@@TheBeardedITDadI have cero idea where to start I’m currently dental assistant what classes should take the very first??? I will appreciate the response ty
I am 57 and trying to make a career change from truck driver. Just reading and learning all i can now. Love what I am learning and hope i can make the switch. I like the part of TRAVEL! I would like a job that allows travel.
@@TheBeardedITDadJust started following you man and that's great to hear as a 40 plus year old myself. I come from the heavy equipment tech trade and there is a ton of diag using various programs to trouble shoot various systems on engines these days.. I hope I can utilize my trade to make the pivot. ..Will start with compTIA and Google certificate.. Awesome Channel man..
It's very easy and simple. 1) Get some easy cert 2) Get a help desk job 3) While working help desk try to help anywhere you can 4) get more certs 5) Apply for more jobs after 6 months -1 year. Or ask your current place you want to go to a specific department (networking, operations etc.)
@@tigerfist5120 Good thinking! You can take Sec+ and then do some hands-on, learn tools like SIEM, EDR, Firewall etc, maybe do some tryhackme and build a home lab, use Kali Linux, Ubuntu, and a couple other VMs. Some network knowledge would be good like IP and other protocols, OSI model, how routers work etc.
Thank you! 42 year old Retired Army guy switching careers into IT and very excited! Starting A+ soon and want to start at a help desk ASAP to gain experience and work on certs simultaneously. Appreciate all this info. Very helpful!
It’s crazy to hear this guy say he got in at 9 months while all the sub Reddit’s say you gotta do years of IT work before even considering the security route. I hate the difference in information about these jobs.
Believe me, this dude is a huge outlier. Most people aren’t getting 3-4 certs in 6 months or taking multiple certs in one day. Dude was probably grinding till his hands went numb and his eyes developed blisters. Or he just has a really high aptitude for security
Research the company first. I work in IT, have a degree and you need experience because it's not something you can do in 9 months. It awful when these people misinform the average person. I can tell this person is honestly very rare. It's so much you have to learn to do security it's not something you can do in 9 months on average. That's a complete lie. I get calls and emails every day. There are so many different things you can do in computer science (pure computer science) and IT( information technology) are not exactly the same thing. That's why you need a degree. The truth is learning everything takes years. You will never know everything. You specialize in a particular area and it' takes time to learn about computers hardware and software. I've done both. I don't like getting my hands dirty so I like software and I never have to go into an office. It takes hard work, studying and a lot and often. I love to learn for the money. Just being honest. Cloud computing is interesting and is in high demand. Look at an example of resumes for that exact role. Write a functional resume. One PAGE. It usually is scanned by a computer not a person. Put the top 3-5 skills at the top of the resume. Speaking with good grammar. If you don't have excellent grammar, sorry. These men have good grammar and are well spoken. As a company recruiter I want to know if you have experience with the skillset that we are looking for in our company. I hope this Currently have worked in Technology since 1997. Hope this helps.
I ran across this interview on you tube. I have been interested and looking into cyber security as a field. I am GREATFUL I ran across this content. It has given me a lot to think about and work towards. I subscribed and liked genuinely and am going to be binging the rest of your stuff taking notes. So much I never would have considered that I'm actively working on now. Thnx Ben
This could not have released at a better time. Love your story too. Im also a bored blue collar guy looking for a change. No experience but im ready for something new. Will be binging your videos for the next several days
I'm a 19 year old that graduated high-school last year. I'm currently working at my local sign and wrap shop which recently hasn't made me happy. I want to get into cyber security specifically to be a security analyst. I keep seeing everyone talk about how a degree is almost obsolete yet every company requires it or 5+ years. I'm lost on how to get said experience if every job wants so much experience or college. Videos like this make it look so quick and easy. But it helps me see I'm not so alone.
Thank you again Dakota! The was fun and Im so happy I was able to help share and provide value to many others! I would love to schedule a future podcast episode with you!
@knowFatigue your passion is inspiring and I look forward to seen your very own channel. ❤ please kindly share your instagram I would definitely love to be part of your journey, I believe I will learn a lot from you.God speed 🎉
This dude is the definition of the grind it until you own it mindset. I’m a former paramedic that went from boot to station chief in about 10mo because I NEVER stopped learning. As a supervisor, I was never in the office. I was always monitoring radio traffic and going to calls for scenes I had never worked as a medic, and never as a supervisor. “Can I carry something?” “Can I run vitals?” I always approached my crew as an added hand, not an iron fist of judgment. If I had questions or comments, I’d make a randomized scenario to run with the ENTIRE station AFTER pulling the crew aside to ask questions privately. It was usually to learn some hive wisdom, not to criticize… unless their logic train derailed. I’m looking into either cybersecurity or networking for my next stable career choice and these videos gives me a good idea of how to evaluate my own talents and interests to find the route I can grind away at. I’m happy to see tech guys that are good at what they do have a similar mindset.
Been an Electrician for a decade, before that I did communications in the Military and learned quite a bit about IT (enough to really break something good and not know how to fix it HAHA). I am interested in learning more about operational technologies and how to secure them. I really enjoy your content and appreciate your background as a heavy equipment operator, it makes me feel less alone on this move I am going to make.
Thanks for putting this out there man. My story sounds similar to yours. College dropout (Electrical Engineering). Ended up working construction and making some immature life decisions and now I'm hoping to get my foot in the door in IT. Hope I can come back in a few years and share a success story 🙏
I'm a 39 year old non native English teacher who got fed up of the discrimination I get for not being native, so I've just started the Google cybersecurity course because I'm looking forward to change to this profession. Listening this interview gives me hope because time is something I can't spare anymore. Thanks
I left a good paying job because my last boss was racist as f lol . I am stuck in between 2 choices . Either trucking/ CDL or IT / cybersecurity. Hope you get what you’re looking for and let me know if it works for you . I’m on level 0 as of now but will be working to get the certs .
@@wunna5680 sorry about the racist boss mate, r u on the same Google cybersecurity course? I'm finishing course 4 and they explain pretty well. I'll let you know how it goes but I'm assuming this certificate it's not gonna be of much use for impressing a company. My plan was to do security+, some python certification and comptia sec+ and then, to try my luck in a remote entry level job so I can start getting some experience
@@wunna5680 hi. I was a trucker over the road. In keeping my CDL because u can go anywhere anytime and get work ASAP if u can report to work with in 4hours or 1day at the last minute. I am now seeking to cyber security immediately. I can work from anywhere. Good luck with your decision 😊
Thank you for having David on your show! The info from both of you is super helpful! I just started the Google cybersecurity certification and have been doing some research about the route I should take and all the resources I will need. I will definitely have to rewrite my resume now!
I am just now getting into IT self studying right now trying to get my security Plus certification no background in it at all I graduated high school in year 2022 and really just been working 9 to 5's for the last year or so and making music but I want to go further into my music career but I need money lol and I just would like to be free from the retail and fast food places this interview is helping alot
I’m just starting out. Still relatively young at 28. Making a career change after a workplace injury that stops me from working blue collar. This channel has been a godsend in showing me a path to supporting my family in the future.
I just discovered your page today. I’m working on a career transition into cyber and the info in this video is invaluable! You’ve got a new subscriber. I can’t wait to watch more of your content
I loved this video! Great discussion points and I'm eager to learn from some of the best minds on this platform. I recently started my Bachelors degree as a defense analyst. I started out in the helpdesk and office IT areas. I'm looking to grow my knowledge and networks. You're my true inspiration. Keep up the great work, I love your content!
Same here, was working in BA/PM in software development for 26 years, got laid off last year, travelled a bit with my dog, and since last week grinding on Google Cybersecurty and few certs and career change. I am 50 years old…and feels like I am ready for a big career change and still in Technology. I am looking for a mentor so I can be guided …where can i find one? I have posted this request for mentor on LinkedIn , no response.
This was so informative. Wow. Thanks guys. These tips are very applicable and seems like they would yield positive results in breaking into IT or Cybersecurity.
Pls where can I get where to get some project down to upskill my cybersecurity hand on keyboard I am currently studying Coursera certificate an I will be done very soon
The only thing I would add is knowledge of the Applicant Tracking System, or ATS, and how to defeat it. Consider your encounters with HR and Technical Interviewers as Social Engineering. You want in. And usually they want you in, too. They posted the opening after all. Only you can fail at it.
Absolutely, Thats why i tell people even if you are just studding for an certification put that on your resume. say something along the lines like (Currently Studding for the CompTIA Security+) It will get you past all the ATS systems and into the hands of hiring managers.
You should plan for your retirement on your own too, just look an the news in the last 20 years, every employer backed retirement fund was under paid and mismanaged. Don't trust them.
Great interview and great information! I appreciate the authenticity of the material. There is a lot of info out there and it’s hard to decipher at times for me, I’m interested in tech and want to get started not just for the money but the work life balance. I will re-evaluate my steps I was looking to take.
You've just gotten a new subscriber… great video! I'm 36 and I have a career in Operations Management however tech is my passion and I'm really wanting to make a career change. Are there any online study groups for cybersecurity or any forums that anyone could point me in the direction of?
There are tones.. most commonly Ive found them on discord.. also check out Spiceworks and Lawrences systems has great forums.. also alot of training company's will have online forums.. LinkedIn has a few but alot of thoughs can be over ran with people trying to sell you stuff.
Pre Internet, 1980's pre PC, my Dad who was a CPA cut out a job listing from the newspaper, stapled it to a letter and hand wrote "I meet all the fore mentioned requirements." He never went to the interview, it always makes me laugh when I think about it. They must have been like, "oh we gotta meet this guy!"
I didn't expect much from this interview but after giving it a chance, I enjoyed and learned quite a bit from the interview. Thank you. I'm torn between Cybersecurity & Software QA Analyst. Do you know or have you heard of any QA courses out there? I'm currently in Collections & I need to Pivot into something I know that I would like. Any assistance/suggestion you would like to share would be appreciated.
This was a great interview. I am a Computer Support Analyst L2. I am currently studying for my security + cert. I see a lot of changes happening at the company I work for and I am getting myself prepared for the shift. A lot of gems in this video. He is right, Cybersecurity is not an entry level job. Help desk phone support is. Help desk technician are limited to what they can do. They do not have access to certain tools that can fix an end user’s issue. On top of that, they can only be on the phone for a certain amount of time. Keep up the good work. ✌🏾
at 7:00 he says Cyber Security is not an entry level. No company will invest in you. Thats where I leave the video. Dont gatekeep cybersecurity lots of people i know have gotten into cybersecurity with no prior experience not even IT experience.
I urge you to continue to listen. I am not gate keeping cybersecurity. Nor am I looking to complain or argue. I am merely stating the existing environment and the atmosphere. Companies are most often... looking for candidates that already have a baseline of IT and Cybersecurity skills and knowledge. That's what I mean by Cybersecurity is NOT entry level. It's a myth and its dishonest. Can you have "entry cyber roles" yes. But even THOSE roles are more "mid-level" in terms of IT knowledge and skills in general. So what I'm saying is, you will more than likely HAVE to upskill and SELF teach yourself a lot... It's rare and truthfully it's unrealistic to expect that companies will "sponsor" your learning, training, etc AND pay you a decent salary
This is what works for me... I dislike physical reading. I LOVE video courses. So Udemy, Pluralsight, CBTNuggets, ACloudGuru, these are some of my favorite learning platforms to prepare for most certifications... I play videos on 1.5x-2.0x speed. For whatever reason, I can pay attention better and of course I get done the video course in a shorter amount of time Then, I find practice exams and I GRIND THEM. Repetition is the mother of skill. I'll do a bundle of practice exams, 2, 3, even 4 times until I'm consistently scoring above 90%.
I am 22 years old and currently studying for my CCNA and loving it so far! I plan on building a home network and taking the interview advice that you and Kieth gave out in your interview with him. (Kieth from CBT nuggets) I plan on trying to jump straight into the IT field and I know that cybersecurity is not the right place to get my first job seeing as I will not be well equipped for that role. Do you think that the CCNA is a helpful foundation for cybersecurity?
Thank you so very much for this video. I have been watching so many vidoes on Cybersecurity. Well over 100 vids. This video have been the best I have watched by far and I have gotten soo many notes. David did a great job with details, thank you. This level of details have been lacking in most of the vids I have watched. Would love for you 2 to do more vidoes together.
I’ve watched a few of your videos. I will be starting at the local votech for IT soon. Was curious if my background in satellite tv would be of any benefit in IT. May be a dumb question since IT is such a broad field.
I'm doing the cyber security certification through Google. Is there anything I need to add to my resume as far as certifications ? Also where can I start to get experience or some work under my belt
Watching your channel literally just stopped me from making a huge mistake and paying money for another degree. I've been battling that burning question degree vs. certs? I'm having some doubts about my resume writing for today's market. Can you help with this?
Had a job for about 15 years in the telecommunications industry. Went back to college for IT about half way through college, landed a job as an IT support engineer. Was support engineer for about 2 years. At the same company took on a new position as technical alignment engineer. Did that for about 8 months. Along the way I got my net+, sec+, CySA+, other cloud certs and training. Was very blessed to only apply to one cybersecurity position at a company that I wanted to work for, and was the top candidate. Along the way I would always see RUclips videos of how to break into the cybersecurity field quickly, but it typically always consisted of applying to thousands of jobs to only land a job at a company that would likely cause burn out in the first 6 months to year and make you hate the cybersecurity field. Sometimes the fastest route isn’t always the best.
I am attending infromation technology services 2 year term. I am planning to work in Cyber Security areas. Do you recommend the certification for that specific job? Thank you ❤❤❤
I really want to transition from nursing to tech precisely cyber security but I feel like the tech world makes it so difficult for new people to come in. Like the whole hiring process is too mystified. I dont think its fair on people who are trying to come in fresh without experience. They ask for too much experience, how will i get the experience if you dont hire me. Also what I have noticed is most people lie on their resume to get in. Sad
Thank you so much for these videos they are incredibly useful. 6 years ago I was homeless and now I'm taking my Sec+ cert on friday and I am currently taking my last class in my bachelor's of cyber security. Figuring out how to get everything together for potential employers is just great. Keep up the good work!
Honestly enjoyed how informative this was and how brutally truthful he was in his answers and advice. I strongly agreed with the help yourself first advice before asking others for help. It’s ideal to have a career plan, learn the industry, and learn what exact role you’re trying to get into. I’m taking google’s coursera courses right now and soon will be studying for my security+. I thought maybe I should wait until after I’m certified to apply for jobs but I went ahead and started applying for help desk/support, or even entry level & jr security analyst positions. I will continue to utilize my linkedin and network more. Keeping my fingers crossed! Thanks for this video.
@ms_gy you really should consider passing Sec+ first before the Google Cybersecurity course and I only say this because the google course helps reinforce what you studied to pass the Sec+. It should be noted that Courses 7 and 8 are zero help in your Sec+ studies and are quite long. (Python scripts, and Job preparation). Minus spending a lot of time on SQL, courses 1 - 6 have some use but you’re better off making these two credentials as separate goals and not mixed. Coursera course is more about learning the basics and a small fraction of what can be used in a job of cyber security. Security+ you’re mainly studying to pass an exam. It’s two different approaches of study. Also, do not rely only on the Coursera course to pass Sec+. It didn’t cover everything I thought I saw on the exam itself.
I’m discovering similar things with resume writing. I have not written nor used a resume myself for over 20 years. Trying to extract skills that I either acquired from my military service or picked up along the way the majority of these skills are not even remotely relevant for the jobs I’m targeting. I’m totally rebuilding my resume specifically targeting specific jobs. Yeah it may be a good idea to have a longer resume with the wide range of skills if it is getting posted somewhere that employers go into and find someone. If you’re submitting an application and a resume for a specific job it needs to target what the employer is looking for. Remove the other non relevant information.
I appriciate this video really trying to change my carreer and looking into remote work and have no experience but im gonnna give it a start and just find a outlet thank you guys for this
I truly appreciated this video. The genuine, transparent knowledge and advice was on point, and with no fluff. I’m interested in changing my career and looking in to Cyber Security or possibly I.T. This interview gave me a lot to further look in to and gain more knowledge in the direction that may be fit for me. Thanks for this video, and yes, I liked and subscribed lol. Thanks again.
Hellow I.T .I am a single mum of three and I had my first degree from computer science. Actually I have a degree and an ordinary diploma in computer science. During my project in ordinary diploma I had it in mind to write a project on cyber security. Actually then I didn't even know if there was anything like cyber security. But I just had the inspiration in me that I want to protect people or companies who have been facing security issues. I just had the feeling that I should create an app which can be used to protect this companies from all this problems. But I didn't have the knowledge or someone good enough to guide me. So I didn't continue with the project. But after my first degree I got to understand better and I knew of cyber security and I do really want to get there. So I will keep watching and I will always need guidelines. Thank you for your good work
Many aspects do carry over. There may be a bit of differences in Certification recognition. But overall, the skills, keywords, job descriptions should mostly be the same.
Hey Dakota. Excellent podcast. This was good info. Im new to the industry. I just started classes to get my bachelor's in IT with a focus in Cybersecurity and minor in Technological Entrepreneurship and Management. Im glad i found your channel
Glad that I found this channel. I’m new on this journey. Hopefully a few years from now I’ll come back to also share my successful story. Thanks for the enlightenment!
Hey there! So happy to hear that you found my channel helpful. You're not alone on this journey, my friend! We're all in it together. Don't forget to enjoy the ride and embrace the learning process. Trust me, you'll come back with an amazing success story in no time!
I hear people say all the time that certifications don't matter, what matters is what you can do. But those certifications teach you the skills and gives you the vocabulary. I think people need to look at certifications differently.
Im really struggling IT wise. I have an Associates Degree in Computer Science and have been trouble shooting computers and other tech for years but I can't even land a help desk job. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Only landed 2 interviews but said they wanted someone with work experience... for tier 1 or entry level help desk.
So much of good advice here, not only just the ideas, tips and tricks to use to get into the field of cybersecurity, but also just the professional advice of how to behave in a professional work environment, I wish I had this when I first started a job.
Another thought on college degrees. I don't have one. To me what really stands out is you put out the effort, you had it together enough to navigate that task, that journey. You know what it's like to survive on ramen noodles and still manage to accomplish...
Thank you both for this positive, constructive, and personable informative content ! I appreciate the time, energy and effort extended ! You made a great team & Each brought up a lot of great points and shared great case examples. Very cool !
For aspiring cybersecurity professionals, this interview is liquid gold. Very helpful, as a Marine veteran working on a cyber degree and studying for certifications looking for roles, I am conforted that the barrier for entry is not just in my own head.
definitely wouldn’t say the degree is worth nothing i think a lot of company’s ask for it the rubric i’ve heard is you need at least 2 out of 3 which is education, experience, and certifications if you have at least 2 of those 3 you can make it
I disagree I dont think you need any of thought if you have the right mind set and drive. I know this for a fact because when i got my start I was a college dropout, I had no experience and no certifications and was able to land an entry level job.
I was exaggerating. Degrees are useful and helpful. I meant more in the context of WHERE does your degree belong on your resume? It belongs very much so bottom or last page. It isn't high priority. You most likely will not receive an interview (which is the objective of the resume) due to your degree. There's not even an "IT Gold Standard" university. Like there's IVY league schools... there Wharton Business School.... but there isn't really anything super wide known for IT/Cloud/Cyber/Networking roles. And the IT Bearded Dad is surely correct. You don't "need' either. But I'd also like to mention how competitive everything is today... and how the "entry" standards most definitely have changed over time. Companies are asking for more and they are more SURE of what they want. What it took to get into IT/Cyber 2, 4, 5, 10 years ago is NOT the same today. 2023 and 2024 have been HORIFIC job markets and financial recessions which definitely isn't helping the job search experience for many new comers. Which is why I URGE to upskill and do MORE and try to become as much of a standout candidate as much as possible.
Thanks for the information I already have ITF+ and A+ some people say that you need network+ and other that you don’t needed. I should take that one or go to security+?
If you noticed, every job preferred a college degree. Yes, project and experience help, but a degree with a certification can give an applicant a better opportunity.
Agreed, for suer, every little bit helps. And having a college degree is another "check box" in your corner for possible consideration for an interview.
Not done yet with the video, not sure if he will specifically mention this, but what about this notion of everybody recommending/preaching to make it ULTRA SPECIFIC AND MEASURABLE as in "Reduced upcoming tickets in that area by 30%" or "Automated xx processes, that lead to savings of 30.3232$" .... I BET MOST OF THOSE PERCENTAGES OR NUMBERS ARE MADE UP......... Is that really necessary, tho it's most likely made up anyways? As if every Help desk dude or sysadmin or whatever knows the CONCRETE business impact his doings had..... Any Input on this issue? Please? 😀
I did try to elaborate on this exact bullet point. So Job Experience bullet points: 1) In general... if you CAN input metrics, numbers, dollar signs, percentages, or time reduced... its an AWESOME metric to add. Basically "I accomplished/did x by doing y and this achieved/resulted in z. 2) No its very difficult to come up with objective metrics for EVERY bullet point, I'm only recommending maybe 2-3 bullet points especially for the first one per job experience. Because again at the end of the day... you get paid for what you CAN DO. Not just listing meaningless tasks. So if you mention the BUSINESS IMPACT or the business RESULTS of your actions... that's the language of hiring managers and recruiters
my name is mike and i have a question for you. I am looking into a career change i have 15 years expereince in the plant automation side of things. cybersecurity really appeals to me. i am one that gets bored doing the same thing over and over. From the it side if things i am starting from scratch even though a lot of skills i have acquired are very similar. like the networking side of things. especially radios and i really have enjoyed the networking side. which was a lot of out calls as an E&I tech. As i understand help desk is where it all starts. what is the best way to get that first it paying job?
I am looking into going to IT security. I have no knowledge of tech. What are your thoughts on getting a B.A. in I.T? or is just getting a Cert. be enough?
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@@TheBeardedITDadI have cero idea where to start I’m currently dental assistant what classes should take the very first??? I will appreciate the response ty
@@TheBeardedITDad thank you 🙏
I am 57 and trying to make a career change from truck driver. Just reading and learning all i can now. Love what I am learning and hope i can make the switch. I like the part of TRAVEL! I would like a job that allows travel.
there are plenty of tech jobs out there with travel requirements. normally with extra travel you can negotiate higher salary.
@TheBeardedITDad are hiring older people in these fields? I have a good 15 years in the workplace left, and this field has excited me.
absolutely.. Age doesn't matter.. just your willingness to learn.
@@TheBeardedITDadJust started following you man and that's great to hear as a 40 plus year old myself. I come from the heavy equipment tech trade and there is a ton of diag using various programs to trouble shoot various systems on engines these days.. I hope I can utilize my trade to make the pivot. ..Will start with compTIA and Google certificate..
Awesome Channel man..
I’m 44 and on the same path dude… been trucking for 22 years
It's very easy and simple.
1) Get some easy cert
2) Get a help desk job
3) While working help desk try to help anywhere you can
4) get more certs
5) Apply for more jobs after 6 months -1 year. Or ask your current place you want to go to a specific department (networking, operations etc.)
How to start
easy certs lol
I dont want to do help desk. Aint there another way?
@@tigerfist5120 Good thinking! You can take Sec+ and then do some hands-on, learn tools like SIEM, EDR, Firewall etc, maybe do some tryhackme and build a home lab, use Kali Linux, Ubuntu, and a couple other VMs. Some network knowledge would be good like IP and other protocols, OSI model, how routers work etc.
@@tigerfist5120Software engineering
Thank you! 42 year old Retired Army guy switching careers into IT and very excited! Starting A+ soon and want to start at a help desk ASAP to gain experience and work on certs simultaneously. Appreciate all this info. Very helpful!
It’s crazy to hear this guy say he got in at 9 months while all the sub Reddit’s say you gotta do years of IT work before even considering the security route. I hate the difference in information about these jobs.
The norm is years of work but you can defiantly get in quicker.
Believe me, this dude is a huge outlier. Most people aren’t getting 3-4 certs in 6 months or taking multiple certs in one day. Dude was probably grinding till his hands went numb and his eyes developed blisters. Or he just has a really high aptitude for security
Research the company first.
I work in IT, have a degree and you need experience because it's not something you can do in 9 months. It awful when these people misinform the average person. I can tell this person is honestly very rare. It's so much you have to learn to do security it's not something you can do in 9 months on average. That's a complete lie. I get calls and emails every day. There are so many different things you can do in computer science (pure computer science) and IT( information technology) are not exactly the same thing. That's why you need a degree. The truth is learning everything takes years. You will never know everything. You specialize in a particular area and it' takes time to learn about computers hardware and software. I've done both. I don't like getting my hands dirty so I like software and I never have to go into an office. It takes hard work, studying and a lot and often. I love to learn for the money. Just being honest.
Cloud computing is interesting and is in high demand. Look at an example of resumes for that exact role.
Write a functional resume. One PAGE. It usually is scanned by a computer not a person. Put the top 3-5 skills at the top of the resume.
Speaking with good grammar. If you don't have excellent grammar, sorry. These men have good grammar and are well spoken.
As a company recruiter I want to know if you have experience with the skillset that we are looking for in our company. I hope this Currently have worked in Technology since 1997.
Hope this helps.
I ran across this interview on you tube. I have been interested and looking into cyber security as a field. I am GREATFUL I ran across this content. It has given me a lot to think about and work towards. I subscribed and liked genuinely and am going to be binging the rest of your stuff taking notes. So much I never would have considered that I'm actively working on now. Thnx Ben
This could not have released at a better time.
Love your story too. Im also a bored blue collar guy looking for a change. No experience but im ready for something new. Will be binging your videos for the next several days
Thank you let me know what you would like to see next.
I'm a 19 year old that graduated high-school last year. I'm currently working at my local sign and wrap shop which recently hasn't made me happy.
I want to get into cyber security specifically to be a security analyst. I keep seeing everyone talk about how a degree is almost obsolete yet every company requires it or 5+ years. I'm lost on how to get said experience if every job wants so much experience or college.
Videos like this make it look so quick and easy. But it helps me see I'm not so alone.
No offense, but only you make you happy. Do what you love. It goes up and down, but at least you'll love it.
The suggestion of keeping a positive attitude and the suggested language while negotiating a lowball offer is so helpful! Thank you for the insight!
Thank you
Thank you again Dakota!
The was fun and Im so happy I was able to help share and provide value to many others! I would love to schedule a future podcast episode with you!
Thank you ... We will defiantly have you back
@@TheBeardedITDad It will be great to follow his career as he grows!
@knowFatigue your passion is inspiring and I look forward to seen your very own channel. ❤ please kindly share your instagram I would definitely love to be part of your journey, I believe I will learn a lot from you.God speed 🎉
This dude is the definition of the grind it until you own it mindset.
I’m a former paramedic that went from boot to station chief in about 10mo because I NEVER stopped learning.
As a supervisor, I was never in the office. I was always monitoring radio traffic and going to calls for scenes I had never worked as a medic, and never as a supervisor.
“Can I carry something?” “Can I run vitals?” I always approached my crew as an added hand, not an iron fist of judgment. If I had questions or comments, I’d make a randomized scenario to run with the ENTIRE station AFTER pulling the crew aside to ask questions privately.
It was usually to learn some hive wisdom, not to criticize… unless their logic train derailed.
I’m looking into either cybersecurity or networking for my next stable career choice and these videos gives me a good idea of how to evaluate my own talents and interests to find the route I can grind away at.
I’m happy to see tech guys that are good at what they do have a similar mindset.
One of my all-time favorite interviews!
you have a great podcast bro, keep up the good work ✊🏾
Been an Electrician for a decade, before that I did communications in the Military and learned quite a bit about IT (enough to really break something good and not know how to fix it HAHA). I am interested in learning more about operational technologies and how to secure them. I really enjoy your content and appreciate your background as a heavy equipment operator, it makes me feel less alone on this move I am going to make.
Just want to Thank You both for taking time to give us this wealth of knowledge. It’s putting things in perspective for me. 🙏🏼
Our pleasure!
Thanks for putting this out there man. My story sounds similar to yours. College dropout (Electrical Engineering). Ended up working construction and making some immature life decisions and now I'm hoping to get my foot in the door in IT. Hope I can come back in a few years and share a success story 🙏
Same. Dropped out from mechanical engineering and trying to get my foot into cybersecurity
I will add having a job while looking for a job is a much more confident position to be in. Great video overall.
Very true
I'm a 39 year old non native English teacher who got fed up of the discrimination I get for not being native, so I've just started the Google cybersecurity course because I'm looking forward to change to this profession. Listening this interview gives me hope because time is something I can't spare anymore. Thanks
Im so glad this video could help... If cybersecurity is something your are truly interested you are going to love it!
I left a good paying job because my last boss was racist as f lol . I am stuck in between 2 choices . Either trucking/ CDL or IT / cybersecurity. Hope you get what you’re looking for and let me know if it works for you . I’m on level 0 as of now but will be working to get the certs .
@@wunna5680 sorry about the racist boss mate, r u on the same Google cybersecurity course? I'm finishing course 4 and they explain pretty well. I'll let you know how it goes but I'm assuming this certificate it's not gonna be of much use for impressing a company. My plan was to do security+, some python certification and comptia sec+ and then, to try my luck in a remote entry level job so I can start getting some experience
I was there and all i can say is dont let this opportunity pass.. this might be the only chance to follow your dream...
@@wunna5680 hi. I was a trucker over the road. In keeping my CDL because u can go anywhere anytime and get work ASAP if u can report to work with in 4hours or 1day at the last minute. I am now seeking to cyber security immediately. I can work from anywhere. Good luck with your decision 😊
I don't know what mic this guy David is using but he can read my obituary and I'd be smiling. What a voice. Oh the tech info is good also LOL
lol
He definitely has a masculine voice with bass😂
Thank you for having David on your show! The info from both of you is super helpful! I just started the Google cybersecurity certification and have been doing some research about the route I should take and all the resources I will need. I will definitely have to rewrite my resume now!
I'm glad you liked it. Keep it up
32 year old truck driver here trying to switch over. Glad to know I’m not alone.
that's so cool. keep up the amazing work
I’m a trucker and trying to make a switch too
Same lol
Same
33 yr old driver and decided to start the process two weeks ago.
I am just now getting into IT self studying right now trying to get my security Plus certification no background in it at all I graduated high school in year 2022 and really just been working 9 to 5's for the last year or so and making music but I want to go further into my music career but I need money lol and I just would like to be free from the retail and fast food places this interview is helping alot
I’m just starting out. Still relatively young at 28. Making a career change after a workplace injury that stops me from working blue collar. This channel has been a godsend in showing me a path to supporting my family in the future.
I'm watching this video twice & taking notes. Thanks for the information
Excellent! Glad it was helpful.
I just discovered your page today. I’m working on a career transition into cyber and the info in this video is invaluable! You’ve got a new subscriber. I can’t wait to watch more of your content
I loved this video! Great discussion points and I'm eager to learn from some of the best minds on this platform. I recently started my Bachelors degree as a defense analyst. I started out in the helpdesk and office IT areas. I'm looking to grow my knowledge and networks. You're my true inspiration. Keep up the great work, I love your content!
Thank you so much
I’m researching a career in cybersecurity now at 48 years old serious career change these videos are very informative and helpful I appreciate it
I'm glad to help
Same here, was working in BA/PM in software development for 26 years, got laid off last year, travelled a bit with my dog, and since last week grinding on Google Cybersecurty and few certs and career change. I am 50 years old…and feels like I am ready for a big career change and still in Technology. I am looking for a mentor so I can be guided …where can i find one? I have posted this request for mentor on LinkedIn , no response.
This interview was gold
This was so informative. Wow. Thanks guys. These tips are very applicable and seems like they would yield positive results in breaking into IT or Cybersecurity.
Black Rock? Um.. they literally own the world lol 😂
Very educative and quite engaging you just gave me a good idea on how to continue my cybersecurity security career
Im glad you found it helpful.
Pls where can I get where to get some project down to upskill my cybersecurity hand on keyboard I am currently studying Coursera certificate an I will be done very soon
Great interview. I am working breaking into cybersecurity and this can help for sure. Thank you.
If you haven't already check out this video. ruclips.net/video/wtF7O89RTTU/видео.html A bunch of great information about the cybersecurity field.
Thank you so so much this talk was so direct and honest and I really appreciate it! This was awesome!
The only thing I would add is knowledge of the Applicant Tracking System, or ATS, and how to defeat it. Consider your encounters with HR and Technical Interviewers as Social Engineering. You want in. And usually they want you in, too. They posted the opening after all. Only you can fail at it.
Absolutely, Thats why i tell people even if you are just studding for an certification put that on your resume. say something along the lines like (Currently Studding for the CompTIA Security+) It will get you past all the ATS systems and into the hands of hiring managers.
Good topic. Yeah there was just so much we could have spoken about that we just didn’t have enough time to shove it all within an hour.
I know
You should plan for your retirement on your own too, just look an the news in the last 20 years, every employer backed retirement fund was under paid and mismanaged. Don't trust them.
Great interview and great information! I appreciate the authenticity of the material. There is a lot of info out there and it’s hard to decipher at times for me, I’m interested in tech and want to get started not just for the money but the work life balance. I will re-evaluate my steps I was looking to take.
Teaching in tech is so much fun! not everyone is cutout for it but if that is something you are interested in go for it!
Great interview. Tons of helpful information on this video.
Great to hear!
No matter how good you think you are there’s always an Asian guy out there that’s just better than you. Gotta keep on grinding
amazing guest, thanks for sharing
Glad you enjoyed it
You've just gotten a new subscriber… great video! I'm 36 and I have a career in Operations Management however tech is my passion and I'm really wanting to make a career change. Are there any online study groups for cybersecurity or any forums that anyone could point me in the direction of?
There are tones.. most commonly Ive found them on discord.. also check out Spiceworks and Lawrences systems has great forums.. also alot of training company's will have online forums.. LinkedIn has a few but alot of thoughs can be over ran with people trying to sell you stuff.
@@TheBeardedITDad 👏 thank you! I joined a discord today and I believe I've found a couple of study buddies!
Epic
I guess I'm not the only truck driver looking for a life style change 😅
Amazing!
Pre Internet, 1980's pre PC, my Dad who was a CPA cut out a job listing from the newspaper, stapled it to a letter and hand wrote "I meet all the fore mentioned requirements." He never went to the interview, it always makes me laugh when I think about it. They must have been like, "oh we gotta meet this guy!"
I wish it was like that still.
I didn't expect much from this interview but after giving it a chance, I enjoyed and learned quite a bit from the interview.
Thank you.
I'm torn between Cybersecurity & Software QA Analyst. Do you know or have you heard of any QA courses out there?
I'm currently in Collections & I need to Pivot into something I know that I would like.
Any assistance/suggestion you would like to share would be appreciated.
Gained so much. Big help. Thank you.
Glad it helped!
This was a great interview. I am a Computer Support Analyst L2. I am currently studying for my security + cert. I see a lot of changes happening at the company I work for and I am getting myself prepared for the shift. A lot of gems in this video. He is right, Cybersecurity is not an entry level job. Help desk phone support is. Help desk technician are limited to what they can do. They do not have access to certain tools that can fix an end user’s issue. On top of that, they can only be on the phone for a certain amount of time.
Keep up the good work. ✌🏾
Thank you
at 7:00 he says Cyber Security is not an entry level. No company will invest in you. Thats where I leave the video. Dont gatekeep cybersecurity lots of people i know have gotten into cybersecurity with no prior experience not even IT experience.
I urge you to continue to listen.
I am not gate keeping cybersecurity. Nor am I looking to complain or argue. I am merely stating the existing environment and the atmosphere. Companies are most often... looking for candidates that already have a baseline of IT and Cybersecurity skills and knowledge. That's what I mean by Cybersecurity is NOT entry level. It's a myth and its dishonest. Can you have "entry cyber roles" yes. But even THOSE roles are more "mid-level" in terms of IT knowledge and skills in general.
So what I'm saying is, you will more than likely HAVE to upskill and SELF teach yourself a lot... It's rare and truthfully it's unrealistic to expect that companies will "sponsor" your learning, training, etc AND pay you a decent salary
Multiple certificates in such a short time? That’s astounding. Does he have any study strategies?
Hard work and no life...lol he defiantly doesn't recommend doing it again he said
This is what works for me...
I dislike physical reading.
I LOVE video courses. So Udemy, Pluralsight, CBTNuggets, ACloudGuru, these are some of my favorite learning platforms to prepare for most certifications...
I play videos on 1.5x-2.0x speed. For whatever reason, I can pay attention better and of course I get done the video course in a shorter amount of time
Then, I find practice exams and I GRIND THEM. Repetition is the mother of skill. I'll do a bundle of practice exams, 2, 3, even 4 times until I'm consistently scoring above 90%.
EPIC!
I am 22 years old and currently studying for my CCNA and loving it so far! I plan on building a home network and taking the interview advice that you and Kieth gave out in your interview with him. (Kieth from CBT nuggets) I plan on trying to jump straight into the IT field and I know that cybersecurity is not the right place to get my first job seeing as I will not be well equipped for that role. Do you think that the CCNA is a helpful foundation for cybersecurity?
Thank you so very much for this video. I have been watching so many vidoes on Cybersecurity. Well over 100 vids. This video have been the best I have watched by far and I have gotten soo many notes. David did a great job with details, thank you. This level of details have been lacking in most of the vids I have watched. Would love for you 2 to do more vidoes together.
Thank you. This was for me
When yall say putting projects on your resume, are you referring to personal projects or projects completed at an IT job, or both?
David is such a chad man. I am inspired by his grit and tenacity. Thanks for posting this insightful interview!
I’ve watched a few of your videos. I will be starting at the local votech for IT soon. Was curious if my background in satellite tv would be of any benefit in IT. May be a dumb question since IT is such a broad field.
I don't have to ask anything, it's all here in this podcast!! GOLD!! Thank you!
Another trucker here, looking to make the change. Already started my online course to get the basics
Trucker too. I’m hoping to start by the end of the month. Goodluck!
I'm doing the cyber security certification through Google. Is there anything I need to add to my resume as far as certifications ?
Also where can I start to get experience or some work under my belt
Watching your channel literally just stopped me from making a huge mistake and paying money for another degree. I've been battling that burning question degree vs. certs? I'm having some doubts about my resume writing for today's market. Can you help with this?
Hey the Bearded Dad, this video is insane. I love the content. Great job
Thank you, Im glad you like it!!! Let me know what you would like to see next!
Had a job for about 15 years in the telecommunications industry. Went back to college for IT about half way through college, landed a job as an IT support engineer. Was support engineer for about 2 years. At the same company took on a new position as technical alignment engineer. Did that for about 8 months. Along the way I got my net+, sec+, CySA+, other cloud certs and training. Was very blessed to only apply to one cybersecurity position at a company that I wanted to work for, and was the top candidate. Along the way I would always see RUclips videos of how to break into the cybersecurity field quickly, but it typically always consisted of applying to thousands of jobs to only land a job at a company that would likely cause burn out in the first 6 months to year and make you hate the cybersecurity field. Sometimes the fastest route isn’t always the best.
Great points. Especially the part about linkdin
I am attending infromation technology services 2 year term. I am planning to work in Cyber Security areas. Do you recommend the certification for that specific job?
Thank you ❤❤❤
Love u mate . Thx alot for ur videos . Support and all.. wonderfull . I do study Cybersecurity and yeah still a bit to finish. Peace .thanks
I really want to transition from nursing to tech precisely cyber security but I feel like the tech world makes it so difficult for new people to come in. Like the whole hiring process is too mystified. I dont think its fair on people who are trying to come in fresh without experience. They ask for too much experience, how will i get the experience if you dont hire me. Also what I have noticed is most people lie on their resume to get in. Sad
Preach bro. I am a cv tech, already got a coding boot camp cert.. went nowhere lol bout to go back for cyber
Thank you so much for these videos they are incredibly useful. 6 years ago I was homeless and now I'm taking my Sec+ cert on friday and I am currently taking my last class in my bachelor's of cyber security. Figuring out how to get everything together for potential employers is just great. Keep up the good work!
Honestly enjoyed how informative this was and how brutally truthful he was in his answers and advice. I strongly agreed with the help yourself first advice before asking others for help. It’s ideal to have a career plan, learn the industry, and learn what exact role you’re trying to get into. I’m taking google’s coursera courses right now and soon will be studying for my security+. I thought maybe I should wait until after I’m certified to apply for jobs but I went ahead and started applying for help desk/support, or even entry level & jr security analyst positions. I will continue to utilize my linkedin and network more. Keeping my fingers crossed! Thanks for this video.
Im glad you liked it
@ms_gy you really should consider passing Sec+ first before the Google Cybersecurity course and I only say this because the google course helps reinforce what you studied to pass the Sec+. It should be noted that Courses 7 and 8 are zero help in your Sec+ studies and are quite long. (Python scripts, and Job preparation). Minus spending a lot of time on SQL, courses 1 - 6 have some use but you’re better off making these two credentials as separate goals and not mixed.
Coursera course is more about learning the basics and a small fraction of what can be used in a job of cyber security. Security+ you’re mainly studying to pass an exam. It’s two different approaches of study. Also, do not rely only on the Coursera course to pass Sec+. It didn’t cover everything I thought I saw on the exam itself.
i only listen. i thought his black haha.
amazing podcast btw
I feel like I wasted the last 4 years. Getting in CS degree. I wish I knew about CompTIA certs back then
I dont ever think a degree is a waist.. you still learned valuable knowledge.. just keep moving forward.
I’m discovering similar things with resume writing. I have not written nor used a resume myself for over 20 years. Trying to extract skills that I either acquired from my military service or picked up along the way the majority of these skills are not even remotely relevant for the jobs I’m targeting. I’m totally rebuilding my resume specifically targeting specific jobs. Yeah it may be a good idea to have a longer resume with the wide range of skills if it is getting posted somewhere that employers go into and find someone. If you’re submitting an application and a resume for a specific job it needs to target what the employer is looking for. Remove the other non relevant information.
I appriciate this video really trying to change my carreer and looking into remote work and have no experience but im gonnna give it a start and just find a outlet thank you guys for this
Wow powerful interview! Pure, natural and honest 🔥
I truly appreciated this video. The genuine, transparent knowledge and advice was on point, and with no fluff. I’m interested in changing my career and looking in to Cyber Security or possibly I.T. This interview gave me a lot to further look in to and gain more knowledge in the direction that may be fit for me. Thanks for this video, and yes, I liked and subscribed lol. Thanks again.
Awesome! Thank you!
you both are an absolute inspiration to me. Thank you for making this video.
Hellow I.T .I am a single mum of three and I had my first degree from computer science. Actually I have a degree and an ordinary diploma in computer science. During my project in ordinary diploma I had it in mind to write a project on cyber security. Actually then I didn't even know if there was anything like cyber security. But I just had the inspiration in me that I want to protect people or companies who have been facing security issues. I just had the feeling that I should create an app which can be used to protect this companies from all this problems. But I didn't have the knowledge or someone good enough to guide me. So I didn't continue with the project. But after my first degree I got to understand better and I knew of cyber security and I do really want to get there. So I will keep watching and I will always need guidelines. Thank you for your good work
you can do it!
Thank you for this video, perfect timing! Does everything apply to people over in the UK?
Many aspects do carry over. There may be a bit of differences in Certification recognition. But overall, the skills, keywords, job descriptions should mostly be the same.
David I love the dont b*tch complain LOL I was in the U.S.A.F. RTFM LOL
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31 years old been driving trucks for 10 years. I want a career change and love get into computer work
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Hey Dakota. Excellent podcast. This was good info. Im new to the industry. I just started classes to get my bachelor's in IT with a focus in Cybersecurity and minor in Technological Entrepreneurship and Management. Im glad i found your channel
Thank you so much... Glad that you liked it.
Glad that I found this channel.
I’m new on this journey.
Hopefully a few years from now I’ll come back to also share my successful story. Thanks for the enlightenment!
Hey! Same here… I'm just about to start learning
How has it been so far?
Hey there! So happy to hear that you found my channel helpful. You're not alone on this journey, my friend! We're all in it together. Don't forget to enjoy the ride and embrace the learning process. Trust me, you'll come back with an amazing success story in no time!
I hear people say all the time that certifications don't matter, what matters is what you can do. But those certifications teach you the skills and gives you the vocabulary. I think people need to look at certifications differently.
Nice podcast, Quote: "Everyone has situations differently" Actually
Thank you
Im really struggling IT wise. I have an Associates Degree in Computer Science and have been trouble shooting computers and other tech for years but I can't even land a help desk job. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. Only landed 2 interviews but said they wanted someone with work experience... for tier 1 or entry level help desk.
So much of good advice here, not only just the ideas, tips and tricks to use to get into the field of cybersecurity, but also just the professional advice of how to behave in a professional work environment, I wish I had this when I first started a job.
I'm glad you found the video helpful and informative.
Another thought on college degrees. I don't have one. To me what really stands out is you put out the effort, you had it together enough to navigate that task, that journey. You know what it's like to survive on ramen noodles and still manage to accomplish...
true
Thank you both for this positive, constructive, and personable informative content ! I appreciate the time, energy and effort extended ! You made a great team & Each brought up a lot of great points and shared great case examples. Very cool !
For aspiring cybersecurity professionals, this interview is liquid gold. Very helpful, as a Marine veteran working on a cyber degree and studying for certifications looking for roles, I am conforted that the barrier for entry is not just in my own head.
Im glad this helped
definitely wouldn’t say the degree is worth nothing i think a lot of company’s ask for it the rubric i’ve heard is you need at least 2 out of 3 which is education, experience, and certifications if you have at least 2 of those 3 you can make it
I disagree I dont think you need any of thought if you have the right mind set and drive. I know this for a fact because when i got my start I was a college dropout, I had no experience and no certifications and was able to land an entry level job.
I was exaggerating. Degrees are useful and helpful. I meant more in the context of WHERE does your degree belong on your resume? It belongs very much so bottom or last page. It isn't high priority. You most likely will not receive an interview (which is the objective of the resume) due to your degree.
There's not even an "IT Gold Standard" university. Like there's IVY league schools... there Wharton Business School.... but there isn't really anything super wide known for IT/Cloud/Cyber/Networking roles.
And the IT Bearded Dad is surely correct. You don't "need' either. But I'd also like to mention how competitive everything is today... and how the "entry" standards most definitely have changed over time. Companies are asking for more and they are more SURE of what they want. What it took to get into IT/Cyber 2, 4, 5, 10 years ago is NOT the same today. 2023 and 2024 have been HORIFIC job markets and financial recessions which definitely isn't helping the job search experience for many new comers. Which is why I URGE to upskill and do MORE and try to become as much of a standout candidate as much as possible.
Thanks for the information I already have ITF+ and A+ some people say that you need network+ and other that you don’t needed. I should take that one or go to security+?
This is such a good Information, thank you very much for making this video.
im glad it was helpful
If you noticed, every job preferred a college degree. Yes, project and experience help, but a degree with a certification can give an applicant a better opportunity.
You are correct. but it id defiantly not a requirement.
Agreed, for suer, every little bit helps. And having a college degree is another "check box" in your corner for possible consideration for an interview.
30 year old oil and gas professional switching careers and currently enrolled in the Cybersecurity Boot Camp at the University of Colorado Boulder!
How's it going for you so far? I've been interested in going that route.
I appreciate this sooo much!!! Your videos are so informative and super helpful!
I'm glad
Will definitely try to bold within the first 6 seconds 😂 and rework my resume thanks to both of you !
You can do it!
Recently laid off IT professional more on the process ops side looking to potentially pivot to something else.
Not done yet with the video, not sure if he will specifically mention this, but what about this notion of everybody recommending/preaching to make it ULTRA SPECIFIC AND MEASURABLE as in "Reduced upcoming tickets in that area by 30%" or "Automated xx processes, that lead to savings of 30.3232$" .... I BET MOST OF THOSE PERCENTAGES OR NUMBERS ARE MADE UP......... Is that really necessary, tho it's most likely made up anyways? As if every Help desk dude or sysadmin or whatever knows the CONCRETE business impact his doings had..... Any Input on this issue? Please? 😀
I did try to elaborate on this exact bullet point.
So Job Experience bullet points: 1) In general... if you CAN input metrics, numbers, dollar signs, percentages, or time reduced... its an AWESOME metric to add. Basically "I accomplished/did x by doing y and this achieved/resulted in z.
2) No its very difficult to come up with objective metrics for EVERY bullet point, I'm only recommending maybe 2-3 bullet points especially for the first one per job experience. Because again at the end of the day... you get paid for what you CAN DO. Not just listing meaningless tasks. So if you mention the BUSINESS IMPACT or the business RESULTS of your actions... that's the language of hiring managers and recruiters
my name is mike and i have a question for you. I am looking into a career change i have 15 years expereince in the plant automation side of things. cybersecurity really appeals to me. i am one that gets bored doing the same thing over and over. From the it side if things i am starting from scratch even though a lot of skills i have acquired are very similar. like the networking side of things. especially radios and i really have enjoyed the networking side. which was a lot of out calls as an E&I tech. As i understand help desk is where it all starts. what is the best way to get that first it paying job?
This was gold lol actually low balling might actually be an interview tactic now that I think about it.
Glad you enjoyed it
I am looking into going to IT security. I have no knowledge of tech. What are your thoughts on getting a B.A. in I.T? or is just getting a Cert. be enough?
This Brother gave real time great advice and I am happy for the information given!
Glad it was helpful!