I love that it starts as plague annoying the shit out of pat, and then ends with, plague cracking open a cold one because the scrubs are dancing on his nerves
#1 Dragon for me is Ancalagon. If you don't know who that is, he's the baddest of all the Dragons in Tolkien's LotR universe; and he's HUGE, like as big as a mountain.
so basically plague doesn't like dragons because they look the same? like... ANY creature ever? you see a wolf and you go "That's a wolf!" you see a dragon and go "that's a dragon!" because that's. what. it. is. if you can't recognize it as a dragon because it's like a giant praying mantis or something (like one in LoD) that's not really a dragon.
@@scottrauch1261 super late comment there. but I'd make the argument that it's kinda a language thing. where they're using the word dragon as in "an ancient and powerful monster" rather than dragon as in, big 4 leg lizard with wings that breath magic stuff. kinda like how the word oni essentially means ogre in english, but they're distinct in that oni can take a lot of different forms where as the western idea of an ogre is more uniform.
@@notoriousjester2593 exactly, dragons have 4 legs/2 legs 2 arms, and wings, traditionally. Wyverns have wings but only two legs, drakes 4 legs but no wings and wryms are serpentine.
Drakes, wyverns, dragons, etc. are the same thing. They all drive in one form or another from "big snake". People used them interchangeably for centuries, until some asshole got a little too much onto the spectrum and decided to categorize the different myths and designs, giving us all this crap we got today.
CobaltMage fun fact, drakes have no wings. skyrim dragons are actually classed as wyverns. wyverns have 2 wings, and 2 legs. From a quick google search, you can see skyrim dragons meet the requirements to be a wyvern.
Malhekrow wyrm is the oldest english word for dragon, our equivalent to the chinese _lung._ they've gone through several forms over the ages, from serpentine to reptilian. in modern terms, a wyrm is the classical "european dragon", with four legs, a tail and two wings. if i say "dragon", the image you make will be a wyvern, a wyrm or a lung. what we call "drakes", the four legged serpentine creatures with no wings are the original design for the wyrm, which comes from the original descriptions of dragons being gargantuan north african monitor lizards.
The Best RUclips Commenter actually that distinction was only made recently, and is not widely accepted. You go back in time and show a medieval peasant a Skyrim dragon, they’ll call it a dragon, or a wyvern, or a wyrm, or a serpent- depending on where you ask, not the picture. Those were just different terms for generic “big, sometimes flying lizard thing”. It’s not until recently people started pretending there was a difference
Best dragons: Drago from Rocky, Komodo, Shiryu from Saint Seiya, the unclear golden dragon that may ot may not be real from Goku's dragon punch, that fat dude from Rurouni Kenshin that could spit fire, the dinnosaurs from Jurassic Park, snakes, small lizards
Dragons are very simple in design. 4 legs, and 2 wings. That's all you need. If they have 2 back legs and their front legs are also wings or are just wings they are wyverns. Simple as that. Skyrim doesnt have dragons.
hhheeeccckkk526 incorrect. if we call it a dragon, it's a dragon. the thing you called a dragon is a wyrm, which is an offshoot of the drake, which is what were originally called "wyrms". go look up "st. george and the dragon" on wikipedia and look at the evolution in art, ranging from "snake" to "monitor lizard" to "fire-spitting bat-creature" and up to "full blown european dragon". there is no consensus on what a dragon is beyond "threatening" and "overwhelmingly powerful".
@Yal Rathol "If I call a toaster a dragon it's a dragon." Flawless logic right here folks! That turd of a game ain't got no dragons, just admit it. It dosn't matter what was but what is.
Meizuken no, the reason that's dumb is because you're misapplying a label. it's like calling a car an airplane. it doesn't work because we know what a toaster is, and it doesn't fit any definition of dragon anyone's ever made. but consider this: "an creature with skin of metal, four legs and a fire deep within. this being has the ability to use its inner heat to cook items to a burnt crisp. many people a year die from angering this small fire-spitting beast." i just accurately described a toaster, and yet i made it sound like a small dragon, didn't i? and if you think you know best, please, define what a dragon is. give me the traits of a dragon.
@Yal Rathol The part in quotation was meant to show the absurdity of your own statement. It is not what I actually believe or meant. Also a Western Dragon is typically reptilian, has four limbs, wings and breathes fire. What you described is a toaster it sounded nothing like a dragon. Don’t be absurd.
Meizuken i'm aware of the purpose. my response shows why that was misguided. and western dragons have four legs and wings, do they? then why does the image of st. george's dragon either have TWO legs and wings, or four legs and NO wings? that's one of the oldest western dragons know, the base from which this tree sprang, so why doesn't it conform to your definition?
I like dragons but i hate the normal fire drake design which i think is what is meant here cause there are thousands of ways to make dragons but everything just makes generic fire drakes cause
The shitty thing abt dragons is that there are a billion different ideas of what they should look like, including things that are NOT DRAGONS IN ANY WAY, but ended up being called dragons for stupid reasons. I’m looking at you, “Chinese Dragon”. Your a fuckin /long/, it’s a different thing completely. Just because a bunch of white people thought this weird-ass chimaera looked kind of like a dragon does not make it a dragon. And don’t get me started on how Wyverns, Lindwurms, amphitheres, and more all were ( and for the most part still are*) considered dragons * don’t hit me with that “Dragons always have four legs and two wings shit”. That might as well be historical revisionism. You show a 12th century peasant any of those pictures they’ll say “dragon” or “serpent” or “ Burn the witch.”
I love the banter between Plague and Pat, Its like watching siblings yelling at each other over who's pokemon or super hero is better, its perfect.
"Seath's actually a cool dragon"
I could feel Plague's thousand yard stare chilling my bones when Pat said that.
Fernando Alegre me too
Seath's a bitch
Hiding behind his fence, staring...
@@bellial974 and forever alone
"Godzilla is clearly a grilled cheese sandwich" is the best out of context quote I've heard in a while
always a blast when plague's around in podcast.
Surprised Plague didn't throw in a "Muffins are cakes."
He should have said that Dead or Alive and Virtual Fighter are the same franchise.
Cupcakes bro, when people get cupcakes instead of cake 😷😷💀💀👎👎
>Title is just "Dragons"
>P L A G U E
This is going to be good…
The amount of salt these two tiny little children can kick up over fucking dragon designs is amazing.
"Dragons are _real,_ dude."
Crazy talk has activated and fucked up our sick ass world that once had dragons and magic.
God damn it, Pat.
Jeedy Jay not anymore, thanks to st George (I think)
I know what he meant, but it's still funny as hell
THEY ARE THO. They really are.
I want Pat and Eli get into a fist fight because of Miss Kobayashi's Maid Dragon :^)
Ugh. I have nothing but regrets over putting that into Google.
MiaowGaiGar whats wrong you dont like lucoa molesting shota
Remember guys!
Plagueofgripes is NOT a furry!
No matter how much he draws of anthropomorphic characters!
He is NOT a furry!
I love that it starts as plague annoying the shit out of pat, and then ends with, plague cracking open a cold one because the scrubs are dancing on his nerves
traditional dragons are metal as fuck, dude.
You wanna know who the best dragon is?
Kiryu.
I love 10:17, "This pod cast sucks."
Fucking plague is just the greatest.
Pat should know better than anyone that Kiryu is merely Like A Dragon.
#1 Dragon for me is Ancalagon. If you don't know who that is, he's the baddest of all the Dragons in Tolkien's LotR universe; and he's HUGE, like as big as a mountain.
*Continent
*HE’S SO BIG AND SO IS HIS NUMBER! HE WENT ON THE HUGE QUEST*
Muffins are cakes, a grilled cheese is a sandwich, and Drax is a dragon. The Zaibatsu have taught me much.
Gold Wade Grilled cheese is the best hamburger.
Gold Wade a grilled cheese has always been a sandwich, who disputes this
so basically plague doesn't like dragons because they look the same? like... ANY creature ever? you see a wolf and you go "That's a wolf!" you see a dragon and go "that's a dragon!" because that's. what. it. is. if you can't recognize it as a dragon because it's like a giant praying mantis or something (like one in LoD) that's not really a dragon.
How can you say they arent dragons when the characters clearly call them dragons.
@@scottrauch1261 super late comment there. but I'd make the argument that it's kinda a language thing. where they're using the word dragon as in "an ancient and powerful monster" rather than dragon as in, big 4 leg lizard with wings that breath magic stuff.
kinda like how the word oni essentially means ogre in english, but they're distinct in that oni can take a lot of different forms where as the western idea of an ogre is more uniform.
Woolie forgot Lilac, he should know, he and Liam loved Freedom Planet.
then again, there is that point he thought she was a robot.
You know what is a great dragon? Onaga.
"Wyverns are defined by having barbs on their tails."
Tsk tsk, Pat. I expected better of someone who plays Monster Hunter.
Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate had cool unorthodox dragon designs. Dalamadur is a kickass snake dragon.
Pat: "Godzilla is a dragon!"
*Slaps Pat*
But he is, scientifically if any lizard was to be classified as a dragon, godzilla wouldve been most certainly.
Godzilla is actually a Drake because he has no wings
@@notoriousjester2593 exactly, dragons have 4 legs/2 legs 2 arms, and wings, traditionally. Wyverns have wings but only two legs, drakes 4 legs but no wings and wryms are serpentine.
Man, if only there were a dragon in Bloodborne.
Then we would have the means to destroy the blight to humanity that is Eli.
*Blessing
Bravelord Speedo There's only one way to defeat Eli and that's with naked bird ass
How fuck they forget Spyro? I will forever hate them with all the Liam milk everyone has drank.
Grigori is what a dragon is supposed to be like.
"3000 year old dragon in the body of a 13 year old girl"
kanna?
Nah, nah, y'all can't go forgetting Dojo from Xiaolin Showdown. Now that's a good dragon.
negiWDJr yo! Dojo was awesome!
I like the air Plague adds to this. Lol The silence at certain points are great. XD
Pat trying to counter-troll
Ancient Dragon from Dragon's Crown, and Leventhan from Odin Sphere
You made me wait for the Porunga mention Pat, you made me wait for 9 minutes.
>Plague says Alma Elma
Well then.
Bruce Leroy, he's the last dragon
Drake, he's got one of the 99 dragons
they for go spyro. that's a dragon XD
"My sweet little princess"
"Insert Yu-Gi-Oh joke here"
Too bad Matt missed out on the Godzilla debate.
Fing Fang Foom nigga
Or Sauron from the savage lands. (Look him up)
Makes me think of the Dragon scenes in A Very Potter Musical.
legend of dragoons shuch a good game how i miss my psp and psx
Drakes, wyverns, dragons, etc. are the same thing. They all drive in one form or another from "big snake". People used them interchangeably for centuries, until some asshole got a little too much onto the spectrum and decided to categorize the different myths and designs, giving us all this crap we got today.
Also D&D
I had never fucking heard of Legend of Dragoon until this, those things are horrific
What?! Gidorah is so a dragon! It has frigging wings! A hydra don't have wings!
he's a 3 headed wyvern. also, hydras spit acid, not lightning
Damn, I also had a dragon lady at my school. Except you know...hot redhead teacher who doubled as a swim coach at the local pool
I wonder how Plague feels about the "children of dragons" from Claymore.
#1: All of the banned Dragon Rulers
Lucoa is best Dragon.
Fun fact: dragons in skyrim are technically drakes.
CobaltMage fun fact, drakes have no wings. skyrim dragons are actually classed as wyverns. wyverns have 2 wings, and 2 legs. From a quick google search, you can see skyrim dragons meet the requirements to be a wyvern.
What are wyrms then?
Malhekrow wyrm is the oldest english word for dragon, our equivalent to the chinese _lung._
they've gone through several forms over the ages, from serpentine to reptilian. in modern terms, a wyrm is the classical "european dragon", with four legs, a tail and two wings. if i say "dragon", the image you make will be a wyvern, a wyrm or a lung.
what we call "drakes", the four legged serpentine creatures with no wings are the original design for the wyrm, which comes from the original descriptions of dragons being gargantuan north african monitor lizards.
The Best RUclips Commenter actually that distinction was only made recently, and is not widely accepted. You go back in time and show a medieval peasant a Skyrim dragon, they’ll call it a dragon, or a wyvern, or a wyrm, or a serpent- depending on where you ask, not the picture. Those were just different terms for generic “big, sometimes flying lizard thing”. It’s not until recently people started pretending there was a difference
Best dragons: Drago from Rocky, Komodo, Shiryu from Saint Seiya, the unclear golden dragon that may ot may not be real from Goku's dragon punch, that fat dude from Rurouni Kenshin that could spit fire, the dinnosaurs from Jurassic Park, snakes, small lizards
The irresistible force meets the unyielding object.
Nothing about the Kushala Daora, or the Tigrex, or the Gore Magala, not even Rathalos, even Woolie knows what a Rathalos is ...
DarkZholt Rathalos isn't a dragon tho
he's a wyvern
Godzilla is a fucking drake, 4 limbs, no wings
Godzilla does not breathe fucking fire!
Has anyone ever drawn Sweet Little Princess Pat?
Rikki Schar I'm going to.
Rikki Schar Next SBF children's book installment: Sweet Little Princess Pat Meets Trogdor
Dragons are very simple in design. 4 legs, and 2 wings. That's all you need. If they have 2 back legs and their front legs are also wings or are just wings they are wyverns. Simple as that. Skyrim doesnt have dragons.
hhheeeccckkk526 incorrect. if we call it a dragon, it's a dragon. the thing you called a dragon is a wyrm, which is an offshoot of the drake, which is what were originally called "wyrms".
go look up "st. george and the dragon" on wikipedia and look at the evolution in art, ranging from "snake" to "monitor lizard" to "fire-spitting bat-creature" and up to "full blown european dragon".
there is no consensus on what a dragon is beyond "threatening" and "overwhelmingly powerful".
@Yal Rathol "If I call a toaster a dragon it's a dragon." Flawless logic right here folks!
That turd of a game ain't got no dragons, just admit it. It dosn't matter what was but what is.
Meizuken no, the reason that's dumb is because you're misapplying a label. it's like calling a car an airplane. it doesn't work because we know what a toaster is, and it doesn't fit any definition of dragon anyone's ever made. but consider this: "an creature with skin of metal, four legs and a fire deep within. this being has the ability to use its inner heat to cook items to a burnt crisp. many people a year die from angering this small fire-spitting beast." i just accurately described a toaster, and yet i made it sound like a small dragon, didn't i?
and if you think you know best, please, define what a dragon is. give me the traits of a dragon.
@Yal Rathol The part in quotation was meant to show the absurdity of your own statement. It is not what I actually believe or meant.
Also a Western Dragon is typically reptilian, has four limbs, wings and breathes fire. What you described is a toaster it sounded nothing like a dragon. Don’t be absurd.
Meizuken i'm aware of the purpose. my response shows why that was misguided.
and western dragons have four legs and wings, do they? then why does the image of st. george's dragon either have TWO legs and wings, or four legs and NO wings? that's one of the oldest western dragons know, the base from which this tree sprang, so why doesn't it conform to your definition?
Grilled cheese with ham is not a hamburger
Ghidorah is not a Hydra he is a Gleeok.
Ghidorah's a dragon. Dragons have wings. Hydras don't. Ghidorah has wings.
Don't forget about Tiamat from Dungeons and dragons 😂
Excuse me? What about American Dragon Jake Long?
Won’qu from bof9 so cool emperor and a dragon
Yo, my family called our first downstairs neighbor dragon lady because she was human trash.
Don't tell eli about breath of fire 4...
Kommodo Dragons
the only reason pat like shinryu more is because hes in ffxiv
I like dragons but i hate the normal fire drake design which i think is what is meant here cause there are thousands of ways to make dragons but everything just makes generic fire drakes cause
They missed Masamune Date
So what’s the opinion of Kirin?
if dinosaurs are the ancestors of birds and dragon is a mix between a dinosaur and a bird, are dragons Birds squared?
Issei Hyodo is my dragon.
You can have any opinion you want as long as you agre plague is right
those aren't dragons. they're Leviathans. at least that's what I think because they don't look like no dragon I've ever seen.
Eli's nuts. I understand what he's saying, but the semantics are fucked. Those things aren't dragons, just like how a lion is not a dog.
Drakengard anyone?
I definitely agree with Plague.
Pat has clearly never played lod
there are dragons in it, obviously
I named a dragonborn Drax because of Guardians of the Galaxy
I come back to this frequently to remind myself that Eli's takes are trash.
*describes dragons in general as lame*
“Naw I didn’t say that”
excuse me but dragons are fluid, check your scale-privilege
I hate "simple" dragons. Ones that look uninspired. I like Alduin but I hate the ones in that Naruto wii game.
68.media.tumblr.com/f03ae8b66397535bff826bef91705ee2/tumblr_ooklsdCV5v1u921jvo1_500.png Which do you hate the most?
The shitty thing abt dragons is that there are a billion different ideas of what they should look like, including things that are NOT DRAGONS IN ANY WAY, but ended up being called dragons for stupid reasons.
I’m looking at you, “Chinese Dragon”. Your a fuckin /long/, it’s a different thing completely. Just because a bunch of white people thought this weird-ass chimaera looked kind of like a dragon does not make it a dragon.
And don’t get me started on how Wyverns, Lindwurms, amphitheres, and more all were ( and for the most part still are*) considered dragons
* don’t hit me with that “Dragons always have four legs and two wings shit”. That might as well be historical revisionism. You show a 12th century peasant any of those pictures they’ll say “dragon” or “serpent” or “ Burn the witch.”
As aways... Pat's wrong.
I hate Plague
Middle Ages Peasant: ..same...