Case 930 Get New Voltage Regulator and How to Polarize It.
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Well the Case 930 after getting the duals on its time to replace the voltage regulator because its bad. Who ever monkied with the wires on the starter switch they managed to burn the points in the regulator from sticking, I figure it was back feeding the system threw the regulator so it needs changed. The new one is for positive or negative or negative ground so it has to be Polarized witch is pretty easy to do, Take a wire hold it to the battery terminal on the regulator and touch the generator terminal and spark it and its Polarized and good to go. Now Big Bertha is really ready to go ! I hope you enjoyed watching and maybe learned something from it. Bandit
Good informative video Bandit. You taught me something I did not know about polarizing a voltage regulator. Thanks for sharing.
Chuck this is some of the stuff I learned years ago when I was young, I cant explain why it has to be done only it needs to be done in order for a voltage regulator to work right. This is the kind of thing if you asked a lot of mechanics about they would have no idea what you talking about ! LOL It maybe old school but there are still some who know how to do things like this. Bandit
Victory! Gotta love it when it works out! These days, you never know if the "new" part will work or not, then you spend time thinking it was your own fault, testing, redoing stuff, then figure out your "new" part is junk from the box! But glad to hear it's ready for action! Hope it dries up, but unfortunately our forecast has rain every 3-4 days (and I just cut hay lol). Thanks for the video!
The bad thing is not knowing if the new part is any good or not when you get it ! Wasn't long ago I went threw 3 coils before I got a good one and this voltage regulator has no warrenty on it because its electrical , As long as it remains in the original packaging it has a warrenty but the min you open it its gone ! But its on and it works so she is ready to go and if it dries up she will be in the field ! There are a lot of guys ready to make hay but when it rain every other day there is no chance of that happening anytime soon. It rained Wednesday night, Thursday was clear Friday but Friday night it started raining again and its been raining ever sense and for the next 5 days ! I have no idea when I might get back into the field at this point , But maybe July ! Bandit
Thanks for the education. I never knew this needed to be done. I always just changed the regulator, then assumed that the generator was bad. Thankyou you saved me future money.
This is the kind of stuff that can drive you nuts, When you buy a new regulator there is no information with them on what to do. I guess they figure you already know how to do it ! LOL But as you see its easy to do , Just put a wire on the battery terminal and touch it to the generator terminal and spark it and it sets the path the right way. It might be old school but it still works like a charm ! Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 to many of these "old school" ways are lost. What maybe was common sense back in the day has been lost to new technology. I believe that a man should never stop learning and should also be man enough to admit when he just dosen't know. After all we all had to learn sometime and noone knows everything. Thanks again for all you do for us.
@@billfischer6464 I agree ! It might be old school but it worked for many years without many problems. I think Commend Sense is in short supply these days and is something the younger generations are lacking in. Too many people are glued to the I phones and don't pay attention to whats going on around them, I seen this 100's of times ware someone is looking at there phone's and walk right into a phone pole ! Ironic right ? LOL I can say I try to learn something everyday, Why just this morning I learned bacon grease will work to quiet a bearing in the AC fan motor ! All I had at the time but it worked so a new motor is on order ! LOL I went to change the injector pump on the Long and figured out real quick I was in over my head and took it down to have it changed. The guy kind of got on me saying I could have done it till he got done, When he said you would have never gotten it right ! He had a lot of trouble changing it and he does this all the time ! So a man has got to know his limitations and know when to get help before he screws something up good ! Bandit
Nice tutorial on the regulator installation. Good information as always. Stay safe.
I thought about this and looked around and didn't see anything on how to do this so I figured I got to change it so make a video of doing it. Right or wrong this was the way I was taught to do this job and it always worked in the past. Just passing along information that's getting hard to find now and its something that needs to be done to make them work right. Bandit
Thanks for the lesson, Bandit. I hope you can get in the field soon. I'm sure this weather is driving you crazy. HEre in western PA, I finally got my last 7 acres of corn planted in 2 fields that were so wet, I didn't harvest last year's corn till May 9. What a cluster "you know what". At least Big Bertha will be ready when the weather breaks. Good luck brother!
I looked around and didn't see a video on this so I figured I got to change this so why not make a video of doing it, Someone might need to know how to do it. This past Wednesday I had 18 acres ready to plant and didn't plant it because of the forecast, 6 out of the next 7 days had rain in the forecast . It was down in the 40's 2 nights and rained too and last night we got 2 1/2" of rain with lost more on the way ! Everyday this week coming its going to rain so I'm glad I didn't plant anything cause it would have been for nothing and I would have had to replant it if it dried back up. Lots of guys around here were going 24 hours a day trying to get crops in the ground but I don't think it was a good idea, I could be wrong but I didn't like the odds so I didn't plant. Lots of ground around here hasn't been touched yet and may not be planted at all and being the 16th of June and 7 more days of rain coming it looks like July before it dries up and most guys around here wont plant that late, Maybe 100 acres of double crop beans cause most of the time 15 to 25 bu an acre is all they will make and its not worth doing. I still have faith I'll plant beans but I'm worried and looking at a plan B ! LOL Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 So what's plan B? Hmmm...maybe good material for a video. Hang in there Bandit! Some people say that the word "Farmer" is just another word for "Gambler". It always is a gamble with weather, prices, trade wars, etc. A lot of stuff out of our control. But things will work out. Like I told Soybean Farmer the other day, farming is an exercise in creative problem solving.
@@pagrainfarmer Still working on Plan B ! LOL I don't know what I'm going to do yet but I'm working on plan B for this reason. Weather is the one thing a farmer has no control of and he's got to play by mother natures rules, All we as farmers can really do is learn and to trust our judgement calls and leave the rest up to the good lord cause we can only do so much to make something grow. There is a lot to be said for having a little faith, But on the flip side you got to know when not to push your luck too ! LOL Being a farmer is not easy , Never has been and never will be so all we can do is our best trust our gut and think things out and not make snap judgements that might come back to haunt us . If you can do that then you might grow old farming and enjoy yourself ! Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 Well I am 64 and have farmed all my life so far. I did have a full off the farm career, but still farmed too. Never stopped. Basically had 2 full time jobs. I have been retired for 2 years now, which means that farming IS my full time job now. Someone asked me the other day when I'm gonna quit and I told him never. Will do it as long as the good Lord lets me. As you said, it ain't easy - but we all have it in our blood and we love it.
@@pagrainfarmerI'm in my mid 50's and have farmed long before I went to work after getting out of school, Really all my life. I've got all the equipment paid for and the farm too and I want to keep it that way too ! So no new equipment and keeping costs down as much as possible so that even in a bad year I can still make a buck or two ! LOL At least that's what it feels like ! My boys have no interest in the farm so now I do it because I love to farm and hope the good lord lets me continue doing it as long as I can. Nothing better to me than the smell of fresh turned dirt and diesel smoke or the smell of a cut field of clover hay in the morning with a dew on ! Its the simple things in life that make it worth while, Not the rat race or trying to keep up with the Jones having all the new stuff on the farm. I'm happy with a 50 year old tractor and a 25 year old truck to get the work done and get me ware I need to go. Life is more enjoyable when you figure things out and make it easer to do things you want to do. Bandit
I really enjoy your videos thank you ever so much
Your very Welcome, I'm glad you enjoy watching and Thanks for commenting. Bandit
Well there is something that needs done to the Case after getting it running and straitening out the electrical crap out it needs a new voltage regulator put on it and get it polarized. Its not a bad job but its got to be done , I had to ask dad if I was right or not and I was and to Polarize it is simple, Spark it ! Easy to do, Take a wire from the Battery Terminal on the regulator and touch the other end to the Generator terminal on the voltage regulator and make a spark ! Simple as that and it Polarized ! When it's something like this ware you don't do it very often its better to ask someone before you screw up, So I asked dad and as it turns out I was right to start with. Well its a shorter one but I hope you enjoyed watching and maybe learned something too. Bandit
Regulators usually come with instruction on how to polarize the system. I guess that's why you don't throw the instructions away if they have them.
@@Ron52G A&I doesn't have instructions with there new regulators ! So before I left with it I asked and they had to look it up and they said your right , Its got to be polarized ! Good thing I asked and could remember how to do it but I still had to ask dad if I was right in how to do it. Bandit
Can't wait to see her working
Me too ! Its been a long time sense she worked and its about time she did ! Bandit
Nice Bandit, I learn from it, I yet to put a regulator on my old 1949 Farmall Super A
Well I hope this helps you when you got to do it, This is something that I have found hard to find out about sense putting this up. This used to be a commend thing to learn years ago but now it seams to being lost to time. But this is up and it will be here for a long time . Bandit
I'm trying to watch the Texas Ranger game in Cincinnati. I like baseball. Turn on the TV and especially the boring games, sleep time like a baby. Looks like a rain delay here at 12:50 P.M Central Time Zone. Happy Father's Day! My daughter lives at Fort Bragg with her Major husband. He got back from Africa. Chinese (Army) up the butt over there digging out the minerals. I've got 3 rug rats grand kids. Nice video. I put ya up on n the big screen. Eaglegards...
That was a boring game , I watched a little and got really bored so I flipped threw the channels and found Dead Pool and watched it ! LOL I have 9 grand kids from 4 to 14 years old so when you see them its an event and never a dull moment ! LOL I hope you had a Happy Fathers Day I know we did, The family went to out back stake house and it was good ! Better watch putting me on the big screen, I might brake it ! LOL Bandit
I shouldn't call this a "lost art" but, this is something that's not being passed on to future generations. Mainly due to everything now days has and alternator installed instead of the good old reliable generators. We used grease on all the terminals, that spray stuff doesn't really work as well in preventing any corrosion. Did you by chance fix your power steering leak on "Big Bertha"? Last video I watched you stated it was leaking, you just didn't know where. If I may suggest, you might want to look into checking in some wider front tires. Helps with "flotation" and would make her look a bit more "bad ass". Great video and very good information for those that don't know about generators/regulators. Keep the video's coming. Cheers :)
I looked around and didn't see a video on this and being I had to change it I figured I might as well make one on it. It is a bit of a lost art because most people know nothing about it now and its for sure the parts changers now wouldn't have a clue how to do this. A real mechanic is hard to come by now, Most of them are just part changers now and cant diagnose anything, They just do as there told to. Big Bertha power steering pump is leaking some place but I haven't figured out ware yet but it works just leaks a little so its on the list of things to do. Right now I'm trying to figure out the hydraulics and why one side has pressure but the outer side doesn't ! I think I know what the deal is and need to go to the dealer to see if I can get parts for it and fix it while its raining again. She looks pretty good with the duals on , Kind of makes her look even more bossy ! She is a handful in the field for sure ! Video to come ! Bandit
I have a cab off a 930 sitting in the old corncrib, If interested let me know. I live in Pennsylvania.
Hey thanks for sharing!
No problem Cousin, This is something some of us have done many times but now its not done much anymore and its being lost to time. Shoot I had to ask dad if how I was going to do this was right or not and it turns out I was right in my thinking on how to do it. I haven't done this in 10 years so I was a we bit rusty ! LOL But its on and it works so job well done in my book ! Cousin Bandit
I was going to put a new voltage regulator on our 4020 until I realized one of the two, 3 month old 12 volt batteries had a dead cell in it. They won't turn over with one bad battery, unless you jump the bad battery. 12vots on one side and 10 volts on the other side is a no go.
I had a couple of new batteries years ago took them home put them on a charger and they would not hold a charge for nothing ! Took them back and the guy said whats wrong with them ? Wont hold a charge , Bull Crap ! There new ! Long story short his boy took the acid out to put in his and filled them with water ! Guy was not happy ! LOL But I got 2 brand new batteries that were good ! LOL I'll bet Jr got an ear full when he got home ! LOL Bandit
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I unhooked both 12 volt batteries and put a charger on both of then. I took the caps off. One of the cells was bubbling. A bad cell will do that.
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They are predicting 5 days of no rain starting Tuesday. It will take most of that to get dry enough to work again. But since they can barely predict what it will do tomorrow, I don't put much faith in a 7 day forecast. Since a large portion of the country is wet , it is easier for it to stay that way.
@@Ron52GBad thing about new batteries , They might be new but that don't mean there all good. Kind of like getting a new coil , You might have to get 2 or 3 before you get a good one. There used to be a big difference in batteries , There were good one and cheap ones now there all about alike. Auto parts places know most people keep a car or truck 3 or 4 years and trade it off so they push there 48 to 60 month batteries knowing they wont have to worry about replacing them so they make more money ! LOL I really hate fooling around with batteries, I guess I've had to many blow up on me over the years. But like dad says about me I'm funny about tires, batteries and oil ! LOL Bandit
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Thry usually test the batteries before they hand them over where we buy them. Still have a chance of a bad one I guess.
In actuality, you're not polarizing the voltage regulator, but instead the generator. At least if I remember correctly. Pretty much did this whenever working on the electrical system.
This is the kind of stuff we did years ago but now its rare to have to do this, Last time I did this was about 10 years ago and had to ask dad to make sure I was right in my thinking. Hard to remember all this stuff the older I get so ask the Master he knows for sure, Sometimes you just got to ask dear old dad if your right or not and it turned out I was all along . I really don't know how it works or does what it does all I know is that's how dad taught me to do this back when I was in school (did this for an FFA project) LOL I got an A for it ! To bad I couldn't do that in English class ! LOL Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 Ahh.... FFA, one of my favorite classes, along with shop and band!
But yeah, it has something to do with setting the "poles" inside the generator. Suppose that explains why you cross the Battery with the one going to the Genny. But like you, we did it as we remember. Like Granny telling you crabapples will make you puke, mom saying don't swallow chewing gum as it'll clog yer stomach, and that ya can't eat hedge apples (Osage Oranges) as they're poisonous. Oh yeah, and that hair will grow on the palm of yer hand if....
@@kenarnold9132 I don't know or even could explain why you got to do this all I know its something that has to be done to make it work right. But if you do it right it will work for a long time without problems, Of course IF its a good regulator to start with ! LOL I figured out real quick when I was young that mom and dad and my grand parents knew way more than I did so I listened to what they said. I remember my grand mother telling my aunt one time if your going to take the time to cook something at least make it taste good ! There is a lot of truth to that one ! That last one would explain why a guy I used to know had such hairy hands ! LOL Bandit
Yes, the iron core coils in the generator need to be polarized to re-magnetize them.
Awesome! Thanks!
Well, that's something I have never done. Isn't it fun to think about how smart relatively simple items are? Being able to "program" a voltage regulator by shorting out two terminals...... cool science for ya. Hope things get a bit drier for you. I know I was feelimg antsy and not being done 20th of May.
I've changed quit a few over the years but I haven't done one in 10 years or so, This one is able to be for negative or positive ground so it was a bit different than most I've seen but they all have to get Polarized to work and that's simple enough to do. It might be old school but it sure works good for me ! LOL A lot of guys around here would be happy if they get done by July 4 ! If I get my beans planted by then I'll be really happy ! Bandit
i remember doing this the same method that you used is how i was taught
Dad had a gas station when I was a kid and I learned it from him when he was working on car and trucks. In FFA or Vo-Ag class I did this for a project in class and got an A on it, My teacher was surprised I knew how to do it cause he didn't ! LOL Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 omg thats funny i took votech and ag to plus my grandfather taught me all the old stuff still am great at working on older tractors would love to do it more
@@briandavidstine4312 I can work on the older stuff no problem but this new crap with all its electronics forget it ! I hate computers I really do but I got one to do this and kind of know how to use it to get what I want done, But there still a pain in the butt ! In my class I'm the only one still farming , All the rest went broke or just gave up but I still keep on going just like I always have and enjoying every min of it ! It aint work if you love doing it ! Bandit
You said , touch a wire from the battery terminal to the generator terminal to polarize the regulator , so is the generator terminal the field terminal or the armature terminal ?
You had to ask this question, If I remember right the way this was marked it was Bat Gen and Field B G F if I remember right. So run from Bat to Gen to polarize it and just touch it to the Gen terminal will do it. This video is a few years old so I'm going by memory here. It seams like they have changed how things were labeled from the old one to the new one and I had to ask dad to make sure before I did this. Bandit
Great video as always, my question is why not just put in a newer style alternator with regulator rather then the original style generators?
If the rest of the alternator is good, replacing just the regulator is cheaper. I found a voltage regulator like the one Bandit used for 27ish bucks. An complete new style alternator runs about 50 for a cheap one. I found an alternator that is close to what is on the 930 right now and it was almost 600 bucks, and I dont know if it came with a regulator. Just to be clear, I would assume that the prices I just mentioned are canadian prices since I simply found examples off Google.
THAT GENERATOR HAS AN OILING PORT ON EACH END TOO, THEO WAS ON YOUR SIDE THIS TIME!
Sadly its been rebuilt and those oil ports have a steel plug drove in them now so you cant oil it anymore . But the generator and regulator are working great now so that's a plus ! I like it when things work ! Bandit
I had to ask too but i was not lucky to have dad there to figure it out but my local alternator guy knew it well lol so its what i call a lost art that we dont do any more in thei high tech world
I'll bet its been 10 years ago I last put a new voltage regulator on and I knew how to do it but I just had to ask dad to be sure. When its something you haven't done in a long time and you doubt yourself its better to ask to make sure than screw it up ! With the newer equipment you don't have to do this anymore and like you said its a lost art for sure. I just hope this one lasts, Last one I but on I had to replace it 3 times before I got a good one ! Parts quality has gone down hill on older electrical parts so I really hope its a good one ! Bandit
Good job sod buster
Thank You Sam, I'm keeping the old school stuff alive and passing it on. Bandit
Bandit,Nice job well explained. Is big Bertha a positive or negative ground?
As far as I know when I got it it was negative ground , I don't know what it was when it was new. I remember about all the older AC stuff was positive ground, That was always a pain in the butt back then, 6 volt 8 volt 12 volt positive or negative ground it always kept you on your toes when working on tractors combines and cars and trucks. OH the good old days ! LOL I can honestly say I like aultnaders there so much better but its hard to put them on the old stuff like the Case, It can be done but its a pain in the butt ! Bandit
Bandit farmer, "pain" maybe. "But" only once. Watered down again, Northcoast of the Buckeye, Ottawa co. Very, very little planted. Nothing around me for 5 mi. I know of. A couple sprayed.
@@fredrickkohlman9587 I converted a few from a gen to an ault , Sometimes its easy but sometimes its a pain in the butt to do ! LOL Sense Wednesday night till tonight (Sunday) we've got a bout 3 1/2 inches and they are calling for rain everyday for the next week and get another 4 to 6 inches ! So if we're real lucky we might get back in the field about the end of the month ! I'll bet there is going to be a lot of ground that's not going to be planted around here this year and a bunch or replanting being done on corn and beans planted earlier this week. I hope not but I'll bet they will. Bandit
Bandit farmer, yea, it's saturated again up here. drove around looking things over, lots of water. Fields that were planted don't look good. There will be many acres PP insurance clams I'm a thinking, corn and even beans. You do a fine job on these videos and I sure enjoy them. Just talked to my friend in Bethel, Ohio. He said about 3 inch dumped from guage, not sure the time span. Your not far from Bethel are you? You be safe and good luck, it'll all work out. Happy Father's Day to you and dad. I feel like I know you and other guys I watch. So be safe.
@@fredrickkohlman9587 I think there is going to be a lot of PP claims the insurance company will have to deal with this year for sure. I don't like to make claims but that's why I got the crop insurance to start with, Its better than getting nothing I guess but its sure not the same as growing a crop. Bethel is about 20 min south of me so its not to far, I'm in the northeastern corner of Clermont county and Bethel is south central part of the county. I think Batavia is about 1/2 way from my house to Bethel. But the farm is just north of me in the southeast corner of Warren county just west of Blanchester Ohio. The Ohio river valley has a lot to do with the weather around here , It all depends on how the wind blows up the valley and hits the bend in the river at Cincinnati Ohio. Right now the heaviest rains are just south of us but were still getting some good rains. I hope you had a Happy Fathers day and enjoyed the day today. Bandit
are those axles holding up with duals ?
Yup ! With a tractor as heavy as this Case is and with a short wheel base 16.9x34" dules are in order to go with the 18.4x34 drive tires. If you put equal sized tires on as duals you'll never get it to turn on the ends of the field no matter how good the brakes are. The duals are there just for floatation in the field and even with the shorter duals you still have to ride the brakes to turn it on the ends to get her to turn dew to the short wheel base. Bandit
Stupid question why not converted to an alternator? Little bit more modern little bit easier to service.
Well right now everything is working right so why change it over ? I don't know what I'll do with the Case yet, I need a 85 to 100 hp tractor with 3 pt and that's the one thing the Case doesn't have on it I need. Bandit
I was taught to go from gen to battery I think you did it backwards lol
Well its how dad taught me and I looked it up after I didi this and that's what it said too, Battery to generator and spark it. I sure hope its a good one, The last time I changed one it took 3 to get a good one. The quality is not as good as it used to be on these parts and I love the fact they don't warrenty them now ! You buy it, Its yours ! Good or bad , Aint like it used to be that's for sure . Bandit
Great video Bandit! One question. I put a new regulator on my wife's Farmall cub. The old one was original and toast. That much I know for sure. I am running it 12v (originally 6v) still positive ground. Still 6v generator. From my research and from talking with an alternator shop they said it will still charge (the 12v battery) just at a slower rate. I would think it would at least still supply enough juice to keep it running with the battery disconnected..... But it doesn't. My Question Is... If I did not polarize the regulator when I first put it on can I still do this to attempt to get it to charge? I'm less worried about it charging the 12v battery. It crank starts really easy. Just don't like it drawing the battery down until the ignition quits. Thanks in advance buddy!
First question is it a 12 volt regulator and is it for a positive ground ? Some are one way or the other and some can be for both ways. You could try to spark it and see what happens but I don't know honestly what will happen . I was always taught to have the battery unhooked when you put the new regulator on and hook the battery back up with the key off and then spark it to polarize it, I don't know if it will work now its been run some. But you can try it and see what happens but it may be set now I just don't know. Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 it's a 12v regulator the can be either positive or negative ground. I will try to spark it and see if I can make it charge. Don't really want to spend the money to have the generator gone through. It's just are little home chore tractor. ALTHOUGH, it did rake about 30 acres of hay and cut about 15 last year!!! We worked the poor little girl to death lol.
Do you have a fan email so I can send you some pictures of the case c.k. that I got? I may need a little help with and and have some questions about it that you might be able to answer
banditfarmer@aol.com I'll do my best to answer your questions. Bandit
I really did learn something, Very well appreciated. I never knew about polarizing it. You did a great job. I hope you get in the fields soon. Check out my channel.
Bandit you ever work on a case DC
I owned one for a week but never worked on one. Bought one and a friend came over when I took it off the trailer and he had to have it, He made an offer I couldn't refuse and I loaded it back up and took it to his house and as far as I know he still has it, God that was 30 years ago, Man I think I'm getting old ! LOL Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 okay I got one and have trouble with it was hoping for advice
Love a wide bottom girl ready to rock-n-roll LOL
She is ready to roll or should I say rock-n-roll ! LOL To me she is pleasingly plump and got the right curves to her ! Bandit
Are the tractors going to get to work this year or just get a shower lol r any crops in around u and will the rain stop lol
There was about 4 days everyone was trying to get crops planted, The BTO's were planting 24 hours a day trying to get as much planted as posiable before this week of rain moved in. A lot of ground that was wet got planted and I wish them luck cause it never worked for me ! I got some ground worked up but didn't plant it because of the forecast a week of rain every single day and 5 inches or more on the way I figured its not the time to plant and I'm glad I didn't. I think there is going to be a lot ground that's not going to get planted this year, 25% of the ground is planted around here (maybe ?) but its sure been a wet spring just like last year was. Were over 9 inches above average on rain this year already so were at about 31 inches of rain so far and that's a lot ! Last year we got 63 inches so were half way there now. I hope it straitens out and I can get back in the field and get everything planted, I still got faith but I'm starting to worry ! Bandit
@@banditfarmer1900 yup same thing here as soon as it looks like it's going to dry up then it pours again it's getting crazy
@@chevymetrodriver I think we've got 2 to 2 1/2" in the last 24 hours ! I had some ground worked up I could have planted but I didn't because of the forecast, No sense putting seed in the ground to have it rot from being in the water too long ! I hope I made the right choice but from what I see we have rain everyday for the next 7 days maybe even more and beans just put in the ground will rot being that wet . Time will tell for sure but I don't have to worry for now cause the seed is still in the bag ! Bandit