can you test in the game noita... this game require a loot of the cpu, they say that more cores is better, even in a ryzen with 16 cores 32 threads from the 5000 generation still lag in this game sometimes
I'm so glad now that the 7950x3d was completely sold out at Microcenter. So I "settled" for the 7800x3d. I do like 80% gaming on my PC and the rest watching RUclips and browsing. It's the perfect CPU for me.
The 7950X3D is perfect for me, I didn't want to compromise on Editing and Rendering, but I also wanted a blazing fast gaming CPU, so it fit the bill nicely.
Yeah that's why i don't understand why people are complaining that it's more expensive but not faster in games compared to the 7800X3D. Why would anyone build 2 separate PCs for gaming and productivity when you only need to sacrifice 2-5% performance in single or multi-core for a single package. It's literally the best CPU in the market if you do everything with it. I used to have a 5800X3D which i replaced for the 7950X3D since i can do my huge excel sheets so much faster it's not even a contest while also having one of the best gaming performances.
@@kerotomas1 For gaming focus only it is a waste of money, that is a true statement, me for example I use my rig primarily for gaming, other than just browsing or something of that nature where performance is irrelevant anyway. The 7800x3d is way cheaper and performs on par with the 7950x3d, not because it has a better architecture but because the 7950x3d has a worse architecture. Because of AMD limiting 3d-v cache to only one chiplet, you can only benefit from 3d-v cache on half the cores, and because of the latency to communicate between chiplets, is it best to simply run games on those 8 cores with 3d-v cache rather than using all 16 but having then to communicate between chiplets, effectively bringing the 7950x3d down to the same number of cores active as the 7800x3d when gaming, the difference in certain games is probably because amd downclocked hard the 7800x3d to avoid competing too hard with the 7900x3d and the 7950x3d.
this CPU can literally do it all even well after AM5 comes out cuz of the V cache and high core count. needs a bit of tinkering in process lasso but other than that it is literally the best CPU on the market right now. runs cool and sips power so its pretty much perfect for SFX builds which i have, and its a gaming and productivity monster. or maybe that's just me trying to validate my purchase.
as far as I've learned, they have the same number of 3d cores, which is why gaming performance is virtually equal, but the 7950x3d has more overall cores, which makes it better for other tasks like rendering or editing
yes i agree, i was gonna get the 7950x3D but after watching several videos the 7800x3D out performed it in almost every games. I did not regret my purchase, and after tuning it in the bios my temps went from 80 degrees to in games to 45-53 degrees max. All cores locked to 5Ghz after i tuned it too.
7800x3d is purely for gaming hence why much its more efficient and has a lower price while the 7950x3d is meant to get similar gaming performance while achieving amazing productivity so for purely gaming, 7800x3d for productivity, either 13900k or 7950x3d
I say, buy 7800X3D if you primary game as the price right now is 1/2 for 7950X3D ($300+ vs $600+). You can always choose to upgrade later when the 7950X3D price drops and you need the extra cores for heavier multitasking work rather than gaming.
@@velk_wanggoudan uh yeah! all INTEL does is throw power at it AMD is squashing INTEL currently, that power also turns into heat. But maybe you like your room at 80 degrees f at all times? lol
@@CAT_CUTIEnah you can compare it to me buying an ebike to get to school in 10 mins instead of driving and taking 20 mins. Sure I can't go on highway with my ebike, but I can get to where I need to get much quicker and easier with the ebike
@@CAT_CUTIE By "work-performance" you mean graphic/video editing/code compiling. For the vast majority of common consumers like me, "work" is office suite and web apps, for which the 7800x3d is already an overkill. For most of us gaming is about the most CPU-intensive daily task we can stack on our home CPUs, and the 7800x3d excels.
@@CAT_CUTIE for your case maybe a car makes sense, for me it doesn't. Same thing here. If you're a gamer and wont be doing a lot of other productivity things then the gaming cpu makes way more sense,
So guys let's say if you game like in flight sim, do many photoshop projects, files editings in various softwares, will the 7800X3D be enough or choose another?
Respectfully you need to redo your test. Theres a known bug when switching from 7950x3d and 7800x3d with the AMD chipset drivers. You have to do a fresh windows install after using a 7950X3D or performance will suffer on the 7800X3D
@@nikolajovanovic3647 If he used 7950x3d cpu first and didn't do fresh install before using 7800x3d the windows leaves the config files for the core parking feature from 7950x3d. It will essentially "disable" some of the cores on 7800x3d. that's why he said performance will suffer
@@nikolajovanovic3647 because of total board power speed bins and ccx cross core complex latency issues. Those who disable 1 ccx show better boost rates leading to better gaming scores. But that's not the only difference between the two chips. That's how. The code in the AMD chipset drivers optimizes the scheduler based on there being 2 ccx's. However the AMD software is not resetting and reoptimizing if you put in a 5800X3D properly. Even if you uninstall and reinstall with a clean install flag the old settings persist. You need a fresh windows install. I'm sure it's a bug AMD will remedy in the future. I can explain in better detail if you want. Every other channel that did this properly is showing bigger gains. That said, if you do mixed work and gaming the 5950X3D still might be the best solution.
i mean, buying a 16 cores CPU just for gaming is one hell of "future proofing", anyone who bought one does productivity work too (at least that's what i hope)
Did you make sure to do a fresh install when installing the 7800X3d? If you installed it after you installed the 7900 then the 7900x3d scheduling software may have affected some of the benchmarks.
Scheduling software only effects 7950x3d when Xbox game bar sends a task to the wrong core without the extra cache. 7800x3d all have extra cache so no task can be sent to the wrong core
@@kodakblack531 AMD recommends a clean install of windows due the core parking firmware. With the 7800X3D, the firmware may unintentionally park up to 2 cores. Gamers Nexus covered this in their review of the 7800X3D. So, if you've installed a 79XX3D chip with the chipset drivers and you then install a 7800X3D, you will be REQUIRED to perform a clean install of Windows as uninstalling the chipset drivers does not fix the issue.
@@RussellKasem damn that sucks. They really should’ve made a thread director on the chip or made their own software that controls it instead of depending on Xbox game bar. Also every cpu benefits from a clean install especially a custom windows iso. If I’m going to reinstall windows you might as well do a custom windows iso which helps fps on every cpu no bloatware/trackers slowing down your pc I’ve seen it boost 20fps in warzone and less stutters/lows.
I got the 7950X3D bundle at Microcenter. Paid 757 after tax for the cpu, X670E tomahawk, and DDR5-6000 RGB GSkill 2x16 RAM. I couldn't ask for a better deal. After selling my 5800X3D and B550 motherboard the upgrade cost me 500. Was well worth it and man having that paired with my 4090 what a dream. Fps is ridiculous
7950x3d is a good chip. if you play games which love 3d cache, you can just disable the 8 cores without the 3d cache. if you play games that do not benefit from 3d cache but instead on higher clockspeeds, then you can just disable the 3d cache cores. and if you want to video edit you can have both enabled.. this CPU is meant exactly for this use case..
@@kodakblack531 same ipc with more clockspeed = more fps. There is a reason why csgo, a game that doesnt benefit from 3d vcacheruns with 800fps+ on the high frequency cores , but at 600+ on the 3d ones
Seems to be more a problem of game optimization… 7800 cpu utilization almost 80% avg… 7950 utilization almost 40% avg. or cpu utilization of the 7950 is always half of the 7800. Can this be fixed with games or firmware updates later??
@@Bang4BuckPCGamer i read somewhere that is how games are optimized via Windows management. Seems that Windows goes first for the higher frequency cores, ignoring the lower frequency cores (the ones with 3D cach)… so it is optimization problem. I dont know if they already fixed it. Apparently the 7950 3D only half of the cores are 3D vcached. The rest are high frequency cores….
4k should also be included, as CPU stability is important and RT scales up with pixel count (which directly affects CPUs). When you show the conclusion of the average on the bottom, you should include the lows as well. Having them both hit the same average doesn't mean they had the same stability. Also, games that have options RT need to show RT on AND off. As a side note, this is especially true when you benchmark x3d vs non x3d.
Is it really necessary to show 4k? At that point it is 100% a GPU bottleneck and there is no way to show the difference between these two CPU's, considering what games he benchmarks. If RT you mean raytracing, it does not affect CPU whatsoever since it is taken care off GPU's RT cores entirely. This was entirely a CPU test to see which one pulls more framerate out on lower resolution, GPU is not the bottleneck on those settings, CPUs are. As for the 1% (or/and 0.1% lows), i don't consider that necessary next to similar and/or equal CPU's as 7800X3D/7950X3D, as much as you talk about stability, you'd see 0 issues. Your eyes would not be able to make that 1ms difference, does that really matter to any of us?
@@gateopssss If you actually watched, you'd see there were differences in the lows. For example, 7950 had multiple spikes in W3 and FH. Also, as someone who use to code graphics pipelines for game engines... yes RT has a serious impact on CPUs. Primarily calculating the BVH structure. I know a lot of this is not common knowledge, but you really shouldn't be going off on things you really don't know anything about.
@@Akrymir Okay now i'm starting to see the issue. Honestly i was questioning myself how tf can RT have any impact on CPU since it's entirely based off of RT cores, now i'm seeing the spikes, i haven't really seen the video. I'm interested, i'm gonna have to do some research around, thank you for pointing it out. My bad, i guess all this raytracing thing isn't based off of GPU only as the entirety of the pc building community speaks of. At least you pointed it out, not being a smartass as the first guy that replied to me :)
Are you using an RTX 4090 to run games at 1080p? Those who have the budget to buy a 4090 will probably only use 4K resolution. 1080p is not a problem for this GPU, so as the video is a performance comparison of the CPUs, this resolution must only be to cause stress on the CPU, right?
what about use who run vr i have a 2560x1440 monitor with a 4090 but i use it mainly for vr games which it is perfect for yea if its only for 1080 gaming then its over kill but 1080 monitor and vr gaming its perfect. its a vr gaming card too not just 4k
I would say 7800x3d is best for just "gaming"... You can clearly see that 7800x3d is utilised really high (almost double than that of 7950x3d) in some games... If more ill optimised games come through in the future which I'm pretty sure will happen, 7800x3d would have to put up some fight... But still bang for the buck "right now"
Me watching those comments with my 13900KS 7600 DD5 whitout OC anything, and i can tell you that in 1440P and 4K those CPU can't compet with the KS version, amd's processor suck a lot especially with the 1% low, and burn like hell, the best gaming processor of amd this year is the 7700X but people listen to much marketing !
Yeah best for no-brainers but not for pc enthusiasts and power users. 7800x3d is efficient and offers really good performance per watt but it’s not the best gaming/productivity cpu or bang for buck by any means. And It’s using more cpu usage bc it has 8 cores vs 16 core 7950x3d. If you knew more about pc’s you wouldn’t be calling a $550 8 core cpu best bang for buck. It’s the best cpu out of box with 6000 mhz ram/air cooler tho. But if you get cheap Hynix a die (same price as 6000mhz ddr5) enter a 8800mhz xmp in less than 1 minute that tittle quickly fades away.
Also you can get 3200mhz cl14-14-14-34 ddr4 for $70 this ram goes over 4000mhz and beats ddr5 under 7600mhz bc the speed and latency curve of ram. I’ve seen ppl do 4300c15 or 4700c17 bdie is best ddr4. HMCG78AGBUA081 is cheap Hynix a die for same price as ddr4. I’ve seen this ram do 9000mhz
That comparison is meaningless unless you don't know anything about what the 3D V-cache brings. The 7900X isn't much better in gaming conpared to 7800X or even 7600X in games with lower specs. Most games are fine with 6 cores and 8 cores are already enough for any game. The 7800X3D is a different story because it isn't the core count (and a small diffference in frequency), but the huge amout of cache which allows it to store data and skip over accesing the RAM to get that information. It also helps for faster comunication between cores. In games it is mostly the waiting for the information which holds you from reaching 100 FPS (except heavily optimised games like CS:GO).
@@Swagarot That's completely not true. For starters, stability is still important, which will differ between the CPUs, regardless of resolution. Also, RT scales with resolution and RT has a significant impact on CPUs.
@@Akrymir in this case since the performance is very similar between these 2 CPUs there won't be a different, obviously if we compare a 3600 and 7600x in 4k there will be a difference, I'm talking here about this specific case.
@@Swagarot If you actually paid attention, then you'd realize that's not true. W3 had multiple lag spikes, tanking it's .1% lows, also happened in FH5.
People need to realize anything beyond the 7800X3D, current and previous have never garnered many more frames in gaming. That a x900 and x950 are for video editing, budget professional processors. Most games as you can see aren't optimized well enough to utilize the hardware anyway, and unless you're a content creator you'll never utilize a 7950X3D properly.
Do yall wanna know why the 7950x3d has aome nice wins? Because it can hanlde the 4090 better wirh the bottleneck happening! Yall wanna act like there isnt one yet the 795px3d is much much less utilized. Meaning less of a bottleneck. Not as cpu limited! The only reason the 7800x3d can keep up is due to the extra 3d cache on the 2 cores. Had double the cpu usage in most situations also.
@@jek230 Each chiplet can have up to 8 cores at once. L3 cache is shared among all cores at THAT EXACT chiplet. It means that if core of the first chiplet needs to request a data that's allocated in L3 cache of other chiplet, you get the latency of infinity fabric bus. 6- and 8-core CPUs are based on a single one, so no Infinity fabric = no cache latency. By the way, infinity fabric is not that bad, but it's all about CPU demanding tasks and RAM OC. 3D-V cache is just a technology to stack additional cache on a chiplet and minimize requests to RAM and other chiplets, that's it. First idea of that was about creating some double chiplet-X3D monsters like 5950x3d with 384mb L3 cache, but it was cancelled since it was too defective (official info from amd).
I'm surprised people go out of their way to toggle the unused cache cores on the 7950X3D for performance. Seems kind of annoying going into the bios for that every time. I got the 7800X3D for its lower wattage and so I could use it more comfortably with a 2 fan AIO. If the 7950X3D was only ~$150 more than the 7800X3D I would've gotten it, but being over $300 more and having niche use cases in video editing and certain games is not something I want to think about when buying an all-out expensive new PC. I put that money towards two 990 PROs instead.
Games wont be made with any more than 8 cores/ 16 threads in mind as the current console generation has that setup. Also even the 13900ks has only 8 P cores.
Is a good choice buy 7800X3D + RTX 4080? I dont see a big difference between 7800X3D and 7950X3D, i want it for games and streaming Can somebody recommend me a build pc with 7800X3D+RTX4080?
Games is pushing the r7 7800X3D over 60-70+ usage while the r9 stay at 25 max.. So imagine the r9 at 60-70+ same game.. So i'll take that 7950x3d over 7800x3d every day and especially for discord streaming and everything else.
99.999% of my time is gaming. I hope i can get a 7800x3d before they sell out copletely. Living in Arizona I also really appreciate low power usage as my room is easily the hottest room in the house.
If you do mostly gaming and normal office work, get the 7800x3D, its price/performance for these tasks is insane. I however also do a lot of render work, and in that case the 7950x3D is a lot faster for those tasks, while still being awesome at gaming. However, unless you do those heavy CPU tasks it might not be worth the ~66% price uplift. It is worth mentioning that using balanced power mode, Game Bar, and disabling core isolation will significantly boost 7950x3D gaming performance (I am talking 10-20% more FPS), this is partially due to windows core parking.
@@kaiself lol you obviosly didnt understand the question. 7800X3D has one ccd, 7950X has 2 but only one has vcache. sometimes the 7950X3D uses the non vcache CCD for games so the performance is crippled in games. so showing 10% load means nothing, and does not indicate if it is using the right CCD or not. So maybe use some logic yourself before giving dumb answers
He obv is using non 3d ccd and when setup properly it doesn’t effect fps in any way the difference is below margin of error. If he wa just using 3d ccd you’d see 2% difference from 7800x3d usage not half. If it’s using half the usage of 7800x3d that obv means it’s using more cores
I dont understand why is it like that? Why should a couple hundred less costing CPU have same to more power in games than the one which is way more expensive??
It's been said that the 7800X3D performs better than the 7950X3D in games. And since its half the price, I think its a much better CPU for high end PC builders who want to get on the AM5 platform
A 850w PSU 80+ plus gold will be enough for a 7800X3D and 7900XTX reference model combo? What motherboard and ram you recommend? I wanna go full team red.
A good 550w psu will be fine also unless you do oc. But a 3rd party card will be fine I really liked how the fe looked too bad it overheats/has quality control issues
@@swat3729 550 w ? don't give advice if don't know what you're talking about , 800w 850w is the minimum for a 7900 xtx , stick with MSI motherboard X670 e carbon 7900 xtx MSI GAMING trio , evga PSU 850 minimum
Please test cpu intensive games!!! stop testing the same crap that other utubers do! single-player games that get cpu bound at 500 million fps and are now 10 years old.
The problem is, almost all of the games the 1 and 0.1 lows differences between 7950x3d and 7800x3d can go up to 50% depending on the game, in FH5 and Hogwards we can see that numbers, FH5 7950x3d 0.1 of 20 FPS while 7800x3d is at 120 9:50, it seens 7800 is a lot more smooth in almost all cenarios
Guys, don't fight over these these Chad 🗿 Cpus, the 7950x3d can almost fully utilise the 4090, on the other side, tge 7800x3d struggle of hard scenarios.
People in the comment section really like to trash talk the 12-core and 16-core CPUs. If you don't need the cores, DON'T buy the CPU, plain and simple. You buy the part that fits your application. If you're not using your PC for content creation or production applications, the 7800X3D is the perfect CPU for you. However, some people will greatly benefit from 12 or 16 cores, and THEIR PURCHASE is justified.
As long as games don't use more cores. Which will take a long time as most games run also on consoles. By the time more cores are needed, we will have much faster CPU's. Next gen PS and Xbox will make 16 core CPU's the optimal. But that's still many years away.
Looking at just the insane usage difference in games makes me really want to go for 7950x3d. Games pushing a cpu over 60-70+ usage isn’t in my comfort zone. Especially not if I’m running a 4090. I’ll take that 7950x3d over 7800x3d anytime especially since remember discord streaming and everything else that everyone does till chug on your cpu. That 7950x3d gone come home to daddy.
What if you -are- running a 4090 - as I will be once I build my rig - is 7800x3D a better choice then, esp. if I am not planning to do much else on this rig and don't video edit etc?
♥♥Please make the gameplays in 4k. At maximum resolution it is possible to know which processor really helps the GPU, otherwise, if there is no difference in FPS gain at 4k, the best processor will be the one with the lowest price.
@@Taima_the_lion that’s because the games don’t utilize the full CPU. The 7950X3D is for users who want to work and play games at the same time, hence the higher core/thread count
@@Taima_the_lion no it's absolutely not. He just highlighted the average but that's not the most important thing to take into account. You should focus much more on the 1% low and 0.1% which determines how smooth your experience will be and more often the 7800x3d is ahead.
So a 7800X3D, one of the best gaming CPUs on the market, paired with a 4090, only gets about 90 FPS in Hogwarts Legaxy? In 1080 resolution?! Games these days...
Im not undertstanding why the 7800x3d is performing better or the same in games over the 7950x3d... the 7950x3d is faster in everyway. can someone explain
@@dd22koopaesverde58 now 2023 is now considered budget i5 13600K :D yeah i think so too 13400 is a terrible processor 12400 yes good processor and 5600G
@@zonelore the i5 is mid-high cpu the 12400f and 13400f are mid but 12400f is cheaper and the i3 is the low-bugdet the best for people that want gaming high perforance but cant get more but i would prefer the i5 11400f or 10400f and dont forget the low end pemtium and the trash poop celeron that cant even use for word
Nothing is the bottleneck. If you want to test a CPU, you definitely do not want the GPU to bottleneck, which is why they went with a RTX 4090 on 1080p, and since the least games use even 8 cores and most of them just 1-4, the CPU will also of course be unable to be fully utilized.
Games :
CYBERPUNK 2077 - 0:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077
Spider-Man - 1:38 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesSpiderManPC
Hitman 3 - 2:39- gvo.deals/TestingGamesHitman3
Hogwarts Legacy - 3:47 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy
CS GO - 5:00
Horizon Zero Dawn - 6:01 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesH0D
The Last of Us Part I - 7:10
Microsoft Flight Simulator - 8:21 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesMFS20
Forza Horizon 5 - 9:24 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5
The Witcher 3 - 10:38 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesWitcher
System:
Windows 11
Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW
Ryzen 9 7950X3D - bit.ly/41wwPIV
Gigabyte X670E AORUS MASTER - bit.ly/3BRDIIG
CPU Cooler - be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 - bit.ly/35G5atV
GeForce RTX 4090 24GB - bit.ly/3CSaMCj
G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz CL38
SSD - 2xSAMSUNG 970 EVO M.2 2280 1TB - bit.ly/2NmWeQe
Power Supply CORSAIR RM850i 850W - bit.ly/3i2VoGI
Pubg?
can you test in the game noita... this game require a loot of the cpu, they say that more cores is better, even in a ryzen with 16 cores 32 threads from the 5000 generation still lag in this game sometimes
Among Us ?
No way you were using a 850w for all dat
I'm so glad now that the 7950x3d was completely sold out at Microcenter. So I "settled" for the 7800x3d. I do like 80% gaming on my PC and the rest watching RUclips and browsing. It's the perfect CPU for me.
The 7800x3d is a beast
I have one coming today but I'm worried about the idle time wattage.
yo me too lol. I rarely even edit my vids
The 7950x3d only caters to a niche variety so yeah it wouldn't matter for most but that cpu usage is something to note
13600K with proper tuning is on par with 7800X3D while cheaper + cooler + better efficiency day to day use + superior multi core performance
The 7950X3D is perfect for me, I didn't want to compromise on Editing and Rendering, but I also wanted a blazing fast gaming CPU, so it fit the bill nicely.
Yeah that's why i don't understand why people are complaining that it's more expensive but not faster in games compared to the 7800X3D.
Why would anyone build 2 separate PCs for gaming and productivity when you only need to sacrifice 2-5% performance in single or multi-core for a single package. It's literally the best CPU in the market if you do everything with it.
I used to have a 5800X3D which i replaced for the 7950X3D since i can do my huge excel sheets so much faster it's not even a contest while also having one of the best gaming performances.
@@kerotomas1 For gaming focus only it is a waste of money, that is a true statement, me for example I use my rig primarily for gaming, other than just browsing or something of that nature where performance is irrelevant anyway. The 7800x3d is way cheaper and performs on par with the 7950x3d, not because it has a better architecture but because the 7950x3d has a worse architecture. Because of AMD limiting 3d-v cache to only one chiplet, you can only benefit from 3d-v cache on half the cores, and because of the latency to communicate between chiplets, is it best to simply run games on those 8 cores with 3d-v cache rather than using all 16 but having then to communicate between chiplets, effectively bringing the 7950x3d down to the same number of cores active as the 7800x3d when gaming, the difference in certain games is probably because amd downclocked hard the 7800x3d to avoid competing too hard with the 7900x3d and the 7950x3d.
this CPU can literally do it all even well after AM5 comes out cuz of the V cache and high core count. needs a bit of tinkering in process lasso but other than that it is literally the best CPU on the market right now. runs cool and sips power so its pretty much perfect for SFX builds which i have, and its a gaming and productivity monster. or maybe that's just me trying to validate my purchase.
@@adridelli9 14900K
cope
7800x3d = lower cpu power, same fps as 7950x3d
man what an awesome cpu
Also cheaper
as far as I've learned, they have the same number of 3d cores, which is why gaming performance is virtually equal, but the 7950x3d has more overall cores, which makes it better for other tasks like rendering or editing
yes i agree, i was gonna get the 7950x3D but after watching several videos the 7800x3D out performed it in almost every games. I did not regret my purchase, and after tuning it in the bios my temps went from 80 degrees to in games to 45-53 degrees max. All cores locked to 5Ghz after i tuned it too.
7800x3d is purely for gaming hence why much its more efficient and has a lower price
while the 7950x3d is meant to get similar gaming performance while achieving amazing productivity
so for purely gaming, 7800x3d
for productivity, either 13900k or 7950x3d
@@1specialist_7987 can i still game and stream and edit with the 7950x3d ?
or should I still get the 7800x3d ?
I say, buy 7800X3D if you primary game as the price right now is 1/2 for 7950X3D ($300+ vs $600+). You can always choose to upgrade later when the 7950X3D price drops and you need the extra cores for heavier multitasking work rather than gaming.
buy 7800x3d and save the money for 2024 feb. for next gen cpu
I think this is the best answer. @@destroyer_vq_9570
@@destroyer_vq_9570 well that aged
@@elderman64 b4ruhhhhh
@@destroyer_vq_9570Also AM5 Socket?
The power efficiency of the 7800x3D is unfrikin believable.
undervolt why does no one mention this??!??
Checking power efficiency on a high end cpu? LMAO
@@velk_wanggoudan uh yeah! all INTEL does is throw power at it AMD is squashing INTEL currently, that power also turns into heat. But maybe you like your room at 80 degrees f at all times? lol
the cpu power is insane, just 50-70w and more fps them a i9 13900k
@@CAT_CUTIEnah you can compare it to me buying an ebike to get to school in 10 mins instead of driving and taking 20 mins. Sure I can't go on highway with my ebike, but I can get to where I need to get much quicker and easier with the ebike
@@CAT_CUTIE Thank god I don't work with computers.
@@CAT_CUTIE By "work-performance" you mean graphic/video editing/code compiling. For the vast majority of common consumers like me, "work" is office suite and web apps, for which the 7800x3d is already an overkill. For most of us gaming is about the most CPU-intensive daily task we can stack on our home CPUs, and the 7800x3d excels.
@@CAT_CUTIE for your case maybe a car makes sense, for me it doesn't. Same thing here. If you're a gamer and wont be doing a lot of other productivity things then the gaming cpu makes way more sense,
So guys let's say if you game like in flight sim, do many photoshop projects, files editings in various softwares, will the 7800X3D be enough or choose another?
Respectfully you need to redo your test. Theres a known bug when switching from 7950x3d and 7800x3d with the AMD chipset drivers. You have to do a fresh windows install after using a 7950X3D or performance will suffer on the 7800X3D
Performance will suffer? How do you expect a lower clocked chip with less cache to outperform a better binned chip? Jeez....
@@nikolajovanovic3647 If he used 7950x3d cpu first and didn't do fresh install before using 7800x3d the windows leaves the config files for the core parking feature from 7950x3d. It will essentially "disable" some of the cores on 7800x3d. that's why he said performance will suffer
@@nikolajovanovic3647 because of total board power speed bins and ccx cross core complex latency issues. Those who disable 1 ccx show better boost rates leading to better gaming scores. But that's not the only difference between the two chips. That's how.
The code in the AMD chipset drivers optimizes the scheduler based on there being 2 ccx's. However the AMD software is not resetting and reoptimizing if you put in a 5800X3D properly. Even if you uninstall and reinstall with a clean install flag the old settings persist. You need a fresh windows install. I'm sure it's a bug AMD will remedy in the future. I can explain in better detail if you want.
Every other channel that did this properly is showing bigger gains. That said, if you do mixed work and gaming the 5950X3D still might be the best solution.
Yeap these tests seemed off. the 7800x3d should be beating the 7950x3d by a fair bit more than that. Definitely something wrong here.
@@F1NATIK How is it that the 7800X3D would perform better than the 7950X3D? It's lower than the 79.
i feel sorry for those who bought the 7950X3D.
How come?
7950x3d can become 7800x3d by disabling half cores
@@BanaNutz_Gaming because he thinks that cpus are only for gaming which is fine but wrong and we dont hate him for that just dont tell him
i mean, buying a 16 cores CPU just for gaming is one hell of "future proofing", anyone who bought one does productivity work too (at least that's what i hope)
Why? Engineers, arquitects, sound designers and editors need more cores to work fine, if it is only for gaming, of course is a waste of money 👍🏻
Did you make sure to do a fresh install when installing the 7800X3d?
If you installed it after you installed the 7900 then the 7900x3d scheduling software may have affected some of the benchmarks.
Scheduling software only effects 7950x3d when Xbox game bar sends a task to the wrong core without the extra cache. 7800x3d all have extra cache so no task can be sent to the wrong core
@@kodakblack531 AMD recommends a clean install of windows due the core parking firmware. With the 7800X3D, the firmware may unintentionally park up to 2 cores. Gamers Nexus covered this in their review of the 7800X3D. So, if you've installed a 79XX3D chip with the chipset drivers and you then install a 7800X3D, you will be REQUIRED to perform a clean install of Windows as uninstalling the chipset drivers does not fix the issue.
@@RussellKasem damn that sucks. They really should’ve made a thread director on the chip or made their own software that controls it instead of depending on Xbox game bar. Also every cpu benefits from a clean install especially a custom windows iso. If I’m going to reinstall windows you might as well do a custom windows iso which helps fps on every cpu no bloatware/trackers slowing down your pc I’ve seen it boost 20fps in warzone and less stutters/lows.
This dude definitely screwed up this part
Ok please explain this thing to me, i wanna know
11:11 newer CPU's newer floating horses
I got the 7950X3D bundle at Microcenter. Paid 757 after tax for the cpu, X670E tomahawk, and DDR5-6000 RGB GSkill 2x16 RAM. I couldn't ask for a better deal. After selling my 5800X3D and B550 motherboard the upgrade cost me 500. Was well worth it and man having that paired with my 4090 what a dream. Fps is ridiculous
7950x3d is a good chip. if you play games which love 3d cache, you can just disable the 8 cores without the 3d cache. if you play games that do not benefit from 3d cache but instead on higher clockspeeds, then you can just disable the 3d cache cores. and if you want to video edit you can have both enabled.. this CPU is meant exactly for this use case..
yes, we all already understood how terrible this processor is
Clock speeds don’t matter. The ipc matters you can have 100ghz and still be dog sh*t
@@zonelore it's not terrible..it's just made for a specific use case.
@@kodakblack531 same ipc with more clockspeed = more fps. There is a reason why csgo, a game that doesnt benefit from 3d vcacheruns with 800fps+ on the high frequency cores , but at 600+ on the 3d ones
@@SweatyFeetGirl true also more cores in csgo if 7950x3d had 16 3d cores it would still be faster in any game actually
Hello, can Power 850 with ATX3 form factor be suitable for Ryzen 7 7800x3d RTX 4090 graphics card?
The 7950X3D has been updated to the BIOS, so the performance is more powerful than it is now. This video has no current comparison meaning.
Does the CPU run with stock settings or with negative curver optimizer?
X3D is such efficient and a beast!
all@jj-wi6ug
Nice video and now the same with a 7900xtx and the both CPU's please 😋🤘🏼
Seems to be more a problem of game optimization… 7800 cpu utilization almost 80% avg… 7950 utilization almost 40% avg. or cpu utilization of the 7950 is always half of the 7800. Can this be fixed with games or firmware updates later??
It's got double the core count thats why. The 7800X 3D is only an 8 core 16 thread CPU.
@@Bang4BuckPCGamer i read somewhere that is how games are optimized via Windows management. Seems that Windows goes first for the higher frequency cores, ignoring the lower frequency cores (the ones with 3D cach)… so it is optimization problem. I dont know if they already fixed it. Apparently the 7950 3D only half of the cores are 3D vcached. The rest are high frequency cores….
4k should also be included, as CPU stability is important and RT scales up with pixel count (which directly affects CPUs).
When you show the conclusion of the average on the bottom, you should include the lows as well. Having them both hit the same average doesn't mean they had the same stability. Also, games that have options RT need to show RT on AND off. As a side note, this is especially true when you benchmark x3d vs non x3d.
Is it really necessary to show 4k?
At that point it is 100% a GPU bottleneck and there is no way to show the difference between these two CPU's, considering what games he benchmarks. If RT you mean raytracing, it does not affect CPU whatsoever since it is taken care off GPU's RT cores entirely. This was entirely a CPU test to see which one pulls more framerate out on lower resolution, GPU is not the bottleneck on those settings, CPUs are.
As for the 1% (or/and 0.1% lows), i don't consider that necessary next to similar and/or equal CPU's as 7800X3D/7950X3D, as much as you talk about stability, you'd see 0 issues. Your eyes would not be able to make that 1ms difference, does that really matter to any of us?
@@gateopssss oh man u got no clue how demanding RT on a CPU is. Do ur research.
@@gateopssss If you actually watched, you'd see there were differences in the lows. For example, 7950 had multiple spikes in W3 and FH.
Also, as someone who use to code graphics pipelines for game engines... yes RT has a serious impact on CPUs. Primarily calculating the BVH structure.
I know a lot of this is not common knowledge, but you really shouldn't be going off on things you really don't know anything about.
@@Akrymir Okay now i'm starting to see the issue.
Honestly i was questioning myself how tf can RT have any impact on CPU since it's entirely based off of RT cores, now i'm seeing the spikes, i haven't really seen the video.
I'm interested, i'm gonna have to do some research around, thank you for pointing it out. My bad, i guess all this raytracing thing isn't based off of GPU only as the entirety of the pc building community speaks of.
At least you pointed it out, not being a smartass as the first guy that replied to me :)
@@Shishioyou can be correct it depends on the game and programming
You won't see much at 1080p. Push it to 4k however and the margin increases significantly.
Are you using an RTX 4090 to run games at 1080p?
Those who have the budget to buy a 4090 will probably only use 4K resolution.
1080p is not a problem for this GPU, so as the video is a performance comparison of the CPUs, this resolution must only be to cause stress on the CPU, right?
yes
what about use who run vr i have a 2560x1440 monitor with a 4090 but i use it mainly for vr games which it is perfect for yea if its only for 1080 gaming then its over kill but 1080 monitor and vr gaming its perfect. its a vr gaming card too not just 4k
I would say 7800x3d is best for just "gaming"... You can clearly see that 7800x3d is utilised really high (almost double than that of 7950x3d) in some games... If more ill optimised games come through in the future which I'm pretty sure will happen, 7800x3d would have to put up some fight... But still bang for the buck "right now"
it's utilizing almost double because when you're gaming it only uses the cores with the 3DV cache on. so 50% of the chip
@@MEGABUMSTENCH ahhh gotcha
@@AtomicAV7 you will want the extra cores in the future. Buy the most CPU you can afford.
Me watching those comments with my 13900KS 7600 DD5 whitout OC anything, and i can tell you that in 1440P and 4K those CPU can't compet with the KS version, amd's processor suck a lot especially with the 1% low, and burn like hell, the best gaming processor of amd this year is the 7700X but people listen to much marketing !
Yeah best for no-brainers but not for pc enthusiasts and power users. 7800x3d is efficient and offers really good performance per watt but it’s not the best gaming/productivity cpu or bang for buck by any means. And It’s using more cpu usage bc it has 8 cores vs 16 core 7950x3d. If you knew more about pc’s you wouldn’t be calling a $550 8 core cpu best bang for buck. It’s the best cpu out of box with 6000 mhz ram/air cooler tho. But if you get cheap Hynix a die (same price as 6000mhz ddr5) enter a 8800mhz xmp in less than 1 minute that tittle quickly fades away.
it's still kinda underwhelming results. imo this time best budget gaming/streaming CPU is 13600k at 300$
13600kf I’ve seen it for $263 and I’ve seen $190 12600k best budget creator cpu
Also you can get 3200mhz cl14-14-14-34 ddr4 for $70 this ram goes over 4000mhz and beats ddr5 under 7600mhz bc the speed and latency curve of ram. I’ve seen ppl do 4300c15 or 4700c17 bdie is best ddr4. HMCG78AGBUA081 is cheap Hynix a die for same price as ddr4. I’ve seen this ram do 9000mhz
@@mfsavage75749000?? Man I couldn't even get my viper Patriot over 4000 on the z390. I think I just stuck with 3200 and low timings
gpu based games are best for 7800x3d
and cpu games are the best for 7950x3d
you could see in csgo and hitman cuz hitman is a kinda cpu based game
7900x without 3d cache vs 7800x3d please, because they have pretty simular price
7800x3d wins in games there saved you the trouble
That comparison is meaningless unless you don't know anything about what the 3D V-cache brings.
The 7900X isn't much better in gaming conpared to 7800X or even 7600X in games with lower specs.
Most games are fine with 6 cores and 8 cores are already enough for any game.
The 7800X3D is a different story because it isn't the core count (and a small diffference in frequency), but the huge amout of cache which allows it to store data and skip over accesing the RAM to get that information. It also helps for faster comunication between cores. In games it is mostly the waiting for the information which holds you from reaching 100 FPS (except heavily optimised games like CS:GO).
13700k all the way
@@lexavlogs7149 Nah, 7800X3D does better in gaming.
Though, I agree 13700K does better outside gaming.
@@lexavlogs7149 only idiots buy 13700K
Does anyone know the name of the song at the ad? I've been looking for it for years
everyone seems to be using premium
Would be nice to see the comparison in 4k
probably no difference at 4k because at that point its like 99% gpu dependent
@@Swagarot That's completely not true. For starters, stability is still important, which will differ between the CPUs, regardless of resolution. Also, RT scales with resolution and RT has a significant impact on CPUs.
@@Akrymir in this case since the performance is very similar between these 2 CPUs there won't be a different, obviously if we compare a 3600 and 7600x in 4k there will be a difference, I'm talking here about this specific case.
@@Swagarot If you actually paid attention, then you'd realize that's not true. W3 had multiple lag spikes, tanking it's .1% lows, also happened in FH5.
@@Akrymir here are some 4k behcnmark which shows exactly what i said ruclips.net/video/VkrTO-D6R38/видео.html no point arguing about this..
People need to realize anything beyond the 7800X3D, current and previous have never garnered many more frames in gaming. That a x900 and x950 are for video editing, budget professional processors. Most games as you can see aren't optimized well enough to utilize the hardware anyway, and unless you're a content creator you'll never utilize a 7950X3D properly.
true for gamers 7800x3d is max
Would be nice to see comparison with rx7900xtx instead of rtx 4090
The RX sucks
nope@@sisqomisqo2019
Different layouts of V-cache on these CPU's.
Do yall wanna know why the 7950x3d has aome nice wins? Because it can hanlde the 4090 better wirh the bottleneck happening!
Yall wanna act like there isnt one yet the 795px3d is much much less utilized. Meaning less of a bottleneck. Not as cpu limited!
The only reason the 7800x3d can keep up is due to the extra 3d cache on the 2 cores.
Had double the cpu usage in most situations also.
so huge waste of money for games
Ryzen 9 3d sucks soo much
It's not really made for games. It's made for twitch streamers.
7950x3d is a versatile gpu, like wanna play game - switch off second chiplet, need multicore video and rendering power - enable both chiplets
The 7800 only have 1 chiplet? How it works?
@@jek230 Each chiplet can have up to 8 cores at once. L3 cache is shared among all cores at THAT EXACT chiplet. It means that if core of the first chiplet needs to request a data that's allocated in L3 cache of other chiplet, you get the latency of infinity fabric bus. 6- and 8-core CPUs are based on a single one, so no Infinity fabric = no cache latency. By the way, infinity fabric is not that bad, but it's all about CPU demanding tasks and RAM OC.
3D-V cache is just a technology to stack additional cache on a chiplet and minimize requests to RAM and other chiplets, that's it. First idea of that was about creating some double chiplet-X3D monsters like 5950x3d with 384mb L3 cache, but it was cancelled since it was too defective (official info from amd).
I'm surprised people go out of their way to toggle the unused cache cores on the 7950X3D for performance. Seems kind of annoying going into the bios for that every time.
I got the 7800X3D for its lower wattage and so I could use it more comfortably with a 2 fan AIO. If the 7950X3D was only ~$150 more than the 7800X3D I would've gotten it, but being over $300 more and having niche use cases in video editing and certain games is not something I want to think about when buying an all-out expensive new PC. I put that money towards two 990 PROs instead.
every time? are you telling me i have to do this every time i boot my pc?
The utilization is getting higher and higher for 8Core CPUs and opting for more cores will be better for the long run
upgrading from 7800x3d to 8800x3d in next year is better than buying 7950x3d
@@hyperninja_-z who upgrades their cpu every generation
Games wont be made with any more than 8 cores/ 16 threads in mind as the current console generation has that setup. Also even the 13900ks has only 8 P cores.
@@hawkred1295 Definitely, but if you play battlefield 2042, it’s 92% utilized. Kinda nuts
Is a good choice buy 7800X3D + RTX 4080? I dont see a big difference between 7800X3D and 7950X3D, i want it for games and streaming
Can somebody recommend me a build pc with 7800X3D+RTX4080?
If you want it for games and streaming you should look at the CPU usage.
Isn't it the same CPU 3d part on both is just 8 cores?
Games is pushing the r7 7800X3D over 60-70+ usage while the r9 stay at 25 max.. So imagine the r9 at 60-70+ same game..
So i'll take that 7950x3d over 7800x3d every day and especially for discord streaming and everything else.
Makes no sense when the 7950x3d can boost 700mhz higher at stock...
Please can you do the same test at 4k?
99.999% of my time is gaming. I hope i can get a 7800x3d before they sell out copletely. Living in Arizona I also really appreciate low power usage as my room is easily the hottest room in the house.
The Ryzen 7 7800x3D just works, that's why Todd Howard got one too.
Buy Skyrim
if i am to do editing or rendering how fast is the 7950x3D compared to the primarily gaming cpu which is the 7800x3D
much much better at rendering
If you do mostly gaming and normal office work, get the 7800x3D, its price/performance for these tasks is insane.
I however also do a lot of render work, and in that case the 7950x3D is a lot faster for those tasks, while still being awesome at gaming. However, unless you do those heavy CPU tasks it might not be worth the ~66% price uplift.
It is worth mentioning that using balanced power mode, Game Bar, and disabling core isolation will significantly boost 7950x3D gaming performance (I am talking 10-20% more FPS), this is partially due to windows core parking.
7800x3d for gaming, 7950x3d for workstation/gaming.
do you use only cache ccd on 7950x3d?
7800 = 8 core = 20% load
7950 = 16 core = 10% load
turn on logic
@@kaiself lol you obviosly didnt understand the question. 7800X3D has one ccd, 7950X has 2 but only one has vcache. sometimes the 7950X3D uses the non vcache CCD for games so the performance is crippled in games. so showing 10% load means nothing, and does not indicate if it is using the right CCD or not. So maybe use some logic yourself before giving dumb answers
He obv is using non 3d ccd and when setup properly it doesn’t effect fps in any way the difference is below margin of error. If he wa just using 3d ccd you’d see 2% difference from 7800x3d usage not half. If it’s using half the usage of 7800x3d that obv means it’s using more cores
Also he’d say if he disabled non 3d ccd
Hey Mate, How’d you get your temp so low? Cheers
I run a aio on my build 7950x3d i avarage 40 to 50 c on it
$230 extra for 5 fps, SOME of the time. Thats about $230 per 0 FPS 😃
ordered my 7800x3d today !!!! xD
Hello.It's been exactly 1 year, are you satisfied?
@@unutamadimseni VERY!!!
@@Deathscythe91 tysm have a good day!
Why is the 7950x3d CPU load half of the 7800x3d? Does the parked cores cut 50% of the load value?
simply more cores?
More cores games use 1-6 cores majority of the time phantom liberty uses 8 and that is the highest ever
7800x3d is good for just gaming and the 7950x3d is better for general tasks and work with the bonus of gaming
people should test battlefield 2042 on 64vs64 maps
I dont understand why is it like that? Why should a couple hundred less costing CPU have same to more power in games than the one which is way more expensive??
thanks i just bought windows 11 pro with the coupon you gave, cost me $22.
@jj-wi6ug Yes it worked fine!
It's been said that the 7800X3D performs better than the 7950X3D in games. And since its half the price, I think its a much better CPU for high end PC builders who want to get on the AM5 platform
A 850w PSU 80+ plus gold will be enough for a 7800X3D and 7900XTX reference model combo? What motherboard and ram you recommend? I wanna go full team red.
Yes, that'll be fine.
Be careful about reference model unless you already have it they have overheating issues/ no room for overclocking if it didn’t
A good 550w psu will be fine also unless you do oc. But a 3rd party card will be fine I really liked how the fe looked too bad it overheats/has quality control issues
@@swat3729 550 w ? don't give advice if don't know what you're talking about , 800w 850w is the minimum for a 7900 xtx , stick with MSI motherboard X670 e carbon 7900 xtx MSI GAMING trio , evga PSU 850 minimum
Please test cpu intensive games!!! stop testing the same crap that other utubers do! single-player games that get cpu bound at 500 million fps and are now 10 years old.
1080p? is this real? i thught those stuff are for 4k gaming or at least 1440p
How do you want to do a CPU Comparison, when you always run into Graphics limit?
Graphics limit with 4090 ?
The problem is, almost all of the games the 1 and 0.1 lows differences between 7950x3d and 7800x3d can go up to 50% depending on the game, in FH5 and Hogwards we can see that numbers, FH5 7950x3d 0.1 of 20 FPS while 7800x3d is at 120 9:50, it seens 7800 is a lot more smooth in almost all cenarios
Absolute nonsense.
I look at this build and think, "amazing, the 7800 is a beast and gonna save me some money", then I look at the prices on that 4090 and cry.
The 7950X3D isn’t just for gaming it’s for production..
I bought it because it helps me make $$$ not just play games.
Don't understand why 79050x3d is doing badly? Isn't more cores = faster and stronger cpu?
Do you ever use warzone in your tests?
Guys, don't fight over these these Chad 🗿 Cpus, the 7950x3d can almost fully utilise the 4090, on the other side, tge 7800x3d struggle of hard scenarios.
People in the comment section really like to trash talk the 12-core and 16-core CPUs. If you don't need the cores, DON'T buy the CPU, plain and simple. You buy the part that fits your application. If you're not using your PC for content creation or production applications, the 7800X3D is the perfect CPU for you. However, some people will greatly benefit from 12 or 16 cores, and THEIR PURCHASE is justified.
Do people only look at watt usage and not look at the percentage of what the CPU is using? 7800x3d almost uses x2 the amount of processing power
4090 and Ryzen 7 7800X3D for 1920*1080? Are your sure?
So to be clear why is your 4090 not reaching its potential without a bottleneck?...
More Cores don't mean anything when it comes to these Processors..
Well it doesn't mean anything when it comes to games, because games will very rarely use more than 8 cores.
As long as games don't use more cores. Which will take a long time as most games run also on consoles. By the time more cores are needed, we will have much faster CPU's. Next gen PS and Xbox will make 16 core CPU's the optimal. But that's still many years away.
Looking at just the insane usage difference in games makes me really want to go for 7950x3d.
Games pushing a cpu over 60-70+ usage isn’t in my comfort zone. Especially not if I’m running a 4090.
I’ll take that 7950x3d over 7800x3d anytime especially since remember discord streaming and everything else that everyone does till chug on your cpu.
That 7950x3d gone come home to daddy.
What if you -are- running a 4090 - as I will be once I build my rig - is 7800x3D a better choice then, esp. if I am not planning to do much else on this rig and don't video edit etc?
What kind of Ram this cpu support ? I read the specs and the max frequency is 5200mhz but i would like to buy 6000mhz ram for 7950x3d 🤷♀😁
I have 6200 stable, same as the 7950x I was on before
@@RudyBloor In your opinion an ASUS X670-P is enought for this cpu ? Strix are too expensive for me I want an X670 😢😢
@@playerforlife4957 I think msi x670-p would work out better
@@RudyBloor I don’t like msi I have had bad experience in the past 🤣
@@playerforlife4957 the chip will definitely work with the Asus as well
♥♥Please make the gameplays in 4k. At maximum resolution it is possible to know which processor really helps the GPU, otherwise, if there is no difference in FPS gain at 4k, the best processor will be the one with the lowest price.
People think the purpose of computers are for video games only. 😂
I have a 7700X and a 4070 ti super but when I see this Iam glad😊
Cz the 7800X3D Bests the 7950X3D and a 13900KS
name of the FPS monitor?
Pensando en el consumo energético me quedo con el Ryzen 7 7800X3D... basta y sobra para todo.
7950X3D is the second best of both worlds. Pretty damn good CPU.
pretty shit if its performing relatively the same and some cases worse than a cpu that is $250 cheaper
@@Taima_the_lion that’s because the games don’t utilize the full CPU. The 7950X3D is for users who want to work and play games at the same time, hence the higher core/thread count
@@Taima_the_lion They're not performing the same in multi threaded tasks and rendering
@@nintendo2581 I'm talking just purely gaming but yea if you do other stuff it makes sense
@@Taima_the_lion no it's absolutely not. He just highlighted the average but that's not the most important thing to take into account. You should focus much more on the 1% low and 0.1% which determines how smooth your experience will be and more often the 7800x3d is ahead.
I wanna know this difference in games like World of Warcraft or Factorio :(.
honestly will wait for the 8000 series.
Ryzen 7 7800x3d vs Ryzen 9 7900x
Which one is better for gaming?
впринцепи разница в играх 2-10 фпс, поэтому лучше взять R7 он дешевле и холоднее
So a 7800X3D, one of the best gaming CPUs on the market, paired with a 4090, only gets about 90 FPS in Hogwarts Legaxy? In 1080 resolution?! Games these days...
has 4070 has shipped into you yet?
the reason why hogwarts is such low fps is actualy cuz of dunovo if i play the pirated version even on my ryzen 9 5900x i get higher frames then 89
Let's see a showdown between the 7800X3D and Ryzen 9 7900 non-X. Battle Of The Hippie Chips. 🙂
Is there a test with a more CPU heavy game
Nice to see how younger bro beat older)))
how does younger bro beat older? The r9 won in 7 out of 9 games.
Im not undertstanding why the 7800x3d is performing better or the same in games over the 7950x3d... the 7950x3d is faster in everyway. can someone explain
shit wished you had tested star citizen. but i'm gonna buy the 7950x3d anyways. update i decided to buy the 7800x3d hehe
A 4090 running at 50% or am I incorrect?
Is that msfs wiht the Framegan? on?
Please test MSFS with A310 at New York and FSLTL
Review lies! 7950 would have burned out at system startup
R7 7800X3D is a real budget processor with excellent performance! R9 7950x3D shit expensive
is not bugdet is high cpu whit entushiast gaming perforance a good bugdet is the r5 5600 or the i5 12400 both for less 200$
It's not a budget cpu lol
Yeah $549 is a really good budget cpu for a 6600 or a 3060.
@@dd22koopaesverde58
now 2023 is now considered budget i5 13600K :D yeah i think so too
13400 is a terrible processor
12400 yes good processor and 5600G
@@zonelore the i5 is mid-high cpu the 12400f and 13400f are mid but 12400f is cheaper and the i3 is the low-bugdet the best for people that want gaming high perforance but cant get more but i would prefer the i5 11400f or 10400f and dont forget the low end pemtium and the trash poop celeron that cant even use for word
7950X3D will beat 7800X3D in multi tasks or productivity
7800x3d is a Gaming CPU and costs a lot less.
Neither the CPU nor the graphics card are running at full throttle, so what is the bottleneck?
Nothing is the bottleneck. If you want to test a CPU, you definitely do not want the GPU to bottleneck, which is why they went with a RTX 4090 on 1080p, and since the least games use even 8 cores and most of them just 1-4, the CPU will also of course be unable to be fully utilized.
upload 1440p video too. 7800 x3d and rtx 4090 combi.
what the hell? the 7800x3d is better than the 7950x3d, because the 0,1-1% lows of the 7950x3d are TERRIBLE!
definitely 7800x3d > 7950x3d!
Look at the CPU usage
ı love 7800x3d but how is that possible 7950x3d has to beat 7800x3d like nothing