What We REALLY Think About The Moto RAZR/RAZR+
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- Опубликовано: 30 окт 2024
- So remember the mid-2000s when Motorola was the coolest kid on the block? Yeah, I think they're finally back, and I mean back for real
Yes, after being absent for more than a year, the Moto RAZR is back, but with a far more logical approach, and in two new flavors for an added kick. See, now that the foldable novelty has worn off and flip phones have reached mainstream pricing, Motorola didn't just decide to catch up, but actually challenge every flip foldable we know in both pricing and features. I'm Jaime Rivera with Pocketnow and I've got some thoughts after spending some time with them.
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That standard Razr will sell like crazy. Nice to see Motorola make a comeback.
Depending on the price point. $700 would be a huge winner.
Let's be honest, choosing between the standard Razr and the Flip 4 both at $700, which do you think most people would choose 🤔
@@rolins3279 Flip 4. Due to 'samsung' brand and the 8 gen processor
Not at £1049 as in the UK, sod that Moto, keep dreaming 😴
It won't. The market doesn't care about foldables. They're a pointless gimmick only tech nerds actually care about..
I'm just happy Motorola is doing well. They are an icon in their own right.
Well, Lenovo. Motorola is gone sadly.
@@bradcr152 I understand what you are saying. Yes, they don't have the clout that they did once. However Lenovo computers are still reputable workhorses, and Motorola has made a big welcomed comeback in the cellphone industry. I have a few of their mid to high tier phones and as a consumer I can say I am glad they made a come back. At least till now, when I turn on one of my Motorola phones and I'm greeted with the iconic phrase "Hello Moto", I know I'm holding a reliable device in my hand.
I'm mostly excited about the standard Razr, lower price, bigger battery, and it looks less fragile because of the vegan leather rather than the glass. Could this be the first foldable that really brings the price down?
Met too
Watching this on my razr standard
Love it
No issues
Just got mine for $150...
Excited for the beginning of the tiered foldable a era! Starting to feel like a more established space
It's a gimmick that will fade in a year or so
@@ILoveGrilledCheese Let's come back to this next year
@@ILoveGrilledCheese I feel like this was meant to be directed at WWDC 2023
@@ILoveGrilledCheese I don’t think it will fade just because the galaxy flip is on its 5th edition so it hasn’t been a one year thing. But… I do think there may be another “next best thing” that can come out and move the market that way as the newest thing.
@@ILoveGrilledCheese If it was a gimmick, it would already have faded away, They have existed for almost 4 years now. I own one i can tell you it's not a gimmick.
I've always been a Motorola person, watching this on my Edge 30 Fusion Viva Magenta color phone. I am excited for both these new phone's
I'm interested to hear more about the battery life & performance of the _basic_ RAZR (2023) w/ the Snapdragon 7 Gen 1
From what I have seen with the Razr Plus, this is a major upgrade to my Galaxy Z Flip 3 which is still working out great after nearly two years with it. I am either getting the Razr Plus or Google Pixel Fold depending on carriers and what they offer for a trade in value.
Running my Flip 3 as well. Waiting on the Flip 5 to compare with this new Moto!
I made the switch from my flip 3 to the razr 40 ultra. The phone arrived today. Haven't used it much but so far happy with the purchase. Need to send the flip 3 off later this week for trade in.
@@MumenRider78 If you don't mind me asking, what has Moto offered you on the Flip 3 trade in? And did you happen to get a look at what they'd offer for the Flip 4 as a trade in?
@ajbfwb They offered me £268. I had a 15% code as well which took the phone from £1049.99 to £632.
What about the battery life? Does it last a day at least? The battery of my Z Flip 3 was terrible.
Nice to see you Jaime. I really like this. The magenta calls me. I do like the other version with the smaller screen and better cameras, lowered price.
Fantastic New Phone from Motorola... Sold out already in UK 😞
They had a 15% off discount code on the first day with trade in. Worked out to be £632 for me, trading in my flip 3.
My last Motorola phone was the Nexus 6. I hope they keep innovating!
0:30 LMAO. How he turns from American to the strongest accent you’ve ever heard was amazing. 😂
Razr ultra is now sold out in the UK. I'm hoping to get it though at a lower price in a few months even though I'm deep in the Apple Ecosystem.
I have a feeling Apple will finally do either a flip or fold by 2025. Should be quite interesting when the finally do.
Thanks for the Review. I also watched it before buying the Razr+ as an upgrade to my Z Flip 4. However, After setting up and using it, I found that for m e the Razr+ was not as good as implied in the review (vegan leather notwithstanding).
- Razr+’s build quality just did not seem as good as my Z Flip4. Razr+ felt more plasticky and less solid to me.
- You mentioned a ton of customizations (but also said more discussion would come later in your full review). When I was setting it up, I was amazed at how limited real customizations were in Motorola’s MYUX when compared with the Z Flip 4’s OneUI. Even just comparing the two Settings Menus made me think that the Razor+ was amateurish in options and not as full featured.
- I do think Razr+'s camera seemed a bit better than the horrible Z Flip cameras!
- Also, Razr+ did enable virtually every app to run on thefront screen! (But the experience was kind of clunky & not smooth in transition or in use).
- Finally, I just could not keep using this, or make it my real replacement for Z Flip 4. I wound up returning the Razr+ and am waiting to see if Z Flip 5 is worth the upgrade.
[I am sure others may love the Razr+ approach. & feel it is easier to set up and use . . .just not me.]
Hope you will review the Z Flip 5 when it hits the public this month! :-)
Motorola is back and bringing heat with these 2 phones. They are just going full screen on the cover display before anyone else which was brilliant. This puts Samsung in a very tough position because the zflip5 cover will not measure up to this one. Samsung is now already a year behind. Oh well, Sammy likes to slow roll everything so much so they got beat to it. In hindsight, they probably should have hit a full screen cover by the z flip 3 right?
Motorola was my 1st phone. It was a real Droid. Welcome back!!! Ill be buying the Razr
I'm hyped...I remember leaving on lunch break to get the unlocked version of the razr just so I could have it before everyone else. Lol
So I really loved the razr back then. I'm glad they are making a comeback into the market because I feel like it's going to give Samsung some good competition with the Flip phones.
I love my Flip 4 and excited to see what Samsung does but so far I'm loving what I'm seeing with the bigger cover screen.
I think it will give Samsung a little run for the money because now customer have a choice.
I think that this release will be quite the shake up in this specific tech. The pricing is very interesting in combination with the innovation that has been put in. You would imagine that it would be higher in price range since every (money grabbing) phone producer has been going on that road but very cool that Motorola is doing it different. It makes the tech more affordable and approachable towards a bigger audience. I for one am very excited to see how this situation is going to progress. Is Samsung following this road? Will Apple FINALLY release it's first foldable device and move out of the 2015 design thinking? We'll see. Imagine a Nothing fold edition or something. 😊
But hats off Motorola. You did good!
I want that standard Razr! I just want to experience having a flip phone without spending too much.
I've been a dedicated Nexus and Pixel user for years, and man this phone really is exciting and interesting. And I've always admired Motorola customizations. It's exciting and would consider this. Just needs to go on heavy sale though 😅
"Remember when Motorola was the coolest kid on the block?"
Me, an European: No. That never happened here. Nokia ruled supreme.
Motorola was the coolest kid for a short time here in the UK, the RAZR was king of the flip phones. Then Sony Erricson took the title for a while with slide phones and Blackberry with BBM before Apple came along.
@@SirAdamKenna Nah, Motorola was a bit nore niche in the UK and the rest of europe.
They always had cooler phones, along with Siemens but, they weren't even close to Nokia sales.
I have the second gen 2021 RAZR. I really like it! Folded up, it's fits in my front pocket, and even shirt pocket. The battery is the only issue. I was just looking to replace it with the updated version when I saw how great the new RAZR+ was looking like. I just put in my order for the RAZR + and can't wait to try it out.
I remember I own the first Motorola flip phone and it was amazing!!! Now, I own the Samsung Galaxy Fold 4 and I'm loving it!!!
First fordable that Im really considering to buy
I had the z flip 3, which I enjoyed the folding experience. I couldn't get past the Samsung UI. I'm not a fan of, but Motorola near stock android is for me!
It's _competition_ that is *so needed* and *so necessary* in the current Cell Phone Market. Innovation and pricing that more people can take advantage of. I am welcoming this new challenger to the Samsung Galaxy Flip phones.
*Moto, Bring it on!*
This magenta color, for a lack of a better word is ... BEAUTIFUL
Just got my Moto Razr for Cricket Wireless. Found one new from Marketplace for $150, do not regret my decision.
I love everything about it except the internal screen not being 1440p, the chip not being the more efficient Gen 2, and Motorola not being the best in terms of software updates. Still extremely tempted though.
So basically you just nip-picking...
I was planning to get the Razr+ after not wanting it initially because AT&T is offering $5 per month on it after 36 months. No trade-in required. Since I have no intention leaving AT&T for the next 3 years because I'm under ACP ($30 discount), it sounded like a great deal. But I found out I need a minimum $75 monthly plan.
I was planning to get the Value Plus Plan for $50. My ACP would drop it to $20. But it's most likely that plan isn't eligible for promos like that. So instead of $25 monthly which I'm very willing to do, it goes to $40. I'm already happy with my $20 monthly prepaid plan.
Seems like a good phone but I'm ok. I'm content with my Z Flip 3 and Razr 5G. I want to keep my monthly bills as inexpensive as possible. An extra $20 x 36 still equates to $720 or $240 extra per year. I don't necessarily need a third foldable flip phone.
No one cares...
Wow, the Razr+ is reasonably priced, but if the standard model is more meaningfully priced that could be a real winner. A price of $700-$800 will tempt a fair number of people.
Long time Moto user. Had the 2021 5g version but was unhappy with the build quality and camera. Went with the Samsung Flip 4. Build quality great (but fragile) and camera pretty good. Please, please convince me to come back. Make it worth my while!
I’m definitely excited for this phone and love my S22 Ultra.
I just picked this up. Had a Motorola 5g ace (wtf is that??) And it had a great battery life. I'm loving the new razr so far. Hell yea, Motorola
What they really need to nail besides the pricing is support, you want to have the piece of mind that you spend 1000 bucks on a phone and you will be up to date for at least 3 years (up to date, no getting an os update 8 months after google released it) that would make it really tuff for the z flip.
Who cares when the updates occur. The phone still works.
Yes, I agree this will be great. I'm currently switching weekly between an S23, Pixel 7, iPhone 14 and a Surface Duo (yes I still love that form factor). I keep coming back to the Pixel as I just can't get comfortable with the Samsung UI. One of my youngsters still has a Moto Stylus 5G and I just love that mostly vanialla OS. Hopefully Motorola keeps the same feel to the flip.
Actually contemplating a switch from Samsung flip 4 to the razr+ because of the front screen. Like that cranberry color as well.
Damn I remember my razr back in high school..was the iPhone back then everybody wanted one 😊
Battery life sucked on the original Razr back in the day compared to all the other dumbphones.
ive actually been looking for a second phone for business and that razr + looks like it might be the winner.
ive liked te samsung flips but something has always held me back. the only issue is that i will have to wait for a deal because my phone company doesnt do phone upgrades unless you make a new plan.
I'm excited for this flip phone ❤
I’m an iPhone girl but the razr plus might be the one to make me switch it’s just so fun 🤩
Don’t know about release date in America but down here in Australia the base model RAZR is being released July 26 2 weeks after the Ultra. It’s also $500 cheaper for $999. Ultra is $1499 in Australia.
If they can do the regular razr in 256, I'd jump all over that. I was really excited for the pixel fold, but $1800 is way too hard on the wallet. This would be a great way to get into the foldable game.
I’m more excited about the RAZR+ than the Pixel fold. I carry 2 iPhones and moto is tempting me to go back into the android pool.
You carry 2 I phones and want to carry another phone? That's curious. I hate carrying one, big cell phone. Hate the way it feels in my pocket. That's why I ordered this moto flip. Not sure why anyone needs 3 cell phones
@@tonycoffman1324 the Razr would replace one of the iPhones.
Apple you better figure something out 😂😂😂
Foldable Apple
I want the new base Razr so I can stop worrying about my Galaxy S22+ falling out of my pocket all the time. The base Razr has a bigger battery than the Razr+ so that's the one I want. I couldn't care less about the functionality of the external display as long as I get notified when I get calls and texts.
I wonder if Nokia will make a comeback to the US market like it did back in the mid 90s and early 2000s
The Standard Moto Razr looks appealing :)
Mine overheats daily. That much touted front screen runs too hot. I'm praying it doesn't blow up or melt.
Why do you feel the need to blantantly lie? Is it for attention?
Im on the Razr 5G right now as i watch this. I got it new 300 in the box and all from a guy who works for a phone company and just gets new phones and tries them out. Lucky deal on my part.
Does the tiny outer screen of Razr 40 allow third-party apps to utilize or only for built-in widgets?
Some. Like the weather app, or answer calls. Play music.
I just bought a Pixel 6a earlier in the month but I'd gladly switch to that vegan leather Moto Razr if it's somewhere between 5-700. Looks so good.
Was a Motorola fan for maybe a decade going back to the Moto Droids with Verizon. But I eventually got tired of them not having wireless charging on their mid tier and under models so I finally came to the Pixel side and I doubt I'll be going back any time soon
Motorola stopped being the Motorola we all knew and loved when they were sold to Lenovo. Everything changed for the worst at that point.
There is no such thing as wireless charging.
Either the wire goes in your phone or in a stand.
Totally awesome, I"m ready for one myself
0:31
A missed opportunity to say "...challenge every flippin' phone in that segment".
I hope this it'll be their comeback 👌
Did your pre-production sample have an issue that kept it from folding open totally flat, like the one made available to MrMobile? I'll be watching this one closely, as it's the first phone that could lure me from trading my Z Flip 4 for the 5, in late July. If Samsung is able to maintain last year's retail (the RAZR+ pricing should be a big motivator in doing so), it would tough not to go with the Z Flip 5, given that it's outer screen should be nearly as impressive....and my desire to stick with the Sammy ecosystem, for the time being.
The only problem with moto is uodates. Thats where samsung kicks butt. If Moto would commit to 3-4 os updates and 4 years of security updates their phones would sell like crazy. Its an issue
I'm so excited about the regular RAZR ❤❤❤
Motorola's reminding people that, at a certain point in time, these large cell phone makers decided to jack up the price, simply because they can. I doubt many remember the sudden jump on a flagship Samsung from $500 to $1000 practically overnight, and it offered nothing significant. Then Apple followed the money as well. (or was it the other way around) For the incremental improvements offered, there's zero reason why they can't offer these phones at a far lower price point. It's because of this I've held on to my S20 for as long as I have, when I used to upgrade in a year and a half or so. I'll put money down on a standard razr though, because that's what we all wanted.
I'm really excited to know when the Razr (simple one) will be released, specially here in Brazil. I only had Motorola phones since 2015, I'm excited about this one!
This phone is looking sharp!
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can you put your own pictures or gifs (especially gifs!) on the clockface on the standard 40?? it's really the factor i need to know before i decide to buy it
Moto needs to make a Fold. I love this new phone.
Really nice release bit jot for me, happy with my OnePlus 10 Pro for now. And 999USD is definitely not a reasonable in any way.
I want it but I'll wait to see what Samsung's answer to it will be with the Flip 5 in August before I decide.
I want the magenta I am counting the days to the pre order. ❤
Moto needs to work on their software update cycles, if they do that I will literally have zero complaints from the brand because their price to perform is getting better day by day and stock Android is awesome.
Why? The phone still works fine even if updates are a couple months late, correct.
Great video as always 😊 hello moto 💪
But will the Razr+ slide all around the table on the slightest incline!?
After owning the ZFlip4, I've been disappointed with the outer display and the backing on the phone. It pretty well cannot sit still on a surface without an outer case, making the phone quite bulky even closed.
Question: Is the dial tone separate from the notification sound so that I control raising and lowering the volume, like Samsung, or the ringtone and notifications with one control to lower and raise the volume?
Can a current Motorola user answer this question? I'm on a Pixel 7 and the volumes are all separated. I would hope Motorola is the same. I'm ready to buy the Motorola Razr now with these awesome prices?
I had the og razor back in the day. Im happy to see a comeback and i will be buying this phone.😊
i would definitely go to that standard/affordable razr👍🙂
So happy moto is back on track 🎉❤
The wrong track
@@DENVEROUTDOORMAN what u think, they can compete with Apple and Samsung by making slate phones? Moto is nowhere close to image processing and AI and thats what todays generation want, not the chop and twist gestures. So the only way to make company survive is to make nostalgic phones and flip lineup is the best thing that couldve happened to LeMoto
It was the coolest thing ever when it originally came out. I remember the commercial. Like fruit ninja showing how thin it was.
Just picked up the standard Razr. Motorola really gets it. They need to stay focused because when they focus they really get it. I don't think people who are not Motorola people see the true value here either. They are fixated on things like bigger outter screens etc. In reality I only need an outer screen for basics. I would rather have the bigger battery. For the price (Promotional $199.00) it is the perfect phone for me. I am not fooled into thinking it is a flagship phone either. Flagship phones are phones people want. Not phones that people actually need. Things that are useful to me on flagship phones are things like RAM, refresh rates and power efficiency. The other stuff I have no real value in. This is the phone I would design if someone came to me and said design a smart phone.
The 3 things you listed as important are totally unimportant, unless you are a loser who spends his time gaming on your phone.
@@msp5138 What's important to you isn't what is important to others necessarily. Please get over yourself....lol
Jaime, I was trying to sleep man. 😢 Let me watch. Go Moto.
Very happy with the Razr 40 ultra 😊
I was very disappointed with the razr and then the zflip. Neither were very sturdy. My razr just crapped out and I went through 2 zflip 3's. I would very much like a sturdy pocket phone that also flips to a bigger screen and oh by the way, needs to las all day!
You're seriously the very best
dream phone man its beautiful
I have the 2023 flip razor loving it ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ 5 Star.💖🤗👍
Actually razr 2022 was sold in uk as well as China
So here is an update since this video is older than dirt. The Razr phones feel real cheap, the battery life soks and if you use quick charge it gets hot, the bend shows on the screen, and finally the price is absurd for a phone like this. There you have it in a short sentence. If you really want a descent phone, maybe the Edge 2023 will fit your pocket depth a little better, and you can write notes with a pen! Wow writing notes is the sheets, HEY?
The only issue that they have is they constantly fail to provide timely updates for their smartphones.
And that does what? The phone still works just fine.
My Surface Duo rarely recevied updates and it is still fine after 3 years.
The Razr 2022 also got released in Australia
If this has good battery life and good software support, I might have to get it.
You can guarantee it won't have either of those things, 2 years Max of OS updates + 3 more years of mandatory security updates.
@@Nexy9 The Razr+ has promised 3 years of major Android updates and bi-monthly security patches...
Ordered mine and it was free!
I'll be willing to get the Razr+ in glacial blue as my Razr 5G and Flip 3 are both black but only if I can use any postpaid plan. I'm good for $25 per month but not for $40.
I really wanted the red one but it looks to be a T-Mobile exclusive. I believe the cheaper Razr should be priced at $500. It only has a Snapdragon 7 Gen 1. That's on par to a 855 chip from 2019. If AT&T offers that for FREE while I can pick any postpaid plan, I'll be willing to get that.
AT&T can be real jerks. I found out many older phones no longer work on it. There is a list in pdf form that tells me which devices run on it. Nothing older than iPhone 6 or 2014 Android devices. An unlocked LG G5 won't run on it. Has to be the AT&T variant. Same applies to a BlackBerry KeyOne from 6 years ago.
This is why AT&T is pushing me to get a new phone. An AT&T variant. What if my unlocked Z Flip 3 will stop working on AT&T after 4 years? My T-Mobile Razr 5G which I got unlocked before leaving them won't work on AT&T. Add the Oppos and vivos that won't work on them. So I can never get a Find N or vivo X Flip.
They only give like a 6-year limit for unlocked phones. By the 7th year, they will start to de-list them. The AT&T variants will last a little longer. I would leave AT&T and go back to T-Mobile but AT&T offers ACP and T-Mobile offers it through Metro. The AT&T prepaid unlimited plan sounds like the best deal if you have ACP. I tried Metro and didn't like it.
Red is also available direct from Motorola. Pre-orders accepted at T-Mobile starting 6/15, and from Motorola a day later.
Got it for 400 was it worth it ?? I'm nervous :(
The update are what helding back from Motorola. Not gonna invest on another Motorola.
I feel like they have copied Samsung's homework and submitted it before them. The cheaper motorazr looks pretty much like the Samsung Z Flip 4 but the transposed camera array. The pricier Razr could find similarities with Z Flip 5. It will be interesting.
Well there aren't a lot of different ways to make a flip phone...
The point of a flip phone is that i have a way to protect my screen when i close it. Now i need to protect the outside screen. Kinda pointless
The point of a flip phone is the smaller size.
This is why women prefer them.
Bet you feel pretty stupid right now.
The Razr 2022 never left China? It is sold almost everywhere, maybe not the US but tons of countries are still selling that phone…
It was not marketed in the US.
I hope motorola will start selling in the Southeast Asian markets!
Looking forward to this phone! Isn’t this the only flip/fold in the US that has a dust rating and not just a water resistance rating? I just noticed it wasn’t an IPX5 or whatever, and has two numbers.
Yeah, it's got the better dust rating, but not as much water resistance as the Samsung. I was thinking about it though and most of the times that my phones have gotten wet (more than rain) was when it would plop out of my pocket unexpectedly, lol. I don't think I'll have to worry about that with this actually fitting snuggly in my pocket 😊
the 3.6" screen will be a big selling feature....John Chen is somewhere sobbing heavily right now. 😂😂😂
The RAZR+ is a must buy phone
I think I'm finally getting a foldable phone!
I love it
I'm watching this on my RAZR 5G and I gotta say, most of the reason I bought this device... Was because of the nostalgia and the design. This new "RAZR" *Isn't* a RAZR to me
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