Hi, Mazzy I was inspired by your HG videos. I bought and used the NOVA for a month and cleaned my 150 40-year-old records. First 75 records with distilled water only Automode 10 minutes and a 6 minute dry. Afraid of Fremer of cause! Good results! The last 75 records I was a bit more brave! I tried this approach: Automode 10 minutes with just 2 drops HG Blue bottle/400ml and a short dry. Directly after that a Automode 5 minute rinse and long dry with distilled water only. I think this works really well for the old and dirty records. I bought an extra watertank for the rinsing. For instance I did the XTC's English Settlement album yesterday and it sounds amazing. Depth, good bass and high notes, no pops and crackles. I cannot compare it to the original HG but the Automode flexibility of the NOVA works fine for me. I also use the rack al lot. I do batches of 6 albums. For newer relative clean albums I only use the distilled water, try to be on the safe side! I replace the water quite often (every 10 records) because i does not cost a lot and i feel the rinsing is better so. Hope I can help you choosing your strategy with this experience. I am also lazy but this all doable!!🎸 .... and it feels great to enjoy all the music you can still get from your old records! Now I hope HG sends me their antistatic thing to test 🙂. Greetins Fransbert Schermer
I purchased my NOVA on Amazon and noticed that it had been out of stock for a while. Now, it's back in stock. I recommend everyone to buy NOVA if you have some extra money because it saved me a lot of time cleaning dirty records. I can directly choose auto mode with 3/5/10 minutes of cleaning + 3 minutes of drying. It is quieter, faster and provides better cleaning results compared to the Original.
I used to own a humunguru but found that it wasn’t making the necessary improvements most likely due to the size of the cavitation bubbles generated by its low power so I upgraded to the degritter MKII and OMG. What a difference that change made. Night and day. My advice for those of you with a decent size vintage collection is to spend the extra $$. Over time it pays for itself especially considering the value of most collections these days.
I have the original Humminguru and am very happy with it. I don't use the drying cycle though. It forces airflow along the record and that can introduce static. After a cleaning cycle I set the record to dry in a dry rack. I do clean every new record. Wet cleaning records removes static electricity and that's the main reason why I do that.
My cleaning process with the Humminguru consists of using distiled water with the Groovewasher utrasonic solution. I run two consecutives 5 minutes runs. The first manual the second automatic. Once it is over I use just distiled water to rinse the disc and run a 5 min run.
Thanks for the video, can't wait for the comparison. Waiting on black Friday to get myself one. Still can't believe these comments about the Degritter, it's the same as when you go shop for a car, you don't go to the Kia dealership and then across the city to Rolls Royce, because price wise that's what you are comparing it to. At the end of the day, both run on gas and get you to where you need to go.
@@mazzysmusic More people need to tend to their records better in the first place instead of the constant pursuit on how to clean them and the size of the bubbles it produces. I also have a good air filtration system which reduces a ton of dust and small particles from the air, so that's also preventive and helps. I'm like a werewolf, clean them only when a full moon is out and about.
Great review. I've really heard nothing but positives about HumminGuru machines. I like that they included the 7" and 10" adapters with the Nova. And that feature where it drains the water that gets into the fan area seems really thought out. I currently use a vacuum system which works great for my needs but when I'm ready I think I'll be moving to Ultrasonic and HumminGuru seems like the right fit. I hope all is well Mazzy!
Hi Mazzy, Thanks for the vid. You can find 2 LPs of the same dirty condition at most garage sales. Most likely, they've been stored away together. Hudsons inners are the best.
Looking forward to the next video on this. I got the original guru. Happy so far… sure you got to let it air dry / wipe off the occasional droplet… but that ain’t bad for the price point.
I appreciate your record cleaning videos. I recently was given 3 boxes of used records. They are very dusty. I am cleaning them manually, but I think it would be easier to have a machine. I am still enjoying restoring these vintage records. 😊
I use a vevor and it's a chore with a distilled water spray rinse first with a label master then the vevor with surfactant, then a distilled water spray rinse, then wipe dry with microfiber then onto rack. It's a lot, but the records I at least know have been cleaned, lol.
glad that the ultrasonic generators were upgraded. That possible design weakness kept me from seriously considering a purchase. And of course the required better power supply permits other improvements. I really like not having to pay a dealer , or gasp, an audio salon, to just buy the gizmo.
Nothing comes into my collection w/out a cleaning on my Record Doctor. New records get a quick clean, which makes a difference if you want black backgrounds. New pressings are dirty more times than you would think. Really filthy records go in the Spin Clean first, then the Record Doctor. Dirty records are bad for your stylus as well. Mazzy, I'm very interested in the new HG unit. But the real shootout would be against, say, a Degritter with higher frequency cavitation ( and smaller bubbles). That's the real test.
I saw NOVA and it's a year since the festival attack today. I went to a celebration/memorial in London last night they had one of the DJs there. Today was my birthday but I don't think it'll ever be the same again. Life can get more serious as you get older. Am trying to keep upbeat about things ATM. I am thinking of culling alot of records because of my circumstances. Sorry I've waffled here anyway just saying hello 👋 Oh I have a vacuum cleaner Project from Czechia which I'm happy with.
I’ve seen a number of reviews of the Humminguru by lazy geezers like you and you all like it because it’s all automated. I use a manual system of the Record Doctor and a Spin Clean combo and I too am a geezer, but not a lazy one. Takes 5 minutes per LP, and I m happy with the results. Amazon has this for $499 or $599 for the 7/10/12 inch version. I’m sticking with what I have. And you should see my biceps now. , Popeye’s got nothing on me. Thanks for the video.
Yes geezers young and old enjoy the easy way to clean. Some even go for the ultrasonic cleaners costing $2,3,5 k and up. If you enjoy the physical process then that’s great. I enjoy this simple way as I add records to Discogs and play them while the machine does the heavy lifting. And the ultrasonic cavitation gets most records cleaner than the handy work. Thanks for the comment though.
I see no reason to call names just because one is resistant to change along with the times. Have fun in your own way with records, but ultrasonic is a well proven superior cleaning method that I am glad has been adapted to cleaning records. I assume the geezer crack was just friendly banter, as was my objection. I trust an audio brother would understand that without saying, but this is the internet with lots of critics.
How often are you meant to change the air filters? I have had the same air filter since I got the machine 2 years ago and it looks the same as when I put it in 2 years ago. The water filters being white, I change once they get noticeably grubby, so no problem there.
I bought the Humminguru after my ProJect VC-E died, based on your review last year. It's been fine, but there are a handful of records I have with a very flat edge that it is unable to spin. I'm not in the market, but have kinda decided that if/when the Humminguru dies, I'll likely pick up a Degritter and call it a day. As for now, the Humminguru is more than adequate for my use. I do enjoy buying used records, even more when I come across something good in a dollar bin. It's a good tool to have but I'm not religious about it.
@@ballstadt interesting Travis. I haven’t had any records not spin in my devise except when I didn’t drop directly in the groove. Once adjusted they all worked. However I never looked at flat vs curved edged records. As I clean more, I’ll try to take note of any flat edged record I clean. Cheers.
@@mazzysmusic It's literally maybe 3 that I have, hence why it's a non-issue for the most part. It happens with my copy of The Fugees and a Corinne Bailey Rae record, and I seem to recall one other that I can't name right now. They're extremely flat-edged.
@@nerdsreselling I have no reason to believe the huminguru might not work long term. I'm just saying if I do need to replace it, I'd probably look at the Degritter, and yes, it is a steep jump in price.
Looked at the specs and both seem to use 40kHz transducers? If I recall many complained when the og Humminguru was released that it was to weak. I checked rhe out of reach (for me) Degritter and it operates in 120 kHz which apparently should be better? Not an expert though, so correct me if I am wrong.
@@revkarl me too, even have a rare walnut organizer that came with a zero stat, plus a little neon bulb that fit the end of the gun to test if it worked. I am reminded of the comedian who had jokes about that's all we had, and we liked it I plan on electrostatic cleaning , a significant upgrade from the old stuff that was all rally just variations on a theme.
It was when I recorded this. I’m sure it will return (links in description). I ordered my original directly from them in Hong Kong. Arrived within a week.
@@franksmusic2880 I started two years ago with a few drops of Tergitol I bought via Amazon. A surfactant. I think it stabilized the evenness of drying. But Fremer and Ingroove Mike said I should not use it. So it’s been inky distilled water. Not sure the difference. I will try a few drops of the solution Guru suggests. I’ll let you know.
Mazzy- Are you still doing the follow-up video on the Nova? I’m hoping I’m not missing too much if I purchase the original machine instead of the Nova which is too expensive for my budget.
Mazzy you ole wanker! Ta very much lad for the review. I'm very curious, it's a lot of money, money that could be spent on records. I've got plenty plenty of lot records with a bit of crackle here and there. Apart from that being removed I would presume, are there other sonic differences that you noticed after using this machine? My set up is Music Hall Ikura, Accuphase E211 and KEF R3 Meta. Thanks in advance Mazzy, av a lovely one!
I was always told to take my hat off inside. Makes sense because you aren't going to get rained on, and the sun is not gonna burn your bald-ass head. LOL.
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Personally I add a little bit of southern comfort when I clean my old doors records. Gives them that lil bit of grit!
Hi, Mazzy I was inspired by your HG videos. I bought and used the NOVA for a month and cleaned my 150 40-year-old records. First 75 records with distilled water only Automode 10 minutes and a 6 minute dry. Afraid of Fremer of cause! Good results! The last 75 records I was a bit more brave! I tried this approach: Automode 10 minutes with just 2 drops HG Blue bottle/400ml and a short dry. Directly after that a Automode 5 minute rinse and long dry with distilled water only. I think this works really well for the old and dirty records. I bought an extra watertank for the rinsing. For instance I did the XTC's English Settlement album yesterday and it sounds amazing. Depth, good bass and high notes, no pops and crackles. I cannot compare it to the original HG but the Automode flexibility of the NOVA works fine for me. I also use the rack al lot. I do batches of 6 albums. For newer relative clean albums I only use the distilled water, try to be on the safe side! I replace the water quite often (every 10 records) because i does not cost a lot and i feel the rinsing is better so. Hope I can help you choosing your strategy with this experience. I am also lazy but this all doable!!🎸 .... and it feels great to enjoy all the music you can still get from your old records! Now I hope HG sends me their antistatic thing to test 🙂. Greetins Fransbert Schermer
I purchased my NOVA on Amazon and noticed that it had been out of stock for a while. Now, it's back in stock. I recommend everyone to buy NOVA if you have some extra money because it saved me a lot of time cleaning dirty records. I can directly choose auto mode with 3/5/10 minutes of cleaning + 3 minutes of drying. It is quieter, faster and provides better cleaning results compared to the Original.
I used to own a humunguru but found that it wasn’t making the necessary improvements most likely due to the size of the cavitation bubbles generated by its low power so I upgraded to the degritter MKII and OMG. What a difference that change made. Night and day. My advice for those of you with a decent size vintage collection is to spend the extra $$. Over time it pays for itself especially considering the value of most collections these days.
How du you thing the "new Humminggure Nova, wpold compair to the degritter ?
I have the original Humminguru and am very happy with it. I don't use the drying cycle though. It forces airflow along the record and that can introduce static. After a cleaning cycle I set the record to dry in a dry rack. I do clean every new record. Wet cleaning records removes static electricity and that's the main reason why I do that.
My cleaning process with the Humminguru consists of using distiled water with the Groovewasher utrasonic solution. I run two consecutives 5 minutes runs. The first manual the second automatic. Once it is over I use just distiled water to rinse the disc and run a 5 min run.
I love how everyone has a slightly different recipe. 🎨
Thanks for the video, can't wait for the comparison. Waiting on black Friday to get myself one. Still can't believe these comments about the Degritter, it's the same as when you go shop for a car, you don't go to the Kia dealership and then across the city to Rolls Royce, because price wise that's what you are comparing it to. At the end of the day, both run on gas and get you to where you need to go.
Yeah big price difference. 3 k plus for that machine. Our earlier video comparing to a different 4k unit didn’t bring better results in cleaning
@@mazzysmusic More people need to tend to their records better in the first place instead of the constant pursuit on how to clean them and the size of the bubbles it produces. I also have a good air filtration system which reduces a ton of dust and small particles from the air, so that's also preventive and helps. I'm like a werewolf, clean them only when a full moon is out and about.
Great review. I've really heard nothing but positives about HumminGuru machines. I like that they included the 7" and 10" adapters with the Nova. And that feature where it drains the water that gets into the fan area seems really thought out. I currently use a vacuum system which works great for my needs but when I'm ready I think I'll be moving to Ultrasonic and HumminGuru seems like the right fit. I hope all is well Mazzy!
Thanks for this initial side by side, I was particularly interested in the higher rpm w/the nova vs. the og (I own).
Hi Mazzy, Thanks for the vid.
You can find 2 LPs of the same dirty condition at most garage sales.
Most likely, they've been stored away together.
Hudsons inners are the best.
Looking forward to the next video on this. I got the original guru. Happy so far… sure you got to let it air dry / wipe off the occasional droplet… but that ain’t bad for the price point.
The next stop 4u is most certainly QVC.
Great video! Thanks for the comparison. Cheers
Much quieter and easier than my VPI which is still working after more than 10 years.
I totally agree with you Mazzy, I only ever clean a record if it is the only option. I would never clean a new LP before listening to it.
New LP nowadays have so many residues of dust when say leave factory. I never never spin a new one without washing first
I appreciate your record cleaning videos. I recently was given 3 boxes of used records. They are very dusty. I am cleaning them manually, but I think it would be easier to have a machine. I am still enjoying restoring these vintage records. 😊
Huge difference with a deep-cleaner such as this HumminGuru.
I use a vevor and it's a chore with a distilled water spray rinse first with a label master then the vevor with surfactant, then a distilled water spray rinse, then wipe dry with microfiber then onto rack. It's a lot, but the records I at least know have been cleaned, lol.
@@mondoenterprises6710 don’t know that one. But as I said; I’m lazy to do all those steps 🤷🏻♂️
glad that the ultrasonic generators were upgraded. That possible design weakness kept me from seriously considering a purchase. And of course the required better power supply permits other improvements. I really like not having to pay a dealer , or gasp, an audio salon, to just buy the gizmo.
Nothing comes into my collection w/out a cleaning on my Record Doctor. New records get a quick clean, which makes a difference if you want black backgrounds. New pressings are dirty more times than you would think. Really filthy records go in the Spin Clean first, then the Record Doctor.
Dirty records are bad for your stylus as well.
Mazzy, I'm very interested in the new HG unit. But the real shootout would be against, say, a Degritter with higher frequency cavitation ( and smaller bubbles).
That's the real test.
I saw NOVA and it's a year since the festival attack today. I went to a celebration/memorial in London last night they had one of the DJs there. Today was my birthday but I don't think it'll ever be the same again. Life can get more serious as you get older. Am trying to keep upbeat about things ATM. I am thinking of culling alot of records because of my circumstances. Sorry I've waffled here anyway just saying hello 👋
Oh I have a vacuum cleaner Project from Czechia which I'm happy with.
I’ve seen a number of reviews of the Humminguru by lazy geezers like you and you all like it because it’s all automated. I use a manual system of the Record Doctor and a Spin Clean combo and I too am a geezer, but not a lazy one. Takes 5 minutes per LP, and I m happy with the results. Amazon has this for $499 or $599 for the 7/10/12 inch version. I’m sticking with what I have. And you should see my biceps now. , Popeye’s got nothing on me. Thanks for the video.
Yes geezers young and old enjoy the easy way to clean. Some even go for the ultrasonic cleaners costing $2,3,5 k and up.
If you enjoy the physical process then that’s great. I enjoy this simple way as I add records to Discogs and play them while the machine does the heavy lifting. And the ultrasonic cavitation gets most records cleaner than the handy work.
Thanks for the comment though.
I see no reason to call names just because one is resistant to change along with the times. Have fun in your own way with records, but ultrasonic is a well proven superior cleaning method that I am glad has been adapted to cleaning records. I assume the geezer crack was just friendly banter, as was my objection. I trust an audio brother would understand that without saying, but this is the internet with lots of critics.
How often are you meant to change the air filters? I have had the same air filter since I got the machine 2 years ago and it looks the same as when I put it in 2 years ago. The water filters being white, I change once they get noticeably grubby, so no problem there.
I bought the Humminguru after my ProJect VC-E died, based on your review last year. It's been fine, but there are a handful of records I have with a very flat edge that it is unable to spin. I'm not in the market, but have kinda decided that if/when the Humminguru dies, I'll likely pick up a Degritter and call it a day. As for now, the Humminguru is more than adequate for my use. I do enjoy buying used records, even more when I come across something good in a dollar bin. It's a good tool to have but I'm not religious about it.
@@ballstadt interesting Travis. I haven’t had any records not spin in my devise except when I didn’t drop directly in the groove. Once adjusted they all worked. However I never looked at flat vs curved edged records. As I clean more, I’ll try to take note of any flat edged record I clean. Cheers.
@@mazzysmusic It's literally maybe 3 that I have, hence why it's a non-issue for the most part. It happens with my copy of The Fugees and a Corinne Bailey Rae record, and I seem to recall one other that I can't name right now. They're extremely flat-edged.
Thats a bummer the humminguru might not work long term. But aren't the Degritter liks $2K or more? thats a huge step in price.
@@nerdsreselling I think the DeGritter is over 3k. But there may be several versions 🤷🏻♂️
@@nerdsreselling I have no reason to believe the huminguru might not work long term. I'm just saying if I do need to replace it, I'd probably look at the Degritter, and yes, it is a steep jump in price.
Looked at the specs and both seem to use 40kHz transducers? If I recall many complained when the og Humminguru was released that it was to weak. I checked rhe out of reach (for me) Degritter and it operates in 120 kHz which apparently should be better? Not an expert though, so correct me if I am wrong.
@@spda242 this may answer your question humminguru.com/blogs/news/humminguru-design
Archivist - bring back the expert for an unbiased review.
Mazzy do you still have an extra copy of that Millennium - Begin for sale/trade?
@@markh.9822 neither copies are mine. Sorry. ❤️🔥
My 1974 ronco record cleaner works for me .
does still work ? after all these years bought none that sits on my shelf display
Hey, I still have my Discwasher from the 1970s as well... actually I have two of 'em.😀
@@revkarl me too, even have a rare walnut organizer that came with a zero stat, plus a little neon bulb that fit the end of the gun to test if it worked. I am reminded of the comedian who had jokes about that's all we had, and we liked it
I plan on electrostatic cleaning , a significant upgrade from the old stuff that was all rally just variations on a theme.
@@revkarl I have a few of them that i still use
FYI The Nova is NOT on the Amazon site!
It was when I recorded this. I’m sure it will return (links in description). I ordered my original directly from them in Hong Kong. Arrived within a week.
Thanks Mazzy!
How to clean cds?
Looks like the water seeping onto the label is not a concern, but curious if it ever happens.
The labels never get wet as it rotates smoothly. The basic is angles so the labels keep dry.
So Mazzy, you only use distilled water in the tank. No other solutions?
@@franksmusic2880 I started two years ago with a few drops of Tergitol I bought via Amazon. A surfactant. I think it stabilized the evenness of drying. But Fremer and Ingroove Mike said I should not use it. So it’s been inky distilled water. Not sure the difference.
I will try a few drops of the solution Guru suggests. I’ll let you know.
@@mazzysmusic Thanks Mazzy, let’s us know. I’m thinking of investing in one of these machines.
what is the channel separation like?
I don’t understand your question ?
im just happy with my vevor ..
99% of my vinyls collection is still sealed or M/NM. Could this Nova be enough ?
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Ya sold me on it…
🤩🤩🤩
Live fact checking, you are so up with the times!
🤷🏻♂️😎
How does it keep the labels from getting wet?
The tank is angled so the distilled water never touches or comes in contact with the labels.
Mazzy- Are you still doing the follow-up video on the Nova? I’m hoping I’m not missing too much if I purchase the original machine instead of the Nova which is too expensive for my budget.
It was hard enough selling the wife to spend $499 on Amazon for the original one 😂
There is nothing wrong with using surfactants, granted it's the proper ones.. Not Fotoflo..that's for pictures. Tergitol is perfectly fine. 👍
Mazzy you ole wanker! Ta very much lad for the review. I'm very curious, it's a lot of money, money that could be spent on records. I've got plenty plenty of lot records with a bit of crackle here and there. Apart from that being removed I would presume, are there other sonic differences that you noticed after using this machine? My set up is Music Hall Ikura, Accuphase E211 and KEF R3 Meta. Thanks in advance Mazzy, av a lovely one!
I was always told to take my hat off inside. Makes sense because you aren't going to get rained on, and the sun is not gonna burn your bald-ass head. LOL.
But how about when recording a presentation. 🤠
Ba humbug
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