Thank you for the detailed review. Some of the issues you experience have possible solutions listed below: #1 The access port flaps are fastened with velcro so they can be removed and readjusted. It might take some adjustment to make it completely lightproof. #2 The mask's weight is a complex problem to solve for us. First, I would try to tighten the head strap on the top (the middle head strap). This makes it, so more weight is supported by the head strap and not your nose. It is also possible to clip on weight on the back leather part of the head strap to alleviate the weight on the nose. #3 The padding is also fastened with velcro, so adjusting to keep the rough edge away from the nose is possible. #4 The price is set because of our patented lens technology that projects the full phone image to each eye. As a result, you get a higher resolution than if you split the phone image in two and send one picture to each eye. Best Vilde
The access ports should be sealed with nylon brush instead of neoprene flaps. The brush can be attached at one or more edges and will move aside for your finger and spring back into position when your finger is removed, similar to what happens when you poke your finger through a paint brush. High quality commercial rolling steel doors use this brush astragal for guide weatherstripping. It blocks light, conforms to irregular surfaces and will spring back to its original position whenever it's not being displaced by something (like a finger). I will expect a generous royalty on the sale of Dronemask 3 with this feature.
I doubt that adding weight to the back of the strap will help with the comfort level on the nose. Maybe experiment with more comfortable padding and shorten the overall length of the apparatus. I don't see the $200 dollar value either, at most this maybe like a $75 mask..
I got mine yesterday, and I already totally agree with Your pros and cons. Would I buy it again? Yes, because the immersion with my DJI Mini 4 Pro is phantastic!
I'm not usually in the habit of commenting. But in this case, I just have to. I ordered my DronMask 2 before watching your video and it's a good thing I ordered sooner, because maybe your video would have put me off buying it, and that would have been my loss. I don't know, I really don't know why you are so negative about this product. After the first use, I can only say that I am delighted with the product, and I don't see any complaints. The quality of production, the comfort of wearing, the quality of the image, everything is beyond expectations... I have nothing to do with the manufacturer, I am just a user who is satisfied with this product and can recommend it to anyone.
I don't understand the choice of "Velcro flaps" to solve the access to screen problem, to me it's sort of obvious that these will never settle back into place when used. (you disturb the velcro seal and then can't reseat them). Personally i'd have gone for access holes (circular) seald with a soft rubbber disc, split evry 90 degrees or every 45 degrees from the circumference to the middle. These would allow the user to insert their finger to access the screen and self seal when the finger is withdrawn. Call it a simple self sealing valve, if you like. The issues concerning COG, heavy phone placed far forward of the face, should be solvable by a bettter headstrap adjustment and larger soft pad at the back of the head and possibly lighter materials? I love what this system offers, an FPV experience without the enormous expense of added electronics. A simple and elegant solution because every drone pilot is also going to own a phone, for me the purchase price is still too high and i'm sure it prevents many more prospective customers from commiting to purchasing. It's great to see that Dronemask is listening to customer's and trying to improve it's product, reducing the price would be the only direction to go in my opinion. Instead of including USB cables (who doesn't have a ton of those arround the house already!), drop the price to a more affordable level and maybe more people will be tempted to give them a try.
Yeah, these are some excellent points. DroneMask could be a great product for the right price, but unless they go beyond making a D-grade effort to actually listening to customers AND improving things, is never gonna happen. It seems so obvious that velcro seals were not a good idea. We're just a couple of drone hobbyists here in the youtube comments, and we figured it out. So it begs the question, how did this ever pass to make it to production? They did not do enough testing in my opinion, or they had bad testers that told them "everything is great." This is not rocket science, and it is not hard to figure out. I get it that they're a small company, but this is not an excuse to give them a pass. DroneMask should actually look at what DJI did with their new Integra goggle that I just reviewed. Adding a head pillow/pad and a lock strap mechanism that stays in place, and helps pull the goggle up off the face. By the way, about the cable... I agree that if they were just going to raise the price to include retail cost of cables, then they shouldn't have bothered. You would probably be surprised about how many iPhone users in particular simply do not have a USB-C to Apple lightning cable. As an iPhone user, I have had no real need to buy one. 🤷♂️
Thank you guys so much for the update and the heads up to the flap problem it's much appreciated. Sorry Drone Mask even though I really wanted this experience with my Drones, this is just not ready for prime time with the flap bug. Just a closing thought that you might could sew a loop or a tab to the outside of the flap to pull it back into formation. back to the drawing board, 3rd time is the charm!
Honestly, what we are going to end up doing with this mask is just use it for spectating my DJI fpv flight, or maybe for me to watch when my friends fly the avata. Patrick has an old lighter weight android phone that used to be his wifes that we can use for that purpose. That's the only thing this is good for to us... spectating is definitely not worth spending $180 for in most cases...
I am using the Drone Mask 2 and for the price is... pretty OK. Reasons: ordinary cheap VR glasses need an app that DOES not work with DJI apps, only with Litchi. So most of VR glasses that cost less or close to this ALSO have to be with phone inside, which means MENU is totally unacessable. So Meek. After trying to "make the think" I didnt suceeded with VR glasses there is NO alternative to do that for DJI drones that DO NOT support FPV Gogless.... Fly app does not give anymore VR option, so an external screen means you need extra cables and connectors in order to connect it with.. some sort of gogless with built in screen. Most of the gogless you cnow ...they cost a lot more. A lot of apps even for games do not work with VR apps. I think for the price that costs it is pretty good product. Since it is a SIGNLE lence I dont see any other way this to be with less weight except if they dont make it only from foam ( there was a similar product with foam only and for some reason it dissapeared and people ware actually complaining that it weights even more than DM ). I am using this product with Autel Nano, DJI Air 2S, Mini 2, and Inspire 1. With a phone 6,5 inches ( Samsung A52 ) - work phone only to controll drones it is enough. I belive if the product gets popular the price will come down.
Phantom 3 advanced actually has a modification you can install to the transmitter to get HDMI output. Search up Phantom 3 advanced HDMI out. It is not going to be cheap, I think $100 for the radio mod. For goggles, there’s Skyzone Cobra S which I believe accept HDMI input on 800x600 resolution. Those are $160 though because they are also real FPV goggles with an included analog video receiver too, if you have any interest in doing FPV with other drones. I’m not sure about any cheaper options, that’s quite an expensive setup but if money isn’t an object then it would be superior over the DroneMask.
I actually tried with the material that came with the mask but the outside material wouldnt stick to the velcro very well. I totally agree it would have been a better solution.
@@1EyeInTheSky I suggest removing the original flap and stick Velcro on the outside with a new flap. Would look damn ugly and you shouldn’t have to do that to a piece of kit that is already overpriced!
I see lots or YT'brs (affiliates) pushing this product in reviews... OMG.. the price is really high for basically a phone headset... dont' Box goggles start at about $10 ?
Hi! The reason for the price is that we have our own patented lens technology that projects the full phone image to each eye. As a result, you get a higher resolution than if you were to split the phone image in two and send one image to each eye. We are a small company from Norway with a passion to give people immersive experiences with all-camera drones, with no need for any third-party apps. As far as I am concerned, there is no other mask on the market that does the same. Best regards, Vilde
Great review. You are the first review that really told us the negative things about this product. All others were saying this is great. Glad I am across this.
I don't have a use to apply this product but great job on the transparent review! It's refreshing to see an open and honest review on a tech product in a sea of "gee wiz this is great" (while the product is not great) reviews.
Hi Josh Great video and review of the DroneMask V2, I have wanted something like this for flying my mini around. And I like the holes that way you can get to the buttons, But the price is Ridiculous, Thanks for the video and information about this setup
Great honest review as always Mr Cuppi👍 Goggles for camera bird flights is a great idea when sunlight is a problem. I use a cheap pair of box goggles that came in a kit with my first ever drone (An air hogs toy quad that I lost in the wind) I kept the goggles and they work great using Litchi's VR mode. Yes there is a little light leakage and I have to open it to adjust settings but hey , beats 180 dollars. 😁
Great “tell it like it is “ review John and Patrick! Not a big fan of flying with goggles myself but if the big issue of weight and better flap design could be tackled with a more palatable price this could be a good option. Back to the drawing board!
Thanks Flynn. I am not sure there will be a future revision of this product. It does fill a niche in the market, and could be so much better if it was cheaper and had some more product development, but... it is what it is.
A very simple solution would be for the flaps to be on the outside rather than inside with a magnet to hold them into place. Then you could easily and quickly open it with one hand to stick your finger in and the magnet would snap it back into place automatically. And as for the weight we have to be fair, most of that comes from your phone. Any mask where youre basically wearing your phone on your face youre going to have this issue even with the regular insert vr goggles. Theres nothing the company can really do about that. But yes i agree it should definitely be a lot cheaper. Its not much different than the $20 vr goggles it just has a single lens that doesn't require split screen vr apps. I dont know if the lens is worth an extra $150.
@@JohnCuppi It's kind of surprising to me that noone else makes a non vr single lens mask. You get the plus of being able to watch regular movies and YT videos without needing to split the screen for vr. I just ordered these but I'm going to use it for a lot more than flying so I guess I'm trying to rationalize the price that way, but still...nice review btw 👍🏿
@@ITech2005 Thanks! The feedback is appreciated. And, if you intend to use them for movies, that makes them a lot more applicable and less issues apply. When watching a movie even with a heavy phone you can at least kick back in a recliner and let the mask rest that way, rather than pulling straight down. I think these are a much better product as far as a movie mask, but if I had to guess, it probably has not sold very well marked toward it. I personally have no interest in watching a movie in vr goggles like these, and the sticker price is a shocker to many who might consider it for that purpose alone.
Thanks for a much more Honest review. I could foresee all these issues and was glad to see you expose them. In AUD these are a Whopping $300 - zero chance in hell I'd spend that, and I feel a price more like $80AUD is more suited.
It looks like they tried to make some improvement to first version of these goggles. The flaps on the side to access your screen was a good idea, but needed to figure how to do it without adding light leak. But I don't know they solve the problem of todays larger cell phones adding too much weight to front of the goggles. And these goggles still seem a bit overpriced for what your getting. Great review by both John and Patrick, thanks for sharing.
It sounds like they tried for sure....but not everything that looks good on paper turns into a well functioning product, lol. The flaps are a great idea, but I agree that if they were smaller and maybe used rubber rather than thin material they would sit much better once your finger is removed. Also, that weight is wayyyyy higher than I thought it would be even without the phone. Maybe if this was a sub $100 product I could see it being tolerable for the money, but at that price point I would expect it to be well tested and have the ergonomics of everything worked out before I pay for it.
I was shocked when I weighed it too. 424g for just the mask alone is ridiculous. Sub $100 with some corrections to the flaws they’d probably have something worth farting around with. Thanks for the comment Mr Bacon 🥓
I have the solution to the flap problem. Nylon brush astragal. Think of what happens when you poke your finger through a wide but thin paint brush and pull it out again. Same principle.
It would have markets as a movie mask, but cell phone movie watchers won't be paying 180$ for something like this. For that money you expect to get used AR & VR-glasses, not a glorified shoe box.
Thanks for your review of the DroneMask 2. You kept it real! I own the first "Original" DroneMask that came out. You were close with the name but I don't think you were correct in calling it MovieMask! It was actually called the MagiMask. I paid pretty good money for it and mine was shipped in from overseas when it was first produced. I enjoy the clarity of the view window, but it was pretty useless when adjusting the settings, so I rarely use it and will not be buying the DroneMask 2. I have been thinking about the DJI Goggles but I'm not too fond of the prices. One last comment, I did love not having to deal with sun glare when wearing them but that was pretty much it. Thanks for sharing.
I can’t wait to get my Mask I bought it for Gaming and Movies instead of Drone flying so yeah all these “issues” won’t apply except the price but I got mine with a couple of Discounts because of shipping Issues and a discount code twas still a lot for this but it won’t go Obsolete with Future Phones unless size changes but yeah this is more then just a One Trick Pony you can use this for Movies and Games and AR as well the Guys who invented the lenses started out trying to Replicate the Theater experience
better off just buying a blue tooth mouse and linking that to your phone . i have one and it works but i have not really needed it . all my settings are set and i only need to hit "record" before my flight . they tried ,but its a fail . maybe include a blue tooth mouse and raise the asking price like 10 bucks .
I remember your suggestion on this from the DroneMask 1 video we made! Thanks for the input. Yes, that might have been a better value for $10…. Instead they just raised the price $10 and added cables.
@@organiccleanfoodconnection the first edition drone mask is just fine ,if its even available anymore . i just set all my camera settings before flight (set it and forget it ) then i hit record and off i go . never felt the need to go back in after take off . there is no better phone drone mask in my opinion . the optics are fantastic . you know these are only for drones that use a phone to view footage right?? for regular fpv drones there's tons of goggles to choose from
I don't know why you are so worried about having to constantly click on the screen and thus completely peel off the covering layer of those holes. After all, I set it up before the start, and I fly, I tune the rest with the controller, after all, no one flies in the air for an hour straight to need to constantly tune something. After all, we have a controller where you can set a lot of commands to the click. I admit that the price tag is high, but if you take the phone classically or in this way, I choose this one.
I change EV bias a lot as well between shots and I don't know if that can be assigned to a button or not on the RCN1. I literally do this via the option in the lower area of the screen to make sure subject isn't improperly exposed by the automatic settings. QuickShots / MasterShots are also really useful to me, and this setup makes them a pain. Circle mode, for example can rotate around an object more accurately than I can on the sticks. You can get to them but you need to guess where they are, and some of the lower options are blocked unless you scroll. Which is another point: for the most part, you're right, I won't change my actual video settings from 4k @ 24 or 4k @ 60. But if you want to access cool features like the dolly zoom on the Air 2, you have to be in 1080p. So there may be a point that you want to switch out to get to that. If your plan is to just set everything in auto and fly, then sure, that'll work, but the clunky access to change settings on a camera bird is indeed a deal breaker for some. And the sad thing is, all they had to do was come up with a more creative idea than throwing down some floppy fabric straps.
Yeah - some small one finger size flap - although having its own limitations, would have been better than the cheap-o huge holes + Velcro they cut in this thing.
Yup! To be fair, though, that’s gonna cost you another $300+ over the DroneMask. So, if they came down on price and fixed the issues, there could still be a possible market for this.
I'll have to disagree, I haven't had any of these problems. The side adjustment holes close up just fine, it's not too heavy for my neck and it's super comfortable. I couldn't be happier. I'm flying places that I would never have the balls to fly before. My mask is totally dark even in the super bright sun of midday. The footage that I'm getting now is incredible. I don't know what young professor Frink and Jim Gaffigan did to their DroneMask 2 but mine is awesome!
@@JohnCuppi Cool, I'm glad you found that funny, you guys look like a couple of good dudes and now I know that you also have a good sense of humor. Subbed
i had a set of viper fpv v2 goggles that i love, unfortanatly i broke the curved mirror during a fc controller failure and lost video feed and drpped the goggles trying to save drone, i used them withouth theface gasket, i loved that i could just look down and walk around while flying, if you have right adapter you can clone your phone through hdmi input and just leave the phone down on controllers as normal
Nice concept, but the price is outrageous. I might buy it for $20, never for $179. Btw, now you can buy a Bluetooth mouse controller for your phone, so you don't even need the flaps for your finger to touch the phone. BT works with the dronemask 1, too. P.s. buy the BT mouse controller that you hold in your hand n use your thumb to move the tiny joystick on top. Make sure you use a lanyard to attached it to your wrist. Not your regular table top mouse.
That would still probably be pretty cumbersome but it’s really the best way to use this. I would of course rather they fix the design of the mask though so that a second device isn’t needed. Thanks for the feedback!
What is the alternative? I guess I'll take your advise, save the money, stick my Mini 2 in a drawer and spend $6 or $800 on an FPV drone. BTW, how does that save money?
Actually, it's the DroneMask that will end up in the drawer unused. After you take it out for a few times and realize it is an annoying as hell experience, you won't want to use it. The Mini 2 will still be the great camera quad it was intended to be, though. We are not alone in our take on this product - many have literally purchased it, saw our video having run into similar issues, told us they wish they had watched this first and they didn't waste their money. So, look, if you want to fly your Mini 2 FPV that badly and that's your ONLY goal, then go ahead and buy it. You are informed about the flaws we encountered, so if you buy it knowing that, and are willing to deal with it, I see no problem. An alternative? Well, just because there isn't a cleanly package alternative does NOT necessarily make a poorly executed product worth buying. Best of luck, who knows, maybe you'll be happy with it. 🤞
For which drone? Now that some manufacturers like dji have goggles that will work with their drones, it is something to consider. For example DJI Integra goggles for $350 work with some camera drones, such as DJI Mavic 3 Pro, DJI Mavic 3 Pro Cine, DJI Mavic 3, DJI Mavic 3 Cine, DJI Mavic 3 Classic, and DJI Mini 3 Pro.
This is one of the reasons we lean so hard into criticism of this product, and some people don’t understand that. I agree with you. If they charged no more than $80-$100 USD shipped with cables and everything included, then ok - if they fixed just a couple of the flaws with it like the crappy flaps. I could let go of the heavy phone issue, but when they’re telling me I should try to put even more weight on my head to counter balance the damn thing… at this price, come on… This is not worth $180 as-is. Not even close. Thanks for the feedback.
This is a good idea, actually, and is probably one of the best options for having control over the screen. But, it also means that you are stuck ensuring that you have a flat, level surface to put a mouse on. And, if you’re going to just use mouse then that right there is another reason to consider not paying for DroneMask and buying cheaper goggles. At least half of the appeal of DroneMask 2 is the access flaps to get to the menus without needing ANOTHER device. Well, it’s supposed to be, anyway. Great suggestion though, thank you for taking the time to comment. 👍😎
I would advise anyone serious about FPV to not waste their money. I've been flying drones for years including Phantoms, Mini 2, Mavic Pro, S800 and Inspire using different headsets and found the Drone Mask 2 to be overpriced and flawed. The view straight forward is pretty good but the division between the two sides of the lens will block the view to the edge of the screen from the far eye. Phone used was a Galaxy S8. What's worse is "customer service" didn't respond to two emails for 3 weeks until I filed a PayPal claim. Now they want me to send it back to Norway from the United States. The shipping cost would be horrendous. Then they did the Chinese trick of offering a 50% discount to keep it, even though I explained to them it was worthless to me because of the design flaw. Just a lousy experience.
Patrick was given the same offer for DroneMask 1. He took it because as you said, returning it to Norway would have been too expensive. Sold it locally to someone for cheap, about the price it should be sold retail…
The best you're going to do is a $20 dollar phone-holder VR glasses, paired with litchi app that lets you split the image and fly drone. You have to quickly take it down when something happens and take it of the holder, so it's not as nice as the drone mask but it's FAR cheaper. Litchi app is $30 and you can get the VR phone glasses for $20 bucks anywhere. You will have a lot of the same problems though with a heavy phone that we did no matter what. There is really no way to have a "great" experience with any of these solutions. I would possibly reevaluate exactly why you want to fly the DJI Air 2S with Goggles in the first place. If it's to improve your visibility in the sunny conditions for example, I think spending that money on the DJI RC with the FHD display is much more worth your while. That was the main reason my friend Patrick bought the DroneMask, but since the RC with FHD was made compatible with the Mavic Air 2S, he decided to get that instead. Unfortunately, as you said, DJI has not made the Air 2S compatible with any of their official goggles. If, for whatever reason, you MUST fly this FPV and the cost does not matter, I'm afraid the dronemask is probably your only option if you want to stick with the official DJI Fly App.
It does a sub-par job for what they're asking for it -- that's probably the biggest issue. If they went back and addressed the issue with the flaps / light leak, and dropped the price by about $100 then they would not only make more sales but the experience would match the price for the product.
They still missed to check the product BEFORE releasing it. Now it has improved but still too short. The weight in the back is not solution until you might replace the strap over the head with a kind of helmet but I doubt . I do still have and fly a Mavic 2 Pro with the DJI goggles racing edition and that has such helmet style ring and battery weight in the back of the head but still heavy. The finger touch must work well, so they need a kind of curtain and a more balanced version cause otherwise it will not work. But the core issue is the high amount of mass far away from your eyes (depending on the weight / size of your phone) and I had tried some of these 3 or 4 years ago cause my best screen is usually the phone. Regarding touch control there could also be a way of a kind of remote in theory that could be used to jump and click through the menus and get back (ESC), but that would require a good bt remote cause a USB connected remote would not really work cause then the whole thing would become a mess with such connector on the phones edge. It needs quite more thoughts and prototypes to get that right and useable but I bet there is a market for 2 big reasons * phone has ususally best screen * people with glasses suffer from mosts of the other goggles cause they need box styled goggles like this one Good work and review and the best starting point they could get to build version 3 but hopefully this time as beta for testing and sharing. If they do it on their own without a test clinic or you as beta tester then it will takes ages to get a useable product. Good luck - and now I have to check where Missouri is cause the only things I know is the Battleship Missouri and that you are flying along the Mississipi so I have a glimpse where to look: somewhere in the middle most likely south of chicago / Illiiinois cause relatives have emigrate over a century ago to St. Louis and had written in their letters about Missouri and Kentucky.
DroneMask reached out to me on October 4th to send a pair to test and provide feedback, but the reality is that DroneMask 2 at that point was already set in stone. The product was not going to change since they had set a launch day to be today. Had they contacted us months in advance to field test this, all of this feedback could have been provided to them to make an actual change BEFORE the launch. We would have loved to get the opportunity to send this feedback for them to make improvements. I am wondering if at this point there will even be a DroneMask 3, if after almost a year this is their best effort on the 2.
Dang I was getting ready to buy until I saw this flap issue. How dumb. What idiot decided this was acceptable? They should of installed doors. Well I guess I'm not buying now!
When DroneMask reached out to us and said they came up with a way to access the screen, I was really intrigued to see what they did to the mask. Pretty much immediately after I opened the box and simply saw what the cloth cut-out solution was … I was disappointed. But kept an open mind. It became apparent just moments after putting the mask on and trying it outdoors in the sun what a mistake the flap design is.
@@JDDupuy If only there were more people at some of these drone companies like you!👍I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten a drone product and wondered how did it manage to be given the OK to get to this point...
Thank you for the detailed review. Some of the issues you experience have possible solutions listed below:
#1 The access port flaps are fastened with velcro so they can be removed and readjusted. It might take some adjustment to make it completely lightproof.
#2 The mask's weight is a complex problem to solve for us. First, I would try to tighten the head strap on the top (the middle head strap). This makes it, so more weight is supported by the head strap and not your nose. It is also possible to clip on weight on the back leather part of the head strap to alleviate the weight on the nose.
#3 The padding is also fastened with velcro, so adjusting to keep the rough edge away from the nose is possible.
#4 The price is set because of our patented lens technology that projects the full phone image to each eye. As a result, you get a higher resolution than if you split the phone image in two and send one picture to each eye.
Best
Vilde
I think the price is well worth it. Even with A Heavy phone I still do not find it difficult to adjust.
The access ports should be sealed with nylon brush instead of neoprene flaps. The brush can be attached at one or more edges and will move aside for your finger and spring back into position when your finger is removed, similar to what happens when you poke your finger through a paint brush. High quality commercial rolling steel doors use this brush astragal for guide weatherstripping. It blocks light, conforms to irregular surfaces and will spring back to its original position whenever it's not being displaced by something (like a finger).
I will expect a generous royalty on the sale of Dronemask 3 with this feature.
I doubt that adding weight to the back of the strap will help with the comfort level on the nose. Maybe experiment with more comfortable padding and shorten the overall length of the apparatus. I don't see the $200 dollar value either, at most this maybe like a $75 mask..
I got mine yesterday, and I already totally agree with Your pros and cons. Would I buy it again? Yes, because the immersion with my DJI Mini 4 Pro is phantastic!
I'm not usually in the habit of commenting.
But in this case, I just have to. I ordered my DronMask 2 before watching your video and it's a good thing I ordered sooner, because maybe your video would have put me off buying it, and that would have been my loss.
I don't know, I really don't know why you are so negative about this product. After the first use, I can only say that I am delighted with the product, and I don't see any complaints. The quality of production, the comfort of wearing, the quality of the image, everything is beyond expectations...
I have nothing to do with the manufacturer, I am just a user who is satisfied with this product and can recommend it to anyone.
Great comment. Thanks for sharing for your experience! It’s awesome that you loved it, and that it worked out for you. 🙂
I don't understand the choice of "Velcro flaps" to solve the access to screen problem, to me it's sort of obvious that these will never settle back into place when used. (you disturb the velcro seal and then can't reseat them). Personally i'd have gone for access holes (circular) seald with a soft rubbber disc, split evry 90 degrees or every 45 degrees from the circumference to the middle. These would allow the user to insert their finger to access the screen and self seal when the finger is withdrawn. Call it a simple self sealing valve, if you like. The issues concerning COG, heavy phone placed far forward of the face, should be solvable by a bettter headstrap adjustment and larger soft pad at the back of the head and possibly lighter materials?
I love what this system offers, an FPV experience without the enormous expense of added electronics. A simple and elegant solution because every drone pilot is also going to own a phone, for me the purchase price is still too high and i'm sure it prevents many more prospective customers from commiting to purchasing.
It's great to see that Dronemask is listening to customer's and trying to improve it's product, reducing the price would be the only direction to go in my opinion. Instead of including USB cables (who doesn't have a ton of those arround the house already!), drop the price to a more affordable level and maybe more people will be tempted to give them a try.
Yeah, these are some excellent points. DroneMask could be a great product for the right price, but unless they go beyond making a D-grade effort to actually listening to customers AND improving things, is never gonna happen.
It seems so obvious that velcro seals were not a good idea. We're just a couple of drone hobbyists here in the youtube comments, and we figured it out. So it begs the question, how did this ever pass to make it to production? They did not do enough testing in my opinion, or they had bad testers that told them "everything is great." This is not rocket science, and it is not hard to figure out. I get it that they're a small company, but this is not an excuse to give them a pass.
DroneMask should actually look at what DJI did with their new Integra goggle that I just reviewed. Adding a head pillow/pad and a lock strap mechanism that stays in place, and helps pull the goggle up off the face.
By the way, about the cable... I agree that if they were just going to raise the price to include retail cost of cables, then they shouldn't have bothered. You would probably be surprised about how many iPhone users in particular simply do not have a USB-C to Apple lightning cable. As an iPhone user, I have had no real need to buy one. 🤷♂️
It's really cool mask, would absolutely get it if it cost like 20 or 30 bucks.. :(
Thank you guys so much for the update and the heads up to the flap problem it's much appreciated. Sorry Drone Mask even though I really wanted this experience with my Drones, this is just not ready for prime time with the flap bug. Just a closing thought that you might could sew a loop or a tab to the outside of the flap to pull it back into formation. back to the drawing board, 3rd time is the charm!
Honestly, what we are going to end up doing with this mask is just use it for spectating my DJI fpv flight, or maybe for me to watch when my friends fly the avata. Patrick has an old lighter weight android phone that used to be his wifes that we can use for that purpose. That's the only thing this is good for to us... spectating is definitely not worth spending $180 for in most cases...
I am using the Drone Mask 2 and for the price is... pretty OK. Reasons:
ordinary cheap VR glasses need an app that DOES not work with DJI apps, only with Litchi. So most of VR glasses that cost less or close to this ALSO have to be with phone inside, which means MENU is totally unacessable. So Meek. After trying to "make the think" I didnt suceeded with VR glasses there is NO alternative to do that for DJI drones that DO NOT support FPV Gogless.... Fly app does not give anymore VR option, so an external screen means you need extra cables and connectors in order to connect it with.. some sort of gogless with built in screen. Most of the gogless you cnow ...they cost a lot more. A lot of apps even for games do not work with VR apps. I think for the price that costs it is pretty good product. Since it is a SIGNLE lence I dont see any other way this to be with less weight except if they dont make it only from foam ( there was a similar product with foam only and for some reason it dissapeared and people ware actually complaining that it weights even more than DM ). I am using this product with Autel Nano, DJI Air 2S, Mini 2, and Inspire 1. With a phone 6,5 inches ( Samsung A52 ) - work phone only to controll drones it is enough. I belive if the product gets popular the price will come down.
I still think it’s a pretty “meh” experience for what users pay to have these - but to each their own! 🤗
Great honest review, when I looked at the price my thought was huh uh
The price is quite a sticker shock, isn't it?
@@JohnCuppi Heck yea, I was expecting $40 at the most
Glade that I found this video, I was considering getting this item, to use with my DJI Phantom 3 Advance. Wonder what my other options are?
Phantom 3 advanced actually has a modification you can install to the transmitter to get HDMI output. Search up Phantom 3 advanced HDMI out. It is not going to be cheap, I think $100 for the radio mod. For goggles, there’s Skyzone Cobra S which I believe accept HDMI input on 800x600 resolution. Those are $160 though because they are also real FPV goggles with an included analog video receiver too, if you have any interest in doing FPV with other drones. I’m not sure about any cheaper options, that’s quite an expensive setup but if money isn’t an object then it would be superior over the DroneMask.
@@JohnCuppi thanks for the info John! I have the DJI V2 goggles for my FPV freestyle drones, would the V2s work with the mode you are referring too?
@@RC-Flight unfortunately, the DJI V2 goggles do not have HDMI input. I have them too and I wish they did. Major bummer on DJI’s part. -.-
Why didn’t they put the Velcro on the outside so that you could easily close! 🤦♂️
I actually tried with the material that came with the mask but the outside material wouldnt stick to the velcro very well. I totally agree it would have been a better solution.
@@1EyeInTheSky I suggest removing the original flap and stick Velcro on the outside with a new flap. Would look damn ugly and you shouldn’t have to do that to a piece of kit that is already overpriced!
I see lots or YT'brs (affiliates) pushing this product in reviews... OMG.. the price is really high for basically a phone headset... dont' Box goggles start at about $10 ?
As an affiliate, you can make 15% commission on this. Something to think about.
Hi! The reason for the price is that we have our own patented lens technology that projects the full phone image to each eye. As a result, you get a higher resolution than if you were to split the phone image in two and send one image to each eye. We are a small company from Norway with a passion to give people immersive experiences with all-camera drones, with no need for any third-party apps. As far as I am concerned, there is no other mask on the market that does the same.
Best regards, Vilde
@@JohnCuppi : Sorry but if they are giving 15% away.. they can lower their pricing.
@@GorillamansGarage That was my point! 😄
@@VildeatDroneMask : I appreciate your response. We seem to disagree on the market interest of such devices.
Great review. You are the first review that really told us the negative things about this product. All others were saying this is great. Glad I am across this.
@1eyeinthesky and I really appreciate this!
I don't have a use to apply this product but great job on the transparent review! It's refreshing to see an open and honest review on a tech product in a sea of "gee wiz this is great" (while the product is not great) reviews.
I appreciate that!
Hi Josh Great video and review of the DroneMask V2, I have wanted something like this for flying my mini around. And I like the holes that way you can get to the buttons, But the price is Ridiculous, Thanks for the video and information about this setup
Agreed JohnnyD, it's still too expensive for the experience you end up with. Thanks for stopping by and for your feedback.
Great honest review as always Mr Cuppi👍
Goggles for camera bird flights is a great idea when sunlight is a problem. I use a cheap pair of box goggles that came in a kit with my first ever drone (An air hogs toy quad that I lost in the wind)
I kept the goggles and they work great using Litchi's VR mode. Yes there is a little light leakage and I have to open it to adjust settings but hey , beats 180 dollars. 😁
Great “tell it like it is “ review John and Patrick! Not a big fan of flying with goggles myself but if the big issue of weight and better flap design could be tackled with a more palatable price this could be a good option. Back to the drawing board!
Thanks Flynn. I am not sure there will be a future revision of this product. It does fill a niche in the market, and could be so much better if it was cheaper and had some more product development, but... it is what it is.
A very simple solution would be for the flaps to be on the outside rather than inside with a magnet to hold them into place. Then you could easily and quickly open it with one hand to stick your finger in and the magnet would snap it back into place automatically. And as for the weight we have to be fair, most of that comes from your phone. Any mask where youre basically wearing your phone on your face youre going to have this issue even with the regular insert vr goggles. Theres nothing the company can really do about that. But yes i agree it should definitely be a lot cheaper. Its not much different than the $20 vr goggles it just has a single lens that doesn't require split screen vr apps. I dont know if the lens is worth an extra $150.
Great idea.
@@JohnCuppi It's kind of surprising to me that noone else makes a non vr single lens mask. You get the plus of being able to watch regular movies and YT videos without needing to split the screen for vr. I just ordered these but I'm going to use it for a lot more than flying so I guess I'm trying to rationalize the price that way, but still...nice review btw 👍🏿
@@ITech2005 Thanks! The feedback is appreciated. And, if you intend to use them for movies, that makes them a lot more applicable and less issues apply.
When watching a movie even with a heavy phone you can at least kick back in a recliner and let the mask rest that way, rather than pulling straight down.
I think these are a much better product as far as a movie mask, but if I had to guess, it probably has not sold very well marked toward it. I personally have no interest in watching a movie in vr goggles like these, and the sticker price is a shocker to many who might consider it for that purpose alone.
A little modification stops that light coming through the finger slots.
Its still way better than trying to see a phone screen in the open sunlight.
Thank you. great review. For me is just too expensive. I could put up with some of the draw backs but at the end...too expensive.
good honest review
Thanks for a much more Honest review.
I could foresee all these issues and was glad to see you expose them.
In AUD these are a Whopping $300 - zero chance in hell I'd spend that, and I feel a price more like $80AUD is more suited.
It looks like they tried to make some improvement to first version of these goggles. The flaps on the side to access your screen was a good idea, but needed to figure how to do it without adding light leak. But I don't know they solve the problem of todays larger cell phones adding too much weight to front of the goggles. And these goggles still seem a bit overpriced for what your getting. Great review by both John and Patrick, thanks for sharing.
Thanks Ron!
Thanks Ron!
The could just put the flaps on the outside with a magnetic clasp so they open outward rather than inwards which requires you to dig them back out.
It sounds like they tried for sure....but not everything that looks good on paper turns into a well functioning product, lol. The flaps are a great idea, but I agree that if they were smaller and maybe used rubber rather than thin material they would sit much better once your finger is removed. Also, that weight is wayyyyy higher than I thought it would be even without the phone. Maybe if this was a sub $100 product I could see it being tolerable for the money, but at that price point I would expect it to be well tested and have the ergonomics of everything worked out before I pay for it.
I was shocked when I weighed it too. 424g for just the mask alone is ridiculous. Sub $100 with some corrections to the flaws they’d probably have something worth farting around with. Thanks for the comment Mr Bacon 🥓
I have the solution to the flap problem.
Nylon brush astragal. Think of what happens when you poke your finger through a wide but thin paint brush and pull it out again. Same principle.
Makes sense!
It would have markets as a movie mask, but cell phone movie watchers won't be paying 180$ for something like this. For that money you expect to get used AR & VR-glasses, not a glorified shoe box.
To expensive to me as well
Thanks for your review of the DroneMask 2. You kept it real! I own the first "Original" DroneMask that came out. You were close with the name but I don't think you were correct in calling it MovieMask! It was actually called the MagiMask. I paid pretty good money for it and mine was shipped in from overseas when it was first produced. I enjoy the clarity of the view window, but it was pretty useless when adjusting the settings, so I rarely use it and will not be buying the DroneMask 2. I have been thinking about the DJI Goggles but I'm not too fond of the prices. One last comment, I did love not having to deal with sun glare when wearing them but that was pretty much it. Thanks for sharing.
You are right the mask is officially called MagiMask but the website for it and logo is moviemask dot io. The MagiMask by MovieMask, apparently. 🙃
@@JohnCuppi LOL!
I can’t wait to get my Mask I bought it for Gaming and Movies instead of Drone flying so yeah all these “issues” won’t apply except the price but I got mine with a couple of Discounts because of shipping Issues and a discount code twas still a lot for this but it won’t go Obsolete with Future Phones unless size changes but yeah this is more then just a One Trick Pony you can use this for Movies and Games and AR as well the Guys who invented the lenses started out trying to Replicate the Theater experience
better off just buying a blue tooth mouse and linking that to your phone . i have one and it works but i have not really needed it . all my settings are set and i only need to hit "record" before my flight . they tried ,but its a fail . maybe include a blue tooth mouse and raise the asking price like 10 bucks .
I remember your suggestion on this from the DroneMask 1 video we made! Thanks for the input. Yes, that might have been a better value for $10…. Instead they just raised the price $10 and added cables.
Do you have a better mask suggestion?
@@organiccleanfoodconnection the first edition drone mask is just fine ,if its even available anymore . i just set all my camera settings before flight (set it and forget it ) then i hit record and off i go . never felt the need to go back in after take off . there is no better phone drone mask in my opinion . the optics are fantastic . you know these are only for drones that use a phone to view footage right??
for regular fpv drones there's tons of goggles to choose from
Well done John, thank you.
Many thanks!
Thank you guys for making this video! It was very helpful
Our pleasure!
I don't know why you are so worried about having to constantly click on the screen and thus completely peel off the covering layer of those holes. After all, I set it up before the start, and I fly, I tune the rest with the controller, after all, no one flies in the air for an hour straight to need to constantly tune something. After all, we have a controller where you can set a lot of commands to the click. I admit that the price tag is high, but if you take the phone classically or in this way, I choose this one.
I change EV bias a lot as well between shots and I don't know if that can be assigned to a button or not on the RCN1. I literally do this via the option in the lower area of the screen to make sure subject isn't improperly exposed by the automatic settings.
QuickShots / MasterShots are also really useful to me, and this setup makes them a pain. Circle mode, for example can rotate around an object more accurately than I can on the sticks. You can get to them but you need to guess where they are, and some of the lower options are blocked unless you scroll.
Which is another point: for the most part, you're right, I won't change my actual video settings from 4k @ 24 or 4k @ 60. But if you want to access cool features like the dolly zoom on the Air 2, you have to be in 1080p. So there may be a point that you want to switch out to get to that.
If your plan is to just set everything in auto and fly, then sure, that'll work, but the clunky access to change settings on a camera bird is indeed a deal breaker for some. And the sad thing is, all they had to do was come up with a more creative idea than throwing down some floppy fabric straps.
Great collaboration, John and Patrick.
Hey thanks Kris, your support is always appreciated.
Thanks Kris! I really appreciate it.
@@JohnCuppi They should hire you guys to test it out before they manufacture their next product! You both made some good critiques.
I would glue magnets to the flap, or just redesign the flaps for one finger, not the whole hand.
Yeah - some small one finger size flap - although having its own limitations, would have been better than the cheap-o huge holes + Velcro they cut in this thing.
Thank you for sharing! Now we have DJI Goggles Integra Motion Combo compatible with mini 3pro.
Yup! To be fair, though, that’s gonna cost you another $300+ over the DroneMask. So, if they came down on price and fixed the issues, there could still be a possible market for this.
I'll have to disagree, I haven't had any of these problems. The side adjustment holes close up just fine, it's not too heavy for my neck and it's super comfortable. I couldn't be happier. I'm flying places that I would never have the balls to fly before. My mask is totally dark even in the super bright sun of midday. The footage that I'm getting now is incredible. I don't know what young professor Frink and Jim Gaffigan did to their DroneMask 2 but mine is awesome!
Dude that’s perfect. My friend already knows he’s Jim Gaffigan but Prof Frink is going to be my new pilot name now. 🤓
@@JohnCuppi Cool, I'm glad you found that funny, you guys look like a couple of good dudes and now I know that you also have a good sense of humor. Subbed
Great and honest we view, John and Patrick
i had a set of viper fpv v2 goggles that i love, unfortanatly i broke the curved mirror during a fc controller failure and lost video feed and drpped the goggles trying to save drone, i used them withouth theface gasket, i loved that i could just look down and walk around while flying, if you have right adapter you can clone your phone through hdmi input and just leave the phone down on controllers as normal
they hands down the most comfortable goggles ive had and only ones i could comfortably fly and still walk around
Nice concept, but the price is outrageous. I might buy it for $20, never for $179. Btw, now you can buy a Bluetooth mouse controller for your phone, so you don't even need the flaps for your finger to touch the phone. BT works with the dronemask 1, too.
P.s. buy the BT mouse controller that you hold in your hand n use your thumb to move the tiny joystick on top. Make sure you use a lanyard to attached it to your wrist. Not your regular table top mouse.
That would still probably be pretty cumbersome but it’s really the best way to use this. I would of course rather they fix the design of the mask though so that a second device isn’t needed. Thanks for the feedback!
What is the alternative? I guess I'll take your advise, save the money, stick my Mini 2 in a drawer and spend $6 or $800 on an FPV drone. BTW, how does that save money?
Actually, it's the DroneMask that will end up in the drawer unused. After you take it out for a few times and realize it is an annoying as hell experience, you won't want to use it. The Mini 2 will still be the great camera quad it was intended to be, though.
We are not alone in our take on this product - many have literally purchased it, saw our video having run into similar issues, told us they wish they had watched this first and they didn't waste their money.
So, look, if you want to fly your Mini 2 FPV that badly and that's your ONLY goal, then go ahead and buy it. You are informed about the flaws we encountered, so if you buy it knowing that, and are willing to deal with it, I see no problem.
An alternative? Well, just because there isn't a cleanly package alternative does NOT necessarily make a poorly executed product worth buying. Best of luck, who knows, maybe you'll be happy with it. 🤞
What is a better goggle?
For which drone? Now that some manufacturers like dji have goggles that will work with their drones, it is something to consider.
For example DJI Integra goggles for $350 work with some camera drones, such as DJI Mavic 3 Pro, DJI Mavic 3 Pro Cine, DJI Mavic 3, DJI Mavic 3 Cine, DJI Mavic 3 Classic, and DJI Mini 3 Pro.
I would have purchased, but never at the ridiculous price they want for it. What a joke.
This is one of the reasons we lean so hard into criticism of this product, and some people don’t understand that. I agree with you.
If they charged no more than $80-$100 USD shipped with cables and everything included, then ok - if they fixed just a couple of the flaws with it like the crappy flaps.
I could let go of the heavy phone issue, but when they’re telling me I should try to put even more weight on my head to counter balance the damn thing… at this price, come on…
This is not worth $180 as-is. Not even close. Thanks for the feedback.
I found the same thanks for being honest ✌️
screw the finger hole. just use a blutooth mouse and click the menu
This is a good idea, actually, and is probably one of the best options for having control over the screen.
But, it also means that you are stuck ensuring that you have a flat, level surface to put a mouse on.
And, if you’re going to just use mouse then that right there is another reason to consider not paying for DroneMask and buying cheaper goggles. At least half of the appeal of DroneMask 2 is the access flaps to get to the menus without needing ANOTHER device. Well, it’s supposed to be, anyway.
Great suggestion though, thank you for taking the time to comment. 👍😎
I would advise anyone serious about FPV to not waste their money. I've been flying drones for years including Phantoms, Mini 2, Mavic Pro, S800 and Inspire using different headsets and found the Drone Mask 2 to be overpriced and flawed. The view straight forward is pretty good but the division between the two sides of the lens will block the view to the edge of the screen from the far eye. Phone used was a Galaxy S8. What's worse is "customer service" didn't respond to two emails for 3 weeks until I filed a PayPal claim. Now they want me to send it back to Norway from the United States. The shipping cost would be horrendous. Then they did the Chinese trick of offering a 50% discount to keep it, even though I explained to them it was worthless to me because of the design flaw. Just a lousy experience.
Patrick was given the same offer for DroneMask 1. He took it because as you said, returning it to Norway would have been too expensive. Sold it locally to someone for cheap, about the price it should be sold retail…
Please advise what googles can I buy for my dji air 2s? I checked and it's not supporting dji googles
The best you're going to do is a $20 dollar phone-holder VR glasses, paired with litchi app that lets you split the image and fly drone. You have to quickly take it down when something happens and take it of the holder, so it's not as nice as the drone mask but it's FAR cheaper. Litchi app is $30 and you can get the VR phone glasses for $20 bucks anywhere. You will have a lot of the same problems though with a heavy phone that we did no matter what. There is really no way to have a "great" experience with any of these solutions.
I would possibly reevaluate exactly why you want to fly the DJI Air 2S with Goggles in the first place. If it's to improve your visibility in the sunny conditions for example, I think spending that money on the DJI RC with the FHD display is much more worth your while. That was the main reason my friend Patrick bought the DroneMask, but since the RC with FHD was made compatible with the Mavic Air 2S, he decided to get that instead.
Unfortunately, as you said, DJI has not made the Air 2S compatible with any of their official goggles. If, for whatever reason, you MUST fly this FPV and the cost does not matter, I'm afraid the dronemask is probably your only option if you want to stick with the official DJI Fly App.
It's a workaround for the real thing, and does the job pretty well, but It's way too expensive!
It does a sub-par job for what they're asking for it -- that's probably the biggest issue. If they went back and addressed the issue with the flaps / light leak, and dropped the price by about $100 then they would not only make more sales but the experience would match the price for the product.
Patrick seems like a very angry kind of guy he haunts me
Ummm...I wouldn't say angry maybe just a tad perturbed. LOL I am old though. So before long I expect to be yelling at kids to get off my lawn.
That was a saving of £140 !! Sticking with my old Samsung gear goggles .
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They still missed to check the product BEFORE releasing it.
Now it has improved but still too short.
The weight in the back is not solution until you might replace the strap over the head with a kind of helmet but I doubt .
I do still have and fly a Mavic 2 Pro with the DJI goggles racing edition and that has such helmet style ring and battery weight in the back of the head but still heavy.
The finger touch must work well, so they need a kind of curtain and a more balanced version cause otherwise it will not work.
But the core issue is the high amount of mass far away from your eyes (depending on the weight / size of your phone) and I had tried some of these 3 or 4 years ago cause my best screen is usually the phone. Regarding touch control there could also be a way of a kind of remote in theory that could be used to jump and click through the menus and get back (ESC), but that would require a good bt remote cause a USB connected remote would not really work cause then the whole thing would become a mess with such connector on the phones edge.
It needs quite more thoughts and prototypes to get that right and useable but I bet there is a market for 2 big reasons
* phone has ususally best screen
* people with glasses suffer from mosts of the other goggles cause they need box styled goggles like this one
Good work and review and the best starting point they could get to build version 3 but hopefully this time as beta for testing and sharing.
If they do it on their own without a test clinic or you as beta tester then it will takes ages to get a useable product.
Good luck - and now I have to check where Missouri is cause the only things I know is the Battleship Missouri and that you are flying along the Mississipi so I have a glimpse where to look: somewhere in the middle most likely south of chicago / Illiiinois cause relatives have emigrate over a century ago to St. Louis and had written in their letters about Missouri and Kentucky.
DroneMask reached out to me on October 4th to send a pair to test and provide feedback, but the reality is that DroneMask 2 at that point was already set in stone. The product was not going to change since they had set a launch day to be today. Had they contacted us months in advance to field test this, all of this feedback could have been provided to them to make an actual change BEFORE the launch. We would have loved to get the opportunity to send this feedback for them to make improvements. I am wondering if at this point there will even be a DroneMask 3, if after almost a year this is their best effort on the 2.
cool man... but it looks gigantic
Looks like a huge waste of money 😀
Dang I was getting ready to buy until I saw this flap issue. How dumb. What idiot decided this was acceptable? They should of installed doors. Well I guess I'm not buying now!
When DroneMask reached out to us and said they came up with a way to access the screen, I was really intrigued to see what they did to the mask.
Pretty much immediately after I opened the box and simply saw what the cloth cut-out solution was … I was disappointed. But kept an open mind.
It became apparent just moments after putting the mask on and trying it outdoors in the sun what a mistake the flap design is.
@@JohnCuppi This was a rushed solution and would never of gotten to production in my company without testing. Thanks!
@@JDDupuy If only there were more people at some of these drone companies like you!👍I cannot tell you how many times I have gotten a drone product and wondered how did it manage to be given the OK to get to this point...
There cables will not connect with my drone.