Vikram Sampath (politely) decimates Shashi Tharoor's apologia for Marxist historical propaganda
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- Leading Indian historian Dr. Vikram Sampath (politely & lucidly) decimates Dr. Shashi Tharoor's meek capitulation to the neo-colonial propaganda of Marxist 'historians'
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Dr. Sampat should head the Dept. of History writing
There are others such as Dr Meenakshi Jain ( a professional history researcher), Sanjeev Sanyal, J Sai Deepak, etc. The government just needs to create a good panel to write history based on facts and primary evidences which they seem to be going way too slow on.... educational reformation is urgently needed.
My blood boils when they glorify our invaders. Why exactly has the BJP not attempted to change our history books in 7 years? Without reading history we can't relate it to current affairs as well. The Islamic invasions have existed throughout 1400 years. Same pattern. It was Mughals,Lodis and Khiljis before and now it's the Taliban and the ISIS. We should know the correct history in order to learn from it,make peace with it and move on
Because it is useful to the BJP to keep Hindus perpetually angry. It knows that it can get away with lethargy because the Hindus fear, rightly so, the return of the dark days under Congress. Both parties are sell-outs to the metaphorical devil.
"If you tell a lie often enough, people will believe the lies" This statement is good for today! Any agenda, you can prove as truth by speaking lies against it!
Someone has to write those books, with the High School Curriculum in mind, and what about the teachers - what background do they have in the understanding of history and the twisted narratives that can be extracted and lit in the light of the dominant narrative of the colonialist hangover. It has taken nearly 75 years to rebuild self-confidence to the point where the majority are questioning and interrogating these distorted ‘Histories’. The re-claiming by India, or rightly, Bharat, of its own heritage is at a breakthrough point, so hold fast, stay true! This is YOUR Dharma.
Greatly presented by Mr. Sampath on how Indian history was distorted
NCERT should be demolished
After reading Savarkar's story of his life sentence in Andaman in my school days, I am still in awe of the great visionary that our nation needs to re-think and adopt for the existence of our nation and making it a strong country.
Even Batukeshwar Dutt was jailed in Andaman. He never wrote mercy petition. Savarkar even after coming out of jail He supported britishers..
@@himesh5869 read Savarkar's biography and writings.
Not Dutt, Savarkar was the brain that the British tried desperately to crush and also later the Congress till the end of his life.
@@shivprasadjoshi5280 savarkar asked hindus to serve british army during war. He even opposed quit India movement after coming out of jail.
Now think again, will Brits really wanted to crush an ally?
Good understanding, keep it up.
👍☺️........
Tharoor has colonial mindset but projects himself as some one who is not in awe with the British. He doesn't mind moghal invasion and rule and states that they stayed on here.
So you mind. Ok. Then what? Accept it and move on.
One is at a loss to understand what is Tharoor's agenda. To which galary he is playing - the so called hypocritical secularists?
Very difficult to understand the theory which Tharoor puts forward that Mughals spend their loot in India instead of hauling it away. Doesn’t he understand, it would have been very difficult to do that, and inspite of that they did share some of the loot with Middle Eastern rulers. Would Tharoor say the same thing if his own wealth was looted and the looter becomes his neighbor and didn’t take the loot far away. Even worse, if members of his family were dishonored, would he have been happy, that they are still living in his neighborhood. Such a sellout and traitorous mentality he has. He is continuing the tradition of many traitors of Bharat in the past, such Manasingh of Jaipur.
Sadly to say he is the our MP.
People here are out of their minds.
He doesn't know of the loot taken on elephants after stealing the treasures from Indian temples and transported to Arabia. The 1000s of Hindu women and children were taken to the same place to be sold as slaves, after raping them. This man sounds like a big pseudo. British unified India, gave us an infrastructure, administrative, legal, educational systems. what did the moguls did? Tax Hindus with Dhimmie taxes loot our temples destroyed them too. I thank the British and abhor the Moghuls. Building wedding cake-style Taj-like buildings is not all that of a great thing.
Well said
He is your typical sickular Congressman.. expect nothing but the worst from people like him...btw, Nehru was the grand daddy of such thinking
@@nagee76 A person who pretends to be a scholar is a big pseudo. this began right from the top
As a student I was always haunted by why we need such detailed study of Rulers & their lifestyles in our history books
Our history books conveniently ignored the actual heroes of our Nation
Man we are always taught of the two Battles of Tarain which led to Delhi sultanate but never of the Battle of Kayadara in which Ghori was defeated by a warrior Queen- Naikidevi. This is just one instance of so many distortions and misrepresentations of our history- I mean once was a time, I used to believe that Akbar really was great without knowing of Fathnama i Chittorgarh.
It was done on purpose...it was to inculcate a slave mentality amongst Indians even after all our freedom struggles..
The problem of left wing Marxists running the education system is universal and one of the consequences of that is the terrible distortion of history and unbalanced detailing of the facts...it has been a much worse problem in India and the US in the last 50 years.
@@nagee76 these left wing Marxists in india are not the same as the ones in the west and we shouldnt refer the colonised indian slave as such but who kisses the feet of far-right wing or far left wing in the west.Degrade them as such and mock them as such
@@seemaseema9720 im not into this low caste hight caste western constructs so it has no relevence to which Hindu is what 'caste' a Portuguese defintion to me
@@seemaseema9720 Actually the western construct im refering to is your brain which a colonial overflown toilet of defining the hindu civiisation .Its all varnas/jathis that are the real heroes and heroines of that civilsation.
We should launch a national level competition based on books recommended by Citti like organization . This competion shall be on lines of Maths , Physics Olympiads; at village to international level.
It's a great idea. It will be for children of every age to college-going youth..
Sounds like my history class in 7th & 8th standard ICSE boards where there were dedicated chapters to Chola dynasty and the Rajputs and Marathas etc but our teacher only taught us the slave dynasty and the lodhis and what not. Basically, the history related to Northern India (I am from the North of India). Kanishka was just a paragraph I guess.
It was not like NCERT where there are no dedicated chapters itself, those books in the ICSE were thick for 7th-8th standard. It was just that our teacher used to omit those chapters by saying "not in the syllabus". But we were just kids, we were happy, the lesser the better.
I wish I still had those books so that I could read those chapters. 🤣
In order to lessen the syllabus, NCERT took a chance and introduced alternate history I guess. "Too lengthy a syllabus you say? You shall not die... here! Shorter books with alternate historical facts. Enjoy."
The irony! They omitted the better parts of our history whilst using the demands of parents and students alike as a shield.
The Vijayanagar Empire lasted almost as long as the Mughal empire. What do we learn of Vijayanagar? Hardly anything. Except the downfall.
Tharoor and Nehru have so much in common,from weakness for the fairer sex, to love for Marx.
He is jihadi supporter also
And hatred towards Hindu's
I always thought Tharoor was a liberal but now it looks like he is Marxist. He plays a smart game, whilst he does criticise the British colonization of India, he then claims the Mugals were not colonizers because they 'lived in India and became Indian' , a very twisted argument that does not take into account the suffering of millions under the Mugal rule.
In short, Tharoor is bigot and should not be given air time or relevance.
Yes you are absolutely true Shashi is a talking toy with colonial mindset still fooling some Indian population!
@@kondaveetichinnarao5170 He does not have a colonial mindset, he is a liberal elite which is far more dangerous. He is the type whose friends will include George So*ros, Bi*ll G*ates (all anti Modi, anti Trump, anti Putin) etc.
Sir he is a jihadi and marxist false which is dangerous to human society. He is at best philander? He is accused of murdering a womenalso but escaped law somehow!!!!
Its about vote bank of Muslims
We call Tharoor a coconut Brown on the outside but white on the inside
Really disappointed by BJP govt for not bringing the educational reforms yet.
Too busy with Yojana this Yojana that ..Yojana everywhere but nowhere
Yes, lots to do for the BJP, but priorities re correction of our History, and stern rule of law missing and protection of Hindu rights.. ... disappointed 🙏
@@OptimumConsulting correct 👍🏻 Modi is busy meditating on his new yoga mat , his sidekick HM is busy with IPL Tamasha now that his son is in charge of BCCI!! Meanwhile few business bastards called farmers showed and shoved their collective mid fingers in the butts of BJP stalwarts . Didi is thumping her fist at Modi’s face, Shiva Sena is slowly but surely destroying Maharashtra but our Modi is picture of calmness and continues to waffle!
@@vish2553 hate those comments but sppear to be true. the criminals of pre 2014 are either ruling through fear and violence or damaging india
Give BJP time. They will do it. There is so much the are already doing and what ever they want to implement, Congress creates riots and protests to waste their time and pull them back by 10 steps.
Who is this young man we need to hear more from him please!🙏 I also need the link for those books link to read despite of being a septuagenarian, thank you.🙏
He is not young.
@@harveyspecter1855 Bhai, Rahul Gandhi is "young leader", Tejaswi Yadav is "Young leader", Shri Rajeev Gandhi was a "Young Prime Minister", to fir Vikram Sampath ji bhi young historian huwe na? 😃😃
@@harveyspecter1855 I gather he must be in his thirties.
@@harveyspecter1855 I don’t think you clearly understood my comment either you didn’t read full well or have difficulty in understanding.
You must be a younger person with a chip on the shoulder beware someone will flick it off for you in an inopportune moment!
@@SamvedIyer 41, I think. Middle aged.
very intense research and revealing discourse...always found our history alien...well done young scholar
I am glad I learnt history of India from my parents and not the school books even though my marks fell .
Absolutely Right Sir
Our Real History should be taught in schools
The complete curriculum on ancient/medieval and current history is distorted by appointed by historians by communists to whom the queen transferred powers to run India on her behalf..... that's why I say Kangana is right when she made the statement
I gather that when Tippu attacked the Zamorin(for the second time) a second front as created by some chieftains from Palghat . And that Tharoor samooham as one of them!!
@@bmniac incidentally I couldn't read any such things in history so far. Tharoor is a village with May be about 15-20 houses those days... means a population of approximately 350-400. Being Nair's few of them too might have joined the fight.....
I agree, this fellow asked Kangana to read our history, he has read the filth created by Romila Thapar and Nehru, the anti-nationals
We have amazing forts in Maharashtra but I was blown away imagining the former beauty and current destruction of Hampi. Not sure why Kannadigas dont feel so proud of it. The same problem I think.
Kannadigas are very proud of their language and history, but are not very vocal about it. Karnataka is the place where the first Hindu temples were built. Both the Dravida and Nagara styles originated there. See Vatapi, Badami and Aihole. We must thank Vijayanagar for saving Hinduism in South India.
Read book “Brainwashed Republic” by Neeraj Atri and Munieshwer A Sagar on this topic
Truth is a tool for nation building. History is not a tool for nation building
Very well explained Shri Sampathji. Thank you Citti for the amazing work that you are doing for rejuvenating our true Indian culture. I hope that you will also have translations in various Indian languages so that it reaches the masses and leads to a revolution at the grassroot levels 🙏🙏
Vikram Sampath, you must publish that research about the omissions and distortions as a book 👍🏻
I was born in Southern part of India but had read more of mugal rulers.But no idea about the local rulers who where real warriors.
It's the same everywhere 😑😑we don't know about our ancestors and history other than the most preached fact that hindus are weak and accomodating
How can we get the 40 page list of distortion of history.
Well celebrate Tippu jayanti and make kilafat moment part of our freedom struggle---- The height of hypocrisy is when Gandhi and
nehru asked Indians to join British Indian Army but wants to save the ottaman empire... LOL
Tipu Sultan was hero of Apj Abdul Kalam...
Are you saying Apj Abdul kalam Communal?
@@sanilyadav1450 From where did u get that notion ? Tippu sultan killed numerous locals , ask the Malabar s 😤.
Anyway doesn't matter if he was hero for APJ , communal ? Y would that make APJ communal?
I am surprised Shashi Tharoor actually said that History is tool for National Building.😂😂
I bought and read a history book created for the senior classes in TN. It made such dreary reading, I’m not surprised children don’t like history at all.
*What BJP Govt. is Doing ??? Me Must Use All Kinds of Social Media Platforms to Build Pressure on BJP Govt. to Rewrite History Books.*
As a CBSE student I really regret the history I read in school
Actually, Congress did not just brush many terrible things under the carpet. So many atrocities which they not just abetted and whitewashed but actually perpetrated have emerged but are yet to gain the deserved exposure, even as they pose as a Mahatma's Ahimsa Party.
We are indebted to Maharana Pratap and Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj to remain in Sanatan Dharma.
The less shashi Tharoor talks the better . His argument for an academic is so poor so mush so that he epitomises the typical politician .
This video comes at such a timely moment in my life. My teen had history exam today and while we were going thru the book, I had many doubts that are discussed here. There is no point in looking forward for the books to change. Can someone tell me some spot or channel which is like a treasure trove of the facts of our glorious past. I would like the kids to learn what actually took place rather than read some cheap fictional tool “that was used to build a nation” bakwaas!
Hopefully by the next decade history books will have substantial material which makes children proud of their country . The coming generations must know what India was all about
They say that Mughals ruled India at some point of time, but as I know Mughals never ruled South India, like Mysore , Southern Tamilnadu and Kerala.
Vikram is correct
Yes, Delhi history dominates national curriculum. Regional history is obscured and remains in the state text books. Sad.
When the Hell will there be a formalized White paper on the entire issue of Rediscovering our History ? It is time that a nation wide movement is started via public pressure. We need Court intervention to re-assess the harm that has been heaped on our Consciousness. The civilisational crime caused to us must be demolished right in the open.
The Moplah Genocide of Hindus in 1921in Malabar is portrayed as a Class war and as an anti-colonial struggle by Secular Left historians.
I recall my history text tooks & all i remember was glorification of our invaders, Babur & Mughals. & its astonishing that This hasn't changed even in 2021. What is modi government doing? Such complacency its infuriating
Modi govt faces protest from hindu sickulars 😂 anytime they try to bring a reform or bill hindus infested with sickularism' are front line warriors to ensure that so called minority doesn't feel hurt
The word for History ( His story) in Sanskrit is Itihaasa, which means that this is the way it happened. That is open to interpretation. For these marxists to advocate their view, there is nothing wrong, but to claim that only their viewpoint is correct and other viewpoints are wrong is totally against the hindu concept of "Tarka" or debate. Akira Kurosawa in his 50s masterpiece movie " Rashomon" has proved how several people saw the same incident and gave different interpretations. That is the same way with History. As far as i am concerned, the Nehruwadis and Congress have done more harm and loot in India than 300 years of british colonial rule.
LOL - It has been well-established for decades that History is open to multiple interpretations. However, some interpretations may be completely unjustifiable given lack of evidence, lack of regard for facts etc. Your final sentence shows a disregard for facts as the British did not rule for even 200 years let alone 300 - in some places less than 100 - Bengal was conquered in 1757 and the Sikh Empire in 1849. Furthermore, regardless of how bad you think Nehru and the INC were [I am not a Congress supporter] - where is your evidence for your final statement? Did the INC kill tens of millions of the poorest Indians by creating dozens of manmade famines - including the setting up of Death Camps which operated like the later Buchenwald etc. as occurred under the British? How did the INC manage to ferret away at least US$45 Trillion from India as the British did - can you supply the evidence? Did the INC rule result in no growth whatsoever in Indian GDP per capita as occurred in the entire period of British Rule. Did life expectancy for ordinary Indians fall 20% as in the 50 years between 1871-1921? Was India systematically deindustrialized and turned into a plantation producing raw materials for a foreign country which looted India's wealth......?
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All india hindu mahasabha hona chahiye.
Kashmiri pandit, Bangladesh hindus bhi ayenge.
Hindu narsangar ka baat hogi
Thank you.
Listening to the India Today Conclave discussion, my feeling was actually quite the converse of what the title of this video suggests! I thought that debate rounded itself off pretty nicely - with the 'Left', the 'Centre' and the 'Right' all coming together and actually AGREEING on certain core points of malaise!
Just as Mr. Tharoor 'revealed' that History was used as a tool for Nation-Building, in the aftermath of Independence, Mr. Sampath similarly declared that History has ALWAYS been the "handmaiden" of Politics!
For me, the take-home from that rather interesting debate was really the assertion of the age-old quagmire of modern Indian life - POLITICS has it's finger in every damned pie, and that is the CRUX of the problem!!!
Thanks
No to Dynastic politics. Never vote a political party controlled by the family
Very nicely explained
Epic slaughter in the sweetest and politeness ! Doffing hat to you Vikram ji!
Into india
Absolutely right
He makes a pretension of being an English scholar by searching for archaic words in English and uttering them before audiences many fools are impressed. He accuses British rule, but he held some good positions internationally because of his knowledge of English. As to history, he has read the muck dished out by commie so-called historians like Thapar at the behest of our anti-Hindu, pro-mughal Nehru. He came from the same district as I do, but he is not a Tharoor really.
Okay, but what is being done to correct the history books?
No sound. Sorry we cannot hear you.
I want to buy this speaker's book. How do I get hold of it.
We keep talking talking talking all these years even after a right wing govt in power,it’s so frustrating why this govt does not change our text books when we keep hearing these voices coming from all over ……
I feel like burning such books...
🙏👏☺️ well said Vikram!
It is about time, we are showing the importance of the actual history and not what we actually have
Excellent content
We debate about history when current affairs is screwed up by ruling Central govt
#BOYCOTTCONGRESS
It is good to see intellectually dishonest people like Shashi T and others like him are being demolished by Vikram Sampath, J Sai Deepak, Sanjiv Sanyal and others.
We wish the host to not interfere with the speaker when they are expressing their opinion.
The punishment for such a stabbing your own by these NCERT people in those days would have been disposition to a different country that does not have food or water.
Common sense and still it does not get fixed! Mughals and all those tyrants can in no way be justified for they literally disrespected the fundamental fabric of this place!
As for me i liked only ancient Indian History and simplly omitted Mughal and British rule of India and never answered those questions .As Gepgraphy was coupled with History in my school days I scored more than reqired marks scoring cent percent in Geograhy! Dr.Vikram Sampath is telling the correct version.
Seems like Arfa Khanum wrote the NCERT books :P
Mr. Angalo-Farrago never made any sense.🤣🤣
It is high time that history syllabus is to be modified with realistics of our past glory of Hindu kings and our great ancient culture and stop vote bank politics adopted by Congress which had autocratic rule of one family from one generation to another generation
Those who wrote fake history should be thrown in jail.
All 70 years cancer diagnosed by sampath sir
Tharoor is an intelligent fool !!
3 salutes to Bikram Sampath !!
For Tharoor Aurangazeb Tippu are heroes who supported Hinduism and were role models. According to Tharoor anyone who does not accept Tharoor"s view is not a Hindu
Gujju No 2 #Modi is too busy dreaming of becoming #VishwaGuru......
NCERT History books = Romila Thapar's version of British Fictional history books...
Misogyny and caste discrimination were absent in Sanatan. This is why our itihas is written by the so called dalits, and our greatest emperors, the Nandas and the Mauryas, were also 'dalits' as per the modern definition. Discrimination came in with muslims who were from societies whose foundational sources of wealth were Slave Trade, hence their economy rested upon discriminatory dehumanisation. This is also why islam literally legitimises loot, arson, rape etc as it was the product of slave trader thinking. The long tenure of islamic rule made such practices the norm, much like the British rule normalised goverental callousness and cultural inferiority complexes. If a mere 200 years of the Brits could change our mindsets then imagine how potent 800 years of islamic barbarity would have been in altering Hindu society beyond all recognition. Even muslims, converted a mere 2-3 generations ago with utmost cruelty, have become staunch supporters of their tormentors and a prime example of the Stockholm Syndrome.
When you look at his accent, you would be a fool not to guess that Tharoor is modern day Gandhi !
Indians have been fooled massively by the West and Islamists
India's history has always been torn between civilisation builders and destruction by invading looters from the Yavannas, Haftali, Mahmud Ghazni, Timurids and Mughals- include Brits if you insist. Rather than look at history from the jaundiced prism of dialectics see instead actually whom had a deleterious effect on the subcontinent as far as dharma vs adharma behaviour is concerned.
Stop interrupting him.
Whatever tharoor speaks is correct 100 percent. He has a right to express his views . Because he is roaming scot-free in a country where he murdered his wife .
Sashi Tharoor says, Moghul invaded but they settled here so that’s all right. Can I invade Tharoor’s home and settle there, is he ok with that? Einstein said that human stupidity is infinite but so is hypocrisy, isn’t it Mr know-all Tharoor?
Maharana Pratap is not even mentioned
This fellow tharoor, is a intelectual thrash. He tends to overreact to his knowledge. Thus causing more harm to nation than any useful opinion for the betterment of our society, he is so much attached to his party as he had to appease his female boss to please her and retain his position to live on where he feels more secure in life and be safe. At this age he doesn't fit any where else.
Tharoor keeps changing sides 😁 opportunist
Tharoor is a wily and despicable politician
Tharoor the opportunist
Tharoor is a " sniffer".
Why talk about sashi
For that watch a debate between theRoor and Sampath.
I have lost respect of Shashi Tharoor. i get the impression he was a Muslim is his previous birth.
Vikram sampath a leading historian?
The best he could be described is a Savarkar apologist.
However he has a good knack of writing history, no doubt, but he had been selective in his book on Savarkar, bent some facts to suit his agenda,
Always gave his subjective and biased interpretations of Savarkar’s deeds.
Can't be said as a leading historian, because the amount of work historians do is immense.
Only if he could do such for many more matters only could he be called a leading historian.
He doesn't have an extensive bibliography to his name yet.
If you think he is a Savarkar apologist, then you're a salt brainwashed marxist
Strange India ! In Bangladesh we celebrate our Hindu , Buddhist & Muslim history & enjoy the diverse culture & traditions & all now are still part of us ! I feel india is not yet conferrable with their mixed DNA .., fist we have to be comfortable that we are what we are then make the counties richer with the DNA you have inherited ; focus future then hate & anger !
Who should focuss future? Pak and bangla? They have declared themself as Islamic Republic!!!! Which religion has highest number of terror outfits??? Who is going backward in time?
what % of Bangladesh is Muslim today? How was it in 1947?
Oh really?? How many Hindu families are there in your country.. You can count them with your fingers and you pointing out you are all treated equally good.. What we hypocrite you are.. You have no right to point fingers at our motherland for any cause.. Mind your business!!
But majority muslims in india have no central asian dna.
Lol! You are totally deluded.If that were indeed the case then, one would neither be witnessing the systemic violence against minorities nor the extreme religious fundamentalism displayed in Bangladesh. Also a fact check , our DNA is barely mixed ...it's true that large scale rape occurred during the Islamic invasions but forcible conversions of both men and women ensured that the genetic pool remained pretty much unchanged
Colonialism did more good than harm overall. !
Yes, more good for the British. Perhaps Britain should open up its borders and let the radical Islamists take over. I'm sure they too will do more good than harm.
No, it did not. It denied us access to our own cultural subjectivities through the imposition of an education system that, so long as colonial rule existed, was fit enough only to produce clerks.
Loyal dogs got crumbs & feel good about it blowing trumpet about glory of the Brutish looters...
colonialism is the chief reason of Bengal famine which killed millions... because the British were scared of imaginary Japanese invasion and thus snatched away food from poor indians and transported to Europe.... this kind of racism , bigotry and hate against natives is the only outcome of Colonialism