I've found that when you are securing ice axes, hatchets, tripods, etc... using that bungee chord, create a "girth hitch" by feeding the toggle through it's own loop, then tighten the toggle. I have found this to be way more secure than just looping the bungee over and tightening the toggle. A friend showed this to me after my ice axe fell a few times on an approach and I've been using ever since. Thanks for all your content and everything you do for this community, I hope this tip helps you.
could you please clearify this explanation how use the shock cord on packs so that non native english speaking ppl can understand your tipp better? kind regards
It’s an awesome pack and I’ll add this. Back when I was much larger 275 lbs I bought this pack and the waste strap is made for skinnier people. I called HMG to return item and found out they do sale an extension strap for folks who are larger in the mid section. They sent me the extension for free. I kept the pack and it’s my go to all day pack. I could not reach water bottles without taking pack off. Now that I’m much skinnier I can reach water bottles but I prefer the cap and tube that was shown in this video.
The irony is that while many UL fabrics may tough in terms of abrasion and tearing, they don't last over time. Between delamination and pinholes forming in things like Ultra400 and Dyneema, for many it's wasted money.
Dyneema, uses an ultra aramid fiber. Aramid is the same fiber used to make Kevlar. It does not stretch. A lot of braided fishing line manufacturers use strands of dyneema and dyneema equivalent products in their braided fishing line. Ultra high speed tires use aramid or dyneema in tires to hold their shape at 200+ miles per hour. One problem with these ultra fibers is when used in situations like this is that the thickness of the fibers become ultra thin. When under tension or jerked these fibers can cut you. Be aware if you snag your bag as it make just make it impossible to get free. Dyneema is hard to cut.
I'm a UL backpacker and have several HMG products and backpacks. While the HMG backpacks are not the most ultralight, by "ultralight backpacking standards", they ARE (IMHO) the best at combining ultralight materials in a manner that produces incredible durability. I see a ton of these packs on the Appalachian Trail and see them carried by people all over the world because of the incredible durability and quality. Pricey for sure but worth the investment if you're going to put them to the test. Love your videos and thanks for sharing!
That's a ton of money for a day pack. If your a biker or hiker out there every weekend then maybe but most will be well served by nylon or polyester. Great design. I'm not a bladder user but that would be a show stopper if I was.
I have this pack and love it for it’s purpose. It’s a great travel pack when you know you’re going hiking a bit. I use a lot of Fjällräven products as well; more durable, but heavier.
Cool bag my go to bag is heavier but I love it a total all around beast of a bag called the Savotta Jaakari it’s 1000 denier all over lots of space good looking has molle options on the outside one of the best made bags I know of and I’ve used Duluth, 511. LL Bean. Rothco ,Maxpedition and Sandpiper bags for long multiple day hikes and the Savotta Jaakari beats them all and would be a great bug out bag as well though I’ve never used a bag made by mystery ranch but game on I trust the jaakari for any situation from hiking ,camping or for someone looking for an insanely tough bag that can hold a ton of gear on the inside and outside though it will weigh more than any bag with ultralight in its name.
Thanks, Aaron. It's not the kind of pack I would typically want/need in my environment, but you've opened my eyes to something to look out for - Dyneema.
For cyclist would you say the hip strap would take weight away from the shoulders? Being leaned over on a road bike? I have a real issue on the shoulders with long distance cycling. Not too many daypacks with a waist strap at this size pretty cool feature.
Great video! Little rich for my pocketbook but I like the idea of strength to weight. Have you done a video on budget bags? I need one but can’t afford anything that expensive. Keep up the great work!
Great question! And, thnx Gideon for the answers! Because of the expensiveness of a lot of back packs I have rummaged through thrift stores OVERTIME for mine. If I see something great I buy that and when I find something better I may I upgrade to that. I have noticed the thrifts just outside most major metro areas are where one can find the diamonds in the rough or better quality gear.
I have the Hyperlite Windrider 3400 pack. It has a rolltop and cinch straps that can dramatically reduce the size of the pack down to essentially daypack size. It has a water bladder pocket. Plus you get the bonus of use as a full-on backpack. Something to consider for folks who like the benefits of dyneema. Great pack.
I love HMG and always carry their backpacks. It’s an insane company and quality. Even the government is using them as official backpacks for rangers in National Parks. Do I have to say more?
So, Material of High level packer/trekker, and design of a $10 WelMart Kids schoolbag...$230,,,, Thank you Sir. I have the full size hiking pack by them, its great design.
This pack has “water bottle pockets” on the outside, I guess that was the intent for this bag. Even that however doesn’t appear well thought out as I don’t see any retention method to prevent the Smart bottle from falling out. Dyneema is way over priced, crinkles and rustles when I walk or brush against any vegetation, very loud.
Almost always something I can take with me when I watch your videos, So thanks for that Aaron. I'm starting to take an interest in EDC, but I don't quite understand the thing about pouches because most are far too big to have in your trouser pocket and it seems a bit feminine to walk around with it in your hand, maybe you always carry your edc in a backpack? My hope is that you in a future video could tell a little about how you carry you EDC round, also it would be so nice if you could put togther a pocket tool kit if that make any sense to you??
G'day Aaron, yep pros and cons on this one mate. I'm all for a durable, light weight and water resistant/proof pack, but if that stuff is noisy just walk'n along, that'd really get my goat. Like the large dump pouch at rear, however in the rain, I expect water will just run down and fill it up. Like the stowable waist belt. Reasonably good access to the internals and whilst there is some organisation, more is better IMO. The non breathable back is the biggest bummer for a modern day pack I reckon. Cheers Duke.
lots of miles carrying HMG packs and other DCH fabric packs and haven't had noise issues or concerns. there are drain holes in the bottom of the front dump pouch. how much internal organization do you want? It has a bladder/laptop pouch and a small zip pocket. Yeah, the lack of back ventilation can be an issue for people. Vaucluse Gear has a ventilation pad (3.3oz for Gen2), which works very well I have actually been using a Gossamer Gear Air Flow SitLight Camp seat (3.5oz for small) attached to the pack using 3M adhesive velcro, on my HMG Daylight, Elevbate 22, and Unbound 40 packs. The SitLight is optional back panel insert for Gossamer Gear packs.
I've found that when you are securing ice axes, hatchets, tripods, etc... using that bungee chord, create a "girth hitch" by feeding the toggle through it's own loop, then tighten the toggle. I have found this to be way more secure than just looping the bungee over and tightening the toggle. A friend showed this to me after my ice axe fell a few times on an approach and I've been using ever since. Thanks for all your content and everything you do for this community, I hope this tip helps you.
could you please clearify this explanation how use the shock cord on packs so that non native english speaking ppl can understand your tipp better?
kind regards
@@ravingbadger look up girth hitch.
It’s an awesome pack and I’ll add this. Back when I was much larger 275 lbs I bought this pack and the waste strap is made for skinnier people. I called HMG to return item and found out they do sale an extension strap for folks who are larger in the mid section. They sent me the extension for free. I kept the pack and it’s my go to all day pack. I could not reach water bottles without taking pack off. Now that I’m much skinnier I can reach water bottles but I prefer the cap and tube that was shown in this video.
The irony is that while many UL fabrics may tough in terms of abrasion and tearing, they don't last over time. Between delamination and pinholes forming in things like Ultra400 and Dyneema, for many it's wasted money.
i'm quite sure regular ripstop or heavy denier still are susceptible to pinholes. I'd be interested to see all the delam you are talking about.
Dyneema, uses an ultra aramid fiber. Aramid is the same fiber used to make Kevlar. It does not stretch. A lot of braided fishing line manufacturers use strands of dyneema and dyneema equivalent products in their braided fishing line. Ultra high speed tires use aramid or dyneema in tires to hold their shape at 200+ miles per hour. One problem with these ultra fibers is when used in situations like this is that the thickness of the fibers become ultra thin. When under tension or jerked these fibers can cut you. Be aware if you snag your bag as it make just make it impossible to get free. Dyneema is hard to cut.
Hahah good point!!
I'm a UL backpacker and have several HMG products and backpacks. While the HMG backpacks are not the most ultralight, by "ultralight backpacking standards", they ARE (IMHO) the best at combining ultralight materials in a manner that produces incredible durability. I see a ton of these packs on the Appalachian Trail and see them carried by people all over the world because of the incredible durability and quality. Pricey for sure but worth the investment if you're going to put them to the test. Love your videos and thanks for sharing!
Thank you for sharing your experience and feeling in the packs!! 👍
That's a ton of money for a day pack. If your a biker or hiker out there every weekend then maybe but most will be well served by nylon or polyester. Great design. I'm not a bladder user but that would be a show stopper if I was.
I have this pack and love it for it’s purpose. It’s a great travel pack when you know you’re going hiking a bit. I use a lot of Fjällräven products as well; more durable, but heavier.
Cool bag my go to bag is heavier but I love it a total all around beast of a bag called the Savotta Jaakari it’s 1000 denier all over lots of space good looking has molle options on the outside one of the best made bags I know of and I’ve used Duluth, 511. LL Bean. Rothco ,Maxpedition and Sandpiper bags for long multiple day hikes and the Savotta Jaakari beats them all and would be a great bug out bag as well though I’ve never used a bag made by mystery ranch but game on I trust the jaakari for any situation from hiking ,camping or for someone looking for an insanely tough bag that can hold a ton of gear on the inside and outside though it will weigh more than any bag with ultralight in its name.
Thanks, Aaron. It's not the kind of pack I would typically want/need in my environment, but you've opened my eyes to something to look out for - Dyneema.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Sticking with Mystery Ranch.
I just got a work tuff gear jxv it's awesome. I thunk you would enjoy how different the handle is from other large knives.
Looks good 😊.
For cyclist would you say the hip strap would take weight away from the shoulders? Being leaned over on a road bike? I have a real issue on the shoulders with long distance cycling. Not too many daypacks with a waist strap at this size pretty cool feature.
Great video! Little rich for my pocketbook but I like the idea of strength to weight. Have you done a video on budget bags? I need one but can’t afford anything that expensive. Keep up the great work!
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Sierra trading post is an excellent place to get old models of backpacks that good prices.
Great question! And, thnx Gideon for the answers! Because of the expensiveness of a lot of back packs I have rummaged through thrift stores OVERTIME for mine. If I see something great I buy that and when I find something better I may I upgrade to that. I have noticed the thrifts just outside most major metro areas are where one can find the diamonds in the rough or better quality gear.
I have the Hyperlite Windrider 3400 pack. It has a rolltop and cinch straps that can dramatically reduce the size of the pack down to essentially daypack size. It has a water bladder pocket. Plus you get the bonus of use as a full-on backpack. Something to consider for folks who like the benefits of dyneema. Great pack.
HMG's releatively new Elevate 22 is a daypack version, which has water bladder loop and hole to feed tube out of.
Nice, I Like That. I Like To Buy Three Of Them. It's For My Mom, My Dad, And Myself. Nice.
I love HMG and always carry their backpacks. It’s an insane company and quality. Even the government is using them as official backpacks for rangers in National Parks. Do I have to say more?
Are you getting your hands on a Mystery Ranch Coulee 50?
I am going to try
@@gideonstactical You already got me to buy 5 MR's. You were the first person I thought of when they announced it. 😄
@@YankeeWoodcraft ha ha! Glad to hear it. Yeah I’m still rocking the 24 L. I did two months ago love it so I need to see right now.
Love this !! Looks like a great pack ! Thanks for the video
Thanks for watching!
Good review thanks.
Hai what the nam of the headlampe in this video pleas
So, Material of High level packer/trekker, and design of a $10 WelMart Kids schoolbag...$230,,,, Thank you Sir. I have the full size hiking pack by them, its great design.
This pack has “water bottle pockets” on the outside, I guess that was the intent for this bag. Even that however doesn’t appear well thought out as I don’t see any retention method to prevent the Smart bottle from falling out. Dyneema is way over priced, crinkles and rustles when I walk or brush against any vegetation, very loud.
Almost always something I can take with me when I watch your videos, So thanks for that Aaron. I'm starting to take an interest in EDC, but I don't quite understand the thing about pouches because most are far too big to have in your trouser pocket and it seems a bit feminine to walk around with it in your hand, maybe you always carry your edc in a backpack? My hope is that you in a future video could tell a little about how you carry you EDC round, also it would be so nice if you could put togther a pocket tool kit if that make any sense to you??
What Fanny pack is that
Great bag. The material is mark able :)
please see Karrimor`s Predator 30 and Sabre 30, maybe it will be good for review .
Great video keep them coming!
The specs, overall design and certainly the price are a big no for my buying list. Maybe for long distance hikers is a great option.
You should hike out of cell service and just stay there.
Cheap option ? Chinese 3F ultralight backpack.
G'day Aaron, yep pros and cons on this one mate. I'm all for a durable, light weight and water resistant/proof pack, but if that stuff is noisy just walk'n along, that'd really get my goat.
Like the large dump pouch at rear, however in the rain, I expect water will just run down and fill it up.
Like the stowable waist belt.
Reasonably good access to the internals and whilst there is some organisation, more is better IMO.
The non breathable back is the biggest bummer for a modern day pack I reckon.
Cheers Duke.
lots of miles carrying HMG packs and other DCH fabric packs and haven't had noise issues or concerns. there are drain holes in the bottom of the front dump pouch. how much internal organization do you want? It has a bladder/laptop pouch and a small zip pocket. Yeah, the lack of back ventilation can be an issue for people. Vaucluse Gear has a ventilation pad (3.3oz for Gen2), which works very well I have actually been using a Gossamer Gear Air Flow SitLight Camp seat (3.5oz for small) attached to the pack using 3M adhesive velcro, on my HMG Daylight, Elevbate 22, and Unbound 40 packs. The SitLight is optional back panel insert for Gossamer Gear packs.
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Thanks for the comment
Expensive
For sure, but has a lot of performance compared to what I was expecting