very simple and effective way to set angle. been using the method for years and has never failed me yet. for every flat on a 6 point is 60 degrees and 30 degrees on a 12 point i always mark the corner on the socket where the 2 flats meet and mark where i want my angle to stop and go from there. on paccar engines they want 65 ftlb then 192 ftlb then 120 degrees on the flywheel and i can not do that angle with that much torque applied. i mark the point on my impact socket and mark a point on the flywheel 120 degrees from my start and use the impact to take the final 120.
This is great! The final pass on LS engine head bolts is 60 degrees. Your trick worked better than anything i have ever tried! Definitely the new way that i am doing it from here on out!
God bless you sir! Went through 2 angle gauges, and 1 digital torque wrench before I gave up and went back to the Old School !! Could degree 90* to save me .
You’re pretty slick at your craft and this video helped a great deal with my little project.Thank you for posting this and I hope to learn more from your videos.
I like it. The gauge that the auto stores sell are junk. The pin holder is plastic that flexes and the needle is jumpy. I was thinking about marking the outside of the socket too. Didn't really think about the angle of the socket edges. That makes marking the outside that much easier. Glade I watched this video. Thanks again.
I would have enjoyed working with you when I was a pro mechanic. Instead I was stuck working with people who were math-poor and didn't want to think very hard. Great video. This is exactly the sort of method I used when I swapped suspension parts on my Jeep and realized - oops, torque plus degrees, time for some math and a sharpie! Plus there are times when you just can't get a degree wheel in there easily (tight spots) or it would be hard to read. You are doing exactly what I did. Simple - a single full turn of any fastener is a circle and a circle is 360 degrees. 180 is half a circle, or half a turn, and so on. Good job. Odd there aren't more views and really strange that there are any thumbs-down at all. I don't understand how anyone can not give this a like.
i just use the handle like the arms on a clock. if i need 90 then i start with the handle straight up and turn it to 3 0clock thats 90 6oclock is 180 each number is 30 degrees so no matter where your at just remember numbers on a clock and each one is 30 degrees
Very helpful Robert, thanx. Do you think this would be an okay methodology for a Honda Pilot crank bolt which requires, in addition to regular torque, an additional 60 degrees? Thanx again.
NOT EASY TO DO IF HEADS ARE ANGLED BACK TO FIREWALL AND HEAD BOLTS ARE DOWN DEEP ENOUGH SO YOU CAN SEE THEM😎😎😎 use an angle guage or torque wrench with angles👍
Question, So do you torque to the proper foot pounds first and then tighten it up to the specified angle ? No one seems to be thoroughly explaining from beginning to end.
Bud if you listen to what he said he actually did say at 2:48 of the vid that he torqued it to the recommended foot-pounds first and it was calling for another 60 degrees after that.
@@mikeomaire6558 He was maybe the first person to actually say that. Everyone else you gotta realize that after watching several different videos of the same thing.
I bteak it down as looking at a clock. Sarting at 12 = 0° , 3=90°, 6=180°, 9=270° and a full revolution back to 12 would be 360°. So I would position my wrench in a way as if I was looking at a clock rite in front of me. So you could go 1= 30°, 2=60°, 3=90,4=120°,5=150°, 6 =180° e so on and so fourth . One could break down into halves if needed 1/2 would = 15° , 1/4 = 7.5 ° 1/8=3.75°
You are awesome, great 👍 trick , just maths, You save me to do a90 degree , so thankful You got a new subscriber I got to see everything you post , keep up the good work
if you have 12 point socket instead of 6 like you have have you can find 90° by doing 3 revolutions 3*30=90 Thanks for the video i already forgot about this method)
you dont torque and torque angle to two completely different things. torque is the applied force to overcome friction. torque angle is the amount of force to apply max clamping force. they are not one in the same. normally you apply torque and then apply the torque angle to get the most even and maximum clamping force
How to torque 430Nm or 316 Foot pounds (same amount) harmonic balancer bolt with a impact gun? Can someone please calculate the angle. I’ve got six sided bolt but another vid says tighten to 60 and then do a 45 degree angle more tight.
So torque it first to 60Nm torque (I’ve got torqued tool but doesn’t go past 270Nm). So first 60Nm and then rattle gun another 45 degrees? Then I will have total of 430Nm?
Robert, you say "move one revolution back", but you means to move one face of the nut back, and that is 60 degrees. Neat idea when the wind-on is as straight forward as 60 degrees. I guess 30 degrees would be OK too, as a mark between the 60s. Thanks.
You count flats.... I do this professionally everyday... I don't use a torque wrench for anything.... It comes down to knowing your fasteners. Very skilled shade tree mechanic at work here.... If he spent everyday in a shop he could publish a thesis
I'm pretty much the same way. I will torque internal engine bolts such as head bolts, rod bolts, main bearing cap bolts, cam cap bolts, etc as well as intake and exhaust manifold bolts, but other than that I just torque bolts by feel and have no problems. Nothing I assembled has ever fallen apart and the only bolts I ever broke were because they were heavily rusted, so something is working right.
You method is functional, however your use of the word "revolution" is incorrect.... If you were to say "partial revolution" that would be ok... Really what you should've said was "rotation".. A "revolution" is 360degrees. So for example. When you were turning the socket counter clockwise after making your marks, you said " I turn it one revolution back". If you would've actually turned it "one revolution back" it would've been turned all the way around back to where the two sharpie lines, lined back up. You should've said I'm moving the socket one notch in a counter clockwise direction.
@@RobertDIY LOL you hope I don't have children? Luckily for me I don't. And CAN'T. (Fuck you very much!)... But If I did, they would at least know how to speak English correctly...
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Yay! I need to do a 90 degree angle torque--this helps. Thanks, Robert.
You bet!
Love this. I’m doing timing chain and just realized I don’t have an angle finder so this is EXACTLY what I needed. Thank you!!!
You are so welcome!
very simple and effective way to set angle. been using the method for years and has never failed me yet. for every flat on a 6 point is 60 degrees and 30 degrees on a 12 point i always mark the corner on the socket where the 2 flats meet and mark where i want my angle to stop and go from there. on paccar engines they want 65 ftlb then 192 ftlb then 120 degrees on the flywheel and i can not do that angle with that much torque applied. i mark the point on my impact socket and mark a point on the flywheel 120 degrees from my start and use the impact to take the final 120.
Cool, thanks for sharing.
You saved me 7 years later😂
This is great! The final pass on LS engine head bolts is 60 degrees. Your trick worked better than anything i have ever tried! Definitely the new way that i am doing it from here on out!
Glad it helped!
God bless you sir! Went through 2 angle gauges, and 1 digital torque wrench before I gave up and went back to the Old School !! Could degree 90* to save me .
Ouch
I tried so hard do torque angle very confusing but your videos give me a better insight great job
Good deal, thanks for watching.
I knew I shouldn't have slept through my math classes! Thanks Robert!
+Ricky P. LOL, math does help.
As simple as 360 divided by 6 equals 60! Basic math into play, great vid!
you are welcome.
You’re pretty slick at your craft and this video helped a great deal with my little project.Thank you for posting this and I hope to learn more from your videos.
thanks for watching.
I like it. The gauge that the auto stores sell are junk. The pin holder is plastic that flexes and the needle is jumpy. I was thinking about marking the outside of the socket too. Didn't really think about the angle of the socket edges. That makes marking the outside that much easier. Glade I watched this video. Thanks again.
You are welcome
I would have enjoyed working with you when I was a pro mechanic. Instead I was stuck working with people who were math-poor and didn't want to think very hard. Great video. This is exactly the sort of method I used when I swapped suspension parts on my Jeep and realized - oops, torque plus degrees, time for some math and a sharpie! Plus there are times when you just can't get a degree wheel in there easily (tight spots) or it would be hard to read.
You are doing exactly what I did.
Simple - a single full turn of any fastener is a circle and a circle is 360 degrees. 180 is half a circle, or half a turn, and so on.
Good job. Odd there aren't more views and really strange that there are any thumbs-down at all. I don't understand how anyone can not give this a like.
Same reason they didn't know how to do it when you had your shop. lol
Math poor? How can anyone be math poor with a smart phone. You have all the answers in your hand.
i just use the handle like the arms on a clock. if i need 90 then i start with the handle straight up and turn it to 3 0clock thats 90 6oclock is 180 each number is 30 degrees so no matter where your at just remember numbers on a clock and each one is 30 degrees
Thanks for sharing.
Awsome! You sir are a genius!! Thanks for the very simple explanation of this geometric method! My man, GO STEELERS!!
Glad you liked it!
you are a smart man... i never would of thought of this... just love your video... it made me a better mechanic...
Thanks
Thank you. This made it so simple to understand.
You're welcome!
I heard of this hack but didn’t know how to execute it. Thank you for sharing.
Happy to help.
This is absolutely brilliant. Thanks for saving me time and money.
You're very welcome!
Now, that is one easy explanations, I wish my teacher could use this to explain to me during class years ago. Thanks 😎
Glad you liked it!
Excellent content. Thanks for uploading.
Glad you enjoy it!
Very helpful Robert, thanx. Do you think this would be an okay methodology for a Honda Pilot crank bolt which requires, in addition to regular torque, an additional 60 degrees? Thanx again.
Yep.
Perfect I have to do 111 ft pounds plus 60 degrees on a crankshaft pulley bolt on a Chevy cruze! Thanks bro!
Glad I could help
This is genius. Absolutely genius. This helps a lot
Thanks for watching
Thank you so much for your help on Facebook Robert. I got my flywheel tight now!
Good deal.
90 degrees is real easy to figure out without using a torque angle gauge.A quarter turn with a long ratchet or breaker bar
Thanks for sharing.
NOT EASY TO DO IF HEADS ARE ANGLED BACK TO FIREWALL AND HEAD BOLTS ARE DOWN DEEP ENOUGH SO YOU CAN SEE THEM😎😎😎 use an angle guage or torque wrench with angles👍
Very good cheat on angle torque
Thanks for watching
Robert DIY your very welcome robert
How tight was it to begin with??? Are you starting with it torqued to the straight torque value, say 26 ft lbs, then do this?
Whatever the manual calls for. Usually a torque then the angle. Example is the head bolts for my car, 16 ft lbs, 44 ft lbs, then 130 degrees.
Question, So do you torque to the proper foot pounds first and then tighten it up to the specified angle ? No one seems to be thoroughly explaining from beginning to end.
Bud if you listen to what he said he actually did say at 2:48 of the vid that he torqued it to the recommended foot-pounds first and it was calling for another 60 degrees after that.
@@mikeomaire6558 He was maybe the first person to actually say that. Everyone else you gotta realize that after watching several different videos of the same thing.
yes.
This is a great help. I'm in class.
Glad it was helpful!
You are brilliant, sir. Thank you very much!
You are welcome
Thanks for the great video Robert. Can you tell me how to work the degrees out on a E8 bolt? Do you count the "splines" on the head?
Same concept.
Good shit homie! That was some smart thinking!
Thanks for watching.
I bteak it down as looking at a clock. Sarting at 12 = 0° , 3=90°, 6=180°, 9=270° and a full revolution back to 12 would be 360°. So I would position my wrench in a way as if I was looking at a clock rite in front of me. So you could go 1= 30°, 2=60°, 3=90,4=120°,5=150°, 6 =180° e so on and so fourth . One could break down into halves if needed 1/2 would = 15° , 1/4 = 7.5 ° 1/8=3.75°
Ok
How do you know the degree angle torque on different bolt, nut sizes?
you get that from the manufacturer's repair manual.
Thank you for sharing. Stay safe.
You are welcome
You are awesome, great 👍 trick , just maths,
You save me to do a90 degree , so thankful
You got a new subscriber
I got to see everything you post , keep up the good work
Thanks for watching.
if you have 12 point socket instead of 6 like you have have you can find 90° by doing 3 revolutions 3*30=90
Thanks for the video i already forgot about this method)
thanks for watching.
Yo, far out this video is quite awesome yo that's pretty smart,would like to see some more of your video's yo!!
thanks for watching.
LOL i liked it better with the dog barking every few seconds and a bagpipe playing marching band going past your car :)
+zx8401ztv Yikes! Gives you that live feeling, does it?
+Robert DIY LOL im just being silly as allways :-D :-D
same applies to TORX bolts right?
Yes
I have to torque bolts to 5.7 pounds on my bike, how do i do this without a torque wrench
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Wouldnt u just turn the ratchet say 1/4 turn to reach 90 degree or is this incorrect ?
Sure
Super! You helped me a lot. Thanks
You're welcome!
Thank you Robert I want to do it on my 6bt Cummins engine is it suitable
Thanks for watching.
This is a great tip, thank you for sharing!
You are so welcome! Was talking to a guy about this video today. Showed him how to angle torque.
How do you work out the degrees to turn a nut to get the right torque if you dont have a torque wrench?
Regular or angle torque?
Robert DIY
Regular
I don't know of away. They cost about $20, go get one.
you dont torque and torque angle to two completely different things. torque is the applied force to overcome friction. torque angle is the amount of force to apply max clamping force. they are not one in the same. normally you apply torque and then apply the torque angle to get the most even and maximum clamping force
Absolutely brilliant 👍
Thanks for watching.
Thanks Robert
you are welcome.
How to torque 430Nm or 316 Foot pounds (same amount) harmonic balancer bolt with a impact gun? Can someone please calculate the angle. I’ve got six sided bolt but another vid says tighten to 60 and then do a 45 degree angle more tight.
45 Degrees is half of 90 so go from 12 o'clock to between the 1 and 2 on the clock. Hope that makes sense.
So torque it first to 60Nm torque (I’ve got torqued tool but doesn’t go past 270Nm). So first 60Nm and then rattle gun another 45 degrees? Then I will have total of 430Nm?
Where does one find a list with the foot pound torque specifications for a volvo 940?
Probably the Volvo site, under owners manuals.
Thankyou Robert! James
+James Sasse you are welcome
Robert, you say "move one revolution back", but you means to move one face of the nut back, and that is 60 degrees.
Neat idea when the wind-on is as straight forward as 60 degrees. I guess 30 degrees would be OK too, as a mark between the 60s. Thanks.
+Brian Jones Yes, not sure why my brain made my mouth say a revolution.
Brilliant! Thank you Sir
You are welcome!
Nice tip 👍
Glad you liked it!
Great job
Thanks for watching
Awesome bro
Appreciate!
Glad it helped
Great vid man!
Thanks for watching.
Awesome info !
Thanks for watching.
So what if it is 55ft lbs plus 50 degrees
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Very clever if everyone else does it.
thanks for watching.
Brilliant! Thanks
You are welcome
Good information. Thanks sir!
You are welcome.
You count flats.... I do this professionally everyday... I don't use a torque wrench for anything.... It comes down to knowing your fasteners.
Very skilled shade tree mechanic at work here.... If he spent everyday in a shop he could publish a thesis
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Great Video!! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Well played
thanks for watching.
fantastic... solve my live and made me save a few dollars
Thanks for watching.
I heard you fart around 3:37🤣🤣🤣
LOL Classic old G move.
Top notch.
Thanks
Brilliant, thank you!
You are welcome.
Nice work
Thanks for watching
THIS IS AWESOME!!!!
Thanks for watching.
That's pretty awesome
Thanks for watching.
Very helpful thanks
+Russell Crow thanks for watching.
only thing I torque is head bolts, everything else gets my air and muscles.
Thanks for watching.
I'm pretty much the same way. I will torque internal engine bolts such as head bolts, rod bolts, main bearing cap bolts, cam cap bolts, etc as well as intake and exhaust manifold bolts, but other than that I just torque bolts by feel and have no problems. Nothing I assembled has ever fallen apart and the only bolts I ever broke were because they were heavily rusted, so something is working right.
Just correct!
thanks for watching.
This is damn clever.
+Mechan Knuckle lol thanks
My thoughts exactly.
awesome - thank you
You da man!
thanks.
Very logical
Thanks for watching.
You are a bad mamma JAMA
LOL Have not heard that one in a long while. 😜
👍👌😀 best video....
Thanks for watching
A protractor some glue and your mark dial. Easy
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genius
thanks
as iron sharpens iron one man sharpens another...
Awesome
awesome
thanks for watching.
You method is functional, however your use of the word "revolution" is incorrect.... If you were to say "partial revolution" that would be ok... Really what you should've said was "rotation"..
A "revolution" is 360degrees. So for example. When you were turning the socket counter clockwise after making your marks, you said " I turn it one revolution back". If you would've actually turned it "one revolution back" it would've been turned all the way around back to where the two sharpie lines, lined back up.
You should've said I'm moving the socket one notch in a counter clockwise direction.
Huh? Would you like a refund? I hope you don't have children.
@@RobertDIY LOL you hope I don't have children? Luckily for me I don't. And CAN'T. (Fuck you very much!)... But If I did, they would at least know how to speak English correctly...
Smart ;)
Thanks
Are you a Blood or Crip?
Oh my.
more
More? I have about 2,000 of them. lol
Fart at 3:36
Not. That was the person with me agreeing with what I was saying. SMH
You can find that noise on my washing machine repair video.
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King James Version
1 Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;2 By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Ok. You wrote all that on my degree torque hack video to???
Robert stop writing on you tool, it's unhygenic.😂
LOL
That’s not a revolution
so you didn't understand the message?
Use the correct words bro
Would you like a refund?