The Slingshot - Universal Smash Ultimate Tech

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  • Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
  • ULTIMATE'S META FINALLY CHANGES
    The Slingshot is finally here! using the flickshot, holdshot, and fullshot you can access full control of your character in Ultimate! Not only that, the input shortcut opens up new options.
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Комментарии • 2,6 тыс.

  • @GimR
    @GimR  2 года назад +3347

    So...what are your thoughts?

  • @Cinder-Soft
    @Cinder-Soft 2 года назад +2002

    to see ganondorf escape AND punish an out of shield grab almost brought me to tears. thank you gimr

    • @hamzachaudhry9058
      @hamzachaudhry9058 2 года назад +30

      that was beautiful... it moved me to tears almost too!!

    • @pinkzki6473
      @pinkzki6473 2 года назад +55

      That’s what caught my eye the most lol. Ganny is now optimal! I wonder if this will shift character tier list.

    • @LloydTheZephyrian
      @LloydTheZephyrian 2 года назад +75

      @@pinkzki6473 Mewtwo's better off, now that he can get his big tail out of danger.

    • @Cashmoneez
      @Cashmoneez 2 года назад +3

      ez parry tho

    • @illford
      @illford 2 года назад +17

      @@Cashmoneez ez parry but good pressure. Ganon is slow so it's not hard to recognize the move and parry but it's about the spacing as opposed to the move coming out. Slower Characters in ult struggled due to lesser movement options, for reference in Melee Ganon just wavelanded to mitigate slow air and ground speed, but since wavedashing isn't nearly as good this is the best thing he has as it lets him run away with a wall in front or behind

  • @g3nd1a69
    @g3nd1a69 2 года назад +3808

    HE FINALLY MADE IT TO HIS LAB LET'S GO!!!

    • @odaciousL
      @odaciousL 2 года назад +125

      The real lab was the friends we made along the way

    • @GSEleven
      @GSEleven 2 года назад +82

      Long ass hallway...

    • @mellin7049
      @mellin7049 2 года назад +17

      @@odaciousL underrated comment

    • @Ridlay_
      @Ridlay_ 2 года назад +1

      :D

    • @MxPinky
      @MxPinky 2 года назад +5

      UH OH

  • @audioshake6366
    @audioshake6366 2 года назад +592

    we now live in an era where _ganondorf_ can be safe on shield, what a time to be alive

    • @squirtleislife1312
      @squirtleislife1312 2 года назад +69

      Ganondorf's nair is safe even if you do it while raising. Shield pressure is not his problem

    • @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
      @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 2 года назад +69

      Bair was already safe on shield, lol

    • @thatoddtenant4844
      @thatoddtenant4844 2 года назад +9

      @@squirtleislife1312 well it was, but the other way

    • @navataru
      @navataru 2 года назад +10

      His nair is not safe on shield. Even if rising. The safest move he has is the sweet spot max spaced Bair at -4 on shield.

    • @Caleb-zl4wk
      @Caleb-zl4wk 2 года назад +1

      @@squirtleislife1312 you funny

  • @soulvynthis334
    @soulvynthis334 2 года назад +889

    For those of you practicing but can’t quite tell if or when it’s working, use Mario, you’ll know when you have the backwards momentum but you don’t go through the backflip animation. Instead you’ll go through the forward jump animation while drifting backwards.

    • @nathanielburns6692
      @nathanielburns6692 2 года назад +12

      Thanks

    • @nathanielburns6692
      @nathanielburns6692 2 года назад +6

      I started trying out the lag cancel timing by putting cpu at 30 and then doing down tilt back air back air jab lock with Mario

    • @dayman7136
      @dayman7136 2 года назад +20

      That's a really good way of knowing if you got it, it doesn't have to be Mario tho, many characters have this to animations just as distinct, works with wolf too for example

    • @2Kaleb
      @2Kaleb 2 года назад

      So should it ne back or forward jump?

    • @dayman7136
      @dayman7136 2 года назад +3

      @@2Kaleb it should be the forward jump animation

  • @stephaniecurry45
    @stephaniecurry45 2 года назад +327

    As gimr noted, I think a lot of people knew about this at a basic level but never thought of how powerful it could be when incorporated with buffering and as an actual tool

    • @rosewendigo7748
      @rosewendigo7748 2 года назад +5

      Yeah, I remember I used to do something similar to the flickshot, but never did it at a perfect or significant level shown here.

    • @stillcantthinkofaname4800
      @stillcantthinkofaname4800 2 года назад +14

      That's because it's just a variation on the RAR tech

    • @stephaniecurry45
      @stephaniecurry45 2 года назад

      @@rosewendigo7748 same, I literally only used it for Roy’s jair lmao

    • @sirsamo4232
      @sirsamo4232 2 года назад +2

      I figured this out when i was learning peach gf backair spam lol

    • @queven6355
      @queven6355 2 года назад

      @@sirsamo4232 I been doing this input since Brawl.
      This was a tech in Brawl. Movements absolutely sucked in that game so when we found out you can just run forward hit diagonal back and jump to quickly turn around that was like the extent of advanced techs in that game 😂
      But yes peach is a great example in which this input was already being done prior to its discovery.
      I’m honestly surprised people didn’t find it out when RARing was discovered

  • @skaleee1207
    @skaleee1207 2 года назад +2388

    9:30 Inputs
    11:03 Flickshot
    13:20 Holdshot
    14:10 Fullshot

  • @Captain_Bobvious
    @Captain_Bobvious 2 года назад +647

    Seeing gluto's reaction to leo saying "I can spam nair more!" Is priceless

    • @eyyy2271
      @eyyy2271 2 года назад +40

      4:46 lmao

    • @RedMooseJesus
      @RedMooseJesus 2 года назад

      Yes!! I was thinking the exact same thing

    • @phtm_151
      @phtm_151 2 года назад +14

      I think Gluto was already doing that tech with Wario nair, he doesn't seems really surprised

  • @jam4986
    @jam4986 2 года назад +1216

    this was fucking sick. gimr was not exaggerating at all when he said it’s meta changing. absolutely legendary

    • @reidgarcelon9746
      @reidgarcelon9746 2 года назад +55

      @Sauce I feel like gimr did a really good job expanding on it though, and obviously it impressed the pros so at least some of it is new

    • @arturintete2461
      @arturintete2461 2 года назад +107

      @Sauce POV: rando NPCS think they know more than people who dedicate their lives to this game

    • @grah55
      @grah55 2 года назад +2

      @Sauce I saw this so long ago and I don't even play Ultimate.

    • @ayoraster2970
      @ayoraster2970 2 года назад +42

      @Sauce While many of the details might have been known, the applications shown in this video are entirely new. There's a reason pros never did movement that looked like that before now.

    • @net-neutral
      @net-neutral 2 года назад +16

      @Sauce Don't worry dude ur completely right. Nothing about this is meta changing. These noob viewers get overhyped cuz of Gimr's exaggerated presentation style, and will get mad at anyone who tries to undercut it. Once they actually try it out in matches, they'll see very little change in gameplay and results.

  • @tatewaki11
    @tatewaki11 2 года назад +364

    09:32 Timestamp for the start of the explanation
    10:58 Flickshot
    13:19 Holdshot
    14:11 Fullshot

  • @gormVOD
    @gormVOD 2 года назад +141

    11:00 how to flickshot
    12:22 flickshot drift away
    12:38 flickshot drift in
    12:52 tips on failures
    13:20 how to holdshot
    14:15 how to fullshot
    15:05 buffer system

  • @seven3197
    @seven3197 2 года назад +2707

    To the people wondering about patches. This is an emergent tech, which means they would have to tweak the whole base mechanics if they wanted to get rid of it. It would be a whole mess and if they in fact removed it many other things would be affected

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад +222

      I don't see anything broken there, they're obviously not patching this lmao

    • @cancrusherify
      @cancrusherify 2 года назад +131

      @@ABC-ik9vj yeah, this doesn't affect the enjoyment of casual players.

    • @MikeyProHD
      @MikeyProHD 2 года назад +72

      13.0.1 is the last update for Ultimate anyway, so idk why people think that this'll change.

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад +10

      @@cancrusherify maybe if they find something else on a character but yeah

    • @tastyfalcon1788
      @tastyfalcon1788 2 года назад +18

      Also the game isn't getting balance patches anymore so...

  • @neki_7258
    @neki_7258 2 года назад +741

    In the trailer, at 1:53 he does the tech in real life, at 1:11 he uses slingshot on a shield because it is a tech mainly experimented on shield pressure

    • @freshplayz2709
      @freshplayz2709 2 года назад +42

      THATS SO SMART

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +15

      Omg u right wtf

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +30

      And the poster with the black circle is the shield bubble. Well supposedly representing the shield bubble and when he rips it up thats how u know it will be good shield pressure

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +2

      His leg tho rip foot

    • @iofiwifi
      @iofiwifi 2 года назад +22

      @@allen2reckless676 it represents the footstool vfx for phantom footstooling

  • @jaceface1173
    @jaceface1173 2 года назад +501

    RIP VGBC Mom, that was a sweet dedication

    • @Rizzy_K
      @Rizzy_K 2 года назад +64

      Not enough comments like this. I realize it’s a video game channel, but let’s not forget the content creator has a real life outside of video games. Rip VGBCM.

    • @chanlaman2565
      @chanlaman2565 2 года назад +19

      Yeah, it was. She’s beautiful and it sounds like she was and still is loved very much. In my view, mothers are what keep the world spinning. There’s nothing better than a mother’s unconditional love and support

    • @Rizzy_K
      @Rizzy_K 2 года назад +9

      @@chanlaman2565 true man. You only get one mother(biologically speaking).

    • @PhantomAkira5
      @PhantomAkira5 2 года назад +4

      I accidentally disliked this comment even tho I meant to like it :(. You get my like back

    • @Naminegir
      @Naminegir 2 года назад +11

      Surprised I had to scroll this far to find a comment like this, but may VGBC mom rest well 💙

  • @Hyurno
    @Hyurno 2 года назад +747

    Ness can get so many more easy kill options with back air now omg

    • @Andmau2552
      @Andmau2552 2 года назад +4

      Also prob a cross-up tomahawk grab to back throw

    • @bluyu
      @bluyu 2 года назад +1

      It also just makes rising bair safer. I'm just shocked at the idea that Ness players didn't already know this tech. Lucas players have been doing it for years lol

    • @Nokyyyyy
      @Nokyyyyy 2 года назад +18

      He can do pk fire even more safer now

    • @lucawendel7644
      @lucawendel7644 2 года назад +1

      i saw someone truecombo pk fire 3x into dair spike... lets hope you can di out of it

    • @BlueboySSB
      @BlueboySSB 2 года назад

      and nair

  • @illusionaryheart3325
    @illusionaryheart3325 2 года назад +402

    Honestly, even if it isn’t as impactful as wavedashing from melee, this looks like it’ll provide some insane options for Ultimate!

    • @peter42466
      @peter42466 2 года назад +22

      I mean it won’t be as impactful as wavedashing but it could very well be put into the new smash but with melee physics mods and be a very cool feature

    • @IAm-zo1bo
      @IAm-zo1bo 2 года назад +3

      @@peter42466 you say that as if we're certain about a new smash game

    • @ClimbingKeen
      @ClimbingKeen 2 года назад +1

      Ultimate players won’t even use this. You guys don’t use new tech lol

    • @Deadflower20xx
      @Deadflower20xx 2 года назад +13

      @@IAm-zo1bo Stupid to think there won't be lol. Sakurai said he was done after Brawl btw. Here we are at Smash 5... Plus, Nintendo as a corporation owns Smash. Ultimate is literally the highest selling fighting game of all time. They're making a new one with or without Sakurai, it's not up to him.

    • @illusionaryheart3325
      @illusionaryheart3325 2 года назад

      @@ClimbingKeen Already seen people using it…

  • @GawainSSB
    @GawainSSB 2 года назад +450

    This sounds really promising for dealing with Falcons horrendous backdash. Cant wait to try this out

    • @aaronhaynes8278
      @aaronhaynes8278 2 года назад +24

      Thinking the same thing. Can't wait to see what fatality and other falcons come up with this.

    • @NonJohns
      @NonJohns 2 года назад +1

      Gawain!
      So glad you're still around
      Love your content

    • @enviableace9987
      @enviableace9987 2 года назад +1

      Thought the same

    • @sareaper69
      @sareaper69 2 года назад +1

      I am glad you are alive

    • @Mekwek
      @Mekwek 2 года назад +1

      Oh no

  • @Dragoon803
    @Dragoon803 2 года назад +622

    I can't wait to see Fatallity and Larry Lur get a hold of this.

    • @gottabepablo
      @gottabepablo 2 года назад +15

      And Sean

    • @brezilianpope
      @brezilianpope 2 года назад +36

      Daddy fatalityyyy Imagine the best falcon mastering the flickshot

    • @jackturner691
      @jackturner691 2 года назад +31

      Tweek's Diddy pressure gonna be insane

    • @brezilianpope
      @brezilianpope 2 года назад +10

      @@jackturner691 This combined with the banana is gonna be crazy

    • @ColeDoesWhat
      @ColeDoesWhat 2 года назад +1

      Larry with this tech… whoa

  • @Goat-on-a-Stick
    @Goat-on-a-Stick 2 года назад +132

    This is crazy! It's impressive you've found something this game changing so late into the game's life!

    • @laserbeamlightning
      @laserbeamlightning 2 года назад +15

      Late? There's not going to be anything else for a while so this'll apply for years!

    • @stinkyballsmeller
      @stinkyballsmeller 2 года назад +13

      This game came out only four years ago, for a mainstream fighter with lots of attention I wouldn't consider it "late" into it's lifespan lol

    • @silvesta5027
      @silvesta5027 2 года назад +2

      Just think about melee’s progression 😵‍💫 That was years and years in…although I guess the circumstances are different, considering how deep the mechanics are in that game

    • @jojivlogs_4255
      @jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад

      @@stinkyballsmeller considering most fighting games have a 5 year competitive lifespan it kinda is

    • @jojivlogs_4255
      @jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад

      @@silvesta5027 the most similar mechanic melee has to the slingshot is wavedashing, and sakurai figured that out during development. the community figured it out like 2 months after release. a lot of the fundamental melee tech was discovered quite early on

  • @migweegwee2824
    @migweegwee2824 2 года назад +40

    This tech is something that makes me really want to get back to labbing characters again. This time it'll be through a new lens of potential. Certain characters with bad spacing or OOS options could benefit immensely with this. Thank you for sharing this, you deserve a good rest and cake.

  • @PlayMeARecord
    @PlayMeARecord 2 года назад +729

    Respect to Gmir for he always looks for new ways to help us in the game. The slingshot makes that can help us get closer to melee in terms of movements. Much love man

    • @Escobamos
      @Escobamos 2 года назад +9

      (Thick Russian Accent) "I love Gmir. He is my favorite player."

    • @PlayMeARecord
      @PlayMeARecord 2 года назад +3

      @@Escobamos (Jersey Accent) Agreed

    • @puru7976
      @puru7976 2 года назад +10

      you ultimate SCRUBS will never approach the GREATNESS of melee

    • @raphaelrose3001
      @raphaelrose3001 2 года назад +10

      @@puru7976 stink

    • @sondheimravel
      @sondheimravel 2 года назад

      How is making ultimate closer to melee good for anyone but melee players

  • @KakinTseGamePlayer
    @KakinTseGamePlayer 2 года назад +174

    Everyone: Sling Shot
    Ridley: Run Up Dthrow Usmash

    • @adanmota8340
      @adanmota8340 2 года назад

      Yes

    • @michaelcross7665
      @michaelcross7665 2 года назад +5

      I got real confused and had to rewatch what happened cuz I wasn't expecting that. If that is somehow consistent enough you can land it at kill% then it's huge for ridley, but I kinda doubt it in which chase dthrow to fair is probably still the better option

    • @KakinTseGamePlayer
      @KakinTseGamePlayer 2 года назад +2

      @@michaelcross7665 im pretty sure that only works at 0% but not kill percent. It seems unoptimal unless it does more damage than fair but I dont play ridley so I wouldnt know

    • @michaelcross7665
      @michaelcross7665 2 года назад

      Yeah I didn't watch the video far enough he even says later that it probably doesn't even matter haha

  • @m_arto
    @m_arto 2 года назад +103

    I want to see Ice Climbers twitter combos implementing these. Like, holdshot with down b seems legit broken. You just pushed back the IC's mains 12 years into reaching 25% of perfection

    • @andersolson44
      @andersolson44 2 года назад +7

      ICs are super affected by this, now that I think about it, bc their max air drift is good, but the time it takes for them to get up there is slow, AND they’ve got their desyncs for another layer for them.

    • @Succer
      @Succer 2 года назад

      Oh god I think you might be right. It could probably extend desync combos by letting you follow up farther away.

  • @SMOG8
    @SMOG8 2 года назад +143

    I would like to see someone do a video on what slingshot means to each character. Something like that would give people more insight to how good this is and I won’t have to figure it out myself.

    • @terpsidance.
      @terpsidance. 2 года назад +4

      There's at least one pro or semi-pro for every character and I imagine all of them are gonna do their own video on this.

  • @nobodygoodfr9556
    @nobodygoodfr9556 2 года назад +98

    Smash players: "Command inputs are too difficult."
    Also Smash players: *basically doing a pretzel motion over and over*
    Never change, Smash community.

    • @BBB-pe3ip
      @BBB-pe3ip 2 года назад +4

      Does that include Melee players? Because they love discovering new command inputs. The slingshot command input is similar to moonwalking.

    • @jojivlogs_4255
      @jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад +1

      @@BBB-pe3ip neither the slingshot or moonwalk are command inputs

    • @jojivlogs_4255
      @jojivlogs_4255 2 года назад +12

      i dont think a single smash player thinks command inputs are too difficult. however ive seen a lot of fgc people quit melee because they could hardly l cancel lmao

    • @nobodygoodfr9556
      @nobodygoodfr9556 2 года назад +7

      @@jojivlogs_4255 I saw a lot of people complaining about command inputs when Terry was added. Obviously there weren’t many professional players complaining, but definitely a lot of more casual players did cause they were “unfair”

    • @dj_koen1265
      @dj_koen1265 2 года назад

      Smash players have consistently complained about command inputs because they were too hard and gatekeeping and whatever
      So it is ironic

  • @1up2275
    @1up2275 2 года назад +537

    Lemme just say that I'm a longtime Lucas main and when I heard him say that Lucas had some of the most versatile uses of this tech... 😩😩😩

    • @johnfahey8590
      @johnfahey8590 2 года назад +34

      BRO IK SAME. When i saw him fair shield slingshot and then djc zair 🥴🥴😩

    • @dlan1130
      @dlan1130 2 года назад +11

      Same here! It’s a great day to be a Lucas main.

    • @iminumst7827
      @iminumst7827 2 года назад +9

      same, i quit smash but I might come back if Lucas getting some fresh to tech

    • @quinnthomas1007
      @quinnthomas1007 2 года назад +1

      @@iminumst7827 same

    • @goahdejen6176
      @goahdejen6176 2 года назад +13

      bro rope snake is now unpunishable oh my god u could outspace like 70% of the cast

  • @SnessFresh
    @SnessFresh 2 года назад +1002

    The best part is this tech is easy to do. It took me 2 seconds to get it semi consistent. Im honestly shocked this wasnt discovered before.

    • @Substantial-hf1rm
      @Substantial-hf1rm 2 года назад +191

      Inb4 lil Timmy pulls up saying he's been doing this since day one.

    • @kevinhirschowitz8550
      @kevinhirschowitz8550 2 года назад +96

      it probs was found b4, but gimr pushed it and popularized fs, gimzdashing

    • @harryvpn1462
      @harryvpn1462 2 года назад +64

      Some pleople say they already knew about this, so theres a possible chance this was some under hidden discord tech

    • @nicolasepicness937
      @nicolasepicness937 2 года назад +80

      Lavish tweeted he's been doing it since 2018 with proof lol

    • @kenmu_
      @kenmu_ 2 года назад +33

      Glutonny tweeted hes been doing the tech too

  • @yannickjanssen4307
    @yannickjanssen4307 2 года назад +417

    So Marth might be kinda scary now, he has a good fast spacing option

    • @brezilianpope
      @brezilianpope 2 года назад +39

      The potential is real

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 2 года назад +31

      Eh... it's marth

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +9

      Lmao no more slow side b movement lets go

    • @tumultoustortellini
      @tumultoustortellini 2 года назад +22

      absolutely. You can pester people with a consistently tipper fair, nair or bair now and faster speeds than ever before. I think holdshot tomohawk also could make marcina in general a lot scarier

    • @Spyder-Marth
      @Spyder-Marth 2 года назад +15

      MARTH SLINGSHOT NAIR INTO STUTTER STEP F-SMASH HAHAHAHA

  • @Turbopasta
    @Turbopasta 2 года назад +27

    I'm so thankful for how in-depth this guide/discovery is, this video really needs to be the go-to template for anything tech related in smash. Even when looking for basic stuff like how to do a rar, it can be hard to know why you screwed it up, or why a certain input is coming out. I can tell you worked your ass off to make this as comprehensive as possible and I just want to thank you for your efforts.
    Most people don't know this, but I was actually the person who discovered the pac-man doubles infinite ladder strategy in Smash 4 (the video is on my channel for anyone curious), I remember feeling amazing when people payed attention to the discovery and started telling people about it. Etika (RIP) even shared my video with people and it caught on like wildfire after that. Word spread quickly, and before long I was meeting people locally who played Smash who knew about this tech and they were surprised to learn that I was the one who made it. Very cool feeling, I'm glad I was able to contribute to Smash in some small way.
    Looking forward to seeing this out in the wild, thanks for the tech and for the content.

  • @infinityheart_tm9270
    @infinityheart_tm9270 2 года назад +61

    Is it just some rule that whenever there’s a movement tech in a smash game, Lucas is just really really good with it.

  • @LuigiLonLon
    @LuigiLonLon 2 года назад +94

    4:46 You can see the exact frame where Glutto is processing what Leo said and realizing the meaning of it

  • @doctordice2doctordice210
    @doctordice2doctordice210 2 года назад +57

    Im as hyped about this as i am skeptical.
    I hope your mom is resting in peace bro, your love of this game is so blatantly shown here and I genuinely thank you ♥️

  • @BREADSWORD
    @BREADSWORD 2 года назад +779

    bro really changed the whole game

    • @rad6946.
      @rad6946. 2 года назад +5

      fr

    • @net-neutral
      @net-neutral 2 года назад +7

      right now try it out online and see how much has really changed

    • @BIGAMBERFAN
      @BIGAMBERFAN 2 года назад +39

      @@net-neutral of course it’s not gonna change the game online doofus

    • @jonashworth9757
      @jonashworth9757 2 года назад +1

      @@BIGAMBERFAN
      Well, I won’t be able to utilize this. So I know my friends won’t be able to. No way this changes anything for us.

    • @gj4312
      @gj4312 2 года назад +10

      @@BIGAMBERFAN it looks easy so yeah I think it will be done online. If you think this is too much for online then you must not know what it's like to play some characters online. Some already have to do stuff way harder than this online.

  • @redpandaplush5980
    @redpandaplush5980 2 года назад +36

    Every character showcased I thought "that's terrifying." And I'm sure many more not shown will be too. Well done!

  • @Gold0rion
    @Gold0rion 2 года назад +14

    Just been trying out the slingshot some in the training room after rewatching this for about the fourth time now and I just wanna say thank you for all the effort you put into discovering this tech and the amount of work you did for this video presentation too. I'm sure I'm not the only one, but thank you immensely for being a wonderful part of the smash community GimR

    • @farlaff
      @farlaff 2 года назад

      How would this work with a Pro Controller? Is it even possible to use this effectively without the GC con? (I actually just asked this in MKLeo's channel moments ago lol, so hope somebody can help on that.)

  • @lukelacher1802
    @lukelacher1802 2 года назад +82

    Can we all just appreciate the animators who worked on the Gimvitational announcement at the end

  • @enviableace9987
    @enviableace9987 2 года назад +274

    Hope this mean people will practice slingshots instead wavelands now in between stocks

  • @Luigikid
    @Luigikid 2 года назад +49

    Thanks to your lovely mother for giving birth to a legend ❤️

    • @FZone96
      @FZone96 2 года назад

      I never heard of GimR until now but he seems awesome.

    • @wrath5420
      @wrath5420 2 года назад

      @@FZone96 he totally is, he is possibly the man who created the most smash ultimate tech of any person

  • @awaspow
    @awaspow 2 года назад +2

    16 ON TRENDING CONGRATS GIMR
    ONE OF THE BIGGEST SMASH VIDEOS UR DOING SO WELL SO HAPPY FOR YOU

  • @bobyjoetown
    @bobyjoetown 2 года назад +5

    19:35 really put into perspective how much crazier this is than I thought

  • @djdrizzy9139
    @djdrizzy9139 2 года назад +844

    Can't wait to see how Kirby can use this tech. I'm surprised that Mythra wasn't shown.

    • @sensey181
      @sensey181 2 года назад +25

      KIRBYYYYY

    • @Juggleboy
      @Juggleboy 2 года назад +121

      👀

    • @sensey181
      @sensey181 2 года назад +21

      @@Juggleboy Can't wait to see what you will provide us regarding this tech

    • @konflicted1729
      @konflicted1729 2 года назад +1

      @@Juggleboy hey I'm sub to you we need a new video

    • @PMT433
      @PMT433 2 года назад +1

      Ikr

  • @brezilianpope
    @brezilianpope 2 года назад +100

    I'd be curious to see a Marth using this to space the tippers

    • @WhoIsRah
      @WhoIsRah 2 года назад +26

      yep i think this is going to bring marth up to proper placement. i just need to see what he can do

    • @hugodecroix294
      @hugodecroix294 2 года назад +4

      Leo about to bring him back

    • @THGnat
      @THGnat 2 года назад +2

      There is a small video of leo trying it somewhere.

    • @brezilianpope
      @brezilianpope 2 года назад

      @@THGnat yes I saw it, nothing too crazy for now but im a believer

  • @gjgaming2133
    @gjgaming2133 2 года назад +29

    May she rest in peace. Shed be proud man

  • @nidhogggu8800
    @nidhogggu8800 2 года назад +1

    Condolences to you for your mom. Hope you guys find her in the spirit of the best things in life

  • @phxhero
    @phxhero 2 года назад +3

    This looks like an adapted smash version of sfv shimmy with corner pressure slowly becoming the meta this will be dirty

  • @gintuner4371
    @gintuner4371 2 года назад +136

    My condolences GimR. It must be one of the hardest things to go through.

  • @haruwolf2600
    @haruwolf2600 2 года назад +117

    The movement inputs is something that needed to do Displacement Phantom with Zelda, but much less lenient to do, certainly it's an awesome thing!

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад

      Wait does it work. Will we finally have phantom knoght infront of zelda facing forward

    • @AricinGrey
      @AricinGrey 2 года назад +1

      I tried learning how to do that phantom displace for so long, I never fully got it. But this definitely feels similar to that concept, just a little easier.

    • @Jackaljkljkl
      @Jackaljkljkl 2 года назад +1

      @@AricinGrey That tech defeated me too.
      I notice that a lot if top Zelda players don't even use it.

    • @AricinGrey
      @AricinGrey 2 года назад

      @@Jackaljkljkl it seems good, but unless you can do it consistently I don't see getting much use out of it.

  • @illegalmemedealer3549
    @illegalmemedealer3549 2 года назад +204

    And if everyone’s safe on shield…
    *laughs* No one will be.

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад

      Idk about this one cuz cap gamon lucina and anyone with up b out of shield that moves sideways and comes out really fast but then they are open maybe idk

    • @thelittlestseal
      @thelittlestseal 2 года назад +4

      @@allen2reckless676 there's a reason he mostly showed it with shield grab and not gnw up b I think

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +1

      @@thelittlestseal well yeah im just saying its punishable with out of shield up b. Especially with those that got horizontal movement with up b

    • @sachaboudoux8046
      @sachaboudoux8046 2 года назад

      That is an *Incredible* Reference too 😎

    • @illegalmemedealer3549
      @illegalmemedealer3549 2 года назад

      @@allen2reckless676 they need a lot of sideways movement, and it looks like the attacker still has options for stuffing out that punish depending on who it is, so while up b out of shield may still be good, it’s only good on far less characters now. For instance, Cloud up-b suffers massively, as may the oppressive GnW up-b, but the likes of Bowser are likely less affected

  • @drantino
    @drantino 2 года назад

    this is definintly a tech people have known about and definintly not used much, i personally can think of doing a air hop away reverse arrow on link is the most common ive done.
    but this video definintly goes into depth on how and why its a thing and is solid

  • @Pysnpai
    @Pysnpai 2 года назад +1

    Sorry for your loss, dude. May you mother Rest In Peace. Thanks for the tech

  • @Eman02kG
    @Eman02kG 2 года назад +124

    9:37 Basic inputs
    11:04 Flickshot
    13:29 Holdshot
    14:15 Fullshot

  • @dangangalaxy9759
    @dangangalaxy9759 2 года назад +63

    THIS IS GONNA MAKE HITTING JOKER’S FAIR 1 KILL CONFIRM SO MUCH EASIER TO HIT IN NEUTRAL THANK YOU SO MUCH

    • @dygo-
      @dygo- 2 года назад +3

      my exact thought

    • @33Pokenerd
      @33Pokenerd 2 года назад +1

      this is gonna make roy jab bair with full hop so much easier too lmao

    • @dangangalaxy9759
      @dangangalaxy9759 2 года назад

      @@33Pokenerd This is genuinely the best tech I could have asked for, instant bairs just in general are so freaking hard for me but they're the #1 thing I wish I could do consistently that I just haven't been able to. This really does change the game

  • @radiaz121
    @radiaz121 2 года назад +250

    I've never seen anything like this. The way the characters move is so interesting and could definitely be game changing

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +7

      Its the equivalent to wave dashing in melee in all honesty just instead of landing its the opposite lmao. Which holds true that this game is the opposite of melee

  • @MariotheAnimator
    @MariotheAnimator 2 года назад +14

    Yoshi has the fastest air speed in the game, this makes me happy. Mainly loving approaching BAir and baiting a reverse-neutral B. Slingshot is really good for most characters that have a meaty BAir and multi-hit FAir (or vice versa) because it essentially let's you both retreat or approach with either one.

  • @TigerKwan
    @TigerKwan 2 года назад +1

    I love this kind of stuff. As someone who took a break from smash due to school seeing people learn about phantom footstools, IDJ, and now this honestly makes me wanna return to the game and lab it out.

  • @Xmark3000
    @Xmark3000 2 года назад +55

    Just from the first 30 seconds of the video I had to give a like.
    VGBC Mom did a great job of raising you y'all to be kind people, rest in peace.

  • @RiposteBK
    @RiposteBK 2 года назад +63

    I imagine Yoshi will get a tonne of mileage out of this, between egg throw/lay and neutrals... and if he messes up, he double jumps away for free
    cant wait for *multi-fair drifting*

    • @TheLastMelon92
      @TheLastMelon92 2 года назад +1

      I used to do a similar movement with yoshi in smash 4 with fair.

  • @Dr.D.R.
    @Dr.D.R. 2 года назад +24

    May Gloria Rest in Peace.

  • @Gabio
    @Gabio 2 года назад +25

    It was predictable but obvious, the slingshot wasn't going to really change the meta. It's just one of those techs, even if tis one is more complex and useful. The lab can create and elaborate things for the world. But not change the world. This is the same thing for the slingshot.

    • @sneekypops
      @sneekypops Год назад

      But if you replace/add different planks and decorations to the ship is it the same ship, etc.

  • @fogijay
    @fogijay 2 года назад +6

    0:00 Intro + Trailer
    3:15 Pros’ reaction
    9:20 How to do it
    26:40 Announcement

  • @ny9443
    @ny9443 2 года назад +93

    As an inkling main, I can see approaching/pressuring someone with back air so much more consistent. Ty gimr

    • @feltonthecat475
      @feltonthecat475 2 года назад

      Heck yeah, I think Inkling could benefit massively from this!

    • @ashtoncooper5478
      @ashtoncooper5478 2 года назад

      @@feltonthecat475 yeah!

  • @awxii_
    @awxii_ 2 года назад +212

    Does this mean Pikachu's aerials are +100 on shield now?

    • @Daylen151
      @Daylen151 2 года назад +7

      oh uh

    • @iamawin8272
      @iamawin8272 2 года назад +51

      broken characters will become more broken but all the other characters will become better as well so it probably won’t change the tierlist too much other than a few outliers.

    • @sebastian11037
      @sebastian11037 2 года назад +21

      @@iamawin8272 Rob cant do it lol

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад +3

      @@iamawin8272 there's not a broken character

    • @stupidw33b52
      @stupidw33b52 2 года назад +36

      @@iamawin8272 i disagree, characters with great air speed/drift specifically will move up more than the rest

  • @bowmain1577
    @bowmain1577 2 года назад +227

    Might be the biggest tech discovery since Wavedashing! Just gotta hope it never gets patched out!

    • @deester7914
      @deester7914 2 года назад +54

      it probably wont since ultimate is done with patches

    • @QwertYuiop-yt3uh
      @QwertYuiop-yt3uh 2 года назад +58

      Even if ultimate wasn't done with patches, this wouldn't make sense to get patched out. It's not some infinite nor is it a glitch that negatively affects the game. It's fundamentally quite simple and really just provides a great movement option by combining basic mechanics together

    • @llunadere1868
      @llunadere1868 2 года назад +47

      Patching this out would mean they’d have to change the way the game works fundamentally and they aren’t gonna do that

    • @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia
      @ImmaFarmerInMalaysia 2 года назад +3

      Patches have been done for a long time now

    • @stego-
      @stego- 2 года назад +2

      *and phantom footstooling

  • @patrickburke2187
    @patrickburke2187 2 года назад +3

    This is crazy for Lucario.
    Crazy air speed, pair’ed with wavebounce neutral b, and a fair that can be thrown out twice from shorthop.
    Hopefully people make something out of it

  • @JonRobTom
    @JonRobTom 2 года назад +5

    I could imagine how many new movement options and combos are gonna be when Instant Double Jump is applied with the Slingshot variants.

  • @vnusfmtv
    @vnusfmtv 2 года назад +25

    I’m in training rn labbing this the input is actually so quick
    This puts an extra layer into the game I can only do it on halfspeed so far (slowed down) this will make ultimate so much more advanced

  • @TsukumoYatsuhashi
    @TsukumoYatsuhashi 2 года назад +193

    Pit's aerials were never very safe, so I hope this is huge for him.

    • @ABC-ik9vj
      @ABC-ik9vj 2 года назад

      Pit air speed is trash

    • @dmitrimatthews7898
      @dmitrimatthews7898 2 года назад +94

      @@ABC-ik9vj Yeah, but so is Ganondorf’s and as you could see, it seemed to benefit him.

    • @mphmiles
      @mphmiles 2 года назад +30

      His nair is -6, Fair -9 with the range it has, dair is -8, bair is -3. They're pretty good.

    • @TsukumoYatsuhashi
      @TsukumoYatsuhashi 2 года назад

      But I suppose this would help his landing lag, which was what I was thinking of? There's 8-14 frickin frames of l. lag on each aerial.

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 2 года назад

      @@ABC-ik9vj Well he can still use it for like a [bair -> slingshot -> arrow] which doesn't care about his air speed.

  • @ikaros6633
    @ikaros6633 2 года назад +8

    This really changes the meta, matches will look smoother but spacing marth's sword will be easier and as a Mario main I actually have good ways to get in on a cloud or Samus did might be up b out shield Happy.

  • @wyattalexander4041
    @wyattalexander4041 2 года назад +4

    I’m so impressed with this whole out of content… I can see how much time you spent on this. And the special announcement at the end I’m so excited for this all sounds so awesome I’m hype !!!

  • @Daylen151
    @Daylen151 2 года назад +21

    sakurai pops in tomorrow: "yea this was intentional. not a bug it's a feature"

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 2 года назад +1

      wavedash was intentional though lol some kids wrote about it in like 2003 and he confirmed it, or so he says 🤔

    • @Daylen151
      @Daylen151 2 года назад

      @@chrisbeach423 yea so he says. some people discover some weird tech (not just talking about wavedashing. same goes for stuff like L cancelling) and sakurai just pops in an claims it to be a feature. riddle me this batman if it's a feature why was it nowhere mentioned or kept in newer titles? they did realize it in development but didn't bother removing it and just forgot about it. it wasn't intentional.

    • @funnygamer.692
      @funnygamer.692 2 года назад +2

      @@Daylen151 it's not exactly intentional. Sakurai and his team found out about it while in development. It's more like a consequence of melee's physics more than anything. As for L cancelling, it's a feature originated from smash 64 probably meant to help players land into shield after an aerial easier. Hope this helps👍

    • @vampsheeVAs
      @vampsheeVAs 2 года назад

      ya literally no

  • @lowtech42
    @lowtech42 2 года назад +5

    Aww 🥺 RIP M(r)s. Petrucci!! 🙏🏿 You did great work with this technique

    • @Rizzy_K
      @Rizzy_K 2 года назад +3

      What’s the (r) mean?

    • @lowtech42
      @lowtech42 2 года назад +2

      @@Rizzy_K I put it because I didn't know if she was Mrs or Ms and didn't want to be disrespectful!

    • @Rizzy_K
      @Rizzy_K 2 года назад +2

      @@lowtech42 ohh okay makes sense

  • @iminumst7827
    @iminumst7827 2 года назад +23

    I haven't touched smash in a while, but Lucas was my main so seeing him being one of the most to benefit from this tech I might get back into smash if Nintendo doesn't patch it.

    • @LinkMaster5555
      @LinkMaster5555 2 года назад +1

      patches are done ✅

    • @Viovel
      @Viovel 2 года назад

      This isn't a glitch so why'd they even want to patch it? They'd have to change so many base mehanics.

    • @dotz172
      @dotz172 2 года назад

      @@syntax2679 no he's not nintendo said the last update would be the final one

    • @LinkMaster5555
      @LinkMaster5555 2 года назад

      @@syntax2679 final patch troll

  • @AwesomeMooseSmile
    @AwesomeMooseSmile 2 года назад

    Honestly this will probably be great for gunner because their tech mobility is surprisingly good, and fair can add super complex movement, as well as make the already massive bair even more safe.

  • @TheSweetSpirit
    @TheSweetSpirit 2 года назад +1

    The intro was obnoxious, but 4:04 was perfect and amazing. Mario going 'yeehoo' right before Void goes ;o with the music was hilarious. And also the video's content is cool too.

  • @angrynoodle161
    @angrynoodle161 2 года назад +117

    I’m wondering about the implications of this in terms of shield breaks. Is it feasible for a puff to get 2 pounds on shield without being punished? Idk this feels meta changing.

    • @cise3895
      @cise3895 2 года назад +42

      Stopped playing ult a while ago, so take this with a grain of salt. This tech is all about aerial momentum, but pound kills or severely slows your momentum when you use it, so it probably doesn’t directly benefit from this. Instead, everyone (including Puff) will be much better at shrinking shields with their aerials, which could open up the threat of breaking the weakened shield with just one pound.

    • @angrynoodle161
      @angrynoodle161 2 года назад +4

      @@cise3895 Right. That makes more sense. As well as just being a movement option in neutral.

    • @soulvynthis334
      @soulvynthis334 2 года назад +14

      Puff can get up tilt into pound for a shield break with this

    • @angrynoodle161
      @angrynoodle161 2 года назад +1

      @@soulvynthis334 I just saw that video!! I feel validated now lol.

    • @Professor_Wisteria_
      @Professor_Wisteria_ 2 года назад +1

      No, but puff has always just barely been able to do u-tilt into pound and that breaks, so with slingshots puff can DEFINITELY punish oos with pounds that will be near unpunishable

  • @lesjumeauxsoudesnsl1357
    @lesjumeauxsoudesnsl1357 2 года назад +50

    Omg the potential of peach with this tech is insane

    • @logandunlap9156
      @logandunlap9156 2 года назад +1

      grounded hover can already do this though, no?

    • @fryenchill2817
      @fryenchill2817 2 года назад +4

      @@logandunlap9156 Yeah, but now it is way more consistent, which means you'll actually see peach mains pull it off in bracket

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 2 года назад

      Peach is ultimate's melee fox imo

    • @ltsJoeMama
      @ltsJoeMama 2 года назад

      @@Tonjit41 lol no

    • @lukerose4166
      @lukerose4166 2 года назад

      @@Tonjit41 Peach is ultimates melee peach. They play pretty similar all things considered

  • @alexevaldez
    @alexevaldez 2 года назад +74

    Itll remind me of DBFZ if this really is effective. Like how moonjump/buffered dash super jump on DBFZ changed the gameplan on certain matchups. Not necessary but its very optimal as an answer for certain situations.

    • @luckymanx2978
      @luckymanx2978 2 года назад +3

      Exactly what I was thinking!!!

    • @konflicted1729
      @konflicted1729 2 года назад

      Took the words right out of my mouth

    • @ssbplayer8117
      @ssbplayer8117 2 года назад

      excuse me but what are you talking about ? and why dragon ball fighter z?

    • @ssbplayer8117
      @ssbplayer8117 2 года назад

      @@PunkySlush like wavedash or b reverse ?

    • @EllaEllaAudios
      @EllaEllaAudios 2 года назад +17

      @@ssbplayer8117 The smash player's brain explodes as soon as you bring up an example from a fighting game

  • @iggelitoGamingHD
    @iggelitoGamingHD 2 года назад +7

    More than anything as someone who mainly just plays and watch melee this makes ultimate look much more fun! :)

  • @verytallowl2022
    @verytallowl2022 2 года назад

    That introduction was fucking incredible. Well shot, creative, the works

  • @Cygis
    @Cygis 2 года назад +189

    I’m surprised you didn’t show Yoshi since he has the fastest air speed. It’ll be very cool to see the fastest slingshot

    • @Tonjit41
      @Tonjit41 2 года назад +8

      Ewwwwww!

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +30

      Oop was a mistake announcing your a yoshi player. Honestly tho cant wait to see what ill have to deal with against yoshi players

    • @SydneySininen
      @SydneySininen 2 года назад +4

      Oh my god that's gonna be horrifying

    • @lududelubin3011
      @lududelubin3011 2 года назад +3

      Don't forget Limit Cloud, Hero w/ Acceleratle active or Speed Art Shulk

    • @thingamagiga2
      @thingamagiga2 2 года назад +1

      @@lududelubin3011 oh yeah can't wait to be limit slingshot back air ledgetrapped by cloud. Jeeze

  • @ChristochatBTW
    @ChristochatBTW 2 года назад +27

    The shield pressure with this is gonna be crazy oh my gosh

  • @rexxtheawsome
    @rexxtheawsome 2 года назад +19

    Defeat and anxiety are only temporary...
    The gimz always wins

  • @handmetheparachute
    @handmetheparachute 2 года назад +1

    Sakurai: Well, looks like it's back to the lab with me. Time to make the spiritual successor to Brawl.

  • @reesegraham3743
    @reesegraham3743 2 года назад

    Watching this at work on break and mad I can't finish it until later. Excited to try this stuff out!

  • @Kingreed69420
    @Kingreed69420 2 года назад +61

    Skip to 5:29 for the explanation, 9:33 for the input

  • @Robin-he6qz
    @Robin-he6qz 2 года назад +8

    Gimr, I just want to say thank you for all that you do, I'm unfortunately unfamiliar with the work you do most of the time, like with vgboot camp, but I found out about you through your videos, and I appreciate it very much, I also appreciate vgboot camp. I hope that you aren't working too hard, and hope that you are doing well in general and I wish you the best, and thank you again for your content and contribution to the community in general. Lots of love.

  • @Boltizar49
    @Boltizar49 2 года назад +98

    Slower moves like Blade Beam might be decent against this. Something like that might punish the drift in version.

    • @CaptainDCap
      @CaptainDCap 2 года назад

      lmao imagine reading this shit with a warlock punch

  • @Super_Smash_Dude
    @Super_Smash_Dude 2 года назад +4

    This is pretty interesting stuff! I look forward to seeing how characters in general make use of this new tech!

  • @Spyder-Marth
    @Spyder-Marth 2 года назад +2

    Marth is officially MID HIGH TIER! Slingshot to Nair to F-Smash will be gold!

  • @quasiZote
    @quasiZote 2 года назад +14

    Imagine doing miss-inputs while training RAR and wondering why your character moves so strangely... Watching a video a few years later just to get the explanation for it LMAO

  • @myleg7012
    @myleg7012 2 года назад +83

    Only GimR can find out how to wavedash in the air

  • @mj_FEAR
    @mj_FEAR 2 года назад +8

    BACK IN THE LAB AGAIN BABYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
    GIMVITATIONAL GONNA GO HARD
    9:30 Basics
    11:03 Flickshotting
    13:19 Holdshotting
    14:09 Fullshotting

    • @Maros_
      @Maros_ 2 года назад +1

      Why are you here

    • @mj_FEAR
      @mj_FEAR 2 года назад

      @@Maros_ I’m inside your walls

  • @Sami_8625
    @Sami_8625 2 года назад

    Wait. I've been doing this with little Mac but I never used it in battle. I only used it to keep my hands warm. I'd run back and fourth doing the flickshot. I never thought of anything at the time but I tried what he said and it felt very familiar to me and then I realized. Wow. That awesome that you find this tech. I never knew I was doing anything different. But I guess I know how to do it well. Now that I know it actually has more uses than just running back and fourth I'm gonna practice it more. Wow. Thats awesome. Congrats man. Truly amazing

  • @farlaff
    @farlaff 2 года назад +1

    My condolences for your mother. I hope time can give you the comfort of living without her and get you used to the pain of the absence. she might be gone but the love will always remain.

  • @sinfinite7516
    @sinfinite7516 2 года назад +5

    We leave the B.S. (Before Slingshot) and enter the A.S. (After Slingshot) era, the meta changes!!!

  • @Andrew-lg9uf
    @Andrew-lg9uf 2 года назад +65

    Mewtwo might actually just be broken. It feels so cool to do

    • @brain_tonic
      @brain_tonic 2 года назад +7

      Yeah he's probably the biggest beneficiary.

    • @allen2reckless676
      @allen2reckless676 2 года назад +1

      No more tail hurtbox lets go

    • @darthdistortion1934
      @darthdistortion1934 2 года назад +1

      If there's no dashback animation for even a frame his tail hurtbox extension issue is saved

    • @sugggggon
      @sugggggon 2 года назад

      I have been doing this on mewtwo to hide his tail for more than a year... very disappointed that this is nothing new. Spoiler, m2 still sucks even with this tech. The problem is that you have to commit to a jump to save his tail, and then you're fucked

    • @darthdistortion1934
      @darthdistortion1934 2 года назад +10

      @@sugggggon No, you get full airdrift back with Mewtwo's insane air speed without his bogged air acceleration; being in that air state puts him in a relatively good position. Chances are you've just been doing regular air pressure which is why you keep getting hit
      The entire point of the tech is to reenter or engage in an airstate without:
      - turnaround animation
      - air acceleration startup
      You can do the first with a regular jump which is what I assume you're doing, but the fact that you're getting hit when you have a -3 aerial and top 3 airspeed implies you weren't doing slingshotting at all

  • @rudolf2002
    @rudolf2002 2 года назад +8

    Damn man... Rest in peace to your mother, I can't possibly imagine what you're going through right now... Thank you for this amazing video, I am sure your mother is proud of you in heaven!

  • @IllioSage
    @IllioSage 2 года назад +1

    lol its embarrassing clicking other videos on RUclips after watching this for how amazing this is.

  • @eMocHild551
    @eMocHild551 2 года назад

    It's great to see you still shaking it up man, thanks for breaking the meta

  • @tumultoustortellini
    @tumultoustortellini 2 года назад +10

    I think samus just became a way scarier character. She can move backwards while threatening chargeshot, the whole while with the new fastest instant movement option in tow. Zair fs chargeshot is going to be a problem.

    • @chrisbeach423
      @chrisbeach423 2 года назад

      samus will be ledge camping the whole match? firing missles, zair, and running away?

    • @3eazy350
      @3eazy350 2 года назад

      I agree. This along with b-reverse/wave-bouncing really gives her good movement options. Can’t wait to see what top samus players do with this

    • @3eazy350
      @3eazy350 2 года назад

      @@chrisbeach423 oh no, the projectile character is using projectiles??!??? Cry more lol