His level of hatred towards Titus will make him fall into chaos for sure, not only that, but by acting like this while Titus is absolved by the inquisition, made a primaris and reintegrated to the Ultramarines is pretty much going against Calgar and subsecuently Guilliman too, dude is cooked.
Not really sure you can call it hate. He was the first Ultramarine to greet you and be relieved you survived. It was only when Chaos shenanigans started, that suspicion erose again and it makes sense. Titus have survived things he should not have been able to.
@@thehalofan12345 It does make sense to be worried and have an eye on Titus with all that happened before, but still it feels like he has a vendetta with him, will see.
@@santi3991 I mean he was there to relieve and supported and accept he had have served his penance. And it is true suspicion can never fade from someone that can touch the warp and survive without being a psyker or agent of chaos. But I believe Titus is a psyker and maybe become a librarian in the future.
It does fit but I cant help but think "The codes astartes says youre supposed to bring your suspiscion of chaos to the Chaplain." "You know what that's fair. Ill do better. I'll BECOME the chaplain" "Wait no!"
Leandros broke the rules twice Reporting Titus to the inquisition instead of his chapter. Taking off his chaplain helmet in front a non-chaplain astartes. So yeah he gonna be a traitor in SM3
@@Jabong808The BLACK TEMPLARS? You mean the same black templars that utterly despise the codex and shit on it at every opportunity while cruising around at legion strength?
that depends on the chapter, not all chapters its against the rules for a chaplain to remove his helmet, there are even chaplains out there who do not wear helmets in combat unless its needed. I don't know what ultramarine doctrine is, but Blood Angels there is no rule about a chaplain taking off his helmet in front of other marines.
The helmet thing is more about removing your helmet in front of outsiders to the chapter. They were on an ultramarine ship so it’s not really a problem unless he’s conducting the official duties of his office. Such as the sermon he performs for the company earlier in the game. This was a conversation between two brothers of the chapter so it was a little more informal. Now about reporting Titus to the inquisition… that was a significant breach in the codex Astartes. I get the feeling that’s why he was made a chaplain. Not as an honor but as a punishment. Basically forcing him to do the job so he can understand how he messed up. Chaplains don’t get that much combat experience and battle honors.
@@michaelkimberling7307 Chaplains (outside super religious chapters) don’t get any personal battle honours, everything they do is instead for the sake of, and in the name of the Chapter
As someone else already pointed out. Leandros IS helping Titus throughout the game. He is the first to greet you, explain your new situation. But he also calls you in when appropiate. His duty as a chaplain sees him call titus and the others in when he recieves reports of infighting (First Imurah encounter) and he accordingly chastized them (Notice them, not just titus. He chastized Gadriel for aiming a gun at his immediate superior, titus)
Then proceeds to say that he will not hesitate like them if he suspects a flicker of corruption.. bro is a danger to the whole chapter, the perfect puppet for Chaos.. just send an agent to repeat the same lie about an Ultramarine trying to sabotage his squad and Leandros will gladly kill his brother on the spot (shoot first, ask questions later).
@@AndreiTosh Considering how insidious Chaos actually is, his paranoia isn't unwarranted. We know he's wrong because we're the player but so far as he knows, Titus has survived contact with Chaos multiple times. For all he or Titus knows, Titus may simply not be aware that Chaos has tainted his soul .
People hold old grudges too much. Dude was a young snitch in the past, but he grew and became a Chaplain. Chaplain rank is given to the most devoted Marines who proved to influence chapter positively. So I see him as being likeable and cool currently. Maybe it's just me liking Chaplains.
I think its a preference thing, in Space Marine 2 Leandros is constantly going on about "you better not be faltering" or "I will report you for heresy if I sniff it", so everytime he speaks, I'm sitting there like "holy shit just shut up", it's like his only role is to be an annoying asshole
@@Schinak I think you can cut out the pointless comment at the beginning. I know he is rank locked, but perhaps I mistook him for 30k Dark Angels' Redemptor.
@@Schinak... This isn't the modern day military. You don't gain rank just from time served, many Marines remain regular Marines their entire lives, never moving up. They would never make someone, as important as a Chaplain, as a position of punishment.
Leandros was always corrupted by chaos. Just as Tzeentch planned on Gria all those centuries ago. After all he kept going on about how it was impossible for a marine to not be corrupted being so close to warp energy.
@@ballonhoho6363 I doubt it, he was dead in the first game. Seems people unfamiliar with the setting think dead spacemarines are interred into a dreadnought, it's for *almost* dead spacemarines, like maybe they're like Darth Vader where they have no limbs and have been burned half to death
“Fierce was my wrath when I heard of your detainment” I like to think Papa Smurf made Leandros a chaplain as punishment Basically wanted to keep a close eye on him Plus bringing Titus back into the fold must’ve killed Leandros inside Being a chapter chaplain ain’t as good a promotion as it sounds
It both prevents Leandros from having any command authority over anyone, protects his identity (presumably seeing as no one mentions him) as the other Marines were likely _unimpressed_ by him betraying his Captain to outsiders and the freaking Inquisition, and it forces him to watch the rest of the Ultramarines interpret the Codex as needed instead of blindly following it to the letter (contrary to the memes, this is how the Ultramarines actually treat it, they're not the Red Scorpions) and can do nothing but mald quietly about it.
It was 100 years. Says so multiple times in the game. Titus has 4 service studs, each represents 50 years (Gadriel says Titus is over 200 years, not 400). Leandros has 2 service studs, so he is over 100
@@KárolyVarga-t7d aa ok, is there confirmation what the Ultramarines has with it's studs then? Or I guess by that logic of the story, it must be 50 with gold. Unless titus was like 200 years in space marine 1.
He's a Chaplain his whole job is to inspire his brothers and make sure their spiritual purity and loyalty to the chapter and the Emperor. Chaplains are supposed to be suspicious of corruption and chaos. Being a Chaplain really suits Leandros.
yeah... aside from being a MASSIVE hypocrite. HE violated the codex astartes in the first game, if a brother is suspected of heresy or serious wrongdoing he is to be reported to the nearest CHAPLAIN or LIBRARIUS, not the INQUISITION
@@vhaelen326 I always wondered about that. Where the hell was the Chaplain in the first game. Consider Titus was the captain of 2nd Company you would think that he would have a Chaplain with his company when on campaign. Plus around that time this was before Guilliman return and Ultramarines were quite strict about the Codex. I'm surprised Titus never got in trouble for not following the Codex, because look what happened to another Ultramarine who also viewed the Codex as a guide Captain Uriel Ventris. he was a very good Captain he helped saved a planet from Tyranids by killing a Norn-Queen but his Sergeant had reported Ventris to Chapter Command for his breaching Codex Astartes. Uriel was spared of execution because of his good record as a Captain, but he was given the Death Oath by Calgar. To be exiled from the chapter to go on a penance crusade that penance crusade went into the Eye of terror. I would not be surprised if Titus was reported by one of his marines he would have been given Death Oath instead of Execution.
I liked how Leandros turned out. He may be an insufferable pedant, but those two service studs on his brow prove he's not incompetent. Personally, I think Leandros is a good character, if not a good person.
I legitimately shouted “How the fuck are you still alive?! How are you a Chaplin of all things?!” Seriously the man hates Titus for his mere existence like the Cadians hate Abbadon at this point
chaplaincy is not always considered a promotion just like a black shield in the deathwatch, giving leandros' actions of going directly against the codex (going to an inquisitor over the chapter chaplain) it wouldn't surprise me if this was penance for leandros as his basically relegated to priest/military police duties no glorious death and honour like his battle brothers
@@babayagagaming123why are there so many players that are saying that chaplains aren’t a front line position? Chaplains are routinely in combat motivating their brothers to greatness.
@@kosherbeefcake no, they are not "routinely in combat" a chaplain being in combat in itself rare, as most of their time is in sermons focusing their battle brothers capabilities, they teach aspirants about chapter culture, they maintain chapter relics, guide the moral principles of the chapter, Chaplains in the most layman terms possible are the HR(human resources) Department/Spiritual leaders of space marine chapters, how often you see a HR person get off their desk ? rarely if ever, but when they do someone is usually getting the sack, same with a chaplain, how often do they go into battle ? rarely but when they do its fucking worthy of a story or a piece of art, perfect example being leandros in space marine 2 he did sweet fuck all except looking cool until the last cutscene where his finally joining a mission (where we dont even know if his there to actually partake in said mission or again sit around and sound/look cool) TL:DR chaplains are the HR managers/Spiriual Leaders/ A position of symbolism FIRST AND FOREMOST and a battle brother second EDIT : im talking about generic chaplaincy over the broader settings, yes you have instances like blood angel chaplains who specifically lead the death company etc etc but again we're talking the norm not the 1%
Best part was after the prologue, she wondered if leandros would be in the game. Literally the very next scene showed the chaplain.... lol I watched chat like a hawk, praying nobody would spoil it lol
The unfortunate thing for me is that, while i did my best to avoid any spoilers until i played the game, ONE video title i saw that was just simply "Chaplain reveals his identity", and i IMMEDIATELY thought it was going to be big bitch boi Leandros.
I was really chocked, as I also thought this guy was badass and awesome looking, but ones he removed that helmet, it all disapeared XD but being a chaplain really suits Leandros to be honest dispite being chocked.
This was exactly my reaction. Right down to figuring it out just a fraction of a second before he spoke. These two games together tell one of the best action stories I’ve played in years.
Or maybe sees another Ultramarine whom he led down the path of blind adherence to the Codex fall to Chaos specifically because he refused to deviate from the letter of the book and he has a Come to Jesus moment.
No cause I also started the game and was like “fuck yeah this guy has our back. He’s being so kind. He rules.” Then that scene happens and I was fucking gut punched.
Sold the emperor’s most stalwart soldier to a chaos-corrupted inquisitor, going against the rule of his own chapter. This assh0le has to be a chaos puppet I swear to god… the only way this ends is that you get to kill his demon form as SM IIIs final boss.
Titus did a tour with Deathwing. Thee. "I'm your Huckleberry", Doc Holiday no fux , rules are for losers , winning Titus! His dead, scene it all, turned black eyes, swung full circle blazing.
If I were Titus in that moment, I’d grab Leandros by his armor and say “you violated the Codex Astartes. A Chaplain must never remove his helmet before a non-Chaplain. I must bring you to the Captain for questioning and inquiry”. Then again, Titus is a better man than I.
The best part is, he became the chaplain BECAUSE calgar fucking hate him for the snitch on Titus. He decided that if he is left alone to grow up, he can become very important captain, and Throne protect, even a chaptermaster. So, where can he promote a very codex-caring space marine and be sure he wont fuck up again, as someone important? A CHAPLAIN
That's not how things work. He would most likely have stayed a squad member, and at best a sergeant of a squad. People seem not to understand that Marines don't get promoted on service time, they get promoted on capability. The vast majority of Space Marines never go beyond being a simple battle brother..
Best thing about this reveal? To become a chaplain, someone puts you there and you have to shut up and not talk for years on end before completing your studies. That which came after he violated the rules of talking with the inquisition before the chapter master likely with known intent. Especially since certain Chaplains aren’t suppose to be on the battlefield. Meaning after Leandros snitched, his chapter master sent him to become chaplain to shut up for those hundred plus years and took away a chance at him fighting chaos like he always wanted to perform religious duties as a reward for his accusations 💀 It’s a theory, but the one that makes the most sense lore wise with Warhammer rankings and rules. But honestly a funny once since in return for telling Leandros lost everything that deemed him a fighter unless they allow him back on the field
While Leandros over stepped by contacting the inquisition instead of reporting to the chaplain he was right in reporting Titus. It is every brothers duty to be vigilant of taint within their brothers. Leandros was doing as he was trained to do. As Titus himself said, leandros lived by the codex. Even Titus never denied that what leandros did was wrong. I believe the only issue in what leandros did was he overstepped by contacting the inquisition instead of going to his chapter chaplain.
I honestly think it would be cool, if there was a redemption arc for Leandros. Titus said it himself in the game. He didn't address Leandros' concerns and Leandros' fear wasn't unfounded given what we know about 40k and Chaos in particular. And he must have some qualities, otherwise he would've never have been made a fucking Chaplain, which is a very important role in most Space Marine Chapters. Also Captain Achuran seems to be more hostile throughout the game towards Tits than the Chaplain. Which is also why in the Void they chose Achuran to tell Titus that Lord Calgar let him rot in the Death Watch for over 100 years, not the Chaplain. And there wasn't even a vision of Leandros ever, which probably means that Titus understands that he himself failed, when he didn't address Leandros' concerns about corruption in the first game. After all he outright says it to Gadriel when he forgives him for turning on him. Leandros isn't a snitch, just very cautious when it comes to chaos corruption. The Codex Astartes, so Guilliman himself, is probably to blame for his actions. These are Ultramarines after all, not any of the other chapters that go against the Codex regularly like the Black Templars or Space Wolves.
I want to see Leandros encounter the same levels of chaos Titus had and succeed in resisting it. I want him to never have a resolution with Titus, either because he's dead or somewhere else. I want him to be crushed with that guilt and the knowledge that of all the brothers he condemned it was Titus. Preferably we see him getting more depressed and more suicidal through other POVs of other protagonists in other 40k games God Emperor willing. Have him be like a certain character in AoT, he'll want death and charge into but he'll never have it lmao
well he did in the first game, as did sidonus. and they couldn't resist it. Thats his whole point. There IS something unnatural about Titus. this is not a simple matter of "he had stronger willpower" and its not like he is a blank or something. He IS susceptible to warp magics, but also somehow can better resist them.
In a way Calgar had his hands tied with Leandros. If he had refused to raise him to his rank it would be seen as a poor example to the rest of the ultramarines. They will not come forward with their own suspicions or speak out against corruption when necessary. Not all are as Titus is. Hes the lucky one. Chaos corrupts many.
Wait I just realized a technical error I think 🤔 leandros has two gold studs (each is 100 years) and Titus has four silver (each equaling 50 years) does that mean Leandros has been in service as long as Titus???? He also didn't have any studs in the first game. If the game conically starts 100 years after the first he should at most have only one gold stud
I been feeling the same way. So many pitfalls and things went wrong in my past. Things aren’t enjoyable, things feel wrong no matter what I do, and everyone I encounter is mostly negative. What’s going on??
I wouldn’t hate leandros so bad for being against Titus bending the code if he wasn’t a hypocrite and breaking the code reporting Titus to the inquisition
Literal Gungrave style top 10 anime betrayals :DD Sergeant Piss-pants here is afraid/jealous of Titus' accomplishments and gets him put in witch tryals.. Titus is sent to the shitter for 100 years and he literally crawls back from the dead, only to be bossed around by now chaplain Piss-pants who's been living the life all this time.. :D
His level of hatred towards Titus will make him fall into chaos for sure, not only that, but by acting like this while Titus is absolved by the inquisition, made a primaris and reintegrated to the Ultramarines is pretty much going against Calgar and subsecuently Guilliman too, dude is cooked.
Not really sure you can call it hate. He was the first Ultramarine to greet you and be relieved you survived. It was only when Chaos shenanigans started, that suspicion erose again and it makes sense. Titus have survived things he should not have been able to.
@@thehalofan12345 It does make sense to be worried and have an eye on Titus with all that happened before, but still it feels like he has a vendetta with him, will see.
@@santi3991 I mean he was there to relieve and supported and accept he had have served his penance.
And it is true suspicion can never fade from someone that can touch the warp and survive without being a psyker or agent of chaos.
But I believe Titus is a psyker and maybe become a librarian in the future.
He's a chaplain - keeping astartes in order is his job. Calgar or Guilliman must have been aware of his feelings about this and discussed it.
Dude wouldn't be a chaplain if he was gonna fall to chaos. It's just as rare as Sororitas falling to chaos
It does fit but I cant help but think
"The codes astartes says youre supposed to bring your suspiscion of chaos to the Chaplain."
"You know what that's fair. Ill do better. I'll BECOME the chaplain"
"Wait no!"
Making him a chaplain is a huge punishment in a way. Now he is under direct scrutiny from other chaplains fairly constantly.
@@josh4601I think that’s called getting kicked upstairs
Leandros really looked at Asmodai and said "You know what? Fuck it, I can do it too !"
@@jetpilledmyron2056 Asmodai: INTERROGATE!?
@@josh4601that’s true, but honestly that’s the best place for Leandros to be for him and everyone else. He’s born to be a hard nosed chaplain
Leandros broke the rules twice
Reporting Titus to the inquisition instead of his chapter.
Taking off his chaplain helmet in front a non-chaplain astartes.
So yeah he gonna be a traitor in SM3
No hope for this man. Maybe the Black Templars would take him in this time
@@Jabong808The BLACK TEMPLARS? You mean the same black templars that utterly despise the codex and shit on it at every opportunity while cruising around at legion strength?
that depends on the chapter, not all chapters its against the rules for a chaplain to remove his helmet, there are even chaplains out there who do not wear helmets in combat unless its needed. I don't know what ultramarine doctrine is, but Blood Angels there is no rule about a chaplain taking off his helmet in front of other marines.
The helmet thing is more about removing your helmet in front of outsiders to the chapter. They were on an ultramarine ship so it’s not really a problem unless he’s conducting the official duties of his office. Such as the sermon he performs for the company earlier in the game. This was a conversation between two brothers of the chapter so it was a little more informal.
Now about reporting Titus to the inquisition… that was a significant breach in the codex Astartes. I get the feeling that’s why he was made a chaplain. Not as an honor but as a punishment. Basically forcing him to do the job so he can understand how he messed up. Chaplains don’t get that much combat experience and battle honors.
@@michaelkimberling7307 Chaplains (outside super religious chapters) don’t get any personal battle honours, everything they do is instead for the sake of, and in the name of the Chapter
Love the eyebrow raise Titus does
Leandros: 💀 -> 👨🦲
Titus: 😐-> 🤨
As if Titus was thinking what we players were thinking: “yeah, I had a feeling it was you under there.”
Titus' eyebrow, "this asshole!?"
As someone else already pointed out. Leandros IS helping Titus throughout the game. He is the first to greet you, explain your new situation. But he also calls you in when appropiate. His duty as a chaplain sees him call titus and the others in when he recieves reports of infighting (First Imurah encounter) and he accordingly chastized them (Notice them, not just titus. He chastized Gadriel for aiming a gun at his immediate superior, titus)
He got some character development, I like him more in Space Marine 2
Then proceeds to say that he will not hesitate like them if he suspects a flicker of corruption.. bro is a danger to the whole chapter, the perfect puppet for Chaos.. just send an agent to repeat the same lie about an Ultramarine trying to sabotage his squad and Leandros will gladly kill his brother on the spot (shoot first, ask questions later).
@@AndreiTosh Considering how insidious Chaos actually is, his paranoia isn't unwarranted. We know he's wrong because we're the player but so far as he knows, Titus has survived contact with Chaos multiple times. For all he or Titus knows, Titus may simply not be aware that Chaos has tainted his soul .
People hold old grudges too much. Dude was a young snitch in the past, but he grew and became a Chaplain. Chaplain rank is given to the most devoted Marines who proved to influence chapter positively. So I see him as being likeable and cool currently. Maybe it's just me liking Chaplains.
I think its a preference thing, in Space Marine 2 Leandros is constantly going on about "you better not be faltering" or "I will report you for heresy if I sniff it", so everytime he speaks, I'm sitting there like "holy shit just shut up", it's like his only role is to be an annoying asshole
Leandro’s looks like the type to get corrupted by chaos and then blame Titus
Leandros*
Titus has more service studs in his noggin than Leandros, his bling outblings Leandros's bling
He’s also older than Leandros so it adds up
@@xinnoplayz warp travel shenanigans could hypothetically have let Leandros catch up, which would have been awkward
That means he's better in 40K. Bling is the end-all, be-all of authority and asskicking in this setting of badassery.
@@SorchaSublime Warp stops or slows down the aging process more often than not.
What helped him catch up was Titus' statis before joining Blackwatch.
Who gave Bitchandros such impecable drip?
Who knows, Leandros probably matured and shit. He had 100 years to. He's probably just sticking to the chaplain guns
lord calgar, because he knew leandros was right
@Ian-fw2fp How tf was Leandros right, you're spitting actual BS
@@dj11o9erHe didn’t mature because he’s still fucking with Titus who had proved himself pure multiple times.
@@Ian-fw2fpI had no idea there were Leandros simps 💀
I love that our hatred for Leandros is universal among us fans
Yes
I personally like him in SM2. He is actually helpful and he is a Chaplain too. No Marine gets that rank for nothing
@@Help_In_Need shows how little of the lore you know. Being Made chaplain is both a punishment and a promotion depending on the situation
@@Schinak I think you can cut out the pointless comment at the beginning. I know he is rank locked, but perhaps I mistook him for 30k Dark Angels' Redemptor.
@@Schinak... This isn't the modern day military. You don't gain rank just from time served, many Marines remain regular Marines their entire lives, never moving up. They would never make someone, as important as a Chaplain, as a position of punishment.
Imagine in the third game, titus fight with calgar and roboutte while leandros fell to chaos, how ironic
Leandros was always corrupted by chaos. Just as Tzeentch planned on Gria all those centuries ago. After all he kept going on about how it was impossible for a marine to not be corrupted being so close to warp energy.
I miss Sidonus.
Nobody remembers Sidonus
I hope a future update lets us know what happened to him.
@@robertnelson9599 well he died when Nemeroth appeared
@@the98themperoroftheholybri33 there alway a place for hope and let hope sidonus might be shoved into a dreadnaught some where out there
@@ballonhoho6363 I doubt it, he was dead in the first game.
Seems people unfamiliar with the setting think dead spacemarines are interred into a dreadnought, it's for *almost* dead spacemarines, like maybe they're like Darth Vader where they have no limbs and have been burned half to death
Who?
“Fierce was my wrath when I heard of your detainment”
I like to think Papa Smurf made Leandros a chaplain as punishment
Basically wanted to keep a close eye on him
Plus bringing Titus back into the fold must’ve killed Leandros inside
Being a chapter chaplain ain’t as good a promotion as it sounds
It both prevents Leandros from having any command authority over anyone, protects his identity (presumably seeing as no one mentions him) as the other Marines were likely _unimpressed_ by him betraying his Captain to outsiders and the freaking Inquisition, and it forces him to watch the rest of the Ultramarines interpret the Codex as needed instead of blindly following it to the letter (contrary to the memes, this is how the Ultramarines actually treat it, they're not the Red Scorpions) and can do nothing but mald quietly about it.
A Chaplain's position is a lifelong appointment. You never rise in rank, never get any stripes or accolades.
he was literally Under 100 years old possibly 30 at best its been 200 years since then
Thought it was 100 years?
It was 100 years. Says so multiple times in the game. Titus has 4 service studs, each represents 50 years (Gadriel says Titus is over 200 years, not 400). Leandros has 2 service studs, so he is over 100
@@vincentdurocher9699 i thought those gold studs represent 100 years? And silver was 50 and ebony or something was 10?
@@TheRealRealMClovindepends on the chapter. (The lore a bit inconsistent about this, so the overall consensus is that it varies chapter by chapter).
@@KárolyVarga-t7d aa ok, is there confirmation what the Ultramarines has with it's studs then?
Or I guess by that logic of the story, it must be 50 with gold.
Unless titus was like 200 years in space marine 1.
I was like "You son of a bitch!!!" when that reveal happened.
I was genuinely surprised with that reveal, loved it!
Never forget our biggest bro lost to us: Sergent Sidonus. Bro died to a chaos deity but he took down a good number of daemons with him. Rip Sidonus
He's a Chaplain his whole job is to inspire his brothers and make sure their spiritual purity and loyalty to the chapter and the Emperor.
Chaplains are supposed to be suspicious of corruption and chaos.
Being a Chaplain really suits Leandros.
yeah... aside from being a MASSIVE hypocrite.
HE violated the codex astartes in the first game, if a brother is suspected of heresy or serious wrongdoing he is to be reported to the nearest CHAPLAIN or LIBRARIUS, not the INQUISITION
@@vhaelen326 I always wondered about that. Where the hell was the Chaplain in the first game.
Consider Titus was the captain of 2nd Company you would think that he would have a Chaplain with his company when on campaign. Plus around that time this was before Guilliman return and Ultramarines were quite strict about the Codex.
I'm surprised Titus never got in trouble for not following the Codex, because look what happened to another Ultramarine who also viewed the Codex as a guide Captain Uriel Ventris. he was a very good Captain he helped saved a planet from Tyranids by killing a Norn-Queen but his Sergeant had reported Ventris to Chapter Command for his breaching Codex Astartes.
Uriel was spared of execution because of his good record as a Captain, but he was given the Death Oath by Calgar. To be exiled from the chapter to go on a penance crusade that penance crusade went into the Eye of terror. I would not be surprised if Titus was reported by one of his marines he would have been given Death Oath instead of Execution.
@@vhaelen326not to mention. Chaplains must refrain from removing their helmets according to the Codex Astartes.
Massive hypocrite.
I liked how Leandros turned out. He may be an insufferable pedant, but those two service studs on his brow prove he's not incompetent. Personally, I think Leandros is a good character, if not a good person.
yes but fuck leandros
Leandros is NOT the bad guy, he just has more faith than most.
which is kinda pathetic. His Primarch would surely look down on him for his zealotry.
I legitimately shouted “How the fuck are you still alive?! How are you a Chaplin of all things?!” Seriously the man hates Titus for his mere existence like the Cadians hate Abbadon at this point
That sister cosplay is fire. Well done. Love the scar.
Leandros should've gotten sent back to the Tenth company to be retrained on what it means to be a space marine, not promoted.
chaplaincy is not always considered a promotion just like a black shield in the deathwatch, giving leandros' actions of going directly against the codex (going to an inquisitor over the chapter chaplain) it wouldn't surprise me if this was penance for leandros as his basically relegated to priest/military police duties no glorious death and honour like his battle brothers
@@babayagagaming123why are there so many players that are saying that chaplains aren’t a front line position? Chaplains are routinely in combat motivating their brothers to greatness.
Yes, but unlike Titus and the other ultramarines hes at the back giving speech inspirations.@@kosherbeefcake
@@kosherbeefcake no, they are not "routinely in combat" a chaplain being in combat in itself rare, as most of their time is in sermons focusing their battle brothers capabilities, they teach aspirants about chapter culture, they maintain chapter relics, guide the moral principles of the chapter, Chaplains in the most layman terms possible are the HR(human resources) Department/Spiritual leaders of space marine chapters,
how often you see a HR person get off their desk ? rarely if ever, but when they do someone is usually getting the sack, same with a chaplain, how often do they go into battle ? rarely but when they do its fucking worthy of a story or a piece of art, perfect example being leandros in space marine 2 he did sweet fuck all except looking cool until the last cutscene where his finally joining a mission (where we dont even know if his there to actually partake in said mission or again sit around and sound/look cool)
TL:DR chaplains are the HR managers/Spiriual Leaders/ A position of symbolism FIRST AND FOREMOST and a battle brother second
EDIT : im talking about generic chaplaincy over the broader settings, yes you have instances like blood angel chaplains who specifically lead the death company etc etc but again we're talking the norm not the 1%
He will never go past chaplaincy. It's a dead end job. He deserves worse for his betrayal
Adorable. I love your reaction. I was the same way. F you leoandros! Lol, courage and honor, sister. You do, calgar proud!
I think Leandros becoming Chaplin was a punishment done by clagar so he may never misdirect the guidance of the codex again
There's a certain level of irony that comes with Leandros going over his Chaplain's head to the Inquisition. Then becoming a Chaplain himself.
Leandro’s is like the kid who reminds the teacher they forgot to hand out homework but instead of telling the teacher they tell the gd Governor.
Best part was after the prologue, she wondered if leandros would be in the game.
Literally the very next scene showed the chaplain.... lol
I watched chat like a hawk, praying nobody would spoil it lol
The unfortunate thing for me is that, while i did my best to avoid any spoilers until i played the game, ONE video title i saw that was just simply "Chaplain reveals his identity", and i IMMEDIATELY thought it was going to be big bitch boi Leandros.
I was really chocked, as I also thought this guy was badass and awesome looking, but ones he removed that helmet, it all disapeared XD
but being a chaplain really suits Leandros to be honest dispite being chocked.
This was exactly my reaction. Right down to figuring it out just a fraction of a second before he spoke.
These two games together tell one of the best action stories I’ve played in years.
This whole game is calling out for a DLC as quick as possible.
I would love to have a full expansion
I would love to have a full expansion
I waited a whole week for this moment haha
How to go from a character I mildly tolerated to a character. I absolutely despise in 10 seconds: (Leandros in a nutshell)
3rd game leandros falls into chaos
Or maybe sees another Ultramarine whom he led down the path of blind adherence to the Codex fall to Chaos specifically because he refused to deviate from the letter of the book and he has a Come to Jesus moment.
If it makes you feel any better, I imagine that his chaplain training was especially stringent
The chapter master legit said few mins ago that Titus is incorruptible and Leandros just being i don't give a shit lmfao
No cause I also started the game and was like “fuck yeah this guy has our back. He’s being so kind. He rules.” Then that scene happens and I was fucking gut punched.
"I will show you no mercy! I'll call everyone I know to fight you while I watch from afar!"
Sold the emperor’s most stalwart soldier to a chaos-corrupted inquisitor, going against the rule of his own chapter. This assh0le has to be a chaos puppet I swear to god… the only way this ends is that you get to kill his demon form as SM IIIs final boss.
Let's turn Leandros into a Servitor, we're 100 years late already (ò.ó)
"Nor would i grant you that cahnve leandros" *Leans in* "Your hate reeks of chaos"
Titus did a tour with Deathwing.
Thee. "I'm your Huckleberry", Doc Holiday no fux , rules are for losers , winning Titus!
His dead, scene it all, turned black eyes, swung full circle blazing.
Are you sure he is Ultramarine? His level of pettiness makes me think he got Iron Warrior Geneseed.
Dude, Leandros would have a conniption if he met Uriel Ventris and learned about his adventures on Medrangard
It says a lot that Leandros got pissed when he hears that Gadriel pointed his pistol at Titus, lots of repressed thoughts implicated with that.
If I were Titus in that moment, I’d grab Leandros by his armor and say “you violated the Codex Astartes. A Chaplain must never remove his helmet before a non-Chaplain. I must bring you to the Captain for questioning and inquiry”.
Then again, Titus is a better man than I.
The best part is, he became the chaplain BECAUSE calgar fucking hate him for the snitch on Titus. He decided that if he is left alone to grow up, he can become very important captain, and Throne protect, even a chaptermaster. So, where can he promote a very codex-caring space marine and be sure he wont fuck up again, as someone important? A CHAPLAIN
Enjoy your dead end no glory getting job leandros we all hate you
kind regards calgar 😂
That's not how things work. He would most likely have stayed a squad member, and at best a sergeant of a squad. People seem not to understand that Marines don't get promoted on service time, they get promoted on capability. The vast majority of Space Marines never go beyond being a simple battle brother..
Titus and Leandros go back to Dawn of War days.
The caption was like when you take a picture with your chaplain be like : "I'm with stupid."🤣
Best thing about this reveal? To become a chaplain, someone puts you there and you have to shut up and not talk for years on end before completing your studies. That which came after he violated the rules of talking with the inquisition before the chapter master likely with known intent. Especially since certain Chaplains aren’t suppose to be on the battlefield.
Meaning after Leandros snitched, his chapter master sent him to become chaplain to shut up for those hundred plus years and took away a chance at him fighting chaos like he always wanted to perform religious duties as a reward for his accusations 💀
It’s a theory, but the one that makes the most sense lore wise with Warhammer rankings and rules. But honestly a funny once since in return for telling Leandros lost everything that deemed him a fighter unless they allow him back on the field
"You can't betray the codex by not reporting your doubts of betrayal on a Brother to the chaplain if you become a chaplain"
Battle brothers and sister prove how powerful fandom can be ! xD
Look at the stinkface he is giving Titus. You know that the tears he cries must form the purest, must delicious table salt!
In a way, Leandros is helping Titus get back the renown lost. I think it’s Leandros way of redeeming his rookie mistake from SM1.
Leandros isn't uglier. He just has more wrinkles, a few scars. And he has a heavy frown.
Leandros is screaming “zealot turned traitor” energy. I would bet good money that he will fall to Chaos in SM3
Day by day i see leandros becoming like ASMODAI of the DARK ANGELS 😂
He'll either fall to Chaos or have the mother of all redemption arks.
Khorne will be watching leandros fall with interest
What’s funny is now if Leandro’s went on a mission with Titus he’d fucking die 😂
Titus should have said "OK....novice.." but he's above that
Everyone hates Leandros. Even the Dark Eldar aren’t as hateful as he is.
I really hope that leandross in the next game, gets put on the black shield, with death watch
While Leandros over stepped by contacting the inquisition instead of reporting to the chaplain he was right in reporting Titus. It is every brothers duty to be vigilant of taint within their brothers. Leandros was doing as he was trained to do. As Titus himself said, leandros lived by the codex. Even Titus never denied that what leandros did was wrong.
I believe the only issue in what leandros did was he overstepped by contacting the inquisition instead of going to his chapter chaplain.
This person runs Warhammer, Elden Ring, Fallout and more, sign me up!
I honestly think it would be cool, if there was a redemption arc for Leandros.
Titus said it himself in the game. He didn't address Leandros' concerns and Leandros' fear wasn't unfounded given what we know about 40k and Chaos in particular.
And he must have some qualities, otherwise he would've never have been made a fucking Chaplain, which is a very important role in most Space Marine Chapters.
Also Captain Achuran seems to be more hostile throughout the game towards Tits than the Chaplain. Which is also why in the Void they chose Achuran to tell Titus that Lord Calgar let him rot in the Death Watch for over 100 years, not the Chaplain. And there wasn't even a vision of Leandros ever, which probably means that Titus understands that he himself failed, when he didn't address Leandros' concerns about corruption in the first game. After all he outright says it to Gadriel when he forgives him for turning on him.
Leandros isn't a snitch, just very cautious when it comes to chaos corruption. The Codex Astartes, so Guilliman himself, is probably to blame for his actions. These are Ultramarines after all, not any of the other chapters that go against the Codex regularly like the Black Templars or Space Wolves.
If you had 5 bullets and you're in a room with the 4 chaos gods, Erebus, and Leandros, who would you shoot?
Sister clam down! 😂
The Rat himself 🐀
I want to see Leandros encounter the same levels of chaos Titus had and succeed in resisting it.
I want him to never have a resolution with Titus, either because he's dead or somewhere else. I want him to be crushed with that guilt and the knowledge that of all the brothers he condemned it was Titus.
Preferably we see him getting more depressed and more suicidal through other POVs of other protagonists in other 40k games God Emperor willing. Have him be like a certain character in AoT, he'll want death and charge into but he'll never have it lmao
well he did in the first game, as did sidonus. and they couldn't resist it. Thats his whole point. There IS something unnatural about Titus. this is not a simple matter of "he had stronger willpower" and its not like he is a blank or something. He IS susceptible to warp magics, but also somehow can better resist them.
The fact that Lord Calgar didnt turn Leanne Dros into a fucking servitor reflects poorly on Marneus himself
Im predicting the third game would try to redeem Leandros. But all we want is his head on a pike.
At least he knows where they stand.
Leandros is the equivalent to Griffith when it comes to how hated they are
Bro, I got that Lex Luther syndrome. Hatein on Titus because he can accept someone is just that good.
In a way Calgar had his hands tied with Leandros. If he had refused to raise him to his rank it would be seen as a poor example to the rest of the ultramarines. They will not come forward with their own suspicions or speak out against corruption when necessary. Not all are as Titus is. Hes the lucky one. Chaos corrupts many.
That bromance went well, huh? :D
Leandros must meet Kharn.
Leandros the f***ing Boy Scout
Oh yeah, he will join Chaos out of spite. but the question is which chaos God would give him a better offer to kill Titus
We all know Robo hates chaplains!
I dont have leandros, he is just a bit extreme and that blinds him to see that titus is a devoted feller
Never known Marines that young to make it as a Chaplain already. Titus should be a Chaplain by all standards.
Wait I just realized a technical error I think 🤔 leandros has two gold studs (each is 100 years) and Titus has four silver (each equaling 50 years) does that mean Leandros has been in service as long as Titus???? He also didn't have any studs in the first game. If the game conically starts 100 years after the first he should at most have only one gold stud
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I been feeling the same way. So many pitfalls and things went wrong in my past. Things aren’t enjoyable, things feel wrong no matter what I do, and everyone I encounter is mostly negative. What’s going on??
Does Leandros knows about Silent Sisters? Custodes? All of them have high warp resistance. Why not condemn them?
I wouldn’t hate leandros so bad for being against Titus bending the code if he wasn’t a hypocrite and breaking the code reporting Titus to the inquisition
Leandros - son of Erebus
Ti8ick is so adorable
leandros got chonky seanse first game
Can we all aggree that leandros is part of the alpha legion
The alpha legion believes in unison this one is not ours
He's a word bearer.
He gained weight lmao
Did you see him at the last Battle, or any battle?
He was sitting on his ass in the battle barge thinking up new ways to harass Titus
Leandros don't deserve that drip fit
Excited and angry lol
Lyandros, Erebus...same 💩.
- Kharn probably.
He would be a chaplain.
Find you a girl who hates leandros and erebus!! 😂😂
How the hell did Leandros make Chaplin? What a clown.
They are building him up to be a villain it’s going to happen
Literal Gungrave style top 10 anime betrayals :DD Sergeant Piss-pants here is afraid/jealous of Titus' accomplishments and gets him put in witch tryals.. Titus is sent to the shitter for 100 years and he literally crawls back from the dead, only to be bossed around by now chaplain Piss-pants who's been living the life all this time.. :D
Been wondering, have you played the first game
If you havent, do it, connect the dots!
I did play the first one, the playthrough is on my YT channel!
@@ti8ick oh cool!
Need to dig deep into the channel then :3