He got me on the Big Rabbit comment. I can speak to this from last season. The bigger does that I was after with my tags became brush rabbits and I'd find beds in the worst thick growth even a dog would not want to track in, but they learn to stay clear of the pressure of roads, clearings, and open space. Even with a pair of moccasins a hunter can't sneak in the brush they find. You can only hunt with a partner and hope someone gets to see one you pressure out of the thickets or just move on to a new area.
An ole timmer that I would take advice from back when he was still around always told me "If ya wanna shoot big bucks then ya don't hunt for bucks. Ya hunt for rabbits. ". I can't recall him getting much under 140 his last 20 years in the field.
Hey Rodney, First I would like to tell you that the content of your videos is both informative and entertaining. All of you seem to be the kind of guys we all like to hang around with. I’ve been hunting in Maine since 1992 . . .my gosh. . . . anyway do you hunt up in the Allagash up north toward Oxbow? Or in the Shin Pond area or Island Falls? So much of your videos looks familiar to me and a good friend of mine who lives on Shin Pond. Again, great videos!
Both my buddies VT buck and mine were shot on the edge of some nasty alder swamps last year, so calling them “Big Rabbits” is definitely relevant after the crap they brought us through. Also, has Rodney ever been involved with the VT F&W Board? His extensive knowledge of heard management would be very useful and I believe there’s some seats opening up this year.
I couldn’t agree more about training deer from birth to avoid man. I try to pick out a buck a year or more a head of when I would want to harvest him and avoid him as well as especially older doe from then on. I only hunt during the rut and let them come to me when the bucks are considering only one thing and that’s generally not me. Also don’t screw up the first chance you get because they then will leave area. I am able to hunt this way since I live with the deer I hunt year round and don’t have hunter pressure as a rule which allows this system to work well most of the time. We as hunters have to learn how to exist in the deer’s habitat. You mentioned how much lead deer can absorb even when they are dead , it truly is most amazing! Anyway, love your content and the efforts you put into making them. Thank you for sharing your adventures.
Pressure, you should have been around in the seventys and eightys in Central Pa . Boasted a million licensed hunters back in the day ! Opening day sounded like a war ! Nonstop shooting , started ten minutes before daylight,slowed down at noon, then picked up after lunch till dark!
This discussion sounds just like the deer I hunt on Public in Pa.They are like rabbits and nocturnal and they get a MOLECULE in their nose of a human they are gone way ahead of you..
A good small game year a lot of birds and rabbits making noise in the woods all year. You can walk right up on them deer no problem. You gotta get out of the truck.
I see it every year. The first week of the reg firearms season and there’s deer everywhere, then come the second week of the season and the deer have disappeared. They’ve completely changed their pattern, they’re no longer moving around during the daylight hours and are only moving at night. I hit it hard the first week and just have come to terms with if I don’t tag out the first week then I probably won’t tag out at all that season. That’s been my experience on the mid coast if Maine where I’m at
Same in Wisconsin, I used to blame it all on hunters , they start climbing around the woods days before leaving sent everywhere and the deer get nervous. However I noticed this year the same thing happens to a bunch of deer that I see every night after work, that is until the chase phase of the rut turns on, that's when I realized that the does are probably hiding a bit from the bucks. This field I see them in there is no hunting areas for miles it's just in town deer. All I saw for about 3 weeks was maybe a single buck sent checking the field as he passes through, one night was a nice buck chasing a doe, most nights just nothing maybe a single doe and fawn once and awhile. The field is well lit with background lights from business and the deer don't fear humans much, I can sit and watch them from 30 yards and they don't spook, probably a group of 25 deer come and go in that field, I've seen as many as 6 bucks together and 10 does in Sept October. So now I think it's a bit of both hunters and the rut.
Are your areas over run with hunters? Seems like you guys are all over and I never see other hunters in your videos. Are you just editing that out? I kind of envy you in a way as it seems you can walk 10 miles and not bump into another hunter!
@@stevedenoyer5956 lol it’s hard to do in thicker woods. We did actually see more people this year we hunted much lower then usual which means you have to shy away from people woods. (The good visibility and easy walking)
Double edge sword eh? Get to share your story and be popular is always nice, but there's draw backs for sure. That western area is tough no doubt you boys do good. Luckily where I'm at its pretty remote. Got a few deer around that aren't super pressured. Seen a few more green plates last year though. Few from NY but huntings been good so can't complain too much.
@@r.m.jackson6778 Vermont has antler restrictions and it does move the average deer taken into the next age class but that is “check station view “ I call it. The younger ones are off limits so looking at what has dies and they all seem bigger but what’s on the land is lots of small bucks! Lol. The dept in Vermont surveyed hunters many times and they are die hard buck hunters with only one in three willing to kill does. So they basically kill buck keeping up with available buck.
A good small game year a lot of birds and rabbits making noise in the woods all year. You can walk right up on them deer no problem. You gotta get out of the truck.
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You are right on this. It’s amazing how deer get smart to guys tracking them or attempting to.
He got me on the Big Rabbit comment. I can speak to this from last season. The bigger does that I was after with my tags became brush rabbits and I'd find beds in the worst thick growth even a dog would not want to track in, but they learn to stay clear of the pressure of roads, clearings, and open space. Even with a pair of moccasins a hunter can't sneak in the brush they find. You can only hunt with a partner and hope someone gets to see one you pressure out of the thickets or just move on to a new area.
This was super cool! I really enjoyed it.
An ole timmer that I would take advice from back when he was still around always told me "If ya wanna shoot big bucks then ya don't hunt for bucks. Ya hunt for rabbits. ". I can't recall him getting much under 140 his last 20 years in the field.
That’s a fact
They look right over the top of them looking for this monster you look for a rabbit you’ll see a deer….
Hey Rodney, First I would like to tell you that the content of your videos is both informative and entertaining. All of you seem to be the kind of guys we all like to hang around with. I’ve been hunting in Maine since 1992 . . .my gosh. . . . anyway do you hunt up in the Allagash up north toward Oxbow? Or in the Shin Pond area or Island Falls? So much of your videos looks familiar to me and a good friend of mine who lives on Shin Pond.
Again, great videos!
@@2putts2win western Maine but I did hunt baker lake long time ago.
Both my buddies VT buck and mine were shot on the edge of some nasty alder swamps last year, so calling them “Big Rabbits” is definitely relevant after the crap they brought us through. Also, has Rodney ever been involved with the VT F&W Board? His extensive knowledge of heard management would be very useful and I believe there’s some seats opening up this year.
I couldn’t agree more about training deer from birth to avoid man. I try to pick out a buck a year or more a head of when I would want to harvest him and avoid him as well as especially older doe from then on. I only hunt during the rut and let them come to me when the bucks are considering only one thing and that’s generally not me. Also don’t screw up the first chance you get because they then will leave area. I am able to hunt this way since I live with the deer I hunt year round and don’t have hunter pressure as a rule which allows this system to work well most of the time. We as hunters have to learn how to exist in the deer’s habitat. You mentioned how much lead deer can absorb even when they are dead , it truly is most amazing!
Anyway, love your content and the efforts you put into making them. Thank you for sharing your adventures.
Great chat. I apologize for chewing up a big chunk of your day! Haha the deer weren't moving anyways 😅
@@berttracy90 it was great then my battery died. Lol
@mtndeer truck battery?
@@berttracy90 camera
Pressure, you should have been around in the seventys and eightys in Central Pa . Boasted a million licensed hunters back in the day ! Opening day sounded like a war ! Nonstop shooting , started ten minutes before daylight,slowed down at noon, then picked up after lunch till dark!
I know nobody hunts anymore
They're all gone been gone sorry to say.
Where you guys been?
The Keith Warren video of him hunting a doe with a 50. He misses it and the round was so close ,its lookers popped out.
If you hunt high pressure areas like I do the mature buck rarely if ever come to a call. Small buck and does will.
Are you talking to Brandon at the start of the video sounds like Steve too ? Awesome video
@@paulmoody4224 nope one in the woods I think
This discussion sounds just like the deer I hunt on Public in Pa.They are like rabbits and nocturnal and they get a MOLECULE in their nose of a human they are gone way ahead of you..
A good small game year a lot of birds and rabbits making noise in the woods all year. You can walk right up on them deer no problem. You gotta get out of the truck.
This sounds an awful lot like bucks in the ADKs where I hunt.
Deer deer everywhere a deer🦌🦌🤣
Oh Dear
Any chance Mountain Deer crew will be at Maine Sportsman Show in Augusta Me. This year March/April 2025 doing seminars??
@@bryanross1135 never been asked. Lol
I see it every year. The first week of the reg firearms season and there’s deer everywhere, then come the second week of the season and the deer have disappeared. They’ve completely changed their pattern, they’re no longer moving around during the daylight hours and are only moving at night. I hit it hard the first week and just have come to terms with if I don’t tag out the first week then I probably won’t tag out at all that season. That’s been my experience on the mid coast if Maine where I’m at
Central Maine same
Same in Wisconsin, I used to blame it all on hunters , they start climbing around the woods days before leaving sent everywhere and the deer get nervous.
However I noticed this year the same thing happens to a bunch of deer that I see every night after work, that is until the chase phase of the rut turns on, that's when I realized that the does are probably hiding a bit from the bucks. This field I see them in there is no hunting areas for miles it's just in town deer. All I saw for about 3 weeks was maybe a single buck sent checking the field as he passes through, one night was a nice buck chasing a doe, most nights just nothing maybe a single doe and fawn once and awhile. The field is well lit with background lights from business and the deer don't fear humans much, I can sit and watch them from 30 yards and they don't spook, probably a group of 25 deer come and go in that field, I've seen as many as 6 bucks together and 10 does in Sept October.
So now I think it's a bit of both hunters and the rut.
@@paulcoenen7918 I think same goes for the velvet shedding period and gps proves that to. Yep.
That's exactly what I say big rabbits
Seems like a typical conversation of a pickup Hunter. The successful guys are way out there away from the roads. Opinions galore. Bar talk.
Are your areas over run with hunters? Seems like you guys are all over and I never see other hunters in your videos. Are you just editing that out? I kind of envy you in a way as it seems you can walk 10 miles and not bump into another hunter!
@@stevedenoyer5956 lol it’s hard to do in thicker woods. We did actually see more people this year we hunted much lower then usual which means you have to shy away from people woods. (The good visibility and easy walking)
Double edge sword eh? Get to share your story and be popular is always nice, but there's draw backs for sure. That western area is tough no doubt you boys do good. Luckily where I'm at its pretty remote. Got a few deer around that aren't super pressured. Seen a few more green plates last year though. Few from NY but huntings been good so can't complain too much.
We make videos and wonder why everyone is doing what we do
I liked mountain hunting better before every idiot had a GPS !
PA made a regulation about twenty years ago that you couldn’t take any buck under 6 points, and I think after a year or two, all monsters
I have seen this reg for both deer and elk---never seen this result ???
@@r.m.jackson6778 Vermont has antler restrictions and it does move the average deer taken into the next age class but that is “check station view “ I call it. The younger ones are off limits so looking at what has dies and they all seem bigger but what’s on the land is lots of small bucks! Lol. The dept in Vermont surveyed hunters many times and they are die hard buck hunters with only one in three willing to kill does. So they basically kill buck keeping up with available buck.
Youve been one of the trainers.
Seems like educating people about tracking and calling is bad huh
@@toucanvanbeak helping deer isn’t bad in my view.
A good small game year a lot of birds and rabbits making noise in the woods all year. You can walk right up on them deer no problem. You gotta get out of the truck.