Honestly, as someone who uses ISO only, there are other vendors (like Mode) who don't do hotswap ISO anymore as they're not getting sold in high enough numbers. So having multi-layout hotswap PCBs gives ISO users a lot more options while keeping costs lower for manufacturers.
Great review! However, i think it would be very beneficial to your audience if you also included a non pe foam sound test or no foam sound test for those who like the clack. Or at least your favorite build without pe foam. Cheers!
Your comments at 3:42 got me! Enjoyed the review! I agree with the comments on doing a sound test without the foam. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the board!
Hey man, great review and in depth analysis of your thoughts and experience. One suggestion I have is lowering the background music you had playing while you were talking. At times the music felt louder than your voice. Thanks!
totally agree although dye sub PBT will always have a special place in my heart... a cheapy BoW set I picked up from Prevail before they went under sounds the BEST to my ears on foamy boards!
Man shipping in this hobby really does feel brutal! I feel like USPS rates must have gone up recently, like I used to get a lot of small items shipped to me (on the west coast) for ~$5, but now I’m almost shocked if it’s under $10, even for just some bags of springs or switches! Appreciate your review of the board, I continue to be impressed at what you can get for your money now vs. even just two years ago!
as a follow up, for folks that are willing to wait, there’s a lot of free shipping available for items from ali express (including a lot lot of the more mainstream switches or components like plates and such)
"just wait until you order a board from swagkeys" hahaha.. haha... ahhh... Thinking back to my Shelby, shipping definitely wasn't great. But man this really is a great board. My friend is interested in trying out his first custom keyboard, so this is definitely at the top of my recommendation list.
The fact that I literally bought the zoom65 v2 because I didn't think they would make a 75% with 2.4ghx/RGB makes me furious. Here I go again spending more money 😢
Great video, surprised you like this as much as you did. It does seem like a great entry board for beginners though. How did you like the Morandi switches? Theremingoat gave them pretty high scores
I’ve got a full review in the works but I was very pleasantly surprised by them!!! Tbh I put Mx browns in the board and it sounded about as bad as you’d expect, so part of the board sounding as nice as it does is due to the switches!
i feel like the term entry level gets tossed around way too much in this hobby...seems like everything under $250 is classed as entry but in that case what would those boards around $100 be?
To be fair, I think entry level floats around $250 for a full build only because you couldn’t really find a custom mechanical keyboard for less than that until very recently. The venerable tofu 60 which was many peoples introduction to customs used to cost around that much for a full build, but you’re right in that there are much higher quality boards around the $100 price point now!
So smooth the way you speak on features and pros and cons. I feel reassured about my decisions on getting it or not lol If only the GB were longer, more forgiving, and smoother. Sigh.
What a bang for buck honestly! I have my "endgames" already - TOMO, Iron165 V2, Class65 V2, Sonnet, Mammoth75, Rama Thermal+, Paragon, QK75 =X (myth? lol I told my friend I'd stop) but this deal seems to good to pass up.
Finally got mine, all pvd with internal weight. Full weight is 6.8lbs, absolutely ridiculous 😂, I love it though! Our original ones never got out of customs, they just reordered 😬
Thanks for the detailed review ! Just got back into the hobby ! I’m torn between getting the aluminium or the fr4 plate.. thinking to pair it with my boba u4T … or just get the alu plate to open up mod options for linear switches ?
Thanks for the detailed review, lots of questions answered, though I am a little concerned about the coating/finish of the top case, is it still using glittery/sparkly coating for this black EE version, similar to the zoom65?
I've recently just got my NuPhy Halo 75, it feels so great, but this one sounds also very enticing, do you have any ideas about the comparison between these two?
Does somebody know a tactile switch, that comes close to the WS Morandi switches? I ordered them for my Zoom75 and received them yesterday. They sound so good and deep, feel very smooth and offer great RGB support. I‘d love to have those features in a tactile switch, because I prefer tactiles for my daily work.
Hmm… I’d say you should try out the turbulence switches from zenclack but they don’t have the RGB light pipe and they are out of stock currently. If sound is most important they were very nice and low pitched due to the nylon housing. If RGB is important then I’d say azure dragons? Very smooth and look nice. Sound isn’t quite as refined in my opinion though, the morandi s are just a very very nice switch
I was definitely debating this or the JRIS75 and went with the Jris since it has the "quick release" case mechanism and the non exploded layout that I want with the option of the F13/Delete key
Shipping rates from Geon is ridiculously high since they only offer DHL Express option. This is okay for expensive keebs but for smaller stuff like switches, it's stupid.
Help please.. Important question for me man.. I just got interested with kb hobby 2wks ago, after researching for a premium kb, I stumbled upon the zoom75 SE white, but it’s already sold out in usa vendors by the time I discovered it. I have an option to get a z75 se white that i want with pcv gold for $312 which is pricier from the $274 srp preorder price from local vendors. On top of that, I will need to pay $60 shipping. The total will cost me $435 for the $312 for zoom75 se, lcd $27, cf plate $31, shipping $60 My question is, is it worth it for me to pay almost $90 price increase? I feel like i should start looking at other keyboards at 300-400usd price range for this. If so, can you please suggest 300-400usd keyboards similar to the zoom75? Hope you can help me out. Thank you!
Hi! Welcome to the hobby. I think paying more than retail for a board like the zoom75 is not worth it. There are several used boards that you could pick up in that price range, unless you really like the LCD of the zoom. I'd check out the mechmarket discord to see if you can find a board you like, there are many many many boards for sale these days :P
@@MakerMods thanks for the response. I actually went ahead and ordered it. I recalculated and it seems like the australian shop I was checking out from, already included the taxes with their listing price, unlike here in america where taxes are calculated at check out. The price difference from ordering from a local vendor vs from australian vendor turned out to be just $40 because of shipping fees, and I think it’s not too bad given I’m ordering this late after the groupbuy ended and with all the local vendors having no stock here in the usa. I also just realized I was selecting the much more expensive options(special edition, ss pvd backplate, external weight, extra plates, and other add ons) that stack up the total price real fast to 300-400usd. All in all, I think I did the right thing and I’ll get what I’m after with all the add ons I like that’s hard to find aside from the keyboard itself at this point in time. I just hope I won’t regret going for it as my first premium kb. Wish me luck 🙏🏻
Zoom 75 shipping was $11
For me 65~ kekw
$108 RIP
For those wondering: Shipping to switzerland: 50$
(with lcd module added: 60$.
I assume it's because the added weight)
For those wondering, $98 shipping to New Zealand 💀💀@@LaponTV
$32 for me 😢
Honestly, as someone who uses ISO only, there are other vendors (like Mode) who don't do hotswap ISO anymore as they're not getting sold in high enough numbers. So having multi-layout hotswap PCBs gives ISO users a lot more options while keeping costs lower for manufacturers.
Great review! However, i think it would be very beneficial to your audience if you also included a non pe foam sound test or no foam sound test for those who like the clack. Or at least your favorite build without pe foam. Cheers!
Great suggestion! I’ll record a no foam sound test tonight and post a comparison, maybe as a short?
@@MakerMods that would be great
"you get compatibility for every layout"
*cries in ortho*
great vid as always, first thought was jelly epoch too when i heard that sound
HAHA if you aren’t picky with the legends, there’s definitely ortho support :P
Your comments at 3:42 got me! Enjoyed the review! I agree with the comments on doing a sound test without the foam. Thank you for sharing your thoughts on the board!
ahh i want this so much. This is gonna be my first custom! I hope I can get a milky white one..
Hey man, great review and in depth analysis of your thoughts and experience. One suggestion I have is lowering the background music you had playing while you were talking. At times the music felt louder than your voice. Thanks!
Thanks for the tips!
I really enjoy the deeper sound of pbt doubleshot
totally agree although dye sub PBT will always have a special place in my heart... a cheapy BoW set I picked up from Prevail before they went under sounds the BEST to my ears on foamy boards!
This keyboard is literally what I want for right now I have a gmmk pro with poppy sounds I WANT THIS
Is it VIA compatible out of the box?
Man shipping in this hobby really does feel brutal! I feel like USPS rates must have gone up recently, like I used to get a lot of small items shipped to me (on the west coast) for ~$5, but now I’m almost shocked if it’s under $10, even for just some bags of springs or switches! Appreciate your review of the board, I continue to be impressed at what you can get for your money now vs. even just two years ago!
as a follow up, for folks that are willing to wait, there’s a lot of free shipping available for items from ali express (including a lot lot of the more mainstream switches or components like plates and such)
Wondering what you did differently to HipyoTech, because your board has a lot more pop to it, sounds amazing.
@@kim15982 no it’s the foam
"just wait until you order a board from swagkeys" hahaha.. haha... ahhh... Thinking back to my Shelby, shipping definitely wasn't great. But man this really is a great board. My friend is interested in trying out his first custom keyboard, so this is definitely at the top of my recommendation list.
You deserve at least 100k subs my guy, great stuff
Maybe one day!
Love the hollow knight keycap.
This is going to be my first custom keyboard.
May I ask where you got that Hollow Knight keycap pls?
omg i love the keebs sound
Incredible video. Well done.
That sound is tight, TIGHT, TIGHT
The fact that I literally bought the zoom65 v2 because I didn't think they would make a 75% with 2.4ghx/RGB makes me furious. Here I go again spending more money 😢
I always expect the joke at the beginning of your reviews, but that "p-word" one got me xD. Love the videos man :-)
Mate unrelated to the zoom but what is that pink and blue keycap set at 2:00 ?
It’s domikey gift! I believe a r2 is running now!
@@MakerMods Ahh there is one, but it look's different now :( I'll look for aftermarket R1 in my country
Great video, surprised you like this as much as you did. It does seem like a great entry board for beginners though. How did you like the Morandi switches? Theremingoat gave them pretty high scores
I’ve got a full review in the works but I was very pleasantly surprised by them!!! Tbh I put Mx browns in the board and it sounded about as bad as you’d expect, so part of the board sounding as nice as it does is due to the switches!
i feel like the term entry level gets tossed around way too much in this hobby...seems like everything under $250 is classed as entry but in that case what would those boards around $100 be?
To be fair, I think entry level floats around $250 for a full build only because you couldn’t really find a custom mechanical keyboard for less than that until very recently. The venerable tofu 60 which was many peoples introduction to customs used to cost around that much for a full build, but you’re right in that there are much higher quality boards around the $100 price point now!
@@MakerMods hey man, easy on the browns! I have browns in my Sonnet and Kage!
i have fully modded tofu65 ryt now but this is my dream keyboard.
my always go to keyboard channel great info :)
can i have the link to the artisan keycap?
So smooth the way you speak on features and pros and cons. I feel reassured about my decisions on getting it or not lol If only the GB were longer, more forgiving, and smoother. Sigh.
Great video, Appreciate your work! :D
What a bang for buck honestly! I have my "endgames" already - TOMO, Iron165 V2, Class65 V2, Sonnet, Mammoth75, Rama Thermal+, Paragon, QK75 =X (myth? lol I told my friend I'd stop) but this deal seems to good to pass up.
Yeah I think based on what I know of the QK, it might be a similar sound signature but I really love how the zoom sounds/looks!
is this also good for gaming?
Finally got mine, all pvd with internal weight. Full weight is 6.8lbs, absolutely ridiculous 😂, I love it though! Our original ones never got out of customs, they just reordered 😬
How do you think this compares to the JRIS 75?
Where did you get the Hollow knight keycap from? Looks absolutely amazing!
it's from RNcables!
That sounds delicious!
what are the artisans at 1:13?
They’re the monochrome set from enkeycaps!
Hey can I have the name or the link for the pokemon artisan keycap you have on the right side?
it's an eggy from enkeycaps!
I missed this, but which PCB was included in your build here? With or without flex cuts?
it starts in 2 days lol you didnt miss it
@@jordanb.4514 He means that he missed the part where it was stated which PCB was used...... he knows the GB is starting soon ;)
My PCB had no flex cuts!
@@MakerMods thanks!
Hi , can you show me how to fix the sound of R2 row don't match with the other rows? Im using tofu60 2.0 and I having that issue
Where can I get a cable like that?
Mine is from space cables! I think they're called "Lindy" cables?
Hey man love the video! Would you recommend this over the QK75? (very new to the whole custom keyboard industry)
I haven’t tried the qk75 myself, but having tried the qk65 I’d say you can’t go wrong with either so I’d pick based on your preferred aesthetic!
Can you do video on how you store your keyboards I am up to 20 and need some ideas for displaying.
Most of mine are in cases or on my wall :P
Shipping for my Zoom 75 + WS Morandi Swiches was $75 to the UK. 💀
in terms of sound and feel, how does this compare to the qk75?
youtuber keybored has a direct comparison between the two
Where is that white and black togepi keycap from?
enkeycaps eggi!
How are the legends on the wuque set, would you say it’s on par or at least close to gmk? Did you like morandi switches?
I loved the morandi switches, they sound and feel very nice! Legends are very nice if maybe sliiiightly less crisp than Hennessy
Great review! Just wondering, how does the electrostatic coated finish feel? Does it feel smooth or sandy?
Thanks for the detailed review ! Just got back into the hobby ! I’m torn between getting the aluminium or the fr4 plate.. thinking to pair it with my boba u4T … or just get the alu plate to open up mod options for linear switches ?
I think you can't go wrong with either, depending on the sound signature that you like!
Hi did u use the pe sheet?
No PE!
Shipping is the one thing but tax is the far worse thing to be standing between me and this board.
Funny enough Keebsforall shipping is
Are there keycaps included?
no
No keycaps included but there are bundle options when you buy directly from WS I believe?
Thanks for the detailed review, lots of questions answered, though I am a little concerned about the coating/finish of the top case, is it still using glittery/sparkly coating for this black EE version, similar to the zoom65?
It’s pretty Matte! I’m not sure if it’s the same as the 65, but … it is a bit of a fingerprint magnet :P nothing that doesn’t wipe off though!
I've recently just got my NuPhy Halo 75, it feels so great, but this one sounds also very enticing, do you have any ideas about the comparison between these two?
I haven’t tried the halo 75 but they look like very comparable boards!
Does somebody know a tactile switch, that comes close to the WS Morandi switches? I ordered them for my Zoom75 and received them yesterday. They sound so good and deep, feel very smooth and offer great RGB support. I‘d love to have those features in a tactile switch, because I prefer tactiles for my daily work.
Hmm… I’d say you should try out the turbulence switches from zenclack but they don’t have the RGB light pipe and they are out of stock currently. If sound is most important they were very nice and low pitched due to the nylon housing. If RGB is important then I’d say azure dragons? Very smooth and look nice. Sound isn’t quite as refined in my opinion though, the morandi s are just a very very nice switch
@@MakerMods Thank you, I will keep an eye out for the zenclack turbulence and buy a sample of the azure dragons in the meantime.
I was definitely debating this or the JRIS75 and went with the Jris since it has the "quick release" case mechanism and the non exploded layout that I want with the option of the F13/Delete key
You can have a F13/Delete key with the Zoom75 in the top right corner. Personally I'll be building it with a knob and delete key there.
Shipping rates from Geon is ridiculously high since they only offer DHL Express option. This is okay for expensive keebs but for smaller stuff like switches, it's stupid.
Totally agree, so I’m glad in US at least there are some vendors that are stocking his stuff!
RGB?
Help please.. Important question for me man.. I just got interested with kb hobby 2wks ago, after researching for a premium kb, I stumbled upon the zoom75 SE white, but it’s already sold out in usa vendors by the time I discovered it.
I have an option to get a z75 se white that i want with pcv gold for $312 which is pricier from the $274 srp preorder price from local vendors. On top of that, I will need to pay $60 shipping.
The total will cost me $435 for the $312 for zoom75 se, lcd $27, cf plate $31, shipping $60
My question is, is it worth it for me to pay almost $90 price increase? I feel like i should start looking at other keyboards at 300-400usd price range for this. If so, can you please suggest 300-400usd keyboards similar to the zoom75?
Hope you can help me out. Thank you!
Hi! Welcome to the hobby. I think paying more than retail for a board like the zoom75 is not worth it. There are several used boards that you could pick up in that price range, unless you really like the LCD of the zoom. I'd check out the mechmarket discord to see if you can find a board you like, there are many many many boards for sale these days :P
@@MakerMods thanks for the response. I actually went ahead and ordered it. I recalculated and it seems like the australian shop I was checking out from, already included the taxes with their listing price, unlike here in america where taxes are calculated at check out. The price difference from ordering from a local vendor vs from australian vendor turned out to be just $40 because of shipping fees, and I think it’s not too bad given I’m ordering this late after the groupbuy ended and with all the local vendors having no stock here in the usa.
I also just realized I was selecting the much more expensive options(special edition, ss pvd backplate, external weight, extra plates, and other add ons) that stack up the total price real fast to 300-400usd. All in all, I think I did the right thing and I’ll get what I’m after with all the add ons I like that’s hard to find aside from the keyboard itself at this point in time. I just hope I won’t regret going for it as my first premium kb. Wish me luck 🙏🏻
$67 shipping?! WYD Monokei? 😭
gawd DAMN that shit be thonkin
Switches sound like building blocks in Minecraft
Nice vid
PBT spacebars are always gona suck in comparison to ABS IMO
let me buy it
Unfortunately the side profile doesn't look good at all. Zoom TKL looked much better!
Dude it's sea shipping. I refuse to buy anything sea shipped. I want this so bad :(
Where are you ordering from? There are a lot of regional vendors!
i fell in love with pressing that like button. But i also fell in love with you, Ben.
HEHEHE thanks frank
There’s idiots out there that will just refuse to buy this board only because it’s not super expensive
I don’t like spending less than 600$ on a board - feels cheap somehow. The zoom looks cool, but not interested at this price.
I got one that’s super special. I’ll sell it to you for $600
应该是无缺首创压铸再CNC工艺吧，请大量水军营销，键盘有各种问题直接选择无视，牛逼！！！！！！
No way?! I didn’t realize the board was cast because it’s advertised as CNC’d!
@@MakerMods Divided into two versions: A and B,Version B is die-casting
I do not understand that stooooooopid looking nav blocker. That alone makes me not want it... big sad it could have been the perfect 75
Haha I think they did that to have somewhere to put the engraving on the SE editions? :P Would you have preferred another key there?
@@MakerMods Yeah totally. Kinda why I didn't like the Jelly. Just put a switch there😆