I’m grateful to Tom Wadsworth for his dedication to speaking the unpopular truth. What’s most telling about most modern churches is that those who put themselves in high places deserving of respect and honor for assumedly knowing the Bible better than the regular laymen intentionally lie or overlook the reality of these passages in order to maintain authority over the laymen that none of us were ever supposed to have. Instead of getting edified and encouraged to speak the gospel in public, most laymen are discouraged from speaking it even in church. If they can’t even speak of Christ in a place as self-allegedly dedicated to Christ as a church, how are they supposed to find the courage to speak Christ in public? We are ao backward nowadays.
~~~ "Have I Committed an ‘OFFENSE’ (?) In Humbling myself that You might be exalted (?), Because I have preached to You the Gospel of GOD; 'F-R-E-E of CHARGE' ???" ~ Apostle Paul ~ (2 Cor 11:7) ~~~ “What is MY ‘Reward’ then ??? Verily That, when I preach the Gospel, I May Present the gospel of Christ ‘WITHOUT CHARGE’, That I ‘Abuse’ NOT my authority in the gospel.” ~ Apostle Paul ~ (1 Cor 9:18)~ (Many Getting ABUSED Today) ~~~ “But as it may I did NOT ‘Burden’ you (for Money): Nevertheless, being crafty, I caught ‘YOU’ with guile (deceit). Did I make a ‘GAIN’ of you by ANY of them whom I sent unto you ???” ~ Apostle Paul ~ (2 Cor 12:16-17) ~~~ ",,, Nevertheless we have NOT Used this ‘Authority’, But Endure ALL things, lest we should 'HINDER' The (F-R-E-E) Gospel of Christ." ~ Apostle Paul ~ (1 Cor 9:13) ~~~ “NOT Because we have NOT the ‘Authority’, But to make ourselves an ‘E-X-A-M-P-L-E’ Unto you To FOLLOW ‘US’ !!!” ~ Apostle Paul ~ (2 Thess 3:9) ~~~ :)
Real Christianity is NOT a; ,,, 'Spectator Sport' !!! ~~~ The 'Early' Church (Assemblies) had NO 'Spectators',,, as we do TODAY !!! ~~~ :o ~~~ The 'Reformation' CONTINUES, Thanks to ALL Christians who CARE,,, like Dr. Tom Wadsworth !!! ~~~ :)
@markdoherty754 Of course a Pastor/grifter is going to be against a Biblical gathering. The Bible does not support the institutional role of pastors or many of the teachings commonly associated with them, like monogamy as an absolute, compulsory church attendance, mandated tithing, structured worship, and pastor-led gatherings. While some pastors promote strict monogamy, the Bible provides a nuanced view on relationships, including polygamy in the Old Testament. The requirement to attend church is often overstated, as Jesus emphasized worshiping "in spirit and truth" rather than in a specific place or ritual. Tithing, originally a practice under the Mosaic Law, is no longer mandated in the New Testament, which instead encourages generous, voluntary giving. Worship, in the early church, was an organic expression of faith, often taking place in homes without formal leadership. Overall, the Bible does not endorse a rigid pastor-led structure but instead supports flexible gatherings and sincere worship without institutional demands.
We may not have much in the way of instructions to the churches but we do have Jesus saying WHEN YOU PRAY (referencing the prostrations of the priests) to go into your prayer closet so that your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly. This is a strong statement and, unlike the references to tithing that is for the Old Covenant that preachers LOVE to pretend is FOR US today, this command is present imperative with a promise of 'open rewards' So, in Tom and I's brief exchanges, he argues that prostration isn't a necessity in the NT (in private), but i would beg to differ. My book "The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven" gets into many of these modern church conflations and obfuscations and presents a way forward for Christianity.
@ Well, I was looking into this more and realized that these priests were often standing and praying (not prostrate) to make it easier to be seen by everybody. But it doesn't hurt the argument, we are encouraged NOT TO BE LIKE these priests - to do things in an opposite fashion with an opposite motivation.
I'm not disagreeing with Tom's assesment, but it seems he has disregarded the progression of the Revelation as well as the natural extension of Temple and Jewish Synagoue liturgy & practice. There is much more to the ancient practice then just prostration & sacrifice, What about the sacrifice of Praise? if they were singing the Psalms and they certainly did they were extolling the attributes of God.
Revelation?? The evolution of these human traditions has made the church less effective. Paul instructs us what to do when we come together and these rituals are not apart of that. I prefer to use the bible as the standard, not human attempts to appease God
I too have watched that video and others of his. I see two flaws with his argument. First, as you know, the meaning of words changes over time. So, while it may have been referencing a position/posture in the first century, today, we understand the term "worship" in a different context based on our culture. Secondly, there is another Greek word that is translated "worship" in the NT. The Greek word "Leitourgountōn" in Acts 13:2 is also translated as "worshipping". However, the correct context is "ministering". This would be more accurately what is done in our services similar to the OT priests who ministered to the Lord. Personally, I don't think it matters what we call it as long as we are giving our true devotion and love to Him.
I’m grateful to Tom Wadsworth for his dedication to speaking the unpopular truth.
What’s most telling about most modern churches is that those who put themselves in high places deserving of respect and honor for assumedly knowing the Bible better than the regular laymen intentionally lie or overlook the reality of these passages in order to maintain authority over the laymen that none of us were ever supposed to have. Instead of getting edified and encouraged to speak the gospel in public, most laymen are discouraged from speaking it even in church. If they can’t even speak of Christ in a place as self-allegedly dedicated to Christ as a church, how are they supposed to find the courage to speak Christ in public? We are ao backward nowadays.
We are on the same page. Excellent comment!
Jesus commanded against titles among the brethren. Matthew 23 8-12
No one in the NT was called Pastor.
~~~
"Have I Committed an ‘OFFENSE’ (?)
In Humbling myself that You might be exalted (?),
Because I have preached to You the Gospel of GOD;
'F-R-E-E of CHARGE' ???"
~ Apostle Paul ~
(2 Cor 11:7)
~~~
“What is MY ‘Reward’ then ???
Verily That, when I preach the Gospel,
I May Present the gospel of Christ ‘WITHOUT CHARGE’,
That I ‘Abuse’ NOT my authority in the gospel.”
~ Apostle Paul ~
(1 Cor 9:18)~ (Many Getting ABUSED Today)
~~~
“But as it may I did NOT ‘Burden’ you (for Money):
Nevertheless, being crafty, I caught ‘YOU’ with guile (deceit).
Did I make a ‘GAIN’ of you by ANY of them whom I sent unto you ???”
~ Apostle Paul ~
(2 Cor 12:16-17)
~~~
",,, Nevertheless we have NOT Used this ‘Authority’,
But Endure ALL things, lest we should 'HINDER'
The (F-R-E-E) Gospel of Christ."
~ Apostle Paul ~
(1 Cor 9:13)
~~~
“NOT Because we have NOT the ‘Authority’,
But to make ourselves an ‘E-X-A-M-P-L-E’ Unto you To FOLLOW ‘US’ !!!”
~ Apostle Paul ~
(2 Thess 3:9)
~~~
:)
@@shawnambrisco4598 Great stuff!
What Tom Wadsworth teaches on worship is the greatest blessing for believers since the Protestant Reformation.
Real Christianity is NOT a; ,,, 'Spectator Sport' !!!
~~~
The 'Early' Church (Assemblies) had NO 'Spectators',,, as we do TODAY !!!
~~~
:o
~~~
The 'Reformation' CONTINUES, Thanks to ALL Christians who CARE,,, like Dr. Tom Wadsworth !!!
~~~
:)
I'm starting to think that too. The kickback will be huge though, I've even heard a pastor say that the house church movement is demonically inspired.
@markdoherty754 Of course a Pastor/grifter is going to be against a Biblical gathering. The Bible does not support the institutional role of pastors or many of the teachings commonly associated with them, like monogamy as an absolute, compulsory church attendance, mandated tithing, structured worship, and pastor-led gatherings. While some pastors promote strict monogamy, the Bible provides a nuanced view on relationships, including polygamy in the Old Testament. The requirement to attend church is often overstated, as Jesus emphasized worshiping "in spirit and truth" rather than in a specific place or ritual. Tithing, originally a practice under the Mosaic Law, is no longer mandated in the New Testament, which instead encourages generous, voluntary giving. Worship, in the early church, was an organic expression of faith, often taking place in homes without formal leadership. Overall, the Bible does not endorse a rigid pastor-led structure but instead supports flexible gatherings and sincere worship without institutional demands.
@@markdoherty754 That pastor disagrees with the Bible and thus appears demonically inspired.
I’m with Tom 100%
Make every room an edification room. That’s my goal.
We may not have much in the way of instructions to the churches but we do have Jesus saying WHEN YOU PRAY (referencing the prostrations of the priests) to go into your prayer closet so that your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
This is a strong statement and, unlike the references to tithing that is for the Old Covenant that preachers LOVE to pretend is FOR US today, this command is present imperative with a promise of 'open rewards'
So, in Tom and I's brief exchanges, he argues that prostration isn't a necessity in the NT (in private), but i would beg to differ.
My book "The Catalysm of the Kingdom of Heaven" gets into many of these modern church conflations and obfuscations and presents a way forward for Christianity.
“The FEAR of The LORD is the ‘Beginning’ of Knowledge;
But FOOLS ‘Despise’ Wisdom and Instruction.”
(Proverbs 1:7)
~~~
:)
@ Well, I was looking into this more and realized that these priests were often standing and praying (not prostrate) to make it easier to be seen by everybody. But it doesn't hurt the argument, we are encouraged NOT TO BE LIKE these priests - to do things in an opposite fashion with an opposite motivation.
I'm not disagreeing with Tom's assesment, but it seems he has disregarded the progression of the Revelation as well as the natural extension of Temple and Jewish Synagoue liturgy & practice. There is much more to the ancient practice then just prostration & sacrifice, What about the sacrifice of Praise? if they were singing the Psalms and they certainly did they were extolling the attributes of God.
Revelation?? The evolution of these human traditions has made the church less effective. Paul instructs us what to do when we come together and these rituals are not apart of that. I prefer to use the bible as the standard, not human attempts to appease God
I too have watched that video and others of his. I see two flaws with his argument. First, as you know, the meaning of words changes over time. So, while it may have been referencing a position/posture in the first century, today, we understand the term "worship" in a different context based on our culture. Secondly, there is another Greek word that is translated "worship" in the NT. The Greek word "Leitourgountōn" in Acts 13:2 is also translated as "worshipping". However, the correct context is "ministering". This would be more accurately what is done in our services similar to the OT priests who ministered to the Lord. Personally, I don't think it matters what we call it as long as we are giving our true devotion and love to Him.
Still missing the point he is making and I point out that not because I'm not disturbed by his theses.
You are definitely missing his point. Regardless of what worship means, it was not the focus of the church gathering, plain and simple