Good content. I have the 900 Rally Pro and a 2024 Tuareg. The power of the Triumph is noticeably more and if I take long road trips it will be the Triumph. When I think about off road there is no second thoughts, the Tuareg will always take me places I don't feel comfortable with on the Triumph. The Tuareg is more fun on the service roads and the quick shifter always puts a smile on my face. I started to get a KLR until I rode the Tuareg, so much more power, great electronics package and cruise control works great. Keep up the content, will continue to follow your channel.
My thoughts on KLR vs T660 after 6 years on my KLR and two days on my T660 1) T660 immediately feels lighter 2) At slow speeds, like 3mph, T660 handles far far superior. It just is so easy to balance compared to KLR 3) T660 just feels "sophisticated". Buttery clutch, buttery throttle, tight, smooth.........like Italian ******y 4) Power is no comparison. KLR struggles to pass at 65. T660 just blows to 100 like nothing 5) Ride modes are kind of difficult to really dial in but I'm not that smart and its my first bike with that sort of thing 6) My KLR suspension was all custom build by Cogent Dynamics and feels noticeably better than the T660, I need to start working on getting T660 set up properly. I dont like the fork dive and sort of soft front end. 7) That said, Front end of T660 does track way better than KLR at speed 8) Obviously T660 much less vibration 9) T660 is 100 worth the money. KLR is a great bike. But if you can afford it, get a T660. Its worth it
Thanks for your comments on my question. I did end up getting the tiger 900 RP. But I do still look back longingly at the tuareg and wonder if I made the right decision. I guess I am looking for that unicorn bike. Where I live I have to ride very far on asphalt. But when I get to the off road I push it pretty hard. My pillion wasnt complaining about the KLR we have, but once she got a taste of the tiger, she enjoys the ride much more. The tiger is a premium bike with a premium price, it's a huge leap from a Klr650. Tuareg would have been a big step, but not a leap. Tuareg expands on the KLR.better on road, better off road. The tiger is nearly as good on the off road, but it amazing on the asphalt. Just recently found your channel. Love it. You are probably the only youtuber that mentioned the tuareg and tiger in the same sentence.
This channel is the best I've seen for this type of content. There are so many trash talkers on youtube, you know what your talking about, excellent! I have just bought a Tuareg...without having driven one, crazy, maybe. But I have ridden the closest competitors from Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. I liked the Suzuki V-strom 800 quite well but am convinced that the Aprilia will give me a lot of quality time. It's winter here and a lot of snow and I bought a Tuareg at an attractive price. (109900 sek or 15900 aud) I wonder what it costs in Australia 🤔. Well, thanks for all the valuable videos you put energy into. 🙏
Curtis Your comparison (and torture tests :) are the most honest and objective I have seen; how about you lean the other way and do a comparison with your KLR and a V_Strom ?
Love your work Curtis looking forward to you destroying that little porky MT. Relevant to this video particularly given you've ridden all the bikes i'm currently weighing up as potential next bikes; If all three mentioned in this video and including the 800DE as the 4th choice were part of a cost free option for you, which bike do you take home and park next to the enduro bike? You can only take one, what will it be and why?
I would love to see a direct and a bit more in details comparison between the tuareg and 790/890R from you. But anyway, great great work on those vids. I hit the sub button the 1st time, 1st vid I saw from you mate. Thank you!
Love the color of your bike. Test rode one when they first come out on the Sunshine Coast, nice to ride but not as good as the Africa Twin ,in order for me to jump ship ! Did read an overseas review that the Aprilia Touareg can develop minor engine oil leaks and oil consumption very early after purchase. Have you found this to be accurate in your case? thanks and enjoy your reviews.
Hay mate , I have two many bikes and selling 3 of them ( strongly considering the Aprilla 660 ) For the following : 1. To do my ADV riding 2. For my road riding ( as I have a 900 road bike & 2 off road bikes a SWM RS 650 - sold getting picked up on the 10th and will advise my road bike soon . My other off road bike XT660 will sell after I MAYBE 🤔 get the Aprilla. I live in the Albury/ Wodonga area and our Honda dealer also sells , Aprilla , Moto Guzzi, Indian etc . I have test ridden the 660 and enjoy it . I’m 55 so speed isn’t a big factor I’m short and can actually touch the ground with both feet ( not flat footed ) I would lower the seat I love that it have cruise control- has I have a crap 💩 wrist from one of my many crashes 😂😂😂. Have you looked into a second set of rims ( one set for the road riding and other off road . My mate does thus with his 701 . So my other concern is long term reliability and dealer support when I’m away from local area . I hear it’s hard to get parts ?
Looks like you can solve your multiple bike issue by getting the Aprilia. I've owned a couple of Aprilias in the past and they've been rock solid. This one? Yeah no idea yet tbh, but I believe the gremlins have been ironed out (this one has been great). I've got no interest in 2 sets of rims tbh. Pretty big cost outlay and I find a decent set of adventure tyres stick well on the road, always a compromise somewhere though. If you're happy to have 2 sets and change it is the way to go though
@@onthebackwheel Thanks 🙏 for your reply, I try and get my feedback from owners ( not test riders , mags etc ) I will probably look into getting one around March / April
I am waiting for Aprilia to launch this in India. We currently don't have anything in the 600cc ADV segment (can't really classify the versys 650 as a true ADV). I'd buy this in a heartbeat.
Happy new year. I wish you a great 2023! Yeap it is nick-P-G-R-E. Thanks for posting this. Great video m8, hope you enjoy it and have great time with it! Ill be following along! Take care
Good vid mate. I rode this recently. I agreed with you exactly about the suspension and what was needed to improve it. I rode it on the road and some gravel but felt the same suspension adjustments would yield dividends. I didn't like any of the throttle 'maps', but I loathe RBW. I did like how generally easy the menus were to navigate (But I only had it for an hr, so didn't have time for a deep dive). I annoyed a lot of people with my review because I was so distracted by how much I disliked the RBW and how bad the ABS was on the road. If I ever ride another one, I'll try to spend time on what the positives were - suspension and centralised mass. I was considering riding the Norden 901, but if they've seen my vid on the Tuareg, I'm not sure I'll get a ride. Also, I'm wondering if there is any point as I understand that you can't turn off any of the 'farkles' on the 901... I could be wrong.
I imagine the Norden will drive you mad if the Tuareg annoyed you. One thing you can do on the Tuareg is just put in on the list aggressive map and leave it
@@onthebackwheel Cheers, I found it best in Off-road and Individual, they seemed the most responsive. Explore was pretty horrible - ok on gravel if you wanted to ride with your brain out. I think compared to my old Africa Twin it was just not powerful enough or responsive enough. I find RBW makes everything feel about 30% less powerful than it is. The thing I really hate is riding a bike and feeling like you have very little control - kind of like you are riding using a Playstation controller. But, I think you are right, the Norden will be a bit crap. It is a shame, nice seat, good looks, ok power, low COG. If only it came without all the nonsense. Cheers Cam from NZ. Loving your content.
Late to the party, but I didn't hear you mention in the questions, if/when you turn off the ABS or put it in a certain mode, does it stay in that mode when it is switched off and back on or do you have to reset the modes everytime you shut the bike off? Thanks.
@@onthebackwheel, thanks for that. Sounds like they put a lot of effort into making a bike that you don't need a heap of patience or be a computer guru to actually ride and enjoy.
Hello,I have a Tenere 2024 thinking about upgrading the suspension, Handlebars, heated grips, lower the bike .but then I stopped myself and say well maybe you should just buy the aprillia. what do you think ? I would definitely lose money on the resale, but you only live once.
Another good clip. I know it’s a few months old but I’m thinking of getting a Tuareg to replace my DR650. I want something a bit smoother for longer rides. My only concern is how much harder it would be off-road. Any thoughts? Cheers
Any suggestions on lowering options? I need to get it down as much as possible, 50mm if possible. I currently have a bm gs 750 lowered and low seat and can barely touch, the weight is hard to handle because I'm on tip toes. This bike is looking like a great replacement option but I'd like one foot on the ground.
A little bit of heat!!!? I tried the bike today with 32c and had decided to buy it. But my legs were uncomfortable almost in pain. Impossible to enjoy a ride under such heat. It’s a no go and I am heartbroken.
I rode it in some hot weather and didn't find it to be an issue 🤔 I must be more tolerant or used to very hot bikes! A decat will eliminate and exhaust will eliminate any heat if you loved it
As a Tuareg owner here in the US, a big mix of hitting the highway to riding off-road for as few hrs I’ve gotten over 325 miles on that tank and then the gas light came on, it’s surprisingly good on mpg, of course depends on how your twisting that throttle 😅
Wrap it or paint it, if color is a issue 😂 I’ve seen a few done super nice! 🤩 Me I’m not a big black color fan, but the yellow sure pops on this bike 😍🥰
Good content. I have the 900 Rally Pro and a 2024 Tuareg. The power of the Triumph is noticeably more and if I take long road trips it will be the Triumph. When I think about off road there is no second thoughts, the Tuareg will always take me places I don't feel comfortable with on the Triumph. The Tuareg is more fun on the service roads and the quick shifter always puts a smile on my face. I started to get a KLR until I rode the Tuareg, so much more power, great electronics package and cruise control works great. Keep up the content, will continue to follow your channel.
Thanks mate. Absolutely loved the Tuareg. And you're right, the 900RP is such a good bike for longer trips. We are spoilt for choice
After all your comments👍, I decided to buy one ...🤗 Thank you !!!🤝
Enjoy!
My thoughts on KLR vs T660 after 6 years on my KLR and two days on my T660
1) T660 immediately feels lighter
2) At slow speeds, like 3mph, T660 handles far far superior. It just is so easy to balance compared to KLR
3) T660 just feels "sophisticated". Buttery clutch, buttery throttle, tight, smooth.........like Italian ******y
4) Power is no comparison. KLR struggles to pass at 65. T660 just blows to 100 like nothing
5) Ride modes are kind of difficult to really dial in but I'm not that smart and its my first bike with that sort of thing
6) My KLR suspension was all custom build by Cogent Dynamics and feels noticeably better than the T660, I need to start working on getting T660 set up properly. I dont like the fork dive and sort of soft front end.
7) That said, Front end of T660 does track way better than KLR at speed
8) Obviously T660 much less vibration
9) T660 is 100 worth the money. KLR is a great bike. But if you can afford it, get a T660. Its worth it
Great comments and agree with you completely. Sounds like you need some heavier springs
I get the feeling that you would own this bike in a heartbeat.
For sure
Thanks for your comments on my question. I did end up getting the tiger 900 RP. But I do still look back longingly at the tuareg and wonder if I made the right decision. I guess I am looking for that unicorn bike. Where I live I have to ride very far on asphalt. But when I get to the off road I push it pretty hard. My pillion wasnt complaining about the KLR we have, but once she got a taste of the tiger, she enjoys the ride much more.
The tiger is a premium bike with a premium price, it's a huge leap from a Klr650. Tuareg would have been a big step, but not a leap.
Tuareg expands on the KLR.better on road, better off road. The tiger is nearly as good on the off road, but it amazing on the asphalt.
Just recently found your channel. Love it. You are probably the only youtuber that mentioned the tuareg and tiger in the same sentence.
It sounds like you made the right choice for you. They are both huge leaps over the KLR for sure
This channel is the best I've seen for this type of content. There are so many trash talkers on youtube, you know what your talking about, excellent! I have just bought a Tuareg...without having driven one, crazy, maybe. But I have ridden the closest competitors from Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. I liked the Suzuki V-strom 800 quite well but am convinced that the Aprilia will give me a lot of quality time. It's winter here and a lot of snow and I bought a Tuareg at an attractive price. (109900 sek or 15900 aud) I wonder what it costs in Australia 🤔. Well, thanks for all the valuable videos you put energy into. 🙏
Thanks mate, you will love it. That's a great price, they are up around the $22500 ride away here
@@onthebackwheel
I got a very decent price...but there is a big difference. Do you pay a lot of tax on new motorcycles there?
@@leiflindqvist9095 it isn't too bad. $22500 includes registration and taxes
@@onthebackwheel Same here. Well, keep going, great stuff, great driving. Wish you a great 2024.
Thanks for this! Also commenting for the algorithm , love ur vids, cheers
Thanks mate 👊
Thanks mate, love the Q&A session, very informative
Thanks Doc. Something different and enjoyed doing it
Curtis
Your comparison (and torture tests :) are the most honest and objective I have seen; how about you lean the other way and do a comparison with your KLR and a V_Strom ?
Happily, I just need to get my hands on a vstrom
Great session. Really useful. I own one, having just sold my T7. Many thanks
Cheers. How are you liking it!
@@onthebackwheel it just beats the T7 in every way so far.
Love your work Curtis looking forward to you destroying that little porky MT.
Relevant to this video particularly given you've ridden all the bikes i'm currently weighing up as potential next bikes; If all three mentioned in this video and including the 800DE as the 4th choice were part of a cost free option for you, which bike do you take home and park next to the enduro bike?
You can only take one, what will it be and why?
Seems like an awesome bike. I think it mostly compares to the 890 Adventure, or 890 R.
Yeah for sure, that and the Tenere
Love your review & the paces you put it through 💪 But on the fence between this & Rally Pro considering the 💴 difference, vs the fun lol
Cheers. Tough choice there mate. I'd go the Tuareg but the RP is better for touring
Like the presentation, only missing a good brew.
Good point and remiss of me
A great bike indeed 🍻
I would love to see a direct and a bit more in details comparison between the tuareg and 790/890R from you. But anyway, great great work on those vids. I hit the sub button the 1st time, 1st vid I saw from you mate. Thank you!
Legend, appreciate it! I'll see what I can do for a direct comparison. KTM won't lend me anything but I may be able to ride a mates 790/890
Love the color of your bike. Test rode one when they first come out on the Sunshine Coast, nice to ride but not as good as the Africa Twin ,in order for me to jump ship ! Did read an overseas review that the Aprilia Touareg can develop minor engine oil leaks and oil consumption very early after purchase. Have you found this to be accurate in your case? thanks and enjoy your reviews.
Cheers mate. I had no issues, only did 1500 KMS though. These are definitely better than an Africa twin off road, but definitely less grunt on it!
Hay mate , I have two many bikes and selling 3 of them ( strongly considering the Aprilla 660 )
For the following :
1. To do my ADV riding
2. For my road riding
( as I have a 900 road bike & 2 off road bikes a SWM RS 650 - sold getting picked up on the 10th and will advise my road bike soon . My other off road bike XT660 will sell after I MAYBE 🤔 get the Aprilla. I live in the Albury/ Wodonga area and our Honda dealer also sells , Aprilla , Moto Guzzi, Indian etc . I have test ridden the 660 and enjoy it .
I’m 55 so speed isn’t a big factor
I’m short and can actually touch the ground with both feet ( not flat footed )
I would lower the seat
I love that it have cruise control- has I have a crap 💩 wrist from one of my many crashes 😂😂😂.
Have you looked into a second set of rims ( one set for the road riding and other off road . My mate does thus with his 701 . So my other concern is long term reliability and dealer support when I’m away from local area . I hear it’s hard to get parts ?
Looks like you can solve your multiple bike issue by getting the Aprilia. I've owned a couple of Aprilias in the past and they've been rock solid. This one? Yeah no idea yet tbh, but I believe the gremlins have been ironed out (this one has been great). I've got no interest in 2 sets of rims tbh. Pretty big cost outlay and I find a decent set of adventure tyres stick well on the road, always a compromise somewhere though. If you're happy to have 2 sets and change it is the way to go though
@@onthebackwheel Thanks 🙏 for your reply, I try and get my feedback from owners ( not test riders , mags etc ) I will probably look into getting one around March / April
@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 nice mate, you'll love it. FYI, I'm a reviewer, just put them through their paces like I would my own bike
I am waiting for Aprilia to launch this in India. We currently don't have anything in the 600cc ADV segment (can't really classify the versys 650 as a true ADV). I'd buy this in a heartbeat.
Surely they will
Happy new year. I wish you a great 2023! Yeap it is nick-P-G-R-E. Thanks for posting this. Great video m8, hope you enjoy it and have great time with it! Ill be following along! Take care
Cheers mate and thanks for the question
Good vid mate. I rode this recently. I agreed with you exactly about the suspension and what was needed to improve it. I rode it on the road and some gravel but felt the same suspension adjustments would yield dividends. I didn't like any of the throttle 'maps', but I loathe RBW. I did like how generally easy the menus were to navigate (But I only had it for an hr, so didn't have time for a deep dive). I annoyed a lot of people with my review because I was so distracted by how much I disliked the RBW and how bad the ABS was on the road. If I ever ride another one, I'll try to spend time on what the positives were - suspension and centralised mass. I was considering riding the Norden 901, but if they've seen my vid on the Tuareg, I'm not sure I'll get a ride. Also, I'm wondering if there is any point as I understand that you can't turn off any of the 'farkles' on the 901... I could be wrong.
I imagine the Norden will drive you mad if the Tuareg annoyed you. One thing you can do on the Tuareg is just put in on the list aggressive map and leave it
@@onthebackwheel Cheers, I found it best in Off-road and Individual, they seemed the most responsive. Explore was pretty horrible - ok on gravel if you wanted to ride with your brain out. I think compared to my old Africa Twin it was just not powerful enough or responsive enough. I find RBW makes everything feel about 30% less powerful than it is. The thing I really hate is riding a bike and feeling like you have very little control - kind of like you are riding using a Playstation controller. But, I think you are right, the Norden will be a bit crap. It is a shame, nice seat, good looks, ok power, low COG. If only it came without all the nonsense. Cheers Cam from NZ. Loving your content.
Late to the party, but I didn't hear you mention in the questions, if/when you turn off the ABS or put it in a certain mode, does it stay in that mode when it is switched off and back on or do you have to reset the modes everytime you shut the bike off? Thanks.
Yep it stays off and in the setting you left it in, very refreshing
@@onthebackwheel, thanks for that. Sounds like they put a lot of effort into making a bike that you don't need a heap of patience or be a computer guru to actually ride and enjoy.
Great video!! One question though. How about reliability? Any issues?. Thank you
I only had it a month but no issues at all. Would need a long term owner to comment
Hello,I have a Tenere 2024 thinking about upgrading the suspension, Handlebars, heated grips, lower the bike .but then I stopped myself and say well maybe you should just buy the aprillia. what do you think ? I would definitely lose money on the resale, but you only live once.
Valid point. I really like the Tuareg, but from everyone I know who's spent money on their Tenere suspension they are very happy
@ thank you
Another good clip. I know it’s a few months old but I’m thinking of getting a Tuareg to replace my DR650. I want something a bit smoother for longer rides. My only concern is how much harder it would be off-road. Any thoughts? Cheers
Definitely a bit harder to handle off road, but WAY more capable than you'd think. A massive improvement on road for sure
Thanks for the quick reply. The Tuareg seems to tick most of the right boxes.
Any suggestions on lowering options? I need to get it down as much as possible, 50mm if possible. I currently have a bm gs 750 lowered and low seat and can barely touch, the weight is hard to handle because I'm on tip toes. This bike is looking like a great replacement option but I'd like one foot on the ground.
You can buy a low seat for them. After that you'd have to get it professionally lowered. How tall are you?
They make lowering links for this bike 💯
Did you consider buying this bike before you bought the Suzuki 800 and if so why did you go with the 800 over the 660 Tuareg?
Hey mate. I did a video explaining it, but short version, I got it as something different for the channel
You’ve got me excited about the Tuareg 😂
@@timothyherweynen6210 its a cracker mate, would own one in a heart beat
Great summary & comparison video Curtis.
Wheelie factor out of 10? 😉
Wheelie good, 8
@@onthebackwheel 👍😁
A little bit of heat!!!? I tried the bike today with 32c and had decided to buy it. But my legs were uncomfortable almost in pain. Impossible to enjoy a ride under such heat. It’s a no go and I am heartbroken.
I rode it in some hot weather and didn't find it to be an issue 🤔 I must be more tolerant or used to very hot bikes! A decat will eliminate and exhaust will eliminate any heat if you loved it
I am interested to know what the fuel range is? Some claim about 400km if you take it easy, others are getting just over 300km with normal riding.
I'm averaging 5 litres per 100km and the tank is 18 litres from memory. Taking it super easy it's below 5. 400? I'd be VERY nervous
Also, after a mixed adventure ride with lots of off road it was about 5.4l/100
As a Tuareg owner here in the US, a big mix of hitting the highway to riding off-road for as few hrs I’ve gotten over 325 miles on that tank and then the gas light came on, it’s surprisingly good on mpg, of course depends on how your twisting that throttle 😅
@@RamblingRuters 325 miles, you must be gentle at that throttle! Respect 👊
I like the shape of the seat, I don't like the dished out seats so many bikes have now
Strongly agree. Even my KLR slopes too much for me and forces you to sit in a particular postion
I'm torn between this and the new BMW GS 900
Looking forward to the 900
Seat is horrible to say the least on GS 900 🤣 and it is wide as a 🐖
Best of luck
How about next time comparing it to the T7
I made some big comparisons with it in the review and in my Tenere first ride from memory
Which one do you prefer? This bike or cf moto 800mt?
This for sure
The Yamaha is going to be way more reliable.
Yeah you'd think so
dude better lol this is jonk t7 is king for long time
I dislike this colour, I think it looks cheap compared to the others. Great video though mate.
Thanks mate. I much prefer the other colour too
Wrap it or paint it, if color is a issue 😂
I’ve seen a few done super nice! 🤩
Me I’m not a big black color fan, but the yellow sure pops on this bike 😍🥰