Rhaenyra reveals Laenors true nature & agrees to make the best of their arranged union

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  • @Amarok.Official
    @Amarok.Official  11 месяцев назад +112

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  • @epaybe
    @epaybe 9 дней назад +187

    Plot twist: she likes roast duck and goose

  • @joeyboardwell8030
    @joeyboardwell8030 Год назад +14749

    She handled this in such a kind and tactful way. She didn't make him feel wrong or awkward just relieved.

    • @wyattbequette3596
      @wyattbequette3596 Год назад +67

      Book version of rhaenyra implied he was a pedophile cause he was gay, so maybe not a perfect little angel, yeah?

    • @joeyboardwell8030
      @joeyboardwell8030 Год назад +153

      @@wyattbequette3596 I don't believe anyone is a perfect angel.

    • @rachelfox8108
      @rachelfox8108 Год назад +345

      ​@@wyattbequette3596Yes, but the book proves itself time and again to have an unreliable, biased narrator -- particularly when you compare the voice of Fire and Blood to any books in the ASOIAF series. Rhaenyra could well have implied Laenor was a paedophile because the narrator, Mushroom, believes gay men to be paedophiles, and chose to use Rhaenyra as his spokeswoman.

    • @wyattbequette3596
      @wyattbequette3596 Год назад +19

      @@rachelfox8108 why would he, though? Her making the pedo comment is perfectly acceptable by westerosi standards, hell it's probably encouraged. Why would someone lie to make rhaenyra look better after she lost the war?

    • @wyattbequette3596
      @wyattbequette3596 Год назад +16

      @@rachelfox8108 also, "unreliable narrator" is total bullshit when in relation to the show, which is an entirely separate canon.
      Show canon took the most uncharitable depiction of the greens possible while making TB look as amazing and justified as they can. Aegon attending fighting pits and raping people is also a wild claim by mushroom, one which is EVEN LESS likely than the pedo joke considering mushroom was hundreds of miles away in a different court at the time. The show also invents a prophecy out of thin air that justifies every bad thing TB could ever do because "muh greater hood prophecy" and ruined Rhaenys with... well honestly with all of her dialogue since all of it is total garbage.
      Really the show is just *not good*, especially compared to what they could've done with the dance

  • @justbreathe_
    @justbreathe_ Год назад +7202

    Rhaenyra was the best wife that he could have. She let him be himself. Also, it was so beautiful when he said that he wishes he was different and she told him that she doesn’t because he’s a good man. 😢

    • @Titanium_Titanium
      @Titanium_Titanium Год назад +166

      Laenor was the best husband she could have she could sleep with other men and letting her bastards inherit the velaryon family

    • @YvetteArby
      @YvetteArby 11 месяцев назад +105

      😭😭😭 He was a good man. And she was a good woman.

    • @tessdurberville711
      @tessdurberville711 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@Titanium_Titanium
      Which caused countless problems

    • @justbreathe_
      @justbreathe_ 10 месяцев назад +17

      @@nomadjensen8276 this discussion is about the show

    • @nomadjensen8276
      @nomadjensen8276 10 месяцев назад

      @@justbreathe_ yeah? Well you got my comment anyway. Don't like it? I could not give less of a fuck.

  • @foxy9403
    @foxy9403 Год назад +19800

    She was such a understanding lady, knew her duty and responsibility

    • @IgnorantWeed
      @IgnorantWeed Год назад +1

      except she game birth to three BASTARDS!

    • @foxy9403
      @foxy9403 Год назад +3

      @@IgnorantWeed good for her.. what else she suppose to do???
      She and lenore tried multiple time and never got pregnant.
      Don't ever speak on her again your dirty smelly cμπt

    • @levia9349
      @levia9349 Год назад +359

      She did not loool

    • @kelvinb16
      @kelvinb16 Год назад +1

      This is what a spoilt brat thinks, she didn't care about duty only making herself happy

    • @valdar9289
      @valdar9289 Год назад +64

      @@levia9349 Exactly

  • @Thekellin1
    @Thekellin1 Год назад +15779

    They were a great couple despite everything. Loved and supported each other for ten years.

    • @treeclan
      @treeclan Год назад +913

      I don't think they are a good couple, since they never had these sort of feelings for each other. But I do love their friendship very much. They raised the children together and supported each other's secret love affairs. In the world they live, their aren't many people who are wealing to do this kind of things.

    • @haloquayle
      @haloquayle Год назад +126

      10 YEAAAARRRZZZZ

    • @mcttnkn4700
      @mcttnkn4700 Год назад +204

      Not necessarily a “couple” good friends sure lmao.

    • @princessazulaofthefirenati5870
      @princessazulaofthefirenati5870 Год назад +3

      ​@@treeclan affair

    • @treeclan
      @treeclan Год назад

      @@princessazulaofthefirenati5870: Sorry

  • @dannyboy218
    @dannyboy218 10 дней назад +10

    Funny how in the ep 6 of season 2 she does eat the goose lol

  • @Jdonner4713
    @Jdonner4713 Год назад +10018

    They actually both prefer the same diet

  • @patrickdormeus8453
    @patrickdormeus8453 Год назад +8919

    Cersei " I'll pretend I didn't hear this conversation"
    Robert "agreed"

    • @farseeraradrel4808
      @farseeraradrel4808 Год назад +246

      The difference is that Cercei really loved Robert at first. But he could never forget Lyanna, so...

    • @JuMiKu
      @JuMiKu Год назад +293

      ​@@farseeraradrel4808 That part wasn't about Lyanna. While Robert could do as he pleased, had an affair even been mentioned, Cersei would have been done for. Robert wouldn't have looked the other way. People call Cersei a narcissist, but Robert is worse. To him only his own needs exist.

    • @idk-qt4jy
      @idk-qt4jy Год назад +42

      ​@@farseeraradrel4808 no, Cersei loved rhaegar and Jaime but never Robert

    • @dineshbalu6107
      @dineshbalu6107 Год назад +117

      ​@@idk-qt4jy No, she did at 1st after their Marriage. She worshipped him. Before Robert she loved Rhaegar Targaryen..

    • @lolbia3161
      @lolbia3161 Год назад +10

      I mean Rhaenyra also had bastards just like Cersei though

  • @VAOdin
    @VAOdin Год назад +837

    She offered him true happiness while also fulfilling their duties and as a result gained an ally for life.

    • @levia9349
      @levia9349 Год назад +5

      Rhaenyras isn't known for fulfilling her duties lool

    • @hottea9826
      @hottea9826 Месяц назад +19

      @@levia9349she literally is. She provided heirs to the crown (legitimate ones seeing as they were recognized by corlys, laenor and the king), she attended every council meeting even after giving birth to joffrey and was very present and worried in internal politics of the realm (seen as the blackwood bracken conflict, daemon stealing the egg).

    • @saoirserubio536
      @saoirserubio536 2 дня назад +1

      @@hottea9826 Her duty was to provide heirs fathered by Leanor. She failed.

  • @kimberlymueller5
    @kimberlymueller5 9 месяцев назад +502

    I love how for a moment Laenor looks relieved. Rhaneyra was his safe place

    • @samf.s.7731
      @samf.s.7731 10 дней назад

      And then she makes out with Mysaria.
      I know they gave the cheating spouse aspect to Rhaenyra instead of Daemon here as opposed to in the book because that's gotta make it more plausible when Mysaria lies about Daemon's intentions and actions - because Rhaenyra would trust Mysaria after being fooled by her
      And also, to crap less on Daemon because the show made him seem less grey and more just straight up a villain (Which really is odd - because they have Aemond for that).
      But then I remember scenes like this where she seemed convinced she's straight. But then again she said "prefer", and not "I only dine on Roast Duck". Then again, she expressed Laenor's preferences with a similar description.
      Are the writers contradicting themselves here to make what's about to happen in later seasons plausible (Spoilers, Mysaria succeeds in breaking up Daemyra), and cut Daemon, who was depicted as very horrible, some slack (And make *his* later actions also seem plausible).

  • @PerfectlyImperfect93
    @PerfectlyImperfect93 Год назад +3300

    I loved this moment and how Rhaenyra never judged Laenor or blamed him for not producing a legitimate heir. They really did love and care about each other❤

    • @EughhBrothereughh
      @EughhBrothereughh Год назад +111

      It doesnt depend on his blood. All kids rhaenyra gave birth too r legitimate heirs shes a princess ffs her husband doesnt play a part in it. As long as there is a targaryen blood in heirs they're legitimate

    • @randokun6430
      @randokun6430 Год назад +40

      ​@@EughhBrothereughh not to legitimate heir of drift mark..

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Год назад +18

      @@EughhBrothereughh That doesn't make any sense.

    • @randokun6430
      @randokun6430 Год назад +11

      @@SR-iy4gg they don't care to make sense these days.. not when it comes to mah female power fantasy.

    • @maxi1ification
      @maxi1ification Год назад +49

      @@EughhBrothereughh I am team black but... that's not true.
      By definition a legitimate heir on the standards of the universe the show takes place in is a trueborn son, that is a child fathered by the husband of the mother who was born while said father and mother were married. If those conditions do not apply, then they're bastards, illegitimate children, the content of the blood is irrelevant as to that status.
      Now, the king CAN legitimize bastards, in which case they earn the right to bear the corresponding house name that belongs to their father and they enter the line of succession that corresponds to both lines, if the mother is to inherit or already possesses something to pass on, but it would require acknowledging the bastard in the first place, which in the case of Rhaenyra's children cannot be since they always claimed they were trueborn in the first place. Part of the fun part of the story is the fact that detractors of Rhaenyra ARE correct in pointing out her birthing bastards and trying to pass them off as legitimate, but the debate is as to whether such a thing should matter in the first place and the fact that the people criticizing her are no better on many other fields. She's not perfect, but neither are her enemies, and she's certainly more sympathetic than Aegon.

  • @sugma1340
    @sugma1340 Год назад +1689

    Basically saying don’t worry I’m the cool cousin I won’t tell on you, now let’s go make a three eyed kid.

    • @HylianPirate278
      @HylianPirate278 Год назад +90

      They’re second cousins. It’s barely incest at that point

    • @ericwalsh2954
      @ericwalsh2954 Год назад +75

      ​@@HylianPirate278 whattttttttttt

    • @detomeki7664
      @detomeki7664 Год назад +96

      @@HylianPirate278 say sike right now

    • @dewdecsysabz5323
      @dewdecsysabz5323 Год назад +14

      @@HylianPirate278 uh!

    • @moodylittlebitch2023
      @moodylittlebitch2023 Год назад

      ​@@HylianPirate278 um, no, it's still very much incest. You are either misinformed, or you do not know what a second cousin is.

  • @nocturnalSlytherin
    @nocturnalSlytherin 11 месяцев назад +304

    There are a lot of people that say she didn't really care about him, but she DID love him. They were friends and companions for a decade, and they loved, comforted and confided in one another. They kept the others' secrets and shared a life and family together.

  • @keleighiorek99
    @keleighiorek99 Год назад +4638

    I've never seen a duck or a goose in this fictional world.... or dare I say, elephants

    • @theeoneoracle769
      @theeoneoracle769 Год назад +99

      And only seen Lions on Lannister Sigils

    • @WERTYUIO821
      @WERTYUIO821 Год назад +118

      House Cargyll(the house that the twins were from)have a goose in their sigil. There is also someone called "Duckfield" in the books(I believe he was a Bastard of house Caswell). So both of those animals then are canon and they exist in Westeros.
      Elephants are something that exist in Essos similarly to the fact that you have no elephants in Europe but you have in Asia and Africa.

    • @WERTYUIO821
      @WERTYUIO821 Год назад +51

      ​@@theeoneoracle769
      I believe in the first show we were told that House Clegane got their Lordship because Cregor and Sandor's grandfather saved Tywin's father from a lionesses together with his three dogs(who all died but they became his nee sigil). So lions are confirmed to stil exist in Westerlands

    • @keleighiorek99
      @keleighiorek99 Год назад +27

      @@WERTYUIO821 I understand that those animals exist. But the only animals we ever see in game of thrones is wolves, deer, basic birds, and dragons. You'd think they'd have like rabbits and shit hopping around or squirrels

    • @WERTYUIO821
      @WERTYUIO821 Год назад +10

      @@keleighiorek99
      The show focus had been in the North(where you saw all the animals you mentioned), King's Landing(only building) and Dragonstone(a volcano).
      Rabbits is probably a more of a Reach thing while Lions are in Westlands and in Stormlands(If I am not wrong Stormlands has black lions like house Grandison's sigil).
      Perhaps we will see more of the Reach during the battle of the Dance but I doubt it. Unfortunately, the fanbase is way too much North and Kingslanding based so we will be probably be stuck with their animals+Ravens.

  • @lunathemoon64
    @lunathemoon64 Год назад +2701

    I loved the dialogue here so much 😂😂

  • @RianneMision
    @RianneMision Год назад +1785

    “My uncle’s great though” 🤣

  • @tonycos2354
    @tonycos2354 Год назад +1243

    Royal marriages should be like this, the two parties should have an understanding and work together, their union is important for the whole realm

    • @SR-iy4gg
      @SR-iy4gg Год назад +17

      They usually are.

    • @Brit626
      @Brit626 Год назад +17

      This is a luxury that most political unions cannot afford. ESPECIALLY in a feudal society. But in a much more modern setting, I completely agree.

    • @happyninja42
      @happyninja42 Год назад

      @@Brit626 Except in a modern setting, their union ISN'T important. "Royal" has no meaning or significance outside of fiction. They aren't divinely chosen, as royal blood implies. They're just filthy apes like the rest of us, just born into positions of ridiculous wealth and privilege. So who they marry/fuck doesn't matter at all in a modern setting.

    • @sirius1ish
      @sirius1ish Год назад +7

      Until the partner comes out and says they played second fiddle in the hearts of their partners and it was never love. The public goes up in anger and abuses the other even though they already made an agreement and stuck to the rules

    • @fenrir4446
      @fenrir4446 Год назад +3

      And yet she shat on it with her strong boys

  • @SwedePotato314
    @SwedePotato314 5 месяцев назад +34

    There was more love between them than most married couples, then or now. Even if it wasn’t romantic, they loved and respected each other and he was a good man to her and her kids. I’m glad he was given freedom to live his life although she suffered so much because of the secrets they kept. I know there was a lot of mutual love and respect between them. She handled this very tactfully and with a lot of class. It could’ve been so much worse for the both of them.

    • @RealKillerloop
      @RealKillerloop 22 дня назад

      It is good for a novel, but so unrealistic. Given what was at stake, a real life Leanor HAD to produce at least a legitimate firstborn. From that point on "each of us dines as we see fit".

  • @RainKoepke-ic3gf
    @RainKoepke-ic3gf 11 месяцев назад +93

    I love how she tells.him that the gods made him well, he was a good man with a kind heart

    • @tessdurberville711
      @tessdurberville711 10 месяцев назад +1

      Then be friends. She should have married Daemon.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 8 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@tessdurberville711Did you miss that she wasn't allowed to do that? Should have would have, noone asked them, the King said "no", and that was it.

    • @latishabuckner8231
      @latishabuckner8231 7 месяцев назад

      I'd say too bad he couldn't give her at least one heir, but it would have been even more telling if one kid came out looking like Laenor and the rest like Harwin.

    • @Shannon-vv6rr
      @Shannon-vv6rr 27 дней назад

      ​​@@tessdurberville711Viserys didn't allow it when Daemon asked to marry Rhaenyra and secure their lineage on the throne years earlier before the Dance.

    • @tessdurberville711
      @tessdurberville711 26 дней назад

      @@Shannon-vv6rr
      I am well aware of that.
      Viserys knew Daemon was unstable and he was trying to protect her. Unfortunately, she wound up with him anyway.

  • @VibrantlyDark
    @VibrantlyDark Год назад +585

    That was such a mature conversation I absolutely loved it

  • @maxcherkasskikh5960
    @maxcherkasskikh5960 Год назад +56

    Rhaenyra was wise beyond her age… Recognizing what was fairly obvious and still willing to perform her duties and turn a blind eye to what each of them actually wanted sexually wise.

  • @judyannludchawefoyagao8278
    @judyannludchawefoyagao8278 Год назад +233

    This kind of an understanding and respectful relationship is a million times better than most romantic couples who "fall in love" then "fall out of love" as fast.

    • @scottmatheson3346
      @scottmatheson3346 11 месяцев назад +5

      a fake relationship is better than a sincere one? nope.

    • @lynnz7501
      @lynnz7501 9 месяцев назад +25

      ​@@scottmatheson3346 It was a fake romantic relationship but a true friendship. They clearly had a deep bond full of trust and understanding.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 8 месяцев назад +4

      First, not all or even "most" romantic couples fall apart so easily as you say.... Second, you can't compare different kinds of love/relationship aka friendship (which they had) vs romantic love. Nothing is better or worse here, just different things

  • @lunix3562
    @lunix3562 Год назад +230

    I loved them and although their love was platonic it was sweet.
    I think people are missing the point that Rhaenyra and Laenor did sleep together a few times. Rhaenerya says it explicitly twice in episode 7. Theu just couldn't conceive. Laenor may have been infertile. He did perform. However, Rhaenyra loved him enough not to make him continue.
    She also fell in love with Harwin along the way. A 10 year monogamous relationship is a long time. She also seems to need a connection with someone to be with them. As little as we saw of it, I loved the Rhaenyra/Laenor/Harwin family dynamic.

    • @jjh2456
      @jjh2456 Год назад

      Stop blaming Laenor for Rhaenyra’s fuck up. You see here she said they must perform their duties to their fathers. They didn’t do it and she produced bastards.

  • @selenamartinez2493
    @selenamartinez2493 9 месяцев назад +24

    They did have love for each other. He took on a duty that didn’t have to be. And stuck by it. And she appreciated it so much

  • @crystalmiranda5830
    @crystalmiranda5830 Год назад +39

    I love them as best friends they understand each other

  • @earlyjicama4302
    @earlyjicama4302 Год назад +82

    Margery tried to pull this with Renly and he was just like "nope, I'm good thanks"

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 8 месяцев назад +5

      Didn't he agree though? He didn't have a choice anyway...Maybe he didn't want to bed her brother right after trying to bed her which was understandable, does not mean he was against the agreement

    • @propogandalf
      @propogandalf Месяц назад +6

      ​@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849The agreement here and what Margaery tried was do your duty and conceive an heir and then you can go off and screw around. Renly was unable to perform with Margaery and refused to let Loras in to facilitate the process.

    • @tracys169
      @tracys169 10 дней назад +1

      @@propogandalf to be fair, Loras is related to Margaery lol, so not surprised Renly was kind weirded out with that suggestion. But it also shows to me that Margaery tried her best to facilitate her husband and their duty to that extent (involving her own bro).

  • @siennajohnson9051
    @siennajohnson9051 Год назад +116

    The smirk at the end is my favorite part 😅

  • @mmjj7685
    @mmjj7685 3 месяца назад +8

    I love Rhaenyra's necklace such a classic piece of jewelry oh, and it was nice of her to be respectful to Laenor.

  • @jpturner9452
    @jpturner9452 Год назад +329

    She is clearly a born leader. Targaryen through and through.

    • @stormbringer2840
      @stormbringer2840 Год назад +2

      She is a brat . Nothing more or less .

    • @gbakiddo
      @gbakiddo Год назад +12

      You haven't read the books hey? Haha

    • @jpturner9452
      @jpturner9452 Год назад +4

      @@gbakiddo I have

    • @gbakiddo
      @gbakiddo Год назад +10

      @@jpturner9452 Then you know why she wouldn't have been a good Queen.

    • @josesesade5732
      @josesesade5732 Год назад +2

      ​​@@jpturner9452leading her to the streets

  • @miea34
    @miea34 Год назад +119

    I love young rhaenyra so much

    • @Thekellin1
      @Thekellin1 Год назад +4

      me too.

    • @patrickfabsich2692
      @patrickfabsich2692 11 дней назад

      Me too, the scene of ep 3& 4 was cringe but I loved that they brought milly all cock back...

  • @aileenpi73
    @aileenpi73 9 месяцев назад +28

    She was shown as very smart, diplomatic, tolerant, fair, and always looking for the best possible outcomes for all involved.

  • @kidayoon9923
    @kidayoon9923 11 месяцев назад +10

    (I'll comment this according to the show cuz I haven't read books)
    Rhaenyra might have ignored her duty and responsibilities, in a spoiled brat way. But, her pure love, support and respect for Laenor will always live in head rent free. She didn't make him uneasy. She even comforted him when he was downhearted and blamed himself for being different. As she told to Rhaenys, "I loved your son". Yes she did love Laenor. Laenor loved her too. In the most pure, supporting love.

  • @izybel1555
    @izybel1555 Год назад +24

    She's such a g for that

  • @elainenagano2735
    @elainenagano2735 Месяц назад +4

    Just love her acting and this dialogue!!! This scene is priceless! Both actors wonderful! The music perfectly matching the mood and content of discussion! Thankyou for this slice of heaven!!!!❤

  • @coreyloucks4865
    @coreyloucks4865 Год назад +148

    I liked Leanors a lot. A very good human being and a good father even knowing the kids weren't his, he stepped up to raise them as if they were. I'm glad the show chose not to kill him off. I wonder if they will bring him back in disguised as Alyn instead of having Alyn be "his" bastard.

    • @amethystanna6496
      @amethystanna6496 Год назад +6

      I hope so! Nyra and Leanor were absolute goals given the time they were in.

    • @connaeris8230
      @connaeris8230 Год назад

      Oh no not Alyn, Alyn had a wife and kids 😅
      And also a brother, which would be hard to conjure out of thin air

    • @taratron8570
      @taratron8570 Год назад

      lol he was not a good person. he faked his death, leaving his parents thinking both of their children had died.

    • @greenman6141
      @greenman6141 11 месяцев назад +6

      @@taratron8570 Had he been honest with them, they would have told him they wished he were dead, and at best disowned him. Recall how tolerant The Faith of the Seven is of anyone LGBT even being alive, let alone happy.

    • @user-hs5vb6kc9o
      @user-hs5vb6kc9o 10 месяцев назад +1

      ​@@greenman6141
      They knew he liked men, it just didn't matter as long as he was able to perform his duties

  • @ivetterodriguez15
    @ivetterodriguez15 Месяц назад +3

    He was lucky to have her in the end she let him free to be himself, to live on his terms, to
    Live with his love and in the end they both dined as they wished.

  • @alexm8859
    @alexm8859 Год назад +776

    There’s a lot of people who don’t realize that Rhaenyra having Laenor’s children would have changed almost nothing about the story.

    • @jt7638
      @jt7638 Год назад +177

      Really??? Westeros compels the illegitimate to cement their status with regional names like Snow, Sand, Stone, etc. Rhaenyra mothering clearly Valyrian blooded heirs would have cemented her place as an act second only to staying on the small council would have done. If Rhaenyra's children were Leonors, then Alicent would have strongly considered a Jacearys/Helena betrothal, which would have been healthier and maintained the bloodline/dragon lineage.

    • @muqki2178
      @muqki2178 Год назад +96

      If jacerys was leanor biological son then alicent would have agreed to rhaenyra proposal that haelaena married jacerys bc alicent only rejected this proposal bc jacerys true background and she didn't want to dishonour her daughter by making her daughter marry clearly a bastard and if jacerys ascension was disputed bc he's a bastards then she would be putting her duaghter and the children from the marriage which would alicent grandchildren in danger and dishonoured. So if the boys were leanor biological children then the dance wouldn't have happened bc otto wouldn't be able to manipulate alicent to put aegon on the throne bc he wouldn't have strong arguments agasint rhaenyra but bc rhaenyra did mother three obvious bastards that allowed otto to manipulate everyone to his side. This deal that rhaenyra made in the clip is basically the reason why she dies, If she wasn't this stupid and tried more times to mother children from leanor or simply not even try with leanor and try to secretly murder him, that way house velaryon would still be allied to House targaryen and rhaenyra would just wait until the right time to marry daemon and then have her heirs but she went through the stupid route that eventually got her killed and destroyed most of dragons and ruined the power and influence of house targaryen.

    • @rw7567
      @rw7567 Год назад +116

      Agreed. In the end Rheanyra birthed three legitimate heirs which should have had greater claim than alicents children and yet a war was still started. 🤷🏽‍♀️ Alicent just used Jace and Luke’s illegitimacy to make her feel better about her choices which in fact she was betraying the King and the law.

    • @muqki2178
      @muqki2178 Год назад +31

      @@rw7567 which could have been avoided had rhaenyra not slept with anyone other than laenor or try with daemon to ensure the kids have valyrian features, it would have been harder for alicent to try to usurp the throne and she most likely would have supported rhaenyra and betrothed haelaena to jacerys. Rhaenyra poor decision destroyed house targaryen, she was a spoiled brat bc her dad didn't really raise her, so ultimately viserys destroyed house targaryen which is ironic bc he wanted the house of dragon United but he made one terrible decision and ended the power and influence of his house.

    • @rw7567
      @rw7567 Год назад +60

      @@muqki2178 huh? What sauce are you on. Alicent stopped supporting Rhaenyra the moment she found out about Sir Chrispin (spelling intended). If she had supported Rheanyra she would have went to her about what she was hearing. Instead, she kept Sir Crispin as her own personal spy and protector. From that moment on, her allegiance is highly questionable!

  • @almanac4150
    @almanac4150 Месяц назад +2

    Its things like this that really show that familial bond. This sounds exactly how cousins would talk out of the presence of their parents incest a side.

  • @redjeanne5249
    @redjeanne5249 Год назад +12

    If someone wants to find the song of this short, it's called Wolf Princess by Adrian Von Ziegler.

  • @bryanbartley5198
    @bryanbartley5198 Год назад +17

    Twas prob one of there best scenes together

  • @kingkongchief1177
    @kingkongchief1177 Год назад +1034

    So sad they couldn’t have kids. Laenor should’ve brought a guy to bed to help him get hard so he could get Rhanerya pregnant. Like what Margery suggested to Renly that she bring Loras to help Renly get hard so he could get Margery pregnant.

    • @RoverCaptain
      @RoverCaptain Год назад +450

      He would have done just that, and the man who would have been trusted enough by Rhanerya to discreetly fulfil that role was killed at her wedding party by Ser Criston Cole.

    • @alphalegionary7646
      @alphalegionary7646 Год назад +63

      @@RoverCaptain You ain’t wrong

    • @hannahsmart4494
      @hannahsmart4494 Год назад +193

      Well that's up to interpretation I suppose. Because I understood Rhaenyra's statement of "we did our duty" to mean that they did have sex, on a few occasions, but nothing ever came of it.
      Given how understanding Rhaenyra is about it, and the deal she brokered, chances are they might have brought someone in, or did something to help get Laenor in the mood, we just never saw their attempts so we'll never know.

    • @notarandomencounter39
      @notarandomencounter39 Год назад +1

      Margery was ride or die in that regard. A shame she was never queen

    • @TheNaexis
      @TheNaexis Год назад +250

      It's implied Laenor was infertile, regardless of sexuality, and therefore would never have fathered children.

  • @DizzyDior12
    @DizzyDior12 Месяц назад +1

    She's so kind. 🩷

  • @theinvisibleswordsman1196
    @theinvisibleswordsman1196 Год назад +92

    I absolutely loved this and wished it could have gone better.
    I loved when he went with her to take the baby to the Queen.
    And I loved when she gave him his freedom.
    Anyway, a bit easier to stomach than GoT.

  • @barttcounts8456
    @barttcounts8456 Год назад +13

    Love both of these characters. Laenor is such a tragic character, I hope they stray from the books with regards to him.. a triumphant return in an unexpected moment.

  • @missedits6403
    @missedits6403 Год назад +23

    They had the perfect plan and her little side piece effed it up killing his boyfriend.

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 8 месяцев назад +2

      True, but ultimately that changed nothing as he found himself another lover. So did she.

  • @MemphisCorollaS
    @MemphisCorollaS Месяц назад +2

    Probably the healthiest, most honest relationship in Westeros of their era. GRRM just had to punish them for it like a sadistic Spider-Man comics writer while the editor is on vacation.

  • @Midnightsstan521
    @Midnightsstan521 Год назад +96

    Imagine if Laenor actually thought they were talking about food and his cheat day, he eats duck á l’orange, then walks in on Harwin and Rhaenyra 🤣🤪

  • @trixus4768
    @trixus4768 11 месяцев назад +12

    She's a true noble woman. She knows, how to go around the rules without breaking them.

  • @RXdash78
    @RXdash78 9 дней назад +3

    and it looks like she's a fan of goose now.

  • @IBSSnape
    @IBSSnape Месяц назад +1

    Rhaenyra's ahead of her time and a great ally to Laenor. Laenor and Rhaenyra's marriage is probably one of the healthiest in Westeros, along with Rhaenys' and Corlys' marriage.

  • @dreamcatcherben8214
    @dreamcatcherben8214 8 дней назад +1

    This ability to compromise and act within rules while circemventing there limits is exactly why she should be queen.

  • @AbdulRaheem-yn6wo
    @AbdulRaheem-yn6wo 12 дней назад +3

    Little did we know they had pretty common interest

  • @pepsiforever1
    @pepsiforever1 Год назад +82

    except if you follow this analogy of liking goose and duck she is saying he AND she are BOTH gay.

    • @joannehanna2590
      @joannehanna2590 Год назад +1

      LoL 😆🖤

    • @XxTayC94xX
      @XxTayC94xX Год назад +68

      It's actually true, well she's not gay but bi. Her character in the books is written to be "decidedly queer" and the actresses for Rhea and Alicent admit they did play into a subtle love between them.

    • @insultlk
      @insultlk Год назад +3

      ​@@XxTayC94xXBruh there was no love between the two. Where was there any fruity scenes besides Alicent putting her arms around her😂

    • @loominizer31
      @loominizer31 Год назад +2

      ​@@insultlk watch the earlier episodes again you'll know what we're talking about

    • @insultlk
      @insultlk Год назад

      @@loominizer31 I asked for specific scenes, there can't be that many without me blinking a fking eye💀

  • @ADwan83
    @ADwan83 14 дней назад +1

    Even with all the backlash and nastiness people threw at her because her children were clearly not his…..she never broke and told everybody his secret……she was beautiful and loyal

  • @kineticarson3107
    @kineticarson3107 6 дней назад +2

    Apparently she does like goose after all 😂😂

  • @eshibhatt
    @eshibhatt Год назад +4

    Loved them together, truly

  • @kylasbibi
    @kylasbibi Год назад +18

    One of my fave scenes!!!

  • @bloodyhell95
    @bloodyhell95 2 месяца назад +1

    Their friendship was so good I loved that for them

  • @jwbuckmiller82jb
    @jwbuckmiller82jb 21 день назад

    They weren't in love with each other. But they did love each other and were best friends. He was a kind and loving father to her children. The kids truly believed he was their father. This was honestly the most healthy relationship in the entire show.

  • @alex1311t
    @alex1311t Год назад +73

    Gods young Rhaneyra was beautiful

    • @alexissimpson5819
      @alexissimpson5819 Год назад +2

      Old Rhaenyra is ugly?

    • @logolessscenpacks5328
      @logolessscenpacks5328 Год назад +14

      Agreed, but both versions of her are beautiful

    • @IrDaNoobKing
      @IrDaNoobKing Год назад

      @@alexissimpson5819 she is in real life. Looks like she smells of rotten fish

    • @magister343
      @magister343 Год назад +2

      @@alexissimpson5819 Canonically from the book young Rhaenyra was beautiful, but she was less attractive after having several children and becoming morbidly obese. Alicent quickly lost all of her pregnancy weight but Rhaenyra got significantly heavier with each pregnancy and never lost much weight in between.

    • @greenman6141
      @greenman6141 11 месяцев назад +1

      HE is FAR more beautiful!

  • @Infernal460
    @Infernal460 Год назад +300

    This could work, problem is both dont have the discipline to see it through.

    • @Wordlifematt
      @Wordlifematt Год назад +74

      *Spoilers*
      Rhaynera does. It was her idea. Leanor couldn’t “perform”

    • @EroticInferno
      @EroticInferno Год назад +17

      @@Wordlifemattyeah but that’s his duty. Putting a child in her is what he has to do to make this union acceptable from the outside. And he lacks the discipline to see it through and she lacks the discipline to not have unprotected sex that could cause bastards.

    • @angelbass5175
      @angelbass5175 Год назад +71

      @@EroticInferno she needed the heirs tho. She thought about it and made the smartest play. If she didn’t have kids they would try to pass the throne or question if she is capable of continuing the line. If it wasn’t for the shows diversity, rhaenyra kids wouldn’t look so blatantly like bastards. Even in game of thrones it’s written in books that the boys may have been but nobody knows for sure. Laenor mother has black hair in the books and they are white. The show diversity made it clear.

    • @suicidalmemester23
      @suicidalmemester23 Год назад +53

      ​@@EroticInferno They did try, the guy was infertile. Bastards were the only heirs she was getting

    • @stormbringer2840
      @stormbringer2840 Год назад +5

      @@angelbass5175 There is two very clear solution to this . First of all bring the problem to corlys and Rhaenys . They would not be happy but most likely corlys order Vaemond to have children with Rhaenyra and make them pass for Leanor’s . Still bastards but impossible to prove since they would look like velaryons .
      Or simply cancel the wedding for infertility.
      By that time Daemon and Laena would be married with children so the velaryon tides wouldn’t be severed and Rhaenyra would be able to marry Harwyn and have lawful children with him .

  • @shadowsaiyan
    @shadowsaiyan 8 дней назад +2

    Margerie had a better strategy. She and her brother were going to tag team poor Renley until she got her prize😅🤣🤣🤣

  • @wettowelggh3033
    @wettowelggh3033 18 часов назад

    "My uncle's great through" 😭😭 the subtitles are crazy🤣

  • @StarrySoakedSkiess
    @StarrySoakedSkiess 9 месяцев назад +3

    THE BACKGROUND SONG?! Its so beautiful. someone tell me the name please

  • @iResonate
    @iResonate Год назад +7

    This was when i fell in love with Rhaenyra's character. A true ally! We stan!

  • @GustavoSilva-ny8jc
    @GustavoSilva-ny8jc Год назад +2

    Great way of being concise and polite.

  • @dwaekkisinsanity5233
    @dwaekkisinsanity5233 19 дней назад +1

    Dare I say the healthiest marriage I’ve seen in the whole show

  • @Honeymoon1988
    @Honeymoon1988 Год назад +51

    That’s pretty cool and progressive of her in those early times.

    • @Honeymoon1988
      @Honeymoon1988 Год назад +5

      @@blabla187 promiscuous?? Because she was young and wanted to explore her life, sexuality and see what she likes? Oh very selfish of her… 🙄

    • @endangeredspecies8441
      @endangeredspecies8441 Год назад +2

      @@Honeymoon1988she’s not a commoner. She doesn’t have those luxuries. Her lack of discipline cost her the throne.

  • @vanessaz8955
    @vanessaz8955 Год назад +30

    You two had 1 job!

  • @somelikeitposh
    @somelikeitposh 22 дня назад

    This really was the best union for both of them

  • @SuccubiSage
    @SuccubiSage 6 месяцев назад +1

    I wonder how many times something like that has happened in our history.

  • @attackingpenguin9032
    @attackingpenguin9032 Год назад +6

    “My uncles great though”
    Fam I’m dying 😂😂😂😂

  • @amaracrow0501
    @amaracrow0501 Год назад +13

    I wish that they had kept this actor as Laynor. There is a sweetness to him. Say what you want but ladies like Margery and our Queen were Westerous's first great allies.

  • @sharonalicea7998
    @sharonalicea7998 26 дней назад

    She was so sweet to her cousin. She did love him, in a brother like way.

  • @Sabber_shark
    @Sabber_shark 27 дней назад

    "My uncle's great though"
    Im dead💀

  • @Hellzangel115
    @Hellzangel115 Год назад +4

    Arranged marriage never makes sense to me on this setting. Both sets of parents know how their child is and yet still expects them to ignore their true natures and do what has been demanded of them. It was very interesting to see that both laenor and rhaenyra acknowledge their own natures, accept each other as they are, and still try to do whats demanded of them. They both deserve credit here even though we later learn laenor was unable to bring himself to do what was demanded of him they both still triedto function in a healthy way and raise a healthy family.

    • @levia9349
      @levia9349 Год назад

      It ain't about happiness it's about duty. If both were smart enough they could have done thing very differently which made them happy and do their duty

  • @jasonpeters617
    @jasonpeters617 Год назад +5

    Beautiful. This is classic rhaenyra. Bluntly to the point, pure class 101% of the time.👏

  • @casdpasd3032
    @casdpasd3032 Год назад +25

    I hope he comes back for the smoke. I mean sea smoke😂. Him an daemon would be a serious force to reckon with

    • @oblivious_prime
      @oblivious_prime Год назад +1

      Except that would make Aegon III and Viserys II bastards...

    • @haychlc
      @haychlc Год назад

      @@oblivious_prime holy sh*t you’re right . Maybe he comes back as addam velayron for that reason.

    • @alicepie3660
      @alicepie3660 Год назад +1

      @@oblivious_prime No it will not because they had a traditional Targaryen wedding where the person can have two partners. Her children with Daemon is legitimate even if Laenor comes back.

    • @stew-03
      @stew-03 8 месяцев назад

      @@alicepie3660Polygamy is outlawed in westeros, even for targs. The Doctrine of Exceptionalism for targs and valyrian weddings only covers incest.

  • @tracys169
    @tracys169 10 дней назад +2

    This is also when I notice Rhaenyra started changing from what seemed to be an immature 'bratty' princess to a smart-compassionate one. She has realized that tradition-conformity was something she can't quite fight against so she's working around it. She knew that she can't escape the marriage so she's making allies with Laenor (who happens to be her cousin too lol) instead of acting like a brat and put him into a bad position.

  • @MichelMawon4982
    @MichelMawon4982 Месяц назад

    I’m going to need this Laynor story resolved for his parents. They are so loyal while feeling injured by Rhaenera. His mother in particular needs to know he was alive.

  • @Marrrrley
    @Marrrrley Год назад +3

    If only they performed their duty... If her kids were really Velaryon it would've been so much harder to doubt Rhaenyra's claim, c'mon Laenor, you had to perform your duty and after that you dine how you see fit hehe

  • @PokeMasterKelly
    @PokeMasterKelly Год назад +16

    rhaenyra: beeeeee who uuuuu rrrrrrrrrr. for your priiiiiiiiide

  • @sarahholtheuer6080
    @sarahholtheuer6080 10 месяцев назад +2

    For a person her age she seemes pretty wise!

  • @starrmathias9507
    @starrmathias9507 Месяц назад +2

    She never dishonored her husband. They both have an agreement and give each other blessings from the very beginning before they get married. Team Green calling Raeynera a whore is just wrong.

  • @Andre_APM
    @Andre_APM Год назад +9

    I think it makes sense that she didn't judge Laenor's "appetite" considering she had only just began to discover her own.

  • @yeetarmygeetar9982
    @yeetarmygeetar9982 Год назад +83

    we stan an ally ✊

    • @loljewlol
      @loljewlol Год назад +4

      It is hard to stan an ally if she likely bi herself.

    • @loljewlol
      @loljewlol Год назад

      @Acolyte of Dagon perhaps you could relate since you have a k in your comment (a cunt with the letter k).

    • @AdamFeuerauge
      @AdamFeuerauge Год назад +9

      @Acolyte of Dagon being gay is a matter independent of politics, we have literally existed for thousands of years, same with animal-gayness

    • @sybill123ful
      @sybill123ful Год назад +4

      @Acolyte of Dagon bro got mad cause someone made a joke

    • @ficostaffansson6856
      @ficostaffansson6856 2 месяца назад

      I’m heterosexual😎

  • @angelaworld5383
    @angelaworld5383 7 месяцев назад

    That’s right: be respectful and understanding, because at the end of the day, they are people just like you.
    Especially in those times.
    You can basically see the relief in Laenor, with Rhaenyra didn’t judging him or looking at him with disgust (I can only imagine what this boy has to suffer from his father every day)

  • @pjquin9110
    @pjquin9110 9 месяцев назад +1

    I hope we see leanor again or at least rheanera informs rheneas that leanor is still alive somewhere.

  • @keanancupido
    @keanancupido Год назад +5

    I really liked this scene

  • @dmc12ily
    @dmc12ily 22 дня назад

    Group One! In the charms. The soccer ball ⚽️!! He is just playing games & running away with your ❤️

  • @rivamika6955
    @rivamika6955 Месяц назад

    The duck and goose bit was so "pillar and the stones" of her

  • @maggiemorouni8798
    @maggiemorouni8798 Год назад +13

    There’s a conspiracy that her and Alicent were lovers and that’s why their relationship went sour when she was low key forced to marry her father.
    It would explain a lot.

  • @andreasul2608
    @andreasul2608 Год назад +3

    Should just made it quick, make sure their children was from him. Have fun doing whatever with whomever later.

    • @Titanium_Titanium
      @Titanium_Titanium Год назад

      ​@shrodingerscat8909if she had daemon children no one would object rhaenyra inheritance and her children would keep the valyrian bloodline pure

  • @theyouth2000
    @theyouth2000 Месяц назад

    That final caption "Deal". 😂😂😂

  • @ladyassassin1082
    @ladyassassin1082 Год назад +2

    To this day you have a lot of high profile relationships that are like this. That just goes to show you this type of stuff being going on for years.

    • @TJ-fe7rr
      @TJ-fe7rr Год назад

      You say that like it's a bad thing

  • @christinanielsen225
    @christinanielsen225 Год назад +2

    All they would have needed to do is have one child of there own and it would have solved everything...ugh!!! I love both these characters & actors.

  • @DirkDigler209
    @DirkDigler209 Год назад +8

    That was the biggest mistake ever not giving her to Daemon when he asked

    • @yevgeniyaleshchenko849
      @yevgeniyaleshchenko849 8 месяцев назад +1

      "giving her"? She's not a thing. Letting them do that would be more accurate description (because she also wanted that).

  • @Abbyj19
    @Abbyj19 Год назад +1

    “I find it a bit greasy for my taste”
    *my uncles great tho 😂😂

  • @AN-jz3kf
    @AN-jz3kf 10 месяцев назад +2

    While she is being open minded (for their time, especially), it's also just pragmatic. Being into men means he'd probably be having an affair behind her back had she not made the offer anyway. It just allowed her to do the same. And both profited :)