Smockin literally had some of the answers and blew them. Then they missed questions Ken-Jac and Titus should've gotten. Can't say it is rigged if the other team plays like crap.
Just to keep track of what happened in this match... NBA answers: Jose Calderon vs. Al Jefferson (I know Smockin got it but Jefferson is a much easier answer, I knew Jefferson right away... Calderon career 8.9 PPG, Jefferson 15.7 PPG plus 3rd team All NBA selection and top 10 MVP finish in 2014.) NFL: Steve Slaton vs. Alfred Morris (Steve Slaton: Less than 4 full seasons in NFL, zero Pro Bowls or All Pro selections, one 1k yard season. Alfred Morris: Played from 2012-2020, two Pro Bowl selections plus a second team All Pro selection, 3 1k+ yard seasons.) Movies: Matchstick Men vs. John Q (None of the 6 players knew Matchstick Men, including KenJac, the movie guy and cohost of LCB with Jeff. Meanwhile, John Q is known by everyone playing as soon as it's said. Also, JDL uses box office as an excuse but is blatantly wrong... Matchstick Men made a mere $65.6 million to John Q's $102.2 million. It should be pretty telling that Donnie mentions nobody in the crowd near him had seen it, compared to John Q which had the complete opposite reaction. ) Bonus round: One of Ziti's niches is literally "salty snacks," and JDL uses a question about Cheetos as the deciding question of the bonus round. Why the hell wouldn't you save that bonus round question for a different match? I don't care that you have a running list... that's when a judgment call should be made and you go to the next question to make, as you like to say, a pivotal bonus round, more interesting and a bit more fair. Just had to give it to the best snack team in the league, a team that uses it as a niche category. College Hoops: He writes a question involving Bradley, a college in Illinois, the state Eddie has spent all of his life in. Also, a mid-major in the same conference of the school Eddie attended (Southern Illinois). JDL, I don't write all of this out of hate. I'm a Dozen fan and I watch every match... I know you put a ton of time into it and you clearly care about it and its success. Odds are, Ziti wins this match even if the questions are perfectly fair. All I ask is you give each team a fair shake and don't make it abundantly clear that the questions favor one team over another. I really hope it doesn't continue to be like this in the Final Four.
Been saying for years. It is inherently biased. He writes the questions KNOWING who he is asking them to. Have to do a random question league. Write allll the questions ahead of time. When you get to the matches questions are loaded at random. If you’re a Bears fan and get a bears questions, well, ya got lucky, that’s trivia
$65 million box office for Matchstick Men and $102.2 million box office for John Q isn't close to same amount of money at the box office. We all know what happened and continues to happen with Ziti. The kicker was having a Cheez-Its question in a game involving Dave. Praying Jeff doesn't rig it tomorrow night against the Experts, who have looked the best in the tournament so far.
Also being surprised that answers are often said for next Q i.e. Jason Kendall is hilarious. No shit Jeff! You asked a question about NL Central all star catcher in 2005 followed up by a question about NL all star catcher in 2005. Of course Jason Kendall’s name is going to be mentioned for the first question!
Yeah these matches def killed it for me lmao. That shit sucks. They had 2 snacks in the bonus which is a niche for 2 of their players lmaoo I get that it’s random but maybe check niches and swap questions like that. Truly stupid to not put other questions in their place
@@marcr1307there’s also the memory factor. Matchstick Men was such a bad movie, but it made money because of Cage. I’ve never seen John Q, but I know exactly what it’s about because it was a unique storyline.
I posted this on another comment but will do here too Fight Club made 101M at the box office in 1999. That same year a movie called Anna and the King made 113M. Would that mean you could use these two movies in the same round for two different teams and declare them even?! No. Of course not. Jeffs qualifier that they made the same amount of money in the box office, so they are equal is horrendous reasoning. That cannot be the only criteria in deciding if questions are even. John Q had incredible staying power for years after its theatrical release, Matchstick Men did not.
Knowing it’s Hostess because you actually don’t know the answer is peak snack knowledge. You don’t have to know everything, sometimes you just have to know enough.
I mean I know it’s a business, gotta have the most entertaining final 4 w/ the president of the company playing, but just don’t make it so obvious Jeffery! The fix was in from the start. Go back to having question set A or B and have them pick before the match
This was crazy unfair! A Cheetos question in the bonus round final. A CHZ IT question. And John Q vs. the other movie was almost as one-sided as the questions Jeff put together.
One thing I will at least say for the cheetos one is that they did get a question exactly so in theory it wasnt slated to be the last question if it was rigged but obviously can never be sure 100%
John Q made double the box office of Matchstick Men Watching ziti is literally like watching those RUclips clips of Putin scoring 9 goals in a hockey game
Pretty sure population guesses were rounded yesterday then Smockin hits it dead on and Jeff rounds down lol. Also giving 2 questions about good 2005 NL Central catchers then acting like it’s unreal that they mentioned both answers is crazy. There was like 3 guys total Smockin could’ve talked about.
The way they do points is screwed up. They don’t double his category and he only gets half the niches so he’s losing 1.5-2 points every game that he could easily score
He’s the best player hands down. If they ran a singles tournament with the ACTUAL categories from the normal matches (not that dumb niche category tournament) Brandon would clear everyone.
49:45 “that happens very often on this show, it’s kind of odd” It’s not odd at all, the questions both had components around NL Central catchers. Being the second team is often unfair, as your brain is primed to the question ahead of time.
Box offices were not the same and even if they were movies have drastically different marketing budgets. Haven’t even seen John Q but I still remember the commercials for it when I was 10. Sickening stuff.
Lmao Jeff’s music question in the 2nd game “they made the same amount in the box office so” except they didn’t Jeff. Matchstick men made 65 million and John Q made 102 million lmao
Do you remember a Chicago match where the tiebreaker bonus round was a Taylor swift question. Jeff said it was next on the list but it would be unfair because Chicago had keegs, so he skipped to the next one. Do you remember that? That actually happened. Jeff actually admitted to skipping forward on his list. He coulda just skipped the Taylor swift question and not told anyone, but he told us! So now we know there’s precedent. So he def coulda done it again.
Ziti vs Expertw is going be one of the best matches . Neither team can afford to miss especially on double up questions. Winner of Ziti vs Experts will go on to be champs
Do you remember a Chicago match where the tiebreaker question was a Taylor swift question. Jeff said it was next on the list but it would be unfair because Chicago had keegs, so he skipped to the next one. Do you remember that. That actually happened. Jeff actually admitted to skipping forward on his list. So he def coulda done it again.
This has happened throughout the szn! Yes, ziti is good but Jeff always gives very favorable questions to ziti. Their niche is snacks and there’s been multiple matches in which they get snack questions outside of their niche. Crazy!
Jeff Xi Lowe putting the fix in and isn’t here to take shit from anyone. Saying that tho Ziti woulda still won and have been the better team all year. Top tier final 4
On that geography question for Team Minehane technically “Utah” would have been a correct answer as well. Utah borders Colorado- Idaho-Nevada-Wyoming. Total oversight by Jeff.
So happy I wasted my time watching this rigged match. Just say Ziti is automatically in the final 4 next time instead of wasting everyone’s time. Jeff Fraudlowe
such a bad product this year, i understand Jeff needs to rigg the questions to get the best top4 for content, but this is awfull unwatchable. If you want a real stuff, how about random questions written by neutrals
Outrageous movie comparison. Also I think box office is a terrible criteria even if they are the same which in this one was NOT the case. But a movie can have a lot of publicity and get a large box office attendance and be bad or not age well, and a movie can have a bad box office and end up becoming a classic.
God Jeff is so scared of Dave with these easy ass questions 😂😂
Yea because all he does at barstool is trivia, so if ziti doesn't win Jeff gets fires
Alaska was the craziest answer I have ever heard 😂😂😂
same guy who gave us Lasagna for Italian food season 1.
He also threw out Florida when they were thinking Midwest states
John Q vs matchstick men is clearly lopsided. But cheez it puffd is a gimme
That John Q question WAS WILD
Jeff went too far with fixing the questions. I know he wants to sell out the event, but it was way too blatant
Jeff, a movie guy, acting like Matchstick Men = John Q is just absolutely insane.
Literally have never heard of both movies so it seemed even to me. One question and losers like you go crazy
Jeff is bending over and spreading wide for Dave.
@@NeonKCyou must live in a 3rd world country if you’ve never heard of John Q
@@NeonKC you are wrong bud
Jeff is a dumb movie guy and doesn't actually know anything about movies
Insanely lopsided questions for Ziti as usual. Jeff isn’t even trying to hide it at this point
Smockin literally had some of the answers and blew them. Then they missed questions Ken-Jac and Titus should've gotten. Can't say it is rigged if the other team plays like crap.
Skell
What were the questions you had issue with?!?
Questions should be selected from a random pool. Not tailored for each specific team to get the outcome Jeff wants. #DozenRigged
Just to keep track of what happened in this match...
NBA answers: Jose Calderon vs. Al Jefferson (I know Smockin got it but Jefferson is a much easier answer, I knew Jefferson right away... Calderon career 8.9 PPG, Jefferson 15.7 PPG plus 3rd team All NBA selection and top 10 MVP finish in 2014.)
NFL: Steve Slaton vs. Alfred Morris (Steve Slaton: Less than 4 full seasons in NFL, zero Pro Bowls or All Pro selections, one 1k yard season. Alfred Morris: Played from 2012-2020, two Pro Bowl selections plus a second team All Pro selection, 3 1k+ yard seasons.)
Movies: Matchstick Men vs. John Q (None of the 6 players knew Matchstick Men, including KenJac, the movie guy and cohost of LCB with Jeff. Meanwhile, John Q is known by everyone playing as soon as it's said. Also, JDL uses box office as an excuse but is blatantly wrong... Matchstick Men made a mere $65.6 million to John Q's $102.2 million. It should be pretty telling that Donnie mentions nobody in the crowd near him had seen it, compared to John Q which had the complete opposite reaction. )
Bonus round: One of Ziti's niches is literally "salty snacks," and JDL uses a question about Cheetos as the deciding question of the bonus round. Why the hell wouldn't you save that bonus round question for a different match? I don't care that you have a running list... that's when a judgment call should be made and you go to the next question to make, as you like to say, a pivotal bonus round, more interesting and a bit more fair. Just had to give it to the best snack team in the league, a team that uses it as a niche category.
College Hoops: He writes a question involving Bradley, a college in Illinois, the state Eddie has spent all of his life in. Also, a mid-major in the same conference of the school Eddie attended (Southern Illinois).
JDL, I don't write all of this out of hate. I'm a Dozen fan and I watch every match... I know you put a ton of time into it and you clearly care about it and its success. Odds are, Ziti wins this match even if the questions are perfectly fair. All I ask is you give each team a fair shake and don't make it abundantly clear that the questions favor one team over another. I really hope it doesn't continue to be like this in the Final Four.
Great post with articulated thoughts.
Been saying for years. It is inherently biased. He writes the questions KNOWING who he is asking them to. Have to do a random question league. Write allll the questions ahead of time. When you get to the matches questions are loaded at random. If you’re a Bears fan and get a bears questions, well, ya got lucky, that’s trivia
The NFL one was wild. Anybody who played fantasy football knows Alfred morris. Was a league winning pick up his first year
Also, Jeff was far too quick to defend the questions tonight. He answered before Titus could even finish his comment.
JDL has officially jumped the shark absolutely grooving it down the middle for ziti. Dave should call him out at this point.
Jacksonville population shoulda been a 2-point exact guess for Smockin in my opinion
On a population question, it should absolutely be rounded to the nearest thousand and be a two point answer when you get it.
Yeah acting like a 949611 guess is equal to a 19 guess is ridiculous
Pandered to Ziti to get them to the final four.
Hank saying Alaska might be the dumbest thing I have ever heard!
$65 million box office for Matchstick Men and $102.2 million box office for John Q isn't close to same amount of money at the box office. We all know what happened and continues to happen with Ziti. The kicker was having a Cheez-Its question in a game involving Dave. Praying Jeff doesn't rig it tomorrow night against the Experts, who have looked the best in the tournament so far.
Plus the ncaa basketball question being Bradley, an Illinois school that everyone who lives in the state knows (aka Eddie)
Also being surprised that answers are often said for next Q i.e. Jason Kendall is hilarious. No shit Jeff! You asked a question about NL Central all star catcher in 2005 followed up by a question about NL all star catcher in 2005. Of course Jason Kendall’s name is going to be mentioned for the first question!
@@MbyrneSDik, like the questions are literally supposed to similar it makes perfect sense that it happens often the one is guessed for the other
Dude the cheez it question was off a steal and not written for Dave. Keep twisting it tho😂
Yeah these matches def killed it for me lmao. That shit sucks. They had 2 snacks in the bonus which is a niche for 2 of their players lmaoo I get that it’s random but maybe check niches and swap questions like that. Truly stupid to not put other questions in their place
Brandon Fucking Walker legacy game, this might finally be the year
Matchstick Men vs John Q is craaaazy uneven, not even trying to hide it anymore lol
titus, kb, and nick would be a dangerous team
Titus and the tightettes
Jeff gets so defensive anytime anyone gives him criticism because he knows what he's doing. Truly ruining this show
Scott Foster wrote that final Bonus question 😂😂
No way they didnt realize the final bonus question would be Ziti’s niche
he knew the 9 questions after the potential 4-4 is a bunny for ziti
Don’t let the fix for pres disctract you from the fact that Hank thinks Alaska borders 4 states 25:30
BFW - "That MFer said ALASKA!" LOLOL
May be same money at the box office but John Q has multiple memes and more people know about it. Jeff knows that’s why he got so defensive
The box office stat isn’t even true. Jeff often says something very confidently that’s just flat out wrong
From what I see John q is 102 mil and matchstick men is 65 lol
Box office is silly but because movies at that time always had bigger runs on home video and cable.
@@marcr1307there’s also the memory factor. Matchstick Men was such a bad movie, but it made money because of Cage. I’ve never seen John Q, but I know exactly what it’s about because it was a unique storyline.
I posted this on another comment but will do here too
Fight Club made 101M at the box office in 1999. That same year a movie called Anna and the King made 113M. Would that mean you could use these two movies in the same round for two different teams and declare them even?! No. Of course not.
Jeffs qualifier that they made the same amount of money in the box office, so they are equal is horrendous reasoning. That cannot be the only criteria in deciding if questions are even.
John Q had incredible staying power for years after its theatrical release, Matchstick Men did not.
Boycott this tournament! Jeff rigged the questions and he knows it!
R U GONNA CRY?
HOW IS THIS HAPPENING?!?! GIVE THEM A SNACK QUESTION & JOHN Q?!? GTFOH
Jeff loves bowing up to ppl who aren’t Walker, Kirk, or Dave. His ego is insane
Really comes out at times. Annoying af
I never heard why he moved to California. What was the story behind that? Did he just need another random team to be a fan of?
It’s so funny seeing Jeff get butthurt over contestants not thinking questions are fair
Fran is so fineeeee MY GAWD
Matchstick men vs a denzel movie that was on tv for 5 years straight lol not even close to being the same haha
Already defending himself before Titus even says anything
Jeff is obsessed with Zach Braff on mash up
Knowing it’s Hostess because you actually don’t know the answer is peak snack knowledge. You don’t have to know everything, sometimes you just have to know enough.
I mean I know it’s a business, gotta have the most entertaining final 4 w/ the president of the company playing, but just don’t make it so obvious Jeffery! The fix was in from the start. Go back to having question set A or B and have them pick before the match
Yeah it was funny how short that lasted and I don't remember a reason ever being given.
Jeff needs to hand the reigns of the dozen over. Just because he created it doesn’t mean he’s best to run it.
Jeff just says whatever to wriggle his way out of any legit gripes on his questions
Good on Klemmer for tanking the question on kenjac. Shame Titus and Mintzy caught the crossfire.
Clems undershirt color was a mistake
Absolute layup question with Alfred Morris.. JFC Jeff
This was crazy unfair! A Cheetos question in the bonus round final. A CHZ IT question. And John Q vs. the other movie was almost as one-sided as the questions Jeff put together.
Cheeze-It puffs was a layup.
Apparently not, smockin missed it
One thing I will at least say for the cheetos one is that they did get a question exactly so in theory it wasnt slated to be the last question if it was rigged but obviously can never be sure 100%
John Q made double the box office of Matchstick Men
Watching ziti is literally like watching those RUclips clips of Putin scoring 9 goals in a hockey game
Pretty sure population guesses were rounded yesterday then Smockin hits it dead on and Jeff rounds down lol. Also giving 2 questions about good 2005 NL Central catchers then acting like it’s unreal that they mentioned both answers is crazy. There was like 3 guys total Smockin could’ve talked about.
Brandon should be MVP just about every year of this league. Dudes an encyclopedia
The way they do points is screwed up. They don’t double his category and he only gets half the niches so he’s losing 1.5-2 points every game that he could easily score
Brandon walker burner account
He’s the best player hands down. If they ran a singles tournament with the ACTUAL categories from the normal matches (not that dumb niche category tournament) Brandon would clear everyone.
Jeff, the complaint is everyone has heard of John Q and no one has heard of Matchstick Men
49:45 “that happens very often on this show, it’s kind of odd”
It’s not odd at all, the questions both had components around NL Central catchers. Being the second team is often unfair, as your brain is primed to the question ahead of time.
How did smockin not get credit for a perfect guess on Jacksonville. That shit rounds to 950k
Because Jeff is a moron who rounded the number down instead of up.
Shouldn’t that Jacksonville census question have been 2 points for Smockin because the number would round up to 950,000?
Jeff would rather jump than have had Smockin go to the final 4. Easy
Wasnt Smockin dead on correct with 950k in the Bonus round? The answer was 949,611 and rounded up to 950k..
We’re all missing the main point here and that’s dumb Hank thinking Alaska was the answer to that geography question
Steve slayton vs Alfred morris
What are we even doing here
If you have any football knowledge you would know both. Both were very easy.
Box offices were not the same and even if they were movies have drastically different marketing budgets. Haven’t even seen John Q but I still remember the commercials for it when I was 10. Sickening stuff.
So bonus round is a running list and is the only round he doesn’t sift out biased questions ? (Except any other question for ziti ofc)
949,611 rounds up to 950k. Apparently it rounds down in Jeffs world. . . Robbery
I thought Rico was mantis with his sling under the shirt
John Q vs Matchstick Men is a CRAZY disparity
Jeff and Ziti killed that game!
Lmao Jeff’s music question in the 2nd game “they made the same amount in the box office so” except they didn’t Jeff. Matchstick men made 65 million and John Q made 102 million lmao
Mook really doesn’t know how to avoid sex jokes
Mook is a comedic genius
He does know how to avoid jokes
I was shocked to hear he’s late 20s. Dude talks and jokes like a freshman in high school
Hes so shitty
That movie question was incredibly lopsided. Unreal
Lot of questionable questions in match 2 but giving Dave a question about Cheez-Itz is a wildly crazy move.
US Box Office Gross
Matchstick Men: 36 Million
John Q: 71 Million
Jeff was in his bag making sure someone with over a million followers was at the live show
949611 rounds up to 950
Do you remember a Chicago match where the tiebreaker bonus round was a Taylor swift question. Jeff said it was next on the list but it would be unfair because Chicago had keegs, so he skipped to the next one. Do you remember that? That actually happened. Jeff actually admitted to skipping forward on his list. He coulda just skipped the Taylor swift question and not told anyone, but he told us! So now we know there’s precedent. So he def coulda done it again.
Giving Eddie a Bradley question is actually fucking insane.
Wasn’t his question.
Guys KenJac is bad at movies. I think he didn’t do it on purpose….
Brandon may be the funniest barstool employee.
BFW will go full Frank if they screw him in the semis.
Won ton don, mook, and jersey Jerry might just be the penultimate combination of characters
John Q and Cheetos were just damn ridiculous
Experts had easiest road to the Final 4 , It would be great to see Brandon , Fran and PFT win championship this year
BFW was in his bag the wife joke before the bonus round was pretty damn good.
Love how mad Jeff gets when called out for rigging it for the team he wants to win
Jeff 100% cut the end of Smokin’s postgame when they mentioned the lopsided questions 😂
Jeff's home cooking ruins another two Dozen matches. What's new?
Bonus round is a running list
Ziti vs Expertw is going be one of the best matches . Neither team can afford to miss especially on double up questions. Winner of Ziti vs Experts will go on to be champs
Australian theme to the music round - Jet and Kylie 🇦🇺
If Dave’s ego didn’t blind him so much he’d call out the softballs they’re getting tossed in these tournaments
Jeff is giving Ziti layups and he knows it
Very happy to see Kenjac lose. Very sad to see Titus lose.
Did Jeff get with Eddie before the game and go over the answers.
Titus, minihane and keegs would be a championship contender!
Let’s go experts! It’s Fran’s year 😍
Fingers crossed
ITS A RUNNING LIST ITS A RUNNING LIST lol Jeff coping so hard
Do you remember a Chicago match where the tiebreaker question was a Taylor swift question. Jeff said it was next on the list but it would be unfair because Chicago had keegs, so he skipped to the next one. Do you remember that. That actually happened. Jeff actually admitted to skipping forward on his list. So he def coulda done it again.
Yaaaa that bonus round question wasn’t random. John Q was despicable.
This was Brandon Walkers “Jordan beating the Pistons” moment.
This has happened throughout the szn! Yes, ziti is good but Jeff always gives very favorable questions to ziti. Their niche is snacks and there’s been multiple matches in which they get snack questions outside of their niche. Crazy!
“This Candy doesn’t exist, Jeff”
Kazbars are delicious btw
PG era john cena burying the entire roster levels of scripting right here
Jeff Xi Lowe putting the fix in and isn’t here to take shit from anyone. Saying that tho Ziti woulda still won and have been the better team all year. Top tier final 4
On that geography question for Team Minehane technically “Utah” would have been a correct answer as well. Utah borders Colorado- Idaho-Nevada-Wyoming. Total oversight by Jeff.
Except Utah also borders a 5th state (Arizona)
If only Jeff spent the time on these questions that he does on his spray tan.
Dave has a great seat to incredible players
So happy I wasted my time watching this rigged match. Just say Ziti is automatically in the final 4 next time instead of wasting everyone’s time. Jeff Fraudlowe
Cry some more skell
Even if you swap the questions and give the bonus round to smockin, ziti would still be winning bozo
@@adamrichards9524 Hi Jeff
@@adamrichards9524100% not accurate
Yea I mean being 400 off a population bonus round question not being worth 2 points is ludicrous
Over under 6.5 questions in in favor of Ziti, or food related? 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅 always take the over!
Idk why but the way jeff describes snack foods pisses me tf off😂
We need more Donnie Mook Jerry action
This has been very not fun to watch, great job Jeff!
Some of Ziti's questions were really easy. I get ya need the Big man at the final 4 but try not to make it as obvious next time!
such a bad product this year, i understand Jeff needs to rigg the questions to get the best top4 for content, but this is awfull unwatchable. If you want a real stuff, how about random questions written by neutrals
Outrageous movie comparison. Also I think box office is a terrible criteria even if they are the same which in this one was NOT the case. But a movie can have a lot of publicity and get a large box office attendance and be bad or not age well, and a movie can have a bad box office and end up becoming a classic.