How to Turn Sea Water Into Fresh Water Without Pollution | Earth Explained!
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“The Line” is Saudi Arabia’s bold vision for the future of civilization: an ultra-modern city designed to house 1 million people and be entirely pollution-free. ↠Subscribe: ruclips.net/user/TerraMaterO...
But there’s one problem - it’s in the middle of the desert. And cities require a lot of water.
Enter the Solar Dome, a new desalination system built on existing technology. It’s supposed to be a low-cost, efficient, and carbon-neutral way of turning saltwater into fresh water. With water scarcity already threatening the Middle East, Saudi Arabia is the world leader in desalination, but the process does pose problems. We take a closer look at the environmental costs of desalination, and how new innovation like the Solar Dome is trying to tackle these issues.
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Sources:
1 - Steve Jobs introduces the iPhone in 2007
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2 - Svetlana V Boriskina et al.: Nanomaterials for the water-energy nexus. Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MiT), 2019.
3 - WIRED: "What’s inside this giant ‘solar dome’ coming to Saudi Arabia" July 2017
4 - Aondohemba Aende et al.: Seawater Desalination: A Review of Forward Osmosis Technique, Its Challenges, and Future Prospects. University of Leeds, 2020.
5 - Edward R Jones et al.: The state of desalination and brine production: A global outlook. Utrecht University, 2019.
6 - Ashraf Sadik Hassan et al.: PV and CSP solar technologies & desalination: economic analysis. Hamad Bin Khalifa University, Qatar Environment and Energy Research Institute, 2015.
7 - NEOM official website: www.neom.com/
8 - WIRED: "What’s inside this giant ‘solar dome’ coming to Saudi Arabia"
July 2017.
9 - Construction Week: NEOM inks deal to construct first 'solar dome' tech desalination plant. February 2020.
10 - Chris Sansom: Sun, Salt and Saudi Mega Cities. Featured News Article at Solar Water Plc. December 2020
11 - Malcolm Aw (Founder, Executive Chairman & Chief Technology Officer of Solar Water Plc) - Solarwater the Movie. • solarwater the movie
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Why is Arabia so arid in the first place?
How much drier and hotter will it get?
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A nuclear power plant need water to operate if the water's all gone well so is the nuclear power plant
@@Madasin_Paine WTF? I am certain that the other three people in the world who live with you in your mom's basement, understand this group created nano-language, but if you are trying to convince, explain or even just communicate with people who don't cohabitate in your insular microworld, you are not getting your point across. "K$^ V$ Desert" = Potassium Dollar change in (space) Velocity Dollar (space) Desert. Sure, who doesn't understand that bit of enlightenment? You crafted your first two questions in basic English, but the drugs started creeping into your third sentence and became more prevalent thereafter. What are you trying to say?
You could be a genius and I might agree with you if I knew what you intended to express. Let me take a stab at interpreting your final sentence. "(Edgar Rice?) Burroughs (reference to Martian deserts?) Well (a water source?) File copyright (or File come [that's a mixed signal]) to the Future (trademarked because it refers to "Back to the Future"?) today. Nevermind. No idea what you want to say.
Dehumidifiers right over the ocean
Solar dome oh lot sea salt.
Why not just pump the brine into large pools and let the rest of the water evaporate and they can sell the salt.
Copying my reply to a similar question here. To my knowledge it just creates salt flats. The moisture is carried away by the same air currents that don’t allow moisture to gather there in the first place
@@bewertsam yeah but you can then mine the salt and sell the salt and the desalinated water is also sold.
@@jaridkeen123 My thoughts too. Also the evaporated water from the brine still has some value, it will still increase local humidity and rainfall levels a bit and so help local vegetation growth, which should firm up the soil and help prevent sandstorms.
@@decus9544 And even if it is carried away it can still help other areas
@@bewertsam moisture can be collected via high tech nets
I just did a project about desalination and we found another method called microbial desalination. It uses bacteria to exrtract the salt while generating electricity! Its amazing! There is supposed to be a pilot of this in spain if I remember corectly!
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Sounds like Permaculture principles at work! Awesome.
Wow,this is interesting,give me more information to follow up.Thanks
You better submit your project to king of saudi Arabia. We can use it for brine. Namh shivay.
Can you please name the place or project I want to know more thanks!
Being a retired working historian, I've had to do my share of reading about water, water rights, water wars, water sales, water shortages and the impending water crises. Your video was a grim reminder of an ever more critical future.
This concept makes a lot of sense to me, I always wondered why variations of it are not already in use. The brine can be fed to an artificial lake to evaporate and the salt deposits harvested for other uses.
I've also wondered why people haven't continuously tried to innovate in desalination tech for the whole of human civilization. We've used various wheels: particularly water wheels, dams. But nobody thought of boiling the sea water then condensing it?! Nobody tried running the water through rocks and tried mimicking the natural process?
I find this so odd..... Especially that we thought of digging miles below before we thought of trying to capture and process water in abundance that's directly infront of us 🤔🤦♂️
@@anneeq008 Desalination isn't complicated, but it's still too energy-intensive.
Try this:
Drill a tunnel from Mediterranean Sea to Dead Sea (which is much lower).
Fill the tunnel with hydroelectric generators. (And of course lots of fail safes.)
Water evaporates from huge new Dead Sea (now alive), winds carry it west to Jordan's mountains.
Rain.
Huge amounts of green electricity.
Jordan shares fresh water with Israel, Israel share electricity with Jordan (and sell it to everyone else).
I first heard this idea in college when my physics class had a guest. Guy said he "ride shared" with other physics teachers, they worried at the Middle East's problems, then decided to try and find something that could be done.
This is such a strange idea ... it might change everything.
I really hope that this works and won't harm the sea more. If it works then this could help so many places.
Turn the Sahara into a rainforest.
Captures more carbon than all the world combined except China produces.
@Chris Sigurdsson It's going well I guess. Weather is funky as always. Global warming is getting more and more obvious here. Stupid people going to the volcano with no proper gear and masks. People suing the country for making them do quarantine when they get here. Stuff like that. I really wished that a volcano would erupt so that no more airplanes could come, but turns out it's so small that it has no effect on that and in stead we get more tourists. WHY CAN'T WE JUST CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!
Ps. How did you know I understood danish?
@@gubjorgm.2259 held að við tölum bara svo mikla dönsku við dani. Btw hæ annar Íslendingur hahahha
It will produce water much cheaper for sure but it will produce brine as well. It is just a total BS they can use the brine as it would cost many times more than producing water so it will be dumped back into the ocean.
@@litresdomines1356 var ekki að búast við annan íslending. Ég veit að við erum kent dönsku en nánast allir hata döndku og skil hana ekki. Ég er bara heppin að ég ólst up út í danmörku. Ég heyri oft að þau hata allt tengt danmörku og ég horfi á þeim og þau segja altaf "ó já ég gleymdi að þú átti heima þar. Þú ert allt í lagi" XD
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Good luck teaching sir!
@@hamburgerham3057 Thanks, kids are the future in my opinion!! Oops just realized I already said that.😂
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No
You actually believe this is good? Bet you live in a city far away from any ecosystem you destroy
And we still can't seem to realize how much we need each other
I love this!! Start saving all water during wet or rainy season, that added to the desalination program would help tremendously! Back in the 60’s Buckminster Fuller wanted to put a geodesic dome over a city! To help lower carbon footprint, to help decrease energy use, promote year round growing season! Why not try it-as well as build cities underground like Derinkuyu.
Egypt should flood the Qattara Depression. That would increase rainfall over the country and allow natural ecosystems to do the work of desalination for it.
Check out the Salton Sea.
@@KingfisherTalkingPictures the main issue with the salton sea is that it got flooded once by accident and has been drying up ever since. If there was actually a way to replenish the water loss it would have been fine.
Good idea because under ground sources of fresh water will also increase.
@@KingfisherTalkingPicturesSalton Sea is completely different. Qattara depression project would have a permanent connection to the Mediterranean sea. The Salton Sea has no connection to anything and will eventually dry up unless it is refilled.
@@yggdrasil9039 The whole Mediterranean Sea would dry up if no Atlantic Water would flow in. We humans have the brain capacities to make all deserts on this globe green, but we abuse this planets recources to make local and global wars, and without war we destroy those already green parts of planet into deserts, so instead of paying scientists to develop ways to make regions habitable, we pay scientists to develop ways to make regions inhabitable. Scientists should stop work for those satanic politicians giving them orders to destroy this planets recources. They need something like hippocratic promise to use their knowledge only for healing and helping, never for killing and destruction.
water in holland comes from sea water that is pumped into dunes.
and inland, from rain water that is collected in nature reserves and lakes.
This is really an interesting story, thank you John for sharing this with the community!
It is really important to be aware of the water situation in your home country!💧🚰
Yeah in the Holland’s Maybe in Overijssel and the other inland provinces it comes from de ground
Except in the Caribbean municipality (the BES islands), where it's produced from desalination.
My uncle said it came from the sewer treatment plant in Amsterdam.
yeah, it's possible because your sea salinity is low.
Fortunately I live next to one of the Great Lakes in the US so having fresh water isn't a problem yet but this tech is fascinating.
I remember reading about a simple project that made tiny windmills planted offshore. The wind would turn the blades which flicked up droplets of water which would then evaporate and be absorbed into the air. When the wind reached the land and hit the local mountains it would condense as rain.
Offshore windmills would pose danger to marine life - so, it would be interesting to know about the design created to prevent harming the marine animals. :D
It's worth a few marine lives
@@marthaelenacorral3042 I was talking about tiny little fans the size of a kids hand windmill that floats on the surface. The wind blows across them and they scoop up water into the air a few inches above the surface where it evaporates. They can't hurt fishes cos they are floating on the surface. However I have seen turbines that are built to go under the surface and have circular blades that rotate like a turbine engine as the tide comes in and goes out that have a hole in the centre that allows any marine life to flow through without getting harmed.
@@sharonjuniorchess Thanks for the clarification. :D
Isn't air above the sea already saturated with water vapor? If that's the case the droplets won't evaporate! It would only work in places where the air above the sea is dry.
Being a retired engineer, I would like to see these many water projects work across the globe since they offer a promise of solving more problems besides water. How do engineers get involved in such projects?
Engineers without Borders is a fantastic organization, though I doubt many of the projects they work on would involve such scale. They mostly focus on providing standard engineering services in areas of the world that might not otherwise be able to afford it.
@@adamhigh9888 sounds fun! thank you.
If your White & Western you’ll 100% be able to find a job in Saudi as in engineer. If you’ve also got a crackpot plan that nobody in their right mind would fund they’ll do that for you too!
@@abs6kader lol I’m going to be a process engineer and that’s where I wanna end up
You would like to see engineers work on less important issues?
I literally thought if this as a child. Nice to see my ideas weren't just daydreams.
You're not alone!
@@ranjitsharma5811 i was going to say that
Same
Yes, extremly easy solution. I dont know why they didnt build it earlier. Maybe using oil was even cheaper.
@@peterlustig6888 in the short term, yes
In the long term, hell no
I live on Long Island in NY, USA. we are surrounded by (undrinkable) water. The abundance of seawater is so extreme it's difficult to understand just how much salt water covers the earth. I'm sure that the components of the brine can be reduced to their most basic elements and used to fill a need for other products etc. if the brine is just evaporated in an open field, the water vapor will go into the atmosphere, and the salt and minerals can be broken down (with solar and wind energy)
vote Hochul
The primary remainder is sodium chloride (salt). It's not useful to break that down since there is little use for sodium and chlorine is poisonous. Also, current industrial processes produce a big excess of chlorine anyway. The good news is that you don't even really need to bother with breaking it down. All the freshwater just goes back into the ocean anyway eventually so you can just dump the concentrated brine back into the ocean with no ill effects so long as it is distributed over a wide area.
First time i see video about my country in English without involving politics
Thank you
Glad you enjoyed it!
You mean a video that *ignores* politics. It doesn't matter what you think it's a fact that MBS murdered someone knowing that the most corrupt US president in modern history wouldn't say anything. Your oil is your saving grace, always remember that.
@@phanCAbe dude...not cool
@@phanCAbe Your nuclear and missile is your saving grace. Always remember that.
Politics has a way of messing up a good thing. People are very similar around the word. It’s the politicians who cause the strife
Economic problem 2:19 - Byproduct 2:49 - Saudi Arabia and desalination plants 4:19 - Solar dome 6:08 - Brine 7:03
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I am going all in.
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6:58: “it reduces amount of brine” - how can it reduce it without just making it more concentrated? It doesn’t make sense… they just extract water from salty water so the amount of salt left behind stays constant…
Thanks for the chapters! ;-) I hope you don't mind if we use them in the video? BTW: if you're interested in how to deal with water scarcity in the American West, we made a couple of videos about this recently. Have a look: ruclips.net/video/0vsOtMwZsn4/видео.html
I thought of this idea 4 months ago and started to develop it to use it in Malta where there's plenty of sun.....I am really proud I thought of something like this on my own and thats actually possible to make it.
My industry is indoor agriculture, where the building is sealed and climate controlled. The moisture transpired by the crops inside is converted back into liquid to be reused by the plants again and again, saving over 95% of the water otherwise used in similar crops outdoors. This plus other efficiencies make indoor agriculture one of the most promising technologies for a future of more hungry people, less land and scarcer resources.
I hope this method of turning sea water into fresh water works. After the debacle that was those big ass artificial islands in Dubai, I am a bit skeptical. But here's hoping, it'd certainly be pretty neat!
Indeed - this would be amazing! 💧🚰
half of Netherlands is reclaimed from the sea. UAE didn't do anything unusual
@@shahrukhkhan8307 it was a debacle because many didn’t finish construction after the 2008 financial crisis. It’s more about the failure rather than it being a new idea
I don't see why it wouldn't work. They are basically running a giant still that produces water instead of alcohol, and the sun is providing the heat. Seems like it would be pretty easy in the middle of the freakin desert.
@@avshockey6633 the problem is not that I would not work. The design is so simple that it's guaranteed to work. The problem is that it might produce way too little water, the fact that it only works during the day and the cost of construction. We will have to see how it fares.
I’m from Singapore and here we rely mostly on rainwater collected in about 11/12 reservoirs, with attached water treatment facilities, supplemented with raw water sold by our neighbour, the state of Johor in Malaysia, that is treated here and sold back to them at a discount. Together these make up 60% of the freshwater we get.
One third is being supplied with recycled water, branded as NEWater, that is basically highly-treated reclaimed wastewater. It’s mixed in with the above for general supply, or provided as hyper-clean water for specific industrial use. The remaining one-tenth is from desalination, utilising the reverse osmosis process.
The use of RO membranes in both reclaimed and desalinated water here was the result of extensive research to solve the issues of water scarcity for this tiny island city state.
I do worry about where the hypersaline brine goes, and even the byproducts of wastewater reclamation. There’s not much clarity about what is done with either here.
A project like the solar dome wouldn’t be quite possible here due to the lack of space, though it could be setup on one of our smaller islands, but obviously on smaller scales.
The best solution would still be to improve our urbanscape to greatly increase the water catchment area, and hold water in the environment for longer, thus prolonging the journey of water to the reservoirs, and reduce losses via evaporation. With an average annual rainfall of 2400 mm, we’re not short of water gifted by the skies above, just need to be better at catching, storing and more mindfully using all of it, so we don’t need expensive and problematic technologies, or an occasionally petty neighbour, to depend on.
Perhaps you can do a video on water catchment methodologies that more urban areas should adopt?
Do you need treatment facilities for rainwater?
I understand that because of land scarcity you cannot store all the water you need despite the generous amount you get from rain. It's not possible to work a good agreement with either of your two neighbors, Malaysia or Indonesia, to get natural water from their dams.
It's a non-sense that you get some of your water through desalination.
I came up with this idea when I was 10. On a much smaller scale. After going to a science show about parabolic mirrors. I showed it to my teachers and parents and they just rolled their eyes. I live in Scotland, they were all thinking its too cold here for mirrors to evaporate water.
Get some degrees or make a startup/business plan. Find make an efficient way to make your ideas reality. The truth is you perhaps one of thousands from billions of humans that have think of this at least once in their lifetime.
I like it roll their eyes all they want good idea
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I wrote a paper about this in college during my undergrad in 2013. I actually think that the byproducts are worth more money Then the water itself. I did some pretty extensive napkin math and the one big problem with this process is that Is relatively large amounts of area are required to provide sufficient heat. The maximum reliable energy from the sun is about 400 watt/square meter. 20c sea water takes 4184 j/kg or 334720 joules just to warm 1L of water enough to vaporize at 100C. So to vaporize 1L of water per second, you would need 334720/400 = 29 meters square (a 100ft by 100ft bay of parabolic mirrors). A 1 mile by 1 mile field of mirrors would provide 2.56 million square meters of focused light or 3k L/Sec of vaporized water. That's about 100k L/hr or 1.2 million litres per 12 hours of sun. That's a nice number but then you realize people use 200L/day on average or more and you're not even at your 1 million people supported with an absolute gargantuan undertaking.
that's true, but those 200L don't just disappear together. some of it can be re-used.
Understanding the problem so we can understand the solution. Regional mega drought in the southwest, caused by a lot of things but essentially more water is being used and is in one way or another moved out of the region then the amount of water that is re-entered into the region. Conservation has its place but it is not a solution to this problem. The demands on water will not abate without causing complete collapse so the only alternative is to introduce a new source of water. Drawing water from other regional rivers like the Columbia or the Mississippi or Missouri would only move the problem around, draining other regions. The only essentially inexhaustible source of water is the ocean.
One thing we need to do is move water from the ocean back inland to places we need it and if we can do that while generating clean energy we have a chance to mitigate climate change and still have a prosperous future. It is really, really hard but it is not impossible.
If I could explain my idea in an equation it would go something like. (seawater from the west coast moved inland + converted by combination geothermal/desalination projects = clean water and clean energy.) The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution. Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.
The fake royalty likes to look wise. He thinks because he has oil money that he is king 💩. What you wrote makes sense, it examines the engineering challenges. Certainly it can be done. One thing that could help alot, is how people use water, this could be much more efficient than it is now. Another problem is govt perceived control of all resources, the WEF has been working on taking complete control of all resources for 51 years so far, now they are accelerating their evil plans. You won't even be able to grow your own vegetables in your own garden without them knowing about it, and paying them for permission to do so. Remember, they are deceived enough by the devil to think that they own the genetics in those vegetables, and so, if you aren't paying them royalties on the ones that you grow, well then, with every morsel of food you eat, they will own one more little piece of you...until in their mind, they will own you completely. This applies to fresh clean drinking water too...
Sure, but the desert is nothing if not cheap real-estate. Finding land for these projects is not going to be a large problem for Saudi Arabia. Even the more heavily populated California has huge tracks of unused desert land that can be used to house such projects.
400 watt/square now ... Climate change will increase that number right? Will 500 watt/square change your calculation much?
My water comes from the local pub but is contaminated with yeast and fermented grain 😅
You know that people--including kids--drank, at least, "small beer" (low alcohol) for breakfast, lunch, and (maybe high-alcohol ales for) dinner, all through middle-ages Europe, and especially England? They weren't smart enough to not urinate and defecate in their water supply, so disease was rampant, and even 3.2% pisswater lite beer has enough alcohol to kill bacteria. Yeast and grain are a tasty way to un-contaminate water. Three cheers for yeast and barley!
😁😂🤣
Please become professional comedian because that comment cracked me up xD
I prefer the distillation process and it always tastes like Jack Daniels
Same! 😁
Cheers 🍻
The biggest idea I am trying to express is tunneling aqueducts from the coast, in this case the west coast of the USA inland to feed combination geothermal power and sea water desalination plants. The idea seems to be so big that no one has considered it possible but I believe it is not only possible but it is necessary. For over a century the fossil water contained in aquifers has been pumped out to feed agriculture, industry and municipal water needs. The natural water cycle cant refill fossil water deposits that were filled 10,000 years ago when the glaciers melted after the last ice age. Without refilling these aquifers there is not much of a future for the region of the United states. As a result ground levels in some areas of the San Joaquin Valley have subsided by more than 30 feet. Similar fossil water depletion is happening in other regions all around the world. TBM and tunneling technology has matured and further developments in the industry are poised to speed up the tunneling process and it's these tunnels that are the only way to move large volumes of water from the ocean inland. The water is moved inland to areas where it can be desalinated in geothermal plants producing clean water and power. In many cases the water will recharge surface reservoirs where it will be used first to make more hydro power before being released into rivers and canal systems. It's very important however to not stop tunneling at these first stops but to continue several legs until the water has traveled from the ocean under mountain ranges to interior states. Along the way water will flow down grade through tunnels and rise in geothermal loops to fill mountain top pumped hydro batteries several times before eventually recharging several major aquifers. What I am proposing is essentially reversing the flow of the Colorado River Compact. Bringing water from the coast of California first to mountaintop reservoirs then to the deserts of Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and Wyoming. This big idea looks past any individual city or states problems and looks at the whole and by using first principles identifies the actual problem and only solution.
Thank you for your time, I would like the opportunity to explain in further detail and answer any questions.
A better future is possible,
David
I’ve answered this before. The main issue is the byproduct of desalination. Left over salt and how to dispose of it safely without destroying the ecosystem. People say, “well you can just use the salt”. Problem is, you’re going to produce more salt than you can use if every country starts to use desalination. I know this because when I was stationed in the navy for several years we would desalinate seawater on our ship when we ran out of fresh water in the Persian Gulf. We had evaporators designed strictly for that purpose. It’s also very slow and time consuming to make seawater drinkable. Another thing is, you can’t monitor and guarantee every country is going to follow safety protocols when disposing the brine and salt. I do know that if we don’t figure out something fast here in Western United States there’s going to be mass riots and millions of deaths when the water runs out. I’m in southern Arizona it’s hot, 90-118 degrees at least 7-8 months out of the year in my location. Several of our main rivers are drying up. It’ll probably be within this decade will start seeing a national emergency declared by our government that there’s no water for the entire southwest.
@@adammijares9222 Political will is the biggest hurdle to accomplishing big projects. Especially in California and after blowing $100 billion on a high speed train to nowhere. I think it is obvious to most people that something drastic needs to be done to solve the water problem and that conservation only goes so fare. I would propose to fund the tunneling part of this solution with a system similar to the Permanent Wyoming Mineral Trust Fund is a type of permanent fund called a sovereign wealth fund (SWF). SWFs are typical government funding tools. They consist of investments and assets that the government is not allowed to cash out or deplete. However, while it can't touch the principal, the government normally has the right to spend any revenue these investments generate on appropriate functions and expenses. Each state, California, Nevada and Arizona and on to Utah, New Mexico, Colorado and of course Wyoming could place a small 2% tax on the energy sector and use those funds to invest in Geothermal energy projects and eventually the aqueduct can link up to those projects. There are already over 800 geothermal energy projects in California alone. The equation for my big solution is (ocean water brought inland through large underground aqueducts + combination geothermal and desalination plants = clean water and clean energy).
You are absolutely right. Riparian areas are lands that occur along watercourses and water bodies. Typical examples include flood plains and streambanks. They are distinctly different from surrounding lands because of unique soil and vegetation characteristics that are strongly influenced by the presence of water. Beavers are critical to managing these areas and they help to recharge the aquifers and make these areas drought resistant. Most farms in the US get rid of this habitat and turn creaks and streams into drainage ditches. If we reversed this by repairing these lands and reintroducing beavers those farmers would find that they will have more productive farms.
I think this would be worthwhile to do. It makes sense because we are boiling water anyway to generate electricity so might as well get two birds with one stone. Not sure how much water can be made this way though.
The proper management of flood water can help greatly. This is not really too difficult to do and was done successfully in the Davis California project. Pre-cleaning of flood water is the main concern, and it may be possible to use artificial wet lands to do this job.
I’ve been saying this for years. We need to get a storm water cleaning plant/refinement system setup.
Maybe use some low laying land or old lake beds to hold the water.
Otherwise it’s clean water lost to the ocean eventually
I live in rural northern New South Wales and for many here, 2019 was a worse year than 2020. We had a widespread years-long drought, but 2019 broke us with only about 30mm of rain over 6 months. There were dust bowls, the landscape looked Martian. We're on a table-lands, 1000m above sea level, so desalination is out of the question... so water was being trucked in daily to communities for months. 2020 and 2021 have been blessings here... rains have come, dams are filled. Water security is a pressing issue in most parts of Australia, but it's a challenging issue to solve in such a large, dry and sparsely populated country with challenging geography.
Wow. Thank you for this interesting & informative local insight.
@@terramater you're welcome :) the 2019/2020 drought and subsequent bushfires were particularly nasty.
For a bit more insight into Australia... we have some awesome existing water infrastructure projects like the "drought proofing" of South East Queensland and the Perth-Kalgoorlie pipeline, the controversial Tasmanian dams and Snowy River scheme, but we have some politically-popular, white elephant projects which promise to secure water too... the Bradfield scheme promises to divert the annual flood waters of North Queensland through the Great Divide into rivers that would eventually flow into the Murray-Darling basin. Another crazy scheme is to dig a canal from the Spencer gulf to the below sea-level Lake Eyre to open up an inland sea for more moisture 😅. Both are unfeasible and would be environmentally harmful (at this point), but they're examples of desperate solutions to people with a constant and desperate need for more water. What I find particularly interesting though is how our local Aboriginal people moulded and worked with the land and how even in the dryest of times, the artesian basins would provide. We have a lot to learn here :)
Lol, never knew 2020 can be positive considering all the other shitting things that happen.
@@htoodoh5770 we've been hardly affected by the pandemic here... only about a dozen cases in the whole region about a year ago. 2020 was a much better year locally than 2019... especially for introverts 😊
@@thripples1 I am sure it was pleasant for most introvert at least for a while.
I also had this idea on a more simple scale. Shallow black pond with greenhouse plastic over it. Water piped up in black tubing heated by the sun/sand. Also a few steps beyond this desalination plant. Build a community center at each desalination plant for people to come fetch fresh water. Composting toilets are built here. Humanure is then used as a medium to plant jatropha plants. Jatropha is a berry shrub that grows well in droughts and desert conditions. Its berries contain 70% oil. The locals are encouraged to pick the jatropha berries where they can exchange them at the community center for staples. An on-site low tech processing center (think stepping on grapes for wine) presses oil and packages it for sale as a global commodity to be used as biodiesel/ jatropha oil. This is a low tech and low cost plan for helping to reverse desertification in Africa (or similar barren lands with ample heat and salt water).
Smart idea
lets have water for the animals, as well.... no one is looking at this, and it is precisely the lack of respect and love for our native planet that got us in the mess we are in now... add to that the uncontrolled population.
@Dan Beech pump out salt brine as needed (probably once a week/ maintenance). Could be left in a kiddie pool type concrete pad to be dried/ scraped and collected. Or left in place and ocean water stopped pumping in until brine dried into salt and collected.. Or pumped back into ocean to help correct the low salt levels of the ocean
This is what I have been saying for decades now! Glad it’s actually being used even if it’s still in the early stages
Thermal desalination can be extraordinarily inexpensive if it is done with molten salt reactors. Molten salt reactors operate at temperatures high enough to generate both electricity and desalinated water in the same system. If the molten salt reactor is fueled with thorium the nuclear waste is only dangerous for less than 500 years.
I am from Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦. Thank you man for the good accurate coverage of the whole situation. In addition to the solar dome we have already installed machines that draws water from the humidity of the air and cool it down for human consumption in NEOM. The machine serves water for the people for free.
What you are describing is a dehumidifier and it used a signify amount of energy because it relies on a refrigerant loop
@@Art-uz3fk It’s solar powered, produces 52l/d to over 5000l/d (that’s $0.03/l) and it’s equipped with a disinfection and ceramic filter units. This is not your commercial dehumidifier, it was built to be scalable and sustainable.
Calling this green is really deceptive, and removing water from sea water will produce brine or increased salinity. It is more efficient but far from free! Just because someone else is paying does not make it free; it still requires energy to function. You can't get something from nothing!!
@@garybulwinkle82 There are very few places in the world where people drink water for free. In England I could catch, store and filter rain but there is still a significant capital cost plus on going maintenance costs, therefore, it is important to try different approaches. It seems that the effluent issues are still the biggest drawback.
@@garybulwinkle82 Saudi Arabia is the 13th largest country with the largest continuous sandy desert in the world. Also has one of the largest area covered by constant sunshine = solar power= free energy. It also has a leading company that produces solar panels. As for brine we could just fill some of the empty desert with it and make an artificial brine lake and use it for other manufacturing purposes.
I’m blessed to live on the Great Lakes! I think in the past we haven’t always treated this incredible resource with the care we should.
You can bet the more arid and thirsty portions of the country are hungrily eying the great lakes.
I seen a kid just throw a plastic bottle right out his window at a red light,we need to teach everyone not to litter , we already got plastic in our water and other Hazzardous waste .
@@rafetizer As a Canuck, I'd respond to your suggestion simply: "No." There are myriad reasons why, but I think the place to start is the unfathomabletomost size of the country. In my province alone, I can drive for twenty-four hours from the south-east point to get to its diagonal cousin at the north-west corner.
@@probitionate I'm not suggesting it, some western states have already tossed out the idea.
Living in the desert is hard for most of the people but ones u r used to it ....
Its like living in heaven.
So much more benefical to our World. Water is Life and life needs this ideal. Hope and pray that everyone can benefit from this.
Making water with oil and pumping brine back into the ocean... what could go wrong?
sadge
*sigh* most of saudi's solution to shortages can worsen the environmental crisis that we already have
@@lili-ke6dp that nation will collapse in the future tho, they got nothing, they are a giant sand bank, without oil revenues, they will go extinct.
nothing
The salt should be made into bricks to build homes. It can be covered with stucco.
@ Iguana Pete says; "
The salt should be made into bricks to build homes " !
But what about When " The Cattle " come for " The Salt " ! 🐱🐉 🐱🏍
Move over lithium ion,sodium ion batteries also work.
@@gurugreat5663 What is the use in disposal? Wouldn't effort into recycling the batteries create a more sustainable and beneficial use for the waste?
@@gurugreat5663 Hot metal batteries are going to eventually put lithium ion out of business for large scale work.
i am very interested in finding out the results of this project.
I live in The Netherlands, and our water basically comes from the ground. I suppose we are blessed with this, as it provides one of the cleanest sources of tap water in the world, at a very reasonable rate. I don't think many other countries are able to employ this trick, due to geological obstacles mostly.
The technique shown seems viable, but it has yet to be proven whether it can be built in the first place. Megastructures are seldom without complications, which is why there are so few megastructures (of any kind) in the world.
Groundwater is finite, most places have it (or have had it) but it's easy to drain, never to return
@@planefan082 I'm not sure what the point is you're making. Every water source is finite, isn't it.
THIS IS GREAT FOR THE WHOLEWORLD IN THE FUTURE, THANK YOU.
There are so many family salt business that would Love to have that brine
really happy to live in Canada, with perfectly clean and tasty tap water and drinkable water in the lake in my backyard. can’t imagine how hard life must be without this privilege.
Lucky.
“How long have you had this tumor?”
“I first noticed it shortly after I started drinking the lake water.”
@@regolith1350 true
our lake ontario is polluted as ever . Thank god for filters.
@@shmo3723 i live about 6 hours north of montreal. there’s barely any pollution in our lakes. specific lakes are crazy polluted, but most have really clean water.
When I was in 3rd grade I sketched a a glass dome around a mountain and a lake .the closer you got to the top the thinner the glass to allow the water to condense in higher regions while the lake was super heated by a vantablack coating .the water would turn into vapor ,condense high up in the mountain and generate power as it continues to rush down
Water treatment engineers in Switzerland and Germany have a saying: between Basel and Hamburg, the same water gets drunk four times. A resource you reuse is virtually endless (and cheaper).
Japan enters the chat:
Do you want my water? have a lots already in tanks :) I was just thinking about dispose them...
Greenland blending in:
Our water has build up 3500 meters above sealevel.
Ha ha..I see wat u did there..Fukushima water
@@oneshothunter9877 Im 100% sure it isn't 3500 meters anymore...
fukushima water
If you market it well, you might just run into a shortage of it.
Fukushima water... A glass in the morning and a glass in the evening will leave you simply GLOWING!
When computer with micro-chips were invented we were promised flying cars, domed cities and colonies on the moon. What we got was Facebook, Twitter and morons staring at phones all day.
And now, as our planet is dying, we're finally seeing some more advanced technologies sprout
@@adriel1478
“We’re so self-important. Everybody’s going to save something now. “Save the trees, save the bees, save the whales, save those snails.” And the greatest arrogance of all: save the planet. Save the planet, we don’t even know how to take care of ourselves yet. I’m tired of this shit. I’m tired of f-ing Earth Day. I’m tired of these self-righteous environmentalists, these white, bourgeois liberals who think the only thing wrong with this country is that there aren’t enough bicycle paths. People trying to make the world safe for Volvos. Besides, environmentalists don’t give a shit about the planet. Not in the abstract they don’t. You know what they’re interested in? A clean place to live. Their own habitat. They’re worried that some day in the future they might be personally inconvenienced. Narrow, unenlightened self-interest doesn’t impress me.
The planet has been through a lot worse than us. Been through earthquakes, volcanoes, plate tectonics, continental drift, solar flares, sun spots, magnetic storms, the magnetic reversal of the poles … hundreds of thousands of years of bombardment by comets and asteroids and meteors, worldwide floods, tidal waves, worldwide fires, erosion, cosmic rays, recurring ice ages … And we think some plastic bags and some aluminum cans are going to make a difference? The planet isn’t going anywhere. WE are!
We’re going away. Pack your shit, folks. We’re going away. And we won’t leave much of a trace, either. Maybe a little Styrofoam … The planet’ll be here and we’ll be long gone. Just another failed mutation. Just another closed-end biological mistake. An evolutionary cul-de-sac. The planet’ll shake us off like a bad case of fleas.
The planet will be here for a long, long, LONG time after we’re gone, and it will heal itself, it will cleanse itself, ’cause that’s what it does. It’s a self-correcting system. The air and the water will recover, the earth will be renewed. And if it’s true that plastic is not degradable, well, the planet will simply incorporate plastic into a new paradigm: the earth plus plastic. The earth doesn’t share our prejudice toward plastic. Plastic came out of the earth. The earth probably sees plastic as just another one of its children. Could be the only reason the earth allowed us to be spawned from it in the first place. It wanted plastic for itself. Didn’t know how to make it. Needed us. Could be the answer to our age-old egocentric philosophical question, “Why are we here?”
Plastic… asshole.”
@@jabariuswilliams9264 liberals are pathetic
@@jabariuswilliams9264 that is Carlin’s text.
@@laurafulop2486 text alone fails to grant the consumer the same experience... you lose his cantor and emphasis, his comedic intonation and delivery... truly the best there’s ever been.
Brine is used as a preservative in meat-packing (as in corned beef) and pickling. In refrigeration and cooling systems, brines are used as heat-transfer media because of their low freezing temperatures or as vapour-absorption agents because of their low vapour pressure. Brine is also used to quench (cool) steel.
Pump the brine back into the jet stream using rubber pipes.
Good way of recycling tires.
By taking the fresh water out of the oceans and pumping the saline back in it will help keep our oceans stabilized.
lliving in germany in a city near Düsseldorf. My water comes from the local filtering complex.
It would be really interesting if you could find out where the water for that complex comes from! Please share your findings with us, we would love to hear about it! 😊🚰
@@lenafromterramater3690 in the direkt surroundings of my City are two dams, which store the water for the four filter colmplexes.
Basically all water in Germany comes from rivers or ground water reserves fed by rain. Here in Cologne our drinking water comes from the Cologne Bay, a fluvial terrace along the Rhine river (which has its main source in the Alps) from Bonn to Düsseldorf, which contains a subterranean stream that is fed by rain and surface water from the Rhine river. It is naturally filtered by the soil and extracted via a multi-well system and processed in waterworks before it's being fed into the water network.
Thank you for making me research that, I've never thought about it before.
@@littlerave86 Exactly.
On top of that Germany has a well developed system of of cleaning and reusing used water.
No system is perfect, and some regions actually lack water. But overall water supply in germany is really good.
I live in rural Jamaica. I live mostly on stored rain water. You see the national water commission is unable to supply water adequately throughout the year. Heavy rains cause turbidity in the water supply to the water treatment plant and so the plant is unable to produce at full capacity. The other problem is drought when the natural resovoir which supports the water treatment plant goes so low that the plant is below full capacity again. Also the terrain approaching the area where I live is hilly makin it difficult for the available pressure to overcome and reach us. What makes it tricky for me is that sometimes it only rains in the resovior area so I dont get to harvest any rain water. So I live at mercy of the rain and the inefficient water treatment plant.
I might come from a fresh water country with lots rivers and lakes, but feel that this is the new way of the future
Absolut empfehlenswert, hoffe, dass Sudi Arabien seine ehrgeizigen Pläne voll umsetzen kann.
Habe in den Jahren
1982 bis 1984 und
1999 dort gearbeitet.
War sehr interessant.
War ebenso fuer einige Zeit in Al Jubail an einem
Entsalzungsprojekt
mit Umkehrosmose.
Auch an mehreren Kraftwerksprojekten
mit thermischer Meerwasserentsalzung am roten Meer.
My greatest dream as a human is to watch hot, dry deserts be turned into lush forests standing upon good soil.
We are sailing in the same boat😁
China is turning the gobi dessert into forest
You mean on purpose? Deserts are far from lifeless. They have quite the ecosystem and any alteration to that would spell certain doom to the indigenous life there. Desert life is perfectly suited for their environment and changing their habitat would be destructive.
I think it also is one of the greatest dream I have!
@@clintforest44 we cannot terraform all deserts into productive lands, but the Tabuk province (Neom) and Sinai in Egypt in perfect for new projects.
If you look at a map of Sinai, it looks like a heart. Sinai used to be lush, but now it's a desert. In half a century I predict that rain will come more often in this region.
Egypt is spending a lot of money to combat poverty and unemployment in Sinai.
Terra mater has became my best go to youtube channel. Information dense with nuances never known before with good videography and sound
You are too kind! Thank you! 😊
Had an idea similar years ago but basically it was a water pipe. 2 pipes. 1 pipe inside the other.
Not so much a pipe but so much as a flat aqueduct. With a glass cover that you run seawater over. The sun heats up the water. The aqueduct plane is painted black to increase temp to evaporation point. Intertwined within its construction are copper or thermally conducive wires kept close to the surface of the concrete. This copper wire mesh is subdivided into sections of construction along this pipe. Magnifying glasses superheat onto a heat point which heats up each section. The water collects on the glass cover then trickles down into a secondary pipe. Where the fresh water is kept seperate from the salt water. Salt is left as a byproduct along the entire channel. Which can be easily harvested. It requires very little money to make.
The desert environment does all the work.
Just keep the freshwater part, hidden and blocked. Or have it drip into alternate channels for agriculture.
As far as agriculture is concerned you never want above ground sprinklers. Id suggest under a farm having tracts of water contained within an adjustable sponge layer so you can induce plant roots to spread to the depths you require for the soil being planted in. Zero water loss.
Grow below as above. Duh...
The sun and heat powers the device.
Use low tech were you dont need high tech. Use high tech for the things that require high tech. Best not to advertise how advanced you are. Best to mask intelligence.
Hi Jon!
Thanks for sharing your experience with us!
Hello,, i am not a engineer, but an engineer's son. with that said, it would be a good course of action to drill the Aquaphors beneath the desert plains in the area. Desalination would not be necessary, only filtration plants would be in order. Just a suggestion!
S.Winter
We badly need a good desalination tech to overcome all these hurdles. Scientists from the whole world should come together in developing this.
Water💦 is life🌿.
This technology is also a ecologically friendly solution 🌍 which is key because #terramatters
@@lenafromterramater3690 Did you mean "ecologically"?
@@lenafromterramater3690 Yes, terra matters.
That was a smart 🧠 reply. 🤭🤭
Saudi Arabia is working on a green solution to provide a new city in the desert with water. What about you? Where do you live? Is there enough fresh water in your region and do you know where the water in your tap comes from? (Not knowing where your water comes from is also an interesting answer for us. 😉) We'd love to create future episodes on water topics across the world and we're looking forward to your answers!
In our home, water comes straight from ground by pumping water motor.
I live in Delhi i don't how water come
In delhi what is processing and mechanism .please do video on delhi highly densely populated capital . azadpur in delhi. south Asia's biggest market for vegetables how mismanaged the waste food
@@vikasprajapati4045 that would be cool
Mix brine with shit water then pump it back. Poop is mostly water and they can crack down on bad foods that effect our shit
We have seasonal flood and keep polluting the water here in indonesia 🤣
Seems the biggest hurdle in desalination is the energy source. Once we can power these plants with clean energy sources, then the problem can be solved with great work from great people. 🙏
Once the super saturated brine is produced it can then be further processed into sea salt;
Alternatively it can then be harvested for fertilizers. or alternatively stored on land as structured material for further processing., or as a building material in the desert. possibly as a shade material, or to capture sand in block form, which will help alleviate dust progress.
Interesting!!
I hope this new theory for the water desalination works. It will help lots in planting the desert and having cheaper water for daily use.
This has given me more hope for the future of our planet than anything Bill Gates has ever said.
Why do idiots ALWAYS support despotic dictators over scientists and doctors. Because dictators will tell you anything you want to hear, while scientists will tell you the often boring truth. And idiots don't have any time for the boring truth.
@@Poler777 bill gates is a thief and a business man. He doesn't do anything out of goodness of the heart.
@@arjitmishra100 nor do the Saudis 🙄
Nah, mr. Gates prefers to find more innovative ways to force windows updates to force you to change your computer every two years or more frequently. You really mentioned the wrong person here, sorry.
This is great news! Maybe other places could put this technique to use, once it gets going.
Very inspiring bravooooo bravo bravo big big like indeed...let us know that wasted toilettes water is further recycled for farming use... because water worths gold indeed
My last teacher at my high school did if someone could find a cheap way to desalination, they made a fortune bigger then anyone else.
We almost need to sell it as profitable... Where as we don't do anything without it.
i see you didnt graduate.....jayzoos
If somebody did do that, he would be assassinated immediately, and his invention would be stolen and/or destroyed.
Yo, the production in this video (0_0) The flow was amazing!
Glad we could amaze you that much! 😊
you can extract not just table salt but all so lithium salts from the brine and lithium prices are going skyrocketing so extracting the salt from the brine is very cheap and profitable and you can even use a modified solar dome to extract the salt via air circulation and using sea water to condense moisture gaining the full amount of fresh water from the sea water
Similar to this process was running in my head also using this there are more by products ELECTRICITY due to steam expansion, Salt and Hot water. Natural evaporation can also be used in lakes etc to get clean drinking water and eletriccity
Looks like we won’t be fighting over oil in the future
Dont be so optimistic
I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment send 10 month ago
@@isakjohansson7134 I live in Karachi Pakistan and I like your comment
@@sayyamzahid7312 I dont know but i suppose you have had your nation largely destroyed by USAs military
@@isakjohansson7134
Pakistan hasn’t been destroyed by U.S. military. It may have been corrupted by it though. The Muslim nations of the Middle East are starting to emerge into the modern age and leaving the Middle Ages version of Islam behind. That is why they are able to start big projects like this. Countries like Pakistan and Afghanistan are still living in the Middle Ages and as long as they do they will not progress and continue to be impoverished. Afghanistan is sitting on the biggest mineral treasure trove in the world, but their hardline backwards Middle Ages version of Islam prevents them from taking advantage of it and enriching their people. In the Bronze Age Afghanistan was the primary source of tin. That country is loaded with mineral wealth. It’s like a poor goat herder living in a thatched hut on top of a mountain of gold. Ignorant fools now control Afghanistan. Sad.
That's special salt literally filled with precious metals. Thumbs up on the overall ideas. Super cool if other countries give it a try as well. It's getting hot lol.
you can store and evaporate all left over in a big concrete reservoir and later on, use the solid left over to produce variety of chemical material, construction material, and in other purposes, that's so easy
I have given thought on this ... And after running so many horses in brain came with some ideas .... So that we can make it more environmental friendly for sure ...
1. You want the desert to have rain. But the air is very dry, so in order to rain in the desert, the air needs to be slightly moist (water vapour).
2. To have a steam desert, you need steam. It is necessary to pump water into the desert to evaporate the water. For example 30% of the area is covered with water
3. When there is a lot of water in the air, the desert will gradually rain
So Crazy
Great idea! Would that be feasible is they pumped the desert with the brine instead? Pumping brine back into the ocean is SO NOT ideal *sigh* it can harm aquatic life
@@lili-ke6dp Yes, giving brine to plants can have detrimental effects and is generally not recommended. Brine is a highly concentrated solution of salt dissolved in water, typically used for preserving food or in industrial processes. While small amounts of salt can be beneficial to some plants, excessive salt or brine can be harmful and even toxic to most plants.
Here's why brine can be harmful to plants:
Osmotic imbalance: When plants are exposed to high levels of salt, it creates an osmotic imbalance. Salt draws water out of plant cells, leading to dehydration and reduced growth. It disrupts the plant's ability to absorb water and nutrients from the soil.
Soil salinity: Continuous application of brine or salty water can increase the salt concentration in the soil. This creates a high-salinity environment that adversely affects plant roots. Salty soil can inhibit root growth and limit nutrient uptake, leading to stunted growth or plant death.
Ionic imbalance: Salt contains sodium and chloride ions that can interfere with the balance of other essential nutrients in the plant. High sodium levels can disrupt nutrient uptake and cause nutrient deficiencies or toxicities.
Toxicity symptoms: Plants exposed to excessive salt or brine may exhibit symptoms such as leaf burn, yellowing or browning of leaves, wilting, reduced fruiting, and overall decline in health.
@@lili-ke6dp this technique can be used to stop flooding of Florida and refreeze freshwater to save the Arctic
I sincerely hope for effective desal. Yet the ideas too often ignore that sea water has more than salt, it has organisms too. Separating the salts and minerals from the organic matrix and simply keeping the infrastructure clean are also challenges to overcome.
What will you do with all the salt. There will be megatons of salt piling up everywhere. You can't put it back in the ocean.
@@edwardhanson3664 you think the mass of salt humans could extract from the oceans (and put back in) is significant to the mass already there and also added continually at vents? Besides, removing the salt via sea water and returning it is a mass balance, not an addition.
@@jaymacpherson8167 the eco system where the brine is put back in can be damaged
@@ChrisMuehlberger60 Right, so return it where damage is minimal. Many organisms adapt to the vents where plates spread. They will adapt where the brine is returned. There is a difference between blindly causing gross damage and admitting we are affecting the environment wherever we touch.
@@jaymacpherson8167 the question is how costly is it to pump it into areas where it doesn't matter
place large silos in the seafloor who's tops rise well above sea level > open valves to let fresh sea water into silos (use filters to keep out fish) > use fresnel lenses to focus sunlight into silos boiling seawater > steam rises to collection tanks that are much higher than tops of silos > steam converts back to fresh water > fresh water runs down from collection tanks to land > on the way down fresh water turns turbines generating electricity as well as fresh water
Charlie Paton and his team developed the SEAWATER GREENHOUSE, an innovative concept at low costs. We heard a brilliant talk of Charlie for the Rotary Club about this concept. it shurely deserves more attention. The brine is not poured back into the sea but the salts are fixed in cardboard where they can be extracted from in case of need.
Interesting!
Salt is also an electrolyte and I imagine they can find ways to use salt in that manner too, also make salt a valuable resource. Lithium is very valuable and could maybe be extracted from the brine before it is pooled.
Salt + Saltwater can be used to block radiantion from radioactive waste. So killing off fossil fouls for a mix of reneable eneergy and atomic eneergy may do the trick.
I belive it s the natural process in atacama desert in Bolivia. Actually the salt is lithium, which is a good business
So, this is an industrial-size version of Zeltec’s water cone?
This is very cool. One question though, why the condensed residue is not used to make sea salt but bumping it back to the ocean?
LOL I love it... what happen to the brine is unanswered... As soon as I saw the drawing it was obvious. How do you remove it and what do you do with it?
I thought of this when I was in highschool.... who hasn't seen the sun evaporate water! What took them so long haha
Lol I saw this in some film where the guy was lost at sea and had to use evaporation and condensation to drink
This has been known for centuries you silly man. It has only been possible recently due to efficiencies in cost and technology. Even then it is expensive and very harmful to the environment.
In Los Angeles we get our water from the Colorado River and the Owens Valley during our short rainy season I'm always amazed at how much water comes down from the Foothills and mountains not utilized but is channeled straight to the ocean instead of some Reservoir Lagoon or underground water cisterns
too many people would lose their minds if we slowed down all the run off.
Just build green houses with flooding pools flood them with salt water. Then use a fan to suck out the humid air and condense it. Scrape the bottom of salt and then redo it. Infact you could build these so they just float on the surface of the ocean like very large air mattresses. Have them flood a few inches of water at a time so it evaporates faster. Think of a bouncy house or inflatable castle. But with a green house dome and a few funnels and drip edges to collect the water.
I live in Mexico on the northeast side in a city called Monterrey, close to the South of Texas, USA. We have a problem with water nowadays and yes I struggle a lot to let them know through social media to my local Governor through hashtags and told them I was invaded with an Idea 💡 back then in 2018, and so forth. Anyway bringing water from the Gulf of Mexico using Arquimedes screw's, or even sound technology with tubes underground and big silos of water in every kilometer where the systems of tubes were going through and reach the Mountain top and drop it, after desalination into the top of the mountain in the river streams so that when the water reaches the dams and rivers the water is already fresh and purified. Doing the water cycle of condensation from the sea and then raining on the top of the mountains and coming back to the ocean through the very same river we use to extract water.
We can save water in the silos for future use or droughts. And use all other several technologies for the water.
Could always do a video on phosphorus mining in Florida, or Morocco. The future effects of rising tides on the Floridan Aquifer, mebbe, or the Everglades.
Thanks terra👍 im studying egypt and the low water supply so this will help
solar water plans to complete in 2021. So did they finish it? does it work?
The water in our region Trenton New Jersey, comes from the Delaware rear and canal which is fed by the Raritan River. This water is transferred to the treatment plant in Trenton, and the small amount of backwash from sand filters, and overflow, are fed into the Delaware.
Brine can be given to sea salt farms, reducing their time for getting more salt from evaporation as the brine would have more concentration of salt than normally putting the seawater to evaporate.
Yeah, honestly i have no idea why every documentary talks about the brine issue as if this isn't easy for a newborn to fix. Give brine to salt farmers, dilute the brine with ocean water before you release it, just pump the brine into a ecologically dead area in your mostly ecologically dead country. 3 easy options but it's such an impossible feat.
Heck use it to clear snowy roads for countries like Russia etc..
@@michaelvigil5321 The transport cost for it probably exceeds the profit margin for those salt farmers.
@@zhunjiang5718 so make farms next to the plants... i mean salt farming isn't a technical wonder like modern agriculture, it's just sand hills separating pools of salt water. I can't imagine it would cost much to make new salt farms.
What about desalination plants? Like with roots They would absorb minerals as the water flows into a pond and capture carbon as well.
Maybe you can make a video on the New fresh water system, I seen in a video, the machine would make drinking water out of the air. I believe it must be some sort of a dehumidifier? I don't know, but that item would help people in Africa and places were walking to a well or whatever. Please thank about it...
Hi Lisa! Thanks for the suggestion!
Thank you one & all. Desalination requires alot of energy not only to move/pump the water but to remove the salt. But hormones, pharmaceuticals, caffeine, complex phosphates, forvever chemicals, biologicals & more still remains. Let's talk.
I live in northeast mexico, the water from my city, and I believe the whole state, comes from the river (Santa Catarina River) that cuts the city, and a few other dams around the state.
There have been some years were there have been droughts and some people stop getting enough water. It fortunately has never affected my family and me, but it's still an awful thing that some families have had to endure (I even remember that a neighborhood in the rich part of the city got their water cut from a drought once). Apparently last year we had the worst drought in years. Let's hope more action is taken in that issue, the more I think about it the stranger it is for me that it's still happening when we are aware of the problems.
Sorry for the not so fun story. Ok bye.
This is indeed alarming and there needs to be a sustainable solution for this issue! 🚰💧
There was one company in Mexico City that is selling a method of collecting rainfall and cleaning it in house to serve the needs of the property owner.
It's so thought and definitely we need new technologies to be able to survive rising heat
Terra Mater, I really hope your trial is successful. Greetings from Cornwall.
1) Heat from nuclear to desalinate
2) John P. Craven devised a system where cold water from beneath the ocean was pumped into a set of cooling coils. Ambient air was passed over the coils and clean water would condense off the pipes.
Solar dome looks like solar triangle house.
In some remote islands in Indonesia, we use solar triangle house.
I gotta research that but there are no videos on it 🤷♀️
I live in an area dependent on snow melt generated rivers and deep wells. My valley has continued to grow in population and dwindle in water resources. I think the local government prefers to steal water from across a mountain pass, than face the real issue.
I've thought of doing this for a while..we could make the whole southwestern US an amazing place to live.
Wouldnt it be awesome if somehow they could combine this with the solar tower power plant design and use one place to make clean water AND power at the same time?
all they have to do is add turbines to the steam pipes
The sun doesn’t make enough hear like burning feul
@@snowmarron4859 What?