THE FALL new puritan (Peel Session) 1980

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  • Опубликовано: 28 ноя 2024

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  • @10538overture
    @10538overture Год назад +16

    I sold a copy of the 3rd Scott Walker album to Birmingham's Plastic Factory in the mid 80s and had to accept their offer of £5 because I was flat broke. Then next week, they were selling it for £20. In revenge I "liberated" a copy of this amazing double single (it was easier to smuggle out than Throbbing Gristle's Frankfurt/Berlin 12"). Much as I love Scott and TG, I still think I came out on top eventually.

    • @Shorter-name
      @Shorter-name 5 месяцев назад

      Good for you. All property is theft, so technically you stole nothing. You just repossessed it with glory in mind...

    • @theefishlippedone
      @theefishlippedone Месяц назад

      tbf 25% is a pretty good even deal nowadays, most dealers lowball

  • @leavethecapitol
    @leavethecapitol 13 лет назад +83

    strong candidate for the greatest song ever recorded.

    • @johncarty9072
      @johncarty9072 6 лет назад

      Mark E Smith Yes

    • @iamdamosuzuki_
      @iamdamosuzuki_ 6 лет назад +5

      Way up there with “The Classical”, “Slates, Slags, Etc.” And “Tempo House”.

    • @1963johnbhoy
      @1963johnbhoy 5 лет назад +4

      Between everything else they have done.

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 3 года назад +1

      Can I just say "Ifpr one welcome our New Puritan overlords"

    • @baubosoul
      @baubosoul 2 года назад

      Yes

  • @simonwolfendale1988
    @simonwolfendale1988 4 года назад +11

    Be honest, it never got better than this. Not the track, the music in the world.

  • @luclheureux1077
    @luclheureux1077 4 года назад +30

    Every single line in this song is fucking brilliant. MES doesn't usually get brought up in the conversation of all time best rock lyricists, but he damn well should.

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 7 месяцев назад

      Yes he does, but it normally concentrates on the period of narrative songs between 80-82. The greatest run of releases this country has ever produced.

  • @carlcameron8333
    @carlcameron8333 8 лет назад +33

    On the right day The fall were quite simply the best group in the world....

    • @styxcreek
      @styxcreek 2 года назад +4

      Every day was the right day

  • @shadowstealer2790
    @shadowstealer2790 3 года назад +26

    M.E.S. as post-punk's Witchfinder General. One of his most commanding lyrical performances, and that's saying something. I used to walk round school quoting "the experimental is now conventional".

    • @neo-pelagian
      @neo-pelagian 2 года назад +3

      Yes a very insightful paradox. He was not appreciated as the saying goes.

    • @raymondweiss2707
      @raymondweiss2707 4 месяца назад

      This is the new Grim Reefer! The snack at the end of the straw!

    • @speeduser3597
      @speeduser3597 3 месяца назад

      MES never recognized the term "post punk". Rock

    • @shadowstealer2790
      @shadowstealer2790 3 месяца назад +1

      @@speeduser3597 He never recognised ANY terms applied to him...

    • @vollsticks
      @vollsticks Месяц назад

      Shameful filtching of Stewart Lee's line about "post-punk's Witchfinder General"!

  • @katabat3837
    @katabat3837 9 лет назад +18

    Came here looking for "Lie Dream...," left speechless. I want the Peel Box. Pure fury.

  • @Nechepsos
    @Nechepsos 11 лет назад +11

    Peel sits behind his console... grins and shakes his head. I am again in the presence of genius in the form of some new puritans... post grim nation state...

  • @solaravus.research
    @solaravus.research 3 года назад +4

    Of all their great output I keep coming back to this song

  • @robertstevens150
    @robertstevens150 11 лет назад +12

    The snap at the end of the straw.

  • @michaellakey3565
    @michaellakey3565 Месяц назад +2

    Man 0n a mission there 😇

  • @moss1310
    @moss1310 11 лет назад +9

    This song RULES! Hail to the Fall. Consistently brilliant band.

  • @thetriumphofthethrill2457
    @thetriumphofthethrill2457 5 лет назад +7

    Best version. Love the last part, what a peaking jam. One of the best examples on what made the band and Post-Punk unique.

  • @palmeracallejera
    @palmeracallejera 11 лет назад +8

    One of the best I've heard.

  • @ivantodd3037
    @ivantodd3037 3 года назад +20

    Early 1980. The Fall need a new drummer after Mike Leigh quits. Steve Hanley's 16 year old brother Paul has an audition. Mark E Smith tests him out, with lyrics to a song he's just written - New Puritan - and asks Paul to play along. He spontaneously comes up with the rhythm you're listening to. Read all about it in Steve's great book.

  • @CenturyVole
    @CenturyVole 5 лет назад +9

    Fall at their mightiest. The experimental is now conventional. Famous apes. Hail the New Puritan. Yes Mr. Smith, greatest Fall song ever. Not on any LP. Just a strange acoustic version on Totale Turns. Enigma. The snap at the end of the straw.

  • @richardmmason
    @richardmmason 5 лет назад +12

    IN LA A DRUNK IS SICK ON GENE VINCENT'S STAR ON HOLLYWOOD BOULEVARD... Scanlan's guitar on this is incredible

    • @timsimpson8228
      @timsimpson8228 5 месяцев назад

      That has to be up there with ultimate Mark E Smith lyriics!

  • @mikebott6940
    @mikebott6940 5 лет назад +6

    I came for a remedial listen to this, it's still as good as ever.

  • @bwoodpop
    @bwoodpop 6 лет назад +6

    A fuckin masterpiece...Rip Mark E Smith.

  • @andrewcounts7136
    @andrewcounts7136 4 месяца назад

    Pure Genius..Marked Down As Such…👌

  • @huji891
    @huji891 2 месяца назад +1

    Paul Hanley mentioned that his drum intro herein was influenced by XTC's "Making Plans for Nigel"

  • @raymondweiss2707
    @raymondweiss2707 2 года назад +1

    favorite song by the favorite band

  • @kosmischesynth
    @kosmischesynth 5 лет назад +6

    What d'you mean what's it mean what's it mean

  • @luclheureux4480
    @luclheureux4480 8 лет назад +8

    Coffee table LP's never breathe - fact!

  • @CenturyVole
    @CenturyVole 5 лет назад +9

    This is simply the actual high water mark for this band. Never better. 1980-81. Fall zenith.

    • @hilaryjohnson2386
      @hilaryjohnson2386 8 месяцев назад

      Extend that to 1985 and I would agree with you.

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 7 месяцев назад

      80-82 surely?

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@hilaryjohnson2386totally different band by 1985. The only year I saw then live, coincidentally. Was that the year of the Hey Luciana! play cos I saw that too?

    • @jimburton1
      @jimburton1 5 месяцев назад

      The point of the Fall is the whole thing

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 5 месяцев назад

      @@jimburton1 there's this myth about the Fall now, that everything he touched was gold. I've listened to some of the later hired hand records and they're just competent garage rock.
      The true Fall was the creeping dread Fall, and, it's true, no-one can keep that schtick going for too long.
      It either kills you (artistically or otherwise) or you become a self-parody like Tom Waits or Nick Cave.

  • @raymondweiss2707
    @raymondweiss2707 4 месяца назад +1

    fun fact, this is also Paul Hanley's first recording w/ the band replacing the drummer from Dragnet

  • @palmeracallejera
    @palmeracallejera 12 лет назад +1

    Thank thee much for this. Amen to thee and thine.
    .

  • @mesolithicman164
    @mesolithicman164 9 месяцев назад +2

    There is something jazz-like going on here. Smith might hate that, but within the groove there is a certain amount of variation and concentration.

    • @assvibes3866
      @assvibes3866 Месяц назад

      I’d say techno like myself

  • @elwoodblues7157
    @elwoodblues7157 3 года назад +7

    This is the song I play, if someone asks "what kind of music is the Fall?"

  • @SoulStylistJukeBox
    @SoulStylistJukeBox 7 лет назад +2

    Love the altered lyrics in this version.

  • @thomascook746
    @thomascook746 Год назад +2

    Prophetic.

  • @vhliv
    @vhliv Год назад +3

    A rant like no other. I have always wondered if MES ever ranted like this just sitting at his local.

    • @Hereford1642
      @Hereford1642 3 месяца назад

      There is an interesting interview by Krishnan Guru Murphy (I think) with an older MES in a pub where MES explains why he does not think large scale immigration to his area is a good thing.

    • @kelechi_77
      @kelechi_77 3 месяца назад

      @@Hereford1642 what does that have to do with anything?

    • @Hereford1642
      @Hereford1642 3 месяца назад

      @@kelechi_77 My comment is in response to someone wondering what MES might rant about in his local. The Guru Murphy interview was in his local.
      Do you get it now ?

  • @laurenh5066
    @laurenh5066 10 лет назад +15

    A PTERODACTYL... CACKLE!

  • @alexerb8310
    @alexerb8310 8 лет назад +2

    this is really good

  • @coldwar1977
    @coldwar1977 2 месяца назад

    what a track!

  • @stevelanciloti1071
    @stevelanciloti1071 6 лет назад +1

    Awesome TY

  • @yelly1977
    @yelly1977 6 лет назад +3

    RIP Mr Smith

  • @lorenzoorzari4996
    @lorenzoorzari4996 5 лет назад +2

    Raw and relentless.

  • @macthe-qy2ip
    @macthe-qy2ip 4 месяца назад

    Defiance like no other

  • @d_walsh
    @d_walsh 3 года назад +1

    Thats quite the racket. FALL expertise

  • @johncarty9072
    @johncarty9072 6 лет назад +2

    RIP MES genius

  • @1963johnbhoy
    @1963johnbhoy 11 лет назад

    Strongly agree Mark and you should know.

  • @michaelcolello2735
    @michaelcolello2735 11 лет назад +3

    THIS IS THE GRIM REEFER

  • @bertbretherton
    @bertbretherton 5 лет назад +1

    DEFINES being DEFIANT.

  • @meinholundermann
    @meinholundermann Год назад

    very good

  • @elizabethhann4028
    @elizabethhann4028 7 лет назад +7

    Oh man, this is a deeply creepy song. I know it's supposed to be an irreverent track, but sometimes, man, Mark E. Smith sounds just like HE MEANS IT.

    • @Jesusjuicerful
      @Jesusjuicerful 7 лет назад +1

      Elizabeth Hann He does... or he did then anyway.

    • @elizabethhann4028
      @elizabethhann4028 7 лет назад +1

      You don't think he sounds like he means it anymore?
      Thanks for responding, anyway.

    • @MisterSpinalzo
      @MisterSpinalzo 4 года назад +5

      I'm 100% convinced he always meant it

  • @emperorsnewclothes9405
    @emperorsnewclothes9405 3 года назад +4

    smiffy predicts the 2020's

  • @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah
    @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah 3 года назад +4

    A parody of XTC! I like it... IMHO

    • @chaunceyloveshack9530
      @chaunceyloveshack9530 2 года назад

      how so?

    • @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah
      @Freddy-Da-Freeloadah 2 года назад

      ​@@chaunceyloveshack9530 You don't think the opening drum beat sounds like a mutant version of "Making Plans For Nigel"? ruclips.net/video/yp-WJXOb2V4/видео.html

    • @rafaelfernandeslopesdeoliv1700
      @rafaelfernandeslopesdeoliv1700 Год назад +1

      @@chaunceyloveshack9530 the drums are very much like the drums in making plans for nigel.

  • @Scitzowicz
    @Scitzowicz 8 лет назад +1

    Far far better than very very good *...I'd say

  • @TenementFunster.74
    @TenementFunster.74 10 лет назад +4

    prefer this versh

  • @Unfunny_Username_389
    @Unfunny_Username_389 7 лет назад +2

    This is the grim reefer.

  • @andrina118
    @andrina118 10 лет назад +7

    The whole country is post-gramme.....

    • @NegOedipal
      @NegOedipal 10 лет назад

      the whole country is grotesque

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 7 лет назад +1

      With a high grim quota

    • @andrina118
      @andrina118 7 лет назад +2

      the villagers dance round prefabs and laugh through twisted mouths, don't eat it's disallowed ....

  • @JMarinelli
    @JMarinelli 3 года назад

    The superior version

  • @mauriceleahy7914
    @mauriceleahy7914 2 года назад +1

    Paul Hanley was the most under rated Fall drummer.

    • @raymondweiss2707
      @raymondweiss2707 2 года назад +2

      Underrated? I don't think so, maybe underappreciated, but he and his brother formed the main rhythm section of the band during their glory years - while not as flashy as Karl (Brilliant in his own right) the Hanleys are tight as fuck.

  • @RayZappa
    @RayZappa Год назад +1

    What do you mean "What's it mean? What's it mean?" ?

  • @BreconWalsh
    @BreconWalsh Месяц назад

    'Rock' is a four letter word.

  • @Scitzowicz
    @Scitzowicz 5 лет назад +2

    pterodactyl cackle *

  • @CenturyVole
    @CenturyVole 4 года назад +2

    I'll second that. Best Fall song ever. The NWRA is second. This sounds nothing like the Dragnet version.

    • @hilaryjohnson2386
      @hilaryjohnson2386 8 месяцев назад

      It's impossible to pick a favourite Fall track.So many to chose from.

  • @fancynot
    @fancynot 14 лет назад

    *ah ouais, LA version qui tue !

  • @LondonDada
    @LondonDada 8 лет назад

    ' The grim reefer ' .. def lol

  • @turnipbursttalcumpowder7141
    @turnipbursttalcumpowder7141 2 года назад

    🐧

  • @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322
    @TheOneManArmyyyyy2322 4 года назад +3

    The two people who pressed the dislike button must be Maroon 5 fans.

  • @zetetick395
    @zetetick395 4 года назад

    Dripping with furious post punk menace!
    Also : I need this record sleeve on a T shirt :D

  • @neilclarkson7365
    @neilclarkson7365 2 года назад +1

    Absolute classic, and never given a proper release.

    • @sir.public
      @sir.public Год назад +3

      this is the proper release

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 7 месяцев назад

      What are you talking about? It's on the Kicker Conspiracy double 7" and the Peel Sessions box. What more 'real' do you want?

    • @neilclarkson7365
      @neilclarkson7365 7 месяцев назад

      Jeez there’s some nippy people on here, very rude.

    • @Spectrescup
      @Spectrescup 7 месяцев назад

      @@neilclarkson7365 well why make patently false comments?

    • @neilclarkson7365
      @neilclarkson7365 7 месяцев назад

      Congratulations, your keyboard warrior skills are exemplary

  • @DrStrangeSpock
    @DrStrangeSpock 8 лет назад

    Drinkin heavily & Smoking tobacco!? New Puritans hate the poet Mark E. Smith and his commentaries ......ha ha ha ha ha. Pure on. Ciggie at side as seen. OMG not Puritan!

    • @mrblue99999
      @mrblue99999 2 года назад +1

      He was referring to artistic integrity and discipline. Not yoga.