this is very impressive, I always knew russian technology is far superior. Na.zi NATO don't even have a weapon capable of intercepting asteroids flying at the speed of light
I think it wasn’t turned ON. If it is, it reveals position. It is only supposed to be ON when the crew gets a warning from something like an A-50 which can detect and is supposed to stay away from where the action is. Now, russia has lost two of them and IL-76 command planes.
And also - orcs are targeted and destroyed west-anti aircraft batteries. For a few days they are easy destroyed an S300 battery, plus one naked aircraft (why they have no aircraft-bunkers???) - also in the same way as here, without any movements... This can be only found when orcs show movies, or when we see damaged vehicles beeing transported back - UA says nothing. Maybe S400/S500 are better as old aa stuff - maybe not. We can't say anything, becouse UA say nothing about stats of atacms. Maybe they are really so unvisible for rus-radars, maybe not. There were also news, that rus air-control aircraft will be soon back in air - with newest version, that can also change the tide. It's war time, not a game - enemy is not stupid. And one more time - they have plenty of S300 and S400, and thousands of Buk/S200 and other older stuff. They have modern radars on aircrafts and warships, and they can do improvizations - UA has a few batteries, any loss is a tragedy.
@@TheFrewah I was joking. Nevertheless, the S-400 and S-300 are supposed to defend against ballistic missiles (HIMARS ATACMS) which are destroying them regularly. Russia’s self claimed air defense systems invulnerability has been shown to be a sham at best. No more countries will be buying Russian air defense systems because they don’t work as claimed.
Putting perhaps a third of their available 'state-of-the-art' S500 assets in harms way, in order to be able to counter a few 'scheduled-for-retirement' F-16s is an interesting development. 😂 And definitely not the sort of move you'd expect if they really reckoned they might have to fight NATO... as if we need any more confirmation that that's all BS propaganda-talk. 🙄
Nonsense. Its an excellent system. It's a huge export success. So it has been a great system for Russia in that regard. But all worldwide customers that bought it on the other hand are not so...
@@bigotbiden Well, to be fair, some past russian air defence systems have been pretty good. They were also early off the mark with MANPADS too, if memory serves. Of course, as they say in the investing world, past performance is no guarantee of future results... :D
@@sancocho1718 That's a bold idea with green crews, casualties can be high even with 4 ship lead weapons instructors flying them. They can throw HARMs and cruise missiles at them but true wild weasel is a recipe for pictures of burning F-16's in fields.
@theemperorofmankind3739 How many of their future F-16s are modified to carry Harpoons? Most F-16s aren't configured to do it. I can't remember if it's a simple OFP update, or if it's more complicated.
Their ATACAMs Storm Shadow etc are well run which makes one think that along with the tech help to keep them going, they have a hot line to an Attack Tech Support Group in the West who they rely on HEAVILY to ensure the don't waste what is just a few thousand rockets. West never planned a decades long war, they assumed use missiles to knock back air defenses, send in Wild Weasels to take out the rest of the air defense, POUND them from the air with every mega weapon the US has, as by no EU exhasted their paltry supplies in intial responses, from B52 loads of Paveways turning defensive lines into dotted lines of craters, cluster munitions of various types detonating tank farms simultaneously setting off dozens of tanks in a nuclear bomb like blast that eliminates any handling or refineries within a few miles, along with whatever unhappy town was there, bolts of copper plasma into the turret tops of fields of tanks, bunker busters into any reinforced ammo dumps, command centers, napalm to clear off the bulk of mines from minefields Russia mostly distributes by catapulting them off trucks and FAE's stunning the remaining troops into the bottoms of whatever hole they managed to survive in so far wanting nothing more than to surrender to anyone to stop the horrors. Then the armored tank and infantry divisions roll through to rear areas chasing terrified enemy amid the smoking ruins of their supply, command, repair, engineering... units. In half the time this war has taken. Don't get me wrong. Ukraiians on the line are freaking Spartans, able to hold back the hordes with spears, their ability even without western artillery to hit targets with just a few shells was amazing and speaks for the grunt work done testing and codifing firing / ballistic programs and tables to their worn out Russian crap. However, their commanders, either grossly incompetent or on Russias payroll. They'd do better watching WWII training films and WWII movies on You Tube and copying the tactics they see there.
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@@abrahamdozer6273 yes - 10 years ago. Now is the first time we can see S-400 "in action". I'd say, one of the many failed decisions of the felon called Erdogan.
The Russians also claim it can stop hypersonic missiles and even satellites, maybe. The system is also supposed to cost 2.5 BILLION dollars and they only have 1 of them. Wonder how many weeks before ATACMS puts it to the test.
S500👉 "can" 👈takeout hypersonic missiles I think someone high up is not buying the info from the propaganda ministry. other wise no one would set the newest missiles that has from the start been deployed around Moscow for 3 years, btw over 12 s-400 shot at F-16I's missiles onboard radar didn't get a lock.
@@ZhovtoBlakytniy I don't think so. I know ruzzia has recently acquired anti-satellite capabilities but I believe those are air launched. Note, ruzzia also claims they were the first to develop anti-satellite weapons even though the Americans did it 30 years ago and the Chinese did it 10 years ago. Even India finished theirs before ruzzia.
IMO, the system itself isnt the problem. The problem is, russia not having a highly trained, highly motivated, experienced crews to run it. Like it should, really, for such high tech, complicated piece of IADS.
I think so too, it probably works well under ideal conditions. Even Ukraines old soviet era S-200 took down an A-50. I think the operators are rookies. When russia invaded, it didn’t have enough and now they have lost many. I think russian doctrine says that the most experienced people are where the action is and these units, within range of drones, have been lost.
I bet you are right. The Ukrainians likely wait to until they have created the desired operational conditions to go ahead with a strike (i.e. AWACS not around, radars confirmed to be off, etc...)
Excellent dilemma Ukraine created. In order to prevent aircraft and cruise missiles from working across the river, the AA system is required, but if its brought forward, ATACMS will find the entire SAM system.
To be fair, I think it performs well if operated as meant. Turn the radar on when you get a warning and then decide when to launch. Then it can act autonomously. But most destroyed S-400 have not been launched.
Maybe the explanation is that Russia never conducted tests in which the S-400 itself was the target, and had to defend itself? Otherwise, you'd have to conclude it doesn't do very well against ballistic missile threats.
No system is infalible. We don't know what it was attacked with, the volume and the planning. In the end what matters for effectiveness is the balance between the value that the system provided and the cost of destroying it.
These systems are supposed to get advanced warning about incoming threats when something like an A-50 detects an incoming threat and that warning should come from a command plane like the IL-76 but it has lost three or more of them and two A-50 planes. Wagner took down an IL-76 and some helicopters. So I wonder if russia has something flying that can detect incoming missiles. I think not.
I would wager the S-500 is equal in capabilities and if they say it isn't they're probably lying. That's like saying a T-80 is better than a T-72. It isn't. They're equally shity.
@@canuckprogressive.3435 The cigarette-lighter socket's in a different position on all the vehicles' dashboards, the command-compartment has horizontal racks in the vodka-fridge and the radar-display's an upgraded LCD screen that can show different shades of red thingy.
Given what we've seen from the purported "wunderwaffen" of the T14 Armata, the Su-57 Felon, and the much-ballyhooed Terminator, I'm guessing you're right. Putin is up there with Elon Musk in terms of selling vapourware.
They can't turn on their radar near the Front because of HAARM, now they are confident while inside their territory but they forgot Ukraine have ATACMS now 😂😂😂
Where are the Orc trolls declaring this was a bunch of decoys? You are falling down on the job! You aren't going to get that gold star by your name at the troll farm . . .
Wait really? Alright here’s the thing: back in 2013 DARPA unveiled a new type of drone system that could be mounted to F-16s called Pyraxis. What Ukraine is doing in Crimea is decimating the air defense in preparation for fixed wing sorties. The combination of these two technologies; the drone swarms we haven’t seen in combat yet at mass scale, are going to be absolutely unprecented combined with the aid that will have compounded and arrived at scale en masse. Zaluzhnyi had written a memo during the counter offensive in 2023 outlying Ukrainian national imperatives for 2024, the most important factor highlited was the introduction of autonomous systems. Ukraine is building a million drone fleet by August, targeting will be done by AI; imagine a single 20 year old kid being in control of 500 autonomous drones that can independently target and be dropped from F-16 altitudes. We are getting ready for a new stage in the war, Ukraine has finally made Crimea militarily untenable for the Russians! We have caught them in a deadlock, they will continue to bring systems over because it’s a core Russian province that needs to be defended and all will happen is it will get attracted. God bless Ukraine and the west
@@dylanduff9645 Not many. There are reports that they have pulled some, if not all, of their S-400 systems out of Kaliningrad, leaving it pretty much defenceless from aerial attack.
The "S" in S-400 stands for "s#it", the Russians wanted an accurate description. Same with the Tanks where "T" stands for "Turret tosser" and the number is the maximum height of the toss, "SU" planes are "S#itty Useless", and "Mig"s are "Massively inflammable garbage".
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Paving the way for the F-16s. I'm curious whether the Rusian long-range air to air missiles are actually a threat (to the F-16s) or if they're as incapable as the SAM systems.
They are of everything works. The S-400 has its own radar and acts autonomously. The ground radar should turn their radar on to determine when to launch. When they do, they reveal position and need to move. So ideally the crew should get a warning from something like an awacs plane and two have been lost. The missile itself is probably good, it’s the other parts that don’t work.
@@TheFrewah I don't exactly understand what you're trying to say. Obviously Rusian SAMs get taken care of successfully with missiles and drones, with Western satellite reconnaissance being the key to success. Therefore my question was how good Rusian long-range air-to-air (or AAMs) REALLY are. I guess we'll see once Ukrainians use F-16s not too far off the contact line.
@@damianm-nordhorn116 we don’t know how good they are since we have almost nevet seen them in action and used against something they were designed for like fighter jets. As you say, we will know if F-16’s fly within range and they launch.
"not very good at it's job" to be fair, it has five different missile variants, lets simplify it down to two major variants, the 40n6/48n6 series and the 9m96 series. the former is very good against aircraft, which it is probably what it was loaded with, the latter is the only series capable of taking out HIMARS or ATACMS, unless it was loaded with the 9m96 series of missiles then it stands no chance against ATACMS. The S-400 also can be datalinked with the A-50, but Ruzzia has lost a couple of them and they havent been seen since
Estos dias han sido ilustrativos con respecto al tema de los S400, 1. Que Rusia ha estado vendiendo chatarra a paises ingenuos. 2. Ya Israel lo habia demostrado en Siria al entrar y salir " como Pedro por su casa" 3. El S500 no durará mucho.
Remember this when you a russian paid troll posting about how strong and capable Russia is: Their modern air defense cant even stop things like 30 year old western weapons 😂
Сила і мужність - підтримка українського народу та героїв 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Сила и мужество поддерживают украинский народ и героев.🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦 Strength and courage support for the Ukrainian people and heroes 🇺🇦🇺🇦 Soutien force et courage aux peuples et aux héros Ukrainiens 🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦
The unknown here is how many of the other launchers/parts of the system, not in the aftermath picture, were damaged in the strike but were in an operable enough state to limp away for repairs.
Sucho runs a great channel, but there is one thing he is getting very wrong. This is his regular claim that Russia's air defense systems are useless. This is not at all true. If it was, then why would Ukraine be expending so many of its limited supply of long-range weapons attacking it? The fact is Russia has very good air defense systems. It is true they are not as good as top-end American ones. However, they are good enough to prevent the Ukrainian AF from conducting close air support, and from going into Russia and knocking out the Russian planes that are launching hundreds of glide bombs. They are also good enough that when Ukraine launches a successful attack against Crimean targets, they often have to send many weapons and decoys. And they have so far been good enough to prevent any recent attacks on the Kurch bridge. Russia has good technology and it has a huge number of systems. The reason that Ukraine is now having so much success fighting them is that it now has a good supply of NATO weapons that were designed to attack Russian air defense systems, and also they are now facing drones that had not yet been invented when the air defense systems were originally designed. And so we can now expect that Russian air defenses will be increasingly be eliminated, and that will be a great aid to the Ukrainian war effort. But it is not at all the case that Russian air defenses are simply useless.
Is there a discount when ordering the entire set of launchers, radar and command vehicle, or why are they being placed so ridiculously close to each other over and over again?
India are looking at Western suppliers to replace their entire military. They are currently in talks with France about some new fighter jets. Yet another massive own goal from the man who believes he is a brilliant leader whilst losing Russia its largest arms customer.
India is probably regretting their dependence on russia. But they are too stuck in previous tracks to move out of them smoothly or non-slow. So there is nothing they can do here and now. 20 years from now is another matter.
Both made their purchasing decisions for geopolitical, not technical, reasons. I suspect both expected the systems to at least work as advertised though.
@@alexhajnal107 "Da best system in da world, capable of seeing and shooting down 5th generation fighters. Trust me bro". Track record: Unable to protect themselves against big ATACMS rockets from the early 1990s. Unable to shot down a big slow flying Soviet drone from the 1970s attacking Engels airforce base for strategic bombers despite flying over a hour in Russian aerospace. And this is Russias perhaps most important air base it failed to protect. It also failed to protect 30 Russian admirals from getting taken out by a small number of Stormshadow missiles. The enormous amounts of air defence and S-300 on the cruiser Moskva that was supposed to be the air defence shield for all the other ships in the russian black sea fleet is also embaressing. And now have another battery been taken out by ATACMS. This is embaressing. And these systems are extremely expensive so they should not low quality junk that gets destroyed all the time. Not even the worlds richest country USA could afford to lose this expensive air defence systems every week like this.
Don't worry. Russia is rapidly developing the S600, S700, S800, S900 and S1000 systems. The latter is also capable of intercepting asteroids...
yeah. On its way to the interplanetary space.
Some say they will even be able to intercept flying T90 turrets...
this is very impressive, I always knew russian technology is far superior.
Na.zi NATO don't even have a weapon capable of intercepting asteroids flying at the speed of light
I hear the S-2000 will talk directly to aliens, ghosts, and big foot, asking them for help to fight the terrible West.
😄
The S400 Radar worked, Ivan knew three minutes, before he met his ancestors.
I think it wasn’t turned ON. If it is, it reveals position. It is only supposed to be ON when the crew gets a warning from something like an A-50 which can detect and is supposed to stay away from where the action is. Now, russia has lost two of them and IL-76 command planes.
@@TheFrewahUkraine wasted expensive western rockets to a fake target, it was a distraction.
Many missles and rockets were intercepted
@@TheFrewah Well, I think it is now turned OFF.
@@64much permanently!
And also - orcs are targeted and destroyed west-anti aircraft batteries. For a few days they are easy destroyed an S300 battery, plus one naked aircraft (why they have no aircraft-bunkers???) - also in the same way as here, without any movements... This can be only found when orcs show movies, or when we see damaged vehicles beeing transported back - UA says nothing.
Maybe S400/S500 are better as old aa stuff - maybe not. We can't say anything, becouse UA say nothing about stats of atacms. Maybe they are really so unvisible for rus-radars, maybe not. There were also news, that rus air-control aircraft will be soon back in air - with newest version, that can also change the tide. It's war time, not a game - enemy is not stupid.
And one more time - they have plenty of S300 and S400, and thousands of Buk/S200 and other older stuff. They have modern radars on aircrafts and warships, and they can do improvizations - UA has a few batteries, any loss is a tragedy.
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You forgot the deadpan humor. 😂
@@andrewmcalister3462 Yes indeed!
Russia deployed the S 500 to protect the S 400 and S 300 from air attack. 😂
The pantsir is supposed to protect these systems.
@@TheFrewah I was joking.
Nevertheless, the S-400 and S-300 are supposed to defend against ballistic missiles (HIMARS ATACMS) which are destroying them regularly.
Russia’s self claimed air defense systems invulnerability has been shown to be a sham at best.
No more countries will be buying Russian air defense systems because they don’t work as claimed.
@@TheFrewah "supposed" doing most of the heavy lifting there 😉
Russians online claiming Ukraine has no victories.
Meanwhile Russian air defences...
Putting perhaps a third of their available 'state-of-the-art' S500 assets in harms way, in order to be able to counter a few 'scheduled-for-retirement' F-16s is an interesting development. 😂
And definitely not the sort of move you'd expect if they really reckoned they might have to fight NATO... as if we need any more confirmation that that's all BS propaganda-talk. 🙄
…and Black Sea fleet…
... and AEWACS planes...
And pretty much everything else…
Or as the vatniks would say, the S-400 system destroyed some ATACAMS....
When you knock out the radar it becomes an S-400 Paperweight.
Adding the s500 to my bingo card. For fun, ill say 2 weeks haha.
"I'm starting to get the feeling it's not a very good system" - priceless. 🤣
Nonsense. Its an excellent system. It's a huge export success. So it has been a great system for Russia in that regard.
But all worldwide customers that bought it on the other hand are not so...
@@bigotbiden Well, to be fair, some past russian air defence systems have been pretty good. They were also early off the mark with MANPADS too, if memory serves. Of course, as they say in the investing world, past performance is no guarantee of future results... :D
yeah def, im surprised seeing all these anti air takeouts i had assumed air defence woulda been better
@@bigotbiden Nazi aZZov rat spotted
"Starting to get the feeling.."
Priceless.
Ukraine’s future F16 fleet is getting safer and safer every day!
Wild weasel missions incoming
@@sancocho1718 Not just those. But the F-16 can carry air launched versions of Harpoon. Meaning the Black Sea fleet is even more vulnerable
@@sancocho1718 That's a bold idea with green crews, casualties can be high even with 4 ship lead weapons instructors flying them.
They can throw HARMs and cruise missiles at them but true wild weasel is a recipe for pictures of burning F-16's in fields.
The skies are safer for Ukrainian pilots now. F-16s won't be flying in Ukraine for a year or more.
@theemperorofmankind3739 How many of their future F-16s are modified to carry Harpoons? Most F-16s aren't configured to do it.
I can't remember if it's a simple OFP update, or if it's more complicated.
Ukies know their game!... everything they do is well planed...
Their ATACAMs Storm Shadow etc are well run which makes one think that along with the tech help to keep them going, they have a hot line to an Attack Tech Support Group in the West who they rely on HEAVILY to ensure the don't waste what is just a few thousand rockets. West never planned a decades long war, they assumed use missiles to knock back air defenses, send in Wild Weasels to take out the rest of the air defense, POUND them from the air with every mega weapon the US has, as by no EU exhasted their paltry supplies in intial responses, from B52 loads of Paveways turning defensive lines into dotted lines of craters, cluster munitions of various types detonating tank farms simultaneously setting off dozens of tanks in a nuclear bomb like blast that eliminates any handling or refineries within a few miles, along with whatever unhappy town was there, bolts of copper plasma into the turret tops of fields of tanks, bunker busters into any reinforced ammo dumps, command centers, napalm to clear off the bulk of mines from minefields Russia mostly distributes by catapulting them off trucks and FAE's stunning the remaining troops into the bottoms of whatever hole they managed to survive in so far wanting nothing more than to surrender to anyone to stop the horrors. Then the armored tank and infantry divisions roll through to rear areas chasing terrified enemy amid the smoking ruins of their supply, command, repair, engineering... units. In half the time this war has taken. Don't get me wrong. Ukraiians on the line are freaking Spartans, able to hold back the hordes with spears, their ability even without western artillery to hit targets with just a few shells was amazing and speaks for the grunt work done testing and codifing firing / ballistic programs and tables to their worn out Russian crap. However, their commanders, either grossly incompetent or on Russias payroll. They'd do better watching WWII training films and WWII movies on You Tube and copying the tactics they see there.
Frankly, I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell ya! 😌
Me too, The Enforcer. How's he doing nowadays?
As in Michelle ?
Rodney Dangerfield. Lol.
@@Zappa-bn3dq who?
@@oleopathic a famous feminist singer and songwriter from Texas
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You can't spell missile without 'miss'
-Igor, S-400 operator
russian air defense intercepts all incoming threats, when the threat hits the launchers
That's a billion dollars of radars in three days . . .
"Oh, we have gas to pay for it all." says the Russians who's big export pipeline was destroyed.
Lots of Republicans are concerned about future Ruzzian funding drying up.
Luckily the yachts, Dacha's and mistresses bought with that money are still safe, so the oligarchs are not breaking a sweat
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 The Goblins in Switzerland love their gold hidden deep in their mountain.
Radar systems are key because militaries are blinded without them.
Ukrainians know their territory
VD Putin is promising to “Immediately” order a cease-fire in Ukraine and begin negotiations, IF, Kyiv startes withdrawing troops from it's four occupied Ukrainian regions and won't join NATO.
Which means he is losing.
После встречи с клоуном зеленский проверить свои карманы 😂
@@prozrel_so you dont disagree that russia is loosing and thats why putin is desperate
Hows the ruble?
The ruble fell like a rock yesterday, and now he begs for peace. How pathethic.
He's desperately trying to continue the SMO "on the cheap"...meanwhile President Zelinskyy gets another 52 Billion...
@@BlutoandCo losing! loose means not tight
I wonder how other countries are feeling about its purchase of these systems.Talk about a waste of money .
well, nobody claimed Indians were smart.
The Turks traded F-35s for the S-400.
Oops (in Turkish)
@@abrahamdozer6273 yes - 10 years ago. Now is the first time we can see S-400 "in action".
I'd say, one of the many failed decisions of the felon called Erdogan.
@@abrahamdozer6273 I think that Erdoğan will want his money back.
@@Marc_Gagne Erdogan can lever Putin al sorts of ways but he seems to like him.
Rumor is the S500 uses it's radar station to intercept the missiles 😂
The Russians also claim it can stop hypersonic missiles and even satellites, maybe. The system is also supposed to cost 2.5 BILLION dollars and they only have 1 of them. Wonder how many weeks before ATACMS puts it to the test.
I've heard they're using T-72 turrets because they've collected plenty of data to use it as a kinetic interceptor.
@@heyho4770 flying turrets are na anti drone feature
@@asdfdsf-s4u by now there are enough turrets in orbit that they provide a planetary shield
I am shocked! Shocked! Well, not that shocked.
The S-500 is basically the same as the S-400 except it has some corrugated iron welded to the top of it ;-)
S500 can takeout hypersonic missiles and low earth orbit satellites. But what about a low cost drone?
S500👉 "can" 👈takeout hypersonic missiles
I think someone high up is not buying the info from the propaganda ministry.
other wise no one would set the newest missiles that has from the start been
deployed around Moscow for 3 years, btw over 12 s-400 shot at F-16I's missiles onboard radar didn't get a lock.
Did they ever test it on an ICBM or an Earth orbit satellite? 🤭
@@ZhovtoBlakytniy I don't think so. I know ruzzia has recently acquired anti-satellite capabilities but I believe those are air launched. Note, ruzzia also claims they were the first to develop anti-satellite weapons even though the Americans did it 30 years ago and the Chinese did it 10 years ago. Even India finished theirs before ruzzia.
@@ZhovtoBlakytniyunless there is convincing proof, take any “ruSSian claims” with great skepticism
I'm getting butterflies
Hindustan Times and their fans keep coping with how great Russia defense. Lol
That channel is full of propaganda bots
Yeah, why is that outlet full of ruzzian trolls?
Hindustan Times and Times of India are full of Russian propaganda = untrustworthy!
@@sebastiaanl9876perceivedreality anyone?
That channel and Rusbots area better duo than Storm Shadows/Black Sea Navy ships🤣.
IMO, the system itself isnt the problem. The problem is, russia not having a highly trained, highly motivated, experienced crews to run it. Like it should, really, for such high tech, complicated piece of IADS.
I think so too, it probably works well under ideal conditions. Even Ukraines old soviet era S-200 took down an A-50. I think the operators are rookies. When russia invaded, it didn’t have enough and now they have lost many. I think russian doctrine says that the most experienced people are where the action is and these units, within range of drones, have been lost.
@@TheFrewah That, and or they were training for show, not for combat - and now this fact rears its ugly head at them.
O no sirven para un cárajo, y son sólo propaganda pro-Rusa. ¿No q con el S500 en Crimea no ingresaba una mosca sin ser destruida?.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😅😅😅😅
I bet you are right. The Ukrainians likely wait to until they have created the desired operational conditions to go ahead with a strike (i.e. AWACS not around, radars confirmed to be off, etc...)
And I wonder why crews are lackluster....
Excellent dilemma Ukraine created. In order to prevent aircraft and cruise missiles from working across the river, the AA system is required, but if its brought forward, ATACMS will find the entire SAM system.
OUCH, THATS GOTTA HURT
when you have a bad day, just remember Turkey renounced the F-35 for the S-400
to be perfectly honest i was under impression s400 was world class prior to this conflict
To be fair, I think it performs well if operated as meant. Turn the radar on when you get a warning and then decide when to launch. Then it can act autonomously. But most destroyed S-400 have not been launched.
Impressive is a word not typically used to describe anything Russian made.😂😂😂
Are they pointing them in the right direction???
😂
OMG, I think you stumbled onto their problem!
Up?
Maybe the explanation is that Russia never conducted tests in which the S-400 itself was the target, and had to defend itself?
Otherwise, you'd have to conclude it doesn't do very well against ballistic missile threats.
Testing a weapon system? What are you mad? That cost money that several in the military could skim off & they could build a little Dacha with.
@Sameoldsongdance a Dacha that get burned down by partisans who have a mind to do something correct in this war.
No system is infalible. We don't know what it was attacked with, the volume and the planning. In the end what matters for effectiveness is the balance between the value that the system provided and the cost of destroying it.
@allydea 100% cost vs reward.
A potential "cost" might be reduced future sales to foreign governments if the system looks ineffective.
Radars seem to attract bad mojo. Maybe they should go home.
Thank you for the update
These systems are supposed to get advanced warning about incoming threats when something like an A-50 detects an incoming threat and that warning should come from a command plane like the IL-76 but it has lost three or more of them and two A-50 planes. Wagner took down an IL-76 and some helicopters. So I wonder if russia has something flying that can detect incoming missiles. I think not.
The A-50 is based on an Il-76 airframe.
Thanks Buddy for the update❤️❤️
I would wager the S-500 is equal in capabilities and if they say it isn't they're probably lying. That's like saying a T-80 is better than a T-72. It isn't. They're equally shity.
I'm guessing they scraped off the 4 and painted on a 5.
@@canuckprogressive.3435 The cigarette-lighter socket's in a different position on all the vehicles' dashboards, the command-compartment has horizontal racks in the vodka-fridge and the radar-display's an upgraded LCD screen that can show different shades of red thingy.
Given what we've seen from the purported "wunderwaffen" of the T14 Armata, the Su-57 Felon, and the much-ballyhooed Terminator, I'm guessing you're right. Putin is up there with Elon Musk in terms of selling vapourware.
They can't turn on their radar near the Front because of HAARM, now they are confident while inside their territory but they forgot Ukraine have ATACMS now 😂😂😂
Where are the Orc trolls declaring this was a bunch of decoys? You are falling down on the job! You aren't going to get that gold star by your name at the troll farm . . .
this was bunch of decoys, russia never even invaded ukraine
@@asdfdsf-s4u I know, right? When little putin pulls his border back to 2013, he will deny ever having invaded at all.
Wait really?
Alright here’s the thing: back in 2013 DARPA unveiled a new type of drone system that could be mounted to F-16s called Pyraxis. What Ukraine is doing in Crimea is decimating the air defense in preparation for fixed wing sorties.
The combination of these two technologies; the drone swarms we haven’t seen in combat yet at mass scale, are going to be absolutely unprecented combined with the aid that will have compounded and arrived at scale en masse.
Zaluzhnyi had written a memo during the counter offensive in 2023 outlying Ukrainian national imperatives for 2024, the most important factor highlited was the introduction of autonomous systems. Ukraine is building a million drone fleet by August, targeting will be done by AI; imagine a single 20 year old kid being in control of 500 autonomous drones that can independently target and be dropped from F-16 altitudes.
We are getting ready for a new stage in the war, Ukraine has finally made Crimea militarily untenable for the Russians! We have caught them in a deadlock, they will continue to bring systems over because it’s a core Russian province that needs to be defended and all will happen is it will get attracted. God bless Ukraine and the west
Knocking out the radar is huge - I'm sure the most expensive and renders the rest of the system useless
Edit: oh you covered that lol
Your right, other channels are also revealing the fact that it's not a very good system.
S-500 comes with cup holders.
The Kerch Bridge is shaking in fear with each passing day.
@@prozrel_Putin's blitzkrieg isn't working 😂
@@prozrel_ Take care of your krimea residence interior while moving to antallya !
Nice, I have found two bots now. Check comments kek
@@wolfgangemmerich7552 ask peoples of Crimea, what they want. But you bot can not have voice
@@prozrel_ Did Putin ask all Crimeans what they want befor send his ,, green men " ?
I have a feeling the flying Sharks are comin. i always call f16 sharks, due to all the fins etc :)
@@bigotbiden yes, but that has Nothing to do with this..... so don't change the subject
They are Falcons,, ;o) FIGHTING Falcons
@@cmtwgrdk2748 I you really want to be pedantic, the crews call them vipers.
@@cmtwgrdk2748 Their crews call them vipers.
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So what's the count now?
I'm wondering how many they have left..
@@dylanduff9645 Not many. There are reports that they have pulled some, if not all, of their S-400 systems out of Kaliningrad, leaving it pretty much defenceless from aerial attack.
Prior to Tuesday, the Russians had lost two S-400 command posts, four radars and 16 launchers that the analysts at Oryx can confirm. -Forbes
@@dylanduff9645That's probably easier to count than the number destroyed.
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i wonder if HARM missile systems are a part of this
It does have that 'smell' to it.
You gotta admit the batteries got guts!!
S500 being deployed now, be interesting to see if it's equally at poor at defending itself
It’s probably good if everything else works. If you leave your radar off for fear of revealing your position, it doesn’t matter.
Got a feeling we will find out rather soon...think I already know the answer...
The Ukrainians have had a field day with the most recent aid given to them.
Slava Ukraini!
Very clever sense of humour
The "S" in S-400 stands for "s#it", the Russians wanted an accurate description. Same with the Tanks where "T" stands for "Turret tosser" and the number is the maximum height of the toss, "SU" planes are "S#itty Useless", and "Mig"s are "Massively inflammable garbage".
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Another important factor is they might be strugling to find and train competant operators
suchonimus, I love your videos!
You need some sound insulation in the space you use to record. :)
Your sarcasm is unparalleled 😅
I treat uploads from Sucho as breaking news and stop what I'm doing immediately.
they need the S-500s to protect the S-400s....but what will protect the S-500s?
They will unleash Kirill and ruZZian orthodox priests to protect those systems.
Why is the second photo grey ? Hard to say are they destroyed or not
@@bigotbiden sry , that I’m not a blind donkey , that believes everything without questions
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Paving the way for the F-16s.
I'm curious whether the Rusian long-range air to air missiles are actually a threat (to the F-16s) or if they're as incapable as the SAM systems.
They are of everything works. The S-400 has its own radar and acts autonomously. The ground radar should turn their radar on to determine when to launch. When they do, they reveal position and need to move. So ideally the crew should get a warning from something like an awacs plane and two have been lost. The missile itself is probably good, it’s the other parts that don’t work.
@@TheFrewah
I don't exactly understand what you're trying to say.
Obviously Rusian SAMs get taken care of successfully with missiles and drones, with Western satellite reconnaissance being the key to success.
Therefore my question was how good Rusian long-range air-to-air (or AAMs) REALLY are.
I guess we'll see once Ukrainians use F-16s not too far off the contact line.
@@bigotbiden
What exactly are you trying to say?
@@damianm-nordhorn116 we don’t know how good they are since we have almost nevet seen them in action and used against something they were designed for like fighter jets. As you say, we will know if F-16’s fly within range and they launch.
With so many S-300 and S-400 destroyed, I am starting to suspect what the letter S stands for...
I think Russia will not be able to sell a single S-400 system to another country anymore.
How many air defenses have been hit lately, it’s gotta be close to a dozen in the last week or so right?
Wow
"not very good at it's job" to be fair, it has five different missile variants, lets simplify it down to two major variants, the 40n6/48n6 series and the 9m96 series. the former is very good against aircraft, which it is probably what it was loaded with, the latter is the only series capable of taking out HIMARS or ATACMS, unless it was loaded with the 9m96 series of missiles then it stands no chance against ATACMS. The S-400 also can be datalinked with the A-50, but Ruzzia has lost a couple of them and they havent been seen since
Did it even try to defend itself? Was the radar turned ON. That reveals position.
Estos dias han sido ilustrativos con respecto al tema de los S400,
1. Que Rusia ha estado vendiendo chatarra a paises ingenuos.
2. Ya Israel lo habia demostrado en Siria al entrar y salir " como Pedro por su casa"
3. El S500 no durará mucho.
Even the command post could intercept at least one Ukranean missile. Collateral damage, the command post got little damage.
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Remember this when you a russian paid troll posting about how strong and capable Russia is: Their modern air defense cant even stop things like 30 year old western weapons 😂
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The unknown here is how many of the other launchers/parts of the system, not in the aftermath picture, were damaged in the strike but were in an operable enough state to limp away for repairs.
How many of these things do they have
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'Not very good at their job'? We may never know Sucho. Since it is crewed by incompetent russians even in the best of times.
and it's hard to interview a red mist
The new Russian S2001 system changes the earths rotation so the silver tubes miss their mark.
I can't imagine NATO isn't tracking S500 movements to catch it in transit.
Maybe is done on purpose, Russian soldiers giving up on this war .
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Russia hyped these missile systems for sales abroad, but sadly lacking in the acid test of battle.
Sucho runs a great channel, but there is one thing he is getting very wrong. This is his regular claim that Russia's air defense systems are useless. This is not at all true. If it was, then why would Ukraine be expending so many of its limited supply of long-range weapons attacking it?
The fact is Russia has very good air defense systems. It is true they are not as good as top-end American ones. However, they are good enough to prevent the Ukrainian AF from conducting close air support, and from going into Russia and knocking out the Russian planes that are launching hundreds of glide bombs. They are also good enough that when Ukraine launches a successful attack against Crimean targets, they often have to send many weapons and decoys. And they have so far been good enough to prevent any recent attacks on the Kurch bridge. Russia has good technology and it has a huge number of systems.
The reason that Ukraine is now having so much success fighting them is that it now has a good supply of NATO weapons that were designed to attack Russian air defense systems, and also they are now facing drones that had not yet been invented when the air defense systems were originally designed. And so we can now expect that Russian air defenses will be increasingly be eliminated, and that will be a great aid to the Ukrainian war effort. But it is not at all the case that Russian air defenses are simply useless.
So how many have been destroyed so far?
Is there a discount when ordering the entire set of launchers, radar and command vehicle, or why are they being placed so ridiculously close to each other over and over again?
Using a central generator pack would require all units in a battery to be close to each other.
Maybe the cables are like those you get when you buy something from china that comes with a 1dm long usb cable?
How many of these things do they/ did they have?
India should dump the s400 and get the F35 while its still being offered
India sits too comfortably with Russia these days to be considered a trustworthy and reliable partner.
dont offer the indians f all after they took the side of putlin at the start of the war.
Hell no. They are way too close with Russia to trust.
India are looking at Western suppliers to replace their entire military. They are currently in talks with France about some new fighter jets. Yet another massive own goal from the man who believes he is a brilliant leader whilst losing Russia its largest arms customer.
India is probably regretting their dependence on russia. But they are too stuck in previous tracks to move out of them smoothly or non-slow. So there is nothing they can do here and now. 20 years from now is another matter.
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India and Turkey really regretting about their choices aren't they...
Both made their purchasing decisions for geopolitical, not technical, reasons. I suspect both expected the systems to at least work as advertised though.
@@alexhajnal107 "Da best system in da world, capable of seeing and shooting down 5th generation fighters. Trust me bro".
Track record: Unable to protect themselves against big ATACMS rockets from the early 1990s. Unable to shot down a big slow flying Soviet drone from the 1970s attacking Engels airforce base for strategic bombers despite flying over a hour in Russian aerospace. And this is Russias perhaps most important air base it failed to protect.
It also failed to protect 30 Russian admirals from getting taken out by a small number of Stormshadow missiles. The enormous amounts of air defence and S-300 on the cruiser Moskva that was supposed to be the air defence shield for all the other ships in the russian black sea fleet is also embaressing.
And now have another battery been taken out by ATACMS. This is embaressing. And these systems are extremely expensive so they should not low quality junk that gets destroyed all the time. Not even the worlds richest country USA could afford to lose this expensive air defence systems every week like this.