you forgot the biggest missing thing from the book! in the book, everyone on earth is commenting about how they can only imagine what mark could be thinking about all alone on mars. It then immediately cuts to mark saying, " how can Aquaman control whales if he can only talk to fish?" best line in the whole thing, and they left it out of the movie!
+Daniel Allen The line actually did make it into one of the supplemental bits showing Hermes crew during the buildup to the mission (a lot of that stuff is pretty fantastic IMO). What I liked about the film is that Watney has a lot of lines that aren't in the book, but still sound very much like things that book-Watney would say. Like "It's been seven days since I ran out of ketchup."
You left out the best part. The Hermes crew deciding that if they mess up the supply run they'll all kill themselves except Johanssen so she gets to eat them and live longer to complete the mission.
Audiobook listeners wouldn't get that, except for those like me who baught both versions. :P And that scence was extremly creepy, I was disappointed to realise that it hadn't made it into the movie.
Actually, the book _originally_ ended with a little scene where some kid walks up to him on the street and asks him if he'd ever go back if they'd let him, and he answers something like "Are you out of your fucking mind?" :P
It was originally published on the web, remember? I read it there. They cut this from the final published book. web.archive.org/web/20121010202516/www.galactanet.com/martian/martian26.html Very last paragraph ;) (and yes, it is possible to retrieve the complete original manuscript off that site, lol)
Here's a little bonus for you then... if you go to the remains of the original place where The Martian was published, you'll see it still contains the thing that originally inspired the story; the program Andy Weir wrote to calculate space trajectories on the constant-acceleration ion engine, and the files for the actual trajectories used in the book :) www.galactanet.com/martian/
Watney at the end in the capsule ISN'T shivering in fear, but crying in elation because he can FINALLY experience the emotional relief of facing the end of his gruesome endurance test on Mars. Before that he couldn't let himself go emotionally as he had to keep it together or else risk death. But, at the end when salvation is finally within reach the emotion he's had bottled up until then finally begins to leak out. Or, in other words, he really is human.
The dropping of Watney accidentally destroying Pathfinder really bugged the shit out of me. If he never loses communication with NASA, there's nothing stopping them from giving him permission to board the Ares 4 MAV. Which means he's not technically a space pirate. But they still have him talk about being a space pirate,and even claims that NASA still can't give him permission. He even tells NASA to call him a space pirate and Vincent figures out his reasoning. Its really weird to drop such a huge plot point but keep one tiny bit of it that makes no sense on its own.
The movie sort of covered this. In the book, Watney can only take the middle section of the Pathfinder lander, leaving the 'wings' at the landing site, one of which has the ground rod. I believe this fact was specifically mentioned in the book. In the movie, the rovers have cranes on them, so he grabs the whole pathfinder lander. This would include the ground rod, so there would be no shorting of circuits. A relatively minor detail, but one that has pretty significant implications for parts of the story when you think about it.
+The True Fizz Since you probably won't make it to the end of the movie while watching it again let me tell you about it. ***Spoiler*** So he's retired from Nasa and is now teaching bratty kids how to golf. One kid lines up his club against the golf ball.... a few trial swings.... Wham the kid hits the golf ball. It doesn't go straight but takes a curve through the air hitting Sean Bean in the head thereby killing him.
@@l.tc.5032 because we're used to Sean Bean killed off in roles, whether by satellites, swords or arrows. Nobody would watch Ned Stark work for NASA lol
What I found most perplexing was that in the book, the scene of the first supply shot exploding was described in a VERY cinematic way. I fully expected that scene to be show in detail, with the stuff sliding around and the bolts breaking. Instead, it was just a bang in the distance.
You missed the part in the book, right after he safely enters the Hermes, where he says something like, "If this was a movie, the whole crew would be running in to greet me, but that doesn't happen because blah-blah-blah." In the movie, they do exactly the thing that the book says they didn't do (and they wouldn't have -- they've got to perfectly pull off a slingshot orbit to get back home or they all die -- that's a really high priority). Also, the whole Iron Man maneuver creates a problem because Watney has broken ribs. Remember, in space, no one can hear you scream (like a little girl). :)
+Harry Crome He's definitely the real Casey, but the big question now is whether or not you're the real Harry Crome! Also, we don't think you actually have a dinosaur body!
ben swolo in the book, there was a plan for Johanssen to survive even if the supply probe failed. The others were doomed, so they would all commit suicide and then she would live off of the remaining rations and later by cannibalising her crew mates. She was chosen to survive because she was the youngest and also the smallest meaning she could survive on fewer calories. Luckily for everyone involved, the supply probe was successful.
Dude! CineFix, The Martian was nominated for SEVEN! SEVEN! SEVEN ACADEMY AWARDS!!!!!!!!!!! (1.) Best Picture (2.) Best Actor (3.) Best Sound Editing (4.) Best Sound Mixing (5.) Best Adapted Screenplay (6.) Best Production Design (7.) Best Visual Effects
Tell me about it. He keeps hanging around the office saying "arr when will ye be puttin me back on the airrr?" We tell him "no one likes you, Cosmo! Beat it!" But still, he lingers.
Did i miss that part in this video about the altruistic motives of the CNSA in the movie versus the realistic motives of the CNSA in the book? Seems like something that really shouldn't be glossed over since it's a realism versus pandering type of difference.
But that's like, everything. The characters are too different, the story, the context, the location, the deaths, the thoughts. Only the main anthagonist is close to the book, (and no even in the looks). BTW i like both the movie and the book, i'm no hating on them, im' just saying they are way too different.
I might just have misinterpreted it big I thought he was crying in the spaceship at the end because he heard the people talking in his ear and that was the first time in years that he had heard another persons voice... I could be wrong though
Savannah Kensinger probably a combination. it was a moment of simultaneous relief and fear. he could die while being rescued after surviving all that time. enough to make anyone emotional
you forgot to mention in the movie the aborted about halfway through the 31 day mission on sol 18 while in the book they aborted before a week had passed on sol 6.
My favorite thing was that in the book Mark describes his coming back aboard the Hermes. He says that "If this were a movie, the entire crew would have been there to greet me in the airlock" and that was exactly what happened in the movie.
cannibalism!?! That was a pretty great a dark moment from the book that I was a little sad not to see in the movie! I understand why; but still I liked it.
This movie is one of the best adaptations I've ever seen. It actually improved a few things from the book, such as having commander Lewis going on outer space to save Watney. It was great because it totally fits her character and made for a much more emotional scene than the original. Also loved the epilogue, something I greatly missed in the book.
Her going out to space makes zero sense though. And the fact that they took that Superman joke seriously and actually included it in the movie is just stupid.
Evelina999 It makes perfect sense. She was already disobeying Nasa's orders in the first place. That stunt was risky as fuck, it makes sense she would put herself on the line instead of sending Beck since she didn't want to "lose another man on space" (her words, more or less). The Iron Man thing was silly, I agree. That would never work.
CidGuerreiro1234 That's why he was tied to a cord. He wanted to just fly out there without it because there was a chance that he couldn't reach Mark, but she forbade it because she didn't want to lose another man in space. Beck wasn't in much danger with the chord attached and losing a captain is much worse than an ,,outer space guy".
Evelina999 Beck had the least amount of character development in the book (and the movie, for that matter). Other than being in a relationship with Johansen he was kinda just there. I think Andy Weir wanted to give him some of the spotlight before the end of the book, but the scene with Lewis was much, much better. I couldn't help but to think this is how it should've been in the book (which I loved anyway).
Evelina999 But Beck was the eva specialist, the bestman to do the job not Lewis. So, a good commander that want to suceed a mission, must send the best to the job and That is beck not her,going her increases the risks of failure so she was not acting with head.
The change to the ending almost ruined the whole movie for me. They spend the entire film setting up Beck as The Best EVA Guy Ever - they actually make a point of it - and then you can almost see the moment the producers went "Oh wait, Jessica Chastain's a bigger star" and went for the "let's throw logic out the window" bit instead. Frustrating.
We read this way before the movie and it's quite true, they did an exceptional job with both the screenplay and the casting. I remember reading this thinking, quite literally, that it would make a great movie and I even pictured no one other than Matt Damon in the role. If you read the book, you can clearly see there was no one else who could have pulled this off so perfectly!
Were they intentionally trying to annoying the shit out of us with that space pirate? Because it was fucking annoying. And intentional. And really annoying. And really intentional. They beat you over the head with it that many times. (really)
I thought the biggest omission was the inner monologue. I just finished the book last night and then rewatched the movie today for the first time since the theatrical release. The book explains - in great detail - why the Hab airlock blew but the movie doesn't get into that. The book explains in great detail Watney's calculations on how much water he'll need, how much oxygen he'll need, all the technical details of how he manages his resources. And of course, the big problem he faces when he flips his rover on his way to the Ares 4 MAV site. None of these make the movie 'worse' because this is a mainstream movie and pacing matters. But it could have done without Donald Glover's goofy explanation of how a gravity assist works. Also, the ending in the book is far more poignant, emphasizing human capacity to work together and help each other. Far more resonant than the scene we got with Watney's new gig as an instructor. All in all a good movie but a great book.
The joke in the book was that if a movie about Watney was ever made, the sequence would be more epic, where he'd been ordered not to do the Iron Man. In a bit of meta humor, the movie version had him doing Iron Man.
I felt the same way. Everything else felt measured and disciplined. That felt unrealistic and completely like fantasy. Sometimes I fast forward through that part on rewatches.
one other thing they left out was that besides being the botanist, Watney was also the engineer. doubling up on skills would help with a small crew. all they would have had to do was change one line and one prop and it would have helped to explain how he knew how to build all the things he built to survive.
Another huge difference to me that I'm surprised you guys didn't mention, was how in the book Mark makes frequent references to how short the lifespans of the environment suits are, and his trying to conserve them and their parts becomes one of the plot's major challenges. This facet isn't even touched upon in the movie.
Wooooow wait up! You forgot the most important difference!! Matt Damon is NOT a SPACE PIRATE! I should elaborate I suppose.. It is the result of the difference between the book and movie stated around 4:30 . The difference in the communications being short out in the book and not the movie. Consequently, Watney goes on, without communicating with NASA, to appropriate NASA vehicles intended for other missions. He has no explicit permission from NASA to do so, which makes it that Watney is hijacking it. This is wat makes Watney a space pirate. Since Matt Damon in the movie version keeps in contact with NASA and they basically tell him what to do he is no space pirate. Sorry Matt, you're no space pirate, only book Mark is.
My only problem while watching only were the fact that the EVA suits were different, less scifi and with the faceshields that covered face, that's why Wheatnny needed to use piece of paper on the photo.
The biggest issue with the book is that because it is mostly from the perspective of Marc Watney, who always maintains a light, positive, attitude towards his situation, it's hard to get a sense of the overwhelming tension. The book feels to easy, when the circumstances certainly aren't.
+Bahmanis The Duck wasn't that represented in the movie by him literally blowing himself to the other side of the hab? It's been a while since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken
+preid122o They do but, the movie doesn't explain why he's doing that in the first place. There's also no "I'm fucked, turned the HAB into a bomb and I'm going to die" moment when he realizes his mistake which I wish was in the movie in some capacity.
year old i know, but one thing you have to remember about the movie and book, is that the movie is more of, giving us what he's feeling at the moment, rather than reflecting
One difference you neglected to mention is when the Hab blew up. Watney went through this whole process of sealing the air lock he was in so he could take his helmet off to repair the suit by literally cutting the suits arm off, to glue it over the hole. Then gluing the hole where his arm was. Then the part where he spent the night literally throwing himself against the side of the air lock to role it to the Hab in order to get close enough to get out, get a new suit, and rush to a Rover before he ran out of air.
my favorite even in the book was when he nearly blew up the hab with the whole 70% hydrogen incedent. im just amazed the nice OPEN FLAME on his (admitidly source of said problem originaly) hydrogen burner didnt result in the described mushroom cloud where his hab used to be scenario. still like how he still managed to blow himself up a little STILL even after draining the O2 to burn off the hydrogen safely. the book was so much better...
I'm surprised you left out one of the creepiest part of the book: the one in which Johanssen, the Ares tech specialist, speaks with her father via comm just before the chinese-assisted resupply mission, and she tells him that she's been chosen as the designated survivor in case the resupply mission fails and they can't bring supplies on board, and then she adds that, in that case, she would have to eat her crewmates corpses! ...no such scene in the movie...
I liked the book and the movie. I was surprised when I saw the movie after reading the book that the movie did such a good job of recreating the book. Thanks for not screwing it up Ridley Scott!
There are a ton of books I'd like you guys to do. Matilda Scott Pilgrim Captain America: The Winter Soldier The Exorcist Kingsman Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Holes Christine I know it's a lot but it'd be cool to see you guys cover these
I'm still annoyed I didn't get to see film Mark listen to Stayin Alive, also I really wanted Rocket Man and Life on Mars to be included on the soundtrack, but I can settle for Starman I guess :L I actually thought film Mark was angrier than book mark, he got really pissed when he found out his crew didn't know he was still alive where as in the book he was mildly annoyed and then instead of saying such a bad word that they didn't even show it in the film, he typed "look! Boobies! (.)(.)"
This was a great movie and a fantastic adaptation. The movie obviously wasn't as good as the book just because of runtime restrictions of the medium, but it was as good as it realistically could have been and smartly kept the things that played more into the strengths of a visual medium. Shame that they cut the aquaman line though. There isn't really a good place to fit that kind of thing in in a movie, but it was great.
Fun fact: Shiver me timbers was actually a reference to battle damage. When a cannonball hit the side of the ship, it'd send shrapnel, obviously mostly composed of gnarly pieces of wood into the area below decks, maiming or killing anyone in the vicinity. These bits of wood shrapnel were called shivers.
The movie didn't have him start the garden soil in the beds. Also he had two garden tents. They cut to much out for his trip to Aires 4. I just feel like they could of added some more from the book to make the movie better.
good episode but the pirate thing was really annoying. plus he wasn't shivering in fear; he was overcome with emotion when he heard the crew's voices (the first voices he'd heard in a long time) and was struggling to hold back years
Dart Mada it was most likely both. he was hearing their voices for what could've been the first and last time if anything bad happened. that's a lot to handle. imagine the thought of dying after all your hard work to keep yourself alive up to one make or break moment
Tremere I mean, I think Cinefix pretty clearly registered some level of discomfort in their tone. However, it’s worth noting the the reason whitewashing is considered a problem isn’t because switching a character’s ethnicity is inherently bad, but rather that doing so occasionally compromises the story and is rightfully seen as pandering to a white audience. It’s the reasoning behind the switch that matters, and in this case it’s hard to know if it was “right man for the job” or “any brown guy will do”.
Y'all should do The Book Thief because there is a scene that really pissed me off near the end with Rudy, however the last scene between Max and Liesl was incredibly emotional to watch. Reading it was one thing, but to actually see it was amazing, super beautiful.
I really appreciated the analytical approach to this comparison. It was really detailed and thorough. As a writer and a lover of analysis, this kind of stuff fascinates me. Thank you, good job!!
here is some sugestions for the the next WTD videos: The bone colector(1999), Red dragon(1984), Who goes there?(the thing 1982) I think these will be nice XD
Credit to Astronaut and electrical engineer Owen Garriott (who you cast as your 'space pirate' )who set a record in 1973 for spending 60 days in space aboard Skylab.
Here are my suggestions for doing future book vs film videos:"The Lord of the Rings" Book vs Peter Jackson's Film Trilogy"The Hobbit" Book and "The Lord of the Rings" Book's Appendices vs Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" Film Trilogy"The Four Feathers" Book vs the 2002 Film Adaptation-Staring Heath Ledger Homer's "The Iliad" Poem vs Wolfgang Petersen's "Troy" Film"Unbroken" Book vs Angelina Jolie's Film"The Monuments Men" Book vs George Clooney's FilmAnita Diamant's "The Red Tent" Book vs the 2014 TV Movie-Staring Rebecca FergusonPhilippa Gregory's "The White Queen", "The Red Queen", and "The Kingmaker's Daughter" Books vs "The White Queen" TV Mini Series-Which also stars Rebecca Ferguson "The Pillars of the Earth" Book vs the 2010 TV Mini Series-Staring Eddie Redmayne"World Without End" Book vs the 2012 TV Mini Series-Staring Charlotte Riley"The Lion, The Which, and the Wardrobe" Book vs Andrew Adamson's Film
you guys are the best!!!!!!!!!! keep the great work up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! plz do for top ten: 1) music scores 2) comedy characters 3) sequels 4) franchises 5) cameos 6) musicals
The book originally had an epilogue that was later cut. I can do without either, but I prefer the books to the movies, ultimately, though they both work. The books kind of encompases the movies, perhaps why. It's out of the PDFs/Ebooks now, but it's the version I read (so the video really confused me for a minute!). I've attached it below. "The entire extra ending: Watney finished his two slices of pizza and a coke. He had another half-hour to kill before going back to Johnson Space Center. Leaving the pizzeria, he sat on a public bench just outside. Next week would be busy. He would be meeting the Ares-6 Engineer. He had read her file, but had never met her in person. He wouldn't get much time to relax after that. The following six weeks would be filled with constant training as he tried to impart as much knowledge as he could. But that was something to worry about later. Right now, he took a deep breath of the fresh air and watched the people go by. “Hey, I know you!” Came a voice from behind. A young boy had strayed from his mother. “You're Mark Watney!” “Sweetie,” the boy's mom said, embarrassed. “Don't bother people like that.” “It's ok,” Watney shrugged. “You went to Mars!” The boy said, his eyes wide with awe. “Sure did,” Watney said. “Almost didn't make it back.” “I know!” Said the boy. “That was awesome!” “Sweetie!” The mom scolded. “That's rude.” “So Mr. Watney,” the boy said, “If you could go to Mars again, like, if there was another mission and they wanted you to go, would you go?” Watney scowled at him. “You out of your fucking mind?” “Ok time to go,” the mom said, quickly herding the boy away. They receded in to the crowded sidewalk. Watney snorted in their direction. Then he closed his eyes and felt the sun on his face. It was a nice, boring afternoon."
I was looking forward to watching this, and finally saw it a few days ago. The overall movie was kinda just OK but the music was so irritating. One good thing was the special effects were used effectively and never really took you out of the story... Whether it should win the Oscar all depends on what it is up against, I guess...
Seven Oscars!!!! I saw this movie twice in theaters, and several times on Blu Ray. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and one of my favorites of all time.
you forgot the biggest missing thing from the book! in the book, everyone on earth is commenting about how they can only imagine what mark could be thinking about all alone on mars. It then immediately cuts to mark saying, " how can Aquaman control whales if he can only talk to fish?" best line in the whole thing, and they left it out of the movie!
+Daniel Allen The line actually did make it into one of the supplemental bits showing Hermes crew during the buildup to the mission (a lot of that stuff is pretty fantastic IMO). What I liked about the film is that Watney has a lot of lines that aren't in the book, but still sound very much like things that book-Watney would say. Like "It's been seven days since I ran out of ketchup."
I laughed for a solid minute reading that passage, Mark Watney is hilarious
@Katie In there, i've literally died for my entire train way home. Those people around musted thing I had serious problems xd
"I am definitely gonna die out here...if I have to listen to any more god-awful disco music!"
Daniel Allen There’s a bonus feature on the DVD called “The Right Stuff” and Mark Watney says that.
You left out the best part. The Hermes crew deciding that if they mess up the supply run they'll all kill themselves except Johanssen so she gets to eat them and live longer to complete the mission.
Also, "LOOK! A pair of boobs -->(. Y .)" (Book readers will get it)
Right! And also in the book Watney crushed the glass in his helmet when the airlock exploded and had to cover it up with his own suit 😂😂
Audiobook listeners wouldn't get that, except for those like me who baught both versions. :P
And that scence was extremly creepy, I was disappointed to realise that it hadn't made it into the movie.
Omg yeah! "c'mon, I thought you liked Mexican!"
CheesyTits . that had me laughing out loud. that is exactly what a team mate would Ask!
Actually, the book _originally_ ended with a little scene where some kid walks up to him on the street and asks him if he'd ever go back if they'd let him, and he answers something like "Are you out of your fucking mind?" :P
It was originally published on the web, remember? I read it there. They cut this from the final published book.
web.archive.org/web/20121010202516/www.galactanet.com/martian/martian26.html
Very last paragraph ;)
(and yes, it is possible to retrieve the complete original manuscript off that site, lol)
Here's a little bonus for you then... if you go to the remains of the original place where The Martian was published, you'll see it still contains the thing that originally inspired the story; the program Andy Weir wrote to calculate space trajectories on the constant-acceleration ion engine, and the files for the actual trajectories used in the book :)
www.galactanet.com/martian/
Watney at the end in the capsule ISN'T shivering in fear, but crying in elation because he can FINALLY experience the emotional relief of facing the end of his gruesome endurance test on Mars. Before that he couldn't let himself go emotionally as he had to keep it together or else risk death. But, at the end when salvation is finally within reach the emotion he's had bottled up until then finally begins to leak out. Or, in other words, he really is human.
Also broken ribs.
@@newwordblues3030 that is same in the movie, but in the book he actually acts like he has broken ribs. Movie is really a movie...
The dropping of Watney accidentally destroying Pathfinder really bugged the shit out of me. If he never loses communication with NASA, there's nothing stopping them from giving him permission to board the Ares 4 MAV. Which means he's not technically a space pirate. But they still have him talk about being a space pirate,and even claims that NASA still can't give him permission. He even tells NASA to call him a space pirate and Vincent figures out his reasoning. Its really weird to drop such a huge plot point but keep one tiny bit of it that makes no sense on its own.
I like that reasoning, and it made me laugh.
shhh it's a movie :p
If your only contribution to a conversation is to disregard the conversation as unimportant, feel free to not.
Yeah the adaptation was great except for this oversight. What you said x1000.
The movie sort of covered this.
In the book, Watney can only take the middle section of the Pathfinder lander, leaving the 'wings' at the landing site, one of which has the ground rod. I believe this fact was specifically mentioned in the book.
In the movie, the rovers have cranes on them, so he grabs the whole pathfinder lander. This would include the ground rod, so there would be no shorting of circuits.
A relatively minor detail, but one that has pretty significant implications for parts of the story when you think about it.
I could have done without the pirate thing, but nice work.
I agree with you. They have great content, but ruin their videos with this corny jokes that only annoy the viewer
+Aj Koorstra I almost turned it off cos of the pirates, but my affection for scifi kept me from doing so.
+Aj Koorstra I could have done with some more sense of humor in the comment section....
I like the space pirate thing. I mean, come on, it's space pirates, how is that not simultaneously awesome and hilarious?
I saw this film but think I must have fallen asleep before the end because I missed the bit when Sean Bean dies
+The True Fizz Since you probably won't make it to the end of the movie while watching it again let me tell you about it. ***Spoiler*** So he's retired from Nasa and is now teaching bratty kids how to golf. One kid lines up his club against the golf ball.... a few trial swings.... Wham the kid hits the golf ball. It doesn't go straight but takes a curve through the air hitting Sean Bean in the head thereby killing him.
The True Fizz he doesn't. I think bean may have purposefully picked a role where he doesn't.
@@l.tc.5032 because we're used to Sean Bean killed off in roles, whether by satellites, swords or arrows. Nobody would watch Ned Stark work for NASA lol
One does not simply fly to mars
@@Ancientreapers I thought he had a stroke...
...get it? (I'll show myself out.)
What I found most perplexing was that in the book, the scene of the first supply shot exploding was described in a VERY cinematic way. I fully expected that scene to be show in detail, with the stuff sliding around and the bolts breaking. Instead, it was just a bang in the distance.
However in the aftermath they describe it almost verbatim from the book in the movie.
I was expecting a couple seconds of close-up of liquifying protein cubes and all that. Same thing for the tear right before the airlock breach.
yeah, that pirate thing is quite annoying.
You missed the part in the book, right after he safely enters the Hermes, where he says something like, "If this was a movie, the whole crew would be running in to greet me, but that doesn't happen because blah-blah-blah." In the movie, they do exactly the thing that the book says they didn't do (and they wouldn't have -- they've got to perfectly pull off a slingshot orbit to get back home or they all die -- that's a really high priority). Also, the whole Iron Man maneuver creates a problem because Watney has broken ribs. Remember, in space, no one can hear you scream (like a little girl). :)
Great episode guys, but I fucking hate you for that damn space pirate right now.
Hahaha!
+Casey Redmon I'm pretty sure you're a fake casey redmon otherwise you'd have more subscribers😏
+Harry Crome not fake. Just unpopular 😉
+Casey Redmon alright then, upload a video talking about this conversation 😉😉😉
+Harry Crome He's definitely the real Casey, but the big question now is whether or not you're the real Harry Crome! Also, we don't think you actually have a dinosaur body!
They skipped the removal of the part where johannsen discussed having to potentially eating the rest of the crew
Austin Possinger what
ben swolo in the book, there was a plan for Johanssen to survive even if the supply probe failed. The others were doomed, so they would all commit suicide and then she would live off of the remaining rations and later by cannibalising her crew mates. She was chosen to survive because she was the youngest and also the smallest meaning she could survive on fewer calories. Luckily for everyone involved, the supply probe was successful.
Tove Kauppi holy shit that's dark
ben swolo yeah, no surprise that they didn’t include that in the pg13 movie.
@@tovekauppi1616 also because it's a contingency for something that didn't end up happening, so it was safe to cut for time.
Dude! CineFix, The Martian was nominated for SEVEN! SEVEN! SEVEN ACADEMY AWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!
(1.) Best Picture
(2.) Best Actor
(3.) Best Sound Editing
(4.) Best Sound Mixing
(5.) Best Adapted Screenplay
(6.) Best Production Design
(7.) Best Visual Effects
+Water Hazard You're right! Our bad.
The space pirate gag didn't work. Sorry
Tell me about it. He keeps hanging around the office saying "arr when will ye be puttin me back on the airrr?"
We tell him "no one likes you, Cosmo! Beat it!"
But still, he lingers.
+Casey Redmon The Space Pirate was awesome :)
Your "space pirate" is Owen Garriott - the father of Riichard Garriott, a founder of Origin Systems (and the creator of the 'Ultima' game series)
What's a paladin?
@Jerry C Needed $20 million to fly in space (to ISS) like his dad did (on Skylab).
I couldn't focus that much this episode with the space pirate gag in the way.
Did i miss that part in this video about the altruistic motives of the CNSA in the movie versus the realistic motives of the CNSA in the book? Seems like something that really shouldn't be glossed over since it's a realism versus pandering type of difference.
Pandaoniman Hey, the movie’s got to sell in China.
Apocalypse Now/Heart of Darkness, What's the Difference?.
yes!!!
But that's like, everything.
The characters are too different, the story, the context, the location, the deaths, the thoughts. Only the main anthagonist is close to the book, (and no even in the looks).
BTW i like both the movie and the book, i'm no hating on them, im' just saying they are way too different.
***** That's the idea.
+Ellijah De Leon The main difference is that Apocalypse Now is nice to watch and Heart of Darkness is pain to read. End this is from big fan of both
Even better, do the documentary Heart of Darkness and its connection to book versus the movie Apocalypse Now and the book
I might just have misinterpreted it big I thought he was crying in the spaceship at the end because he heard the people talking in his ear and that was the first time in years that he had heard another persons voice... I could be wrong though
Savannah Kensinger probably a combination. it was a moment of simultaneous relief and fear. he could die while being rescued after surviving all that time. enough to make anyone emotional
you forgot to mention in the movie the aborted about halfway through the 31 day mission on sol 18 while in the book they aborted before a week had passed on sol 6.
My favorite thing was that in the book Mark describes his coming back aboard the Hermes. He says that "If this were a movie, the entire crew would have been there to greet me in the airlock" and that was exactly what happened in the movie.
How come no one nominated the potatoes? They served a great purpose in the movie
+Viet Lee Those potatoes did a better performance than Dicaprio
same with that ketchup..rest his soul
cannibalism!?! That was a pretty great a dark moment from the book that I was a little sad not to see in the movie! I understand why; but still I liked it.
How about a WTD of _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?_ and _Blade Runner_?
Yes
yes
Yes
Yes yes yes yes
Do it!
This movie is one of the best adaptations I've ever seen. It actually improved a few things from the book, such as having commander Lewis going on outer space to save Watney. It was great because it totally fits her character and made for a much more emotional scene than the original. Also loved the epilogue, something I greatly missed in the book.
Her going out to space makes zero sense though. And the fact that they took that Superman joke seriously and actually included it in the movie is just stupid.
Evelina999 It makes perfect sense. She was already disobeying Nasa's orders in the first place. That stunt was risky as fuck, it makes sense she would put herself on the line instead of sending Beck since she didn't want to "lose another man on space" (her words, more or less).
The Iron Man thing was silly, I agree. That would never work.
CidGuerreiro1234 That's why he was tied to a cord. He wanted to just fly out there without it because there was a chance that he couldn't reach Mark, but she forbade it because she didn't want to lose another man in space. Beck wasn't in much danger with the chord attached and losing a captain is much worse than an ,,outer space guy".
Evelina999 Beck had the least amount of character development in the book (and the movie, for that matter). Other than being in a relationship with Johansen he was kinda just there. I think Andy Weir wanted to give him some of the spotlight before the end of the book, but the scene with Lewis was much, much better. I couldn't help but to think this is how it should've been in the book (which I loved anyway).
Evelina999 But Beck was the eva specialist, the bestman to do the job not Lewis. So, a good commander that want to suceed a mission, must send the best to the job and That is beck not her,going her increases the risks of failure so she was not acting with head.
That Space Pirate bit was so annoying... Anyone else roll their eyes and groan around the 6th time?
Mike Galonzka yep lol
Nope. Not a bit.
Okay, but am I the only one who that the little "Woo!" \(•-•)/ he did after establishing communication was frackin adorable.
The change to the ending almost ruined the whole movie for me. They spend the entire film setting up Beck as The Best EVA Guy Ever - they actually make a point of it - and then you can almost see the moment the producers went "Oh wait, Jessica Chastain's a bigger star" and went for the "let's throw logic out the window" bit instead. Frustrating.
Both the book and The movie were great
This is probably one of my favorite Book & Movie duo!!
Thank You Cinefix!!
I thank you for thanking Cinefix.
+Film News Report thank you for thinking Deebo Molina for thanking Cinefix
please do a What's the Difference between the movie Edge of Tomorrow and the book that inspired it called All You Need is Kill.
Yes!
+GamePhysics either title, it was still based on the Japanese book All You Need is Kill by Hiroshi Sakurazaka
Woody10111 Yupp. Wasn't trying to deny that.
+GamePhysics ok
Other than a basic premise, they are totally different, so I don't see a point.
the space pirate thing detracted from the experience. It was a stupid idea and made me enjoy the video less
Aidan McManus it was a way to make t more interesting
We read this way before the movie and it's quite true, they did an exceptional job with both the screenplay and the casting. I remember reading this thinking, quite literally, that it would make a great movie and I even pictured no one other than Matt Damon in the role. If you read the book, you can clearly see there was no one else who could have pulled this off so perfectly!
Were they intentionally trying to annoying the shit out of us with that space pirate? Because it was fucking annoying. And intentional. And really annoying. And really intentional. They beat you over the head with it that many times.
(really)
Do Kingsman: the secret service, what's the difference
Agreed
+Dominick Garcez OH YES! i have been waiting for that.
I thought the biggest omission was the inner monologue. I just finished the book last night and then rewatched the movie today for the first time since the theatrical release. The book explains - in great detail - why the Hab airlock blew but the movie doesn't get into that. The book explains in great detail Watney's calculations on how much water he'll need, how much oxygen he'll need, all the technical details of how he manages his resources. And of course, the big problem he faces when he flips his rover on his way to the Ares 4 MAV site. None of these make the movie 'worse' because this is a mainstream movie and pacing matters. But it could have done without Donald Glover's goofy explanation of how a gravity assist works. Also, the ending in the book is far more poignant, emphasizing human capacity to work together and help each other. Far more resonant than the scene we got with Watney's new gig as an instructor. All in all a good movie but a great book.
That's the one thing I didn't buy about the movie - the Iron Man moment. It seemed so out-of-place with everything else.
In the book it was just a joke. They rescued him more realistically through strategic timing.
darksideofevil13 in the book it was a stepping stone. They used it as an idea and blew the VAL
The joke in the book was that if a movie about Watney was ever made, the sequence would be more epic, where he'd been ordered not to do the Iron Man. In a bit of meta humor, the movie version had him doing Iron Man.
I was better than the Super Man moment in The Last Jedi
I felt the same way. Everything else felt measured and disciplined. That felt unrealistic and completely like fantasy. Sometimes I fast forward through that part on rewatches.
one other thing they left out was that besides being the botanist, Watney was also the engineer. doubling up on skills would help with a small crew. all they would have had to do was change one line and one prop and it would have helped to explain how he knew how to build all the things he built to survive.
Do Scott Pilgrim - What's the difference? Please!!!
+Cole Bowser (TrueCooper) Threshold is my jam!
+Richard At The Movies I came here just to comment that! MAKE IT SO CINEFIX!
+Cole Bowser (TrueCooper) Personally Volumes 3 and 6 are my favorites. Which is your favorite Volume?
yes, do this
Another huge difference to me that I'm surprised you guys didn't mention, was how in the book Mark makes frequent references to how short the lifespans of the environment suits are, and his trying to conserve them and their parts becomes one of the plot's major challenges. This facet isn't even touched upon in the movie.
yeah that pirate shit got annoying really quick
Do the Harry Potter books/movies!
Yes, I realize OOTP is going to be a long video, but I'd still like to see it.
Imagine how long a Goblet of Fire comparison would have to be! :P
That's a good idea. It'd be a whole season alone, but totally worth it.
+Ike of Pyke "HARRY POTTER!!!!"
I love these. Keep doing this series. They are great on breaks.
Wooooow wait up! You forgot the most important difference!! Matt Damon is NOT a SPACE PIRATE!
I should elaborate I suppose.. It is the result of the difference between the book and movie stated around 4:30 . The difference in the communications being short out in the book and not the movie. Consequently, Watney goes on, without communicating with NASA, to appropriate NASA vehicles intended for other missions. He has no explicit permission from NASA to do so, which makes it that Watney is hijacking it. This is wat makes Watney a space pirate.
Since Matt Damon in the movie version keeps in contact with NASA and they basically tell him what to do he is no space pirate.
Sorry Matt, you're no space pirate, only book Mark is.
Such a great book, and I was so happy how perfectly they managed to turn it into a film!
My only problem while watching only were the fact that the EVA suits were different, less scifi and with the faceshields that covered face, that's why Wheatnny needed to use piece of paper on the photo.
How about doing a WTD for The Mask?
I thought Watney was shaking and crying from overwelming feeling of relief and joy in that scene towards the ending. DAE think that?
Please! Do the What’s The Difference? of Ender's Game!!
The biggest issue with the book is that because it is mostly from the perspective of Marc Watney, who always maintains a light, positive, attitude towards his situation, it's hard to get a sense of the overwhelming tension. The book feels to easy, when the circumstances certainly aren't.
You guys forgot to mention that in the book, Mark almost blows up the HAB by filling it with hydrogen when he was making water
+Bahmanis The Duck wasn't that represented in the movie by him literally blowing himself to the other side of the hab? It's been a while since I've seen the film so I may be mistaken
+preid122o possibly I haven't seen the film in a while either
+preid122o They do but, the movie doesn't explain why he's doing that in the first place. There's also no "I'm fucked, turned the HAB into a bomb and I'm going to die" moment when he realizes his mistake which I wish was in the movie in some capacity.
Does it in the movie also
year old i know, but one thing you have to remember about the movie and book, is that the movie is more of, giving us what he's feeling at the moment, rather than reflecting
One difference you neglected to mention is when the Hab blew up. Watney went through this whole process of sealing the air lock he was in so he could take his helmet off to repair the suit by literally cutting the suits arm off, to glue it over the hole. Then gluing the hole where his arm was. Then the part where he spent the night literally throwing himself against the side of the air lock to role it to the Hab in order to get close enough to get out, get a new suit, and rush to a Rover before he ran out of air.
Holy crap the space pirate guy is irritating
Owen Garriott at 2:02 he is the father of Richard Garriott of Origin Systems and Ultima series!!!
my favorite even in the book was when he nearly blew up the hab with the whole 70% hydrogen incedent. im just amazed the nice OPEN FLAME on his (admitidly source of said problem originaly) hydrogen burner didnt result in the described mushroom cloud where his hab used to be scenario. still like how he still managed to blow himself up a little STILL even after draining the O2 to burn off the hydrogen safely. the book was so much better...
I'm surprised you left out one of the creepiest part of the book: the one in which Johanssen, the Ares tech specialist, speaks with her father via comm just before the chinese-assisted resupply mission, and she tells him that she's been chosen as the designated survivor in case the resupply mission fails and they can't bring supplies on board, and then she adds that, in that case, she would have to eat her crewmates corpses!
...no such scene in the movie...
Please doone of these on clockwork orange!
I liked the book and the movie. I was surprised when I saw the movie after reading the book that the movie did such a good job of recreating the book. Thanks for not screwing it up Ridley Scott!
what about game of thrones what's the difference
I watched this movie the day before David Bowie died. I cried.
I loved the movie. Now I must read the book. Must!
You really must; it's hilarious. The audiobook is also really really really good if you're into audiobooks. Very well narrated.
The book is hundreds of times better. The movie is terrible by comparison.
same here :)
You would not believe this... At 7:55 When the voice says "Oxygen level 10%" my I pad litterally gave me the 10% low battery warning
Capt. Cosmos would make a good comic book. if only i knew someone who made those..... hmmmmmm
+Skybound Think....think....hmmm
he forgot the pop tent that he turns into a room in the book !
do what's the difference of A Clockwork Orange
+Rejector71 wow , i would like to see that..would be interesting.
There are a ton of books I'd like you guys to do.
Matilda
Scott Pilgrim
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
The Exorcist
Kingsman
Batman: The Dark Knight Returns
Holes
Christine
I know it's a lot but it'd be cool to see you guys cover these
I'm still annoyed I didn't get to see film Mark listen to Stayin Alive, also I really wanted Rocket Man and Life on Mars to be included on the soundtrack, but I can settle for Starman I guess :L
I actually thought film Mark was angrier than book mark, he got really pissed when he found out his crew didn't know he was still alive where as in the book he was mildly annoyed and then instead of saying such a bad word that they didn't even show it in the film, he typed "look! Boobies! (.)(.)"
*(.Y.) :L
I love that you used Owen Garriott for the space pirate, seeing as his history of prank-playing in space.
Never do that pirate shit again.
This was a great movie and a fantastic adaptation. The movie obviously wasn't as good as the book just because of runtime restrictions of the medium, but it was as good as it realistically could have been and smartly kept the things that played more into the strengths of a visual medium.
Shame that they cut the aquaman line though. There isn't really a good place to fit that kind of thing in in a movie, but it was great.
conan book vs conan film vs conan remake
The barbarian?
yes
+John Werner Nah O'brien
Nah Edogawa
+Thingsandstuff the Conan O'brien remake sucked
Gosh this is such a great video The Martian book and movie were both very similar and Ridley Scott did a great job of staying faithful to the book
that space pirate tho so boring -and stupidly annoying-
I would have gladly watched a 3 1/2 hour adaptation.
Lay off the humor attempts! It's really bad!
Fun fact: Shiver me timbers was actually a reference to battle damage. When a cannonball hit the side of the ship, it'd send shrapnel, obviously mostly composed of gnarly pieces of wood into the area below decks, maiming or killing anyone in the vicinity. These bits of wood shrapnel were called shivers.
My vote goes to Jurassic Park for best adaptation ;-)
what?
+Alain Kouchica
what do you mean what?
+D-man the captain do you mean jurassic world?
hes not talking bout movies this year
hes talking bout all moives
+D-man the captain ah my apologies
The movie didn't have him start the garden soil in the beds. Also he had two garden tents. They cut to much out for his trip to Aires 4. I just feel like they could of added some more from the book to make the movie better.
The Captain needs to come back sometime
The space pirate wasn't nearly as annoying as it could have been, it was actually kinda funny. Great job.
good episode but the pirate thing was really annoying. plus he wasn't shivering in fear; he was overcome with emotion when he heard the crew's voices (the first voices he'd heard in a long time) and was struggling to hold back years
Dart Mada it was most likely both. he was hearing their voices for what could've been the first and last time if anything bad happened. that's a lot to handle. imagine the thought of dying after all your hard work to keep yourself alive up to one make or break moment
This has to be my favorite episode!! Loved the pirate talk!!
Two hyphenated words that need to be said that weren't in the movie: Pirate-Ninjas
Howl's Moving Castle book vs movie would be a fun one :D
1:25
Character changed from any ethnicity/race to white: UGH WHITEWASHING!!!
Character changed from Hindu to black: "ethnically flexible :)"
?
Tremere I mean, I think Cinefix pretty clearly registered some level of discomfort in their tone. However, it’s worth noting the the reason whitewashing is considered a problem isn’t because switching a character’s ethnicity is inherently bad, but rather that doing so occasionally compromises the story and is rightfully seen as pandering to a white audience. It’s the reasoning behind the switch that matters, and in this case it’s hard to know if it was “right man for the job” or “any brown guy will do”.
Hindu ain't an ethnicity
Y'all should do The Book Thief because there is a scene that really pissed me off near the end with Rudy, however the last scene between Max and Liesl was incredibly emotional to watch. Reading it was one thing, but to actually see it was amazing, super beautiful.
I love your youtube but keep talking in that pirate accent and you will lose MANY subscribers. ;-)
I really appreciated the analytical approach to this comparison. It was really detailed and thorough. As a writer and a lover of analysis, this kind of stuff fascinates me. Thank you, good job!!
this series is one of my favorite on RUclips. can we get the differences in trainspotting next please!?
This video was well done. Good job pointing out the discrepancies from the book/movie and what were the same.
here is some sugestions for the the next WTD videos: The bone colector(1999), Red dragon(1984), Who goes there?(the thing 1982) I think these will be nice XD
Credit to Astronaut and electrical engineer Owen Garriott (who you cast as your 'space pirate' )who set a record in 1973 for spending 60 days in space aboard Skylab.
Here are my suggestions for doing future book vs film videos:"The Lord of the Rings" Book vs Peter Jackson's Film Trilogy"The Hobbit" Book and "The Lord of the Rings" Book's Appendices vs Peter Jackson's "The Hobbit" Film Trilogy"The Four Feathers" Book vs the 2002 Film Adaptation-Staring Heath Ledger Homer's "The Iliad" Poem vs Wolfgang Petersen's "Troy" Film"Unbroken" Book vs Angelina Jolie's Film"The Monuments Men" Book vs George Clooney's FilmAnita Diamant's "The Red Tent" Book vs the 2014 TV Movie-Staring Rebecca FergusonPhilippa Gregory's "The White Queen", "The Red Queen", and "The Kingmaker's Daughter" Books vs "The White Queen" TV Mini Series-Which also stars Rebecca Ferguson "The Pillars of the Earth" Book vs the 2010 TV Mini Series-Staring Eddie Redmayne"World Without End" Book vs the 2012 TV Mini Series-Staring Charlotte Riley"The Lion, The Which, and the Wardrobe" Book vs Andrew Adamson's Film
you guys are the best!!!!!!!!!! keep the great work up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
plz do for top ten:
1) music scores
2) comedy characters
3) sequels
4) franchises
5) cameos
6) musicals
a clockwork orange? maybe total recall... speaking which the running man (I love the book and movie)?
The book originally had an epilogue that was later cut. I can do without either, but I prefer the books to the movies, ultimately, though they both work. The books kind of encompases the movies, perhaps why. It's out of the PDFs/Ebooks now, but it's the version I read (so the video really confused me for a minute!). I've attached it below.
"The entire extra ending:
Watney finished his two slices of pizza and a coke. He had another half-hour to kill before going back to Johnson Space Center. Leaving the pizzeria, he sat on a public bench just outside. Next week would be busy. He would be meeting the Ares-6 Engineer. He had read her file, but had never met her in person. He wouldn't get much time to relax after that. The following six weeks would be filled with constant training as he tried to impart as much knowledge as he could. But that was something to worry about later. Right now, he took a deep breath of the fresh air and watched the people go by. “Hey, I know you!” Came a voice from behind. A young boy had strayed from his mother. “You're Mark Watney!” “Sweetie,” the boy's mom said, embarrassed. “Don't bother people like that.” “It's ok,” Watney shrugged. “You went to Mars!” The boy said, his eyes wide with awe. “Sure did,” Watney said. “Almost didn't make it back.” “I know!” Said the boy. “That was awesome!” “Sweetie!” The mom scolded. “That's rude.” “So Mr. Watney,” the boy said, “If you could go to Mars again, like, if there was another mission and they wanted you to go, would you go?” Watney scowled at him. “You out of your fucking mind?” “Ok time to go,” the mom said, quickly herding the boy away. They receded in to the crowded sidewalk. Watney snorted in their direction. Then he closed his eyes and felt the sun on his face. It was a nice, boring afternoon."
I want more Space Pirate Cosmos. Maybe a one-man, monologue-y podcast. Bi-weekly, in the "twice a week" sense of the word.
the space pirate thing is REALLY UNFUNNY but great work!!
I was looking forward to watching this, and finally saw it a few days ago. The overall movie was kinda just OK but the music was so irritating. One good thing was the special effects were used effectively and never really took you out of the story... Whether it should win the Oscar all depends on what it is up against, I guess...
Seven Oscars!!!!
I saw this movie twice in theaters, and several times on Blu Ray. It's one of the best movies I've ever seen, and one of my favorites of all time.