Revel M126Be is Almost Perfect.
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Compared to other channels that have strong emphasis on measurements, yours at least have a portion where you mention specific tracks and how it actually sound to you during your test… please continue to do so … great review btw…
Which other channel besides ASR is measuring?
@@astra004 I think Joe N Tell does some in room stuff but I'm curious too about anyone else who measures.
Again, a very lucid and insightful review. You do a better job than anyone, I think, with illustrating how the measurements correlate with what is being heard in the listening impressions.
I have a pair of the m106 and i love the neutrality and the way the sound never seems to be coming directly from the speakers. On the face of it, it doesnt look like the m126 is a significantly "better" speaker than the m106. Here in the UK the m106 can be had for £1k but the m126be are about £4k, im not convinced they're 4 x better (for my money anyway). Thanks for the top work Erin, glad to see you back mate.
They are wildly different when you AB compare the Performa and the Beryllium across all sizes. As daily drivers, for more diverse recordings, I tend to prefer your M106 and other Performa. f208 are awesome with some high power tube setups
I agree with Erin I love a wide radiation pattern that creates a larger soundstage❤❤
I like the "here's what I heard with this speaker" segment when you talk about the music.
I use one 126Be for my centre channel and the 226Be for the left and right. Love the sound of these speakers. PS. My room is also treated.
The measurements look quite a bit like those of the R3 Meta (except directivity of course). Seems like those two companies arrived at simliar goals for their bookshelf speakers.
A dealer for Purity Audio compared some top tier speakers from Genelec, Dutch & Dutch, and Kii, and mentioned that as speakers go up in quality that to some extent they start correlating with each other and the differences are subtle since they are all going for accuracy vs colored speakers that sound wildly different.
You just wrapped up the KEF R3meta set. How about a thought or two on which you prefer, if you prefer one.
I love Revel so much, but I need non-glossy speakers for my theater and it’s all they’ve got
Get black or white one, Remove drivers, terminal cup. Spray paint satin or matt.
Finally… Thanks to the GOAT Erin lol
Great review and great addition to give some reference about in room volume reference with compression graphs.
I listen to a lot of speakers review, by far I find your reviews is spot on with my ears. I owned these revels and exactly what I hear. Great review. I hope you'll find time to review the B&W 805 D4 soon.
B&W sound it's totally difference than revels! I know when I was buying revel f208 I listening something same price B&W and there was totally lot worse. Expensive B&W have same house sound too.
Hello! You raised a good point with the distortion values. Because I listen to music mostly at concert level, (90 db or more) the smoothness or balance of the response becomes quite important. Most reviewers only refer to the 1 Watt-1 meter graphic to see if the sound is clean or not. Your methodology is excellent and it makes for a great review.
Suprising measurements seeing that these are the near the top of the Revel bookshelf food chain. Revel dont seem to care much about diffraction, maybe because they know the effects of diffraction isnt really going to change the preference in a blind test. 🤷♂️ And for 4 and a half grand, nah, Im just gonna get myself a large floorstander.
The Ultima2 line was designed to eliminate diffraction. They had to discontinue it because the rounded baffles had to be built by hand, and it got too expensive. They are aware of the problem but have to engineer around it to lower costs.
The waveguide was designed for the 5.25 midrange not a 6 in midbass. They crossed the tweeter at 1700 hz in the 126, 400 hz lower than the 106 and 600 hz lower than the 226. Either you can have a smoother response or more bass output in a 2 way but hard to have both.
At this price I expect no compression in the mid/highs at those levels. The R3 Meta is much better value than this imho
Revel compromised the design. They crossed the tweeter at 1.7k. Probably better to use the 5.25 midrange driver as the midbass driver used in the 226 and 228 and crossed higher and settled for lower bass output. Either smoother in the lower treble region or lower bass output, hard to have both in a 2 way design.
I think a dip between 2-3k is really nice as thats where harshness and phase problems live due to crossover region.
A member on the online forum I am member of have more or less built an improved clone of these.
Very similar drivers are available for diy. Theyre the SB17NBAC and SB26ADC. These are some of the lowest distortion drivers one can buy.
One need to spend alot more money to get something better.
If one want to build a 3-way use the 5” version mid and the Satori WO24.
For the same price you can get a pair of F206 and they work great even in a small room.
For 4400 you can just get the BMR Tower which is comparable to the F228be, I'll pass.
Certainly good speakers but no way I'm paying that much for a normal 2 ways book shelf.
Appreciate the comments on apparent source width. Spot on.
I've also explored coverage angles, and the experiences sidewall energy elicits.
Elements contributing to ASW;
- source radiation coverage
- sidewall proximity, geometry, and acoustic characteristics
- psychoacoustic manipulation in the mix
Even a spectral tilt can be used to generate perceived height, ... via our pinna shape.
I recall years ago Dr. Toole suggesting listeners getting a "second look" at the playback reproduction via the first sidewall reflection, claiming it can actually solidified intelligibility.
This runs counter to best practices of the ETC measurement, like a 10dB reduction by 40msec.
But like most all things acoustic, experiencing that sidewall energy isn't universally good, it just depends.
If you enjoy outside the speaker tracks, Chesky Jazz Vol 3, track 46 or 47, Amused to Death, Ballad of Billy. I was also Intrigued by these speakers but decided on the Fritz Carrera 7 BE's. Review those if you can.
Those fritzs look amazing.
I’m actually still looking for low level quality and listening at LOW LEVELS! It’s the key! After 2 years of market research in my opinion
Please tell me more what you have found out so far.
I'm in the same boat. I've heard the Klipsch Cornwall plays very well at low volume but awfully big and expensive.
@@59seankhaha they are my go-to low level listening. I actually prefer the Cornwall at lower levels -- they are sublime. (And huge).
Someone else here mentioned Cornwall. They are masters at low level. You may investigate Totem, they also pull off that trick really well. Forest and forget the other. Dynaudio Special 40 did it well too for me at low level
I'm after reasonably priced bookshelves that sound great at low levels
I'm really curious if the woofer manufacturer is SB Acoustics since the speaker really looks like the SB17CAC35 ceramic woofer. I've seen a picture of the back of the woofer and the basket looks slightly different, or I should say, weaker, but the magnet is identical. From my DIY speaker building experience, I'd put them at around 600$ of parts, which is around 25% of the MSRP. They look pretty solid!
It is not. I have taken mine out. Only the cone loks like an SB woofer. EVerything else, motor, basket ect is clearly not. Might be custom Harman or could be Scan Speak. It is a beastly motor by the way for this type of design. The driver has a higher FS (65-70hrz) which I think is good considering the design goals and small enclosure.
It isn't. Revel fired SB Acoustics several years back. However, Revel went to Eastec and basically copied the designs. Hence the fact that they look like SBA clones; they basically are. Eastec is a Chinese OEM. Classy move. Lol.
Thanks for straightening the rumors out. So it is not SB, has very different suspension, motor a bit similar. I wonder how different is cone of the 17NBA/CAC. Anyway, I tried the 17NBAC35-4 and ... While the details were amazing it has too much metal cone flavor and brightness for me to call it neutral. The bass in 17L tuned in 40Hz area also had some tendencies to go a bit boom. I think the paper cone version is much 'easier' on ears. And both, well, all SB midbass drivers require very complicated filter topology to push them into LR4 around 2kHz X-O point. Supposedly the CRC Rohacell/carbon cone is the nicest sounding one - I'm tempted.
P.S. is the tweeter a copy of a 26ADC family (for the regular M126 version) or entirely different design ?
@@pliedtka The tweeter is a hybrid of SBA and Scan designs.
Yeah I prefer the paper or NRX to any SBA metal cone. Cone cry is an issue with SBA metal cones when used as mids.
@@DBravo29er seems we are on the same page 👍
Honestly, I'm underwhelmed by the measurements of this speaker. They wood be good for a $2200/pr speaker. $4400/pr? For a brand that has built their name on technical measurements???? Nope. Pass.
Another great review, Erin!! Superb comments on listening on axis vs off. Desperately needed context. 🙌
Especially the revered Beryllium tweeter. The R3 Metas tweeter performed better and that's somewhat limited by being coaxial.
Similar to Focals Beryllium tweeter, they aren't all that good either. Sure, they're fine, especially at reasonable levels, but not really better than a run of the mill aluminium or soft dome.
The Beryllium... Hurts too much even considering something like SB Acoustics or ScanSpeak
@@BL-yj2wp Having heard the R3, R3 Meta, and M126Be, I world take either KEF over the Revel. Price agnostic.
@@DBravo29er
So would I, really mostly because of the vertical directivity, coaxials are unbeatable for nearfield applications for me.
These are on my shortlist but I could only live with them in my bedroom... These smaller drivers can't fill my living room with happiness
I have these Revel speakers in my bedroom and they are wonderful. I had them in my living room and decided to get their big brothers the Revel F328Be towers to replace them. Now my stereo room and bedroom both have wonderful audio.
@@sharpenedsense holy cow dude
i have heard sounds three or more feet out from my NHT Superzeros, and i paid $126 for both, new.
The Revel Berrylium have a lot of performance and a lot on offer, but they can be a lot to handle and seem a bit pricey when you look at the build. They dont seem to have a tonality that i jive with either. Very cool, maybe neutral. I prefer some warmth and tonal richness.
i once had a pair of speakers that had such a wide imaging... no matter where they were or waht was playing, it was weird. as if someone would turn up a stereo enhancer vst to 11
i even could put them on the floor (later used them on my workbench for testing stuff) and the sound came from front, back, sides everywhere. they completely disappeared. i never found that effect ever again on any speaker. unfourtainly they were quite underpowered for my needs..
not sure if they still can be found they were called magnat motion 110 picked them up 20 years ago in a hardware store for like 25 bucks a piece from bin that was full of them
The decompression at 1.7Hz is probably coming from the tweeter. That's lower than they normally cross the tweeter.
Seriously great job!
I own both the 226 and 126. Revel chose to cross the 126 over at 1.7 kHz to meet the geometry of the wave guide size apparently. They probably should have chosen to go with the 5.25 inch drive and crossed it over at higher frequency and then rolled the bass off higher. It would have lower bass output but when used with subs a much better performer. After watching this video I used a parametric eq to cut 1700 hz 3 db with a high q and then filled in the 3000 hz dip with another eq setting. This didn’t seem to change the tonality to my ears but cleaned up the lower treble region. To my ears much better sounding now.
I'm confused... Erin mentions knocking down 3kHz by 1 dB. However, looking at the graphs, I see why you would fill it in. Could you explain what I'm missing?
I hope you can get your hands on a pair of Heco speakers to review
Revel / Monolith THX-365T - they both have the very same Peak/Dip at their crossover points (1.7K / 1.9K) for the Compression testing. So yeah the < $1000 365T has it, but then so does the > $4000 Revel. I own the 365T and have yet to figure out the root cause, but then I'm not finding anything terribly offensive (especially after some mindful EQ) and so I haven't spent much time trying to figure it out.
If I understand the measurements correctly, the Kef R-3 Meta measures a little better than this and the Polk R200 a little worse? The price difference between these is huge, though. Maybe the R200 isn't too bad in its price range?
I think you are more or less correct but I will say I think the quality of revel’s highs are much better. Cleaner and more detailed to my ear.
I having heard the Kef Reference 3 and revel 328be back to back and owning the 228be for a few years. Never buy revel at retail. At 40% they are a “good” buy.
@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm I believe it. For that price, it better be.
Excellent review, the gold standard. Much appreciated.
Excellent review. Your testing has confirmed that this speaker is likely not for me.
@avnut5517
And, IMO, this is one of the best things about the reviews and data that Erin provides. 👍
I am wondering if they are using the SB ceramic woofer.
No, Revel designs their own drivers unlike Klipsch
Doesn't JBL / Revel make everything them self?
It looks a little different now, doesn't have the slits in the cone like they used to.
I mentioned in another reply but no, this is not an SB. Could be a Scan Speak based on the motor and frame. In any case most certainly not off the shelf. Harman would custom design the drivers and then have a manufacturer build to spec. Often the most economical way to go vs actually running all your own production with the required production equipment. Even for a huge company like Harman/Samsung.
@@jasonkillsformomy No. A lot of the production is outsourced and this does make sense. JBL might still make all their own drivers. I'd suspect Revel engineers their stuff in tandem with an established OEM driver producer. Historically people have deduced a few partners. SB Acoustics/Scan Speak are two that I have seen in person. Remeber that doesn't imply the driver was not heavily customized to meet Revel design spec nor that Revel did not do a lot of the R&D. Alot propabily depends on the specific model. Something like the JBL 530 has sold in tens of thousands but this M126be will be much, much lower sales volume. Deciding to outsource will be affect by sales potentials.
Boy I found a pair for half price and am still wondering whether the KEF r3 meta are better?
Thanks @John Schuerman and The Screening Room AV for sending the speakers for review!! Support small businesses!!!
Excellent review. I think there's a lot of competition in that price range. If I were spending the money, I would probably look elsewhere. By the way, I get very good bass output in my room from my Bowers & Wilkins 705 bookshelves. These are the original models. An awesome cabinet. Built in the United Kingdom. Good performance to 34 DB and not bad at 31db. I don't have your equipment but enjoyable to listen to at the lower frequencies. I would say it does not have the classic B and W sound. It rolls off nicely towards the higher end. And only $800 used!
Yes $4400 retail, but many dealers will discount Revel (but can’t advertise lower prices). Also Revel runs sales from time to time. Can easily be had under
Mine were $2700 brand new Authorized dealer shipped all in. No way I'd pay $4400 and I love mine. I think Harman has built in huge markups so dealers can play around a lot. I'd shoot for $3k and if you get it for less = awesome.
Very true. I bought the $11,000 228be for $6300 new in the box.
I owned these for a while. Highly detailed and refined, but there are flaws in the upper mid bass and there can be grain issues unless you match amp/pre-amp carefully. My Kef r3 is a more musical experience 95% of the time, though less detailed. R3 Meta actually has some of the same grain issues without careful choice of associated gear. I didn't keep the 126be's because they underperformed for the money...and I paid 2500 for a used pair. They were replaced with Magnepan .7's and a pair of SVS SB3000 subs, which is about the same money, but far more musical. I'd also rate my KLH Model 5's as more enjoyable than the 126be's. On the other hand, matched correctly and with top level recordings, the 126be's can prove their high-end price point quite nicely. For most people there will be better choices for less money. BTW, if you want a great speaker, find the non-meta version of the Kef R3's. They are sweet and almost full range for many recordings; a very musical design that is forgiving enough to live with.
Hey Erin you should test the Elac Carina floorstanders!They are another Andrew Jones's masterpiece!
Open one up, cheap parts and magnetic binding posts
Another great data point that spending a lot of money on a 2-way speaker doesn't make sense, even if Revel makes it.
Superb.
Would love to get you take and review of GR Research NX-Studio
If these are almost perfect, how do they compare to the March Audio Sointuva speakers you previously reviewed? You said that the March was the most accurate bookshelf speaker you ever tested. Is that not close to perfect, or is there something missing in the March that the Revel 126Be has? They are in the same price range.
The Sointuva has a much more narrow radiation pattern.
Tradeoffs.
Subjectively, which speaker did you prefer in your listening tests? I know it's hard to do with gaps in time, but I generally remember something that was superior to the rest.@@ErinsAudioCorner
I'm curious about the comments on bass shelf. Revel makes excellent speakers for sure. Let's compare against the Aperion V8B. In Revel, here are some data points: F3=103 Hz, F6=50 Hz, F10=44 Hz. In Aperion, F3=55 Hz, F6=46 Hz, F10=40 Hz. So in general, anything F10 and above, the Aperion is producing more bass. Similar to your comment in the Kef R3 Meta, the R3's data points in your plots are: F3=72 Hz, F6=59 Hz, F10=40 Hz. In all 3 speakers, at every F(x) data point, the V8 has more output up to F10. How can you state the bass sounds stronger with these bass shelfs when the datapoints versus the Aperion V8B as the plots do not match the claim? I'd like to be educated here in the thoughts of room gain. Thanks.
If you want to have a truly three dimensional sound stage with tremendous width and depth with ANY speaker, then cross-talk cancellation is the way to go.
they are way to small for 4400$ , when i received mine one of the magnets had fallen off the speaker and hit the crossover.
Amplifiers are generally rated at 4 and 8 ohm. Many have double the wattage at 4 ohm as 8 ohm.
A speaker varies its impendence over the frequency range. How does this impact the quality of the sound from any particular amplifier, speaker combination? Seems like it would degrade the sound if the power out changes over the frequency range.
Greetings Erin
Your reviews are outstanding keep up the amazing effort
Are there any opportunity to review the wharfedale evo 4.2 / 4.4 ?
I cant wait to break down this particular spekar professionally as you always do
i bought a used pair off ebay and they came with the magnet completely off the voice coil sitting on the crossover
Linearity response at around 1.7Khz has higher THD is when the impedance of speaker will be capacitive (negative phase angel) amplifier worker harder produce more distortion . is it ? if you put over impedance curve you will see it.
Interesting your compression data shows that 6.5” woofer takes a dive at its upper crossover point. Show the tower 226be/228be is probably worth the upgrade if you have the money. I used the 228be for about two years (sold now) and really like them with subs. Without subs they were very light on the lower bass.
What did you change to?
@@Ctripp2448 JBL 4367. I use two JL subs highpassed at 60hz with both speakers.
I had both the 228be and the 4367 in the same room for while doing direct A/B switching using a McIntosh MC462 amp.
The 4367 is honestly better in every way. Much more detailed top to bottom. The big thing is it is more dynamic and just sounds more real and live for lack of a better word.
I alway thought the 228be was super detailed in the mids and highs but the 4367 is much more detailed in the highs and about the same in the mids. I would say they have the same in room tonal balance and with the treble set lowing on the 4367 switch is darker/warmer then the revel. With the switches turned up they are brighter than the revel.
The bass on the 4367 is comically better. Way more detailed, textured, and deeper.
The odd thing is the soundstage size is about the same. You would expect the 228be to be wider, I guess it was but not really. My room is 25/42/8 and heavily treated.
It’s not the midbass driver it’s the tweeter. The midbass is doing less work than in either the 106 or the 105. The crossover point is at 1700 hz, one of the lowest points I can find for a tweeter.
@@matthewfrazee3352 yes looks like you are right, looking closer. Anyway good speakers but the entire line needs subs. Even the 328be I liked better with subs crossover at 60hz. I tried it both ways at the dealer then bought the 228be on an open box deal. I have since moved on but still like the brand fine. Over priced compared to cheaper stuff but cheaper compared to “higher” end stuff (wilson B&W, etc) so… price is probably ok in audio land…
@@JamesWilliams-gf8gm I am 55 and this is the best time to be into audio. Great performance from modestly priced gear. If you can get the revels at discounted prices they are an ‘audiophile’ bargain. although I like a little bit of audio jewelry mixed in. I use a minidsp shd as a preamp into the power section of a luxman 507z. Using minidsp shd to integrate 2 svs sb3000s with the revel 226s give me great full range sound. Sound like this 30 years ago would have cost multiples more than I paid and I could have done it for much less but some audio jewelry is fun too.
With the compression, it looks like the midrange is between .5 and 1dB. Is it true that 1dB is about how much of a volume difference the average person can hear in a totally silent treated room, and 3dB is about the volume change in a residential room for an average person to notice?
(Of course, someone who obsesses over these things may notice more, but I'd forgive anything at or under ~2dB. Turn off the AC and fans and fridge and you'll get more dynamic range than worrying about the compression on this speaker and most others.)
These cost the same as the philharmonic HT towers.
Great review! This looks like a nice speaker, but a terrible value for the $$.
12:10 If the speaker designers purposefully choose to use a driver arrangement that creates lobes, there will be issues at the crossover region that are not the fault of the crossover itself, but the inherent disadvantages of non-coaxial speakers.
:)
Definitely biased in favor of coaxials and a stickler, but I REALLY want Revel and D&D and Kii to make some coaxial speakers, especially since there are now zero inherent issues with coaxial drivers besides price.
A wider dispersion revel coaxial would be great to compare to a KEF or Genelec and see what I liked. Unfortunately they don't make one. Prior to this year the last valid argument I heard against coaxials was from an email with Genelec stating that there was no compression driver+midrange that would work for accurate, high SPL speakers. Now they have fixed that like they've fixed every other issue documented in their 8260 whitepaper from 2010.
I know not everyone does yoga, lays on the couch, sits and leans at different head heights, plays mario kart on the floor, stands up to get a drink during a movie and cares, etc. but the most ragged response from most speakers is their ceiling and floor reflections, and some people don't realize that their ceiling may actually be closer to the tweeter than the walls of their listening room.
Super important for these companies to figure out their vertical response and also increase their usability for center channels as a bonus... Heck, even my Genelec 8351b center isn't perfect because there is some floor bounce, but man is it better than two and three way speakers that have lobes like that.
For my use I wouldn't be surprised if I liked a set of $800 Kali's better because, while I'd appreciate the on axis response when I'm sitting up and listening from the middle seat, I'd also notice the vertical dispersion issues. Maybe these would be good for nearfield at a desk though, as my standing desk keeps things more or less at ear level whether or not I'm sitting on standing.
I run into this issue too. I often stand at the front of my TV in the livingroom and the mid+upper freq response change off-axis on my 803d4s is something to cry about.
For that amount of money I would buy a pair of Sebelius speakers
If you want bookshelf speakers then consider the Closer Acoustics OGY. They’re as expensive as the KEF LS50 meta but have better highs, mids and imaging.
@@user-xg6zz8qs3qhose are speakers with sound flavour, for people with different taste. Kef ls50 is made by engineers.
Hey Erin, if you hear the left panned sound 3' left of the speaker, wouldn't you hear it 3' to the right of the speaker too? Effectively just being a wide sound, centered on the speaker? Is it the boundary reflections?
Been learning a lot in general. Lots of audiophillia - if not all when super spendy - seems like it’s constructed of mostly rich baby boomers scamming other rich baby boomers.
how does this compare to a Perlisten S bookshelf?
At what price would you consider these a value?
if revel made a small speaker that was not ported and focused on sound quality and knew people wanted to as subwoofer. now that is a speaker i can get behind. 20hz to 15khz is way to important.
now you can make a midwoofer to act more as a midrange.
You can seal this one. Comes with a bung to stuff the port.
Yeah, ... the bung hole.
@@FOH3663 oh lord… 😂😂
@@ErinsAudioCorner that is a half measure. and not my point at all. i want real engineering going into a speaker making it work as best it can with not port plugged compromise. one box can not be good at sealed and ported at the same time, not to mention the drivers choice and design.
so now you know. or maybe you did know but assumed and misunderstood my text.
or is this a bot you have payed for to add replies on youtube and this is not really you?
So EBS is the new trend in speaker design?
Not really. It's been around for a while
These speakers are 4 years old.
Love u bro
What would happen if you used a wide dispersion bookshelf on its side for a center under a tv
Terrible to place a 2-way on it's side...you would want to place it upright.
@@tylerrynberg why would it be terrible?
Looks like Revel has stopped spending in R&D after the original Performa series and the company is just a cash cow. They were 10 years ahead of competition, 10 years ago... What they spent in home audio research is the foundation of what they're doing in the most important market segments: car audio and headphones. But home audio is now lagging behind a bit...
Now KEF R3 meta is at the same or even better level at half the price
Ehhh…. These are about 4 years old now. So I don’t know that I’d compare it to a brand new design.
@@ErinsAudioCorner Then let's say it's the original R3 since the new Meta version doesn't have much difference from the original version.
Same or better level arguably, but inarguably better vertical response... and you can put it on its side for a center if you do movies or Atmos music.
I recently went to compare Paradigm 120H and Revel F228Be and in the end went with neither. 120H had great dynamics and clarity, but uneven forward highs where as F228Be lacked dynamics and overall sounded rather ethereal in a good and bad way. Between the two would be what I want.
Hi Erin, since you have done a lot of scientific review. Do u believe in synergy in audiophile? 😅 this is the magical word audiophile use all the time.
Nope. I believe components can be used incorrectly (like an amplifier driving a load it wasn’t designed for). But that’s about it.
4 grand .they can keep it
Wow, spending so much for a speaker that does not have a very good bass extension to me is rather disappointing. I mean, look at the Est. In Rm Response - it started to roll off at 150hz region and f3 went down to 55hz. That is going to take away bass punch in your kick drum. Even having a subwoofer, you can't properly implement a good cross-over point, which you are likely to end up at around 120hz region. That will make the bass from your sub more directional. Imho, I would rather go with a pair Linton and take a slight hit on the DI but using the spare cash to invest in a MiniDSP and a good sub.
I have no trouble getting a superb blend with several differnt subs @ different x-over points. Estimated in room is kind of pointless in the bass region IMHO. Room size and SBIR traits are such huge factors. By the way I have owned the Lintons and these two speakers sound pretty different. The Lintons are good but I did not like the trebble/tweeter. The bass on the Lintons is nice but since I have subs there is no benefit for that. I would never take the Linton's over the M126be's. Believe me on that, I sold those Lintons. Linton's were not for me, ultimately they came accross as a nice $400 5.25" 2-way set strapped to a very decent 8" woofer and splapped in an nice retro box. Totally decent.
Leggo
Too expensive for the performance.
I don't get the point of such an expensive bookshelf, even if I had the money I'd take towers
Depends on what you are looking for in a speaker. I have a pair of the M126be bookshelves and a pair of the F226be floorstanding speakers. The bookshelf speakers sound much better to my ear, better resolution and such. I suspect it is the crossover, the bookshelf has a fairly simple two way crossover, the floorstanding pair has a very complex three way crossover using very inexpensive parts,
Interesting, but for half the cost and the measurements, I'd much rather buy the Kef R3 Meta's.
$4,400 fingerprint magnets.
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Ohhh... got something in mind?
I dont care how good it sounds if its this ugly- I wouldnt want to buy it.
I rather take Kef R3
The horizontal axis wider dispersion is the only reason I'd go for this over an R3.
$4,400 book shelf speakers 😬 I paid $20 for RCA bookshelf speakers and Sherwood receiver. My neighbor wanted to donate them to Goodwill. I bet they sound as good as these speakers if not better.
OMG , 3% THD . so high level 🤔🤔🤪,with such price tag!! why is that ? I design power amplifier with 0.003 % THD , so it means the main THD would produce in speaker
That is always the case though... The speakers have more distortion and coloration than most any amp you are going to have, so don't worry so much about the amps and dacs and such as the speakers make most of the difference.
Totally fine to hook up $10,000 speakers to an amp or DAC that is a few hundred so long as it has enough power, and power is cheap these days.
I don't think I've ever seen Revel have a Sale on anything