This strat has no business being this viable. I know that it struggled on the late 90s, but still. When have you guys ever thought of sprockets other than a stepping stone to sentry champion
Well, he did 1. Use the correct hero for the strat, buffs, and such. 2. Play on a map that wasn’t too hard 3. Lose a few times 4. Use a tower with high rate of fire, while using said buffs, which is generally the best case scenario. So I think it makes sense.
I think you're wrong and this map is actually almost ideal for this strategy: 1) All engis and most sentries can hit two lanes at once 2) The awkward angles don't matter because they're all piercecapped anyway
Dude I've been saying this for ages!! If your defense is lacking MOAB damage, then literally slap down a few 3-2-0 engis at the front of the track on strong, and they do an UNGODLY amount of fortified MOAB damage given their price. They can be discounted in their entirety too, which makes them even cheaper! Very underrated tower/upgrade :)
I only recently realized really how helpful engies are. Yeah overclock is great and bloom trap makes tons of money. But cleansing foam is such a good tower for handling camo and leads, while it and sprockets are a really good boast to MOAB damage They’re such cheap towers to throw down when you need some extra moab damage or help with camos
Cleansing Foam is an unreliable decamo (will not reliably work on all camo rounds) and a bad anti-lead option (just get an 000 or 200 alch) that is mostly useful for being able to manually target off-track to decamo DDTs. Its x1x and x2x upgrades also do nothing to help its decamo (contrast xx3 wiz, which is also bad, but at least you get early camo detection on xx2; meaning you can buy xx2 for r24 and xx3 for r32, when an engi requires x3x for r24). Sprockets is too expensive for what it does, has weird and inconsistent placement on its sentries, completely falls off lategame, and is outclassed by almost every other earlygame and MOAB damage - if you want good MOAB damage for cheap, get a 6 power Velociraptor which will also do helpful ceramic damage.
Well I use Enginner all the time. They are the Early Game kings for me. Cleasing Foam works fine for me, specially when using more than one. And yes velocitaptor is better, but enginner is a not a suckass base tower like Beast Handler so is easier to build up. It comes down to a matter of preference.
nah, cleansing foam is quite bad for decamo. the only reason you pick foam over other decamo is just the track. if it has bend, signal flare i s the way, has good water placement? sub, a single lane? pick shimmer and later go for POD The only times foam is good when the track is quite far from place-able spot and no bend for mortar. or u just want to build overclock forlater
Thing is, the engi is rarely ever your best option, foam works reliably but lacks the pierce, sprockets are rarely ever something you intend to build so they're just kinda there, by the time you hot r40 you already want to have some setup for your midgame. Sure, if you can make it work, there's no problem, it's just usually not the strongest option
@@zirax54 “they’re such cheap towers to throw down when you need EXTRA” I know what I meant Cleansing foam is way cheaper than camo village, and provides both camo and MOAB damage (if you use sentries). There’s rarely a reason not to get it on most maps, it lets you handle camos for basically no cash for most of the game. And pierce nowasays is something you can buff easily with heroes and towers
The fact that homeland also doubles the speed sentries get deployed is just so good. Even after it expires you have a lingering army of turrets standing by for the cooldown. We love engi
It's fitting that this challenge is done on a BMC map, as Sprockets spam was a wild strategy back then. That, alongside Bloon Trap spam (Bloon Trap in BTD5 Steam/BMC Steam was so broken).
I think they pale in comparison to cleansing foam on flash -- NEVER pierce capped, only timed out. One or two (usually just one) cleansing foams would COMPLETELY negate all regrows or camos, and if there were any left over, monkey knowledge sentries with the camo detection would clean up...
@@geyrnauch Oh for sure! I played Flash before the new towers were added though, so I don't really remember that. I do remember the MiB allowing foam to pop all bloons though lol
@@maildaemon I had *no* idea that was a thing, lol.... I was but a wee lad when I was playing BMC flash, so I never got MIB because I was like "oh, this thing already has lead popping, I'm not gonna worry about it". Though, I didn't get very far with any of that anyway, because I just didn't play the game enough.
This is a cool challenge, the fact that we tryin' lower tier upgrades is very interesting to watch. I would like to see the Sentry Expert has a chance to challenge some of custom maps in the pools. I really like the Idea of that tower.
This video does a good job showcasing the strength of the engineer sentries, even sentry champion. By itself, it's _alright_ (Not quite up to par with other T5s), but when you start buffing it, it's power multiplies really fast. Also, take a shot everytime ISAB calls an engineer a sentry
Ballistic Missile next In my opinion, underrated Reasoning: You would only get it for First Strike or Pre-emptive Strike. You wouldn't use it as a stepping stone.
hey isab i got a challenge, idk if this is hard or ez but i js thought of it u have to beat chimps but once u place a tower down u can’t use it again if u click off ( u can’t use abilities or interact with towers other then changing targeting) so like once u place a dart monkey at the start and do ur upgrades and click off u can’t use interact with that dart again
@@TheCJRhodes who cares bro 💀 There's literally called an app called RUclips shorts for kids. If they don't wanna use that, then they can pay the price 😂
Sprockets is one of those upgrades I like, for the sheer quantity you can make, and being a straight up better double guns. When engie was newer, I used a lot of sentry champion (paragon).
The 4th tire top path is actually very good every time I’ve placed it recently it’s has had some of the most pops inna game and some times it’s has had more pops then a 4th tier Ninja with 4th tier alc which is actually impressive to me
Holy cow, this brings back memories... This map was my first real Contested Territory attempt (i reached like, round 50 something, which is pretty impressive for CT). I didnt have Temple at the time so i just abused pierce buffed Spectres (pierce buffs make explosions explode multiple times in BMC) plus Bloonchippers (bloonchipper, no explanation needed)
Man, I'd love a BMC 2 type game. Maybe even integrated as a paid DLC for BTD6 but without microtransactions as you have to unlock stuff normally. I would pay 20 bucks for it.
Correct me if im wrong, but Permabrew + sprocket spam is genuinely strong (obv no where near the best choice) due to the fact Alch buff applied to the engi gives the buff for free to ALL sentries that engi made Edit: Apparently Alch doesn't apply for sentries, only the Engi...
I haven't tried in a while but I'm pretty sure the alch buff only affects the original engi, not the sentries, meaning that it only boosts the sentry spawn rate.
Question for isab but anyone feel free. Why is 0-5-2 glue storm better? Because in normal bloonarius boss events, the glorm can deal with all of its spawns spewing out up to tier 3 I believe. And I know the glue gunner itself doesn't matter in terms of gluing moabs but the bottom path doesn't. But the corrosive top path does. I know it's the slowing affect overall but I feel that the corrosive is still better.
I like how people make RUclips bots like every week. RUclips must have no way to stop it as there are new bots like every second if you look at there accounts they were made today. And they sometimes get new messages.
This strat has no business being this viable. I know that it struggled on the late 90s, but still. When have you guys ever thought of sprockets other than a stepping stone to sentry champion
Nah sprockets is cool, and sentry expert is better than people give it credit for.
Doesnt have the power ceiling that sprockets does@@dnr-vs1lk
Well, he did
1. Use the correct hero for the strat, buffs, and such.
2. Play on a map that wasn’t too hard
3. Lose a few times
4. Use a tower with high rate of fire, while using said buffs, which is generally the best case scenario.
So I think it makes sense.
I take note of it quite often, but that’s just cuz I played Battles 1 and it was the 3rd tier before Overclock.
Idk why but I prefer tier 3 over tier 4
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The zoom in when he said (There is barely anything left while over 9000 moabs exiting) got me dead .
I think you're wrong and this map is actually almost ideal for this strategy:
1) All engis and most sentries can hit two lanes at once
2) The awkward angles don't matter because they're all piercecapped anyway
Dude I've been saying this for ages!! If your defense is lacking MOAB damage, then literally slap down a few 3-2-0 engis at the front of the track on strong, and they do an UNGODLY amount of fortified MOAB damage given their price. They can be discounted in their entirety too, which makes them even cheaper! Very underrated tower/upgrade :)
Damn this really bring back nostalgia, mindlessly spamming bloons traps and bloon chippers
I only recently realized really how helpful engies are. Yeah overclock is great and bloom trap makes tons of money. But cleansing foam is such a good tower for handling camo and leads, while it and sprockets are a really good boast to MOAB damage
They’re such cheap towers to throw down when you need some extra moab damage or help with camos
Cleansing Foam is an unreliable decamo (will not reliably work on all camo rounds) and a bad anti-lead option (just get an 000 or 200 alch) that is mostly useful for being able to manually target off-track to decamo DDTs. Its x1x and x2x upgrades also do nothing to help its decamo (contrast xx3 wiz, which is also bad, but at least you get early camo detection on xx2; meaning you can buy xx2 for r24 and xx3 for r32, when an engi requires x3x for r24).
Sprockets is too expensive for what it does, has weird and inconsistent placement on its sentries, completely falls off lategame, and is outclassed by almost every other earlygame and MOAB damage - if you want good MOAB damage for cheap, get a 6 power Velociraptor which will also do helpful ceramic damage.
Well I use Enginner all the time. They are the Early Game kings for me. Cleasing Foam works fine for me, specially when using more than one. And yes velocitaptor is better, but enginner is a not a suckass base tower like Beast Handler so is easier to build up. It comes down to a matter of preference.
nah, cleansing foam is quite bad for decamo. the only reason you pick foam over other decamo is just the track. if it has bend, signal flare i s the way, has good water placement? sub, a single lane? pick shimmer and later go for POD
The only times foam is good when the track is quite far from place-able spot and no bend for mortar. or u just want to build overclock forlater
Thing is, the engi is rarely ever your best option, foam works reliably but lacks the pierce, sprockets are rarely ever something you intend to build so they're just kinda there, by the time you hot r40 you already want to have some setup for your midgame. Sure, if you can make it work, there's no problem, it's just usually not the strongest option
@@zirax54 “they’re such cheap towers to throw down when you need EXTRA” I know what I meant
Cleansing foam is way cheaper than camo village, and provides both camo and MOAB damage (if you use sentries). There’s rarely a reason not to get it on most maps, it lets you handle camos for basically no cash for most of the game. And pierce nowasays is something you can buff easily with heroes and towers
The fact that homeland also doubles the speed sentries get deployed is just so good. Even after it expires you have a lingering army of turrets standing by for the cooldown. We love engi
Isab has hit the 2nd tower!
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It's fitting that this challenge is done on a BMC map, as Sprockets spam was a wild strategy back then. That, alongside Bloon Trap spam (Bloon Trap in BTD5 Steam/BMC Steam was so broken).
I think they pale in comparison to cleansing foam on flash -- NEVER pierce capped, only timed out. One or two (usually just one) cleansing foams would COMPLETELY negate all regrows or camos, and if there were any left over, monkey knowledge sentries with the camo detection would clean up...
@@geyrnauch Oh for sure! I played Flash before the new towers were added though, so I don't really remember that. I do remember the MiB allowing foam to pop all bloons though lol
@@maildaemon I had *no* idea that was a thing, lol....
I was but a wee lad when I was playing BMC flash, so I never got MIB because I was like "oh, this thing already has lead popping, I'm not gonna worry about it". Though, I didn't get very far with any of that anyway, because I just didn't play the game enough.
Thank you ISAB for edging us with the sexpert
I didn't know the engineer from tf2 was in Bloons
This is a cool challenge, the fact that we tryin' lower tier upgrades is very interesting to watch. I would like to see the Sentry Expert has a chance to challenge some of custom maps in the pools. I really like the Idea of that tower.
I love sentry expert. It’s pretty good at surviving the mid rounds with it’s different turret types
Sentry Expert is way too fun, I love it
402 Sentry Expert goes hard for misc bloon cleanup as a midgame. Honestly underrated
Man, I love "Jungles of the druids," best tower in game fr (4:58)
you must be new here :)
@@PPedroFernandes No im not how did you guess?
Wait till you see how he mortars his micro
a bloons monkey city 2 would go so hard with a lot of changes i loved that game so much like ~8 years ago or whatever
You can’t call this a beginner map when karts and darts is intermediate
Karts and darts is easy peazy
8:44 which also means that the call to arms buff lingers in a way! Since the increased amount of turrers stay for a bit after the buff runs out
This video does a good job showcasing the strength of the engineer sentries, even sentry champion. By itself, it's _alright_ (Not quite up to par with other T5s), but when you start buffing it, it's power multiplies really fast.
Also, take a shot everytime ISAB calls an engineer a sentry
Ballistic Missile next
In my opinion, underrated
Reasoning: You would only get it for First Strike or Pre-emptive Strike. You wouldn't use it as a stepping stone.
Not really, ballistic spam is really good with Brickell.
ballistic missile spam is good only if you can get 032, if there are only bad water spots where you have to go for 230 it isnt very good
@@Vertigo_6@Vertigo_6 you never "have" to go for 230, if you somehow feel like 230 will be a dps drop, just stick with 032 then...
@@CoconutOrNot_their point is that in scenarios where 230 is better, neither are good
@@Vertigo_6 Doesn't ballistic missile get overshadowed by triple guns and AP darts?
hey isab i got a challenge, idk if this is hard or ez but i js thought of it
u have to beat chimps but once u place a tower down u can’t use it again if u click off ( u can’t use abilities or interact with towers other then changing targeting) so like once u place a dart monkey at the start and do ur upgrades and click off u can’t use interact with that dart again
The thumbnail reminds me of the BTD Battles 1 hypersonic towers video with the engineer spawning a billion sentries
Damn isab gettin hoze in these comments
hoes*
Finally, someone gets it!
I actually use sentry engi in battles and battles 2, as well as bloon trap spam in btd5. engineers are peak
This is a throwback to old ISAB. BTDB hypersonic series :)
I swear isab alreayd did this 😂
No he tried to beat chimp using sprockets on candy falls
no swearing please, we have very young people watching this.
Yes he did do this previously on candy falls where he tried to beat chimps
@@TheCJRhodes who cares bro 💀
There's literally called an app called RUclips shorts for kids. If they don't wanna use that, then they can pay the price 😂
@@TheCJRhodes hop on isab extras he even swears there bro ☠️
4:56 jungle of the druid 💀
Breath's dragon (he didn't say that)
Sprockets is one of those upgrades I like, for the sheer quantity you can make, and being a straight up better double guns.
When engie was newer, I used a lot of sentry champion (paragon).
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Takes me back to BTD5. Just missing the Bloon Chipper one-shotting ZOMGs.
Please save monkey society... sentry gun
Watch out, ISAB uses double discount village in this video, you have been warned!!
The 4th tire top path is actually very good every time I’ve placed it recently it’s has had some of the most pops inna game and some times it’s has had more pops then a 4th tier Ninja with 4th tier alc which is actually impressive to me
I love sentry spam! I personality include some 3-0-2s just cuz pin can be super useful
1:32 poor ancient portal
I ALWAYS BELIEVED IN SPROCKET SUPREMACY
Man seeing this map again just makes me want a BMC2
I had fun playing the first one
They made a battles2 why not a city2?
Holy cow, this brings back memories... This map was my first real Contested Territory attempt (i reached like, round 50 something, which is pretty impressive for CT). I didnt have Temple at the time so i just abused pierce buffed Spectres (pierce buffs make explosions explode multiple times in BMC) plus Bloonchippers (bloonchipper, no explanation needed)
Pierce-buffed explosions were crazy, I loved it
Sprocket spam was one of my go-to BTD5 strategies
Man, I'd love a BMC 2 type game. Maybe even integrated as a paid DLC for BTD6 but without microtransactions as you have to unlock stuff normally. I would pay 20 bucks for it.
Thank you ISAB for doing it all
Eeerectin’ a dispenser!
NK gotta make Bloons Monkey City 2 happen. It was so fun
Sprockets apparently also give the pin effect to sentrys, but it dows not work on ceramics.
BMC map in true BMC fashion? Wow, quite the blast to the past.... (sort of)
I really hope a bmc2 is planned with btd6 mechanics
God imagine how huge the city would be with all the extra research buildings lol
Wow... the art for BMC makes them look cracked out
I just blackbordered skates
I did monkey sub 2-0-5 or 2-0-4, and it was just awesome
I like playing btd battles (old) with engi, village, bchip. I love trolling
Imagine this with btd5 Super Sentries...
thank you ISAB for launching your sentries all over the map
Correct me if im wrong, but Permabrew + sprocket spam is genuinely strong (obv no where near the best choice) due to the fact Alch buff applied to the engi gives the buff for free to ALL sentries that engi made
Edit: Apparently Alch doesn't apply for sentries, only the Engi...
I haven't tried in a while but I'm pretty sure the alch buff only affects the original engi, not the sentries, meaning that it only boosts the sentry spawn rate.
@@20oxide36 ahh, would make sense, bit of a shame but understandable why it wouldn't
Dang I miss playing BMC now. Maybe I should pick it back up
500 Engineers
we need all the BMC music in BTD6
This defense solves all the practical problems
Btd5 strategy, especially with the building lord😂
Real Civil Engineer would be proud
ENGINEER GAMING!
Anyways, i actually used sprocket spam alot a while back. It’s such a degenerate but fun strat…
I think you need a few more sentries. Just start stacking them
now do this map but only in the cave entrance/exit with glaive lord or tack for a two to three tower chimps
I’d be interesting in seeing you beating chimps without buffs
isab should play on custom maps more often
Fun Idea! I like it.
Great ivero isab 😊
"all bow down to the dumbest stragedy of all time" Thats how I always feel
thank you isab❤
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a hard cap on how many sentries one engie can have at once until you get him to tier 5?
Nice matrix reference
"Fixed a bug where the engineer can only build one sentry gun at a time."
Question for isab but anyone feel free. Why is 0-5-2 glue storm better? Because in normal bloonarius boss events, the glorm can deal with all of its spawns spewing out up to tier 3 I believe. And I know the glue gunner itself doesn't matter in terms of gluing moabs but the bottom path doesn't. But the corrosive top path does. I know it's the slowing affect overall but I feel that the corrosive is still better.
In a chimps game, the increased debuff duration and general CC given by bottom path far outweighs anything towpath offers
the explaianation of bmc's gameplay at the start made me age 10 years
You could also do 2-5-0
This was more important than sopranos
Takes me back to when I got bored with BTD5 because I could beat every level by spamming engineers with the giant red turrets.😂😂
what of ISAB it was
IFAB
And instead of sucking the bloons
He got freaky with them
Man, when are we getting BMC2?
Paragon haters will seeth but tier 3 spam will always be the most based bloons td6 strategy.
Wouldn’t handcuffs be like ancient portal, if it only had one portal?
Only og remembers that sentries are annoying sometimes
Fun strat!
I remember this strat from bloons td -500 in the early 1800s, everybody and their maidens were playing it. Glad to see it make a comeback!
How are you and Sauda going?
bottom path engi can also stun the bloons or "Pin" the bloons.
yeah but not the moabs
bmc my beloved
We have SMFC at home
The SMFC:
You should play roblox tower defense game. Some of them are really good.
Hi also video idea you should make a video where you can only use monkeys that buff
whats next? lemme guess spiked balls or some shit?
I wish ISAB would put me in handcuffs 😔
bmc2 but good this time when?
Bmc vid= new bmc2 confirmed?!?!?
yes
I like how people make RUclips bots like every week. RUclips must have no way to stop it as there are new bots like every second if you look at there accounts they were made today. And they sometimes get new messages.
I'm curious. Why no T5 Alchemist?
sprocket supremacy
What would happen if the sentries never died?
sometimes you pronounce it Monkey edgineers
Isab is this video real??? Did you really do this??
no lag?
A good pc can easily handle that. Only mobile lags easily.