Watched the fight live, then watched it again today, still not sure why Fury fanboys were crying about the scoring. If we go by the compubox numbers Usyk had the more accurate punches and also he threw more.
Drunk me last night thought Fury nicked it by 1 round but!!! Sober me watched it again this morning and I gave it to Usyk by 2 👍 beer goggles definitely affect your judgement lol 🍻
After listening to British punditry about this fight it's crazy to get some actual unbiased folks calling it correctly. Fight wasn't close whatsoever. Fury promised he was going to knock Usyk out and retire him, but in reality all that weight was just to make sure there wasn't a repeat of Round 9 from the last fight. He fought too defensively, was scared to actually blow the gas tank against Usyk, and was happy to lose wide on the cards and then complain about being robbed.
Big John, you just said on the last weighing in show "if both fighters have skill, the bigger man wins" lolol. Now it's "speed is a killer" Usyk is a better boxer and he's faster with better cardio.
Josh and John are some of the worst predictors on planet Earth. The only thing worse than their fight picks is the way they refuse to ever acknowledge when they are wrong. Especially John. He should be studied.
I kept my scorecard and had 2 rounds that were really close. Even if you give both of them to Fury, Usyk still wins 115-113. Obviously, best case scenario for Usyk on my card is 117-111. So 116-112 sounds very fair to me.
Andy Ruiz had plenty opportunities to make fights but he was greedy. Him and Wilder were supposed to fight but Wilder's team said Andy was asking for too much money and the same thing happened with Fury. Andy fought Miller a few months ago but the fight was scored a draw even though Miller clearly won. Even Turki called it a robbery. As for Hearn not wanting the AJ vs Fury fight; that's inaccurate. Fury and Wilder froze AJ out of an undisputed fight; they both threatened that they'd freeze him out and they did; it's on record. Fury's team (Frank Warren and Bob Arum) also lied that the Wilder arbitration was dealt with, giving fasle hope that the AJ vs Fury Undisputed fight was gonna happen but when both men received their contracts, and AJ signed his, news came out that the Wilder arbitration was won by him, so him and Fury had to fight a third time. Then after AJ lost to Usyk a second time, Fury saw a wekness and then offered to fight AJ but he had a week's deadline to sign the contract; this was a few days after the loss (''Monday, Monday, Monday is the deadline'' is the famous statement that Fury made). Nobody would sign under those conditions. Fury went on to fight Chisora a third time but he never gave him a dedline to sign. We also have countless statements that he'll never fight AJ or AJ doesn't deserve to fight him because he lost to a fat sausage (Ruiz). If you've followed the division diligently; you'd know that Fury is the one who's always been negative about the AJ fight. This is partly due to what happened in sparring (even though it's said sparring doesn't matter) when AJ was on the come up and Fury was already a pro; he admitted that he got his ass kicked by AJ on record. Let's see if Fury makes excuses again because him vs AJ should be next for both men. These are the historical facts and there are receipts for them. As for AJ vs Wilder; we have Wilder's Tweet to Fury that he was offerred more money for the Undisputed fight with AJ than he was offered to fight Fury. Simply Google ''Wilder admits to ducking Joshua'' and follow the Twitter link. These guys made it possible for Usyk to creep in and spoil the party.
I thought they were going to fix the fight for Tyson. MULTIPLE times when usyk landed huge left hands the camera angle changed and commentary wouldn’t even mention it. Boxing scoring is subjective but I thought usyk won basically every round. The AI was right we just always automatically make the score so close for whatever reason it’s a human bias
I agree with Josh on the Battle statement. I would say it's not just an "excuse" but more an importantly a fact that the weight was missed. Using the word excuse waters down the situation
“it’s a robot, it can’t smoke weed John” 😂 The ‘AI referee’ had it 118-112 for Usyk. Whilst the AI judge was only used as an experimental 4th official and therefore didn’t impact the result. I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss its interpretation of the fight. It’s a brilliantly developed piece of software that’s measuring a whole host of metrics in real time such as; aggression,landed punches, impact of punches, defensive moves and more. The results in this fight are definitely worth a read when released. I think 118-112 is on the money
@@Cipher0ptic24no it’s freaking despicable how can he give a view as a “fighter” if he hasn’t been a fighter for decades it’s just ridiculous u must be a casual
If you’re deep into fighting world ,you absolutely do understand why Burns wants this fight and especially right now,even though he always wanted to fight Colby. Its a perfect moment for him to fight Colby . Also,absolutely agree with you guys on your take Colby accepting this fight. He just has to.
The fight with colby was on two weeks' notice.. he came of the couch and went three rounds.. with a killer, I would have loved to see it go al 5 rounds since Buckley was starting to breathe heavy..
how can u say an undefeated fighter who is a champ and knocked out 2 greatest fw of all time back 2 back have no chance against another fighter up a weightclass? come on guys, a casual take
@@giacalonebuilding4443bro that wasn’t the same volk that was the new washed volk that kod badly by Islam he’s never gonna fight the same again ili A loses to the top lightweights he’s too small u must be a casual
Are the fighters backed into a corner and forced to take the fight if their opponent doesn't make weight? Can't they refuse THAT fight and ask for a replacement opponent? There's usually someone on standby, isn't there?
With the Brian battle-Randy Brown situation, it makes it worse because remember when Pereira didn't make the weight against Stephen Thompson and he didn't take the fight? Remember the UFC was pissed and kind of punished Stephen for not taking the fight? Such bs
Josh and and John, what do you guys think of instead of it the fighter that missed weight only loses 20% the rules be changed to if you miss weight you can only make your show money and not your win money plus you still lose that 20% and the fighter that makes weight automatically makes his show and win money plus the 10% from the fighter that missed weight and the commission still gets there 10% I feel like this is more fair and a better incentive not to miss weight
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It's "Once you accept the fight... AT THAT WEIGHT". If they don't make the weight then 100% of their purse should go to the other guy. It would solve the problem. Or just do same day weigh-ins. We'd get better fights anyway with guys fighting at their actual weight. Not playing this silly weight-loss game.
Usyk is an amazing human being, a superlative boxer, he clearly won, 116-113; the commentators were surprised because their commentary was biased all the way through, Warren is an embarrassment, the wild boar has been castrated...
Warren is not an embarrasment,thats not accurate. The thing is ,he doesnt understand scoring ,also ,we have to say,some rounds were very close. Ok ,Usyk was winning them but not by much .
When Caio Borralho said nobody wants to fight him why not just give him the automatic title shot like they did with Islam or Umar as you claim everyone avoids them.
No they won't ... All 3 of them had loses against boxers that are not on the same level as Usyk! All 3 of them went to the distance with boxers that are not on the same level as Usyk! Are they capable to defeat Usyk ? Sure they are ... But saying that they would destroy him is ridiculous. I give Usyk a real good change ... He is way more allround than those 3... For example: better cardio, footwork, controlling distance etc etc
AI had the fight 10-2 usyk and scored the first round and the 12th 10-10. Idk if this guy is some kinda DEI hire for geeks or something but he is not qualified to do this job. The AI score was mentioned 20 times since last night
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Watched the fight live, then watched it again today, still not sure why Fury fanboys were crying about the scoring. If we go by the compubox numbers Usyk had the more accurate punches and also he threw more.
Drunk me last night thought Fury nicked it by 1 round but!!! Sober me watched it again this morning and I gave it to Usyk by 2 👍 beer goggles definitely affect your judgement lol 🍻
@@andrewstevens9840I wasn’t drunk and thought fury won by a few rounds
Was able to cash out for profit on Fury in the 11th round on Draft Kings. Wild
Oh dear u must be a casual @@meatrocket6979
Cause gambling is ruining the sport.
After listening to British punditry about this fight it's crazy to get some actual unbiased folks calling it correctly. Fight wasn't close whatsoever. Fury promised he was going to knock Usyk out and retire him, but in reality all that weight was just to make sure there wasn't a repeat of Round 9 from the last fight. He fought too defensively, was scared to actually blow the gas tank against Usyk, and was happy to lose wide on the cards and then complain about being robbed.
Big John, you just said on the last weighing in show "if both fighters have skill, the bigger man wins" lolol. Now it's "speed is a killer"
Usyk is a better boxer and he's faster with better cardio.
Mma yes. Boxing is different
Josh and John are some of the worst predictors on planet Earth. The only thing worse than their fight picks is the way they refuse to ever acknowledge when they are wrong. Especially John. He should be studied.
@@craighopkins4496no bro it’s boxing too remember that giant guy valuev he used his size to destroy many guys
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I kept my scorecard and had 2 rounds that were really close. Even if you give both of them to Fury, Usyk still wins 115-113. Obviously, best case scenario for Usyk on my card is 117-111. So 116-112 sounds very fair to me.
Thanks as always for the podcast team weighing in, it's always much appreciated. 🙂♥️
Andy Ruiz had plenty opportunities to make fights but he was greedy. Him and Wilder were supposed to fight but Wilder's team said Andy was asking for too much money and the same thing happened with Fury. Andy fought Miller a few months ago but the fight was scored a draw even though Miller clearly won. Even Turki called it a robbery.
As for Hearn not wanting the AJ vs Fury fight; that's inaccurate. Fury and Wilder froze AJ out of an undisputed fight; they both threatened that they'd freeze him out and they did; it's on record. Fury's team (Frank Warren and Bob Arum) also lied that the Wilder arbitration was dealt with, giving fasle hope that the AJ vs Fury Undisputed fight was gonna happen but when both men received their contracts, and AJ signed his, news came out that the Wilder arbitration was won by him, so him and Fury had to fight a third time. Then after AJ lost to Usyk a second time, Fury saw a wekness and then offered to fight AJ but he had a week's deadline to sign the contract; this was a few days after the loss (''Monday, Monday, Monday is the deadline'' is the famous statement that Fury made). Nobody would sign under those conditions. Fury went on to fight Chisora a third time but he never gave him a dedline to sign. We also have countless statements that he'll never fight AJ or AJ doesn't deserve to fight him because he lost to a fat sausage (Ruiz). If you've followed the division diligently; you'd know that Fury is the one who's always been negative about the AJ fight. This is partly due to what happened in sparring (even though it's said sparring doesn't matter) when AJ was on the come up and Fury was already a pro; he admitted that he got his ass kicked by AJ on record. Let's see if Fury makes excuses again because him vs AJ should be next for both men.
These are the historical facts and there are receipts for them. As for AJ vs Wilder; we have Wilder's Tweet to Fury that he was offerred more money for the Undisputed fight with AJ than he was offered to fight Fury. Simply Google ''Wilder admits to ducking Joshua'' and follow the Twitter link. These guys made it possible for Usyk to creep in and spoil the party.
Turkey doesn’t kno anything about boxing Ruiz should’ve won that decision u must be a casual
CHAEL.JUST NEEDS TO PUT COLBY ON A GOOD CYCLE.
I thought they were going to fix the fight for Tyson. MULTIPLE times when usyk landed huge left hands the camera angle changed and commentary wouldn’t even mention it. Boxing scoring is subjective but I thought usyk won basically every round. The AI was right we just always automatically make the score so close for whatever reason it’s a human bias
I agree with Josh on the Battle statement. I would say it's not just an "excuse" but more an importantly a fact that the weight was missed. Using the word excuse waters down the situation
“it’s a robot, it can’t smoke weed John” 😂
The ‘AI referee’ had it 118-112 for Usyk.
Whilst the AI judge was only used as an experimental 4th official and therefore didn’t impact the result. I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss its interpretation of the fight. It’s a brilliantly developed piece of software that’s measuring a whole host of metrics in real time such as; aggression,landed punches, impact of punches, defensive moves and more. The results in this fight are definitely worth a read when released. I think 118-112 is on the money
Josh “Let me give an example from my career“ Thompson
"speaking from my own personal experience"
He’s trying to give a “view from a fighter”. People bitch about anything these days. Be open minded and not a grumpy worthless internet troll.
Bet you've never been in a cage tough guy
@@Cipher0ptic24no it’s freaking despicable how can he give a view as a “fighter” if he hasn’t been a fighter for decades it’s just ridiculous u must be a casual
@ that’s a subjective opinion from a non fighter
The right man won, regardless of how many rounds but the final result is absolutely correct.
If you’re deep into fighting world ,you absolutely do understand why Burns wants this fight and especially right now,even though he always wanted to fight Colby.
Its a perfect moment for him to fight Colby .
Also,absolutely agree with you guys on your take
Colby accepting this fight.
He just has to.
The fight with colby was on two weeks' notice.. he came of the couch and went three rounds.. with a killer, I would have loved to see it go al 5 rounds since Buckley was starting to breathe heavy..
This was a good episode thank you guys by the way I hope you guys have a great Christmas and I also feel usyk vs Jake Paul should be next
Jake already announced he’s fighting Ngannou next
😂 u must be trolling
@@ConsciousHumanity1111bro Jake destroys Francis easily he’s just got mma fighters number none of them hav a chance against him u must be a casual
Good show guys! Merry Christmas!!!! 🎁 🎄 🎁
Bro ur too early it’s not even Christmas yet u must be a casual
how can u say an undefeated fighter who is a champ and knocked out 2 greatest fw of all time back 2 back have no chance against another fighter up a weightclass? come on guys, a casual take
Especially considering said fighter up a weight class had a very competitive first fight with volk, who Illia dominated and starched
@@giacalonebuilding4443bro that wasn’t the same volk that was the new washed volk that kod badly by Islam he’s never gonna fight the same again ili
A loses to the top lightweights he’s too small u must be a casual
WEIGHING IN BABY LETS GOOOOO
U must be a casual
@ meat rocket wassup my brother
Patchy mix is telling umar game secrets to merab aljo as he trained a lot with both
NEVER SAY NEVER BIG JOHN.
I tuned out for like 6 months, and I came back to find Josh aged 10 years apparently?
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Are the fighters backed into a corner and forced to take the fight if their opponent doesn't make weight? Can't they refuse THAT fight and ask for a replacement opponent? There's usually someone on standby, isn't there?
With the Brian battle-Randy Brown situation, it makes it worse because remember when Pereira didn't make the weight against Stephen Thompson and he didn't take the fight? Remember the UFC was pissed and kind of punished Stephen for not taking the fight? Such bs
Lol love that no one called out Josh for saying Anthony Joshua 😭
It's a robot it can't smoke weed John.... 😂
Andy Ruiz keeps out pricing himself of fights was supposed to fight wilder but kept out pricing himself.
Josh and and John, what do you guys think of instead of it the fighter that missed weight only loses 20% the rules be changed to if you miss weight you can only make your show money and not your win money plus you still lose that 20% and the fighter that makes weight automatically makes his show and win money plus the 10% from the fighter that missed weight and the commission still gets there 10% I feel like this is more fair and a better incentive not to miss weight
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Don't worry, nobody rushing to Knoxville.
Colby used to hide his entries but he has become so predictable.
It's "Once you accept the fight... AT THAT WEIGHT". If they don't make the weight then 100% of their purse should go to the other guy. It would solve the problem. Or just do same day weigh-ins. We'd get better fights anyway with guys fighting at their actual weight. Not playing this silly weight-loss game.
Usyk is an amazing human being, a superlative boxer, he clearly won, 116-113; the commentators were surprised because their commentary was biased all the way through, Warren is an embarrassment, the wild boar has been castrated...
Warren is not an embarrasment,thats not accurate.
The thing is ,he doesnt understand scoring ,also ,we have to say,some rounds were very close.
Ok ,Usyk was winning them but not by much .
Fighters who miss weight should be ineligible to win bonuses.
Fury bias was nasty on DAZN
When Caio Borralho said nobody wants to fight him why not just give him the automatic title shot like they did with Islam or Umar as you claim everyone avoids them.
Colby is done thanks for calling it out and being real about it, his blind supporters just make excuses
18:25 I didn't see that punch you were talking about josh but i did rewatch the fight, you head kicked him 3 times, CRAZY.
DANA IS NOT GONNA B ABLE TO SKIMP ON PAY WITH BOXING. CAUSE BOXERS KNOW THE PAY IS HIGH
Chill with the all caps
Iaquinta went 5 rounds with khabib on no notice 😂 topuria easily lasts
id love products that pay me to im going to stop watching sell outs
Parker is Nz
GO WATCH TYSON HOLYFIELD OR LEWIS TYSON OR HOLYFIELD. THOSE GUYS WOULDA DESTROYED UYSEK AND FURY
COOL.
No they won't ... All 3 of them had loses against boxers that are not on the same level as Usyk! All 3 of them went to the distance with boxers that are not on the same level as Usyk! Are they capable to defeat Usyk ? Sure they are ... But saying that they would destroy him is ridiculous. I give Usyk a real good change ... He is way more allround than those 3... For example: better cardio, footwork, controlling distance etc etc
AI had the fight 10-2 usyk and scored the first round and the 12th 10-10. Idk if this guy is some kinda DEI hire for geeks or something but he is not qualified to do this job. The AI score was mentioned 20 times since last night
How are yall justifying gilberts weak ass movement lol anyone at any moment could do that to gilbert. It's just a super lame move
Jorge Masvidal might be your era but he talks alot of trash lol
Can’t watch this anymore all Josh does is talk about oh when I was a fighter. We get it you use to fight, unbearable
1st
Ilia kos Islam. Khabib returns
Khabib is boring, he ain’t coming back 😂 the speed would be a huge issue now
@@mattmolt-bb1iwshut up casual. Nothing has been the same since Khabib left.