Hill House was great, up until the ending. It squandered a great, great opportunity writing wise to capture the horror, but then takes a 180 and squanders what would of been an amazing season.
@@JakeMyerz I can see why the ending would put some off-I think it's cause you don't WANT the ghosts to be real-you want to be left wondering if it's all in there heads. But it leaves you wondering other questions-is the house itself evil, or not? Is Olivia's ghost now malicious or not? The ending tied things up full circle for me so I think it worked.
@@JakeMyerz I agree I didn’t want or really like the ending they gave in s1 because they build us up so much that I didn’t see them ending the show with such a sweet/gentle ending. I wish I could say more. I just was looking for something more powerful like in ep 5 glass window scene. I just personally feel like they held back on Lil parts where they could’ve really scared us even more then they already did.
BE WARNED when you DO get to Haunting of Hill House, it's one of those shows that when the episode ends you think "okay one more...." then THAT episode ends and you go "okay maybe ONE more after this" and before you know it you'll have binged the entire damn thing. Don't watch this before bed you'll never get to sleep for wanting to watch the next episode. BUT I highly recommend that should Jeremy review this, he review it like he did The Boys-episode per episode cause there's SO MUCH to talk about with each single episode. EPSECIALLY Episode 5 "The Bent Neck Lady" and episode 6 "Two Storms".
I didn't find the show in the least bit scary, sure the guy getting his hat back was creepy etc but barely a horror, however it's was great and loved watching it
The issue I had is that Hill House set my expectations for Bly to be more of that. It most definitely was not more of Hill House. I was disappointed by my own expectations but not by the stories execution. To me Hill House is the pinnacle of what horror should be and I guess Bly is the pinnacle of gothic romance, but gothic romance doesn't appeal to me at all.
I had so high expectations aswell after Hill house. Lucky for me i heard before watching this it was a love story and not as scary as the first one. So i my expactations got low as hell, but what i got was a really good story. The characters of this story really made me come back.
I think if it was a strait ( no pun intended) romance it would be okay, or if it was a strait horror movie it would be okay but it tried to be both and it got boring fast. I do think the second half was better but in the end it just kinda meh.
@Chair of Truth i understood the main jist of it .but i missed alot of the subtle clues that it gives you that ties the past and present together .each episode unfolds like a puzzle that youll understand and appreciate by the end of the season. I really enjoyed the second watch
@Ben Magnez Robert eggers just needs to make more films. The Lighthouse was fantastic, but I feel he needs to fill out his filmography more before saying he’s better
@@menemij8934 excellent example. just like "the others", "sixth sense" makes us watch the world from the perspective of someone that we only discover at the end that was dead all the time.
The haunting of hill house has a sweet, super long one shot scene. I won’t tell you which episode so you’ll have to just check it out for yourself. 100% recommend watching.
@@brewereldridge2035 I'm little fussy with my memory, are you talking about episode 5-6, where family start continuously talking about all the things that happened in their life.
Haunting of Bly Manor - love story that happens to have ghosts and hauntings in it Haunting of Hill House - a family tragedy story about overcoming fears and depression that happens to have ghosts and hauntings in it I personally like Hill House more, because I like the psychology of that show more, and how each episode focuses on a member of the family, where you have to piece together the story yourself, and ohhh my god the CAMERA WORK AND EDITING ohhhh wow phenomenal but yeah Bly Manor.....SO good. Again, hope Jeremy talks about Hill House cause that DEFINITELY fits more into a horror theme than Bly Manor does. Also it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to compare/contrast Hill House and Bly Manor and thank GOD for that honestly.
Bly was just beautifully told ghost story with alot of love. I don't remember hill house much at this point. All the actors and actresses just played their part with such grace and dignity. This is probably my favorite ghost story to recommend In a long time.
@@ribottostudio Haunting of Hill House = Horror Story Haunting of Bly Manor = Gothic Romance. Haunting of Bly Manor fell into the same trap as Crimson Peak. People thought it was a horror story but its not.
The Haunting of Hill House was more of a Ghost story and I think people were expecting the same with Bly Manor. Bly Manor on its own is beautiful tragic and haunting love story. Hill house takes the cake though, much more compelling and scary.
Idk why people keep acting like we were supposed to be aware that this was going to be a different type of show. When I hear “horror series” how the hell am I supposed to expect a tragic love story?? Especially after watching haunting of hill house. And despite bly manor being more of the drama series between the two, I still felt like hill house did it better. People might like bly manor for its “haunting” love story but imho I was disappointed with their lacking horror aspect and the love story itself wasn’t developed well enough for me so there wasn’t much for me to take out of it
@@TheCloudRazorable Yeah I agree, on its own Bly Manor was good but Hill House was on another level of both Horror and overall story. I kept waiting for Bly Manor to get better even though I loved the the last episode.
@Necromorph-chan Yea, even without being disappointed with the horror aspect, there still wasn't much that I liked. I just had so many questions by the end, one them being also whether Dani's fiance was a ghost or not, other things i didnt get was how they permanently tried to possess the kids and all they had to do was think really hard about it??? Also i could not make sense of the timeline at all. And like, why was flora so adamant about miles coming back home? Was it because of the lake lady idk? And especially with the lake lady, i have absolutely no clue how she "connected" with dani and thats what set everyone free but then lake lady still came back for dani, like how does it fit with her story of looking for her child?? Maybe I didnt watch the series right but i was left with so many questions by the end, so again, even without the horror elements, there were still plenty of issues i had with it
I feel like people were disappoinyed that this was not as much a horror series as Hill House. I'm a big fan of gothic romance, more so than horror, so I really loved Bly Manor.
Which I find funny, because one of the biggest complaints about Hill House was how much of a horror show it wasn't lol I actually have to explain to people I recommend Hill House to that it's NOT a horror show
It really wasnt about the horror , its about the level of character depth you had in Hill House vs this show. People connected a lot more with the characters in hill house , hence the amplified effect of horror.
"The Haunting of Hill House" has more and better scares, but the story of "The Haunting of Bly Manor" was much more intruiging. I liked the characters a lot and at the end I was in tears. Great show. I love it ...
The relationships portrayed in Bly Manor felt more fleshed out than the ones in Hill House, which I suppose is a benefit of having a smaller cast. I feel like the majority of characters had solid arcs (with Miles being the least developed imo,) and had narratively satisfying endings (for the adults at least lol) . Instead of having to focus on the Inter-Familial Bonds of 7 People and childhood trauma, BM explores the ideas of Found Family and the many different forms that romantic love can take. There are similar themes, yes, but the stories are distinct and compelling in their own ways. I honestly think I was more invested in the characters of BM, villains included, as opposed to HH’s Crane family. Even after rewatching HH 3 times, there are still moments where I want to throttle Steven, Shirley, and Hugh, despite understanding the context behind their decision making.
Honestly, Bly Manor and Hill House are completely different stories. However, I, for one, really enjoyed Bly Manor a bit more. I really like the short story, the first movie based on it (The Innocents... check it out if you can!)... it's a story that resonates with me. This adaptation is a really great one, subtle, and then heartbreaking. And, oh god, the characters are so... human. Mike Flanaghan is one of the best horror director out there and I really can't wait to see what he does next.
It’s good yes don’t get me wrong, just missed the “haunting” part of it :/ also was a tad too convoluted for its own good, not too convoluted to figure out, but enough so to dwindle my interest time and time again. Hill house had the perfect balance of everything. Not to say I hate Bly Manor, because it was very well made and I love Flanagans body of work as well, will be looking forward to the next one.
this is definitely one of the best series(‘s?) ive ever seen. hill house was amazing of course but bly manor was so compelling, especially the characters and dani and jamie’s relationship. it felt so real, even if it wasn’t that scary.
@Florence C. Renard I am with you. Hill House's ending was disappointing imo, with a cliché turn of the plot in my eyes. I'm referring to.. basically the answer to the mystery - to the Whys, "what happened?"... without giving spoilers :) (isn't it a common opinion about its ending? I don't see it in the comments here for sure, just praise. Though I don't really care, am just surprised). Bly Manor had a perfectly HEARTWRENCHING ending (sorry, I had to once), but still the opposite of disappointing. Then again, I couldn't care less about adherence to specific genres, just about what pulls you in.
My brother passed from depression the year I watched Hill House, and I need to highlight that Michael Flanigan knows how to do spooky horror and deal with the process of death so well to the point I found it emotionally cathartic. There were many parallels with the show's family and overall message that it personal to me on many levels. If you liked Bly (which was fantastic), then I look so forward to your review of Hill House which you simply cannot sit on. It's worth fitting in this October.
I really disliked this shit. Stupidest series ive ever seen in my life. Hill house was MUCH better. Bly manor doesnt even start!.. completely different.. and bly manor was not scary. As a horror fan.. i give this shit a 0
After rewatching Hill House, I start to realize that The Haunting is really about us being haunted not by paranormal ghosts, but the ghosts we create so if it kinda throws people off with the love story thing, I gotta say, the first one was basically a family drama.
If he thinks Bly Manor was good lls He is in for amazing treat when he watches hill house. He’s going to watch & think they will have the same rhythm & sweetness in it 🥴 until he realize Hill House is the real deal and is a million times better. 🙃
I honestly loved bly manor and it makes me sad that people are trashing it when comparing it to Hill House. I think it was extremely good in its own way. The way they made you feel like you were stuck in the time loops and memories with the characters was insane. I felt myself grieving with the ghosts in a way that I haven't before. I guess it depends on what your cup of tea is. I feel like comparing the two seasons isn't right since they are so different.
I totally agree with you. I think that the direction that the show is going is an anthology series, so comparing the two seasons is a bit silly in my opinion. It was a beautiful show that people needed to come into with fresh eyes in a sense. But yeah, I think it was a great follow up to Hill House, and I can’t wait to see what new inventive idea they come up with next season!
I did enjoy it, however there were some things, in my opinion, that were a little left out or that needed a little more attention. But I don't think it was trash. Actually those kids were GREAT. They need to keep acting!! (But I gotta say ep 8 dragged for so long, to me)
Not gonna lie,,, I just bawled my eyes out at the end of the last episode... also a lot of people have said it’s slow... I was hooked from the first ep! Each ep is terrifying in its own right. Don’t know what everyone else was watching
The last episode is slow bc its an honest to goodness denouement and it is perfect. Five minutes an effective denouement does not make. People often complain about feeling hollow after a good movie, show, video game, book etc and I believe part of that is because they rarely dedicate proper time to a good denouement. Ending a story at its most intense moment (or shortly after) only feels curt and unsatisfying. Respect the resolution! Give it proper time!
@@PianoCatProductions completely agree! I hate it when films have the final battle and then the film ends straight after! I like to have a bit of resolution! This show did it perfectly
Wait, you HAVEN'T seen Hill House?? It's straight up the best ghost story in decades and some of the episodes are absolute masterclasses in filmmaking. I think it's a bit more consistent than Bly Manor (which I also really enjoyed for different reasons), but if you enjoyed this season you MUST go back and watch the other one! Especially given all the things you had to praise here, you'll definitely find a lot to love.
Dang after reading all the comments, I feel like I'm the only person that preferred Bly Manor over Hill House. I cared for the characters sooo much more and totally cried at the end.
My too. I liked both, but I am a much bigger fan of romance than horror, so that's probably why I liked Bly better. I get if you hate romance and love horror, that Bly might not be for you, but honestly, at their heart, they're both dramas and both good dramas, but overall I like Bly better, it relies more on character than plot.
I like this one better. The show was more mature and compelling. Stereotypical audience doesn't like sad endings. Everyone didn't expect to bawl their eyes out. Most audience doesn't like connecting to deep to the characters
same i dont like how it is compared to hill house since the only thing they have in common is having some actors back, it being classed as horror and mike flanagan being the producer i personally loved bly manor as i related to the characters more
Neither has Cjhris Stuckmann. I loved Dark but I can see how it would give a reviewer problems. It's not really a show you can binge. I always had to stop and think about the implications of what we had just seen, how it changed the puzzle you were trying to fit together in your head. It was one show I watched in a old-fashioned way - weekly.
The Haunting of Bly Manor is the best horror romance film ever expanded episodically giving most characters the proper time and development they all deserve serving their pieces of the puzzle and near the end giving you a satisfying conclusion with a catch that would usually be used to make you wait a whole year or two for a new movie and bam you get it right there. A sequel with a conclusion that satisfied me to no end. A bittersweet ending. American Horror Story who??? I don’t know her.
Man this ended up being one of my favorite shows. The atmosphere it created and the characters it made me invest in and care about and the different take on ghosts it provides just reallly hooked me. I was crying like a baby by the final episode and didn’t regret a single thing, this show is beautiful.
I actually enjoyed Bly Manor more than Hill House. The relationships in Bly were just a bit more compelling to me. The whole motif that family doesn’t always mean blood, it’s who you choose to let in really spoke to me.
Ayy, I agree! I seem to be in the minority here, but I enjoyed Bly Manor a lot more. That being said, I like both shows and will probably watch both again at some point.
I really hate those comments saying “hill house was better.” Both seasons are completely different and tell a completely different story under a completely different genre. I love both seasons and of course hill house will hold a special place in my heart but bly manor holds another special place in my heart too. Both stories were phenomenal and to compre the two does so much injustice to both stories
Casting for Hill House was perfect. The casting for Bly Manor was a mixed bag. While the children were perfectly splendid. The rest of the cast was a mixed bag. Really not that very convincing.
@@Dularr You can dislike bly manor but comparing them to hill house is unnecessary because they’re both so different from each other, they’re not meant to be similar or the same.
You absolutely have to watch Hill House now Jeremy. I'm not even gonna ask for you to do a review because I know you won't be able to resist talking about it after you watch it. It's that good & I believe it's right up your alley.
I have literally just finished watching The Haunting Of Bly Manor. (I've been binge-watching it for the past few days during self-isolation) I thought it was wonderful.
@@PoyTroy that’s a super harsh rating, but fair enough. I thought both were excellent in their own right. I respect the fact that they had the stones to do something totally different and subvert expectations.
@@craigus1991 its a 2/10 because the terrible cringy acting was hillarious if it wasn't then it would be a 0/10 i have seen 50+ series and thats by far the worst shit i have seen.
I think what I find quite lovely about both seasons is how they've tied all the stories in with a theme of a haunted, beloved house...the ghosts within, and of course the main characters and their stories. My home was built in 1875 and she holds many stories and memories. Built by a Civil War soldier...he raised his family in this house, and when he died he was an old man. His wife wrote on the back of a photo of her standing in front of our house, "with my beloved no longer here with me, my time is spent taking care of her". She died exactly one year after her husband. Through 145 years this house has only had 4 families, and they've all had similarities : military, doctors, homemaker, and educators. Like the show, real life is full of love and also tragedy. There was both within these old walls...so much love and laughter and equally, tears shed and lonely hearts. We were drawn to this house for sure. I look forward to growing old with my husband here, leaving an imprint of our memories, taking care of this old house and keeping her stories alive. I love a good show that combines both love and ghosts!
I'm not surprised that it's a romance. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong but didn't the director say before its release that this season is a love story? I think of it as a Gothic romance with some horror elements which is right up my alley. I personally loved it.
Absolutely right episode 5 was something else . It sets up everything that was going to happen in the next episodes. And hanna was definitely my favourite character. My heart broke for her
I'm still trying to work up enough courage to see the Haunting of Hill House, but I guess I might as well add this to the list of things to watch this Halloween.
Hill house I gave a perfect 10/10 it was fantastically done. I gave haunting of Bly manor 9/10, still really good but just a step off the horror pedal. These shows arnt “BOO! Gotcha!” They’re more “get this off my screen I’m uncomfortable” horror with really good character development. If you want cheap scares and loud noises that require no effort, there are better shows for that.
I loved Hill House, but didn't like this one that much. I didn't connect with most of the characters, and it wasn't especially scary, at least to me. I also think that the story was too predictable and almost cliché in places. I guess that's to be expected, though, because of the source material and because, as I understand it, they were quite faithful to it. It's a story from the 1800's after all. I'm a little surprised that some people say that they felt that this series was more dramatic. I bawled my eyes out several times during Hill House, but I didn't cry even once during Bly Manor. Goes to show how different opinions and perceptions can be.
Thank you!! Jesus!! I swear I haven’t seen anyone else with this opinion. There was almost nothing I liked about this series honestly. Everything was too predictable, nothing shook me, the timeline was hella confusing, I barley connected with any of the characters either, the relationships were not that compelling, the story about the lake lady was nothing but an info dump they squeezed into the second last episode, they barely explored any of the ghosts that came with the house and there was a freaking doll house full of them, the “final battle” with the lake lady made no sense to me and I’m just left with sooo many questions. And the sad part is that even tho this series was more drama than hill house, I still feel like Hill house handled it better, plus giving us those horror elements, which this one completely failed at IMO.
I urge you to read The Turn of the Screw. I don't feel they were quite faithful to the book at all. In fact, I was rather angry they tacked this tepid mess onto a favorite work of mine. Thank you for expressing your reservations about Bly so openly. There is such hype about it that anyone with a less than thrilled view of it gets jumped on in the comments section. How DARE you! It was the greatest thing EVER! No one CARES about your negativity! At risk of sounding like a homo-phobe, I feel because the main story line is a lesbian love affair no one is allowed to criticize it. I really liked HIll House up until the last episode which I feel cut the legs out from under what I had been watching. Despite that, I had been really looking forward to Bly. Which somehow I failed to connect to The Turn of the Screw despite the place name. I quit after the moonflower monologue and may never go back. And now there are videos everywhere gushing about How many of the hidden ghosts did you find? That seems like a stunt to me and distracting from the show itself. The Turn of the Screw had two ghosts...period. My main takeaway from watching the series was that I would have liked to have called Child Protective Services on all the adults since none of them could watch the children for more than five minutes. They had to talk about their feelings.....endlessly.
There was something in the narration..towards the end of the 8th episode. That whole sequence where we see the lady in the lake roaming with the narration and that background music...it stuck with me. It was beautiful, in it's own way.
I was somewhat disappointed because I saw and loved Haunting of Hill House. It’s such a chilling show that haunts you long after you watch it, and is deeply tragic and compelling. I enjoyed Bly Manor but it’s not what I expected.
That’s good! If Flanngan made it too similar to hill house, that’s boring. I enjoy when you can create something new and not have it the same reruns like american horror story
bly manor is another masterpiece in my eyes, it just goes to show how incredible a filmmaker mike Flanagan is. even when the general consensus of audiences didn't resonate with bly manor it's still a smash hit
This is officially one of my favorite tv shows ever, and this season in particular. Even tho it wasn’t as scary as the first one, it had amazing stories all intertwined in one big cocktail of emotions, characters, decisions and sacrifices. Each episode pulled me in and I couldn’t take my eyes off of it! Like the walking dead, it’s not about the zombies/ghosts - it’s about the people and their stories. ❤️
I just finished Bly Manor and I loved both shows. I think the reason I wasn’t disappointed was because to me Bly Manor wasn’t a direct follow up to Hill House. It wasn’t like this was labeled as season 2 under Hill House. It was under a different title on Netflix. It always felt like it’s own thing. The only connections were that it was made by the same creators and they reused a few of the actors. Plus it says it’s a gothic romance in the description on Netflix so I already knew. Both shows were great in their own right and are completely different to the point where they can’t really be compared because they’re basically two different genres.
Thought for sure your acknowledgement in this video meant a Hill House review was coming soon. I’ll keep checking back. Would love to see your review of Hill House.
As a British person watching this you can tell how American this series is. The list of cultural and continuity errors is long. Kitchen: British kitchens do not have wide chunky ceramic sinks with integrated splash backs. Bathroom: the bath featured which is low and with curved flat-topped sides will not be found in the U.K. Kitchen: The fridge is a wide almost double sized model, hardly ever seen in British homes. A house of this size in the U.K. would never have been kept to such a well-decorated or consistently designed standard. Large old house interiors in the U.K. would normally feature large quantities of handed down furniture, patched up walls, a mixture of eras, and never the flashy wallpaper that’s seen. Generally British owners of such vast places do not have the money to maintain them consistently - there’s always lots of rough edges and half finished jobs. Street scenes: hilariously stereotyped and hopelessly inaccurate for a street supposedly from 1987. The red London bus seen in episode 2 is a pre- Routemaster model, even for 1987 these models weren’t in service. The chapel in the grounds just doesn’t resemble any kind of church you’d see in the U.K. nearly all U.K. churches suffered some form of gothic revival makeover in the Victorian era. This chapel clearly has no such features and is just a studio set. The house exterior itself is not convincing. Whilst you might find some Arts & Crafts referenced homes in Scotland and a few other areas, maybe in south west England, the house featured here just looks wrong for the U.K. There are a mix of styles which don’t add up, and the proportions are curiously suburban for such a large house.
Crimson peak is a horror movie, bly manor is a horror show. The most classic type of horror you can have even. It's the public who seems to expect horror to be a bunch of jumpscares and bland writing, and when they get something deep and real, they can't handle it, cause they wanted a popcorn movie. It's so annoying. People really need to do their research before claiming something is or isn't horror...
@@INCBlackbird Well the creator even said Bly manor was much scarier than Hill House and it wasnt at all so I definitely think its a marketing problem. Hill House had good scares compared to Bly manor and thats what people wanted again. You cant fault them for watching it and expecting similar horror to Hill House.
Finished it last night, I loved it. Sure, Hill House is more horror so therefore scarier, but Bly is still quite good. I've been saying it for several years, Mike Flanagan is the best name working in horror right now. He ties character and emotion into the scares very well.
So, you did like the Bly Manor, which means (in my opinion at least), that you're going to love The haunting of Hill House. It's better than this season, and it's shot amazing! (Not that Bly Manor wasn't ...) You really need to check it out. It's more like a November / Halloween type of stuff. :)
5 minutes into the vid and Jeremy's explanation of his love for bly manor could be a 'copy past' to hill House. I enjoyed bly manor, but I way more invested with hill house. And, please, Jeremy, continue watching hill house cause (arguably) the greatest shot of a series is in the mid series. Amazing direction
Wait did you didn't review The Hunting of Hill House? Because that one was much better than this spiritual sequel in my opinion and I would love to see you review it. I personally liked The Hunting of Bly Manor, but by the second half of it it really felt like it was dragging and I lost interest to the point of skipping most of the ''lady in the lake'' background episode because it was 100% exposition and no substance. Once you understand the plot twist they're going for, the last two episodes feel really unnecessary and predictable, but that's just my opinion. Thanks for reviewing it and I really hope you'll do the same honor to The Hunting of Hill House.
The instant I realized it was Jamie narrating I broke down. I knew the girl getting married was Flora by the second episode, but, wow. Not as good as Hill House, but that last bit really hit hard. Well worth the watch.
What’s funny is that it’s based on The Turn of the Screw, and the movie The Turning is also based on that book. I remember Jeremy hated that movie. Goes to show how adaptation of source material matters!
It's not better in every way. There are a lot of differences, and there are many aspects where Bly Manor is fantastic. Bly Manor was far more emotionally devastating than Hill House for me and a lot of people. The way it explored its themes was a lot more impactful by the end. I liked Hill House's ending, but it was the weakest part of the entire show. Bly Manor's ending is viscerally powerful. And I think the mystery was better in Bly as well. But both are great shows.
@@MarkHogan994 I didn't think I needed to write that it was my opinion for people to understand that it is just that. My apologies. It is my opinion that The Haunting of Hill House is better in every way. Your comment didn't sway my opinion at all, but I respect it.
If you just look past the horror elements(not that they're not good or lacking in any way), this show is soo good. It is essentially a story about people who have experienced love, pain and loss and how they deal with it. There is so much depth and 'gravity' to the show, each episode untying the mystery a little more and by the last two episodes it so overwhelming to take in what happens to the lead characters, you can feel the payoff was much more than you expected. If you're expecting a show about people stuck in a ghost house, then Hill House would be the right one. If you're interested in learning more about ghosts in the house than the people in it, then Bly Manor.
Just finished both Hill House and Bly Manor. I felt like the writing in Bly Manor just wasn't there, in comparison to Hill House. The characters just seemed so much more developed in Hill House. Also, the accents in Bly Manor were off…
Its a good thing you havent seen Hill house yet. People set really high expectation after hill house and most were disappoined. Bly manor is more of a romance story. You should review Hill House.
I think its reasonable though for people to be disappointed since the show is a follow up to a horror series and was marketed as being one too even coming out in October.
Hill House was a masterpiece from beginning to almost ending, because the ending wasn't great, but it didn't ruin the series because of that. Bly Manor didn't get me fully in, but the last two episodes where so amazing that it's still haunting me to this day. I can not wait for a third season with a new story and hopefully a lot of returning actors.
For someone who had to read and write a critical analysis paper on “Turn of the Screw” which this series seems to be based off of, although rather loosely the more it goes on, I was kinda on the fence. It had moments where changes felt better but then it had so much extra stuff that seemed to take away from the psychological side of things. Considering I hated reading every moment of turn of the screw, this is definitely a series that kept my focus
I feel like everyone missed the point here. It’s not a love story and it is a haunting story. Throughout the series you see each character being haunted by their past. SPOILERS: The uncle haunted by what he did to his brother The American haunted by her ex fiancé The housekeeper haunted by her husband who left Etc. And by the end of it, they mention that the kids don’t even remember it. Kind of telling you that despite their horrible past they moved on. As almost all the other characters do. No longer haunted by their past. Except one. The narrator! Calling this a love story, for me, is really an injustice to the show.
It doesn't have to an either-or proposition you know. I think it's quite obvious this show is both a love story and a ghost story. And yes, much like Hill House, it features characters haunted by their past, their trauma, their guilt, etc...
This turned into something completely different than I expected. And I loved it for that. Not nearly as scary as Hill house but the characters and drama were more interesting. And the finale just wrecks you emotionally.
I'm going to try and be as spoiler-free as I can as well Both Haunting Anthology pieces have great things going for them and they definitely can't be compared because they are two very different stories and two very different ways of telling a story That said I prefer Haunting of Hill House because I didn't leave with as many questions as I did with Bly Manor although both definitely had that emotional connection. I think Bly Manor could have done a better job of setting up some pieces of the storyline/ fleshing them out more. It almost feels like this season needed two to three more episodes. Some people may disagree with me considering the slow start... I must say I feel like we didn't have enough time to fully actualize the relationship between Peter and Rebecca I feel like we just got pieces of it and were supposed to fill in the rest of everything with our own imagination. As such, I didn't understand why she had such a strong feeling towards him when he was repeatedly selfish (ok yeah maybe she didn't see how much until the lake) and on that one occasion at least treated her like complete shit when he was being possessive in the room. I realize Hannah said he treated her possessively but we only got one instance of seeing that clearly. I do think that trait of treating her like a possession makes sense considering how he treats objects that aren't his but I guess I just wanted more fleshing out so that the reveal of him coming back to her either would feel more heart-wrenching or less so. Also, the Lady of the Lake's story was great but I really didn't quite capture the rage they said she had or why after what happens in the last episode she delays her reappearance (trying to be vague here). Ok now here's just some personal preference I have for what I wished to have seen for the fleshing of the plot line: maybe Peter starts acting possessive but after Rebecca puts him in his place he starts to change his ways and truly expresses and shows that he doesn't want her to be a possession and that she's free to choose what she wants and how grateful he is that she chooses him. I think that would show nicely that for once he didn't have to try and take what he wanted that what he wanted came to him and that he earned it. And is worthy of it. I wanted a bit more with Sir Henry Wingrave and that duality that he had. Restricting it to the short time-space that they did I feel like was a wasted opportunity. Just give us a bit more of seeing him try to go about his days and or maybe a scene when he was driving over to Bly Manor as well with that duality of character. Okay before I go into a novel-length response I will conclude here LOL
@@jaydenfoyewa Basically what Jeremy said. It was misleading as a ghost story. There were some redeeming qualities and the first few episodes were intriguing, my favorite part of the show being “story time”. But as the episodes went on it was just more and more romance filler. The show is based on “The Turn of the Screw” which I haven’t read but judging by the synopsis it doesn’t have all the dour love story stuff in it, which seemed to get more prevalent as the show went on. I mean the final episode was like thirty minutes of lovers tending to their garden shop. I found Hill House pretty boring too, tbh, but at least the final climax was ghost related instead of like, a marriage proposal. I think you could have cut out a few hours of content if you removed the romance and exposition (keeping the background story of lady in the lake which was important) the rest of it didn’t really need to be there IMO and I found myself waiting for the horror plot to progress, but it kept getting pushed to the outside of some relationships that, while developed, i still didn’t find interesting.
I feel like Jeremy should watch a movie called "The Others" cause the twist in that movie dealing with ghosts and hauntings....AMAZING. I actually think it's better done there than Bly Manor.
Really love bly manor much than hill House for the universe (and the second it's a really excellent serie) so I'm just totally recommend it to anyone love beautiful and poetic love story with little strange and supernatural environment
I was about to watch the new show, but then I saw your thumbnail. Thanks for warning me and saving my time. ;) To the people out there, watch "The Hauniting" from the 50s. Black and White but scary as hell.
MY GOD. YOU HAVENT SEEN HILL HOUSE. THIS NEEDS TO BE A PRIORITY.
This was me when he said he hadn't seen Hill house... i was like ??!!!
He would fucking love it
This might sound weird but he needs to do a review of over the garden wall it’s an animated TV show but it’s really good
@Carnivorus they're not related in story, just the same director who likes using the same actors in his projects.
i agreeeeeeeeeeeeeee it's soooo much better
Jesus Jeremy, The Haunting of Hill House is gonna knock your socks off.
Hill House was great, up until the ending. It squandered a great, great opportunity writing wise to capture the horror, but then takes a 180 and squanders what would of been an amazing season.
@@JakeMyerz In what way?
@@JakeMyerz To me the ending is one of the best parts of the show
@@JakeMyerz I can see why the ending would put some off-I think it's cause you don't WANT the ghosts to be real-you want to be left wondering if it's all in there heads. But it leaves you wondering other questions-is the house itself evil, or not? Is Olivia's ghost now malicious or not? The ending tied things up full circle for me so I think it worked.
@@JakeMyerz I agree I didn’t want or really like the ending they gave in s1 because they build us up so much that I didn’t see them ending the show with such a sweet/gentle ending. I wish I could say more. I just was looking for something more powerful like in ep 5 glass window scene. I just personally feel like they held back on Lil parts where they could’ve really scared us even more then they already did.
BE WARNED when you DO get to Haunting of Hill House, it's one of those shows that when the episode ends you think "okay one more...." then THAT episode ends and you go "okay maybe ONE more after this" and before you know it you'll have binged the entire damn thing. Don't watch this before bed you'll never get to sleep for wanting to watch the next episode. BUT I highly recommend that should Jeremy review this, he review it like he did The Boys-episode per episode cause there's SO MUCH to talk about with each single episode. EPSECIALLY Episode 5 "The Bent Neck Lady" and episode 6 "Two Storms".
I watched one episode in day a d i didn't get the thrill and horror feeling,so watched all episodes in night alone totally worth it 😂
he is going to pass out after watching episode 5 😂 i still think that episode to this day and it's been a year since I watched the show !
So true! Hahaha!!!! The series as a way of spoon feeding you just a bit each episode and you just can't help continuing on so to learn more and more.
I made the mistake of starting the show at night, last say I finished it in me morning ahahah
I didn't find the show in the least bit scary, sure the guy getting his hat back was creepy etc but barely a horror, however it's was great and loved watching it
The issue I had is that Hill House set my expectations for Bly to be more of that. It most definitely was not more of Hill House. I was disappointed by my own expectations but not by the stories execution. To me Hill House is the pinnacle of what horror should be and I guess Bly is the pinnacle of gothic romance, but gothic romance doesn't appeal to me at all.
I had so high expectations aswell after Hill house. Lucky for me i heard before watching this it was a love story and not as scary as the first one. So i my expactations got low as hell, but what i got was a really good story. The characters of this story really made me come back.
I stand with you
@Carnivorus I see you're looking at it at an extremely surface level manner
@Carnivorus once again, looking at it at surface level. One thing that happens that isn't even meant to be a "scare" really. Sorry you hate quality
I think if it was a strait ( no pun intended) romance it would be okay, or if it was a strait horror movie it would be okay but it tried to be both and it got boring fast. I do think the second half was better but in the end it just kinda meh.
Hannah and Owen’s arc is the most compelling one. Hits me in the feels.
Guys, I think we need another comment telling him to watch Hill House. He hasn't been told yet.
Literally spamming the likes of all the hill house comments because I want him to watch it that bad😂
Ok I'll do it
On it
You NEED to watch Hill House. Avoid spoilers.
YESSS GO WATCH IT NOW ITS A MILLION TIMES BETTER THEN BLY MANOR!
Ive seen it but for some reason i didnt pay it any attention .im going to rewatch to see if it somehow gives me a different perspective
@@Marco.91 you should totally re watch it. I re watched it and caught so many new things
@Chair of Truth i understood the main jist of it .but i missed alot of the subtle clues that it gives you that ties the past and present together .each episode unfolds like a puzzle that youll understand and appreciate by the end of the season. I really enjoyed the second watch
Hill House, Bly Manor, Gerald's Game, Doctor Sleep... Mike Flanagan is becoming one of my favorites horror-drama directors
He is steadily challenging the audience's perception of what horror can be. What a talent he is.
Oculus and Hush are great too
@@hargunchd Yes, they are
@Ben Magnez Robert eggers just needs to make more films. The Lighthouse was fantastic, but I feel he needs to fill out his filmography more before saying he’s better
@Ben Magnez they have completely different styles, why are you even comparing them lol both are great in their own way
Jeremy: We never see a haunted story from a perspective of spirit
The Others: am I a joke to you?
Precisely! That movie is 100% about that!
TRUE
One of my favorite ghost stories! Good old-fashioned eerie-ness. Subtle creepy.
How about Sixth Sense? That's good too.
@@menemij8934 excellent example. just like "the others", "sixth sense" makes us watch the world from the perspective of someone that we only discover at the end that was dead all the time.
The haunting of hill house has a sweet, super long one shot scene. I won’t tell you which episode so you’ll have to just check it out for yourself. 100% recommend watching.
Literally the only episode I remember. Great scene. (I enjoyed the whole show, I just have terrible memory and it was a while ago.)
That whole episode was filmed in 5 takes..... a f*****g cinematic masterpiece
@@brewereldridge2035
I'm little fussy with my memory, are you talking about episode 5-6, where family start continuously talking about all the things that happened in their life.
@@rravitejamavr6650 episode 6 was filmed in 5 one take segments.
@@brewereldridge2035
Damn I was impressed by long single takes in that episode but I didn't know it was just 5 shots, that is just impressive.
Alright Jeremy, time to watch it’s predecessor Haunting of Hill House
I love HOHH
@@Haburg Saaaammmme! The show hooked me with that twist at the end of episode 1
I agree 100% Haunting of Hill House must be watched next!!
HH is absolutely phenomenal.
Hill house was SO much better!
Haunting of Bly Manor - love story that happens to have ghosts and hauntings in it
Haunting of Hill House - a family tragedy story about overcoming fears and depression that happens to have ghosts and hauntings in it
I personally like Hill House more, because I like the psychology of that show more, and how each episode focuses on a member of the family, where you have to piece together the story yourself, and ohhh my god the CAMERA WORK AND EDITING ohhhh wow phenomenal but yeah Bly Manor.....SO good. Again, hope Jeremy talks about Hill House cause that DEFINITELY fits more into a horror theme than Bly Manor does. Also it's nearly IMPOSSIBLE to compare/contrast Hill House and Bly Manor and thank GOD for that honestly.
I liked both but enjoyed Bly a bit more.
Bly was just beautifully told ghost story with alot of love. I don't remember hill house much at this point. All the actors and actresses just played their part with such grace and dignity. This is probably my favorite ghost story to recommend In a long time.
The cinematography just stupendous. 65 inch 4k enough said.
@@roshill2010 I'd recommend watching Hill House again to brush up. But I'm not at all gonna shit on Bly Manor it's so good.
@@ribottostudio Haunting of Hill House = Horror Story
Haunting of Bly Manor = Gothic Romance.
Haunting of Bly Manor fell into the same trap as Crimson Peak. People thought it was a horror story but its not.
Hill House is much much better you should check it out!
The Haunting of Hill House?
I don't know why people say STEVE is the worst of the siblings.
It's clearly Shirley.
I think The Others 2001 movie is way better
i agree 100%
It’s not much better, it’s different.
The Haunting of Hill House was more of a Ghost story and I think people were expecting the same with Bly Manor. Bly Manor on its own is beautiful tragic and haunting love story. Hill house takes the cake though, much more compelling and scary.
@@darkprose did you watch the last episode....
Idk why people keep acting like we were supposed to be aware that this was going to be a different type of show. When I hear “horror series” how the hell am I supposed to expect a tragic love story?? Especially after watching haunting of hill house. And despite bly manor being more of the drama series between the two, I still felt like hill house did it better. People might like bly manor for its “haunting” love story but imho I was disappointed with their lacking horror aspect and the love story itself wasn’t developed well enough for me so there wasn’t much for me to take out of it
@@TheCloudRazorable Yeah I agree, on its own Bly Manor was good but Hill House was on another level of both Horror and overall story. I kept waiting for Bly Manor to get better even though I loved the the last episode.
@Necromorph-chan Yea, even without being disappointed with the horror aspect, there still wasn't much that I liked. I just had so many questions by the end, one them being also whether Dani's fiance was a ghost or not, other things i didnt get was how they permanently tried to possess the kids and all they had to do was think really hard about it??? Also i could not make sense of the timeline at all. And like, why was flora so adamant about miles coming back home? Was it because of the lake lady idk? And especially with the lake lady, i have absolutely no clue how she "connected" with dani and thats what set everyone free but then lake lady still came back for dani, like how does it fit with her story of looking for her child?? Maybe I didnt watch the series right but i was left with so many questions by the end, so again, even without the horror elements, there were still plenty of issues i had with it
Having a family instead of a group of friends in hill house made it hit that much closer to home
I feel like people were disappoinyed that this was not as much a horror series as Hill House. I'm a big fan of gothic romance, more so than horror, so I really loved Bly Manor.
I agree, it was a good Gothic romance show. Loved it, cried, felt sad lol
Yea...I didnt like it as much. It's not bad but I was disappointed. I guess I expected much differently.
Which I find funny, because one of the biggest complaints about Hill House was how much of a horror show it wasn't lol
I actually have to explain to people I recommend Hill House to that it's NOT a horror show
disappointed *
It really wasnt about the horror , its about the level of character depth you had in Hill House vs this show. People connected a lot more with the characters in hill house , hence the amplified effect of horror.
Jeremy looks like he is coming out of retirement because someone killed his dog
Hahaha 🤣🤣🤣
Best 2020 comment
Dogs* he has two. ;)
@@laviniasnow4494 it's a john wick reference hun.
@@edabakb Yes, I know. :D
Jeremy is lowkey just trying to get cast as Keanu Reeves’ stunt double
lol
Gee, never heard that joke before.
Zzzzz same boring joke...
I remember when John Wick jokes used to be kinda funny 5 years ago. Good times
That would require him to be able to do stunts 😉 he is actually just trying to prepare for Cyberpunk 2077
"The Haunting of Hill House" has more and better scares, but the story of "The Haunting of Bly Manor" was much more intruiging. I liked the characters a lot and at the end I was in tears. Great show. I love it ...
I preferred the story to the horror. I dont know why but bly manor felt better to me.
The relationships portrayed in Bly Manor felt more fleshed out than the ones in Hill House, which I suppose is a benefit of having a smaller cast. I feel like the majority of characters had solid arcs (with Miles being the least developed imo,) and had narratively satisfying endings (for the adults at least lol) .
Instead of having to focus on the Inter-Familial Bonds of 7 People and childhood trauma, BM explores the ideas of Found Family and the many different forms that romantic love can take. There are similar themes, yes, but the stories are distinct and compelling in their own ways.
I honestly think I was more invested in the characters of BM, villains included, as opposed to HH’s Crane family. Even after rewatching HH 3 times, there are still moments where I want to throttle Steven, Shirley, and Hugh, despite understanding the context behind their decision making.
Honestly, Bly Manor and Hill House are completely different stories.
However, I, for one, really enjoyed Bly Manor a bit more. I really like the short story, the first movie based on it (The Innocents... check it out if you can!)... it's a story that resonates with me. This adaptation is a really great one, subtle, and then heartbreaking. And, oh god, the characters are so... human.
Mike Flanaghan is one of the best horror director out there and I really can't wait to see what he does next.
It’s good yes don’t get me wrong, just missed the “haunting” part of it :/ also was a tad too convoluted for its own good, not too convoluted to figure out, but enough so to dwindle my interest time and time again. Hill house had the perfect balance of everything. Not to say I hate Bly Manor, because it was very well made and I love Flanagans body of work as well, will be looking forward to the next one.
this is definitely one of the best series(‘s?) ive ever seen. hill house was amazing of course but bly manor was so compelling, especially the characters and dani and jamie’s relationship. it felt so real, even if it wasn’t that scary.
@Florence C. Renard
I am with you. Hill House's ending was disappointing imo, with a cliché turn of the plot in my eyes. I'm referring to.. basically the answer to the mystery - to the Whys, "what happened?"... without giving spoilers :)
(isn't it a common opinion about its ending? I don't see it in the comments here for sure, just praise. Though I don't really care, am just surprised).
Bly Manor had a perfectly HEARTWRENCHING ending (sorry, I had to once), but still the opposite of disappointing. Then again, I couldn't care less about adherence to specific genres, just about what pulls you in.
I prefer Hill House, but this one was damn good too.
No it wasn’t, it’s easily the worst sequel to anything, hill house is a masterpiece, season 2 is just a complete disappointment.
@@Archonsx i mean its not suppose to be a sequel. its a completely different story. i enjoyed hill house more but bly manor still got me hooked
@@audreynguemo8484 I agree, once you get that hill house feeling out your mind you can really appreciate bly manor for what it is.
@@Archonsx Ur harsh .it is very deep and emotional I enjoyed it .the story was scary but without jump scares.
It’s not good. Period.
My brother passed from depression the year I watched Hill House, and I need to highlight that Michael Flanigan knows how to do spooky horror and deal with the process of death so well to the point I found it emotionally cathartic. There were many parallels with the show's family and overall message that it personal to me on many levels.
If you liked Bly (which was fantastic), then I look so forward to your review of Hill House which you simply cannot sit on. It's worth fitting in this October.
This is not a horror story.
Its a love story.
Same thing really
It's a beautifully told ghost love story.
I love you guys.
Ya, and it was fucking awful.
More like a gothic love story.
I came to the comments to see people’s thoughts on how perfectly splendid bly manor was, and all I see is Hill House😔
Is this new one good haven't watch it yet
@@ezraelreynolds3442 it’s perfectly splendid
PERFECTLY SPLENDID!
As a person who binged 2 shows stranger things and bly manor until 12am at night I hate myself now
I really disliked this shit. Stupidest series ive ever seen in my life. Hill house was MUCH better. Bly manor doesnt even start!.. completely different.. and bly manor was not scary. As a horror fan.. i give this shit a 0
Let’s try this on Jeremy video everyone: this show was “PERFECTLY SPLENDID”
Hill House is scarier but Bly Manor feels more...dreadful, by the end.
Right. The depiction of "hell" in Bly Manor is gut wrenching and the loops of memories that never will be feels so hollow and dreadful.
After rewatching Hill House, I start to realize that The Haunting is really about us being haunted not by paranormal ghosts, but the ghosts we create so if it kinda throws people off with the love story thing, I gotta say, the first one was basically a family drama.
Agreed.
Haunting of hill house is pretty good
Haunting of hill house is perfectly splendid..
Definitely a watch
If he thinks Bly Manor was good lls He is in for amazing treat when he watches hill house. He’s going to watch & think they will have the same rhythm & sweetness in it 🥴 until he realize Hill House is the real deal and is a million times better. 🙃
Definitely better than Bly. Wish he reviewed it
.. better
The last episode broke my heart so bad. I sobbed for the entire hour. It was so beautiful and heartbreaking and well written
I honestly loved bly manor and it makes me sad that people are trashing it when comparing it to Hill House. I think it was extremely good in its own way. The way they made you feel like you were stuck in the time loops and memories with the characters was insane. I felt myself grieving with the ghosts in a way that I haven't before. I guess it depends on what your cup of tea is. I feel like comparing the two seasons isn't right since they are so different.
It was trash. 🤷♀️
I totally agree with you. I think that the direction that the show is going is an anthology series, so comparing the two seasons is a bit silly in my opinion. It was a beautiful show that people needed to come into with fresh eyes in a sense. But yeah, I think it was a great follow up to Hill House, and I can’t wait to see what new inventive idea they come up with next season!
I did enjoy it, however there were some things, in my opinion, that were a little left out or that needed a little more attention. But I don't think it was trash. Actually those kids were GREAT. They need to keep acting!!
(But I gotta say ep 8 dragged for so long, to me)
exactly i understand if someone didn't like bly but the need to compare it SO much is really sad
Not gonna lie,,, I just bawled my eyes out at the end of the last episode... also a lot of people have said it’s slow... I was hooked from the first ep! Each ep is terrifying in its own right. Don’t know what everyone else was watching
Same.
The last episode is slow bc its an honest to goodness denouement and it is perfect. Five minutes an effective denouement does not make. People often complain about feeling hollow after a good movie, show, video game, book etc and I believe part of that is because they rarely dedicate proper time to a good denouement. Ending a story at its most intense moment (or shortly after) only feels curt and unsatisfying. Respect the resolution! Give it proper time!
@@PianoCatProductions completely agree! I hate it when films have the final battle and then the film ends straight after! I like to have a bit of resolution! This show did it perfectly
The last episode was just buckets of sadness and bittersweet.
@@ScreamingTc you're not wrong. Sometimes it was hard to see how beautiful it was through my tears
Jeremy looks like he’s about to fight the Boss. I dig it.
mgs joke? :D
What do you mean?
@@robertviberg6754 Ye
@@darkscholar625 nice:D
Actually. With an eyepatch and a horn, he looks ready to take skull face.
Wait, you HAVEN'T seen Hill House??
It's straight up the best ghost story in decades and some of the episodes are absolute masterclasses in filmmaking.
I think it's a bit more consistent than Bly Manor (which I also really enjoyed for different reasons), but if you enjoyed this season you MUST go back and watch the other one!
Especially given all the things you had to praise here, you'll definitely find a lot to love.
The Haunting of Bly Manor is perfectly splendid.
Nice
Not really, it's about as corny as that catchphrase.
*I could've done without the gay romance but other than that it was great.*
@@starhunter9085 yea it seemed a bit forced
@@meetmyfiance *It always does in shows and movies because it's just woke culture crap.*
Dang after reading all the comments, I feel like I'm the only person that preferred Bly Manor over Hill House. I cared for the characters sooo much more and totally cried at the end.
My too. I liked both, but I am a much bigger fan of romance than horror, so that's probably why I liked Bly better. I get if you hate romance and love horror, that Bly might not be for you, but honestly, at their heart, they're both dramas and both good dramas, but overall I like Bly better, it relies more on character than plot.
I like this one better. The show was more mature and compelling. Stereotypical audience doesn't like sad endings. Everyone didn't expect to bawl their eyes out. Most audience doesn't like connecting to deep to the characters
I like it better too! You’re not alone.
same i dont like how it is compared to hill house since the only thing they have in common is having some actors back, it being classed as horror and mike flanagan being the producer i personally loved bly manor as i related to the characters more
You still have not seen Dark on Netflix. That's a mistake, Jeremy.
Neither has Cjhris Stuckmann. I loved Dark but I can see how it would give a reviewer problems. It's not really a show you can binge. I always had to stop and think about the
implications of what we had just seen, how it changed the puzzle you were trying to fit together in your head. It was one show I watched in a old-fashioned way - weekly.
Yeah Jeremy, try to watch it..
it will blow your minds off.
In my humble opinion (respecting everyone else), Dark is trash
The Haunting of Bly Manor is the best horror romance film ever expanded episodically giving most characters the proper time and development they all deserve serving their pieces of the puzzle and near the end giving you a satisfying conclusion with a catch that would usually be used to make you wait a whole year or two for a new movie and bam you get it right there. A sequel with a conclusion that satisfied me to no end. A bittersweet ending. American Horror Story who??? I don’t know her.
American Horror Story is everything!!!!
Agreed.
@@samariabraziel7733 it used to be. Now it’s nothing but the lady in the lake of horror shows for me.
@@TonyLehane the last season was amazing wtf although I wish it had creepy ending instead of a happy which doesn’t seem make sense for AHS.
Not a film but a series.
It was rubbish. The only good thing about it was the young boy's acting
Glad to know I’m not the only one with ADHD that forgets to go back and finish a series.
Man this ended up being one of my favorite shows. The atmosphere it created and the characters it made me invest in and care about and the different take on ghosts it provides just reallly hooked me. I was crying like a baby by the final episode and didn’t regret a single thing, this show is beautiful.
Fully agree. By the end of the last episode, I felt a little broken inside lol. So fucking good.
I wanted to cry soo god damn bad. I was just relishing each and every beautifully crafted episode.
You're easily moved then, because this show was a complete mess outside of the cinematography
Same, it took me a while to get invested in the characters but by the end I was crying my eyes out!
I agree.
I actually enjoyed Bly Manor more than Hill House. The relationships in Bly were just a bit more compelling to me. The whole motif that family doesn’t always mean blood, it’s who you choose to let in really spoke to me.
Ayy, I agree! I seem to be in the minority here, but I enjoyed Bly Manor a lot more. That being said, I like both shows and will probably watch both again at some point.
The characters of Bly are more likable. The older sister and brother from Hill house were a-holes.
Yeah..more socialist trash. Family is blood.
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 what... not sure where you got the socialist part from but, whatever. 👀
@@algorithmicalychallenged.291 Damn. Well, adopted folks can just bounce huh?
I really hate those comments saying “hill house was better.” Both seasons are completely different and tell a completely different story under a completely different genre. I love both seasons and of course hill house will hold a special place in my heart but bly manor holds another special place in my heart too. Both stories were phenomenal and to compre the two does so much injustice to both stories
Casting for Hill House was perfect. The casting for Bly Manor was a mixed bag. While the children were perfectly splendid. The rest of the cast was a mixed bag. Really not that very convincing.
i do too like let us enjoy they are both phenomenal
@@Dularr You can dislike bly manor but comparing them to hill house is unnecessary because they’re both so different from each other, they’re not meant to be similar or the same.
Agreed
@@nikitalachke1808 exactly!
You absolutely have to watch Hill House now Jeremy.
I'm not even gonna ask for you to do a review because I know you won't be able to resist talking about it after you watch it. It's that good & I believe it's right up your alley.
Bly Manor is 100% a love story with horror elements to it and I'm so into it
Literally just finished and I’m crying like a baby.
I have literally just finished watching The Haunting Of Bly Manor.
(I've been binge-watching it for the past few days during self-isolation)
I thought it was wonderful.
Bly Manor is fantastic, solid 9/10.
Hill House is slightly better however, that gets 10/10.
Nooo
True
Bly manor is a 4/10 at best, hill house is a solid 10, felt like bly manor just drug on. Extremely boring parts in between the season
@@PoyTroy that’s a super harsh rating, but fair enough. I thought both were excellent in their own right. I respect the fact that they had the stones to do something totally different and subvert expectations.
@@craigus1991 its a 2/10 because the terrible cringy acting was hillarious
if it wasn't then it would be a 0/10
i have seen 50+ series and thats by far the worst shit i have seen.
YOU NEED TO WATCH THE HAUNTING OF HILL HOUSE IT’S A MASTERPIECE.
I SECOND THIS
It was a beautiful gothic love story, the score, the acting and the cinematography, all in all it was a good show 👌
Hill house is definitely a better overall season/ haunting and has a stronger story imo, def do a review on it!
I dont think the story was better but the overall scares and suspense was much better but the stories are both great
I preferred bly, but ig it’s all subjective!
I think what I find quite lovely about both seasons is how they've tied all the stories in with a theme of a haunted, beloved house...the ghosts within, and of course the main characters and their stories. My home was built in 1875 and she holds many stories and memories. Built by a Civil War soldier...he raised his family in this house, and when he died he was an old man. His wife wrote on the back of a photo of her standing in front of our house, "with my beloved no longer here with me, my time is spent taking care of her". She died exactly one year after her husband. Through 145 years this house has only had 4 families, and they've all had similarities : military, doctors, homemaker, and educators. Like the show, real life is full of love and also tragedy. There was both within these old walls...so much love and laughter and equally, tears shed and lonely hearts. We were drawn to this house for sure. I look forward to growing old with my husband here, leaving an imprint of our memories, taking care of this old house and keeping her stories alive. I love a good show that combines both love and ghosts!
Comment Section: HILL HOUSE!!!
Me: Yeah, Hill house
I'm not surprised that it's a romance. Maybe i'm remembering it wrong but didn't the director say before its release that this season is a love story? I think of it as a Gothic romance with some horror elements which is right up my alley. I personally loved it.
Absolutely right episode 5 was something else . It sets up everything that was going to happen in the next episodes. And hanna was definitely my favourite character. My heart broke for her
I'm still trying to work up enough courage to see the Haunting of Hill House, but I guess I might as well add this to the list of things to watch this Halloween.
I barely found it scary at all. It's fine but also overrated imo as well.
@@99oildrops my husband and I couldn't even finished The Haunting one because it was getting boring
Hill house I gave a perfect 10/10 it was fantastically done. I gave haunting of Bly manor 9/10, still really good but just a step off the horror pedal. These shows arnt “BOO! Gotcha!” They’re more “get this off my screen I’m uncomfortable” horror with really good character development. If you want cheap scares and loud noises that require no effort, there are better shows for that.
@@Time_Marine 100% agree there, story was so compelling. One of the best TV shows I've ever seen
It's so good. You need to watch it.
I loved Hill House, but didn't like this one that much. I didn't connect with most of the characters, and it wasn't especially scary, at least to me. I also think that the story was too predictable and almost cliché in places. I guess that's to be expected, though, because of the source material and because, as I understand it, they were quite faithful to it. It's a story from the 1800's after all.
I'm a little surprised that some people say that they felt that this series was more dramatic. I bawled my eyes out several times during Hill House, but I didn't cry even once during Bly Manor. Goes to show how different opinions and perceptions can be.
Thank you!! Jesus!! I swear I haven’t seen anyone else with this opinion. There was almost nothing I liked about this series honestly. Everything was too predictable, nothing shook me, the timeline was hella confusing, I barley connected with any of the characters either, the relationships were not that compelling, the story about the lake lady was nothing but an info dump they squeezed into the second last episode, they barely explored any of the ghosts that came with the house and there was a freaking doll house full of them, the “final battle” with the lake lady made no sense to me and I’m just left with sooo many questions. And the sad part is that even tho this series was more drama than hill house, I still feel like Hill house handled it better, plus giving us those horror elements, which this one completely failed at IMO.
I urge you to read The Turn of the Screw. I don't feel they were quite faithful to the book at all. In fact, I was rather angry they tacked this tepid mess onto a favorite work of mine.
Thank you for expressing your reservations about Bly so openly. There is such hype about it that anyone with a less than thrilled view of it gets jumped on in the comments
section. How DARE you! It was the greatest thing EVER! No one CARES about your negativity! At risk of sounding like a homo-phobe, I feel because the main story line is a
lesbian love affair no one is allowed to criticize it. I really liked HIll House up until the last episode which I feel cut the legs out from under what I had been watching. Despite
that, I had been really looking forward to Bly. Which somehow I failed to connect to The Turn of the Screw despite the place name. I quit after the moonflower monologue and
may never go back. And now there are videos everywhere gushing about How many of the hidden ghosts did you find? That seems like a stunt to me and distracting from the
show itself. The Turn of the Screw had two ghosts...period. My main takeaway from watching the series was that I would have liked to have called Child Protective Services on
all the adults since none of them could watch the children for more than five minutes. They had to talk about their feelings.....endlessly.
Extremely predictable. I predicted the whole thing
There was something in the narration..towards the end of the 8th episode. That whole sequence where we see the lady in the lake roaming with the narration and that background music...it stuck with me. It was beautiful, in it's own way.
I was somewhat disappointed because I saw and loved Haunting of Hill House. It’s such a chilling show that haunts you long after you watch it, and is deeply tragic and compelling. I enjoyed Bly Manor but it’s not what I expected.
That’s good! If Flanngan made it too similar to hill house, that’s boring. I enjoy when you can create something new and not have it the same reruns like american horror story
@@jakebrown1941 they’re both completely different, they aren’t suppose to be the same
Though still incredibly enjoyable, I felt it was a step down from Hill House...
bly manor is another masterpiece in my eyes, it just goes to show how incredible a filmmaker mike Flanagan is. even when the general consensus of audiences didn't resonate with bly manor it's still a smash hit
@@themcmexchange2938 Fr, I felt more attached to the characters it was more sad to me. Especially at the end when Dani died😔
I felt like it was a step up😅but I think everyone will have their preference
This is officially one of my favorite tv shows ever, and this season in particular. Even tho it wasn’t as scary as the first one, it had amazing stories all intertwined in one big cocktail of emotions, characters, decisions and sacrifices.
Each episode pulled me in and I couldn’t take my eyes off of it!
Like the walking dead, it’s not about the zombies/ghosts - it’s about the people and their stories. ❤️
the walking dead is a terrible show after season 4..
@@vvsparis I understand what you mean, it did have a little quality dive but for me it will always have a special place in my heart.
@@mmariankaa okay i gotchuu :)
I just finished watching the show with my girlfriend an hour ago and what I can honestly say is that it is...
ABSOLUTELY SPLENDID!!! 11/10
True!
I just finished Bly Manor and I loved both shows. I think the reason I wasn’t disappointed was because to me Bly Manor wasn’t a direct follow up to Hill House. It wasn’t like this was labeled as season 2 under Hill House. It was under a different title on Netflix. It always felt like it’s own thing. The only connections were that it was made by the same creators and they reused a few of the actors. Plus it says it’s a gothic romance in the description on Netflix so I already knew. Both shows were great in their own right and are completely different to the point where they can’t really be compared because they’re basically two different genres.
Wait sooo you haven’t seen hill house? THAT show was REALLY GOOD. It’s Halloween so pleaaase watch it.
Have you ever seen the ghost movie "The Others" with Nicole Kidman? it's also about seeing things from the ghost's perspective.
Haunting of Bly manor and Hill house are absolutely amazing!!❤️
We need a season 3!! This anthology series is the best ever!!
Thought for sure your acknowledgement in this video meant a Hill House review was coming soon. I’ll keep checking back. Would love to see your review of Hill House.
As a British person watching this you can tell how American this series is. The list of cultural and continuity errors is long. Kitchen: British kitchens do not have wide chunky ceramic sinks with integrated splash backs. Bathroom: the bath featured which is low and with curved flat-topped sides will not be found in the U.K. Kitchen: The fridge is a wide almost double sized model, hardly ever seen in British homes. A house of this size in the U.K. would never have been kept to such a well-decorated or consistently designed standard. Large old house interiors in the U.K. would normally feature large quantities of handed down furniture, patched up walls, a mixture of eras, and never the flashy wallpaper that’s seen. Generally British owners of such vast places do not have the money to maintain them consistently - there’s always lots of rough edges and half finished jobs. Street scenes: hilariously stereotyped and hopelessly inaccurate for a street supposedly from 1987. The red London bus seen in episode 2 is a pre- Routemaster model, even for 1987 these models weren’t in service. The chapel in the grounds just doesn’t resemble any kind of church you’d see in the U.K. nearly all U.K. churches suffered some form of gothic revival makeover in the Victorian era. This chapel clearly has no such features and is just a studio set. The house exterior itself is not convincing. Whilst you might find some Arts & Crafts referenced homes in Scotland and a few other areas, maybe in south west England, the house featured here just looks wrong for the U.K. There are a mix of styles which don’t add up, and the proportions are curiously suburban for such a large house.
The Haunting of Hill House is one of the best pieces of horror I've ever seen. Watch it!
Marketing failed this show just as it failed the movie Crimson Peak. It's Gothic Romance and it seems they really don't know how to promote it.
Should’ve just called it Bly Manor and marketed it as a Love Story - - Characters are Great.. but it’s Boring af sometimes
Crimson peak is a horror movie, bly manor is a horror show. The most classic type of horror you can have even. It's the public who seems to expect horror to be a bunch of jumpscares and bland writing, and when they get something deep and real, they can't handle it, cause they wanted a popcorn movie. It's so annoying. People really need to do their research before claiming something is or isn't horror...
@@INCBlackbird This!!! thank you
@@INCBlackbird Well the creator even said Bly manor was much scarier than Hill House and it wasnt at all so I definitely think its a marketing problem. Hill House had good scares compared to Bly manor and thats what people wanted again. You cant fault them for watching it and expecting similar horror to Hill House.
@@benprickett8894 what does or does not scare you is subjective. I don't think either show is scary, that doesn't mean they're not horror...
Hill house is one of the best shows I’ve ever seen. It was so much deeper than a horror.
Jeremy looks more and more like ancient Greek philosopher every time I visit his channel. I like the new look!
Finished it last night, I loved it. Sure, Hill House is more horror so therefore scarier, but Bly is still quite good. I've been saying it for several years, Mike Flanagan is the best name working in horror right now. He ties character and emotion into the scares very well.
So, you did like the Bly Manor, which means (in my opinion at least), that you're going to love The haunting of Hill House. It's better than this season, and it's shot amazing! (Not that Bly Manor wasn't ...) You really need to check it out. It's more like a November / Halloween type of stuff. :)
5 minutes into the vid and Jeremy's explanation of his love for bly manor could be a 'copy past' to hill House.
I enjoyed bly manor, but I way more invested with hill house. And, please, Jeremy, continue watching hill house cause (arguably) the greatest shot of a series is in the mid series. Amazing direction
Wait did you didn't review The Hunting of Hill House? Because that one was much better than this spiritual sequel in my opinion and I would love to see you review it. I personally liked The Hunting of Bly Manor, but by the second half of it it really felt like it was dragging and I lost interest to the point of skipping most of the ''lady in the lake'' background episode because it was 100% exposition and no substance. Once you understand the plot twist they're going for, the last two episodes feel really unnecessary and predictable, but that's just my opinion. Thanks for reviewing it and I really hope you'll do the same honor to The Hunting of Hill House.
Bly manor was more sad in my opinion, but hill house was way scarier
The instant I realized it was Jamie narrating I broke down. I knew the girl getting married was Flora by the second episode, but, wow. Not as good as Hill House, but that last bit really hit hard. Well worth the watch.
What’s funny is that it’s based on The Turn of the Screw, and the movie The Turning is also based on that book. I remember Jeremy hated that movie. Goes to show how adaptation of source material matters!
The haunting of Hill House is better in every way. Please watch and review that.
It's not better in every way. There are a lot of differences, and there are many aspects where Bly Manor is fantastic. Bly Manor was far more emotionally devastating than Hill House for me and a lot of people. The way it explored its themes was a lot more impactful by the end. I liked Hill House's ending, but it was the weakest part of the entire show. Bly Manor's ending is viscerally powerful. And I think the mystery was better in Bly as well. But both are great shows.
@@MarkHogan994 I didn't think I needed to write that it was my opinion for people to understand that it is just that. My apologies. It is my opinion that The Haunting of Hill House is better in every way. Your comment didn't sway my opinion at all, but I respect it.
This series was stunning😍 I can’t stop thinking about it
Be ashamed that you haven't seen hill house Mr jerremy
If you just look past the horror elements(not that they're not good or lacking in any way), this show is soo good. It is essentially a story about people who have experienced love, pain and loss and how they deal with it. There is so much depth and 'gravity' to the show, each episode untying the mystery a little more and by the last two episodes it so overwhelming to take in what happens to the lead characters, you can feel the payoff was much more than you expected.
If you're expecting a show about people stuck in a ghost house, then Hill House would be the right one. If you're interested in learning more about ghosts in the house than the people in it, then Bly Manor.
Bly Manor was so beautifully written and the ending couldn't have been more perfect
The best thing about this season was the hot gardener.
On a halloween show?
@@Blackkey034 it's barely a Halloween show. Hill house was much better for a Halloween binge.
Peter Quint was the hottest and I'm not even gay
And Dani Clayton
Dani was by far the hottest, let’s be honest
3:11 Jeremy was like “oh shit no the finger CANNOT go through that hole!”
Try the sentence again
Hahaha. I caught the same thing!
I thought this show was just... *perfectly splendid*
Just finished both Hill House and Bly Manor. I felt like the writing in Bly Manor just wasn't there, in comparison to Hill House. The characters just seemed so much more developed in Hill House. Also, the accents in Bly Manor were off…
I know it's way too old to be relevant, but please do Hill House! Easily my favorite season of a TV show ever, just edging out Season 1 of Westworld.
I'd even love seeing episode by episode reviews as if it was just coming out. There is so much to dissect in that show.
Yea think you need to watch Hill House. Has the emotional and drama aspects of bly, but is a bit more horror
perfectly splendid.
Perfectly Splendid indeed.
Prefect shitshow
Its a good thing you havent seen Hill house yet. People set really high expectation after hill house and most were disappoined. Bly manor is more of a romance story. You should review Hill House.
I think its reasonable though for people to be disappointed since the show is a follow up to a horror series and was marketed as being one too even coming out in October.
Hill House was a masterpiece from beginning to almost ending, because the ending wasn't great, but it didn't ruin the series because of that.
Bly Manor didn't get me fully in, but the last two episodes where so amazing that it's still haunting me to this day.
I can not wait for a third season with a new story and hopefully a lot of returning actors.
For someone who had to read and write a critical analysis paper on “Turn of the Screw” which this series seems to be based off of, although rather loosely the more it goes on, I was kinda on the fence. It had moments where changes felt better but then it had so much extra stuff that seemed to take away from the psychological side of things. Considering I hated reading every moment of turn of the screw, this is definitely a series that kept my focus
Is this Turn of the Screw with pointless romance subplots added in?
I feel like everyone missed the point here. It’s not a love story and it is a haunting story. Throughout the series you see each character being haunted by their past.
SPOILERS:
The uncle haunted by what he did to his brother
The American haunted by her ex fiancé
The housekeeper haunted by her husband who left
Etc.
And by the end of it, they mention that the kids don’t even remember it. Kind of telling you that despite their horrible past they moved on. As almost all the other characters do. No longer haunted by their past. Except one. The narrator!
Calling this a love story, for me, is really an injustice to the show.
I agree 100%
I mean there's a difference between moving on and completely forgetting, they didn't even remember any of the adults that they used to be fond of
It doesn't have to an either-or proposition you know. I think it's quite obvious this show is both a love story and a ghost story. And yes, much like Hill House, it features characters haunted by their past, their trauma, their guilt, etc...
Sounds like he is just describing "The others" that nicole kidman movie from early 00s. But with romance.
The others was awesome. Very underappreciated ghost movie.
This turned into something completely different than I expected. And I loved it for that. Not nearly as scary as Hill house but the characters and drama were more interesting. And the finale just wrecks you emotionally.
I'm not gonna lie just rewatched bly manor and again I'm emotionally broken
I'm going to try and be as spoiler-free as I can as well
Both Haunting Anthology pieces have great things going for them and they definitely can't be compared because they are two very different stories and two very different ways of telling a story
That said I prefer Haunting of Hill House because I didn't leave with as many questions as I did with Bly Manor although both definitely had that emotional connection.
I think Bly Manor could have done a better job of setting up some pieces of the storyline/ fleshing them out more. It almost feels like this season needed two to three more episodes. Some people may disagree with me considering the slow start...
I must say I feel like we didn't have enough time to fully actualize the relationship between Peter and Rebecca I feel like we just got pieces of it and were supposed to fill in the rest of everything with our own imagination. As such, I didn't understand why she had such a strong feeling towards him when he was repeatedly selfish (ok yeah maybe she didn't see how much until the lake) and on that one occasion at least treated her like complete shit when he was being possessive in the room. I realize Hannah said he treated her possessively but we only got one instance of seeing that clearly. I do think that trait of treating her like a possession makes sense considering how he treats objects that aren't his but I guess I just wanted more fleshing out so that the reveal of him coming back to her either would feel more heart-wrenching or less so.
Also, the Lady of the Lake's story was great but I really didn't quite capture the rage they said she had or why after what happens in the last episode she delays her reappearance (trying to be vague here).
Ok now here's just some personal preference I have for what I wished to have seen for the fleshing of the plot line: maybe Peter starts acting possessive but after Rebecca puts him in his place he starts to change his ways and truly expresses and shows that he doesn't want her to be a possession and that she's free to choose what she wants and how grateful he is that she chooses him. I think that would show nicely that for once he didn't have to try and take what he wanted that what he wanted came to him and that he earned it. And is worthy of it.
I wanted a bit more with Sir Henry Wingrave and that duality that he had. Restricting it to the short time-space that they did I feel like was a wasted opportunity. Just give us a bit more of seeing him try to go about his days and or maybe a scene when he was driving over to Bly Manor as well with that duality of character.
Okay before I go into a novel-length response I will conclude here LOL
I got completely baited with this one. I'm the percentage of the audience who is pissed off.
Same. I actually finished the show a few days ago and said “What the hell was that? I’m pissed.”
@@hazyhalfmoon why are you guys pissed??
@@jaydenfoyewa Basically what Jeremy said. It was misleading as a ghost story. There were some redeeming qualities and the first few episodes were intriguing, my favorite part of the show being “story time”. But as the episodes went on it was just more and more romance filler. The show is based on “The Turn of the Screw” which I haven’t read but judging by the synopsis it doesn’t have all the dour love story stuff in it, which seemed to get more prevalent as the show went on. I mean the final episode was like thirty minutes of lovers tending to their garden shop. I found Hill House pretty boring too, tbh, but at least the final climax was ghost related instead of like, a marriage proposal. I think you could have cut out a few hours of content if you removed the romance and exposition (keeping the background story of lady in the lake which was important) the rest of it didn’t really need to be there IMO and I found myself waiting for the horror plot to progress, but it kept getting pushed to the outside of some relationships that, while developed, i still didn’t find interesting.
This show was crap and terribly executed
Just finished watched it. It was okay! Not sure why people cried at the end lol
I feel like Jeremy should watch a movie called "The Others" cause the twist in that movie dealing with ghosts and hauntings....AMAZING.
I actually think it's better done there than Bly Manor.
that movie is SO GOOD.
I think The Others is also based on The Turn of the Screw.
Last time I was this early, Jeremy didn’t have a beard.
Uve always been early
Ok you'll get a special chair sir
Really love bly manor much than hill House for the universe (and the second it's a really excellent serie) so I'm just totally recommend it to anyone love beautiful and poetic love story with little strange and supernatural environment
I was about to watch the new show, but then I saw your thumbnail. Thanks for warning me and saving my time. ;) To the people out there, watch "The Hauniting" from the 50s. Black and White but scary as hell.