The 'New' Idea Of India At 100 |
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2022
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How does the idea of a new India look like? Watch Dr Shashi Tharoor, MP, Lok Sabha and Author & Harsh Gupta Madhusudan, Investor & Author at the BT India At 100 Economy Summit in conversation with Rajdeep Sardesai, Consulting editor, India Today. They discuss and debate the idea of a new India and the world.
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"India did not leave congress but congress left India" best analysis of congress
This was icing on the cake
you sound dumb, as proud as you feel saying it lol
Oh silly person
Congress was never for indians .....
It was crated by britisers for there benefit with help black britishers indians...............
Wow😆✌️
Wow, hats off Harsh. What a great debate. Regarding Rajdeep's & Tharoor's arguments of avoiding rear view, I'm reminded of Churchill: "The farther back you look, the further ahead you can see."
Exactly.. 👍
Mr.Mahapatra,you are absolutely right in saying "wow, hats off Harsh "!Mr.Harsh held his ground perfectly well, and brought forward the hollowness of the idea of so called " tolerance and intolerance " with "Minority " which is inching forward to swallow like a Python .
If the gaze is resolutely fixed on past and past alone, the second half of the aphorism becomes automatically redundant. We must learn to have a bifocal view or else run the risk of being taken hostage by history.
@@monojdas-gupta5918 I guess anybody who drives knows how to balance between looking behind and looking forward. Both are required and people do a jolly good job of balancing the two, at least all drivers, and there's a lot of them.
My point is, it's a perfectly natural thing for humans, but some motivated people want to paint a picture of fear which doesn't exist, just because they want to bury their shameful past.
@@monojdas-gupta5918 I agree to some extent. Let me put this way. Notwithstanding the fact that Present is the Product of the Past, imo, what's required is a time-weighted view of the past, ie. proportional higher weightage to recency. That should partly solve your genuine concern.
Harsh ! Wow... articulate, erudite, witty with a deep understanding on all the matters. Takes on both of them like flash of sword. We need more like Harsh, Sai Deepak, Anand Ranganath, Vikram Sampath....who can speak up for India's true spirit.
Listen to j sai deepak and u will love him
@@studysmartly9616 Yess 🔥🔥🔥❤️
Totally agree with you Himanshu, u nailed it.
Exactly. Love you Himanshu Bhai.
@@studysmartly9616 i did...and i started hating the right wing. All about promoting brahminism nothing else
Rajdeep : Indian republic didn't got independence after 2014
Harsh : India also didn't got created in 1947 which is the argument of so called Nehruvians
Brilliant reply 👌...loved Harsh bhai arguments
There was no Indian state as such before 1947. It was a group of states warring against one another. If we have anyone to blame for British colonialism it is ourselves.
@@yomamasohot6411 there was no any nation before concept of nation state either.
@@yomamasohot6411 bharat warash you don't know read bhagwat geeta.
@@rishibaurasi1902 us samay bi ye hi theory chalti thi bhai. sab kingdoms alag alag hote the. Jiske paas badi army aur paisa hota tha at the end vo hi rule krta tha directly ya indirectly jese aaj USA karta h. Agar 1947 ke India ko unite bhi karna tha to force ka use kisi na kisi princely state ko karna hi padta.
@@yomamasohot6411 ohhh really ??than what way hindvi swaraj ?? maurayan empire ?? gupta ?? ashoka ???
At 5 Minutes 40 Sec; Harsh completely destroyed western notion aligned with Indian Nehruvian notion of secularism.
Two Punjabs are not together and Two Bengals are not together.
Hats Off Harsh.
5:40
I'm liking this new breed of Indic opinion makers who are educated and armed with facts.
We hope and pray that the reins of leadership goes into such hands.
the facts which is a self made facts, indian economy is still around three trillion.
With apologist Hindus like ST we don't need any invaders to destroy India. He is nothing more than a mouthpiece of his Muslim Masters.. while Sardesai is pseudo progressive traitor who will sell his own family to make Muslim people happy.
They are so terrified of the Hindu majority becoming aware of the past. INC did a fantastic job hiding India's real history because they knew as we do now, that every mosque is built on the blood of Hindu mothers, fathers and children.
Put your head in the sand and look towards the future they say, no we will not..
Me too
@@frankjackal You are absolutely right. In the last seventy five years we have cultivated so many STs that the concept of ‘Hindu majority’ itself has become very dodgy. There are perhaps more enemies of Dharma within than the threat of jihadists. The emergence of Jai Sai and a few other like minded people may perhaps provide us the last hope to re-emerge and save Dharma in its own punyabhoomi 🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼
The rise of intellectual right in India feels like a personal win for me
Intellectual right wing thinkers were perhaps always there but were vigorously suppressed by self styled liberals who were truly illiberal.
@@deesesh4294 even sometimes discarded by their own community because of Colonial mindset
Say it again!! 🙌🏻 💯
The "intellectual right" was very defensive and almost never let Shashi to put his rebuttal, feeling needy to interrupt all the times because those specific punchlines were prepared and he had to throw them somewhere. Intellectual right appeals to the emotion of fear.
@@lordvold9486 how is it ?? Any instances, is it fear if it can be historically justified??
"If you'd have so many MPs, you'd also have some say silly things 26:11" EPIC ASF I laughed out of my chair😂 Well spoke, Harsh!
Roasted
🤣🤣
That was savage af😂
Emotional damage😂😂
This is the third time Tharoor being demolished in a debate. After J Sai and Vikram it’s now Harsh who leaves Tharoor dumbfounded even more comprehensively.
It's not that Shashi is being demolished. He is fighting the indefensible. He is literally between the devil and deep-sea. Please bear in mind to the party he belongs.
U need to see with saanyall also he also demolished shashi
@@Ashnesss madam kaun se madarse se ho?
He seems to like take a beating.
@@charlesae1 absolutely correct. just a small mistake if I may point out with respect:
it should be either - "fighting the unfightable" or "defending the indefensible"
This quote touched my heart " Wherever the hindu majority declines the AFSPA comes into effect" so true....🙌🙌
What is true?? he is totally biased.. He never talk about RSS..
Then according to harsh and bjp India should run on their culture values where should be only Hindu religion... It should be fair???
@@marxist6858 Tell me which country with Majority Muslim is a secular state, give me one example
@@marxist6858 You dont even know the 'R' of RSS...ppl call them the Brahmanwadi organisation while ppl from OBC, SC, ST and even Muslims, and Sikhs join the RSS...
Btw look at AFSPA-ruled states...either in NORTHEAST or in Kashmir...
Wherever Hindus are in the minority and Muslims and Christians are in majority those states are vulnerable to India.
Very soon AFSPA will be implemented in KERALA and WEST BENGAL also in future.
@@anantsingh5107 Secular muslim majority countries:
1. Indonesia- 87.2% Islam
2. Turkmenistan- 93.7% Islam
3. Uzbekistan- 88.6% Islam
4. Tajikistan- 96.7% Islam
5. Kazakhstan- 70.4% Islam
6. Azerbaijan- 97.4% Islam
7. Turkey- 82% Islam
8. Senegal- 95.9% Islam
9. Albania- 58.79% Islam
10. Bosnia& Herzegovina- 50.7% Islam etc.
Harsh Gupta killed it! expressed the views of the general public being neutral to any political party. At the same time. It's unfortunate to hear the views of someone educated like Shashi Tharoor blinded by his loyalty to a regressive congress member spreading fear among the public. Its clear people won't support this form of regressive politics about religion, hate and favoritism anymore,
Listen to j sai deepak and u will love him
Communalism in any form is only regressive & dangerous , whether by majority or minority.
Likes of Harsh Madhusudan, Anand Ranganathan, J Sai Deepak are emerging as strong Indic Intellectuals, who base their opinions on fact and well thought analysis!!
They are brilliant and most of them have debated with Shashi
Actually Shashi Tharoor is also little bit tilted towards soft right wing thoughts but just coz he's in Congress, he can't openly come to scene.
He's practicing a thought process from a start of his career so it's not easy for him to flip with thoughts
@@msdian_abhi sir he actually aware the problems in congress and it’s history but he is but afraid as he is also not a number 1 popular leader in Kerala congress
@@sanjaypriyadarshi he's afraid bcz he ran with the thought process of defending congress from start. But when he went to United Nations he changed himself with some new thoughts when he understands overseas thought on Indian.
@@msdian_abhi agree .. but his ideas and thought process mostly one side .. he wrote an article on Nupur case and impact on Middle East ( project syndicate)- the views was one sided that they will throw our indian workers / technicians .. he never mentioned that those countries are equally or more dependent on Indians for labourers to scientist .. people in india and one special community normally goes ga ga because of his English and anti BJP.. fact is the Kerala congress sees him like helicopter dropping him in the mid or political circle
J Sai deepak, Vikram and now Harsh ……….. India is in very good hands. !
Also ranganath anandan
@@thedestroyer0 Ranga Sir not really in the same league. He is essentially a liberal, albeit not a bigoted one.
Anand Ranganathan - cant forget his " ... 30 seconds Navika ... "
Absolutely heartening comment!
Anand Ranganathan too
Only in the last 1.5 minutes shashi and rajdeep could make sense to me. Well done harsh madhusudan, we need more people like you🧡
Yeah dude was spot on hindi imposition. He said no hindi imposition. Few moments later.......
That is his knowledge of New India
Both of them held their own ground well.
What a clarity, this young man Mr. Harsh has! Thumps up. Again, Rajdeep thank you as you have brought Mr. Harsh to the debate. It's amazing to listen him.
Listen to j sai deepak and u will love him
BJP should make every MP listen to Harsh. The way he spoke and put forward his points not even half of MP could do it. Well done 👍
Very few from Congress can speak like that he is a great intellectual
We have jai shankar...beware
Because party guide lines are there
then sure BJP will lose every seat.
True 👍
It was completely one sided match.... Australia vs Namibia. I have become fan of Harsh... The way you stood the ground and the way he completely demolished and overpowered Sardesai and Shashi Tharoor. I thought Shashi and Sardesai were intellectuals and today i realised they play to the gallery rather than delivering hard facts. Enthralled with Harsha.... Thank you.
. Kannada pride. Kannada power.
young Indian like Harsh … definitely understand the bitter truth of common people …. he nailed everything 🙌👏
Its not a hindu rastra but its becoming an Islamic rastra ,that's the worry. Big big reality. Some people can talk of personal laws, others can't even talk of their religion. They are made to shut up. India is secular because hindus are secular. Hindus want to be proud hindus. We are hindus why we are made to feel inferior for being hindu in hindustan.
Good to see youngsters like Harsh putting Hindutva in right perspective and at the same time challenging the pseudo-secularism which has put Hindus in spot since last 75 years...
I think u r new to these talks, there always a bjp paid hypocrite intellectual who will talk about the extreme left of right but the reality is bjp is making it more and more extreme right
Listen to j sai deepak and u will love him he has nothing to do with any party but sanatan
@@sujalgupta6162 what yours argument if someone is articulating his opinion and didn't want to be in same bracket what you consider left or right this is not his fault.
Propaganda vs reality and people love to hear propaganda
@@azeemsoona you are talking about islam ?
Mr. Tharoor automatically assumes that hindu rashtra will exclude non-Hindus with no proof of anything like that in 2000 years. Hindus in hindu rashtra & todays’ india still live by same Dharma of 10+k years. Many Non-Hindus however have become hardened anti-Indian, Muslim or Christian first! Tharoor ignores facts on the ground!
Mr Tharoor also ignoring exodus of non-Muslms from Af-Pak region, Kashmir...
Shashi doesn't believe it! His politics does!
he always does, afterall he is coming to represents Indian National Cuuuunts. what do you expect from a delutional selfworshipping party?
I'm from uttarakhand and uttarakhand was never conquered by jihadis throughout its history.
After joining secular 'constipation' led india that has changed and now Islamists can legally infiltrate the holy lands of uttarakhand.
Huge mosques are being built and with them entire ghettos around it.
What did we gain? This disease that we will suffer from like the rest of secular India?
It's about time hill states demand separate constitution and introduce ban on land ownership.
True.
Well spoken Harsh Madhusudan on radical Indian jihadis chanting death threats and a constitutional Hindu rajya! Something Shashi Tharoor and Rajdeep Sardesai will always hesitate on. 🙏
Man! What a debate it was! I'm glad I found this. Bharat needs more sons like Harsh. I'm filled with pride and joy watching this. Jai hind.👏
I am impressed. In fact, I am floored. You are too good Harsha ji. Now I know India is in safe hands.
We have seen in the last 8 years how country has progressed; the economy is doing tremendously well; Adnani before 2014 was in top 300 richest men in the world and now 2nd richest in the world; petrol has gone upto 100; cooking gas 1000 above; unemployment all time high 😁
You keep on trusting these BJP bootlickers and India will grow tremendously over the next 8 years 🇮🇳
To be honest, I didn't knew anything about Harsh before this debate. But now I am so impressed, I will definitely read his books.
You should read J Sai Deepak first he is the best in my opinion.
Currently reading J Sai Deepak’s first book ‘India That is BHARATH’. Need to read Harsh Madhusudhanan too🙏🏼
@@bhaskarshukla1892 thanks, will go through it.
@@themathlab7365 J Sai is definitely one of the best intellectuals of our country. But please also have a look at Alexei Arora and Ruchir Sharma Jr's podcasts, which gave a much larger perspective of India and world
Me too...bro... very much impressed by Harsh..👍
It may be Sai Deepak, Harsh or any one else...felt happy to see these guys...d..
New generation of Bharat....
God bless them n all...🙏🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩...
“Cannot trust Indian national congress, any more”. Harsh, put his finger exactly on the public’s pulse.
Neither we could take Rajdeep words on face value because we exist in the present because our history existed in the past therefore.. we will have to settle our past issues too to determine our secure and sovereign future.
Harsh reduced Sashi Tharoor to a mere spectator. Every samvad does not throw up a result.
@@gauravkumar-wb3ym àSsASaASs№#¢
Just shanghi aunty
Yeah that's true, when BJP does not full fill or delay their promises, people look for an alternative and seeing Congress as it is today, give them more depression.
As an old man, it gives me great joy to see Dharma shine on the youth of India like Harse and Sai Deepak. The future (at last!) is bright.
Very bright. Youth is taking pride in being indian. Big big self confidence in India. Big big self assurance. Tharoor is outdated. Tharoors win is gandhi families win. One family rule forever and ever. Indian royalty???? Why? Bring back the original royals. Why they were wrong? Why royalty was abolished? To be replaced by their family?
27:30 "neither will the congress". Harsh's one liners are off the charts 😂😂😂
Harsh Madhusudan was great. Especially the comparison of Nazis with the present dispensation.
Vro! Will you please give me Harsh's social media id.
We are proud to have people like madhusudan, j Sai Deepak , Vikram sampath and last but not the least every indian who are dedicated to make BHARAT a Hindu rastra.
India is already multi-cultural Sanatani, Indi/Hindu civlization. We continuosely need to reform the constitution to remove priviledges given to Islamism which puts only itself above the civlizational idea of India causing bloodshed, separatism... everywhere in the world.
@@madandu exactly 👍
Anand Ranganathan ✌️
add Sanjeev Sanyal and Ram Madhav as well...
I wonder what percentage of the lower castes agree with what you are saying , provided they understand what you are saying at all .
Shashi and Rajdeep want to play ‘divide and rule 2.0’ by pitting the North vs South India.
I am an Indian from southern India. We recognize the challenge of surmounting deep structural and societal wounds our Northern and North Eastern brothers and sisters endured bearing the brunt of back to back invasions that still continue today with the illegal migrants pouring in and hostile neighbors forever disrupting the peace.
That is the price of South’s stability which affords us space and time to profit from our productivity. We stand with India and proud to pay fair & higher tax contribution for the country’s well being!
This shameful & divisive politics from a ‘Nehruvian’ 🙄
this is the best comment I read in recent times🙌🏻
Well said! North India has been a kavach for south India, if there were no Marathas there would have been no Hindu majority India. Congress & Turdesai are dyed in divide and rule mindset
@@amarko9987 Chatrapathi Shivaji is a Bharatiya legend to whom all Hindus owe a debt of gratitude. Without him & his warriors, Islamization of India would have been complete!
Tu pakka North wala hai
@@yomamasohot6411 nee bondha ra Sherlock!
what a brilliant guy this is, hats off Mr. Harsh.
Simply destroyed Mr. PlayBoy
and as usual SirDesai is having brain constipation
Harsh was quite articulate. Glad to hear new young Indians debating and exploring ideas with such ferosity and rationalism.
Harsh spoke like a bjp man Shashi spoke like a statesman 🙏
@@ramurao6635 Kitni chamcha giri karoge?
@@ramurao6635 Harsh makes perfect sense.
Rather , Sashi seems to falter sometimes.
Harsh's answer to every criticism - My party won so whatever they do is right.
He's a opportunist lapdog who run wherever power is. Congress had those in their reign too.
Shashi is a class apart from all this.
I am a Syrian Christian by faith, a Hindu by culture and I hail from Kerala
Me too. I also know the real truth of IUML. UDF. We need to get rid of these type of political party.
I do not have any faith, but I am a Hindu by culture. Also from Kerala 🔥
God bless u
Nice
Syrian Christain community is in india from 1 St century AD.I believe you guys are original Christains not the rabid American or German types.
I have always found Shashi Tharoor to be a celebrity Intellectual who is more famous for his style, antics, vocab and what not rather than knowledge. I knew it was just a matter of time that this bubble will burst and he will ne humbled. Sai Deepak, Vikram Sampath, Harsh have done it in public.
But out of all, the best roast and humiliation of pseudo intellectuals and liberandus has been done by Anand Ranganathan in St Xaviers debate. It's a must watch.
Still in memory big slap on the face of Mr. Jha and other darbari
India definitely needs more and more youngsters like Harsh.
Harsh Gupta Madhusudan you have rocked the debate. You have earned an instant fan out of this debate. A lot to learn from you through your books
People like Rajdeep has a tremendous contribution towards awakening Hindus to fight for their self respect..
Absolutely .. Well said bro 😂😂😂
I agree bro
Haha 😂😂
What a joke!
@@pulakmondal4025 It's truth... Hindus are fed up of Rajdeeps hypocrisy and they are now bashing Rajdeep in anyway they can
I feel for Shashi, he is sensible and strong leader in a wrong party.
He just lost by some votes to Banki Moon for UN président élection. One of the most intelligent politician India have & no one understands the Geo Politics better than him
😂😂😂😂 more of a wrong person in right party.
@@nottingham4420Right person in the wrong party .
Shashi: I wont be around in 2047 to find out
Harsh: Neither will the congress
I'm so happy that now we are having a group of people fighting and speaking for the Hindu/Indic view. Harsh just nailed this one! He rightly said we have been secular because of hindu majority, and hence it is very much important to protect it. We anyways are a Hindu Rashtra, have always been, it just need to be declared officially. No matter what topic it is congress spokespersons always manage to bring it to Hindu Muslim.
What is the relevance of Hindu Rashtra to an Indian Muslim ? Should this point not be relevant in a " modern civilised state" ?
A hindu rashtra doesnt mean it should be for bammins, it should be for all castes and religions
@@mcounlall9042 logical, moderate muslims, though ver few, know and understand the relevance of a Hindu rashtra.
@@venchingfu ofcourse not, hindu rashtra simply means the DNA of this country is based on sanatan dharma which cannot and should not be forgotten at any cost. If sanatan dharma takes a back seat there will be no Bharat!
@@mcounlall9042 simply because it's civilization, and Islam is religion unlike Hindu. It's a geographical identity, everyone stays in India are Hindu.
Tharoor is having hard time debating with the people steering Hindu Renaissance! Bravo Harsh. You were amazing! Keep dismantling these narratives. More Power to you
Watching someone speak so well and armed with facts to counter Tharoor’s argument is overwhelming.. Harsh is another gem in Indic renaissance..
I came for Sashi's thoughts...but stayed for Harsh and became a fan of him..what a man and clarity in his thoughts..!! 👏👏
Even in my wildest dream I would have never imagined Shashi Tharoor being dominated, that too this badly, by anybody in an intellectual debate. Harsh has literally made him speechless and look clueless. He also exposed Tharoor's paradoxical stances on UCC and abrogation of article 370 very craftly. The way Harsh made Shashi emphasize moving on to the next question is a testimony of his accurate and wise arguments. Hats off man! 👏🏻💯
watch j sai deepak vs shashi tharur as well
@@rj_ranjan sure bro
This was mouth watering as well. 🤤
Harsh has been brilliant ☺️
Sai Deepak waala dekho isse bhi zyada dhoya hai usme 😂
@@nitlover8319 Haan bhai zarur
So grateful for Shashi to keep coming on these debates, and giving a fair debate/discussion to non-left voices.
Such big heart, and such a mature mind.
Someone else would have happily avoided facing such debates.
By the way, Harsh won the debate by a big margin. Well spoken!
May the tribe of Tharoor ji grow!! For RaGa has already destroyed the Congress, may the likes of Tharoor save the space for opposition!
Harsh said the real things sashi says things which are great to hear but actually bigoted view
There cannot be any logical argument which can support the idea that Hinduism can lift the masses out of poverty and misery.
Shashi has a big heart - are u nuts
He has a bloated sense of himself and his pseudo British accentuated Delhi accent which is the pits
Fantastic perspective overall Shashi
This is a type of healthy conversation.. I really love both admitting each other's points too love to both shashi and harsh ..
Rajdeep and Sashi seem to have gave up the hope of congress ruling this country again. It is a genuine take away from this debate.
Rajdeep is so fill of negativity and hatred towards Modiji that he starts asking if constitution will change to Hindutva based constitution instead of just asking if the constitution will change or evolve. Its sad to see Rajdeep continues to be so full of negativity.
Constitution will be changed to Hindutva constitution
@@digivitti8434 hope so.
Rajdeep's negativism is negativism from his point of view
From a Dharmic Bhaarthiyan point of view, I can sense that is waht is going to happen and that is what this left liberal media is so against, despite the fact that this is not going to harm them . These morons will have 'media space' but lost on 'people space'.
I am so happy that Harsh brought up the Confederate statues. Because that is precisely the analogy I use when trying to explain why I feel the Mughals must only be remembered as genocidal war criminals.
Also, are Rajdeep and Dr Tharoor against the idea of a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for the genocide of Kashmiri Pandits?
With apologist Hindus like ST we don't need any invaders to destroy India. He is nothing more than a mouthpiece of his Muslim Masters.. while Sardesai is pseudo progressive traitor who will sell his own family to make Muslim people happy.
They are so terrified of the Hindu majority becoming aware of the past. INC did a fantastic job hiding India's real history because they knew as we do now, that every mosque is built on the blood of Hindu mothers, fathers and children.
Put your head in the sand and look towards the future they say, no we will not..
Harsh sir , what a man, what a clarity of thoughts, wow!
Harsh is best person talking about Dharma I have seen for so long. Bharat mata ki jai
Harsh Madhusudan is the best 👏.
Happy to see wise men like him carrying the torch of Veer Savarkar.
Veer Savarkar who admired Hitler and other fascists ?
Hitler was devout Christian and a race supremacist, Savarkar was an atheist and believed in Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam. These two concepts don't gel together, Savarkar never supported Nazis ideologically. He supported Hitler's military strength against Britishers, who were, by all means, more evil than Nazis.
Stop spinning half truths.
@@PotatoMan007 👏
@@PotatoMan007 Nazis were more evil than Britain? 😂
Hitler hated Indians. If he managed to get control of India he would have killed a lot more Indians than jews.
And Savarkar was a loyal bootlikers of Britain. He was a freedom fighter but he died a loyal subject of the British crown
If you observe comments patterns there will always be someone who is straw-manning a point. Looks like these people are just paid actor. Lookal at mc ounlall here.
Harsh has managed to school both Rajdeep and Tharoor. Shashi is slowly sounding like any empty shell with good English
Shashi is having limitation that he represents a political party,, he forced to be silent in some context,,, but harsha can jumb without circle,, not representing any political party ,,,he can raise his voice in any extend,,,,,
@@sudheeshgopinath2204 he himself said he is here in his personal capacityso don't overshadowed it
Sai Deepak also thrashed Sashi few months back. Shashi is pretty shallow, except his very good English
@@gopanair1 cow dung sankhees,, this is called jealous,,, u guys are jealous of shashi tharoor,, what to do, there is no medicine for jealous
Empty vessel?
Then what about the other m0r0n?
What a brilliant orator, Harsha . Kudos🙌
Listening to Harsh I feel better. Very rarely I hear people speak so well and echo majority who are silently suffering the painful pseudo secular reality.
So happy to see the modern India is in save hands... People are going modern without leaving their tradition and culture alongside. We are bless to hv intellectual writers like Harsh where we can actually learn the facts unlike writers with certain agenda appeasing some particular community. N we should support these people reading their books. Harsh just nailed it 👌 Shashi was unable to counter some harsh facts that is why he was saying Mr Harsh Gupta madhusudan got fan club.
Meanwhile Rahul Gandhi is probably nose deep into Cocaine
Harsh is projecting grandiose
economic ideas for India in the next 25 years based on the capital of " Hinduism" : what economic theory is this based on ?
*safe hands
@@mcounlall9042 You may ask Google and twitter!
This new generation is rocking!! Thank god I had some gurukul schooling influence🙏🏽
Tharoor couldn't be a hypocrite liberal like usual in the presence of mighty Harsh Madhusudan 😂😂
How cleverly the anchor is saving & protecting Tharoor from the attacks of Harsha.
His thoughts are amazingly articulated and clear even Mr. Tharoor was speechless at some points
First time I'm listening to Harsh ... The rise of a new star ! Articulate, well read, sharp !
Harsh is amazing, as always. Shashi Ji is some of those sensible folks in the opposition who believes in Dialogue, discussion, and debate. Really love this debate.
I think this is One of the best debate...🔥More nd more people should watch nd listen this masterclass...💯Rather than debates often you can see on all news channels in india like Daily soaps....😂😇
Jai Hind✌️💯🇮🇳
We do need a rear view mirror in order to move ahead without repeating mistakes. Unless we review, we cannot change for the better.
Congrats Harsh. India needs many more like you 👍
I am glad that I came across this video on RUclips and am equally saddened at the state of leaders like Sashi tharoor who are eloquent enough to put across their points but toe party line just to appease a section of society. I wish he agreed more on restoring history and we need better presenters who give equal chance to speakers without interrupting. Harsh just killed it, 👍 I am reading your books, definitely and will make a VIDEO on it on my channel• Thank you India today group for introducing me to Harsh Gupta 😊🙏
The audience came to hear Sashi Tharoor, but got wowed by Madhusudhan.
Seeing him squirm in his seat with J Sai and Madhusudan is priceless.
Not at all. I came to listen to Harsh… and I’m very glad how he presented his ideas.
Societies cannot run on parallel tracks..
Challenge to Tharoor regarding UCC by Harsh… 😆 Tharoor ran away.
@@vaidehilokare8897 oops, I meant people in the hall, not the youtube audience.
It's was 2 vs 1 but stilll u have won sir....
Totally factual 💯
They r saying we should not look back in past
But a famous quote says " Jo ithihaas se sikhte nhi hai wo ithihaas m he khooo jate hai"💯
Who won ? Sashi sir?? Ge seemed to be speechless at some points. What made you conclude your statement
An excellent and educative debate,need more talks like this and India should flourish a friendly and prosperous nation 🙏👍❤️
So much interesting, could listen them for hours.
Harsh was just killing it with well articulated facts and analysis.
Didn't like the fact the Rajdeep was giving him less time, interrupting too much, and taking Shashi's side. Both because of his arrogance and his 'unofficial' allegiance to Congress.
No facts ! Just grandiose projections and propaganda for to the current government .
Actually i saw him throw some good questions to sashi too and push back.
Enjoyed the debate 👍
समाज में वाद, विवाद, संवाद चलते रहना चाहिए क्योंकि यह हमें एक बेहतर समाज बनने में मदद करते हैं|
We need more Harsh in India who are young intellectuals and very well read and speak with integrity , conviction and with facts and figures on his tips.
Kudos to Harsh and thanks Harsh for such a good interaction.
For 5:31 onwards of Harsh's statement, Here is the another explanation for the same: source-beerbiceps shorts
We are proud of the fact that for every Bhimsen Joshi we have Zakir Hussain, for Vikram Sarabhai we have Abdul Kalam, for Shashi Tharoor we have Salmaan rashdi....
That is called Ganga Jamuna tahjeeb----- but if Ganga Jamuna tahjeb is an indication of the genetic character of the subcontinent, then ask yourself why did it not take root in Bangladesh or Pakistan ? If the ethos is plural (to coexist with other faiths) i.e Hindu- that Hindu ethos ingrains are respect for pluralism...
The moment Islam creeps in that very sense of pluralism is forgotten...!
-Ashvin Sanghi
Harsh just nailed it.finally we hv get some one which is on par may be more than mr throor.
Absolutely gem of a debate by Harsh 🙌🙌,, they both were clueless on points countered by you , , salute sir ,, Jai Hind ,
Kudos 👏 to Mr Madhusudan... for stating correctly "SOUTHERN-MOVIES"... and Not "South Indian Movies"""... as most of us tend to speak and write
One of the best intellectual debates I've listened to in a long time.
Kudos to Harsh Gupta ! Erudite speaker with superb control on language and content and extensive knowledge on history . Superbly dealt blows to Hindu basher Tharoor who should be ashamed of himself for towing wrong narratives in abroad speeches too about our govt and PM . Well done Harsh ! I am going to buy your book .
Btw he is Harsh madhusudan not Gupta..... And i agree what u said about tharoor
Tharoor is a low grade "Hindu basher" when compared to Gandhiji!
I live in Australia- proudly Christian but labels as secular; so does US and Canada and many in Europe
So why not Hindu India where every other religion thrives?
That's because australia in not a vatican city or in case of let's say UAE is not Saudi Arabia and USA is not a Jerusalem.
That's why majority in India wants a non secular hindu state. I guess you got my point.
@@mn1856 India is Jerusalem, Saudi or whatever you call it, for Hindus. When every religious community has their country like Vatican City and Saudi Arabia; then why Hindus shouldn't have a Hindu India?
Coz of long long history of suppression of Hinduism. The suppressors can't easily accept it
@@shikharshukla4852 that's exactly my point. I'm supporting that india should also rightly be called as non secular hindu state. It should not bother others much.
Question is definition of Who is a Hindu ? Is it ever Indian or is it based on what he believes?
Wonderful Rajdeep ,
You did a great job ,In conducting a debate with a dialogue between Two ideologies .
Shashi Tharoor has a lot of depth knowledge and Maturity in answering. He can be a very Good PM for India.
Harsh made his point very clear.
I also feel that India can be called a developed nation, The day we reduce the social and economical and inequality . Reduce the margin between rich and poor.
Achieve Uniform civil code for all citizens of India.
I don't think Changing the Constitution is possible, but Reforming and amending as per proper procedure with dialogue.
Rajdeep we need more of these healthy debates to get India of Old thinking.
thank you.
I stopped reading when you said Shashi Tharoor (wife killer) can be a good PM 😂😂 speaking good English with accent doesn't mean he is intelligent, well he might be according to some people but i personally detest the ideology he follows and the policies of his political party and specially his always taking high moral ground attitude from where he keep on doing virtue signalling 🤮🤮🤮
Can anyone imagine a debate like this happening on an internation plateform?
India is blessed to have a talent like harsh, what a clarity of thought.
The fact that more and more voices are able to pin point that the uniqueness of India, the cultural diversity, the civilizational values, all can be attributed to Hinduism, to Sanatan Dharma, is encouraging. Earlier, people were shy and timid to even say that.
Hindu/Sanatan majority is what allows for such unity in diversity. Not the constitution.
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But, everyone fails when it comes to talking about Caste Oppression done by Baaman-Baniyas. I wonder, why? Maybe, Indic Wing and Hindutva are Brahmanism with new coatings.
Don't worry, everything will be avenged, and when it will happen, the myth of Hindu Majority will be shattered.
@@tommygun7614 Good luck to you and your tribe. Discrimination is not inherent and riddance of it is the prime objective of practicing Hindus. You will fail, cause behind the noble words the agenda of keeping Hindus divided is clearly failing.
You r kind are helping our cause. :D
@@relentlessrock Let's see.
I think our ways and thoughts can be different but we all have one ambition and that is to make India the ‘Vishvaguru’.
New India is not a unknown modern India. Its The legendary Old India with its glorious past. We are trying to move to that India.
In order for us to look in the future, it is important for us to look and understand what happened in the past as well only then would we be able to correct mistakes of the past and can go in the future. We cannot ignore the past and look in the future at the same time. It is very silly. We are developing ourselves today because we looked back and understood what had happened to us and made changes and are changing ourselves. As simple as that. Harsh sir owned his interlocutors. It was a good watch.
You do not find solutions in the causes of problems . You need to build the future with those who live in the present ..
@@mcounlall9042 cannot build future with those kinds of people who believe Iran banning women from advertisements is totally fine and justifable.
@@mcounlall9042 Those who forget their history are condemned to repeat it. The same Shashi Tharoor dialogue in British debate. Let us forgive but not forget.
Harsh - "Iam the Deep Blue Sea". He indirectly mentions Rajdeep as the "Devil". Thats awesome!!!
You Noticed 😄 he is deep blue sea representing more than a billion Indians !
You noticed it . . !!
damn😂👍🙏
I was arrogant..I thought I was the only one who noticed that.
That only shows his crass,.... and that is not class.
@@GuruGuruGuru3 Its called presence of mind and quick reaction time and lightening reflexes
Rajdeep ask ,question and also give his opinion first. 3 to 4 times he raised shop keepers kept out off temple festival. Harsh superb.
This young man nailed it ! Dono ko dho diya !
This is the heart rendering debate for manys where The Eloquence in English Language is defeated by logic, rationale, scientific conscience... 😎
Harsh was eloquent in true sense. Banking with random words from dictionary won't establish anyone as orator or eloquent!
It was a debate between a expert equivocator and a gabbler discussing concocted stories (prevaricating everything that were asked) with someone who is a true specimen of real eloquent. Harsha was mind blowing
@@gamegal1090 Wining by means of logic, rationale and scientific conscience is more pivotal than mere eloquence. Today people hates unnecessary usage of words. Harsh may have eloquence, but the thing which helped him to outclass Sashi is scientific conscience based logic.
Both of you are trying to use big dictionary words and failing to maintain a grammatically correct sentence.
India in twenty years may have green cars, smart cities, sustainable and equitable socio-economic structures, healthy balance of religious and spiritual practices. Through the session, only Harsh seemed to resonate with a positive vision for India and its people. The current generation of Indians are forward looking thinkers, and also getting access to historically factual info. Its hard to listen to Shashi Tharoor when this outdated nut talks about communal and social harmony as the sole goal of India in 20years. If radical dangerous elements are attacking civilians, isn't it the government duty and people's responsibility to protect themselves and their communities? Instead of tackling the crimes head on, they are bullying the victims with name calling and humiliating insults. His speech, along with Sardesai's ridiculous line of questions, only incites sense of communal divide and creates imaginary hatred among their viewers. Refreshing to hear from younger, braver and humble speakers as Harsh. 💪🏼
I just skipped Tharoor and Sardesai’s parts coz they were imposing secularism only on Hindus.
So you support Hindutva?
@@YashSharma-iv7ok depends on what you think when you say "hindutva".
@@kamilshah8966 Hmm! Btw you liked my comment?
@@YashSharma-iv7ok nah, but if you want i can do.
Harsh nailed it. Great show 👍
What a great and wonderful argument put forward by Harsh, he is really a legend. Enjoyed a lot
Listen to j sai deepak and u will love him
An important question that pops up when rich and intellectual talk about financial equality is that are they ready to pay their plumbers, carpenters and similar vocational workers at same rate as their corporate staff? Financial equality is not going to fall from sky. It is when we as society will be mentally ready to pay based on value and not on class.
Apt and fabulous analysis!
Past defines the future it’s built from
the past as our bodies.
As a new young nationalistic of hindu rashtra came up with facts and ideas that were refreshingly welcome. We need more of this kind of younger lot.
The young man Harsh is the brilliant future of the country. He has powerful arguments backed by truth and a full understanding of history and geo-politics. Shashi however still hangs on to a few old rusty ideas, like on one of his debates I heard him say "The moghuls did not loot India like the British and take the wealth away" sounded so dumb. It's like someone invades and takes over your house and keeps your women, makes you pay tax, throws you in the dog box and spends your money for a lavish lifestyle and you are feeling happy about it? Here he says article 370 was not done in a proper way, how else you would do? invite the terrorists for dinner? also uniform civil code should be consulted with all minorities and his party used their vote bank protecting their misdeeds till now. Duh!!! HARSH MA MAN, YOU ROCK.
Kudos to Harsha who spoke so truthfully and eloquently. His narrative is very constructive and instructive. Keep it up... there are millions who subscribe to his views...🙏
Special thanks to Business Today 💯
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Absoluetly Agree.
Even INC is a part of that horrific history, and actually a party assisting the British in the exploitation. Thats why Itihasa needs to be kept under wraps.
All that Secularism & Socialism & Equality is sweet Commy comrade talk
and People realise it does not yield to anything on ground.
In fact it does the opposite, Categorizing, Discriminating & Negating & suppressing Economic progress etc. & no one's falling for that anymore, BJP or non BJP.
Harsh there has given enough thought to shine some light into a lot of distracted woke youth to do Ghar Wapasi and nation building, rather than protesting, breaking public property, stopping roads & shutting companies.
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Kudos to Harsh for presenting phenomenal facts and importance of our culture and pride.
Harsh wins this with logic but Tharoor wins it just for being a gentleman.
A delightful discussion. We need more of these . Gives one hope that India could be the Vishwaguru it already is but not seen to be. I mean Vishwaguru in the true meaning of the word & not in terms of a hard superpower. Also Harsh M is a revelation for some of us. Great going all.
In a recent last debate between J Sai Deepak and Shashi Tharoor, 2 distinct ideas of India emerged. On the one hand, Shashi Tharoor’s idea of India shows a limited understanding of our Shastras and a lack of Shatrubodh that follows the Gandhian legacy. On the other hand, Sai Deepak’s idea of India emerges from a strong sense of Indic identity which is rooted in its rich civilizational values.
What’s interesting is that while Shashi Tharoor’s idea of Hinduism acknowledges that Vivekanand preached tolerance, he willingly or unwillingly omits the fact that the same Vivekanand threatened to push a missionary into the sea for spewing venom against Hinduism. Shashi Tharoor, following the Gandhian tradition, projects a Utopian idea of tolerance and peace. But tolerance should be accepted at what cost? If we tolerate the intolerant, that ultimately leads to the end of tolerance. In this ‘Battle of Belonging’, Hindus should not fall for the fourth Rule of Radical which says “Make the enemy live up to its book of rules.” While the Radical factions from Muslim League used this rule extensively on the academically weak people like Mohandas Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru to hold them to a restricted idea of Hinduism which preached अहिंसा परमो धर्म ( Non-Violence is the utmost duty), our scholars resisted pushing back by saying ‘धर्म हिंसा तथैव च:’ ( Protecting Dharma and using violence for its protection is equally supreme).
MR. THAROOR CRAFTILY IGNORES THE FACT THAT ‘THE BHARATVARSHA’ WHICH EXPANDED FROM SINDHU TO SEAS HAS ALREADY BEEN PARTITIONED INTO TWO PIECES BY THE RADICAL IDEOLOGY OF POLITICAL ISLAM. SANJAY DIXIT IN ‘UNBREAKING INDIA’ NOTES THE VIEWS OF JINNAH WHO SAID THAT ‘THERE WOULD EITHER BE A ‘DIVIDED INDIA OR DESTROYED INDIA’. THE SAD PART IS, HINDU MAHASABHA, WHICH HAD IDEOLOGICAL CLARITY, LACKED A POPULAR MASS APPEAL AFTER THE DETERIORATING HEALTH OF SAVARKAR WHICH GAVE AN OPEN SPACE FOR CONGRESS TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE MUSLIM LEAGUE AND GET ITS SHARE OF PIE.
The so-called secularists who fasted for removing Hindus taking shelters in mosques after the partition, were mute when the Suhrawardy faction was raping women and when Razakars were killing Hindus at a mass level. Gandhi’s idea of India which was carried ahead by the Congress and which reflects itself in Shashi Tharoor’s ‘Battle of Belonging’ accepts Mughals as ours, because the British looted Indians, but Mughals stayed in India and made India their home, so ‘They became Us’. These idiotic claims for pushing Hindu-Muslim Unity by whitewashing the Dark Mughal history lead to falsifying Hindu Consciousness. Hindus were never taught about the real History, about the resistance against Islamic and European Invasions. Congress pushed for an idealistic idea of ‘Ganga Jamuni Tehzeeb’ which never existed in reality. Congress Party back then and the Sangha Parivar now falls in the same trap that -British divided India, and before the advent of Europeans, HinduMuslims lived in peace and unity. Replying to such fictional history, Savarkar in his Calcutta speech of 1939 said ”They say, ‘before the British came, Hindu-Moslem riots were a thing unheard of’. Yes, but because instead of riots, Hindus-Moslems wars was the order of the day”
Savarkar along with Hindu Mahasabha had no wrong intention for Muslims. In fact what Hindus have strived for since the beginning is ‘Equality’. The Equality that is hailed by the ‘Constitutionalists’ is Minority appeasement that treats Hindus as Second Class Citizens in their State. Dr. Ajay Chrungoo rightly said that ‘India faces a unique situation where the Rajya stands against Rashtra’. The state of India has not accepted Hindu genocide in Hyderabad or Kashmir or Bengal. The state along with Pseudo Seculars has been sheltering the minorities irrespective of their crimes for maintaining the ‘Communal Harmony’. A leader like Gandhi who taught extreme Non-Violence was not ashamed in saying that there was nothing wrong in Moplah Genocide and that the Mohammedans did what was necessary according to their religion. The Gandhian Idea of India preaches to call Chattrapati Shivaji Maharaj and Maharana Pratap as Terrorists, Bhagat Singh as a ‘nationalist who lost his path’, but the Murderers of Swami Shraddhanand as ‘Bhai Abdul Rashid’.
This Perverted idea of India projected by the leftists, pseudo seculars, and Gandhians has already transformed all sorts of traitors into patriots and all sorts of parasites into public servants. This whitewashed history and the fear of being politically incorrect has provided a smoke-screen behind which several types of imperialism - Islamic, Christian, Communist, and Consumerists - are stealing a march. The love of country and its tried and tested culture has been turned into a cardinal sin by the poisoned phraseology of this political culture.
For being politically correct, closed creeds like Islam and Christianity which are not in accord with the spirituality of Sanatana Dharma are allowed to subvert India’s ancient spiritual heritage for protecting Secularism. An examination of the doctrines and histories of these creeds shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that these are political ideologies of imperialism masquerading as a religion. But the judiciary, with its colonial mindset, adheres to these Christian values and evaluates the Sanatana Dharma in accordance with those values, as rightly pointed out by J Sai Deepak in his book ‘India that is Bharat’. Under the garb of equality and secularism, ancient Indian practices are being subjected to the modern Christian discourses bringing in the idea of ‘Doctrine of Essential Practices’ that can never apply to Sanatana.
To overcome this, India needs to wake up from its colonial slumber & throw its cloak of political correctness. The fatal practice of Nehruism, which was a cocktail of Hindu hatred, Islamic exaltation, English imitation, Communist infatuation, and Socialist evisceration, has already taken away the vitality of independent India. India became politically independent, but never attained mental and cultural independence. This corrupted idea of India projected by the liberals would paralyze the country unless it is replaced by the idea of Indian nationalism rooted in the idea of Sanatana. As rightly pointed by Shri Sitaram Goel, The language of Indian nationalism has to be the language of Sanatana Dharma. The more Hindu society looks at the universal truth of Hindu spirituality and culture the more readily it will reject political ideologies masquerading as religion or promising a paradise on this earth.
The very word Hindu has been made a dirty word in post-independent India. The one identifying as a Hindu is branded as a narrow communalist, an obscurantist, a reactionary. There is no such stigma attached to being a muslim or a Christian. But a Hindu who aspires to be respectable in the eyes of the ruling elite has to subscribe to Secularism, the new cult floated in the Post-Independent India. It’s about time that we reject this colonial mentality and pseudo-secularism and subscribe to the idea of Indian Nationalism as preached by Savarkar. For Bharatvarsha to survive, it has to base itself on its civilizational values. The corrupted idea of Hinduism floated by Gandhi has already destructed India politically and territorially. Now is the time we introspect before it’s too late.
Superbly written 🙏🏼🕉🙏🏼🇮🇳🙏🏼
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Superb clarity of thought. Excellent Sir!!!
Who are you man? An amazing piece of writing that speaks volume about current state of Hindus and more. Kudos! Keep up your good work 👍👌🙏