Hi my name is Felicia, I am 10 years old and I am playing this piece recently. I had never really understood the whole piece until I saw your analysis. Your study means a lot to me, it helps me playing this Nocturne in high quality, and I made the very similar guess on the part of two persons arguments. I have been always confused about the ending, it was so strange for me to understand. You analyze it perfectly. I appreciate your work, the 45 minutes lesson is more meaningful than my own 45 hours practicing. Thank you very much!!!
Hello! You've just made my day. I'm sure you'll be able to play this beautiful piece with a lot of understanding and love. Good luck! Thank you for the feedback!
I love how polish pianists be extremely wise and creative on Chopins pieces. I guess thats also why Zimmermans Ballads are unbeatably the best interpretations. I learn something new about his life and pieces in every single one of your videos. Great Work! And thank you.
Greg you are excellent, all these years (I am 52) I feel all these emotions in Chopin's music but with your aid I see them more deeply. I am a musician I fully understand the music terms. Again BRAVO for your videos. And it is a pity that nobody tell these in the music conservatoires to the young pianists.
Dear Dimitrios, thank you so much! Your comment made my day. Indeed, it's a pity. I work like that with my students. But it's not enough! Let's hope it will change. I am an idealist!
One very interesting thing is that there are two versions of the last chord. 1 in D# and 1 in D natural（major and minor）. The major chord sounds more related to religious things, for example, praying like A～ men～. While the minor chord makes it more tragic. And I personally like to play the minor chords to show there is definitely no hope.
It is one of my favorite Nocturnes; I just love it so much. Thank you so much for your lecture and teaching, this of so much value for all of us. Thanks thanks thanks 🙏 ❤
Absolutely wonderful Maestro Greg thank u so much, I've listened to this nocturne thousands of times before sleeping it had such a hopeful quality to it you are so wonderful thank you for sharing this always wow 👏
I find this analysis excellent. I had turned to the internet whilst studying the piece in particular to understand the "strange ending". Many pianists play the Nocturne, but without any real understanding,(even ending with a B major chord) and they do not relate the final section in any way with the music that has gone before. It always amazes me that the great composers of the past can speak to us so clearly today. With a little more thought I intend to add my own playing of the Nocturne to the internet. Thankyou Greg.
@@gregniemczuk Thankyou for your encouragement. I have recorded my effort entered on You tube under my name Keith Bentley. We are never too old to learn and discover more from music.
Thank you so much. This has always been one of my favourite nocturns. You are an immense interpreter in very each aspect! This huge analysis of every work by Chopin is storically as unique as needed!
All is thanks to COVID-19.... Only the pandemic made me start this huge project. First only Mazurkas, than all the other works. I lost so many concerts so I had more time to prepare this repertoire. Although it's a bit crazy and difficult. Thank you for your words and support! Take care
@@gregniemczuk Great news!!! Then keep us informed please. It will certainly be an Historical recording (like the Cortot's or the Rubinstein's one)! Thanks to your analisysis I have understood, for instance the real meaning and the variety of rithm of authentic mazurcas and waltes!
hola, cuanta razón tienes, cuando me aprendí ese hermoso nocturne, no podia entender los silencios repentinos y el final trágico, pero ahora puedo ver lo que tu analizaste profundamente de los posibles momentos que Chopin sufría en su vida cuidadosamente representado en este Nocturne. Felicitaciones por tu analisis, yo disfruto mucho tocar esta pieza también.
Hi Greg, super analysis. I started this Nocturne today as a companion piece to my study of another Nocturne that has similar figures. After hearing your analysis, I think I'll choose a different Nocturne. Thanks for bringing new light to the piece.
Brilliant analysis Greg, it opened a new depths in understanding of this piece, indeed. Still, there were many different opinions about the very last cord of this nocturne. Yes, the ending is dark, and appears hopeless, equivalent to his feelings and mood while written. The human nature though, is consistent with tiny glimpse of hope even in the darkest hour of human tragedy. The last cord can easily be major, not to indicate the happy ending, but just as a hint and the hope for better days to come. I personally play major cord, definitely, as well as Rubinstein and some other pianists.The piece starts in B major and should end in major too. Everything else Chopin wanted to say was already there , expressed in between the beginning and the end.
@gregniemczuk could it be a coincidence? I also just a bit earlier found something similar in the op. 48 no. 1 nocturne. The sextuplets in the main theme. I could be reading a bit too far into it but to me they sound just too similar.
@@davisatdavis1 in Nocturne it's a coincidence for sure, it's just a kind of embellishment. But in Nocturne.... it's very interesting. Might have some meaning!
Thank you for this very in depth and personal analysis. I’ve only just started learning this piece and may approach each section very differently after watching this. 👍
It's very nearly 3 years to the day since I lost my soulmate and I can't stop listening to every version and arrangement I can discover on here of this unique fusion of melody and harmony - from the melancholic to the reflective, to the playful even - as it seems to perfectly sum up how my heart and mind cope with the fun, the loss, the memories, the pain, the love... There's just something about the achingly absolute innocence of the lullaby opening which within the blink of an eye has modulated only to be arrested by the dramatic pauses.
Thank you for watching. Chopin's music is the best to comfort our pain..... I feel for you. Watch every analysis of my Chopin music! There are hundreds of them. God bless you
I perfectly understand what you mean, Chopin is very very very difficult to interpreter, it's like he's in another dimension, OK Chopin was in another dimension so what he puts into music it's a dialog of sorts between himself and the Universe. Chopin had feelings deep feelings but maybe not the ones people think he had, that passion and love are crap (sorry) , it's a big NO, that's why it's so difficult to put his music into words, no one can, no one, 'cause words are cheap and vulgar, Chopin's music is otherworldly. Chopin is or was so deep that no human can really understand him, but your explanation is very accurate and helpful to all those people who are still too much too immature to understand Chopin. You are truly gifted with words, congrats 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
I have been playing this piece for some time now and have been playing it wrongly. Not any more,, after watching your very fine and detailed analysis of this strange work. Thanks so much!
I have always questioned the ending too. I thought I was the only one though since I never heard anything about that until now. Normally when that part came along in a recording, I would either skip to the next nocturne or replay the whole nocturne before I could get to that unpleasant moment.
At 5:01 you say that you always had thought that the Mazurkas were witnesses of Chopin's life, because they are like a diary. (I did not hear the word correctly. I thought you said they were weaknesses of Chopin's life. My mistake)
I was curious in to how to interpret the fermatas on the rest. I have been trying to ritard into it and suststaining the last chord before releasing, but that doesn't work and sounds rhythmically akward. Your crescendo, slightly pushing the tempo, and immediate release superbly amplifies the emotional affect of the silence.
It does, right? Thank you! I was trying to read Chopin's intentions as hard as I could and also to play it the way I can accept and understand. I'm happy you also think so!
Excelente análisis, pude entender muchos detalles que me parecían ciertos. Es mi nocturno favorito, por la misma razón que dices en el video, el extraño lenguaje y muy personal dicho sea de paso. Sobre todo me gusta mucho el final, algo no visto hasta ese momento, en ninguna de sus obras, ni en las otros compositores anteriores. Pasarán muchas décadas, hasta que en 1888, Erik Satie hiciera algo semejante en su Gymnopédie N°1, la cual comienza está en D y finaliza en Dm. Me gustó mucho tu video, lo ví de principio a fin, ya me suscribí, y compartiré este video por mis redes. Saludos.
I was going to unsubscribe today (I subscribed when I heard your presentation on the Mazurka op. 17 n°4) but started to watch your video : fantastic! It was so interesting (again) that I will now follow you regularly. Thanks so much!
I agree withvthe minor ending now thst i heard yoyr video. Maybe Schirmers put in a sharp on the instead of a natural as they look alike. Thanks for the video.
@@gregniemczuk hola,imagino que está colección de videos los realizas con la intención de avanzar en el estudio de las piezas,destinadas a personas que estudiamos piano o para personas especialmente melómanos y devotas del compositor. He participado en análisis de piezas con profesores y alumnos, sobré todo ,desde el aspecto armónico,tú vas más allá,profundizas al extremo... Es evidente tu calidad tanto en la interpretación como en la pedagogía, enhorabuena 👏👏👏
So sad, but Maria did what most women would do. Psychology research shows that women tend to be more pragmatic than men when chosing a mate. As one of my science teachers used to say, it is the cruelty of biology!
Hi my name is Felicia, I am 10 years old and I am playing this piece recently. I had never really understood the whole piece until I saw your analysis. Your study means a lot to me, it helps me playing this Nocturne in high quality, and I made the very similar guess on the part of two persons arguments. I have been always confused about the ending, it was so strange for me to understand. You analyze it perfectly. I appreciate your work, the 45 minutes lesson is more meaningful than my own 45 hours practicing. Thank you very much!!!
Hello! You've just made my day. I'm sure you'll be able to play this beautiful piece with a lot of understanding and love. Good luck! Thank you for the feedback!
woa you're really smart
I love how polish pianists be extremely wise and creative on Chopins pieces. I guess thats also why Zimmermans Ballads are unbeatably the best interpretations. I learn something new about his life and pieces in every single one of your videos. Great Work! And thank you.
Thank you so much!!! Yes, we love Chopin also because he was so important for our history
Greg you are excellent, all these years (I am 52) I feel all these emotions in Chopin's music but with your aid I see them more deeply. I am a musician I fully understand the music terms. Again BRAVO for your videos. And it is a pity that nobody tell these in the music conservatoires to the young pianists.
Dear Dimitrios, thank you so much! Your comment made my day.
Indeed, it's a pity. I work like that with my students. But it's not enough! Let's hope it will change. I am an idealist!
Thank you for this masterclass
This is a brilliant analysis!! 🤩 We will unfortunately never know if that is what Chopin was trying to express but it makes total sense to me. 👌🏻
Absolutely!
For me as a performer it brings this piece to life and For a very long time I didn't understand it.
One very interesting thing is that there are two versions of the last chord. 1 in D# and 1 in D natural（major and minor）. The major chord sounds more related to religious things, for example, praying like A～ men～. While the minor chord makes it more tragic. And I personally like to play the minor chords to show there is definitely no hope.
It is one of my favorite Nocturnes; I just love it so much. Thank you so much for your lecture and teaching, this of so much value for all of us. Thanks thanks thanks 🙏 ❤
I LOVE ALL CHOPIN!!!!
Absolutely wonderful Maestro Greg thank u so much, I've listened to this nocturne thousands of times before sleeping it had such a hopeful quality to it you are so wonderful thank you for sharing this always wow 👏
I find this analysis excellent. I had turned to the internet whilst studying the piece in particular to understand the "strange ending". Many pianists play the Nocturne, but without any real understanding,(even ending with a B major chord) and they do not relate the final section in any way with the music that has gone before. It always amazes me that the great composers of the past can speak to us so clearly today. With a little more thought I intend to add my own playing of the Nocturne to the internet. Thankyou Greg.
Wonderful!! Please share it here when you do that. I want to hear! Thanks for watching!
@@gregniemczuk Thankyou for your encouragement. I have recorded my effort entered on You tube under my name Keith Bentley. We are never too old to learn and discover more from music.
Thank you so much. This has always been one of my favourite nocturns. You are an immense interpreter in very each aspect! This huge analysis of every work by Chopin is storically as unique as needed!
All is thanks to COVID-19.... Only the pandemic made me start this huge project. First only Mazurkas, than all the other works. I lost so many concerts so I had more time to prepare this repertoire. Although it's a bit crazy and difficult. Thank you for your words and support! Take care
@@gregniemczuk I do hope that the next step will be the recording of the complete piano works by Chopin! I'd run to buy it!
@@vanewfies thanks! Yes, I have such a plan 🙂
@@gregniemczuk Great news!!! Then keep us informed please. It will certainly be an Historical recording (like the Cortot's or the Rubinstein's one)! Thanks to your analisysis I have understood, for instance the real meaning and the variety of rithm of authentic mazurcas and waltes!
Wonderful contrasts!Great analysis
Oh so want to learn it!
Cheers!
hola, cuanta razón tienes, cuando me aprendí ese hermoso nocturne, no podia entender los silencios repentinos y el final trágico, pero ahora puedo ver lo que tu analizaste profundamente de los posibles momentos que Chopin sufría en su vida cuidadosamente representado en este Nocturne. Felicitaciones por tu analisis, yo disfruto mucho tocar esta pieza también.
Aiii gracias!!!
Ich habe meine Chopin Noten hervorgehoben und habe grosse Lust die Nocturne neu zu spielen.Ihr Video ist besser.als eine Klavierstunde.Vielen Dank!!!
You're awesome! Thank you so much! 🙏😍❤️
thank you for the beautiful analysis, maestro.
I watched this analysis several times today!
excellent! super!
I must share this vidio 🐝🎶🎼🐝
Thanks Greg ♥️
Thank you sooooo much!!!!!
Hi Greg, super analysis. I started this Nocturne today as a companion piece to my study of another Nocturne that has similar figures.
After hearing your analysis, I think I'll choose a different Nocturne.
Thanks for bringing new light to the piece.
Thank you so much! It means a lot to me. Thanks for watching and good luck!
Thanks for the comprehensive analysis. Very interesting
Thanks for the comments
This is scary. The connections in this piece are extremely haunting when you just discover them. Very sad as well.
it is beautiful you mean.
Wow, thank you so much. I loved watching this. Your enthusiasm is so inspiring! :)
I'm glad!
Brilliant analysis Greg, it opened a new depths in understanding of this piece, indeed. Still, there were many different opinions about the very last cord of this nocturne. Yes, the ending is dark, and appears hopeless, equivalent to his feelings and mood while written. The human nature though, is consistent with tiny glimpse of hope even in the darkest hour of human tragedy. The last cord can easily be major, not to indicate the happy ending, but just as a hint and the hope for better days to come. I personally play major cord, definitely, as well as Rubinstein and some other pianists.The piece starts in B major and should end in major too. Everything else Chopin wanted to say was already there , expressed in between the beginning and the end.
34:20 sounds like ballade no. 1
Yes!
@gregniemczuk could it be a coincidence? I also just a bit earlier found something similar in the op. 48 no. 1 nocturne. The sextuplets in the main theme. I could be reading a bit too far into it but to me they sound just too similar.
@@davisatdavis1 in Nocturne it's a coincidence for sure, it's just a kind of embellishment. But in Nocturne.... it's very interesting. Might have some meaning!
Thank you for this very in depth and personal analysis. I’ve only just started learning this piece and may approach each section very differently after watching this. 👍
I love your analysing it’s very helpful
Thanks for making this series
Thank you for watching!
It's very nearly 3 years to the day since I lost my soulmate and I can't stop listening to every version and arrangement I can discover on here of this unique fusion of melody and harmony - from the melancholic to the reflective, to the playful even - as it seems to perfectly sum up how my heart and mind cope with the fun, the loss, the memories, the pain, the love... There's just something about the achingly absolute innocence of the lullaby opening which within the blink of an eye has modulated only to be arrested by the dramatic pauses.
Thank you for watching. Chopin's music is the best to comfort our pain..... I feel for you.
Watch every analysis of my Chopin music! There are hundreds of them.
God bless you
@@gregniemczuk 🙏
I perfectly understand what you mean, Chopin is very very very difficult to interpreter, it's like he's in another dimension, OK Chopin was in another dimension so what he puts into music it's a dialog of sorts between himself and the Universe. Chopin had feelings deep feelings but maybe not the ones people think he had, that passion and love are crap (sorry) , it's a big NO, that's why it's so difficult to put his music into words, no one can, no one, 'cause words are cheap and vulgar, Chopin's music is otherworldly. Chopin is or was so deep that no human can really understand him, but your explanation is very accurate and helpful to all those people who are still too much too immature to understand Chopin. You are truly gifted with words, congrats 👏👏👏👍👍👍👍
I have been playing this piece for some time now and have been playing it wrongly. Not any more,, after watching your very fine and detailed analysis of this strange work. Thanks so much!
Awww, so happy to read that!!! Thanks a lot!!! Good luck and enjoy it!
Genius and amazing. Subscribed bro
Cheers!
Glad to see you in the Recital at the Muzeum Chopina. One day I hope visiting Poland to be closer with Chopin and his music.
Thank you! I hope you will!
I’m seeing this piece in a while new light. I hated playing the ending before. I was like, wtf??? Now it makes sense! Thanks so much!!!
YES!!!! And it's so important!
Thank you for your effort ..
You’re so good❤️
Thank you! I appreciate your comment
I like the coda very much😂 though many people think it is very bizarre. A long note with two staccato chords is simply a work of a genius.
Thanks for the detail analysis! I can play better now after I watch your video !!
I'm so happy to hear that!
@@gregniemczuk ❤️❤️
Just discovered your channel. Tremendous content!
Thanks! So you'll have many hours of lectures to watch!!! 😀😀😀 Enjoy!
great video thank you so much
Tha ks for watching!
31:52 sounds a bit like a certain part in the first ballade, doesn't it?
Indeed!!!
I have always questioned the ending too. I thought I was the only one though since I never heard anything about that until now. Normally when that part came along in a recording, I would either skip to the next nocturne or replay the whole nocturne before I could get to that unpleasant moment.
At 5:01 you say that you always had thought that the Mazurkas were witnesses of Chopin's life, because they are like a diary. (I did not hear the word correctly. I thought you said they were weaknesses of Chopin's life. My mistake)
Wonderful
I was curious in to how to interpret the fermatas on the rest. I have been trying to ritard into it and suststaining the last chord before releasing, but that doesn't work and sounds rhythmically akward. Your crescendo, slightly pushing the tempo, and immediate release superbly amplifies the emotional affect of the silence.
It does, right? Thank you! I was trying to read Chopin's intentions as hard as I could and also to play it the way I can accept and understand. I'm happy you also think so!
Excelente análisis, pude entender muchos detalles que me parecían ciertos. Es mi nocturno favorito, por la misma razón que dices en el video, el extraño lenguaje y muy personal dicho sea de paso. Sobre todo me gusta mucho el final, algo no visto hasta ese momento, en ninguna de sus obras, ni en las otros compositores anteriores. Pasarán muchas décadas, hasta que en 1888, Erik Satie hiciera algo semejante en su Gymnopédie N°1, la cual comienza está en D y finaliza en Dm.
Me gustó mucho tu video, lo ví de principio a fin, ya me suscribí, y compartiré este video por mis redes. Saludos.
Muchísimas gracias!
@@gregniemczuk a ti!
grazie gregor
I do know that nocturne, are you speaking about Maria Wodzinska?? I think Chopin's right hand has 2 melodies, 2 parts. Loved your explanation
Yes!
I was going to unsubscribe today (I subscribed when I heard your presentation on the Mazurka op. 17 n°4) but started to watch your video : fantastic! It was so interesting (again) that I will now follow you regularly. Thanks so much!
Thank you so much from the bottom of my heart!
I agree withvthe minor ending now thst i heard yoyr video. Maybe Schirmers put in a sharp on the instead of a natural as they look alike. Thanks for the video.
Sorry for the typos. On the D
it has the saddest and scariest ending i know of any piece
please shout out to @Sheng-Hui Music (youtube channel) more classical music videos.
good job bro ;D
Rubinstein plays from the fontana edition; d# on the last chord. I prefer it.
Yes, I know. But I prefer minor.
2:42 😥
Nice
I will play this piece prob after 10 3
Good choice!
You should set up a Patreon
i never knew all those parts were connected
Stretto does not mean frantic.
綱渡りのように
和音の垣根を
へめぐって
駆け抜けてゆく
指
ふと留まって
天空を仰ぐ
8分休符の
フェルマータ
連れ添って歩く
雨上がりの道
髪の匂い
疲れを知らない
ヘ音記号が
うなり出す前に
ディミヌエンドから
ピアニッシモへと
終えるはずだったのに
コ−ダの
テヌートが
恨みを抱えている
表示を縮小
Que lastima no entender la lengua inglesa..,😔
Ricardo! Espera un día. Voy a agregar subtítulos españoles en este vídeo! Te escribo cuando lo haré!
Ya hecho!! Que disfrutes
@@gregniemczuk no sé cómo expresar mi agradecimiento 🥰,este gesto te honra👍. enormemente.
Muchas gracias
@@ricardoromeromartinez8656 espero que eso ayuda. Es Google traductor pero ojalá se pueda entender!
@@gregniemczuk hola,imagino que está colección de videos los realizas con la intención de avanzar en el estudio de las piezas,destinadas a personas que estudiamos piano o para personas especialmente melómanos y devotas del compositor. He participado en análisis de piezas con profesores y alumnos, sobré todo ,desde el aspecto armónico,tú vas más allá,profundizas al extremo...
Es evidente tu calidad tanto en la interpretación como en la pedagogía, enhorabuena 👏👏👏
So sad, but Maria did what most women would do. Psychology research shows that women tend to be more pragmatic than men when chosing a mate. As one of my science teachers used to say, it is the cruelty of biology!
😀 so true!