I used them for hiking during summer, holes appeared in the fabric after a month. Took them to have stitched up, more holes appeared at the second month, then I just threw them out.
That is very strange. I went hiking in these in Bieszczady mountains in Poland in the summer once an it was horrible. The soles are super shit and super soft. They ruined my knees after 20 km on the trail with a backpack.
@@MrSzczuras Yeah these just... aren't hiking boots, I don't know what to say. They're qualities are their comfort, style, and solid construction for what they are.
I've worn the same pair for about 4 years now, most comfortable shoes i own. I waxed the canvas aa a Diy and only had to sew one spot near the tongue, but you cannot compare the comfort to even my sneakers.
I still wear mine even if they busted near the all of my footmen deceptively comfortable and long lasting. Better investment than converse imo. Just dont wear them in the wet.
They were made so much better back in the day. I have a pair ove had for over 10 years. Amazing and comfy to walk and romp up mountains in. Sadly they said fuck good buisness were movin to china. They suck now.s a d
The side flanges are similar to ones you'd find in skate shoes and give support and comfort and help keep the foot in place to avoid it slipping around on the insole.
I’m a Potter working in Japan, and I wear it every day for working in the studio. I also wear it when doing the wood firing. The canvas started tearing after the 4th year, but it still works (6th year). It is comfortable, supports, and protects my feet better than Converse. I think it suits those looking for carefree lightweight canvas ankle-high shoes that you can wear for an urban lifestyle to art and craft working.
I've been wearing Palladium boots for years. They are so comfortable and light. And yes, it's not a work boot or hiking boot. The use case from my perspective is that I prefer a boot type footwear in terms of style but you don't always want to be wearing a heavy thick boot. These are perfect for the warmth of summer, for urban walking, general life etc. They are the most comfortable and light weight boot style footwear I've worn, and I love them for that. I've never had a problem with the sole, I find them perfectly adequate for normal usage.
I have a leather waterproof pair that I've worn infrequently for years and it seems like they still have a lot of life in them. A lot of Palladium marketing includes the word "sneakerboot" which is a great way to think about these - basically sneakers that look like boots. If that's your expectation you'll not be disappointed!
@@snezhanaanechkin9373 I was curious so I looked it up, and it turns out I've had them since 2013. Obviously they're thoroughly weathered now but still structurally great. I got them on a 50% off sale but full price would have still been a great value.
@@snezhanaanechkin9373 I had a pair leather waterproof and a pair of leather non-waterproof one. The non waterproof are lighter than the waterproof one. Both were very comfy. The non waterproof leather Palladium was one of the most comfy shoes (not just boots) I've ever owned. HOWEVER, the vulcanized rubber sole were trash. The glue only lasted two years on both pairs.
It provides support around the heel and the arch, providing more stability to the foot. I think it might be the reason that I've never rolled an ankle in these boots.
I used to live in Southern Africa and these were my go to boot when I went out in the bush as they were light and kept my feet cool, never had any issues with the outsole.
Christian Kröhnert I think the only issue I have with outsole are the rocks that get stuck in the middle and heel tread. Other than my favorite boots. I think I have 8 different pairs.
Christian, same here! I live in South Africa and use these as my hiking and fishing boots - what I especially like is that they dry so quickly and dont get smelly. Only gripe I might have is small stones getting stuck in the tread pattern, but otherwise they fantastic. Ive tried a lot of other options.
@@johnrhodes3350 Hi John, Ive owned the models called "Pampa Hi" which is pretty much a high top ankle fit and then the "Pallabrouse Baggy" which goes higher up the leg like a military boot. The high top Pampa Hi fit is more comfortable, but the Pallabrouse Baggy gives way more stability and support. The pairs I own are all in a rugged cotton canvas fabric so I havnt tried the waxed versions.... but - I have had the thought of doing my own waxing which seems quite easy, there are loads of tutorial videos on waterproofing canvas shoes. If I had to choose one pair for outdoor use I'd go with the Pallabrouse Baggy I guess.
No difference. The lug soles and basic construction of the boot varieties are all very similar. I don't know if there might be some difference in the durability or traction of the rubber material. The ones I have have not had good wet traction, which probably indicates poor traction on ice as well. But the trade-off is they are incredibly long-lasting, and surprisingly the souls have outlasted the upper. They do have quite a few different styles some that have sneaker soles without lugs, and I don't know anything about the material used in those.
@@gerwsgse Palladiums are good because they are simple, light, thin and dry out quickly. That's what the originals were designed to do. Also, Palladiums can be inexpensive. Personally, I only buy them on sale. I don't think canvas boots are worth $100. They could be worth more with different upper material, but canvas is my preference. They do make cold and wet weather versions now that have a dust seal on the tongue (the cheaper original versions have a completely separate tongue that allows dirt and water past at the laces). The cold weather versions probably have a different rubber material for better traction in the wet. At least I hope they do. Some are also insulated or water proofed which also means they will not dry out nearly as fast when soaked. Palladiums are cool but mostly an urban boot. They can be comfortable because they are thin and have less support. Most Timberlands are far more substantial boots, but Timberland might not dry out as fast when soaked. Timberland is the opposite idea from Palladium. It's hard to compare them.
@@fieldlab4 Haha I had a pair of palladiums in 2012/13 but they was 1 size too big for me but I still wore them all throughout college. They seemed to hold up pretty well and ended up reselling them recently. But I’ve just ordered original baggy and a green pair with a zipper. For like £97. Will do the job hopefully
Owned a pair for just under a year, super comfy. Have used them for hiking and work (at a greenhouse). Never had problems with the sole. Gave me a blister when I first got them, only footwear to have done that, a week in they were way more comfy.
I’ve had a pair of the leather version with insulation for about four years now - I mostly use them as winter beater boots when I don’t want to tread through deep snow, slush, and salt with my nicer boots. Never had an issue with the sole breaking and it does take a long time for it to wear down, and it’s also very grippy in snow. They’re definitely not the most comfortable or well made, but for a pair of boots you can throw on and not care what happens to them I have to say they’re probably the best in that regard.
The orange flanges are when your wearing socks and your foot slips around. Since the foam isn't as slippy as the canvas, its sort of to minimize slipping.
I'm guessing these are the lowest end Palladiums you could get. I wonder if the high end ones are more robust in the sole. I have an old baggy gusset leather with the blue waterproof logo that retailed for like $150 almost a decade ago. I also have a newer cheaper leather version that is non-waterproof and worse in just about every way. Lining, leather, laces are all way lower quality.
Not really. I think they're all pretty much the same across the price range, unfortunately. Only real difference is materials and appearance. Soles are all the same, as far as I've seen. Owned three pairs and spent a lot of time shopping them.
The Palladiums we see on the streets are more or less fashion "boots" as of now. AFAIK, French army (not 100% sure) uses Palladiums or similar, made by military equipment manufacturers, with all the specs required it to be actually used by the military.
[Insert review no one really asked for.] I've had three pairs, and I've mostly liked them. I think the Chuck+Combat boot=Palladium is dead on, and what I've told a lot of people over the years (and seen other people say too). I like a really minimal shoe, which was initially what drew me to them. But I also wanted something I could tromp around in the woods in. Despite having the look of a light combat boot, they actually do allow you to feel the ground pretty well. I actually have used mine for hiking, quite a bit actually. I think they work just fine, and would for most people -- but it's also going to depend on what your feet are like and what kind of terrain you're in. Again, I like a really minimal shoe. I'm barefoot a lot, but I think most "barefoot" shoes are stupid. Too much support wouldn't feel good to me. But in the woods they've held up fine. I even taught outdoor ed for a while, and they got a lot of heavy wear through that. Not waterproof, though can be waxed (with varying success) -- but they dry out fast, which is nice. But they *do* kind of suck on rocky terrain. I never had anything poke through the soles, but you can definitely feel pointy rocks on the bottom of your feet. Otherwises, the soles have held up just fine. The one thing I have always hated: Rocks will get stuck in the large gaps in the heel, and pretty often. Also, the insoles suck and compress down to nothing/wear holes in them pretty fast. I just replaced mine with some department store "work" insoles, and those have held up well. Also chewed through the laces at one point, but I just replaced those with paracord, which has worked well. First pair, I wore the crap out of for a few years. After the break in they were really comfortable, and I loved how lightweight they were. Eventually the canvas wore holes in it where my toes bend. Then I bought two pairs -- another canvas, a half size smaller, and a pair of leather ones, which I thought would last longer. I stopped wearing the canvas pretty soon after. The half size smaller was a bad idea. I thought it would reduce the material "bunching" and maybe not wear thin, but they are simply too small. They run pretty true to size, I think. The leather ones are only just now wearing out. The canvas liner wore out a little over a year ago, I guess, so I just tore that out so it's bare leather on the inside. The problem is that because they're not stitched, the glue eventually gave out. So I've been rocking them with a pretty large hole where the glue detached between the sole and the leather upper for quite a while. The sole has gone smooth under the ball of my foot, but hasn't worn through. But for grip in snow/ice they've become pretty awful (and honestly weren't great for that to start). If they were constructed a little better, I might go with another pair -- but for now, I'm moving on. But for what they are, they're not a bad choice. If what you want is an all terrain Chuck Taylor, they serve that role pretty well. Toe box is also a little wider than Chucks, which is nice. You can find them online for about $50, and I've gotten several years out of them.
Great review, although I'm curious as to why you would wear them with the hole instead of just regluing the shoe where you explained the issue had occured? You explain that they're not stitched, but rather glued, which would make an exceptionally EASY fix. Usng any sort of heavier construction type glue(couple bucks at best)to take care of the separation and having a hole no longer. Of course you shouldn't have to do that assuming that they hold up as they're suppose to. You seem intelligent, so I just had to ask lol. Thanks!
@@brandonhaines1636 Very little surface area and not a good way to make sure the glue was going to bind well. They were really quite well worn out at that point, too.
I wear these all the time, and you are exactly right about the use case. They look great, they are comfortable and weigh nothing. I wouldn't wear them for serious hiking, but most of the time I'm just hiking to my desk. I have a bad ankle and these are more or less the only thing that I can wear all day and walk around without my ankle swelling up. Maybe because they are so light. Love the channel.
Same! I had a major knee injury and second degree sprained ankle at the same time and both my knee (which has permanent issues now) and that ankle that tends to swell up easily feel super supported in these shoes. They're basically all I wear now.
If you did more search about the brand, you'll know Palladium boots are not to explore or use in nature, but instead their a brand for urban exploration as they call it. So their products are made for the everyday use on the city
Never heard of these before. Love learning about new brands, so thanks! By the way, vetiver is a grass that grows in India. It's often used in perfumes and, I believe, medicine.
Go to wish.com. the knockoffs are made the same way and are made in China (same place) for $15.00. I bought a pair of the knock offs. They feel awesome! Very comfy. Do You like oldschool converse skate sneakers? If so then its just like that but with a bit of tread. Flexible comfortable and if you step on a rock you feel it! Not good for rocks but great for flat wooded areas. Get bees wax and linseed oil. Rub that on those boots and waterproof them. Good stuff dude!
As a fan of both this Channel & Palladium I really enjoyed this! :) I'd REALLY like to see you open up an all-leather pair, specifically the 'PALLABOSSE OFF LEA' since leather is your specialty & they seem the most different to standard Palladiums.
Thanks for this awesome video! I live in South Africa and use the higher ankle version of these as my hiking and river fishing shoes. They have the best grip on slippery wet rocks out of all the options Ive tried but the main reason I like them is that they dry quickly and dont get stinky. The toe cap does a great job of protecting your toes from constantly knocking against underwater rocks that you cant see. My advice is to buy these 1 size up from your normal size if you use them for hiking - then your toes dont smash into the front on downhills. You can also really customize the tightness of fit by how you do up the laces. Ive used them for years and havnt had anything poke through or split the sole. When you wear them, the soles feel pretty thick and protective despite actually being really thin in places as your video has revealed.
As a kid I had a pair of these. I absolutely adored it! I've searching for them since then, because they were so comfortable and I like the style too. Now I know how to search for them! Thank You!!
The boots are very similar to the PF Flyer Grounder, right down to being produced by an aircraft tire maker, BF Goodrich. Unfortunately I can't find the exact date PFF introduced the shoe or when they had a government contract. I would be curious to know which came first. Although considering that Palladium specifically created this design for the First Indochina War, it's likely they were all copying the "Liberation Shoes" originally made for China's red army, and used by most militaries in SE Asian due to the canvas holding up better than leather in tropical weather.
The reason foreign legion adopted these is because they dry out very fast in Southeast Asia and are super lightweight compare to their military boot counterparts. Especially during that period of time where everyone’s go to hiking/outdoor boots are made of heavy leather, these really did have their moments in the military. I’ve even seen pics of marines or soldiers(can’t remember) wearing these in gulf war
These are my go to for anything including travelling. I've hiked up trails in these been in the desert and more and they've never failed me. They also go well with a set of jeans IMO. Great all rounder
I have a pair and absolutely love how lightweight they are.. the converse/boot baby was a perfect analogy 👌 havnt had any problems with the sole, but i also havnt put them through alot of abused.
Ok here’s my story, I live in a warm place (Tenerife) and initially found the desert boot from Decathlon (French sports store, all over Europe). The boots look exactly same as the palladium’s albeit in khaki. They only cost 29€ and where incredibly comfortable, light and kept my feet cool. I loved the style too. Like a timeless classic. The sole was of neoprene and felt amazing on the rubber sole. I soon found out that Palladium was the original and purchased a pair, same as your video. I was a fair bit disappointed, they where nowhere near as comfortable and felt like just canvas with some rubber, way heavier too. They just didn’t feel right. The one thing with the decathlon boot was that the canvas material separated from the rubber sole easily. All 3 pairs have holes but at 29€ each and so comfortable it was totally worth it. Thats the only weak spot of the decathlon’s.
I wear my paladium boots as an all around for summer, as they breath nicely. The rubber is surprisingly resilient and after 5 years the heel is only now starting to show wear. I do remember standing on many rocks when hiking, but the lugs are so big that very little actually touches the thinner rubber. I put them away during the winter since ankle high snow guaranteed to seep water through canvas, and feet get cold.
I think Palladium has some quality control issues because some people like you have worn you boots for 5 years and they're holding up but some people are reporting holes in the canvas after the first month
@@sytricka3318 the one I got is the original design, which makes it a little bulky. They have however released many boots that are geared more towards fashion, and feel a lot more flimsy. However even with their fashion boots, they still advertise them with having that combat boot lineage.
I think they have some with water resistant materials. In that case I will say it’s pretty good if you’re looking for some converse type shoes but looks a lil bit more rugged to walk around even when it’s raining.
Having been in the French Marines in the Caribbean, being allowed to wear these after completing boot camp was one of my most relieving memories. Combat boots (rangers) are great but you fully understand the etymology of “boot camp” by knowing it is intended to break you to your combat boot as much as the other way around. The Palladiums, or pataugas generically, felt like slippers and breath a lot better for dicking around the base. Sure, don’t wear them crossing the mangrove, but it’s less casual than flip flops. My two cents. Edit: So apparently Pataugas is a brand name and they still make the same army boots among other shoes. Go check them out: pataugas.com
They are excellent street wear boots, I think that's why they're so popular in San Francisco. I have 3 pairs of palladiums (all the fold-over/baggy style boots in 3 different colors), I've been wearing them for 3 years and they all look and feel good as new. I've never had any other shoe that has lasted me more than 6 months of regular wear without falling apart so finding these was a revolution for me. My palladiums do an incredible job of supporting my arches, my bad ankles and my bad knees. I'm a former ballet dancer and acrobat with major injuries, highly unstable joints and a ton of flexibility and these shoes are simply the best fit for my needs. Plus, the black pair that I have look good with anything from my working/business attire, to work out clothes, to my more punk-ish street wear. I usually wear the heels off of my boots entirely (I have docs that look like total flats now) and I always wear a hole through the rubber soles around the balls of my feet but somehow my palladiums stay magically untouched even though I wear them almost every day, they soles don't look worn in the slightest. IDK what it is about them, it's like they were just made for the way I walk.
From my research the palladiums that are made in china have quality issues. The ones made in Vietnam seem to be better quality. I have two pairs a pamapa hi originale and pampa hi lite packn both made in vietnam i have hiked in the pampa hi originale many times the sole has not been an issue for me. Enjoyed the video.
I never heard of that brand before, and I'm French. French are bad at marketing... I'm disappointed that it's made in China. There are not a lot of French brands that I know of (outside of luxury items), and I would have considered buying a pair to support them and because I like the looks, but only if they were made in France. Bragging about being "Founded in Lyon" is a bit hypocritical ... As for "VETIVER", I had to search for myself, so I'm sharing what I found :) I suppose it comes from the "Vétiver" plant : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9tiver And for the pronunciation : translate.google.com/?hl=fr#view=home&op=translate&sl=fr&tl=en&text=V%C3%A9tiver
I tossed my old pair but still wear my waterproofs, never had any quality issues with them. That being said I’ve walked and explored cities and stood at concerts and my feet hurt the next day. So while they are stylish they also aren’t comfortable for all day wear.
It would be neat to see some of the indestructible shoes that are being heavily advertised on RUclips cut apart, especially the ones with the kevlar layer and the waterproof upper.
I've had a pair of these for over 10 years now and wore them all over the world. I literally take them every time I go anywhere. They are super comfortable, after a breaking in period as others have noted. What I love most about them is the way the canvas picks up dirt, dust, whatever from every place you take them. So after 10 years, these boots literally have my history of the last decade ground into the canvas. It's changed their color, and I love them for being a piece of wearable personal history. Only now, 10 years later, have I started to have any issues with them. The laces finally broke, and part of the toe cap rubber is detached from the canvas. The orange inserts long since wore away from friction with my feet, and the canvas is starting to wear through on the inside. But the entire bottom tread is basically as solid as the day I bought them. I've never had it puncture, and it hasn't even really worn down at all. Because of the personal history, I asked Palladium if they would repair them, but the company is apparently not in that game. I'm getting new laces and I'll probably wear them until the wheels come off, which I expect may not be for another decade.
I love these boots if you can find them on sale. I got my current pallabrouse for about 45 USD because I wanted "tough-enough" boots that were comfortable in the very hot and humid South Florida weather. Nothing too rugged, but I often had to run around on rubble, gravel, and broken glass and these were fine for that, but I will note gravel gets stuck in the treads constantly for whatever reason. Also, totally not a practical consideration except for maybe a security guard, but these are the only boots I feel I could properly kick someone in... so if you're some martial arts outcast constantly fighting off assailants on the wild streets of Dagestan maybe these are the boots for you lol
I have used these boots in all kinds of adverse environments. All over the World, and all over the USA. I've worn these boots for over 12 years. Worn them in Afghanistan as a defense contractor for the U.S. DOD. I've worn these boots in the Arizona desert. I've hiked with these boots. I've used them walking over every kind of surface (Lots of jagged rocks)....NEVER has the soul ever split! I still have a couple pairs that I've worn the lugs almost off, and I still wear them. ALSO....the canvas has never come off of the soul. It really tells you something when the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) Elite Forces wear them. I'm not affiliated or paid to put this comment down. I LOVE THE BOOTS!!!!!
I have had very similar experiences with my Pampa Hi (Arizona desert, Defense Contractor). I’ve also done quite a bit of backpacking in humid subtropical climate zones in my Pampa Hi boots. I love them. My only complaint is pebbles getting stuck between the treads of outsole.
Can you explain why boots in general fit half to 1 size larger than the average sneaker? Not a frequent boot wearer but when I do I noticed they are generally a larger and would like to know your opinion of that matter!!
This was the most interesting 5 minute video I’ve ever watched on RUclips. I always saw one guy wearing these around my college campus and thought they were for hiking.
By far the best single footwear for backpacking any temperate to warm climate. You can use to walk around town, in fashioable malls, with jeans. You can hike mild to moderate terrains. It is water repellent enough for most non-tropical rains. It’s comfortable enoigh to wear all day. Breathable enough to wear all day without smelling. Size is flexible enough to wear with thick socks for Coker climate. Basically the best single shoe ya could have for the said temp range and most general use.
I have a pair of Pampa SC Shadow Waterproof boots. They're definitely comfortable to wear for long periods of time. The waterproofing is fantastic, but there's absolutely no insulation inside. I could feel the cold snow through the soles and the upper, but my feet always stayed dry.
I bought a pair a few years ago for some light summer boots to work in. What junk. No shank, so no support. Very little cushion, so no comfort. I threw them away before the texturing on the sole lugs wore smooth. I think a pair of Chuck Taylor hi-tops would have been better. Lesson learned.
you know P.F. had a sshoe similar to this called the P.F. Grounder it was that sorta chuck-esque canvas hi top style but with more of a rugged lug style sole, unfortunately its been a while since theyve made any grounders but these seem like a decent alternative for that basically a canvas high top sneaker with a tad more tread for the summer park trails
I own real 50s french army "pataugas" as is the umbrella term for these boots. They were made by multiple different contractors and old pairs are real tanks. Absolutely nothing in common with these current ones. Except aesthetics to a degree.
I had the Baggy Hi for five years. They worked well working and running all around Macy's Herald Square and parts of Midtown. The sole lasted longer than expected, shoe lace changes, and had they dyed after they faded. I discarded them after being too raggedy. As you mentioned, I loved the boot look with the lightweight feel of a Converse sneaker (and just like Converse, I had holes in them.)
for sat the 20th you should cut the superstar all leather adidas ultraboost to see if that $200 price tag was worth it at launch. its on sale for 160 now so its a great time to buy before stocks run out.
I have 5 pairs of palladium in different colors, its my all time favorite, so comfy as i have very sensitive feet & a certain medical case. Very durable, i wear it in all seasons, i do hiking with it. I'm surprized of your review vs. the converse review. Converse is one of the most uncomfortable shoes i ever tried, they're extremly painful with their rubber narrow fit.
I have had three pairs of these boots. I must say they are fantastic and really light. They tend to last full all year use for me for about 5 years, both city and trail hiking. The only downside is their waterproofing, they get heavy when wet if not properly done. They obviously don't have the same protection as a full leather boot, but similar to the paleteo rule these kind of work similar to 20% of your shoes for 80% of the activities. For me these tend to be used instead of sneakers or trail shoes the secret is to waterproof them well with Hubbert's shoe grease or similar, like lanolin to make a tin cloth.
Ran a handful of miles in chucks one time and it was punishing. Keeping that in mind I look at these things and cringe a little when I think of doing anything besides light trails
I had a pair of these I wore more or less every day for 2 years, including 5 days canoeing in Scotland and many miles in woods and on the moors. In the end the canvas wore through where the toes creased and the soles wore down. Outstanding durability by my standards 👍
Love them. About to buy my fourth or fifth pair, the most recent of which has lasted at least 18 months. They're the only shoe I've worn in that time. I bounce in them from hospitality work (bar, waiting tables, bussing, so some kitchen treading), to commuting via bicycle, to walking along riverside nature paths, to painting murals, to shooting hoops casually on an outdoor basketball court (no intense running). I've stayed upright on icy roads, traversed airports and climbed a heck of a lotta stairs in them. This recent pair is the Baggy version, though I think they're of similar construction. The only curiosity for me is that with every pair I've had, the canvas material breaks through on the right-hand side heel, which may be attributed to the way I walk or ride a bicycle. Previously, a cobbler reinforced this heel section with a strip of leather to extend the life of the shoe. Now that part of the canvas around the big toe joint has worn through on my current pair, it's time to replace. The sole has only ever split on the fourth pair -- AFTER 18 months of being the ONLY shoe. I'm not sure if I stepped on something sharp (it's a strangely-shaped slice), but the rubber is pretty worn and smooth after a year a half of daily use anyway. I've never expressed all this about the shoe before, to anyone. I wish this was a paid review so that Palladium would engineer me a free pair of right-hand side heel, reinforced boots hahaja. Thanks, Rose Anvil, for the video - it's super. Cheers.
So are these just a cemented construction? I own 4 pairs and I thought that Palladium used to advertise them as having a patented hot weld rubber construction. Although I dont see any info on their website about that any more. Maybe im wrong.
I have the shoe version pf those boots, with what they call their "paradrop" insole. They accommodate wider feet, and are perfect for summer imho. They squeak all the time for me because of the insole though.... and small rocks getting caught in them can be a nightmare.
I have the suede version of that boot and they’re the best footwear I’ve ever had. I actually hike in them rather rigorously, and wear them multiple times a day. They are comfortable to wear ALL day, and after over a year they don’t show any signs of sole/fabric separation. I am just starting to see little bits of material removed from the outsole, mostly on the toe, but overall the haven’t worn. They’re perfect and much more durable than this video led me to believe!
I’ve had three pair of these boots, worn them year round in the heat of the desert southwest US. Had some issues with build quality on the second pair, the adhesive was sloppy. This third pair has been with me since 2015 and they’re in great shape. I confess I did toss the cheap insert for a more supportive one, but that’s the only change I’ve made.
I've had mine since I was about 14-15, and I'm almost 23 now. Mine are leather but they've lasted long. Haven't worn them every day but definitely worn them to the country side and worked with them like woodworking, gardening o house reforms.
keep in mind where these were worn... the French Foreign Legion was mostly based in North Africa, ie. the desert. It's basically an alternative to Clarks as a hot-temperature boot
I've had a pair of the waterproof version of these for a handful of years now and I absolutely love them. No, I wouldn't wear them for serious hiking or work, but when it gets super snowy in my city they're great for keeping my feet dry with a good amount of tread. They look good too. I'm thinking about getting another pair here soon.
I've had a pair and have worn them regularly for about 2 years. The outsole is fine and has worn uniformly down but I do hike in them and they have not been pierced. They were very uncomfortable until I put in some aftermarket insoles. Also the toe box is too narrow and they don't have a pull on loop. My combat boots have a bigger toe box so I wear them more in spite of them being heavier than the Palladium. Won't buy them again but I do like the canvas because it dries quickly.
I have owned a leather pair f I bought in SF for $130 for 5 years now. Very durable and comfy. Lifestyle boot for sure. I have not used them for hiking or anything related to work. I do recommend them.
I have a pair of old Palladium 'Tactical Plus' boots I've been wearing at the construction site (exterior concrete stuff), and they're not the worst boots I've ever worn. The soles have held up ok - that sole picks up rocks regularly, and at the range, you're taking home 9mm casings wether you like it or not! But the same soles are on my boots - I've stepped on nails and all sorts of stuff with no issue. They're OK boots. Mostly waterproof, not at all warm in the winter (Detroit Area). I wouldn't buy the same ones, but I might consider the more fashionable, canvas models in the future. Dig the channel. Hoping one day to see a breakdown of my only pair of decent boots - Danner Mountain Light II.
I have a pair of these at work and absolutely love them. I work in an automotive factory assembling interior panels, we don't work around heavy enough equipment to need a proper leather steel toed work boot, but I was never quite satisfied having to replace my sneakers every month or so. I got these boots and find them to be more comfortable than sneakers because it provides ankle support, but I did have to get a really good insole to make up for the thin sole. Yeah, I know they're just tactical converse, but I love my tactical converse
One year later update: I still wear Palladiums. I don't wear them at work anymore because I need something slip resistant now that I'm a janitor, but I own a pair of both the pampa hi originale and the pallabrousse legion. I use them mostly for casual boots, but also for fencing and HEMA. They get excellent traction on gym floors, while still being extremely lightweight. The reason I use those instead of sneakers, though, comes down to the fact that sometimes I will do HEMA outside in dirt or mud, and the thick lugs get excellent traction outdoors as well.
i have the "baggy" (fold over cuff) in black canvas, super super comfortable but only wear casually really. as someone who isn't really into boots but sometimes needs added grip and likes the look, I like them a lot. for me they're better than the other sneaker-boot type things i've tried for sure (vans mte, nike acg) once you hit em with some waterproofing
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The canvas tore after 6 years but I wore them whole year round ( cold winters and hot summers in Central Europe). My favourite boots ever
I used them for hiking during summer, holes appeared in the fabric after a month. Took them to have stitched up, more holes appeared at the second month, then I just threw them out.
That is very strange. I went hiking in these in Bieszczady mountains in Poland in the summer once an it was horrible. The soles are super shit and super soft. They ruined my knees after 20 km on the trail with a backpack.
@@MrSzczuras well, I wouldn’t go hiking in these 😅
@@MrSzczuras Yeah these just... aren't hiking boots, I don't know what to say. They're qualities are their comfort, style, and solid construction for what they are.
I love militarily fif when I put them on .
At times people ask wether I am a Militia. Nice shoes they are.
I've worn the same pair for about 4 years now, most comfortable shoes i own. I waxed the canvas aa a Diy and only had to sew one spot near the tongue, but you cannot compare the comfort to even my sneakers.
How's the width on these?
I've had the same experiences with them. Love em.
@@thesii213 Width is good. I do true to size and have a slightly wider foot. If you have a EE type foot you would want to size up at least a half
I still wear mine even if they busted near the all of my footmen deceptively comfortable and long lasting. Better investment than converse imo. Just dont wear them in the wet.
They were made so much better back in the day. I have a pair ove had for over 10 years. Amazing and comfy to walk and romp up mountains in. Sadly they said fuck good buisness were movin to china. They suck now.s a d
The side flanges are similar to ones you'd find in skate shoes and give support and comfort and help keep the foot in place to avoid it slipping around on the insole.
Or to keep the insole in place when removing a sweaty foot... just a guess
@Late to the Game But you can't see them, how are they for looks?
They’re also used for combat boots as well, otherwise known as a heel cup to stabilize the ball of our heel while on the move.
I’m a Potter working in Japan, and I wear it every day for working in the studio. I also wear it when doing the wood firing. The canvas started tearing after the 4th year, but it still works (6th year). It is comfortable, supports, and protects my feet better than Converse.
I think it suits those looking for carefree lightweight canvas ankle-high shoes that you can wear for an urban lifestyle to art and craft working.
I've been wearing Palladium boots for years. They are so comfortable and light. And yes, it's not a work boot or hiking boot. The use case from my perspective is that I prefer a boot type footwear in terms of style but you don't always want to be wearing a heavy thick boot. These are perfect for the warmth of summer, for urban walking, general life etc. They are the most comfortable and light weight boot style footwear I've worn, and I love them for that. I've never had a problem with the sole, I find them perfectly adequate for normal usage.
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I have a leather waterproof pair that I've worn infrequently for years and it seems like they still have a lot of life in them. A lot of Palladium marketing includes the word "sneakerboot" which is a great way to think about these - basically sneakers that look like boots. If that's your expectation you'll not be disappointed!
That's what I want, I guess that's a good sign! Thanks for the info!
For how many years have you wore them? Or owned. Just curious f they'll last 3-4 years
@@snezhanaanechkin9373 I was curious so I looked it up, and it turns out I've had them since 2013. Obviously they're thoroughly weathered now but still structurally great. I got them on a 50% off sale but full price would have still been a great value.
Yeah, that's how I've always thought of them: a higher sturdy canvas shoe.
@@snezhanaanechkin9373 I had a pair leather waterproof and a pair of leather non-waterproof one. The non waterproof are lighter than the waterproof one. Both were very comfy. The non waterproof leather Palladium was one of the most comfy shoes (not just boots) I've ever owned. HOWEVER, the vulcanized rubber sole were trash. The glue only lasted two years on both pairs.
These were a fashion trend here in South Africa once. Love the look of them
My ex wore them when we went on a trip to London. I told her she looks like a typical tourist 😂
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i think the weird orange flaps might prevent heel slippage? thats the only thing that makes sense to me
I find that once EVA compresses the insoles often slide around and they've lost volume. I think the orange flaps help to keep it in place long term.
It provides support around the heel and the arch, providing more stability to the foot. I think it might be the reason that I've never rolled an ankle in these boots.
you should design your own boot
he just did recently lol
I used to live in Southern Africa and these were my go to boot when I went out in the bush as they were light and kept my feet cool, never had any issues with the outsole.
Christian Kröhnert I think the only issue I have with outsole are the rocks that get stuck in the middle and heel tread. Other than my favorite boots. I think I have 8 different pairs.
Christian, same here! I live in South Africa and use these as my hiking and fishing boots - what I especially like is that they dry so quickly and dont get smelly. Only gripe I might have is small stones getting stuck in the tread pattern, but otherwise they fantastic. Ive tried a lot of other options.
@@IndependentVFX could you recommend a certain model. Can you say anything about the waxed ones.
@@johnrhodes3350 Hi John, Ive owned the models called "Pampa Hi" which is pretty much a high top ankle fit and then the "Pallabrouse Baggy" which goes higher up the leg like a military boot. The high top Pampa Hi fit is more comfortable, but the Pallabrouse Baggy gives way more stability and support. The pairs I own are all in a rugged cotton canvas fabric so I havnt tried the waxed versions.... but - I have had the thought of doing my own waxing which seems quite easy, there are loads of tutorial videos on waterproofing canvas shoes. If I had to choose one pair for outdoor use I'd go with the Pallabrouse Baggy I guess.
@@IndependentVFX thanks for the reply.. that's helpful.
I'd love to see a video about the regular Palladiums, which are called "Pampa Hi Originale". Would be intreresting to see if there's any difference.
No difference. The lug soles and basic construction of the boot varieties are all very similar. I don't know if there might be some difference in the durability or traction of the rubber material. The ones I have have not had good wet traction, which probably indicates poor traction on ice as well. But the trade-off is they are incredibly long-lasting, and surprisingly the souls have outlasted the upper.
They do have quite a few different styles some that have sneaker soles without lugs, and I don't know anything about the material used in those.
@@fieldlab4 Which boot would you suggest then? I just ordered two palladium boots for under £100. Timberland boots are £180 for example
@@gerwsgse Palladiums are good because they are simple, light, thin and dry out quickly. That's what the originals were designed to do. Also, Palladiums can be inexpensive. Personally, I only buy them on sale. I don't think canvas boots are worth $100. They could be worth more with different upper material, but canvas is my preference.
They do make cold and wet weather versions now that have a dust seal on the tongue (the cheaper original versions have a completely separate tongue that allows dirt and water past at the laces). The cold weather versions probably have a different rubber material for better traction in the wet. At least I hope they do. Some are also insulated or water proofed which also means they will not dry out nearly as fast when soaked.
Palladiums are cool but mostly an urban boot. They can be comfortable because they are thin and have less support. Most Timberlands are far more substantial boots, but Timberland might not dry out as fast when soaked. Timberland is the opposite idea from Palladium. It's hard to compare them.
@@fieldlab4 Haha I had a pair of palladiums in 2012/13 but they was 1 size too big for me but I still wore them all throughout college. They seemed to hold up pretty well and ended up reselling them recently. But I’ve just ordered original baggy and a green pair with a zipper. For like £97. Will do the job hopefully
Now you should cut those converse boots in half! The converse "lugged" gore-tex
@ebisumaru are you talking about the mc18 ones?
@@aniqanuar6320 I actually wasn't talking about the mc18s but I would love that too
Owned a pair for just under a year, super comfy. Have used them for hiking and work (at a greenhouse). Never had problems with the sole. Gave me a blister when I first got them, only footwear to have done that, a week in they were way more comfy.
I’ve had a pair of the leather version with insulation for about four years now - I mostly use them as winter beater boots when I don’t want to tread through deep snow, slush, and salt with my nicer boots. Never had an issue with the sole breaking and it does take a long time for it to wear down, and it’s also very grippy in snow. They’re definitely not the most comfortable or well made, but for a pair of boots you can throw on and not care what happens to them I have to say they’re probably the best in that regard.
The orange flanges are when your wearing socks and your foot slips around. Since the foam isn't as slippy as the canvas, its sort of to minimize slipping.
I'm guessing these are the lowest end Palladiums you could get. I wonder if the high end ones are more robust in the sole. I have an old baggy gusset leather with the blue waterproof logo that retailed for like $150 almost a decade ago. I also have a newer cheaper leather version that is non-waterproof and worse in just about every way. Lining, leather, laces are all way lower quality.
Not really. I think they're all pretty much the same across the price range, unfortunately. Only real difference is materials and appearance. Soles are all the same, as far as I've seen. Owned three pairs and spent a lot of time shopping them.
The Palladiums we see on the streets are more or less fashion "boots" as of now. AFAIK, French army (not 100% sure) uses Palladiums or similar, made by military equipment manufacturers, with all the specs required it to be actually used by the military.
Definitely would love to see the pallakix ("pamba 2.0") or really any other palladiums tbh 🤔
I'm curious if the waterproof ones are the same? I have had 2 already and love those. Never felt the same comfort about the pampas...
I agree I wear the baggys and there much more robust in the sole than these I think with palladiums you get what you pay for
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I've had three pairs, and I've mostly liked them. I think the Chuck+Combat boot=Palladium is dead on, and what I've told a lot of people over the years (and seen other people say too).
I like a really minimal shoe, which was initially what drew me to them. But I also wanted something I could tromp around in the woods in.
Despite having the look of a light combat boot, they actually do allow you to feel the ground pretty well. I actually have used mine for hiking, quite a bit actually. I think they work just fine, and would for most people -- but it's also going to depend on what your feet are like and what kind of terrain you're in. Again, I like a really minimal shoe. I'm barefoot a lot, but I think most "barefoot" shoes are stupid. Too much support wouldn't feel good to me. But in the woods they've held up fine. I even taught outdoor ed for a while, and they got a lot of heavy wear through that. Not waterproof, though can be waxed (with varying success) -- but they dry out fast, which is nice.
But they *do* kind of suck on rocky terrain. I never had anything poke through the soles, but you can definitely feel pointy rocks on the bottom of your feet. Otherwises, the soles have held up just fine. The one thing I have always hated: Rocks will get stuck in the large gaps in the heel, and pretty often.
Also, the insoles suck and compress down to nothing/wear holes in them pretty fast. I just replaced mine with some department store "work" insoles, and those have held up well.
Also chewed through the laces at one point, but I just replaced those with paracord, which has worked well.
First pair, I wore the crap out of for a few years. After the break in they were really comfortable, and I loved how lightweight they were. Eventually the canvas wore holes in it where my toes bend.
Then I bought two pairs -- another canvas, a half size smaller, and a pair of leather ones, which I thought would last longer.
I stopped wearing the canvas pretty soon after. The half size smaller was a bad idea. I thought it would reduce the material "bunching" and maybe not wear thin, but they are simply too small. They run pretty true to size, I think.
The leather ones are only just now wearing out. The canvas liner wore out a little over a year ago, I guess, so I just tore that out so it's bare leather on the inside. The problem is that because they're not stitched, the glue eventually gave out. So I've been rocking them with a pretty large hole where the glue detached between the sole and the leather upper for quite a while.
The sole has gone smooth under the ball of my foot, but hasn't worn through. But for grip in snow/ice they've become pretty awful (and honestly weren't great for that to start).
If they were constructed a little better, I might go with another pair -- but for now, I'm moving on. But for what they are, they're not a bad choice. If what you want is an all terrain Chuck Taylor, they serve that role pretty well. Toe box is also a little wider than Chucks, which is nice.
You can find them online for about $50, and I've gotten several years out of them.
randomOAS7 I need a wider toe box... miss my Chucks so much! Thanks for the observation 👌🏼
Wearing my pompas today! They are wonderful!
pretty much dead on, theyre like chucks for people who are outdoors alot. the grip pattern on them is weird but works for the area im in
Great review, although I'm curious as to why you would wear them with the hole instead of just regluing the shoe where you explained the issue had occured? You explain that they're not stitched, but rather glued, which would make an exceptionally EASY fix. Usng any sort of heavier construction type glue(couple bucks at best)to take care of the separation and having a hole no longer. Of course you shouldn't have to do that assuming that they hold up as they're suppose to. You seem intelligent, so I just had to ask lol. Thanks!
@@brandonhaines1636 Very little surface area and not a good way to make sure the glue was going to bind well. They were really quite well worn out at that point, too.
I wear these all the time, and you are exactly right about the use case. They look great, they are comfortable and weigh nothing. I wouldn't wear them for serious hiking, but most of the time I'm just hiking to my desk. I have a bad ankle and these are more or less the only thing that I can wear all day and walk around without my ankle swelling up. Maybe because they are so light. Love the channel.
Same! I had a major knee injury and second degree sprained ankle at the same time and both my knee (which has permanent issues now) and that ankle that tends to swell up easily feel super supported in these shoes. They're basically all I wear now.
If you did more search about the brand, you'll know Palladium boots are not to explore or use in nature, but instead their a brand for urban exploration as they call it. So their products are made for the everyday use on the city
Never heard of these before. Love learning about new brands, so thanks! By the way, vetiver is a grass that grows in India. It's often used in perfumes and, I believe, medicine.
Go to wish.com. the knockoffs are made the same way and are made in China (same place) for $15.00. I bought a pair of the knock offs. They feel awesome! Very comfy. Do You like oldschool converse skate sneakers? If so then its just like that but with a bit of tread. Flexible comfortable and if you step on a rock you feel it! Not good for rocks but great for flat wooded areas. Get bees wax and linseed oil. Rub that on those boots and waterproof them. Good stuff dude!
As a fan of both this Channel & Palladium I really enjoyed this! :) I'd REALLY like to see you open up an all-leather pair, specifically the 'PALLABOSSE OFF LEA' since leather is your specialty & they seem the most different to standard Palladiums.
They don't make them anymore at least I've trying to find that style for months now
@@kakashisensei2716 Damn, that sucks. I love mine & wanted to get them in black too.
Thanks for this awesome video! I live in South Africa and use the higher ankle version of these as my hiking and river fishing shoes. They have the best grip on slippery wet rocks out of all the options Ive tried but the main reason I like them is that they dry quickly and dont get stinky. The toe cap does a great job of protecting your toes from constantly knocking against underwater rocks that you cant see. My advice is to buy these 1 size up from your normal size if you use them for hiking - then your toes dont smash into the front on downhills. You can also really customize the tightness of fit by how you do up the laces.
Ive used them for years and havnt had anything poke through or split the sole. When you wear them, the soles feel pretty thick and protective despite actually being really thin in places as your video has revealed.
Loved my Palladiums when I traveled Africa and Asia for 12 months. Like a durable pair of Chuck Taylor’s that keeps you outbof the worst street grime
As a kid I had a pair of these. I absolutely adored it! I've searching for them since then, because they were so comfortable and I like the style too. Now I know how to search for them! Thank You!!
I actually own a suede pair of these, really comfy and long lasting.
What's it like stepping on rocks or other pokey things?
How many years do you on them already?
This might be an unusual question, but what glasses are you wearing? I really like em.
Was thinking the same thing
Pebbles love getting stuck in those soles but never had problems with them tearing. They're way comfier than chucks that's why I prefer these.
I feel like I'm tap dancing walking down the street with rocks clicking away in my tread. Love the boots though.
Same 😂 i'm tap dancing every time i wear mine 😂
The boots are very similar to the PF Flyer Grounder, right down to being produced by an aircraft tire maker, BF Goodrich. Unfortunately I can't find the exact date PFF introduced the shoe or when they had a government contract. I would be curious to know which came first. Although considering that Palladium specifically created this design for the First Indochina War, it's likely they were all copying the "Liberation Shoes" originally made for China's red army, and used by most militaries in SE Asian due to the canvas holding up better than leather in tropical weather.
The reason foreign legion adopted these is because they dry out very fast in Southeast Asia and are super lightweight compare to their military boot counterparts. Especially during that period of time where everyone’s go to hiking/outdoor boots are made of heavy leather, these really did have their moments in the military. I’ve even seen pics of marines or soldiers(can’t remember) wearing these in gulf war
These are my go to for anything including travelling. I've hiked up trails in these been in the desert and more and they've never failed me. They also go well with a set of jeans IMO. Great all rounder
People who actually hike in them all seem to think they’re a great hiking boot! I agree.
I have a pair and absolutely love how lightweight they are.. the converse/boot baby was a perfect analogy 👌 havnt had any problems with the sole, but i also havnt put them through alot of abused.
Palladium is really an underrated brand. Their boots are very comfy and long lasting. Also some of the designs are quite dope.
boots* designs*
@Traveller huh
I am glad you mentioned Converse because that is the first thing that came to mind when I saw the. The short and sweet video was perfect for these
doesnt look as long lasting with that construction, maybe more expensive models...
@@MikeleKonstantyFiedorowiczIV they do leather boots too
I want some of these now they just look really cool, and seem interesting
Ever thought about doing a pair of Rick Owens Geobaskets?
I would love to see that,kinda too expensive though
@@AlexToma I mean there are some for only like £600 and he's done a pair of $500 dollar boots before too so I'm hoping he sees this
Yes please
At least these Palladiums have proper outsole, unlike modern day Doc Martens with their thin as soles.
Proper outsole? A dull thumbtack is going to go right into your foot.
@@swankybubbles77 Worn mine for years, nothing every poked through. Pointy rocks are certainly uncomfortable, though.
randomOAS7 you lucked out
This is a well known alternative for high end fashion shoes like the ones sold by rick Owen's and raf Simons
I have several pairs, I’ve even bought 2nd hand & they hold up pretty well. They’re very comfortable & I haven’t noticed any wear issues.
These also compeat as vegan footwear. I have recently been thinking about drMarenes' canvas series as a good vegan option
Man I'm vegan, but I messed up a couple weeks ago and bought some Doc Marten desert boots on a whim. The guilt, man...the guilt....
Ok here’s my story, I live in a warm place (Tenerife) and initially found the desert boot from Decathlon (French sports store, all over Europe). The boots look exactly same as the palladium’s albeit in khaki. They only cost 29€ and where incredibly comfortable, light and kept my feet cool. I loved the style too. Like a timeless classic. The sole was of neoprene and felt amazing on the rubber sole.
I soon found out that Palladium was the original and purchased a pair, same as your video.
I was a fair bit disappointed, they where nowhere near as comfortable and felt like just canvas with some rubber, way heavier too. They just didn’t feel right. The one thing with the decathlon boot was that the canvas material separated from the rubber sole easily. All 3 pairs have holes but at 29€ each and so comfortable it was totally worth it. Thats the only weak spot of the decathlon’s.
I wear my paladium boots as an all around for summer, as they breath nicely. The rubber is surprisingly resilient and after 5 years the heel is only now starting to show wear. I do remember standing on many rocks when hiking, but the lugs are so big that very little actually touches the thinner rubber. I put them away during the winter since ankle high snow guaranteed to seep water through canvas, and feet get cold.
I think Palladium has some quality control issues because some people like you have worn you boots for 5 years and they're holding up but some people are reporting holes in the canvas after the first month
@@sytricka3318 the one I got is the original design, which makes it a little bulky. They have however released many boots that are geared more towards fashion, and feel a lot more flimsy. However even with their fashion boots, they still advertise them with having that combat boot lineage.
I think they have some with water resistant materials. In that case I will say it’s pretty good if you’re looking for some converse type shoes but looks a lil bit more rugged to walk around even when it’s raining.
Having been in the French Marines in the Caribbean, being allowed to wear these after completing boot camp was one of my most relieving memories. Combat boots (rangers) are great but you fully understand the etymology of “boot camp” by knowing it is intended to break you to your combat boot as much as the other way around.
The Palladiums, or pataugas generically, felt like slippers and breath a lot better for dicking around the base. Sure, don’t wear them crossing the mangrove, but it’s less casual than flip flops.
My two cents.
Edit: So apparently Pataugas is a brand name and they still make the same army boots among other shoes. Go check them out: pataugas.com
They are excellent street wear boots, I think that's why they're so popular in San Francisco. I have 3 pairs of palladiums (all the fold-over/baggy style boots in 3 different colors), I've been wearing them for 3 years and they all look and feel good as new. I've never had any other shoe that has lasted me more than 6 months of regular wear without falling apart so finding these was a revolution for me. My palladiums do an incredible job of supporting my arches, my bad ankles and my bad knees. I'm a former ballet dancer and acrobat with major injuries, highly unstable joints and a ton of flexibility and these shoes are simply the best fit for my needs. Plus, the black pair that I have look good with anything from my working/business attire, to work out clothes, to my more punk-ish street wear. I usually wear the heels off of my boots entirely (I have docs that look like total flats now) and I always wear a hole through the rubber soles around the balls of my feet but somehow my palladiums stay magically untouched even though I wear them almost every day, they soles don't look worn in the slightest. IDK what it is about them, it's like they were just made for the way I walk.
"That's gonna split your outsole". Ouch.
Nazib Beedassy Sole ? I have no sole!
I wish popular New Balance 990v5 cut to see technologies. Push my comment for support.
I have had mine for over 5 years, however I don't use see them as boots but instead as high top sneakers.
From my research the palladiums that are made in china have quality issues. The ones made in Vietnam seem to be better quality. I have two pairs a pamapa hi originale and pampa hi lite packn both made in vietnam i have hiked in the pampa hi originale many times the sole has not been an issue for me. Enjoyed the video.
I never heard of that brand before, and I'm French. French are bad at marketing...
I'm disappointed that it's made in China. There are not a lot of French brands that I know of (outside of luxury items), and I would have considered buying a pair to support them and because I like the looks, but only if they were made in France. Bragging about being "Founded in Lyon" is a bit hypocritical ...
As for "VETIVER", I had to search for myself, so I'm sharing what I found :) I suppose it comes from the "Vétiver" plant : fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A9tiver
And for the pronunciation : translate.google.com/?hl=fr#view=home&op=translate&sl=fr&tl=en&text=V%C3%A9tiver
I have a palladium. Made in vietnam
Tire companies in France ended up making shoes, tire companies in the US ended up making space craft…
I tossed my old pair but still wear my waterproofs, never had any quality issues with them. That being said I’ve walked and explored cities and stood at concerts and my feet hurt the next day. So while they are stylish they also aren’t comfortable for all day wear.
It would be neat to see some of the indestructible shoes that are being heavily advertised on RUclips cut apart, especially the ones with the kevlar layer and the waterproof upper.
The real question is - Are these good for defending desert forts against hordes of angry Tuaregs?
no.. they're not a boot for fighting..
I mean.. they are french after all..
@@ontheslide2339 LOL
Yes.
@@ontheslide2339 No FAMAS for you!
I've had a pair of these for over 10 years now and wore them all over the world. I literally take them every time I go anywhere. They are super comfortable, after a breaking in period as others have noted. What I love most about them is the way the canvas picks up dirt, dust, whatever from every place you take them. So after 10 years, these boots literally have my history of the last decade ground into the canvas. It's changed their color, and I love them for being a piece of wearable personal history.
Only now, 10 years later, have I started to have any issues with them. The laces finally broke, and part of the toe cap rubber is detached from the canvas. The orange inserts long since wore away from friction with my feet, and the canvas is starting to wear through on the inside. But the entire bottom tread is basically as solid as the day I bought them. I've never had it puncture, and it hasn't even really worn down at all. Because of the personal history, I asked Palladium if they would repair them, but the company is apparently not in that game. I'm getting new laces and I'll probably wear them until the wheels come off, which I expect may not be for another decade.
I love these boots if you can find them on sale. I got my current pallabrouse for about 45 USD because I wanted "tough-enough" boots that were comfortable in the very hot and humid South Florida weather. Nothing too rugged, but I often had to run around on rubble, gravel, and broken glass and these were fine for that, but I will note gravel gets stuck in the treads constantly for whatever reason.
Also, totally not a practical consideration except for maybe a security guard, but these are the only boots I feel I could properly kick someone in... so if you're some martial arts outcast constantly fighting off assailants on the wild streets of Dagestan maybe these are the boots for you lol
I traveled with a pair of Palladium in India for 4 months, they were easy to wash and pack. I loved them!
I have used these boots in all kinds of adverse environments.
All over the World, and all over the USA.
I've worn these boots for over 12 years.
Worn them in Afghanistan as a defense contractor for the U.S. DOD.
I've worn these boots in the Arizona desert. I've hiked with these boots. I've used them walking over every kind of surface (Lots of jagged rocks)....NEVER has the soul ever split! I still have a couple pairs that I've worn the lugs almost off, and I still wear them.
ALSO....the canvas has never come off of the soul.
It really tells you something when the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) Elite Forces wear them.
I'm not affiliated or paid to put this comment down.
I LOVE THE BOOTS!!!!!
I have had very similar experiences with my Pampa Hi (Arizona desert, Defense Contractor). I’ve also done quite a bit of backpacking in humid subtropical climate zones in my Pampa Hi boots. I love them. My only complaint is pebbles getting stuck between the treads of outsole.
Pretty much exclusively wear Palladium. I have had one pair for 3 years and I wore through some of the canvas. But I was able to patch it up myself.
Ive been wearing a pair of these going on 5 years. They are not boots they are sneakers but they are fantastic sneakers.
Can you explain why boots in general fit half to 1 size larger than the average sneaker? Not a frequent boot wearer but when I do I noticed they are generally a larger and would like to know your opinion of that matter!!
I had a pair back in the early 90's. I believe they were still made in France back then. They lasted 10+ years!
These look like boot chucks
Jack McOrrie although better made than converse equivalent,.. the chuck boots were wide and uncomfortable on me.
Looks more like a $20 boot, not $75
For twenty dollars you can get a pair of socks,not boots though.
This was the most interesting 5 minute video I’ve ever watched on RUclips. I always saw one guy wearing these around my college campus and thought they were for hiking.
By far the best single footwear for backpacking any temperate to warm climate.
You can use to walk around town, in fashioable malls, with jeans.
You can hike mild to moderate terrains.
It is water repellent enough for most non-tropical rains. It’s comfortable enoigh to wear all day. Breathable enough to wear all day without smelling. Size is flexible enough to wear with thick socks for Coker climate.
Basically the best single shoe ya could have for the said temp range and most general use.
I have a pair of Pampa SC Shadow Waterproof boots. They're definitely comfortable to wear for long periods of time. The waterproofing is fantastic, but there's absolutely no insulation inside. I could feel the cold snow through the soles and the upper, but my feet always stayed dry.
Not a fan. Got a pair 2 years ago cause they looked good but the sharp heel made walking feel clunky, so not very comfortable.
I bought a pair a few years ago for some light summer boots to work in. What junk. No shank, so no support. Very little cushion, so no comfort. I threw them away before the texturing on the sole lugs wore smooth. I think a pair of Chuck Taylor hi-tops would have been better. Lesson learned.
first shoes that i really like (from outside)
They are super comfy but I was hiking and a cactus needle went right through the sole 😂
you know P.F. had a sshoe similar to this called the P.F. Grounder it was that sorta chuck-esque canvas hi top style but with more of a rugged lug style sole, unfortunately its been a while since theyve made any grounders but these seem like a decent alternative for that basically a canvas high top sneaker with a tad more tread for the summer park trails
Please do a video about Demonia shoes
it's a fashion boot... and yes it looks sketchy... but it is actually very durable, maybe it's not about the thickness but the type of the rubber?
I own real 50s french army "pataugas" as is the umbrella term for these boots. They were made by multiple different contractors and old pairs are real tanks.
Absolutely nothing in common with these current ones. Except aesthetics to a degree.
I had the Baggy Hi for five years. They worked well working and running all around Macy's Herald Square and parts of Midtown. The sole lasted longer than expected, shoe lace changes, and had they dyed after they faded. I discarded them after being too raggedy. As you mentioned, I loved the boot look with the lightweight feel of a Converse sneaker (and just like Converse, I had holes in them.)
for sat the 20th you should cut the superstar all leather adidas ultraboost to see if that $200 price tag was worth it at launch. its on sale for 160 now so its a great time to buy before stocks run out.
I have 5 pairs of palladium in different colors, its my all time favorite, so comfy as i have very sensitive feet & a certain medical case. Very durable, i wear it in all seasons, i do hiking with it. I'm surprized of your review vs. the converse review. Converse is one of the most uncomfortable shoes i ever tried, they're extremly painful with their rubber narrow fit.
I have had three pairs of these boots. I must say they are fantastic and really light. They tend to last full all year use for me for about 5 years, both city and trail hiking. The only downside is their waterproofing, they get heavy when wet if not properly done. They obviously don't have the same protection as a full leather boot, but similar to the paleteo rule these kind of work similar to 20% of your shoes for 80% of the activities. For me these tend to be used instead of sneakers or trail shoes the secret is to waterproof them well with Hubbert's shoe grease or similar, like lanolin to make a tin cloth.
Ran a handful of miles in chucks one time and it was punishing. Keeping that in mind I look at these things and cringe a little when I think of doing anything besides light trails
Review the Mephisto Marlon
I had a pair of these I wore more or less every day for 2 years, including 5 days canoeing in Scotland and many miles in woods and on the moors. In the end the canvas wore through where the toes creased and the soles wore down. Outstanding durability by my standards 👍
Love them. About to buy my fourth or fifth pair, the most recent of which has lasted at least 18 months. They're the only shoe I've worn in that time. I bounce in them from hospitality work (bar, waiting tables, bussing, so some kitchen treading), to commuting via bicycle, to walking along riverside nature paths, to painting murals, to shooting hoops casually on an outdoor basketball court (no intense running). I've stayed upright on icy roads, traversed airports and climbed a heck of a lotta stairs in them.
This recent pair is the Baggy version, though I think they're of similar construction.
The only curiosity for me is that with every pair I've had, the canvas material breaks through on the right-hand side heel, which may be attributed to the way I walk or ride a bicycle. Previously, a cobbler reinforced this heel section with a strip of leather to extend the life of the shoe. Now that part of the canvas around the big toe joint has worn through on my current pair, it's time to replace.
The sole has only ever split on the fourth pair -- AFTER 18 months of being the ONLY shoe. I'm not sure if I stepped on something sharp (it's a strangely-shaped slice), but the rubber is pretty worn and smooth after a year a half of daily use anyway.
I've never expressed all this about the shoe before, to anyone. I wish this was a paid review so that Palladium would engineer me a free pair of right-hand side heel, reinforced boots hahaja.
Thanks, Rose Anvil, for the video - it's super. Cheers.
So are these just a cemented construction? I own 4 pairs and I thought that Palladium used to advertise them as having a patented hot weld rubber construction. Although I dont see any info on their website about that any more. Maybe im wrong.
I have the shoe version pf those boots, with what they call their "paradrop" insole.
They accommodate wider feet, and are perfect for summer imho.
They squeak all the time for me because of the insole though.... and small rocks getting caught in them can be a nightmare.
I have the suede version of that boot and they’re the best footwear I’ve ever had. I actually hike in them rather rigorously, and wear them multiple times a day. They are comfortable to wear ALL day, and after over a year they don’t show any signs of sole/fabric separation. I am just starting to see little bits of material removed from the outsole, mostly on the toe, but overall the haven’t worn. They’re perfect and much more durable than this video led me to believe!
I’ve had three pair of these boots, worn them year round in the heat of the desert southwest US. Had some issues with build quality on the second pair, the adhesive was sloppy. This third pair has been with me since 2015 and they’re in great shape. I confess I did toss the cheap insert for a more supportive one, but that’s the only change I’ve made.
I've had mine since I was about 14-15, and I'm almost 23 now. Mine are leather but they've lasted long. Haven't worn them every day but definitely worn them to the country side and worked with them like woodworking, gardening o house reforms.
As soon as I saw made in china by a french company. I didn't expect anything
keep in mind where these were worn... the French Foreign Legion was mostly based in North Africa, ie. the desert. It's basically an alternative to Clarks as a hot-temperature boot
This kind of makes sense, but the thinness of the outsole combined with the absolute lack of any quality materials makes this shoe 💩
I've had a pair of the waterproof version of these for a handful of years now and I absolutely love them. No, I wouldn't wear them for serious hiking or work, but when it gets super snowy in my city they're great for keeping my feet dry with a good amount of tread. They look good too. I'm thinking about getting another pair here soon.
I've had a pair and have worn them regularly for about 2 years. The outsole is fine and has worn uniformly down but I do hike in them and they have not been pierced. They were very uncomfortable until I put in some aftermarket insoles. Also the toe box is too narrow and they don't have a pull on loop. My combat boots have a bigger toe box so I wear them more in spite of them being heavier than the Palladium. Won't buy them again but I do like the canvas because it dries quickly.
Palladiums are great boots. Most comfortable boot in my collection. I use it for Airsoft War games.
I have owned a leather pair f I bought in SF for $130 for 5 years now. Very durable and comfy. Lifestyle boot for sure. I have not used them for hiking or anything related to work. I do recommend them.
Wow I'm first, this reminds me that I'm a complete failure and I should be studying
I have a pair of old Palladium 'Tactical Plus' boots I've been wearing at the construction site (exterior concrete stuff), and they're not the worst boots I've ever worn. The soles have held up ok - that sole picks up rocks regularly, and at the range, you're taking home 9mm casings wether you like it or not! But the same soles are on my boots - I've stepped on nails and all sorts of stuff with no issue. They're OK boots. Mostly waterproof, not at all warm in the winter (Detroit Area). I wouldn't buy the same ones, but I might consider the more fashionable, canvas models in the future.
Dig the channel. Hoping one day to see a breakdown of my only pair of decent boots - Danner Mountain Light II.
I have a pair of these at work and absolutely love them. I work in an automotive factory assembling interior panels, we don't work around heavy enough equipment to need a proper leather steel toed work boot, but I was never quite satisfied having to replace my sneakers every month or so. I got these boots and find them to be more comfortable than sneakers because it provides ankle support, but I did have to get a really good insole to make up for the thin sole.
Yeah, I know they're just tactical converse, but I love my tactical converse
One year later update: I still wear Palladiums. I don't wear them at work anymore because I need something slip resistant now that I'm a janitor, but I own a pair of both the pampa hi originale and the pallabrousse legion. I use them mostly for casual boots, but also for fencing and HEMA. They get excellent traction on gym floors, while still being extremely lightweight. The reason I use those instead of sneakers, though, comes down to the fact that sometimes I will do HEMA outside in dirt or mud, and the thick lugs get excellent traction outdoors as well.
please review altama boots. i think they use full grain leather and for the low price it seams like a steal.
That cut in half was very satisfying. Oh how I've missed that.
i have the "baggy" (fold over cuff) in black canvas, super super comfortable but only wear casually really. as someone who isn't really into boots but sometimes needs added grip and likes the look, I like them a lot. for me they're better than the other sneaker-boot type things i've tried for sure (vans mte, nike acg) once you hit em with some waterproofing