I had the exact same issue with my 1DX MK1 as the shutter mechanism throws oil all over the sensor. Had to have mine professionally cleaned by fixation near enough on day 1. Canon did a recall in the end and modified the shutter/mirror housing (probably just wiped of excess lubricant in real terms) I can’t believe that canon have let this happen again on the 3rd incarnation of this model, for a Pro spec camera they really should be well on top of this issue. Keeping my money in my pocket for the moment until this gets fully resolved.
yep, thx for the comment and it shows this is wider spread than the doubters believe. better off with mirrorless, Canon mirrorless does not have this issue as there is no Mirror to flap about, My thoughts on why Canon have just tried to brush this under the carpet so to speak is because they had the mirrorless full frames in development and thought that they could just push one more very expensive model out having not fully tested it. I was shocked to see another 1DX mkiii DSLR made, I thought they would have gone mirrorless the the 3rd generation model.
I can see the corona virus on the screen too .. couple it with the depressing piano music and if I had the cash i'd go and buy one. I have the 1Dx MKII and haven't noticed any spots
My 1Dx2 has suffered with similar spots. It’s been to canon 3 times. They say when you fire at high frame rates you will compromise with a bit of oil splatter and shavings from the shutter. The camera is as they say designed for sports photographers who shoot at f2.8 and you won’t see these spots. I personally am appalled by this issue and had hoped they sorted it on the new model
It’s very clear the owner of the camera will have to clean there sensor often during the break in period. Hopefully it’s just a break in issue that will go away. I am a little sad since I am very interested in this camera.
Hello...i had a similar issue with my 7d mark ii and canon replaced the sensor. The issue was shooting at high speeds with you get fragments that are moving around so fast. Send it to them they will take care of it and ask them to send you a loaner while they take care of this one for you. The camera is a stellar and thanks for sharing your findings.
mine did that for about 2,000 images, but I always cleaned the sensor after every shoot and now I have 240K actuations and my shutter is always clean.....didn't have to clean it after the 2,000 shots......
After your video I examined my shots of different sky's taken with the 1 DX M II - I didn't have an issue! I (rarely) almost never shoot at 16 fps. But thanks for the information.
An update on my 1DXmk3 saga. I picked up body number 4 at 11am from WEX and it was back by 2pm for a full refund on the camera, additional battery and CFExpress card. Although it was from a different batch the same problem was evident and appeared to worsen as I took 160 shots. It wasn't only visible at F22 and I could still see the problem at F8. A big shout out to Steve at WEX in Bristol and the WEX Team. They have been first class. A pity Canon couldn't deliver a camera fit for purpose after 4 attempts. I'll look at the R5 or maybe ditch Canon totally and go with the Sony A9II.
Yep and look at all the comments of all the disbelievers, your comment just shows what this camera is really like, and to top it all a 6.5k camera at that, Canon should recognise this as an issue and resolve it if not then it is simply not worth the mortgage you have to pay for it simples.
@@ironian24 Yep it sucks big time and those that doubt it contact me and I'm willing to supply the images and camera serial numbers if needed. WEX have told me they are taking it up with Canon and I will be starting on their customer support later today. It's sad as for wildlife and sports it's a great camera but I put some of my images out for stock and can't have blemishes on images that take forever to clone out or have repeated sensor cleaning. I px'd a 5D4 for this and have just bought another until the R5 or maybe a 5D5 becomes available. If the AF is good and EVF lag minimal it will be the R5 but only after 6 months of user experience.
Just found an update from Canon. They acknowledge the issue and say that to much oil has been applied to the mechanical areas in the mirror box. Canon will remove the excess oil and clean the sensor.
Glad you have found an update to this issue and more importantly glad Canon has finally acknowledged it. Can you add a link for all those mis believers on here please.
Service Notice: EOS-1D Mark III/EOS-1Ds Mark III: Oil Spots on LPF Surface. I'm sorry, I couldn't copy the link, but If you go to the canon usa product advisory page or Google canon service advisory with the above title, you'll find their fix and repair.
I do photography. I’ve got a five day and a 70 Canon and I’ll send those dots in my pictures as well and I also thought the same as you did but I didn’t realise it was that bad.
Thanks for the heads up. In my cAse , I don't max out the frame rate on my 1DX2, so fortunate to not run into the problem. W the 3, I expect my shooting style won't change. So, seems like I'll be safe...but to know the problem is there is important info. Excellent vid.
Hi over the years I’ve been using the Canon 1DX, 1DX Mark II and now the 1DX Mark 3 my experience with these models, the first 1DX was recalled by canon because of a problem with the shutter, canon sorted the problem with lubricant. we now have the 1DX Mark 2 and my opinion it has a problem with either the shutter mechanism or the mirror box, I don’t believe it’s anything to do with the sensor for those of you that think it’s dust I personally believe it’s not dust. I have watched my mark 2 being cleaned in a dust free environment the lens put back on and fired again at high speed 14 frames a second and the sensor examined again only to find it’s covered in fragments yet again this has to be from the shutter or the mirror box Canon knows about this problem, so I moved on to the mark 3 , Ian at IR Photo Tours demonstrates the problem still exists I am very disappointed with canon. I have used Canon 7D Mark 2’s and all of the 5d range I own 2 5D Mark 4’s and don’t have to clean the sensor every time I use them. So my verdict is that Canon has taken the 1DX Mark 2 and 3 to far because I strongly believe either the shutter or the mirror is grinding itself to death and fragments from this is being thrown onto the sensor. If you think I’m going to pay £6,500 and have to clean my sensor every time I work with the 1DX Mark3 the answer is NO WAY hence why I have now returned my mark 3 for a full refund.
Ive just had a letter back from Canon today that states they know nothing about this issue and neither do the senior technicians. What’s going on here then because this video speaks for itself. Canon denying this is even an issue let alone on previous models
Purchased 1DX Mark 3 April 17th. Made around 40 single shots. Last ten shots have spots few of them are even visible without dehaze in Lightroom. Decided to see how's Canon can help me. It turned out that their www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/service-repair/repair/ page has a glitch and doesn't allow to get and fill the service form instead it gives you a phone numbers. Gave a call to their tech support and it's true they denied the problem and suggested to send the camera to them for service or send it back to the seller if it's possible.
It is lube from the mirror system. It will get better over time as you use the camera. Meanwhile, just clean the sensor, which only takes a couple of minutes and is quite easy to do. Early copies of the 1DX2 had the same issue. My 1DX2 stopped slinging lube after about 2000 images. Really not a big deal and no, the sensor is not being damaged in the least. I can't wait to get the 1DX3!
Very interesting Ian. Would I invest in one now...probably not. I have been out with Blakey and seen this myself. For that sort of money I would. not be happy. Just how far can you push a small mechanical mirror and keep it running smoothly with out fault. Be interesting to see where this goes. By the way...love the dog
My 1 month old 1DXmk3 has oil splatter after 3000 shutter actuations. Picking up a replacement tommrow then if the same happens again then getting a refund. A superb camera spoilt by oil spots. Very sad.
I have the same EXACTLY issue with a brand new out of the box Sony A7III. I purchased the camera, put a lens on, took about 20/30 shots, uploaded the files on the computer and found over 50 spots in every single picture.
I own a 1DX mark one. Only 50 spots would make me very happy!!. Cleaning yourself is not that easy with these oil splatter. I sometimes have to remove 500 spots in a single image. It depends on the sort of subject/image, but it is really terrible. Very frustrating.
@@janvanholten7592 At last someone with some common sense, it is very clear to me that this is definitely an issue that should be addressed by Canon and not ignored, the cost of these top of the range cameras come at there own cost but should not. I have read so many comments now with clean your lens to just clean your sensor and usually from people who have never owned the 1dx series.
@@ironian24, it is very clear that this problem is a 1DX problem. I also own a 1D mark4 and never had any problems with sensor dust. Of course when you replace a lens for another one, you get a little bit of dirt inside. But that is blown away very easy. On my 1DX is it sometimes about 500 spots and that within a week of cleaning the sensor by a company called Chipclean in Holland. They offer always superb work and Canon Holland has paid him several times with a visit to see his what this men is finding during his cleaning. Some other people that I' ll know has less big problems, so it is not the same with every camera. But spending 10 - 12 minutes for cleaning one image on the computer is terrible annoying. I'll like to buy the mark3, but this problem really holds me back.
Just for the record, Sony are having shutter issues with the A7 3 and A7r3 s with pieces coming off the curtains causing light leakages and possibly sensor damage, ouch! Nikon had trouble with their flagship D5 as well with oil getting onto the sensor, Fuji have problems with shutter failures on the XT3’s, as mine failed in less than 1000 actuations, luckily under warranty. With anything high performance, you’ll bound to get issues same with performance cars at £100,000 plus, Ferrari’s are notoriously fickle and aren’t as reliable as folks may think.
Finally someone that gets it... it doesn’t mean every single canon 1d x iii is the same... just off one person messed up camera... have allot of friends who have 1dx iii without issues
I say clean the sensor and retest at 16fps. Clean again and do 14fps as comparative to the Nikon D6. Then clean the sensor one last time and do 12fps to see if lowering the frame rate helps.
I say that is a load of rubbish quite frankly. who wants to buy a camera at 6.5k with these issues straight out of the box? I think you are missing the point!
IR Photo-Tours Oh I agree with you 100% I was saying run a few more test to see if at lower fps does it do better? But yeah you're absolutely right, there's more problems than the one you identified like it locks up the OVF in continuous burst and goes to sleep. Canon admitted to that. It also doesn't have 24fps in 1080p, banding in e-shutter, the dual pixel autofocus in video is inferior to the Z6, no time lapse, and they've had some bad batteries only giving some 200 frames and not 2000+ Crazy thing is the Angry Photographer while having lots of good info and insight might be super wrong about both the 1DxIII and D6. I wonder if the D6 has the same problem.
@@dct124 Not sure but I hope the EOS R5 is better, it should be as it has no mirror to slap lubricant all over the sensor, and frame rates can be much higher on mirrorless, mirrorless is definitely the future in sport photography that is for sure.
IR Photo-Tours doesn't that camera have overheating problem? Canon def trying but like you said they are going a bit too fast to put products out and quality control is lacking.
john brown no, because it is about the high frame rate and lubricant on the mirror mechanism that is the problem, high mechanical shutter spreads the oil over the sensor, this in turn means you need to clean the sensor until the oil has finished spreading it all over the sensor, at 6.5k of camera only you would expect perfection, I know I would.
Spare a thought for us 5D Classic paupers Ian. Regular sensor cleaning at home is a real pain, but parting with my MK1 is unthinkable. I imagine every camera has a fault, somewhere. Bummer if you have spent a big wedge, but hey ho, workaround issues will haunt the economically fortunate too. There is no such thing as perfection, no matter how much you spend... C'est la Vie !! What do Canon say ? Have they given you a responce to this upload ??
I am so pleased i have seen your vlog, my 1Dx mki is exactly the same, i thought i hadn't cleaned the sensor correctly so i sent it away to get done professionally and it came back the same, now i know its not the sensor needing cleaning again, if anybody has a quick fix for this i would love to hear it
@@ironian24 My Pleasure Ian, i mainly shoot sports but on the odd occasion i do a landscape i always get the spots and most of my landscapes are shot at F-11
I have this issue on my 1dx 2. I shoot real estate and once I combine multiple exposures I see these dots everywhere in my photos. This is a legit issue.
@@ironian24 just to give you an update, I'm sending my idx 2 into canon to have it cleaned/repaired. They said it's a known issue and it affects 1% of 1dx models. They claim canon released a statement regarding this last year.
I've owned an 1dx, 1dx2 and now have 1 dx3. Yep it is something accepted by high speed shooters. I think it's a fact of life for these cameras. Enough people complained back with the 1dx2. Doesn't look like it's something that can be fixed/McGyvered.
Thx for the comment buddy, I just think it a shame you pay all that money to then have to pay to get the sensor cleaned every time you use it, I honestly feel you should not have to do that, mirrorless cameras don't have the same problem because there is no mirror to flap oil over the sensor. It's just bonkers people accept an issue for that kind of money, make absolutely no sense to me at all. I own a few canon cameras and 2 of which are mirrorless and I cannot find fault with them yes they also are very reasonably priced.
@@ironian24 This is how business works. They make you pay $6500, and then they will charge you for maintenance/service. Welcome to the big company world!
so we all know it was an issue on the 1DX MKII .... before spending so much money did u not think to question if issue had been resolved? I did not buy the 1DX II or III for this reason.
I've had dust spot problems with the 1Ds III, 1DX and 1DX II, but not on the 1D IIn, 1D III and 1D IV. The 5D II, III and 5DS R does not show the same spot issue.
I have a Canon 1DX MkII and it has a shutter count of 179,000. I have never EVER had a problem with it. I have just ordered a MkIII and this certainly will NOT put me off. I am NOT convinced there is a problem, in my experience that is.
This issue is real. I returned my 1DX Mark III today. I thought firstly too it’s dust but it’s not. Even the Canon service offered me a free of charge cleaning - guess why? They are aware of it. A friend there told me. That’s so ugly, I am really shocked. And my confidence into Canon is in the Toilette now.
David Ramos As I Said, I returned the 1DX Mark III, I just rented it out before purchase. The dots I am talking about are the same what you can see in the video here. These are oil splashes, I asked the local Canon dealer, it’s something we’ll known with 1DX (except for me, for me it was bit shocking).
Ian would you still recommend one as I’m still using a 1 d mark 3 and a 1 DS mark 3 and yes I’ve had to clean my sensors many times and a real pain the arse?
Personally speaking it seems some are worse than others, I have gone mirrorless now so I don't get that problem anymore, and by going mirrorless cameras are able to get the frame rate very high, the new upcoming Canon EOS R5 will have 20 fps silent and 12fps mechanical, plus you will get 45mp digic x sensor, that camera is sounding like a beast compared, so in short I would probably wait and see what develops with this new mirrorless from Canon.
I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
Personally speaking I am waiting for my Canon eos r6 which is the equivalent of the IDx mkiii with great low light handling and at a sensible price also, image quality will be great too. save yourself 4k and buy some good RF lenses to go with it.
I doubt they will m8, as you can see from this vlog the amount of people who have this issue and do not care about it, many state just clean the sensor! my answer to that is why should I have to do anything to a brand new very expensive camera? personally speaking I believe this will be the last Mirrored camera you will see from Canon. next vlog I will explain why.
I initially thought I had been careless in changing the lens, but now on adjusting the dehaze in Lightroom I can see the EXACT the same dots (not dust) and spots. I have fired of the shutter on high speed again and the spots are increasing and the lens has mot be changed from the mount. The worrying fact is the image is obviously going to eventually get softer as more time progresses. Will I constantly need to clean the sensor on a 6K professional camera which will eventully cause debris to deposit on the sensor. These spots look very similar to the pattern i had with my old 1DX Mark 2 which were OIL SPOTS. NOT HAPPY on a new piece of kit costing 6K !!
@@ironian24 Hello there Ian, will probably speak to WEX for a replacement or refund after this Covid situation. Canon in a failed position with this oil splatter and a camera that will not be in demand for the Olympics.
@@ironian24 Hello there Ian, will probably speak to WEX for a replacement or refund after this Covid situation. Canon in a failed position with this oil splatter and a camera that will not be in demand for the Olympics.
I am getting ready to do a video tonight on the 1DXM3 with some issues, mind if I site your videos and use a few frames? I'll obviously give you credit and recommend my viewers come to your channel to see the full details.
Ordinary Filmmaker A huge thank you buddy, much appreciated will do the same for you. What blog was it you did as you blog a lot lol. You have an honest and interesting channel.
I had this on the mark ii and was fairly sure the mark iii would have it too. Seems I was right. My mark ii had HUNDREDS of spots, and the people saying you never see them in real-world use are wrong. Obviously more are visible at f22 (not real-world use for me), but I had some visible at f4. Fine, you can edit it out of stills, but it's a pain for video. Canon told me it wasn't a known issue when my 1DXii was sent in, but lots of other people had reported it too so... They cleaned mine, and a couple hundred shots later (literally a couple hundred) there were dozens and dozens of spots on it again, all circular implying it's liquid. Not good enough.
I am here to tell the truth nothing more, take what I say as you will, if you wish to spend your hard earned money on something that just is not good enough then do so, your choice, I am merely giving the information for you to have the choice on what you do, it is that simple. Lovely ole job.
You get a like from me for this. Thank you so much, my 1DX Mark III goes back now. Sony A9 II is my tool to go. I never had such issues with the Sony A9. It is not the only issue with the 1DX Mark III.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours When I watched you video firstly I remember suddenly exactly these issues with dots I had in the past with the 1DX Mark II, I had no explanation for it except the sensor being dirty maybe. But it’s simply oil... what a hell. I also have an issue with the 1DX Mark III simply going into sleep mode after I took some images. Really a strange thing but I googled and there were others reporting this issue too. Canon is using us as beta testers?? I am really, really disappointed. That is it for me with Canon.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours By the way, did you have this issue too? I had this some times that after a shot I took the camera went into sleep mode. Maybe it’s a feature implemented by Canon? The camera sleeps when you take a boring shot? Just kidding. It’s embarrassing in case this is another issue with this 73000 Euro camera.
Having owned 1dxii and mirrorless sony at the same time I had far more issues with spots on the sensor with mirrorless than the 1dxii. The sensor had to be cleaned almost every time before shooting video. Never had such problems with 1dxii. Also if I'd shoot mainly landscapes I would look for some other camera anyway than 1d series..
Yes but perhaps so but you did not own a Canon mirrorless such as the Eosr which covers it's own sensor when switched off to protect it from such things as dust.
Well I used the replacement I picked up from WEX this morning. 50 shots in and I tested it and have somewhere in the region of 50 oil spots or debris. What a crock of sh*te. I've provided WEX with the images who are saying they will take this up with Canon UK. Where to go now as I've a heavy investment in EF prime glass for wildlife photography?
Sorry to hear that Steve, what a real pain, I know how you feel. Just wait for the Canon EOS R5 buddy at 12 fps mechanical and 20 digital with a 45mp digic x sensor I don't think you will go far wrong with that, I will be getting it, the announcement for the R5 is 9th July. I will be doing a review on this camera when it comes out.
@@ironian24 Thanks Ian. As I shoot bird in flight shots in the main I've always been put off EVF / mirrorless plus all my glass is EF mount and I can't afford to replace it with RF. If the AF is as good in the R5 maybe it's time to move and use an adapter for my EF lenses. If I hear back anything from WEX on their feedback from Canon I'll post it here for all to see.
@@stevemurnan1702 I own the EOS R and use the ef adapter, I can tell you it is seamless and has no issues at all with the EF glass, in fact the EOSR is quicker focusing with the ef glass than it was on my other dslrs. EF glass works like it is native to the camera body. I strongly recommend you wait for the R5 to come out and buy an adapter at £99 for you EF glass.
thx for your comment Harry, no dehaze right up is probably not a fair test as you would not normally do this in processing, it is just to show you all that there are oil spots on the sensor, it will get worse and worse to the extent it will ruin your images.
Well, since I can’t find one anyway, now I don’t feel as bad. Does the issue go away with use and cleaning I wonder? Like a break in period? I don’t know
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours haha cool. So let me ask your opinion. I desperately need a good indoor sports camera right now for a few tournaments. Let’s say canon fixed this issue in the future. I can get a used clean 1DX for about $1400 bucks. Would it be more worth it to get the 1DX 2 and pay double the price or can the 1Dx do about the same for indoors action? My logic is to buy the 1Dx now and then in the near future get the version 3 if they fix the issues. Thanks
I try it and check it on my 1Dx MIII and I don't have this issue at any fps, probably you have or a bad batch of IR filter or a oil leak on the mirror mechanic, send it back. Btw maybe you don't know that also a mirrorless have a mechanical shooter 😂😂 PS don't shoot on a cloud next time shoot to a softbox ;-).
@@java5111 well then its not an honest review by all accounts and look towards like reviews by various people that don't have issues tied to one brand.
I started watching this and I was like who is this idiot bad mouthing this amazing camera and then I opened an image that was taken against the sky and there were a lot of spots when i turned the haze up. Wow, that is super disappointing. I had the mark II and never noticed this but recently i saw some images with spots on it and figured it was my lens. Thanks for the info!
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours ha ha yes sorry! I realized that after seeing the truth. I guess I will have to periodically send it in to get the sensor cleaned.
@@skylerlivingston yep sorry to say that is all we Canon 1DX users can do, unless you notice it when you buy one then they will refund you the money. This is not good considering the amount you spend on what you think id the top of the range camera.
Regardless of if this is an issue or not (appears to be divided), but seriously, if you're pushing your dehaze slider more than 10+ points, you're probably not in the right profession. Dehaze causes 'almost' more artefact issues in images than any other adjustment outside of exposure. But if you still think it's an issue, just shoot in live view with the electronic shutter hahaha. Better focus coverage and faster lol, and arguably no shutter lube to be ejected through use haha. I know that's not the point but meh!
Thx for watching and your in put, just so you know, dehaze is not something I use in my editing as I hopefully show in my photography as a whole, however I used it here to highlight the issue in hand nothing more. I am pretty sure this video states that as well.
1Dx lll has been pixel peeped like crazy by many experienced professionals for over a month now. 99% of feedback on image quality and general performance has been very positive.
yes granted, and i am just pointing out this issue with it, other than this issue there is 2 more issues with focusing points not being where they should be but i felt this was more of an issue, I feel If you are going to but this camera then you need to know what the down sides are at the moment thats all.
I shoot with it since day one and i dont have a problem. I almost shoot only burst and dont have a problem. I used the A9 and the A9ll and i hate the EVF. I used 3 of the 1dxmll and no problem at all and i know a lot of people who also use those camera’s and none of them have problems like this. Check out youtube and how many people have there issues?
Nice to hear you don't have any issues well done, but as you can see by the comments many people have got the issue, just because no one has spoke about this issue on youtube means nothing, it merely suggests they have not seen the issue themselves yet, I would bet if they did what I did in this vlog they would see what I see simples.
@@ironian24 maybe, but so many photograpers have reviewed that camera, had them in hands few weeks, some of them bought it and untill your video just one complain, no 24p.
Just an update my friends: The more you use the camera, the less of an issue it will become. Put about 2000 actuations thru it. Clean the sensor. Continue to shoot. Over time you will see it will become less of an issue. Just some light at the end of the tunnel. :) Trust me the PRO's of this monster greatly outweigh the CONS. ) Sta safe everyone. :)) Toronto, Canada,
I would have thought Canon would have made the 1dx 3 mirrorless, less moving parts, my Canon M6 mkii does 14 fps that is mirrorless, I think we will see the end of Dslrs soon. It seems to me mirror less can do good fps M6 mkii 14fps 1dx mark III 16fps
Moi jais jamais eu un seul problème avec le 1dx mark2 trop top!!! J'avoue que je me méfie du mark3, et que jais entendue pas que du bon, et même je trouve que les couleur du mark 3 et un peux pousser, ça c'est juste mon commentaires!!
All 1D's have oil spots (if your looking for them), or all of mine have, my 1DX3 has about 15 MINOR spots at f45 on my 500II(shot at 700mm), who shoots at f45? Then to dehaze and look for them? You will find them on nearly any ILC, I agree it's tough to accept on a new camera, but sadly its fact of 1D life. As a pro I dont quite understand why your so down about it, return it to the dealer, another will be the same, send it to CPS or hand it over at an event, clean it your self, it does ease over time, with all the moving parts involved and the speed it must be impossible to avoid some debris on the sensor, I don't worry about it unless it starts effecting my images and it never has, f16 would be a high for me 99% of the time, maybe studio work or some moon shots at f11?? Anyway, for those who read this buy one, this is an incredible camera, and you should get a high level of support for issues like this, Wex would change mine no question I KNOW, but, tbh this is making a big deal over nothing, oh and please blogger, Regards.
@@ironian24 Stopped down is stopped down right? F16, f22, f whatever...? Am I missing the point of stopping down and looking for dust and oil? Btw I did agree about your points.
@@ironian24 So, what are you going to do Ian? Return it? Have it cleaned? Like I say I agree about your points 100% But we have both been through this before right, I think I have grown to accept it, should I?? Like I say, I do agree.
@@arthurbikemad I will return it because I don't want to be cleaning my sensor every time I shoot, I can only see it getting worse so sadly it will go back. maybe I will go for the mki instead, I owned the mki camera before and had no issues like this with that one, my personal opinion is that the shutter moves so quick that it just splatters the oil all over the sensor, so why should I be cleaning the sensor every time I go for a shoot I ask myself, I do expect better when you save your hard earned money up to spend £6500.00 and get what I think is a major issue for me.
@@ironian24 I agree with you, I asked myself the question "does it effect my images?" Truly can you see it in real world shooting, do you shoot f16? Are you giving up an advantage by not having the Mk3 to hand? For me the camera is so good I dont wish to change, even the R5 may have issues from the mechanical shutter? It's a tough situation.
definitely not sensor dust, look closely at the donut style spot, that is conducive to oil or some kind of lubricant, if it were dust it would be a solid look to each spot
I understand its New product & expensive also. But can't you send it to service center again for sensor CLEANING & make them understand. Even the issue still persist, can't you clean the sensor on your own using V Swab? Because i agree with your issue but i feel you should have given a solution at the END especially to those who are NEW owner of CANON 1DX MARK III rather than letting the OWNERS feel confused or agitated who are beginner/hobbyist etc. Because video is informative but at the same time distasteful when you claimed you moved on to MIRROR LESS. So, basically you are saying i will create a confusion rather than giving the SOLUTION. huuuhhh...Didn't Expected from such a Professional...
People cars are always getting recalled and you still buy them, one person says canon is shit and everyone of you jump ship... wow!!! Just wow!!! Followers the lot of you... RUclips has become out of control, one person says something and everyone is in a panic... guess loose Lina sinks ships... cause their are a thousands of other reviews on this 1d x iii that have no issues....
Your entitled to your opinion I guess 😃, I won't be jumping ship any time soon, I happen to love what Canon do. Just stating facts and giving my viewers the knowledge I have found, what you do with that information is completely up to you.
@@ironian24 yes I am, why people just follow is crazy... if you tube is your source of information someone will have simmering negative about everything, your just not gonna trying cause some RUclips person says it’s crap... that’s just stupid... I see bad reviews all the time , I still research the product, this cancel culture has gotten completely out of control.
upping the dehaze is purely for this video, not something I do in processing normally, you can see it is not dust it is oil, oil on glass separates, and with dehaze maxed out you can clearly see this. I hope that makes sense Jon and thx for the comment much appreciated.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours very polite reply. Anyway I have only received delivery of my 1DX III yesterday. Haven’t had chance to test it yet. Slightly concerned.
I'd be very careful what you say. Firstly, is this a one-off issue that YOU have and noone else has experienced, or are loads of people reporting it? Secondly, you casually claim its not dust, its a brand new sensor. How scientific of you! So you don't check it out and see if there is dust (new or not, irrelevant) you just brazenly claim it isn't dust. If it turns out to be dust or turns out it's a one-off faulty sensor, then you are responsible for ruining the reputation of a camera. Make sure you get your facts right before blabbing to the world what you believe. You said it yourself that you're no expert (regarding sensor issues).
Firstly this is not a one-off issue, Secondly I had the MK2 doing the same thing it IS an issue on the 1DX Mk3 the video shows it. Do you use a 1DX Mk2 or 3 ??
Thx for the comment, where I live you have freedom of speech especially when it is factual, I do not need to be a scientist to shoot at a sky at f/16 at 16fps to show the spots, have a look at the images at the end of the vlog some are un-touched and still show the spots.
@@ironian24 I simply recommended you to be careful what you say. I'm not the one who could get sued, so not my problem. Where I live we also have freedom of speech. Oh and as for your freedom of speech, I notice you changed the name of the video LOL. Anyway, I enjoy your videos, so I'm sorry my only ever comment was a negative one. You have a good channel.
@@davidblake3941 I didn't say it is a one-off instance, that's why I posed the question. If lots of people report this issue then obviously it is an issue. If they don't, maybe it is a one-off issue. If this was an issue on the 1DXii, it would be very possible on the 1DXiii. Why wasn't it blabbed all over the internet for the 1DXii? You know how people love to attack cameras, especially the anti-Canon brigade. I never saw one video on it. Obviously, that doesn't mean there wasn't one, but it certainly wasn't common knowledge. No, I don't use a 1DX series camera.
I had the exact same issue with my 1DX MK1 as the shutter mechanism throws oil all over the sensor. Had to have mine professionally cleaned by fixation near enough on day 1. Canon did a recall in the end and modified the shutter/mirror housing (probably just wiped of excess lubricant in real terms) I can’t believe that canon have let this happen again on the 3rd incarnation of this model, for a Pro spec camera they really should be well on top of this issue. Keeping my money in my pocket for the moment until this gets fully resolved.
yep, thx for the comment and it shows this is wider spread than the doubters believe. better off with mirrorless, Canon mirrorless does not have this issue as there is no Mirror to flap about, My thoughts on why Canon have just tried to brush this under the carpet so to speak is because they had the mirrorless full frames in development and thought that they could just push one more very expensive model out having not fully tested it. I was shocked to see another 1DX mkiii DSLR made, I thought they would have gone mirrorless the the 3rd generation model.
I can see the corona virus on the screen too .. couple it with the depressing piano music and if I had the cash i'd go and buy one. I have the 1Dx MKII and haven't noticed any spots
My 1Dx2 has suffered with similar spots. It’s been to canon 3 times. They say when you fire at high frame rates you will compromise with a bit of oil splatter and shavings from the shutter. The camera is as they say designed for sports photographers who shoot at f2.8 and you won’t see these spots. I personally am appalled by this issue and had hoped they sorted it on the new model
There is a link above if you want to know details with this issue from Arthur Morris who wrote a Blog about this very thing.
It’s very clear the owner of the camera will have to clean there sensor often during the break in period. Hopefully it’s just a break in issue that will go away. I am a little sad since I am very interested in this camera.
Hello...i had a similar issue with my 7d mark ii and canon replaced the sensor. The issue was shooting at high speeds with you get fragments that are moving around so fast. Send it to them they will take care of it and ask them to send you a loaner while they take care of this one for you. The camera is a stellar and thanks for sharing your findings.
Yep I realise it's doen to fast moving parts, I got my money back as it is a clear issue.
@@ironian24 ok great
mine did that for about 2,000 images, but I always cleaned the sensor after every shoot and now I have 240K actuations and my shutter is always clean.....didn't have to clean it after the 2,000 shots......
After your video I examined my shots of different sky's taken with the 1 DX M II - I didn't have an issue! I (rarely) almost never shoot at 16 fps. But thanks for the information.
An update on my 1DXmk3 saga. I picked up body number 4 at 11am from WEX and it was back by 2pm for a full refund on the camera, additional battery and CFExpress card. Although it was from a different batch the same problem was evident and appeared to worsen as I took 160 shots. It wasn't only visible at F22 and I could still see the problem at F8. A big shout out to Steve at WEX in Bristol and the WEX Team. They have been first class. A pity Canon couldn't deliver a camera fit for purpose after 4 attempts. I'll look at the R5 or maybe ditch Canon totally and go with the Sony A9II.
Yep and look at all the comments of all the disbelievers, your comment just shows what this camera is really like, and to top it all a 6.5k camera at that, Canon should recognise this as an issue and resolve it if not then it is simply not worth the mortgage you have to pay for it simples.
@@ironian24 Yep it sucks big time and those that doubt it contact me and I'm willing to supply the images and camera serial numbers if needed. WEX have told me they are taking it up with Canon and I will be starting on their customer support later today. It's sad as for wildlife and sports it's a great camera but I put some of my images out for stock and can't have blemishes on images that take forever to clone out or have repeated sensor cleaning. I px'd a 5D4 for this and have just bought another until the R5 or maybe a 5D5 becomes available. If the AF is good and EVF lag minimal it will be the R5 but only after 6 months of user experience.
Just found an update from Canon. They acknowledge the issue and say that to much oil has been applied to the mechanical areas in the mirror box. Canon will remove the excess oil and clean the sensor.
Glad you have found an update to this issue and more importantly glad Canon has finally acknowledged it. Can you add a link for all those mis believers on here please.
Service Notice: EOS-1D Mark III/EOS-1Ds Mark III: Oil Spots on LPF Surface. I'm sorry, I couldn't copy the link, but If you go to the canon usa product advisory page or Google canon service advisory with the above title, you'll find their fix and repair.
I do photography. I’ve got a five day and a 70 Canon and I’ll send those dots in my pictures as well and I also thought the same as you did but I didn’t realise it was that bad.
Thanks for the heads up. In my cAse , I don't max out the frame rate on my 1DX2, so fortunate to not run into the problem. W the 3, I expect my shooting style won't change. So, seems like I'll be safe...but to know the problem is there is important info. Excellent vid.
Hi over the years I’ve been using the Canon 1DX, 1DX Mark II and now the 1DX Mark 3 my experience with these models, the first 1DX was recalled by canon because of a problem with the shutter, canon sorted the problem with lubricant.
we now have the 1DX Mark 2 and my opinion it has a problem with either the shutter mechanism or the mirror box, I don’t believe it’s anything to do with the sensor for those of you that think it’s dust I personally believe it’s not dust. I have watched my mark 2 being cleaned in a dust free environment the lens put back on and fired again at high speed 14 frames a second and the sensor examined again only to find it’s covered in fragments yet again this has to be from the shutter or the mirror box Canon knows about this problem, so I moved on to the mark 3 , Ian at IR Photo Tours demonstrates the problem still exists I am very disappointed with canon. I have used Canon 7D Mark 2’s and all of the 5d range I own 2 5D Mark 4’s and don’t have to clean the sensor every time I use them.
So my verdict is that Canon has taken the 1DX Mark 2 and 3 to far because I strongly believe either the shutter or the mirror is grinding itself to death and fragments from this is being thrown onto the sensor. If you think I’m going to pay £6,500 and have to clean my sensor every time I work with the 1DX Mark3 the answer is NO WAY hence why I have now returned my mark 3 for a full refund.
Ive just had a letter back from Canon today that states they know nothing about this issue and neither do the senior technicians. What’s going on here then because this video speaks for itself.
Canon denying this is even an issue let alone on previous models
Well if Canon are denying this issue when so many people have it what does that say about Canon?
What were the other 2 things that were issues with the camera
They have been addressed I believe focusing points randomly moving and disappearing altogether
Purchased 1DX Mark 3 April 17th. Made around 40 single shots. Last ten shots have spots few of them are even visible without dehaze in Lightroom. Decided to see how's Canon can help me. It turned out that their www.usa.canon.com/internet/portal/us/home/support/service-repair/repair/ page has a glitch and doesn't allow to get and fill the service form instead it gives you a phone numbers. Gave a call to their tech support and it's true they denied the problem and suggested to send the camera to them for service or send it back to the seller if it's possible.
It is lube from the mirror system. It will get better over time as you use the camera. Meanwhile, just clean the sensor, which only takes a couple of minutes and is quite easy to do.
Early copies of the 1DX2 had the same issue. My 1DX2 stopped slinging lube after about 2000 images. Really not a big deal and no, the sensor is not being damaged in the least. I can't wait to get the 1DX3!
Very interesting Ian. Would I invest in one now...probably not. I have been out with Blakey and seen this myself. For that sort of money I would. not be happy. Just how far can you push a small mechanical mirror and keep it running smoothly with out fault. Be interesting to see where this goes. By the way...love the dog
Thank you Dave, I am only pointing out an issue that is clearly there and is factual.
Now I wouldn’t think of buying this anymore, thanks Ian
My 1 month old 1DXmk3 has oil splatter after 3000 shutter actuations. Picking up a replacement tommrow then if the same happens again then getting a refund. A superb camera spoilt by oil spots. Very sad.
I have the same EXACTLY issue with a brand new out of the box Sony A7III. I purchased the camera, put a lens on, took about 20/30 shots, uploaded the files on the computer and found over 50 spots in every single picture.
So it's not just Canon then.
I own a 1DX mark one. Only 50 spots would make me very happy!!. Cleaning yourself is not that easy with these oil splatter. I sometimes have to remove 500 spots in a single image. It depends on the sort of subject/image, but it is really terrible. Very frustrating.
@@janvanholten7592 At last someone with some common sense, it is very clear to me that this is definitely an issue that should be addressed by Canon and not ignored, the cost of these top of the range cameras come at there own cost but should not. I have read so many comments now with clean your lens to just clean your sensor and usually from people who have never owned the 1dx series.
@@ironian24, it is very clear that this problem is a 1DX problem. I also own a 1D mark4 and never had any problems with sensor dust. Of course when you replace a lens for another one, you get a little bit of dirt inside. But that is blown away very easy. On my 1DX is it sometimes about 500 spots and that within a week of cleaning the sensor by a company called Chipclean in Holland. They offer always superb work and Canon Holland has paid him several times with a visit to see his what this men is finding during his cleaning. Some other people that I' ll know has less big problems, so it is not the same with every camera. But spending 10 - 12 minutes for cleaning one image on the computer is terrible annoying. I'll like to buy the mark3, but this problem really holds me back.
I tried this on my EOS-1D X Mark II. No spots visible at f16 and 100% dehaze. 👌
Just for the record, Sony are having shutter issues with the A7 3 and A7r3 s with pieces coming off the curtains causing light leakages and possibly sensor damage, ouch! Nikon had trouble with their flagship D5 as well with oil getting onto the sensor, Fuji have problems with shutter failures on the XT3’s, as mine failed in less than 1000 actuations, luckily under warranty. With anything high performance, you’ll bound to get issues same with performance cars at £100,000 plus, Ferrari’s are notoriously fickle and aren’t as reliable as folks may think.
Finally someone that gets it... it doesn’t mean every single canon 1d x iii is the same... just off one person messed up camera... have allot of friends who have 1dx iii without issues
I say clean the sensor and retest at 16fps. Clean again and do 14fps as comparative to the Nikon D6. Then clean the sensor one last time and do 12fps to see if lowering the frame rate helps.
I say that is a load of rubbish quite frankly. who wants to buy a camera at 6.5k with these issues straight out of the box? I think you are missing the point!
IR Photo-Tours Oh I agree with you 100% I was saying run a few more test to see if at lower fps does it do better? But yeah you're absolutely right, there's more problems than the one you identified like it locks up the OVF in continuous burst and goes to sleep. Canon admitted to that. It also doesn't have 24fps in 1080p, banding in e-shutter, the dual pixel autofocus in video is inferior to the Z6, no time lapse, and they've had some bad batteries only giving some 200 frames and not 2000+
Crazy thing is the Angry Photographer while having lots of good info and insight might be super wrong about both the 1DxIII and D6. I wonder if the D6 has the same problem.
@@dct124 Not sure but I hope the EOS R5 is better, it should be as it has no mirror to slap lubricant all over the sensor, and frame rates can be much higher on mirrorless, mirrorless is definitely the future in sport photography that is for sure.
IR Photo-Tours doesn't that camera have overheating problem? Canon def trying but like you said they are going a bit too fast to put products out and quality control is lacking.
@@dct124 yes it does and I cover that issue in my recent vlogs.
does this issue go away when shooting at wider apertures such as f8 or below.
john brown no, because it is about the high frame rate and lubricant on the mirror mechanism that is the problem, high mechanical shutter spreads the oil over the sensor, this in turn means you need to clean the sensor until the oil has finished spreading it all over the sensor, at 6.5k of camera only you would expect perfection, I know I would.
No it doesn't. You get soft halo effects all over your image but mainly around the top left in my experience.
Spare a thought for us 5D Classic paupers Ian. Regular sensor cleaning at home is a real pain, but parting with my MK1 is unthinkable.
I imagine every camera has a fault, somewhere.
Bummer if you have spent a big wedge, but hey ho, workaround issues will haunt the economically fortunate too. There is no such thing as perfection, no matter how much you spend... C'est la Vie !!
What do Canon say ? Have they given you a responce to this upload ??
I have owned all the 5D series and they are all great cameras, I now own the Canon EOSR and love it for usability reasons and end result of course.
I am so pleased i have seen your vlog, my 1Dx mki is exactly the same, i thought i hadn't cleaned the sensor correctly so i sent it away to get done professionally and it came back the same, now i know its not the sensor needing cleaning again, if anybody has a quick fix for this i would love to hear it
Thank you for your comment
@@ironian24 My Pleasure Ian, i mainly shoot sports but on the odd occasion i do a landscape i always get the spots and most of my landscapes are shot at F-11
Landscape, that is my genre and love it.
I have this issue on my 1dx 2. I shoot real estate and once I combine multiple exposures I see these dots everywhere in my photos. This is a legit issue.
Ryan Russo yes it is an issue and Canon really needs to address it as an issue at the price these cameras cost.
@@ironian24 just to give you an update, I'm sending my idx 2 into canon to have it cleaned/repaired. They said it's a known issue and it affects 1% of 1dx models. They claim canon released a statement regarding this last year.
I've owned an 1dx, 1dx2 and now have 1 dx3. Yep it is something accepted by high speed shooters. I think it's a fact of life for these cameras. Enough people complained back with the 1dx2. Doesn't look like it's something that can be fixed/McGyvered.
Thx for the comment buddy, I just think it a shame you pay all that money to then have to pay to get the sensor cleaned every time you use it, I honestly feel you should not have to do that, mirrorless cameras don't have the same problem because there is no mirror to flap oil over the sensor. It's just bonkers people accept an issue for that kind of money, make absolutely no sense to me at all. I own a few canon cameras and 2 of which are mirrorless and I cannot find fault with them yes they also are very reasonably priced.
@@ironian24 This is how business works. They make you pay $6500, and then they will charge you for maintenance/service. Welcome to the big company world!
so we all know it was an issue on the 1DX MKII ....
before spending so much money did u not think to question if issue had been resolved?
I did not buy the 1DX II or III for this reason.
I've had dust spot problems with the 1Ds III, 1DX and 1DX II, but not on the 1D IIn, 1D III and 1D IV. The 5D II, III and 5DS R does not show the same spot issue.
Canon were told about this problem with the 1dx my 2, mine is going back for a refund and lets hope Canon will recall this camera...!!
David Blake glad you got your money back! Couldn’t believe it when you showed me this. Nice video Ian 👍
Or just shoot in live view with the electronic shutter and the problem is gone.
@@Davitor1 really!!!
@@Davitor1 WHAT! £6500 to shoot in live view spare me the BS.
@@mattclayton2356 thank you.
Ian great video. Do you have any idea how to in the camera settings change the image type to Heif?
It will be in the red menu.
I have a Canon 1DX MkII and it has a shutter count of 179,000. I have never EVER had a problem with it. I have just ordered a MkIII and this certainly will NOT put me off. I am NOT convinced there is a problem, in my experience that is.
I hope not Steve, but it seems to be a problem here, just giving out info, people take it as they want of course.
This issue is real. I returned my 1DX Mark III today. I thought firstly too it’s dust but it’s not. Even the Canon service offered me a free of charge cleaning - guess why? They are aware of it. A friend there told me. That’s so ugly, I am really shocked. And my confidence into Canon is in the Toilette now.
Stefan1968ful I got the info I need. Thanks again for posting. I wonder if they will blame it on the Coronavirus.
Stefan1968ful can you show us some examples of you photographs having these spots?
David Ramos As I Said, I returned the 1DX Mark III, I just rented it out before purchase. The dots I am talking about are the same what you can see in the video here. These are oil splashes, I asked the local Canon dealer, it’s something we’ll known with 1DX (except for me, for me it was bit shocking).
Ian would you still recommend one as I’m still using a 1 d mark 3 and a 1 DS mark 3 and yes I’ve had to clean my sensors many times and a real pain the arse?
Personally speaking it seems some are worse than others, I have gone mirrorless now so I don't get that problem anymore, and by going mirrorless cameras are able to get the frame rate very high, the new upcoming Canon EOS R5 will have 20 fps silent and 12fps mechanical, plus you will get 45mp digic x sensor, that camera is sounding like a beast compared, so in short I would probably wait and see what develops with this new mirrorless from Canon.
I’m trying to decide between 1DX Mk3 and R5. I most shoot photos and not much video. I usually shoot events, so very dark places and people moving fast. With my 6Dii, 5 out of 10 shots are blurred & can’t use them. If money is not an issue, which one do u think is better?
Personally speaking I am waiting for my Canon eos r6 which is the equivalent of the IDx mkiii with great low light handling and at a sensible price also, image quality will be great too. save yourself 4k and buy some good RF lenses to go with it.
Canon has lost a step or 2, I bought their high end printer and was expecting a $250 rebate almost 2 years later no rebate and they wont help me
Still waiting to see if canon Recall...!!! I’m glade I got a refund on mine.
I doubt they will m8, as you can see from this vlog the amount of people who have this issue and do not care about it, many state just clean the sensor! my answer to that is why should I have to do anything to a brand new very expensive camera? personally speaking I believe this will be the last Mirrored camera you will see from Canon. next vlog I will explain why.
I initially thought I had been careless in changing the lens, but now on adjusting the dehaze in Lightroom I can see the EXACT the same dots (not dust) and spots. I have fired of the shutter on high speed again and the spots are increasing and the lens has mot be changed from the mount. The worrying fact is the image is obviously going to eventually get softer as more time progresses. Will I constantly need to clean the sensor on a 6K professional camera which will eventully cause debris to deposit on the sensor. These spots look very similar to the pattern i had with my old 1DX Mark 2 which were OIL SPOTS.
NOT HAPPY on a new piece of kit costing 6K !!
What are you going to do buddy, I would perhaps just wait for the mirrorless 5R if it is all what people are saying.
@@ironian24 Hello there Ian, will probably speak to WEX for a replacement or refund after this Covid situation. Canon in a failed position with this oil splatter and a camera that will not be in demand for the Olympics.
@@ironian24 Hello there Ian, will probably speak to WEX for a replacement or refund after this Covid situation. Canon in a failed position with this oil splatter and a camera that will not be in demand for the Olympics.
I am getting ready to do a video tonight on the 1DXM3 with some issues, mind if I site your videos and use a few frames? I'll obviously give you credit and recommend my viewers come to your channel to see the full details.
go for it buddy, I will take a look.
@@ironian24 Video published. I gave you a shout out at the end. I hope you got a bump in subs!
Ordinary Filmmaker A huge thank you buddy, much appreciated will do the same for you. What blog was it you did as you blog a lot lol. You have an honest and interesting channel.
@IR Photo-Tours- I’m watching this video in Feb 2021. Is there any update or fix on this issue?
I am not sure to be honest Aman.
There is a fix now, Canon finally acknowledges this issue thx to people like me shouting it out.
@@ironian24 So, how to get that fix?
Wow! I am still waiting for mine to show up but I guess I will have to cancel the order after watched your video.
Have you tried processing the photo with different imaging software. It could be artefacts introduced by the dehaze process.
I very much doubt it is anything to do with the software
The dehaze tool is there purely to enhance the issue so you can see it clearly, I did not need to do dehaze as you could see the issue.
I had this on the mark ii and was fairly sure the mark iii would have it too. Seems I was right. My mark ii had HUNDREDS of spots, and the people saying you never see them in real-world use are wrong. Obviously more are visible at f22 (not real-world use for me), but I had some visible at f4. Fine, you can edit it out of stills, but it's a pain for video. Canon told me it wasn't a known issue when my 1DXii was sent in, but lots of other people had reported it too so...
They cleaned mine, and a couple hundred shots later (literally a couple hundred) there were dozens and dozens of spots on it again, all circular implying it's liquid. Not good enough.
Thank you for your comment Tim and sorry to hear the news.
It is not on when you pay really good money for something you expect it to last.
@@ironian24 Completely agree
Min Canon Dx mac 2 har det også jeg kan rense og rense den
I am here to tell the truth nothing more, take what I say as you will, if you wish to spend your hard earned money on something that just is not good enough then do so, your choice, I am merely giving the information for you to have the choice on what you do, it is that simple. Lovely ole job.
You get a like from me for this. Thank you so much, my 1DX Mark III goes back now. Sony A9 II is my tool to go. I never had such issues with the Sony A9. It is not the only issue with the 1DX Mark III.
Thank you buddy, the truth will out.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours When I watched you video firstly I remember suddenly exactly these issues with dots I had in the past with the 1DX Mark II, I had no explanation for it except the sensor being dirty maybe. But it’s simply oil... what a hell. I also have an issue with the 1DX Mark III simply going into sleep mode after I took some images. Really a strange thing but I googled and there were others reporting this issue too. Canon is using us as beta testers?? I am really, really disappointed. That is it for me with Canon.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours By the way, did you have this issue too? I had this some times that after a shot I took the camera went into sleep mode. Maybe it’s a feature implemented by Canon? The camera sleeps when you take a boring shot? Just kidding. It’s embarrassing in case this is another issue with this 73000 Euro camera.
I have the 1dx mk3 and not seen this issue
Lucky you!!
Having owned 1dxii and mirrorless sony at the same time I had far more issues with spots on the sensor with mirrorless than the 1dxii. The sensor had to be cleaned almost every time before shooting video. Never had such problems with 1dxii. Also if I'd shoot mainly landscapes I would look for some other camera anyway than 1d series..
Yes but perhaps so but you did not own a Canon mirrorless such as the Eosr which covers it's own sensor when switched off to protect it from such things as dust.
@@ironian24 Actually I own one right now. 😅 Sensor stays noticeably cleaner on eos r compared to other mirrorless I have owned. Great feature.
@@amphotography1746 ok that's me shut up lol.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours haha
Well I used the replacement I picked up from WEX this morning. 50 shots in and I tested it and have somewhere in the region of 50 oil spots or debris. What a crock of sh*te. I've provided WEX with the images who are saying they will take this up with Canon UK. Where to go now as I've a heavy investment in EF prime glass for wildlife photography?
Sorry to hear that Steve, what a real pain, I know how you feel. Just wait for the Canon EOS R5 buddy at 12 fps mechanical and 20 digital with a 45mp digic x sensor I don't think you will go far wrong with that, I will be getting it, the announcement for the R5 is 9th July. I will be doing a review on this camera when it comes out.
@@ironian24 Thanks Ian. As I shoot bird in flight shots in the main I've always been put off EVF / mirrorless plus all my glass is EF mount and I can't afford to replace it with RF. If the AF is as good in the R5 maybe it's time to move and use an adapter for my EF lenses. If I hear back anything from WEX on their feedback from Canon I'll post it here for all to see.
@@stevemurnan1702 I own the EOS R and use the ef adapter, I can tell you it is seamless and has no issues at all with the EF glass, in fact the EOSR is quicker focusing with the ef glass than it was on my other dslrs. EF glass works like it is native to the camera body. I strongly recommend you wait for the R5 to come out and buy an adapter at £99 for you EF glass.
I had the 1dx mark I. Same nightmare.
Is it only on YOUR 1Dx Mark III or do you know for a fact that this is on each and every Canon 1Dx Mark III in the world?
Is using so much dehaze a fair test? If I use a lot on other cameras I get distortions.
thx for your comment Harry, no dehaze right up is probably not a fair test as you would not normally do this in processing, it is just to show you all that there are oil spots on the sensor, it will get worse and worse to the extent it will ruin your images.
Well, since I can’t find one anyway, now I don’t feel as bad. Does the issue go away with use and cleaning I wonder? Like a break in period? I don’t know
I am not sure you can clean what looks like oil off a sensor after every single use.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours first off, I need to see some credentials. Are you a Nikon rep? 😂😂😂
@@MrGflan Lol no, a canon freak if anything, been a Canon man for as long as I can remember.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours haha cool. So let me ask your opinion. I desperately need a good indoor sports camera right now for a few tournaments. Let’s say canon fixed this issue in the future. I can get a used clean 1DX for about $1400 bucks. Would it be more worth it to get the 1DX 2 and pay double the price or can the 1Dx do about the same for indoors action? My logic is to buy the 1Dx now and then in the near future get the version 3 if they fix the issues. Thanks
@@MrGflan I think the 1dx is a great camera especially for the money now.
Wow thats pretty crazy!
It is and it is not the first time.
I try it and check it on my 1Dx MIII and I don't have this issue at any fps, probably you have or a bad batch of IR filter or a oil leak on the mirror mechanic, send it back.
Btw maybe you don't know that also a mirrorless have a mechanical shooter 😂😂
PS don't shoot on a cloud next time shoot to a softbox ;-).
One would assumed this issue would have crept up during it's testing by its selected photographers beforehand.
NIkCan you know what they say about assumptions? They are the mother of all fxxx ups
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours Assigned testers must have been well paid to ignore this fault
@@java5111 well then its not an honest review by all accounts and look towards like reviews by various people that don't have issues tied to one brand.
I started watching this and I was like who is this idiot bad mouthing this amazing camera and then I opened an image that was taken against the sky and there were a lot of spots when i turned the haze up. Wow, that is super disappointing. I had the mark II and never noticed this but recently i saw some images with spots on it and figured it was my lens. Thanks for the info!
lol, not so much an idiot but a truth teller buddy.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours ha ha yes sorry! I realized that after seeing the truth. I guess I will have to periodically send it in to get the sensor cleaned.
@@skylerlivingston yep sorry to say that is all we Canon 1DX users can do, unless you notice it when you buy one then they will refund you the money. This is not good considering the amount you spend on what you think id the top of the range camera.
I’ve heard this from someone else! Shocking 😳
I didn't get from the video how expensive is the camera? Is it 6400 pounds? 6600?
£6500
Regardless of if this is an issue or not (appears to be divided), but seriously, if you're pushing your dehaze slider more than 10+ points, you're probably not in the right profession. Dehaze causes 'almost' more artefact issues in images than any other adjustment outside of exposure. But if you still think it's an issue, just shoot in live view with the electronic shutter hahaha. Better focus coverage and faster lol, and arguably no shutter lube to be ejected through use haha. I know that's not the point but meh!
Thx for watching and your in put, just so you know, dehaze is not something I use in my editing as I hopefully show in my photography as a whole, however I used it here to highlight the issue in hand nothing more. I am pretty sure this video states that as well.
I own one and have 10k actuations with zero issues.
Your one of the lucky ones then.
@@ironian24 I have a few friends that own them too and no issues at all.
This is very good video 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
thank you for the comment buddy.
1Dx lll has been pixel peeped like crazy by many experienced professionals for over a month now. 99% of feedback on image quality and general performance has been very positive.
yes granted, and i am just pointing out this issue with it, other than this issue there is 2 more issues with focusing points not being where they should be but i felt this was more of an issue, I feel If you are going to but this camera then you need to know what the down sides are at the moment thats all.
I shoot with it since day one and i dont have a problem. I almost shoot only burst and dont have a problem. I used the A9 and the A9ll and i hate the EVF. I used 3 of the 1dxmll and no problem at all and i know a lot of people who also use those camera’s and none of them have problems like this. Check out youtube and how many people have there issues?
Nice to hear you don't have any issues well done, but as you can see by the comments many people have got the issue, just because no one has spoke about this issue on youtube means nothing, it merely suggests they have not seen the issue themselves yet, I would bet if they did what I did in this vlog they would see what I see simples.
This is puzzling, how can Canon ignore such an issue?
Yep Surprises me too.
Strange how scores of professional photographers who have reviewed this camera have not noticed any of this stuff.
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Well maybe they just have not noticed it yet, have you thought of that ?
@@ironian24 maybe, but so many photograpers have reviewed that camera, had them in hands few weeks, some of them bought it and untill your video just one complain, no 24p.
Ian Robinson has noticed and is a pro
@@davidblake3941 yes, he is the only one that has noticed! lol
Interesting to know I have not seen it on my 1 dx mark 2 but now I wont upgrade to the 3 thank you very much great review
Just an update my friends: The more you use the camera, the less of an issue it will become. Put about 2000 actuations thru it. Clean the sensor. Continue to shoot. Over time you will see it will become less of an issue. Just some light at the end of the tunnel. :) Trust me the PRO's of this monster greatly outweigh the CONS. ) Sta safe everyone. :)) Toronto, Canada,
Good ad for Mirrorless cameras then?
I would have thought Canon would have made the 1dx 3 mirrorless, less moving parts, my Canon M6 mkii does 14 fps that is mirrorless, I think we will see the end of Dslrs soon.
It seems to me mirror less can do good fps M6 mkii 14fps 1dx mark III 16fps
Moi jais jamais eu un seul problème avec le 1dx mark2 trop top!!!
J'avoue que je me méfie du mark3, et que jais entendue pas que du bon, et même je trouve que les couleur du mark 3 et un peux pousser, ça c'est juste mon commentaires!!
All 1D's have oil spots (if your looking for them), or all of mine have, my 1DX3 has about 15 MINOR spots at f45 on my 500II(shot at 700mm), who shoots at f45? Then to dehaze and look for them? You will find them on nearly any ILC, I agree it's tough to accept on a new camera, but sadly its fact of 1D life. As a pro I dont quite understand why your so down about it, return it to the dealer, another will be the same, send it to CPS or hand it over at an event, clean it your self, it does ease over time, with all the moving parts involved and the speed it must be impossible to avoid some debris on the sensor, I don't worry about it unless it starts effecting my images and it never has, f16 would be a high for me 99% of the time, maybe studio work or some moon shots at f11?? Anyway, for those who read this buy one, this is an incredible camera, and you should get a high level of support for issues like this, Wex would change mine no question I KNOW, but, tbh this is making a big deal over nothing, oh and please blogger, Regards.
We shot at f/16 not f/45 did you listen to the video?
@@ironian24 Stopped down is stopped down right? F16, f22, f whatever...? Am I missing the point of stopping down and looking for dust and oil?
Btw I did agree about your points.
@@ironian24 So, what are you going to do Ian? Return it? Have it cleaned? Like I say I agree about your points 100% But we have both been through this before right, I think I have grown to accept it, should I?? Like I say, I do agree.
@@arthurbikemad I will return it because I don't want to be cleaning my sensor every time I shoot, I can only see it getting worse so sadly it will go back. maybe I will go for the mki instead, I owned the mki camera before and had no issues like this with that one, my personal opinion is that the shutter moves so quick that it just splatters the oil all over the sensor, so why should I be cleaning the sensor every time I go for a shoot I ask myself, I do expect better when you save your hard earned money up to spend £6500.00 and get what I think is a major issue for me.
@@ironian24 I agree with you, I asked myself the question "does it effect my images?" Truly can you see it in real world shooting, do you shoot f16? Are you giving up an advantage by not having the Mk3 to hand? For me the camera is so good I dont wish to change, even the R5 may have issues from the mechanical shutter? It's a tough situation.
I think that's just sensor dust.
definitely not sensor dust, look closely at the donut style spot, that is conducive to oil or some kind of lubricant, if it were dust it would be a solid look to each spot
I understand its New product & expensive also. But can't you send it to service center again for sensor CLEANING & make them understand. Even the issue still persist, can't you clean the sensor on your own using V Swab? Because i agree with your issue but i feel you should have given a solution at the END especially to those who are NEW owner of CANON 1DX MARK III rather than letting the OWNERS feel confused or agitated who are beginner/hobbyist etc. Because video is informative but at the same time distasteful when you claimed you moved on to MIRROR LESS. So, basically you are saying i will create a confusion rather than giving the SOLUTION. huuuhhh...Didn't Expected from such a Professional...
People cars are always getting recalled and you still buy them, one person says canon is shit and everyone of you jump ship... wow!!! Just wow!!! Followers the lot of you... RUclips has become out of control, one person says something and everyone is in a panic... guess loose Lina sinks ships... cause their are a thousands of other reviews on this 1d x iii that have no issues....
Your entitled to your opinion I guess 😃, I won't be jumping ship any time soon, I happen to love what Canon do. Just stating facts and giving my viewers the knowledge I have found, what you do with that information is completely up to you.
@@ironian24 yes I am, why people just follow is crazy... if you tube is your source of information someone will have simmering negative about everything, your just not gonna trying cause some RUclips person says it’s crap... that’s just stupid... I see bad reviews all the time , I still research the product, this cancel culture has gotten completely out of control.
Hello brother very nice brother
Ohhhh well I won’t be getting one of them now
It is actually a good camera other than that issue.
If you have to up your dehaze by more than 10, you probably should be using a pro camera like a 1dx. Also, you haven't proven it's not dust.
upping the dehaze is purely for this video, not something I do in processing normally, you can see it is not dust it is oil, oil on glass separates, and with dehaze maxed out you can clearly see this. I hope that makes sense Jon and thx for the comment much appreciated.
Ian Robinson at IR-Photo-Tours very polite reply. Anyway I have only received delivery of my 1DX III yesterday. Haven’t had chance to test it yet. Slightly concerned.
Canon has finally acknowledged this is an issue with excessive oil in the mirror box read what they have to say.
U obviously own nikon. . I'm glad you got my humour
Alex Kruyer don't swear at me lol.
@@ironian24 glad u got the joke.
@@alexkruyer yes definitely got that joke thx :)
I'd be very careful what you say. Firstly, is this a one-off issue that YOU have and noone else has experienced, or are loads of people reporting it? Secondly, you casually claim its not dust, its a brand new sensor. How scientific of you! So you don't check it out and see if there is dust (new or not, irrelevant) you just brazenly claim it isn't dust. If it turns out to be dust or turns out it's a one-off faulty sensor, then you are responsible for ruining the reputation of a camera. Make sure you get your facts right before blabbing to the world what you believe. You said it yourself that you're no expert (regarding sensor issues).
Watch this post and I think you will see I am not the only one.
Firstly this is not a one-off issue, Secondly I had the MK2 doing the same thing it IS an issue on the 1DX Mk3 the video shows it. Do you use a 1DX Mk2 or 3 ??
Thx for the comment, where I live you have freedom of speech especially when it is factual, I do not need to be a scientist to shoot at a sky at f/16 at 16fps to show the spots, have a look at the images at the end of the vlog some are un-touched and still show the spots.
@@ironian24 I simply recommended you to be careful what you say. I'm not the one who could get sued, so not my problem. Where I live we also have freedom of speech.
Oh and as for your freedom of speech, I notice you changed the name of the video LOL. Anyway, I enjoy your videos, so I'm sorry my only ever comment was a negative one. You have a good channel.
@@davidblake3941 I didn't say it is a one-off instance, that's why I posed the question. If lots of people report this issue then obviously it is an issue. If they don't, maybe it is a one-off issue. If this was an issue on the 1DXii, it would be very possible on the 1DXiii. Why wasn't it blabbed all over the internet for the 1DXii? You know how people love to attack cameras, especially the anti-Canon brigade. I never saw one video on it. Obviously, that doesn't mean there wasn't one, but it certainly wasn't common knowledge.
No, I don't use a 1DX series camera.
Clean your lens
I don't use oil on my lens ;)