imagine the rock power of those songs in audio technicolor??
Keep in mind it won't change how the songs sounded when recorded, only allows for flexibility in remixing and the ability to get the most out of each instrument. If it was recorded crappily, it'll still sound crap no matter what.
@@SeanSMST Well, there was never a true stereo version, ever, of "She Loves," and the master tracks were wiped or lost, so Giles could actually create a TRUE stereo version of that song for the 1st time. Since demixing utilizes AI, they could reference the stereo German language "Sie Liebt Dicht" since the re-recorded backing track was the same as the original single.
Yeah, they were so ineffectual and lame the first go around in the 60's.
@@oinkooink Nobody said they were "ineffectual and lame." In fact, I described them as "great early songs." You might not know much about the limitations of recording back then. But there were limitations and, shorn of those limitations the original recordings might reveal *even more* presence and energy. Shorn of the limitations it might allow listeners who care to get closer to the feeling of *being in the room* with the Beatles as they create their masterpieces.
@@hankhoffman8475 I was being saucy.
RELEASE CARNIVAL OF LIGHT 🙏🙏🙏
If you want a big disappointment, sure.
Yes!
Bag of shite apparently
Yes please
It’s junk.
This is absolutely amazing. Super astounding that they can dive in and hear individual sounds and what not. Really cool feature that's going to help us keep classic music up to current production quality. It really doesn't change the timbre of anyof the instruments, just gives them more control to experiment with new mixes.
As a recording engineer of 30+ years. Starting in the early 70s on 1" 8tk to 2" 24tk tape to Digital. I spent a LOT of time trying to clean up leaky tracks or pre mixed messes with every from side chained gates, parametric eq to automation. It was impossible to separate simultaneously ringing instruments. Separating a B3 mixed in with a Vox was impossible! What I just heard is truly music magic! Opening some amazing possibilities. How granular is it? Can you pull apart an entire drum kit and remix It into a standard close mic'd kit with stereo overheads? Ending up with a stereo imaged drum kit? Amazing AI..
Me too. I just want to know how de-mix works. What is the mechanism?
@@amsedelm The AI isolates every single instrument sound, and after that you can mix them in the way you want.
@@jonathasantoz I understand that. The question is HOW? What is the mechanism. It's like saying the sky is blue just because. There is a mechanism. Is it EQ? How does itr separate the instrumenst that share the same frequencies? How does AI do that? Do you understand?
@@amsedelm Got it. Well, for me it's the same as magic. I can't understand how the AI does this.
@@amsedelm how? With magic.
Looking forward to hear De-mix on the other albums!
A plea on behalf of music makers everywhere - please let us hear Ringo's isolated drum tracks in their entirety! They are like gold
'Rain' speeded up as it was recorded in real time,...his drumming on that is stunning.
Thank you Peter Jackson. Every Beatles fan sincerely thanks you.
I want so hard those isolated instruments tracks
The level of De-mixing now possible is stunning. Music they've since lost the multitracks for CAN still be remixed now. I'm certain it isn't cheap however.
What an awesome thing it must be to have access to play around in the Beatles musical universe.
I cant wait till every beatles album gets the treatment revolver did. I am simply blow away by the difference. I listened to every song tonight side by side and it's unreal. What's funny is somtimes I like the original a little bit better, but only a little bit. but mostly the change was epically mind blowing. This band blows my mind every day and these little changes even moreso
today's technology used to amplify & separate for so much more of a clean mix ... fantastic
these tutorials by Giles Martin are just fabulous ...
he should dissect all of the remixes while he's still so closely involved with the process NOW
WOW that is AMAZING. It's a game changer for all the old records.
i still cant believe that this technology is possible! and its simply amazing!!!
I think it's just a matter of time that all the Beatles albums will be remastered with this new tech
Remixed..
De-mixed.
There's only ONE issue. Giles Martin is treating these albums with utter respect and can't make too many changes, because he has to respect how the Beatles intended it to be. So he can't do a club mix version, of fattened Bass and Drums, because I believe the labels still own those albums and it's not their intention. As a producer, it would be absolutely lovely to get those separated tracks and turn it more modern, with a wider stereo depth, more present drums and bass. Either way, The Beatles songs alone, are beautiful and have stood the test of time.
@@TheVoom99 I totally agree. End of the day he’s staying true to how The Beatles wanted it. Back then I’m sure they didn’t want present drums, since in those days it didn’t translate well to vinyl and older crappy speaker systems. Still, he’s doing an excellent job and yeah honestly Giles should leak the stems. I’d have absolutely a blast remixing my own version it would be super fun.
@@bassinblue Mostly agreed though Giles Martin loves to fatten the bass more than it needs to be
Ringo's drums sound so well tuned, to my ears at least.
Beautiful music. Great sounds. Thanks.
This is incredible how much can be separated when many instruments were on one track
Thanks for presenting this ability. Many artists records can now be modernized if willing , both mono and stereo.
This is just stunning! It's such an incredibile joy to listen to these amazing songs. I started learning English by listening to the Beatles' songs and I was 8. Never stopped listening to them! And never stopped learning English!
Absolutely marvelous technology! I can't believe you were able to extract all of that from one track so cleanly without artifacts! Grant it, Beatles Rock Band did this sort of thing in 2009 and I also play around with some less fancy AI separation tools, but it amazes me how clean and professional the tech sounds now! Magnificent!!
It’s actually incredible how much can be separated I’m quite baffled if I dare say so
IT's just a matter of restricting specific frequencies in the spectrum + some good ole use of time stretched sections pasted with micro crossfades. Nothing outstanding, pretty common practice since the early 2000s
@@deloreanizednot to the degree they are utilizing here. the consumer versions of this type of software have started flooding the market within the last three years and are fairly impressive...the software developed by peter jackson’s team takes it up a whole other level. I also have to think them having demix certain chunks and not complete stereo mixes may have helped in their cause (as evidenced here). i used the recent stereo remix of ‘here, there and everywhere’ to demix in the currently available consumer level software and was surprised by how much I could separate/isolate.
@@deloreanized that is absolutely not how EQ works. This is new tech. Read into it.
As a producer, with today's technology, it's not as hard as it once used to be. Now you can separate each instrument in a song and 'de-mix' it completely. Of course it'll take a long time to achieve this, but it can be done.
@@bassinblue You wouldn’t be able to achieve the results seen in this video without the technology they used. I am a producer; trust me. Yes there are a lot of ways to really isolate things (like drum bleed into a guitar mic for example), but it’s just not as much of a problem nowadays because everything is multitracked and not summed down like they had to back then.
I have the original parlophone record from 1966, and i like it the way it is!
This was great, loved this demonstration and really would like to see more like this.🎧
I hear it, but still can't believe it, amazing
This is amazing!
This technology is so amazing.
There’s a real sense in Giles, that The Beatles elements that make up their mixes will be handled sensitively and his stewardship of the mixes ensures The Beatles sonic gold will be preserved and enhanced for many years. Giles is a credit to them, and his dad.
This is alien technology that, up until a few years ago, I was dissing as blatantly impossible. And damn, I'm so glad that Giles Martin has his hands on it. To be able to hear these things that weren't separate before is just pure magic.
There are websites where literally anybody can do this. I was re-mixing a mono track just last night. Perfect separation.
Absolutely amazing what they can do now🤯
Quite amazing, never heard the finger snaps before.
The technology is astounding. I remember as a kid dreaming of such a thing for Beatle mixes. I just wish we could get a more modern mix of some of these records. They’ve done a few songs like that and they’ve turned out wonderful.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL US WHAT SOFTWARE/TECHNOLOGY THEY USED? Nothing on the consumer market seems to be this high quality, and I know I’m not alone in wanting to get my hands on such clean separation tools!!!
I believe this is technology developed at Abbey Road. What I've gleaned so far is that it uses some pretty complicated algorithms doing phase cancellation and some kind of frequency modulation based on the tone and character of the individual instruments. I mean, basically it's witchcraft, but count me in.
Peter Jackson's team invented it in order to mix the Get Back movie.
@@nickmonks9563 seriously, I get that it’s proprietary and likely to stay a well kept secret, but make a plugin out of it or even a standalone app and license it to iZotope and rx11 will fly off the shelves, am I right? Or waves, we all know how they love to boast how their gear is the closest anyone can get to what the pros use. Being able to actually claim that they are the only company where you can buy the same algorithm used on the Beatles seems like waves’ ultimate wet dream
I really thought it was DeMIX Pro (as it seems to give the best results i've found) but apparently its developed by Abbey Road themselves.
Listening to the instruments separately makes you realize completely new things about songs. In this one, for example, the guitar chords are sudden but soft, while the drums are predictable yet intense. Together, they create a harmony unlike any other. It just goes to show what geniuses the Beatles and their crew were.
This is magic
REALLY COOL !!
I love this so much
Thank you
This is brillient.
I wonder what this would mean for songs like ‘Real Love’ and ‘Free as a Bird’. Had this technology been around in
The mid 90s, Jeff Lynne would no doubt have gone back and separated John’s vocals from the piano, cleaned it all up and made sure everything was in tune. The results would no doubt have been VERY different to what we eventually got.
Absolutely amazing that this can be done. I wonder if Love Me Do and She Loves You (and their respective b sides), which famously are only available in mono, can now be de-mixed and true stereo versions created? 🤔
it can be done with this technology
This year The Beach Boys have re-released a newly expanded compilation and they included some songs originally known as mono but this time they recreate those in stereo ("Good Vibrations"). I don't really know what technology was utilized but I've read somewhere the audio engineering was made with independent software. "She Loves you" was only partially corrected on "Pride can hurt you too" for the "Beatles 1+" but remains in mono.
@@kristdelgado Yes. I have that Beach Boys compilation, the Sounds of Summer. Something is off with those remixes, though. It's not the new stereo separation that bothers me. I think it might be a matter of the EQ applied by the engineer.
It can be done. I agree. If Rubber Soul will be the next deluxe (I believe it will), that will be next year. Then if he goes in that direction, wait a year for each album/CD, Please Please Me Deluxe will be out by 2028. I don't want to wait that long. 🎸🎸🥁🎸
They’ve done love me do as the b side of the new single
The Beatles traveled into the future, to see how records today were going to be made. They are The Godfathers of modern day recording techniques.
What a fucking looney comment
I'm starting to beleive that.
I really want this software to be publically released.
very cool insight on every sound that is heard, or not
Wanting for the new mixes of Rubber Soul, Help and the and previous albums.
The consumer version of this technology is available. RipX, which I own a copy of, is one. It's great for deconstructing guitar, bass, drums and vocals into separate tracks on modern recordings. It's less successful but still impressive with older recordings from the 60s. It also lumps keyboard and guitar together into a "guitar" track
So does IZotope’s RX series. But Peter Jackson’s company’s software is extraordinary. RipX and Izotope appear to be way behind.
@@ShiningHourPop That’s not uncommon. I interviewed for a position at a well known animation studio. They had their own software, which they sold to the public. What I didn’t know until I was in the building being shown around, is that their in house version was several versions ahead of what they sold the public. This was not public knowledge. I was shocked to see it. Since then I’ve always wondered how many developers have internal versions of their code that’s years ahead of what they’re admitting to and selling to the public, (and other developers).
Technology is finally catching up to the band.
I love how the universe just brought these boys, George Martin & Eppy together. Such a history making team.
1:49 So heavenly and beautiful ♥️
Wow this is just really amazing 👏 to see 👀 and how all of it works and how it was made so well.
This is incredible technology
Loving it
This is eerily amazing.
I genuinely want good remixes of their first 6 albums & Magical Mystery Tour now that it can be done. Particularly remixes of Please Please Me & With the Beatles since the stereo mixes for those albums have the instruments on 1 side & the vocals on the other, which is really annoying to listen to with headphones. A good modern Rock mix of those albums & the others would be great. I'd buy those in a second.
exactly, I'd love to hear their worst (sound quality wise) album remixed! Please Please Me I guess..
It would ge great to finally hear stereo mixes of She Loves You and Love Me Do.
@@thehighllama8101 'Love Me Do,' I don't know if they'll doo because all of the versions they'd have to source from are low quality mono versions. I can't imagine them even trying, but I'd like to be proven wrong.
Don't forget Past Masters.
@@ScsigsGaming they are mono, but they aren’t low quality. It’s not a whole lot of difference from working with the stereos of that era really, the vocals are just one extra thing to separate out
Beautiful ❤
Amazing to have an interview like this! The new mix of Revolver is great - you have to listen with head phones to appreciate all the differences in the mixes.
@Classic gomunkulus no thanks! I’ll stick with Revolver
This is incredible
When I listen to the Beatles with these new mixes they sound like a band that came out today trying to sound older
I always wondered why vocals were on one side and instruments on the other. Makes a lot more sense now!
Why's that then?
@@-______-______- guitar, bass, and drums were all on one track
Plus, in what was then EMI Studios, they didn't give a shit for stereo mixes... For pop music, at least.
First time I hear this was when I got the Love Songs album Christmas ‘78 and never heard the kick drum before. Blew me away. It became a much more powerful song for me.
Now, we will finally get a stereo mix of "She Loves You", the only Beatle song that was recorded strictly in mono,
That is absolutely remarkable!!!
Imagine if we could do that with artworks! we could separate Van Gogh's paint strokes and reassemble them how he really intended them to be, totally clear for us to understand.
This technology is very exciting. Can’t wait for more
I want him to release these multitracks...
Neeeeever gonna happen.
They will eventually pass into the public domain, but not for a long time. The Beatles’ estates will become a trust that retains the masters and issues authorised versions.
They won't have to. Before long the technology will be available to anyone who wants to do it themselves at home. There are already websites that can do a pretty decent job of it.
Incredible possibilities for this technology. Hopefully, it can become feasible for other legacy bands to have 'new life' injected into their recordings that used the now ancient technology and limitations.
remarkable!
This is absolutely insane, mind-boggling tech. 😲
What a time to be alive ...
Károly Zsolnai-Fehér, is that you?
Hopefully a restoration and de-mix of Live Aid can be carried out now, my DVD sounds awful and I thought I read somewhere there aren’t any multitracks of it
Agreed!
Wow
Crazy stuff
For some of classic albums out there, such as Yes' Going for the One and Tormato, Gentle Giant's In a Glass House. I would love to hear Steven Wilson's thoughts on the demixing technology...
Absolutely incredible
I love that he’s talking about this incredible technology while using that ancient mouse and keyboard
That’s quite amazing. We’ve already had something like this in Izotope RX’s Rebalance module. But it sounds like their tech is way beyond Izotope’s, which leaves artifacts on the separated tracks, and isn’t quite as granular about what it can and can’t separate.
Exactly as you say.
I would kill to get my hands on Beatles stems.
PLEASE PLEASE ME and release just individual tracks - WE WANT TO MIX OUR OWN VERSIONS
Is this part of a larger documentary?? I MUST KNOW, I MUST SEE IT ALL! Would be awesome to see more of these BTS snippets!! @TheBeatles
While I'm mono purest as I love the way it's mixed and produced all Analogue.... This blows my mind and will be welcomed for the headphones generation
Oh man this is soooo cool! I would pay a lot of money for those freaking multi tracks. Ugh I wish.
I could watch this kind of thing for hours....
It would be interesting to have this done on Sgt Pepper. They did a lot of "bouncing" of tracks on that album in order to add more overdubs, but bouncing leads to a loss in sound quality, and frankly makes the songs sound less visceral and powerful. You can hear how the Anthology version of Good Morning Good Morning actually sounds more lively and exciting because it hasn't been bounced and hidden with overdubs.
The Beatles pretty carefully documented all their later "reduction mix" takes, so for the Sgt Pepper 2017 remix they were able to go back to the original, unbounced takes and put each of the tracks onto separate stems. That's why the drums sound a lot punchier on the 2017 remix. The difference with Revolver was that they didn't do so many overdubs after the fact, and had multiple instruments being live mixed onto each individual track. That's the magic of the de-mixing technology. It's not so necessary for the later albums because they had the reduction mix sources to work from. If that makes sense. Where this technology will REALLY shine is on the earlier albums.
@@robertwiles8106 Even the 2017 remix sounds muddy to me, like the groove is buried. The Anthology drums are night and day clearer than the 2017 remix -- the horns are mixed too loud and the overall thing is muddy. Perhaps that can't be fixed for whatever reason, but to me Sgt Pepper is the one album that could really be brought to life by somehow bringing out the basic tracks.
@@reginaldperiwinkle I'm not a big fan of the 50th anniversary remixes in general. I prefer the 2009 remasters and in a lot of cases the Yellow Submarine Songbook contains the overall best mixes from the middle period.
@@robertwiles8106 I feel exactly the opposite. I LOVE all of Giles's remixes and can't stand listening to the 2009 remasters. All the strange panning decisions they made for the 2009 versions make them unlistenable to me.
In an interview circa '93, Daniel Lanois lamented the decline of the rhythm section sub-mix because it forced one to commit to an overall EQ.
Is anyone else surprised Giles Martin is using a mac keyboard and mouse from, like, 2005?
I need to get my hands on this technology
Same.
These are the days of miracle and wonder! Wonder how the hell those guys were so good!
ask Paul Simon
Imagine being in the position of given the opportunity of bringing The Mona Lisa up to date. A world-wide Citicard audience…..through the teachings of his father and the instinctive knowledge of of what was being achieved….Giles is taking a melodic history and bringing the singular elements of these Beatles tracks and enabling us Beatles freaks (and musician freaks) to see that simplicity, gift, talent, knowledge and guidance ( from George Martin)… and bringing it to the the fore-front of just how fucking brilliant these sessions were. (By the way….I have Vodka and Diet Coke on board)!
REVOLVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER
Wow.
I have one thought. The Star Club tapes. This MUST be used on the Star Club tapes.