I have a Chinese clone and its very compact and friendly, all corners are rounded specially the controllers. Main difference is the Chinese clone has composite output and actual 9 pin plugs and no cartridge eject lever. Let me reiterate that its much smaller than the NES, nearly half and much thinner. I don't know why the light gun had a 15pin plug but i never owned one, played a bit duck hunt at some friend's and maybe some other game but that was it. I eventually found replacement controllers with turbo (auto fire) but were identical in size and shape to they would still fit nicely in the sides of the unit. In the video one of the cartridges is legit and the other is a typical Chinese bootleg with a bunch of games bundled into it. The bootlegs also appeared for the nes, but they often had the 60 to 72p adapter inside and its corresponding lockout chip bypass.
Very good video! Some corrections: 11:41 - Port B isn't actually used for anything, though it is labeled "Expansion Port". You cannot connect another RAM Adapter to it (Won't fit). 12:30 - That's a DIN connector for RF. It uses wires similar to NEOGEO CD, but with a different pinout. It can be modded for RGB out. There are some adapters developed that you can use in Port A known as Twin Diamonds -- they will allow you to connect NES/SNES controllers or Zapper if you want. Twin Famicom is a great machine and it's nice to see more videos on it!
Yeah...when you pulled out Little Samson I was like whoa, coming in hot. My mom called it the Nytendo. ;) There was a few reasons the Nes carts were large. Some known and others...not so known. The first is of course as the console was designed to look more like a VCR than a game console. They were afraid people wouldn't buy it fearing another Atari fiasco. The second reason is some of the earlier carts actually contain a Japanese to American pass through cart that enables a Japanese ROM to play on a US machine. This made the ROM twice as long necessitating the longer shell. Lastly, Nintendo wanted it to load carts like a VCR and the larger size helps with that. Those are the only reasons I know.
The VCR look is the reason for the dreaded (faulty prone) front loading. They got rid of it later, it was a very foolish idea. The main reason is what you explained second, they hoped to use the already produced boards for the Famicom in America with the adapter inside. But Nintendo of America couldn't use the games even those that didn't need translation, as it would go against their policies (ie. no religious symbols, etc) and needed changing anyway, so there are very few games having this arrangement (they have 4 screws instead of 3).
My Favorite NES games ... Ninja Gaiden 2 Contra Jackal TMNT 2 the Arcade game Shinobi Street Fighter 2010 Tetris Double Dragon 2 Silver Suffer... Well you know I had over 220 NES CARTRIDGES at one time 1997-2004. It was insane all that mass all that weight I have moved across the street and I had to carry all those cartridges in a bag it was hellish.
@@freeculture and to think this whole time, I never opened up a Nintendo cartridge at the time and it's only like 1/4 the size of the cartridge inside and a ton of empty space in it, lol 😆
Nice video i have one of these i got a few years back. I also have some modded original famicoms and an av famicom but this is always my go to machine for some reason.
Nope, the reason for the large cartridge was more mundane: To fit the 60 to 72pin adapter inside. I guess they thought they could ship many games that needed no translation like this. Turns out, it wasn't a good idea Nintendo of America demanded more changes beyond translation so in the end they had to produce their own separate versions of the games anyway. If they have 4 screws instead of 3, it has the adapter inside. Bigger question is why the NES needed more pins? Mostly for the lockout chip, which the famicom doesn't have (thankfully). The lockout chip would fail in most NES units on its own, and one common "fix" back then was to completely disable it (unlocking your nes).
How about actually doing some research… The reason the carts were bigger and why the NES was front loading was to make it look more like a VCR and less like a video game system. That’s why they are called Game Paks in America. Have you heard of the Great Video Game Crash of ‘83? That’s also why in America it sold with R.O.B., even though it was already discontinued in Japan, to further distance itself as a video game console.
The original Famicom looks like a Transformer that doesn't change into anything.
lol
I have a Chinese clone and its very compact and friendly, all corners are rounded specially the controllers. Main difference is the Chinese clone has composite output and actual 9 pin plugs and no cartridge eject lever. Let me reiterate that its much smaller than the NES, nearly half and much thinner. I don't know why the light gun had a 15pin plug but i never owned one, played a bit duck hunt at some friend's and maybe some other game but that was it. I eventually found replacement controllers with turbo (auto fire) but were identical in size and shape to they would still fit nicely in the sides of the unit. In the video one of the cartridges is legit and the other is a typical Chinese bootleg with a bunch of games bundled into it. The bootlegs also appeared for the nes, but they often had the 60 to 72p adapter inside and its corresponding lockout chip bypass.
Very good video! Some corrections:
11:41 - Port B isn't actually used for anything, though it is labeled "Expansion Port". You cannot connect another RAM Adapter to it (Won't fit).
12:30 - That's a DIN connector for RF. It uses wires similar to NEOGEO CD, but with a different pinout. It can be modded for RGB out.
There are some adapters developed that you can use in Port A known as Twin Diamonds -- they will allow you to connect NES/SNES controllers or Zapper if you want. Twin Famicom is a great machine and it's nice to see more videos on it!
ah good to know. VERY much appreciated dude.
Yeah that adapter is great, you can for instance use 2 8bitdo snes controllers wirelessly and it works great
SHO! Hey dude, fancy seeing you around here. Did you find this from my twitter post? Either way, awesome stuff, good to see you here man!
@@supermegagrafx64 RetroSho is awesome! If he's here, you know you're doing something awesome
Yeah...when you pulled out Little Samson I was like whoa, coming in hot. My mom called it the Nytendo. ;)
There was a few reasons the Nes carts were large. Some known and others...not so known. The first is of course as the console was designed to look more like a VCR than a game console. They were afraid people wouldn't buy it fearing another Atari fiasco. The second reason is some of the earlier carts actually contain a Japanese to American pass through cart that enables a Japanese ROM to play on a US machine. This made the ROM twice as long necessitating the longer shell. Lastly, Nintendo wanted it to load carts like a VCR and the larger size helps with that. Those are the only reasons I know.
The VCR look is the reason for the dreaded (faulty prone) front loading. They got rid of it later, it was a very foolish idea. The main reason is what you explained second, they hoped to use the already produced boards for the Famicom in America with the adapter inside. But Nintendo of America couldn't use the games even those that didn't need translation, as it would go against their policies (ie. no religious symbols, etc) and needed changing anyway, so there are very few games having this arrangement (they have 4 screws instead of 3).
My Favorite NES games ...
Ninja Gaiden 2
Contra
Jackal
TMNT 2 the Arcade game
Shinobi
Street Fighter 2010
Tetris
Double Dragon 2
Silver Suffer...
Well you know I had over 220 NES CARTRIDGES at one time 1997-2004.
It was insane all that mass all that weight I have moved across the street and I had to carry all those cartridges in a bag it was hellish.
If they were famicom sized it would have been at least half the mass... well, at least they realized their mistake by the snes.
@@freeculture and to think this whole time, I never opened up a Nintendo cartridge at the time and it's only like 1/4 the size of the cartridge inside and a ton of empty space in it, lol 😆
I've never seen one of those but those are awesome that is cool
That droning music in the background from memory is that from the RoboCop NES game?
Nice video i have one of these i got a few years back. I also have some modded original famicoms and an av famicom but this is always my go to machine for some reason.
I have one of those and a red twin famicom i rgb modded both of them and did the sound mod on them
Nope, the reason for the large cartridge was more mundane: To fit the 60 to 72pin adapter inside. I guess they thought they could ship many games that needed no translation like this. Turns out, it wasn't a good idea Nintendo of America demanded more changes beyond translation so in the end they had to produce their own separate versions of the games anyway. If they have 4 screws instead of 3, it has the adapter inside. Bigger question is why the NES needed more pins? Mostly for the lockout chip, which the famicom doesn't have (thankfully). The lockout chip would fail in most NES units on its own, and one common "fix" back then was to completely disable it (unlocking your nes).
Hi great video, I will like to know the title names for the last 2 games shown on the video, if somebody knows please I will appreciated
is this the dude from gameranx
How about actually doing some research… The reason the carts were bigger and why the NES was front loading was to make it look more like a VCR and less like a video game system. That’s why they are called Game Paks in America. Have you heard of the Great Video Game Crash of ‘83? That’s also why in America it sold with R.O.B., even though it was already discontinued in Japan, to further distance itself as a video game console.
How about not being a jerk? It's not that hard. Also thanks for the factoids.
When they put them together they used the wrong resistors on the sound output side
My understanding is this is the red models. Is that right?
@@supermegagrafx64 their all wrong i checked it on my turbo twin famicom and it was messed up also
Ah crap. That sux.
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